I had to BREAK it. Nothing was working and the more my husband and i gurned it, the more it was cracking. It was 118 today so i gave up and went inside and thats when he broke it more. So guess who has to replace a new filter cap? Meeeeeee if i can get it off the housing 😤 my husband is taking it with him to his job since there are proper tools there
@@slinkyyy3 I tried to change the oil myself on my wife's 2015 gs350. It's used and we bought it in Feb. I even bought the tool on ebay ready to change it. It won't budge and I'm pretty stout. I need a lift to get a breaker bar on it so I guess I'm making a trip to a trusted mechanic friend.
Idk who Toyota was trying to protect these oil filters from 🙄🙄🙄 but they did their job on my car smh. My cap wrench won't even budge it. I'm so upset I'm drinking to calm my ass down 😂😂😂
Dang near an impossible oil change. I have a Highlander and spend two days trying to loosen the metal oil filter housing in order to change the filter -- all to no avail. I ended up having to take the car to a shop where, no kidding, it took two men with a 5-FOOT BREAKER BAR to loosen the filter housing. Even they had to work at it a long time. I like Toyotas, but that's the worst oil filter design ever. It's almost like Toyota made it intentionally difficult for the home mechanic to change the oil . . . .
Michael Patrick McClung: Thanks so much for the comment. That's the first time someone has commented that they had as much trouble with a metal one since most of these are plastic. Your experience just further proves that many shops out there are installing these with impact tools that leave them severely over-torqued in a matter of micro seconds. I hope that shops watching this and reading will learn that hand tight is plenty for these filters. Thanks again for the comment and thanks for watching.
It's not the design. It's the idiots that put it on. The torque specs are right on the oil filter cap. I guess the mechanics are illiterate? Maybe Bigfoot is doing oil changes in their shops? Or that guy with the muscles in that TV commercial where he says "I pick things up and put them down". And yes, switching to metal is NOT the solution. An aluminum filter cap screwed into aluminum can experience galling which can be an even worse situation. What is galling? "Galling is a form of wear caused by adhesion between sliding surfaces. When a material galls, some of it is pulled with the contacting surface, especially if there is a large amount of force compressing the surfaces together. Galling is caused by a combination of friction and adhesion between the surfaces, followed by slipping and tearing of crystal structure beneath the surface. This will generally leave some material stuck or even friction welded to the adjacent surface, whereas the galled material may appear gouged with balled-up or torn lumps of material stuck to its surface. Galling is most commonly found in metal surfaces that are in sliding contact with each other. It is especially common where there is inadequate lubrication between the surfaces. However, certain metals will generally be more prone to galling, due to the atomic structure of their crystals. For example, aluminium is a metal that will gall very easily, whereas annealed (softened) steel is slightly more resistant to galling. Steel that is fully hardened is very resistant to galling" I would stay away from the metal oil filter caps unless you're going to change your filter yourself and avoid extended change intervals in which case the plastic one should be just as suitable. Main thing is not to over-torque the thing.
Omg i just came inside so upset 😡 same thing im dealing with. I have a 2019 hiighlander. I'm seriously almost thinkin the dealership never changed the filter at all .
@@ScubaMoto my car has the plastic one - 1/2" torque wrench indicated it was tightened well in excess of 90 ft/lb. What kind of knuckle dragger torques a plastic housing like it's a damn lugnut
I got a Toyota and this was supposed to be my first oil change since I was told it’s one of the easiest things to start working on your car… almost gave up, thought I was weak AF 😂 then came a point where I NEEDED help and looked it up. Found this video and got it! Thank you 😂
I'm sure those idiots at the dealership are using impact tools to tighten the oil canister. I couldn't get mine off so I ran over to Quicky lube and asked if they would change it for. They couldn't get it off! So I took it to another quick change shop and they couldn't get it off. I'm buying an impact wrench like you used and once it's removed I'll torque it to something reasonable. Thanks for the video. I've been turning wrenches for 60 years. Never thought a damn oil filter would stop me!
Mike: Now that sounds familiar! They put them on with air tools to save 2.7 seconds but create a 90-minute project for the next filter change. Thanks for sharing the great comment.
It worked! After watching this video yesterday, I went out today to purchase a 24 mm socket and 1/2 inch impact adapter for my impact drill. Make sure you wear eye protection! It hammered away for about 5-8 seconds with no movement but a lot of metal fragments floating down. Then I noticed it slightly moving as in this video. Just a couple more one second shots and it could be removed by hand. You just saved me a $100 visit to the Toyota dealer.
