Corrie September 1985 - Goodbye to the uncharismatic Claytons (I was not sorry to see them go); goodbye to the old corner shop (I was sorry), and hello to Jack Duckworth behind the bar of the Rovers. It seems around this point, that he and son Terry started to swap characters: Terry gradually becoming the bad boy of the street, and Jack softening from mean and nasty husband and father, to almost respectable loveable rogue.
The only time I knew about Jack. A law abiding family man. (90's forwards) The reality, (70's and 80's) a cold hearted drunk who had no time for his son especially, besides his wife. Just shows you how generations of viewers can be manipulated. I don't even recognise the Duckworths as a whole family from the characters I knew from the early to mid 90's. Terry done well being as kind hearted as he was. These writers just push the limits constantly.
I agree, when we watched the show the Duckworths were lovable, I couldn't believe what a screaming harridan Vera was in these earlier episodes. To think they ended up much loved and mourned!
Percy was right about the self service aspect of the new way of shopping. I remember the corner stores of yesteryear, the person behind the counter helping you and striking up a conversation. Also, Martin Platt, his acting ability peaked at smacking his lips and tutting.
I am just surprised people did all their week shopping in a convenience store (must have cost a lot lol). Maybe it was just easier for the writers to not include a supermarket.
The open/closed sign in The Cabin is pretty much useless. 90% of it is covered up by the wooden central part of the door, so if you are standing outside, you will hardly be able to see the sign.
Well, she is getting paid to do a manager/ cook's job on a bar worker's wages, not the first time either. The number of times she had to manage the pub because Annie was off to her Joannie's, or off to bed with her chronic migraines.
38p in 1985 is the equivalent of £1.44 in today's money. My yearly salary in 1985 was about a quarter of what I earn now within the same industry similar post so it's all relative.
it's £1.40 if you buy Heinz try the supermarket own brands you can get a four pack for about £1.70 not much more than 38p each. Heinz is not worth the extra money!
@@bsaunders5271 Ivy was a, two faced hypocrite. Always running people down, interfering in her sons marriage, nagged Bert to death, jealous and thought herself a cut above most people.All that while making out she was a good and, holier than thou, Catholic.
Bet was much better as a barmaid. I don’t know why they persisted when Betty was so much more reliable. Jack was born to work in the pub and Bet’s one liners became less frequent. So many mistakes were made by the producers. Particularly with regard to the families who occupied number 11. The one thing they got right was Vera and Jack.
It just occurred to me that Rita and Alf are both in business, for themselves, because both Renee and Len died in road accidents, and left them their businesses.
@chrissywales6575 was going to say that - all the uildings make no sense from outside to inside. The Select in the Rovers would technically be on the road!
Curly “No unilateral decisions. alright?” Terry “Listen, pal-what I do with me’ sex life is me’ own affair!” Well, he has seen a lot of Hilda recently-her malapropisms must be rubbing off on him!
The strange thing about the Corner Shop change was that it didn't really change things that much. It was still a hive of gossip and for the first time the sign over it actually read 'CORNER SHOP'. Seemed a lot of trouble to go for not a lot.
1:53:52 Hilda is forgetting both Annie Walkers tendency to go walkabout and "migraine coming on" moments as well as how Bet helped her with the trouble she was having with her house. She is great but can be very spiteful.
@@victoriadelaney1123 talk about the cure to my MEgraine Victoria, you are fkn brilliant looking 😂 only joking , got to say that now. I hope Charles pulls a MEgraine during this Coronation and leaves William and ginger dome rolling about on the balcony 😜
@@bsaunders5271 He did actually, he knocked through to the living accomodation at the back, and demolished the staircase that led up the back, making a new one for the new improved flat.
Bowling episode was brilliant! “Percy! Percy!...” One thing I don’t get tho. Sam told Percy what the prize was-Phyllis-and he didn’t lose! Couldn’t he have lost deliberately?
@@britmum999He didn't it was Jack shouting about the army his pride got in the way of losing. Percy on his toes getting chase by Phyllis was hilarious. 😂
So did Alf put the woman head first into the freezer for saying it was better the way it was before? He looked at her ominously-then we never see her again! 😱😱
Corrie did suffer after the big-name departures of 1983/84. Many characters were introduced in 1985 that viewers didn't seem to warm to. However, I would watch these episodes of Coronation Street any day compared to the episodes from 2000 onwards.
When Edna disapproved of something she was so watchable. I hate ivy and her pompous disdain. When Edna and Martha picked on poor Minnie it was true to life. Rita's constant badgering of Mavis is pathetic. When Stan and Hilda used to argue in public itmwas hilarious. Jack and Vera set my teeth on edge.