Thanks for the great comment and congrats on getting the damn thing off! I must confess that I might have deleted a short segment of impacting for UA-cam attention span purposes. But I did include the part where the metal ears broke off the wrench while waiting for the filter housing to begin moving.
Had a 2013 Prius on a lease. At 40K, I decided to DIY the oil change. How hard could it be? LOL Got the $25 cap wrench. Started working on the darned thing. Had visions of the plastic cap cracking. Since I live 25 miles from the dealer and had no way to get there, I gave up. More recently, I did the 40K on my 2016 Prius. Did it at a friend's house closer to the dealer and with her car available if needed in case I had to buy a new cap. Got lucky. Yes, the cap...and drain plug...were on too tight but I was able to get both off with just the cap wrench and 3/8" drive. To borrow a line from Seinfeld, this filter design is "ridickerous". They fixed something that wasn't broken. Spin on filters worked fine for 50 years. Thanks for posting the video. When you try and tell someone how hard it was to change your oil, they find it hard to believe. Now I can just share this video and say "See"?
Apparently more eco friendly (less material), less weight, and cheaper for production. They're not so bad if the previous tech didn't over tighten them, but I hate the stupid design. Spin ons are always better!
don't take it to the mechanic or tell them not to over tighten it. i was told by the mechanic that they always tighten it real good when just enough will do. when i was doing it myself, i never had any problem with the so-called bad design until i got lazy and had the mechanic change oil.
I just gave up on mine and had drained the oil before I tried the filter. I don't have one of these wrenches so now after changing it with $20 of oil I have to take it to an oil change place to get it all done again so they can deal with the filter. That's who made it stuck to start with, and this apparently is going to be an endless cycle on this car. With all the great engineering Toyota put into this car, someone's always gotta come along to screw something up.
Thank you so much for the video! I used my plug in 230ft. lb. impact wrench with the same toothed cap that you showed. It broke one tooth off but I stuck with it and after another 20 seconds or so, it finally loosened up. I wish I had seen you video sooner, but after 4 hours... voila!! Oil change complete :) You're da Man!
R Bebber: Congrats on a job well done! I'm glad the video helped out. And now that you're doing it yourself, it won't get over tightened again. Thanks for watching and for sharing.
Thanks for posting. Have done my daughters Scion for the past few years, never a problem. Today, PITA!. Frozen on. And I "didn't" over-tighten it last time. Had to make an extra trip to the zone, and pick up that wrench. "Another" tool for the collection. :(
joe quillun: Thanks for sharing. You won't be sorry that you now have that wrench. It makes the job so much easier even if the filter isn't stuck. Thanks for watching.
Kou Lee: I've seen a few techs chime in here with comments who appear to know better. But I am surprised at how common it is to over tighten these with impact tools when installing them. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Last winter as a birthday present my daughter took my car to a quick oil change place and had the oil changed! Fast forward to July 2023 and me trying to get the oil filter housing lose to do the next oil change! I used the Toyota tool an extension, a power bar and had to use my foot to push the power bar to remove the cap. I ended up bending the extension, but i got the SOB lose. I have owned my Camry 10 years and never let anyone else change the oil, because i know that oil cap design is garbage. I wish Toyota had just stuck with the regular SPIN ON filter. If something had worked well for over 60 years DONT "F" with it!
Thanks for sharing a great story and congrats on getting one more over-torqued filter off. Her heart was in the right place. Maybe next time to impress you, she can do it herself watching this: ua-cam.com/video/kWWUlyoWFsM/v-deo.html Thanks again for sharing.
omg thank you... I literally had a client today with this issue and almost broke his filter. I have a replacement one but god damn its so stuck on there... I used all the exact tools you did with no avail... I just ordered that oil filter socket just now thanks !
I have the 2010 which is same design but vertical and metal cap. Had to use cheater bar and a dead blow hammer. You bid helped. Thank you. No BS. THANK YOU 👍🏼
my first time doing it for my girl and i was going at the oil filter with a 12" long 27mm wrench for an hour. i got the right leverage and it finally gave. i'm going to be sore tomorrow.
I watched this video before doing the oil change, so I was mentally prepared for this problem. It was torqued so tight my kohl’s electric impact couldn’t move it. I had to go and use an air impact which made short work of it. Toyota techs did not follow the torque spec.
I was having a terrible time getting mine off when suddenly one of the gripping Fins snapped off leaving a hole into the oil area. What finally worked was using a 3/8” punch flat against the lip of the cap going around and around several times while hitting the punch with a one lb hammer firmly but not too firmly. I also wrapped around the cap with 1/2” x12” strip of aluminum tape to make a shim so the filter socket wrench had to be lightly tapped on so it wouldn’t slip. I also heated the cap with a heat gun to try for every advantage. Then using a 1/2” breaker bar it FINALLY broke loose!!! What a relief. The big question is “ why the hell not just use a quality spin on filter ???🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Damn, I thought I was totally incompetent. Cannot believe Toyota has done this. I have always been impressed with Toyota engineering until running into this. My other problem was i took to dealership which I know used air wrench to put it on. I literally had to put old oil back in car and plan on taking to oil change shop who hopefully deals with this BS on daily basis and has found solution. THANK YOU YT.
I️ tightened myself, with hands. I forgot to put a little grease on the border, or with the same oil to moist it before. Today, I️ can’t remove it and even the upper teeth blows away. I️ will by this tool as my last hope.
Everybody over torques these filter caps especially the quick lube places that don't use the correct tools and they almost always damage the caps. I bought the special filter cap wrench that looks very similar to the tool used in this video to change the oil in my relative's Toyota. So far, I haven't any problems getting the cap off since the first oil change because I don't over torque.
I tried changing my oil on my Toyota and I had the same problem. I used 7 different wrenches. I finally went to auto zone and picked up the right wrench
My wife took our Lexus into Jiffy Screwed while I was out of town (I normally change my own oil). When I ventured to change my oil the next time around this happened to me, except the special wrench illustrated here broke. I took it back to Jiffy Screwed and made them loosen it while I watched and tighten it properly with a torque wrench which I provided because they didn't have one. Folks, once the oil filter is seated properly to compress the o-ring on the filter housing it is further tightened to 18 foot lbs - that's an additional 1/8 inch around the circumference, and that's it. Jiffy Screwed is putting these things on with an impact wrench.
George Thompson: Thanks for sharing the great story. I love that you brought it back and had them deal with their own mess. It's not just the lube shops, many dealer techs are using impact to install these thinking they are saving precious time. As for the broken wrench. I'm not sure how it broke but I would guess it split in half at the 3/8 drive insert point. If you use the 3/8 socket drive with an impact tool, they will all eventually break. If you have to use impact, you want to use a 27mm socket on the tool's lug. Thanks again for sharing the great story.
@@ScubaMoto The truly sad thing is these big companies hire young people and toss them into service often with little or no training and don't pay them a living wage. It's pathetic.
The morons at my toyota dealer did this to the filter housing on my sienna. I have the same impact wrench, and it broke the top off my cap wrench without loosening. Time to go to the dealer and lay into them.
Matt Hayllar: That sounds bad. It's good you're okay. Maybe the dealer will introduce you to the tech who installed it with impact so they can see the consequences and figure out how to remove it. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
I had the same problem. After my free services ran out, I went to do it myself, and had to resort to an impact wrench as you did. The thing than really pissed me off about it was, the dealership did that to the filter cartridge. No excuse for that whatsoever... as you pointed out, the torque spec is a surprisingly low 18 foot pounds, which I actually do with a torque wrench... the drain plug too... because I have OCD lol
I'm glad you took the time to carefully do your own maintenance. Free service isn't always the best service. Congrats on a job well done. Thanks for watching and for sharing your comment.
Reading this and dealing with a tight cap myself has convinced me that the dealership's $85 oil change is a rip-off and scam. Doing it myself from now on.
disillusions: $85 isn't even that cheap for an oil change. Plus you have to leave it with them, plus who knows what oil goes in. My oil, my filter: $30. My torque and no drive to their shop: priceless.
ScubaMoto I totally agree. I was always inclined to think that you get what you pay for and therefore I was getting top quality service with the dealership at the price they're charging. If they're applying this much torque just putting on an oil filter - who knows what other shady stuff is going on. I wouldn't be too surprised if they over tightened the oil filter because I declined having them change the two air filters at some ungodly high price. Ugh
I'm so glad you did this video my husband just came back from Toyota and they tried to tell him that this cap was " wearing out and needs replacement". Of course they want $90 for the part but now that I've seen your video I can see that they are the ones that actually broke it because they're the only ones who have ever done any oil changes on it. That stops today I'm going back to changing the oil myself again.