@@MissMarie1377 Yes, unlike a church, a chapel is a place of worship that has no pastor or priest and no permanent congregation; it's all about the physical space. In the classic sense, it's usually smaller than a church-sometimes just a room-and can be within a church itself or in a secular place like a hospital or airport.
It's so weird they all struggle with self service shops (not something I remember) so much nicer going in and getting what you need without being fussed lol
Alf's lovely, I just don't get Rita at all, Len was no oil painting, and he had a belly, Alf's a big chap, but he's a lovely face and he'd do anything for Rita, what a fool she is, and her next chap will make her regret it!
You know I have watched Coronation Street from the beginning in 1960 when it started till 2023 and what I get from it is that man I tell you those people they eat a lot of pork and tons of alcohol I have never seen I thought Canadians were alcoholics but we could probably drink some under-the-table maybe but it sure would be a challenge hats off to the or drinking
She has been getting under my skin more and more recently. She is so naive and dumb and self righteous. I can’t stand her. The way she worshipped Mrs walker and did everything for her and took up for that worthless Fred Gee no matter what awful things he did but then she is nasty to Bet, won’t stop complaining and treats Hilda like she is dirt. Everything about this very dim woman upsets me. At this point I can barely watch scenes she is in.
Look at all the times Bet supported Hilda, when she needed it. Now, look at the spiteful old cow, sticking the boot in, every chance she gets. She's in her glory, making sure the whole street knows what's going on with Bet.
Hilda gets on my wick at times, and she's such a hypocrite She's the first person to tell people to mind their own business when something is going on in her own personal life But Bet, who's always tried to help her out. At the first sign of trouble sticks the knife in...Spiteful and nasty shrew at times And Alf. I've never liked him, he's an old woman, always shouting, and he marries that horrible trollop Audrey
Yes totally agree i got married in a register office the parents on both sides refused to attend saying it wasn't a proper marriage and it wouldn't last well i refused to get married in a church and we are still together 20 years later
Corrie September 1985 - Goodbye to the uncharismatic Claytons (I was not sorry to see them go); goodbye to the old corner shop (I was sorry), and hello to Jack Duckworth behind the bar of the Rovers. It seems around this point, that he and son Terry started to swap characters: Terry gradually becoming the bad boy of the street, and Jack softening from mean and nasty husband and father, to almost respectable loveable rogue.
Bring on Leggy Liz haha
Duckeggs are scream8ng mammas bring 0 to the street they should have left also
Our Tirri 🤣
Yet sue Clayton returned later as Bernie winters Gemma n Paul's mum completely different character
Why does Vera have to shout all the time she's incapable of talking normally
The only time I knew about Jack. A law abiding family man. (90's forwards)
The reality, (70's and 80's) a cold hearted drunk who had no time for his son especially, besides his wife. Just shows you how generations of viewers can be manipulated. I don't even recognise the Duckworths as a whole family from the characters I knew from the early to mid 90's. Terry done well being as kind hearted as he was. These writers just push the limits constantly.
Totally agree mate.
I agree, when we watched the show the Duckworths were lovable, I couldn't believe what a screaming harridan Vera was in these earlier episodes. To think they ended up much loved and mourned!
@@mlk1965 I quit all soaps in the 90s, so these are the only Duckworths I've ever known. I can't imagine Vera not being a harpy.
Love the 80s music hits here and there!
Me, too!
I love watching these great episodes. Thank you so much for all the uploads.
Percy was right about the self service aspect of the new way of shopping. I remember the corner stores of yesteryear, the person behind the counter helping you and striking up a conversation.
Also, Martin Platt, his acting ability peaked at smacking his lips and tutting.
Re-Martin Platt😂
Alf's new mini-mart is a shoplifter's paradise.
Self-service, ha, ha.
Buy none, get one free.
And louvre windows above the door for 'out of hours' access.
Gosh Vera’s voice is so loud and common.
🤣 Liz Dawn does a good job, that's how Vera's voice is supposed to be!
Gosh and golly! Those vulgar working classes, good heavens!..
It’s meant to be. Vera is actually softly spoken by nature. She has a great smile and laugh.
This bowling story is ridiculous as is the tall northern actor with the appalling accent 🤷🏼♂️ ….just sayin 😳
Thanks for uploading these Corrie classics. Although, I much preferred the old look corner shop!!!
me too
I am just surprised people did all their week shopping in a convenience store (must have cost a lot lol). Maybe it was just easier for the writers to not include a supermarket.
@@KuchiKopi179 they did put bettabuys in a few years later!