I just had to deal with this on my uncle's car. It was leaking oil from the drain plug. I got under there and I was able to turn the drain plug out with my fingers. But the filter canister was incredibly tight. I bought the filter tool from AutoZone and it's not as solid is the one used in this video. I used a breaker bar and it bent the tool! With more work a piece of the cap busted off and created a hole before finally coming loose. The last place to change the oil was the dealership and they didn't tighten the drain plug but over tightened the filter! It was Larry Miller Toyota in the Phoenix area.
jorge242: If the dealer was the last to change the oil then at minimum they did so without changing the filter and possibly over-tightened a new filter. Either way, congratulations on finally undoing someone else's mistake and removing it. Now that you're doing the oil/filter changes yourself, you won't need to encounter an over-torqued filter again. Thanks for sharing the great story.
I appreciate your help. The idiots at the dealer over-torque during the 10K service of my Highlander. Crazy situation as I also own a Tacoma as well and never had such of trouble trying to change the oil filter. Sure thing the 27MM socket and my newly purchase power wrench for my wheels and it came off with a couple of attempts. Thank you!
I was trying to change the engine oil for wife's 2013 Prius for the 1st time last weekend. She had been doing it in the dealer. The drain plug went off easily with my 2 ft wrench. The filter was very hard even with the right cap wrench and 2 ft handle bar. I almost gave up before I use my feet to push the wrench bar to get it loose. Similar story on my 2011 Venza. I agree the dealer was trying to stop us from DIY oil changing. Will never do oil change there again.
litong li: Thanks for the comment and congratulations on a job well done. Now that you're doing it yourself, it will never get over-torqued again. Thanks again for the comment and for sharing.
The WORST part of all of this is that the O-ring is installed in what is called a "static radial seal" which achieves full sealing as soon as the o-ring is fully engaged with the mating bore. any further tightening does NOTHING other than seat the housing to prevent it from unscrewing, and the metal tab is insurance against that. (Unlike a cartridge oil filter which has a static axial seal which relies on enough compression to withstand the oil pressure.) In an industrial setting I LOVE Static radial seal type oil filters precisely because of the way they work. You can just hand tighten them to get a leak free seal, and then no need for a wrench to change them.
Exactly. As soon as the O-ring is embedded, it's giving all the seal that it ever will. It's pointless to over-tighten it. But my guess is that most cases of over-tightening are the result of shop techs using a pneumatic wrench to install them with speed as the objective. In a fraction of a second, it puts a few hundred ft-lbs of torque on the housing saving the shop tech at least 6.5 seconds on the install. Time has value! The O-ring feels nothing. Never mind the 1.5 hours plus replacement parts it might cost on the next removal. Thanks much for the great comment.
mike vonkleist: and a complex design too. Production costs on this filter housing must have been ridiculous compared to simply specking out a standard metal canister filter like most vehicles.
Just went through this with my 2016 corolla. I bought it used from dealership, and they serviced it beforehand. This was my first oil change on it. And unfortunately my electric impact drill is too big to fit into that space. I ended up just changing the oil this time, and was just going to take it to the dealership or a trusted mechanic for the next oil and filter change. But after watching your video, I think I will instead put that money towards a smaller battery-powered impact drill. Thank you!
Before investing in another impact gun, you might want to try a 1/2 drive ratchet with a 27mm socket on the lug of the filter wrench. You can either slip a long extension pipe on a standard ratchet or use a 24-inch cheater bar and see if that works. Again, you want to do this using a 27mm socket on the filter wrench. If you put a 3/8 drive directly into the head of the filter wrench, you might split the filter wrench in half with a stuck filter. It may also help to spray the base of the filter housing generously with penetrating oil where it contacts the engine and let it sit overnight. In my case (this video), impact was a last resort since my pipe extension was just rocking the car on jack stands and that wasn't safe so impact was necessary.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, and so quickly. Yes I hadn't even considered using the 27mm socket and was just inserting the 3/8" ratchet head in the attachment. I will try that with some penetrating oil on the next oil change. I'm doing this all at home with the car driven up on ramps, so I don't have a lot of room to get a cheater bar on, but I will try your recommendations first before getting another impact drill. Since I already changed the oil and replace it with advanced full synthetic, I was just going to wait until the next oil change to try again. But now I'm wondering if I can just change the filter without draining the oil? I tried searching but I get mixed answers, some say it depends on the vehicle. Do you know if that can be done on the 2016 corolla?
The discovery that I show in video was that the filter was NOT being replaced at the intervals shown on the dealer's maintenance log for the previous owner. It turned out that if I couldn't get it off, there was no reason to think that they could either. And they weren't. Sure enough, it was clear that the filter you see me pull out in the video was in use for A LOT more than one oil change interval. It's impossible to know how many oil changes they did without changing the filter. These filter housings are designed with a pressure bypass so that if the filter reaches a certain "Clog pressure" oil will simply bypass it and not get filtered. The advantage is to sustain oil pressure where you need it. The obvious downside is that all particulates are getting full distribution in the engine over and over. To answer your question, you would want to drain the oil to replace the filter. To salvage your new oil, you could always clean capture the fresh oil for continued use. It's risky and you would want to pour it in through some filtration. BUT before draining anything, confirm that you can loosen that filter. Good luck with it.
Had the same problem on my Tacoma. From my last dealer freebie. Even with the engine warm. I had to bring the engine up to operating temp, and still had to reef on it to get it off. It''ll be interesting to see if it comes off easy next time.
Had a offer from the Toyota for 3 free oil changes. No way was I going to let those retards touch my car and have them put the cap on and torque it to 2,000,000 ft/lbs. Even with it free I wasn't going to drive 2 hours each way. Want to get it done right then I will do it myself.
The newest technological innovation in engine oil filtration after 80 years of the canister oil filter which worked well, was easier to service, and cost less.
I'm going to try changing the oil filter on my Toyota Corolla with this oil filter canister. Just got the car back in December of last year. I've never changed the filter. The clip is gone and it was last changed by an indie mechanic. I'm worried that the canister is on really tight. Have the socket tool from Toyota. I'm glad that I saw this excellent video, because now I know what to do if it's over tightened and can't get it off by normal means. Thank you for sharing this knowledge, brother!
audiophile man: I'm glad you liked the video. Since you have the correct wrench, you first try a long-handled wrench (cheater bar). Just be sure the vehicle is well supported so it is safe to do so. If that doesn't work then impact with high torque (like in the video) should get the job done. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto Thanks for the further tip on the cheater bar. I've been working on cars and truck for decades, so I'm sure that I can get it done. Hopefully, it won't be too hard to get it off. Have a good day, sir!👍👍👍
Same story, on my 2021 Highlander, first 2 changes were done by the dealer, next change I purchased my own filter and oil. I nearly broke the plastic housing since it was torqued on so tightly at the dealer ship, I had to purchase the same filter removal tool from Amazon for 15 bucks, the dealer wanted to charge 50 bucks for the same tool. Anyway I purchased a new plastic filter housing, I could still use the old one although it rounded some chips off the plastic. I didn't torque it on super tight like they did so it should come off next time. I hate taking my car to the dealership for service. I'm OCD about my cars, the dealers don't always do the best work. Its easier to get to the filter on the highlander, there is an under cover, but remove it with 2 x 10 MM bolts and one clip and you don't have to remove the 2 clips further back. The filter housing is straight up and down, very easy as long as its not over tightened.
All the dealer certifications in the world won't make them care about your car more than you do. It's good to hear you're willing to take control of maintaining it well. Good job with it. Thanks for sharing.
Thank You Sir. Doing my Studies BEFORE I help the neighbor. By the looks of what happened there, a quality '6 point' 27mm socket would not chatter so bad and booger up the Filter Wrench Hex.
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped. I didn't yet have one on hand when making the first video, but evidently we agree on the 6-point for impact: ua-cam.com/video/kWWUlyoWFsM/v-deo.html Thanks for the comment and good luck with it.
Yep, I hate the new canisters Toyota went to....the removal tool you show was the first thing I bought after doing my own oil change. (Had the dealer change the oil in my Tundra, once, and they must've used the impact on the canister because that thing was WAY too tight...never letting them do it, again!)