We use the corner shops for things like bread and milk when we run out!
Me also.
Amen to that
Our Terry, ‘mixing with gangsters and Cockneys’. 🤣
R TuRry.
Thanks so very much
Love hilda and Mike
Bet was such a fool when it came to men.🤨 I still love her though. 💞💕
Rita as well, she should have stuck with Alf. Alf was wasted on that awful banshee and her family of dementors.
Thank you again!
The open/closed sign in The Cabin is pretty much useless. 90% of it is covered up by the wooden central part of the door, so if you are standing outside, you will hardly be able to see the sign.
Lol I noticed that a few episodes back.
I think the intention is actually pushing the door.. if it's closed, it's closed.
@@londonlady1966 So in other words, why bother with an open/closed sign for any door, in any situation. Just push the thing and see what happens.
@@TheGlassman63Yup.
It's an o..n/cl..ed sign. The old one used to be top left of the door and only the middle of that one was showing outside (.pe./..os..).
Phyllis is hilarious with that Sam.
love corona bottle lemonade bought i remember those 10p return we should bring back
Betty was a right moaner
Awhh loveeee😁
Well, she is getting paid to do a manager/ cook's job on a bar worker's wages, not the first time either. The number of times she had to manage the pub because Annie was off to her Joannie's, or off to bed with her chronic migraines.
After Betty died, they found a letter from Annie Walker that she wanted her to take over as manager when she left, but Betty never told anyone.
Oooh, Bet and Betty going at each other in the last episode was a bit of fun.
It's a great scene ! The writing was top class back then.
Good riddance to the Clayton’s and our andi moan moan moan that’s all they did
Alf said to Martin “A full tin of beans cost 38p”, nowadays they cost around £1-40 I wish we could go back to them days 38p!
38p in 1985 is the equivalent of £1.44 in today's money. My yearly salary in 1985 was about a quarter of what I earn now within the same industry similar post so it's all relative.
it's £1.40 if you buy Heinz try the supermarket own brands you can get a four pack for about £1.70 not much more than 38p each. Heinz is not worth the extra money!
@@AlanFleming7499 Under £4 for a pack of six Branston beans. You can't go wrong with those. Way better than horrible Heinz.
About 29p for Sainsbury own brand.
Alf was such a genius. Never ever did he let his character slip. What a cast with no high tech props or lighting....they didn't need them....
Didn't know terry rented len place, he would have been great in corrie if they hadn't have changed him to be be a badie
Wow Alf is quite the BULLY
Only when Alf doesn't get whatever he wants
Ivy is so jealous of Audrey - heaven forbid Gail should spend time with her own Mum or have her to stay!
Ivy should get her own life then she would have less need to interfere in other peoples!
Jealousy is definitely the issue.
@@bsaunders5271 Ivy was a, two faced hypocrite. Always running people down, interfering in her sons marriage, nagged Bert to death, jealous and thought herself a cut above most people.All that while making out she was a good and, holier than thou, Catholic.
It's probably cos Audrey always goes "ohhh! Noooowwww! Luvvviieee! Pleeeassse! Thank youuuu! Nowwwww. Yessss!"
Probably because she can see the 'orrible ugly Audrey for what she is.. as vile as her horrible daughter Gail
Bet was much better as a barmaid. I don’t know why they persisted when Betty was so much more reliable. Jack was born to work in the pub and Bet’s one liners became less frequent.
So many mistakes were made by the producers. Particularly with regard to the families who occupied number 11. The one thing they got right was Vera and Jack.
It just occurred to me that Rita and Alf are both in business, for themselves, because both Renee and Len died in road accidents, and left them their businesses.
Alf did sell his own house and pour money into the Corner Shop mortgage though. Rita, of course, got the Kabin and No 7 through being married to Len.
By Gum, Rita knows how to push the boat out ... salad, then tinned pears and cream ... and Alf thinks she's spoiling him!
"Ooh ..." Mavis is amazed by the most trivial things ...
Hate the Claytons.
Me too
They were another failed attempt to drop a shitload of new characters into the show at once and attempt to get the audience to care about them.
They're rubbish aren't they?
There have been far worse characters in the street over the years and I quite fancied Sue Clayton!
That Mrs Clayton had some cheek, blaming Terry for everything.
2:03:03 Emily practically disappeared into the background. I lived through the 80s, but they were never that beige in my experience 😂😂
where did Alf get all that space.
TARDIS
He expanded the shop into the living room and kitchen behind the Old shop area,
@chrissywales6575 was going to say that - all the uildings make no sense from outside to inside. The Select in the Rovers would technically be on the road!