Colorado Boo: Great comment. They just don't realize how much torque an impact wrench can build instantly. It saved them 1.7 seconds of install time and leaves a project for the next removal. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Nice video, well done. After breaking the tabs off with the stamped (cheapo) version of Toyota tool & and everything else in my tool box. Finally managed to get it off with a pipe wrench + 24" piece of pipe. Of course destroyed the cap in the process and replaced with aftermarket one. 30 minute oil change turned into 3 hour ordeal.
noname mcnoname: I tried it the other way around. My 2-foot cheater bar with a pipe slipped on it was just rocking the car so I decided to try impact. You can see in the video the toll it took, but it finally get the job done with a little patience. Such a brilliant filter housing design . . . I'm glad you finally got yours off. Thanks for watching and for the story.
Do not use aftermarket caps. The cap contains a calibrated spring. Any mishap in here can be catastrophic, as not enough oil can pass if it's too hard, or it won't filter, it it's too loose. Always replace the cap with an original one.
What people fail to understand about an o ring compared to a gasket is an o ring is a hydraulic seal. You don't need to crank it down so tight. It wouldn't leak anyway. How ironic!
i have serviced a car a few times with this type of filter housing, i found that lubricating the plastic threads with silicone lube and the face of the housing that contacts the housing, will help a lot next time you have to loosen it :)
Martin møller: Thanks for the comment. I just use some fresh oil on the threads and do NOT over-tighten. Then they always come off fine. I'm sure silicone grease would be good also. Thanks again for watching and for the comment.
2011 Camry. I went to do the oil change for the first time and broke the 6 little teeth off using the correct filter wrench. A lot of cussing later I finally managed to get it off after adding and extending pipe to my ratchet. I put it on just snug and haven’t had an issue since
Thanks for the video and tips. Like many other's, I couldn't budge the filter cap. Got the proper cap wrench with the extra teeth on the side (I had one that only had the polygonal cap part which was not working). My impact driver did not have enough torque to loosen it, but a 1/2" breaker bar with manual impact from a rubber mallet was enough to break it free. Only minor problem is now the cap wrench won't come off the filter cap. Hopefully it will just stay there permanently and not fall off while driving.
fzumrk2000: Thanks for sharing your experience and congratulations on getting one of these off when it's been over-torqued. The wrench getting stuck on the filter cap is super common. Your impact wrench will be strong enough to get it off. With the filter off the vehicle, set the impact wrench as if tightening the filter (clockwise) and give it a short burst. That usually gets the wrench off quickly. Even if it's on the car, the same method will release it with a burst short enough NOT to torque the filter on at 300 ft-lbs. Then you can easily reset the proper tightness and you're done. I hope that helps.
Have been trying all day to get the oil filter off but like yours it was stuck solid, but also the filter wrench I ordered didn't fit well enough. Never thought of using my power wrench but certainly will once I get the new oil filter wrench. Thanks 👍.
Good choice on getting the right filter wrench. You might want to try a breaker bar with a 27mm socket on the lug of the new filter wrench first before using the impact wrench. My impact wrench did finally work but it's a hostile force on that filter housing. I tried a breaker bar first and it just rocked the car so impact prevailed. Good luck with it.
I GOT THE SAME FREAKING PROBLEM HAD THE LAST TWO OIL CHANGE ON DEALERSHIP NOW I AM DOING IT MYSELF AND FREAKING STUCK AND SPENT OVER 100 CAD BUCKS FOR THE RIGHT CAP THAT DOESN'T BREAK HOLY SHEET! SORRY FOR THE CAP FONTS~ PROS
I work in a shop. Working on a Rav4. Popped the Nut off the socket I bought at Advance Auto. Took it home and Welded it. As it was made out of steel. Next time I was in the store, Associate said she replaced several for the same reason. Look inside a new one, You can see a Tiny weld. Mine is not pretty. But it is definitely stronger.
I got a used Toyota sienna and i swear either the dealer ridiculously overtightened it or they never changed the filter just the oil. had to do same thing you did with socket and impact wrench. I found putting some silicone grease on end of filter housing and barely tightening it the thing comes off ok.
Thank you, I had hard time removing the oil filter cap. I need to get that tool that you used. Al to all, careful with the one you buy. The hare different width with different out of width, and it if is too wide, it will hit the side of the engine block.
The guy that did my oil used an impact to put it on. When I tried to take it off it would not budge at all. Hammered a Phillips head screwdriver in one side and out the other. Finally got it off at the expense of having to break it.
Axel 9419: Thanks for the comment. It's a shame that someone else's mistake cost you a filter housing and probably a lot of hassle. But congratulations on getting it off. Now that you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-torqued again. Thanks for watching and for sharing.