Absolutely creasing up here with the bowling innuendos. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Percy trying to tempt Emily 😃
If I remember correctly poor Phyllis was still after Pacey Sugden in about 1997😂
Watching in 2024 💯
what is a 'baum cake' (sp?)
A barm cake is a bread roll. Traditionally made with the froth from beer.
Thought Alma ran the cafe-it IS after all ‘Jim’s cafe’ after Jim Sedgewick ( her husband) Where’s she been for weeks?
America
@@bsaunders5271 Thought so-but surely the cafe-her livelihood-
means more to her than that!
@@alexanderjones9572 I believe she is with her wealthy fancy man
Jack has eye 👁 4 all ladies. 😂😂😂😅😅😅❤❤❤❤
Curly “No unilateral decisions. alright?”
Terry “Listen, pal-what I do with me’ sex life is me’ own affair!”
Well, he has seen a lot of Hilda recently-her malapropisms must be rubbing off on him!
I wonder if you remember hilla bakers malapropisms.
The strange thing about the Corner Shop change was that it didn't really change things that much. It was still a hive of gossip and for the first time the sign over it actually read 'CORNER SHOP'. Seemed a lot of trouble to go for not a lot.
Alf does need an electric shaver. You can always tell when he’s cut himself shaving...
I think that's part of his character
Rita should have been given a sainthood considering how patient she was with the simpering, dithering and sanctimonious Mavis😂
Golden age
Bill Waddington , Tom Mennard and Jill Summers great comics all.
How can a bottle lemonade cost more than a bottle of ale 36 min
1:53:52 Hilda is forgetting both Annie Walkers tendency to go walkabout and "migraine coming on" moments as well as how Bet helped her with the trouble she was having with her house.
She is great but can be very spiteful.
That’s a MEgrain to her…
@@victoriadelaney1123 talk about the cure to my MEgraine Victoria, you are fkn brilliant looking 😂 only joking , got to say that now. I hope Charles pulls a MEgraine during this Coronation and leaves William and ginger dome rolling about on the balcony 😜
Yes she was rather spiteful, Bet was always good to her and she did nothing but mix it and revel in Bets troubles. Nasty side to Hilda.
@@Wildzippyso many contradictions in Hilda's character it's unbelievable.
@@theculturedthug6609 Yes indeed. So kind yet so nasty to people when not warranted. A real contradiction in terms.
Oh came here by mistake; this is when Corrie lost it 😢
The shop looks exactly the same size, just laid out better.
I think it is the same size, as Alf didn't end up having any structural renovations
@@bsaunders5271 He did actually, he knocked through to the living accomodation at the back, and demolished the staircase that led up the back, making a new one for the new improved flat.
Looks bigger
No mention of any 'new improved flat' in the scripts or episodes of the time. That's just Corrie Wiki fiction.@@NICKROBERTS23
Bowling episode was brilliant! “Percy! Percy!...” One thing I don’t get tho. Sam told Percy what the prize was-Phyllis-and he didn’t lose! Couldn’t he have lost deliberately?
He tried…he won by accident lol
@@britmum999He didn't it was Jack shouting about the army his pride got in the way of losing. Percy on his toes getting chase by Phyllis was hilarious. 😂
So did Alf put the woman head first into the freezer for saying it was better the way it was before? He looked at her ominously-then we never see her again! 😱😱
Bwahahahaha 🥶
This was when Coronation Street started to go down hill. Never been the same since.
Corrie did suffer after the big-name departures of 1983/84. Many characters were introduced in 1985 that viewers didn't seem to warm to. However, I would watch these episodes of Coronation Street any day compared to the episodes from 2000 onwards.
Oh Bet give your head a wobble! You would think by now she could spot a scammer a mile away 😮
When Edna disapproved of something she was so watchable. I hate ivy and her pompous disdain. When Edna and Martha picked on poor Minnie it was true to life. Rita's constant badgering of Mavis is pathetic. When Stan and Hilda used to argue in public itmwas hilarious. Jack and Vera set my teeth on edge.
Ena not Edna
Bet Lynch with the horn would put many a man in a wheelchair.
I love that Alf's shop seems to have tripled in size without having to buy Hilda's property.
Phyllis reminds me of my ol nan, such a character 😂
What do they mean when they say they are ‘chapel ‘ ?
Bought up a certain way, Chapel goers, very prim and proper
@@bsaunders5271 Usually teetotal as well.
Isn’t there a difference between church and chapel?
@@MissMarie1377 Yes, unlike a church, a chapel is a place of worship that has no pastor or priest and no permanent congregation; it's all about the physical space. In the classic sense, it's usually smaller than a church-sometimes just a room-and can be within a church itself or in a secular place like a hospital or airport.
Chapel is non conformist, Methodist or Baptist ... ie not the C of E, which is the established church.
It's so weird they all struggle with self service shops (not something I remember) so much nicer going in and getting what you need without being fussed lol
Alf is so rude ! 😝
That was a bit cheeky telling Very to cheer up!
Percy on his toes... 😂😂😂😂
Rita really got on my nerves! Attention seeking and over dramatic and belittling to Mavis for the sake of it! Not a fave.
1:53:43 Hilda classic barb no.34686 😂😂
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1:54:26 Hilda classic barb no.34687 😂😂
Two faced Betty
Bet was always very fickle when it came to her friends v her men.
Loved the banter about Sam Tindle with Percy in the cafe , Phyllis ….I’d prefer him to be madly jealous..😅
Gangsters & Cockneys 😂
God Percy can shift like the wind😂
I don't know who's acting is worse the girl who played Susan Barlow or the guy who played Sam tindel 😂
Alf's lovely, I just don't get Rita at all, Len was no oil painting, and he had a belly, Alf's a big chap, but he's a lovely face and he'd do anything for Rita, what a fool she is, and her next chap will make her regret it!
You don't fancy someone then that's all there is to it. Shame he ends up with Audrey who used his "lovely chap" against him
Surprising the Duckeggs weren't in, asking for tick AND a glass of wine, at the grand- opening of the new corner shop.
No Ena, Martha or Minnie or Renee at the corner shop. Not watching anymore 😢
See ya!
Pretty sure coronation street didn't have the budget for cgi or realistic holograms of dead people love 😂
I always likes Betts character seems like at certain point writers or management started turning her to Amazon and then a clown.
Remember, Jack is Not Terry's bio-dad. Vera had an affair.
I thought jack was his proper dad
She did have an affair, but they weren’t sure of the father. I’d say it’s Jack by how he turned out in the end.
Love Terry and kevin and ahe sold kevin 13 coronation st
Percy can run! 😂
2:10:49 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so funny
Wow the new comer shop like a TARDIS 48:06
You know I have watched Coronation Street from the beginning in 1960 when it started till 2023 and what I get from it is that man I tell you those people they eat a lot of pork and tons of alcohol I have never seen I thought Canadians were alcoholics but we could probably drink some under-the-table maybe but it sure would be a challenge hats off to the or drinking
Wow do you even bother watching the rubbish now?
I been around a long time I think most of the new stuff is on tv is RUBBISH
They were all raging alcoholics!
Bossy nosy old bag betty
She has been getting under my skin more and more recently. She is so naive and dumb and self righteous. I can’t stand her.
The way she worshipped Mrs walker and did everything for her and took up for that worthless Fred Gee no matter what awful things he did but then she is nasty to Bet, won’t stop complaining and treats Hilda like she is dirt. Everything about this very dim woman upsets me. At this point I can barely watch scenes she is in.
Why should she have to be dumped on so Bet can get her leg over....nasty .Bet deserves the sack .
She caused so much trouble for Bet.
head 😮 Norman 🍸
Look at all the times Bet supported Hilda, when she needed it.
Now, look at the spiteful old cow, sticking the boot in, every chance she gets. She's in her glory, making sure the whole street knows what's going on with Bet.
They’re all like Hilda. Especially Deirdre and Ken who act superior. Betty should have kept her mouth shut.
Quit telling everyone how to run their lives Alf. Rita was a piece of the puzzle you couldn't get. Get over it!
Nicest I've ever seen Bet
Dr
Hilda gets on my wick at times, and she's such a hypocrite
She's the first person to tell people to mind their own business when something is going on in her own personal life
But Bet, who's always tried to help her out. At the first sign of trouble sticks the knife in...Spiteful and nasty shrew at times
And Alf. I've never liked him, he's an old woman, always shouting, and he marries that horrible trollop Audrey
percy must be loaded never eating at home
dont like alf he is a bully always shouting .
I can’t stand Deidre - so high and mighty!!
As an agnostic, I really can’t fucking stand how Ivy calls a church wedding “proper”. You’re not marrying Jesus, you’re marrying an actual person.
It’s only acting . Some people are suckers for religious cults .
Yes totally agree i got married in a register office the parents on both sides refused to attend saying it wasn't a proper marriage and it wouldn't last well i refused to get married in a church and we are still together 20 years later
Don t think that was her pointless
Ivy was a fundamentalist
@@francesgillotti1378 I know Muslims and jews