I'm definitely gonna use this Method for sure my Aunt Toyota cap is Really stuck on tight But I have a impact with 1200 foot pounds of Torque I'm sure that Bad boy will brake it lose I hope
It has drain plug at least on my Camry you have to on screw first to take off pressure in oil system after that it much easier to on screw filter love this filter less garbage
Aleksey Abramchuk: Thanks for the comment. Opening (unscrewing) the filler plug will help drain the oil but will not help with an over-tightened filter. Thanks for watching.
The 2.5 engine takes a different oil cap removal tool. Also it has a drainplug on the oil filter cap because it's mounted vertically. The 18 ft.lbs. of torque still applies to the filter cap but the drainplug on it only gets 10 ft.lbs. of torque.
Yup had this problem on a 2012 corolla. Good lord it took me an hour to get the damn thing turning. Tried hammering etc but eventually turned it with just pure strength pushing it to dear life lol. I thought I was just weak or something...
i went to a quick lube shop to get yearly inspection, i asked to also get oil change cause it was overdue. i have a rav4, as i was sitting in my vehicle, i felt the vehicle shake, i look at the camera feed of under my vehicle and this 250 pound man was tightening the shit out of the oil filter. i am gonna have a heck of a time taking that oil filter off next time it needs oil change. i usually do the oil change myself, but i didn't have time.
Mario V: Absolutely agree, but I'm fairly sure most people dealing with this problem are following an oil change done by a third party who probably used an impact wrench to install the filter. That was the case of the one in the video. it was last serviced at a dealer who installed it with an impact wrench. It's very common. Thanks for the comment.
Luckily I have never had a problem with mine. I don't understand why anyone would over torque, when you tighten it comes to a complete stop, no need to tighten any more. Plus this housing is plastic, no way I would ever use a filter wrench or vice grips ...only use the socket type as in this video. I just have the cheaper metal Walmart version, it has worked well for years. No need to bang off the socket, when you put the housing back on it will loosen as soon as you reach the full stop tighten position and it will just come right off.
David Houlden that's a good question on why anyone would ever tighten it so much. I've always had my 13' corolla serviced at the dealer up until 108k when I finally decided to do it myself and yes, I ended up breaking the wrench with a cheater bar. I suppose they do it for self protection to avoid any wrongdoing if it were to come off. Oh well, off to Sears tomorrow morning...
I let the dealership change the oil and filter under warranty, they nutted it down so it was almost impossible to get off. That was the last time I let them change the oil
I'm wondering if the dealerships put kids and techs. with little experience in the "quick-lube" area to do oil changes and tire rotations?? I learned how to change oil before I could drive a car.... at the same time learned how to properly use a torque wrench for the drain plug and filter.
Stephen Maurer: That's such a great point. I can relate, it's a good basic maintenance skill. But whether it's a dealership or a fast-lube type place, when a young tech is furnished a nice pneumatic impact driver; and he's paid by the job, the last thing he'll reach for is a torque wrench. Most of them are moving as fast as they can to make as much as they can. So the filter wrench goes on the driver, the filter gets pounded home to 200-300ft-lbs in lightning speed and it's on to the next victim. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
This is a great video that deals with a common problem. I bought the Motivx oil filter cap removal tool for our 2009 RAV4. I also bought a torque wrench to assure that I don't over-torque it myself. And I bought a 27 mm socket and ½ inch drive breaker bar just in case I need it to remove the oil filter cap. I don't hate the design. In fact I sort of like it. But that's just me. I'm one of those persons who often prefer to follow the road less traveled... (Looking for a challenge and adventure).
Steven Sevek: Thanks for chiming in. As you know, this video addresses the consequences of a very common installation mistake; using impact to install a Toyota oil filter. Many Techs make this mistake thinking they are saving time. But in a moment of impact, they are generating an exercize of removal for the next oil change. This video was the only case of a filter removal that required such impact to remove. But based on the comments here and elswhere, I am guessing that many have been installed with impact thus creating similar removal difficulties. A long extension pipe slipped over a breaker bar had already failed on the vehicle in this video. I'm confident that the dealer tech who had last installed the filter shown in this video, put it on so tight using impact that they could no longer even get it off. The entire recorded service history was this same dealer. I believe they gave up on changing the filter for subsequent oil changes and that they had been simply changing the oil and no longer replacing the filter. I base that on the condition of the filter cartidge that I finally removed (in this video) and on the degree of difficulty required to remove it even with the 300ft-lb impact driver. It's true that the wrench in this video lost one of the small teeth during the very violent removal required using 300 ft-lbs with impact. But that very same wrench has been more than adequate for many subsequent removals of filters that are not over-torqued. A 27mm socket on a standard length ratchet has easily worked by hand to remove filters that I personally installed with the correct 18 ft-lbs of torque using the same old wrench shown in this video. Actually, the 3/8-inch drive on the wrench usually works fine with a standard ratchet if it hasn't been over tightened. Thanks again for your comment and input.
Well great info. But this sucks for me. I’m in this spot at this very moment. But I don’t have impact tool. The last shop I went to must have really cranked it down to death.
I'll try to help you get it. Impact was actually my last resort but it did work after all else failed. Leverage is always the best choice to start with. But at minimum, you really do need to have that filter wrench with the cut-outs that is shown in the video. It's the only way you will be able to put the forces necessary on that factory filter housing. The filter housing wrenches are usually available at local parts counters but I've also got links in the video description that are cheap and will get the job done. If you have a couple feet of pipe that can slip over your ratchet handle to get extra leverage that usually works as good as a cheater bar (extended ratchet). I first tried a several foot long piece of pipe and it wouldn't budge. Impact works because it combines the torque of having leverage with the impact force that helps "bump" things loose. That combination is the last resort before destroying the housing for removal and installing a new one. I hope that helps. Good luck with it.
As long as they are not over tightened they are ok. But I still had to spend money on the specialty tool to do a simple oil change. Why? Nothing wrong with the old style. Let’s complicate something simple that worked just fine. Annoying!!!
I just broke my oil filter removal tool on Friday trying to take off a housing that had been last torqued on by the 'Stealership'. the spec is 18Ftlbs for the housing and 10ftlbs for the plug if there is one on the bottom. I notice your filter is on sideways but on my Tundra and my wifes Highlander they are vertically mounted.
Yes the 1.8L engine has a different oil filter cap than the larger engines and takes a different tool. The larger ones have a drain plug cause they are mounted vertically.
I tried again today to remove the oil filter housing with steel oil filter wrench connected to an impact wrench. The nut welded on to the oil filter wrench broke off while the oil filter housing didn't budge one bit.
I've only heard of a few cases that were even worse than the one in the video but yours sounds pretty bad. First things first, this is going to take some time, so please secure alternate transport for a day or so and allow yourself to take the time needed for this job. Before trying impact again with a new forged or cast filter wrench, you'll need penetrating oil like Liquid Wrench. EDIT: Forged steel and cast aluminum wrenches are one-piece, where some steel ones have a seam at the lug that may separate. The wrenches all have yield points beyond which they'll break. Using a 27mm socket over the lug rather than the 3/8" drive will reduce the risk of breaking the wrench. Let it sit overnight (Yep, 24 hours) with penetrating oil sprayed generously on the contact between the housing and the engine. Come back in a few hours and spray it again with penetrating oil. It's bound to the engine at the base surface of the filter housing. After soaking OVERNIGHT with penetrating oil; first try a breaker bar, then try a breaker bar with a pipe slipped on it. Then move onto the impact wrench. Always using a socket and NOT the 3/8" drive port. I hope that helps. Side note: Then talk to whoever installed the last filter and have a conversation about how the install torque setting is only 18 ft-lbs (hand tight).
Where you able to remove it ? And did you use the same housing ? Because that’s what I’m afraid of to remove it and the threads won’t be any good anymore then I would have to get another one!
I hate this design. It turned a 15 minute oil change into a 2 hour pain in the a$$ running back and forth to the parts store
Dude, with you there. Fuck. Love toyota, but dang this oil filter design is HORRIBLE
I know the pain 😭😭😭
Same here today 😭
I had to BREAK it. Nothing was working and the more my husband and i gurned it, the more it was cracking. It was 118 today so i gave up and went inside and thats when he broke it more. So guess who has to replace a new filter cap? Meeeeeee if i can get it off the housing 😤 my husband is taking it with him to his job since there are proper tools there
@@slinkyyy3 I tried to change the oil myself on my wife's 2015 gs350. It's used and we bought it in Feb. I even bought the tool on ebay ready to change it. It won't budge and I'm pretty stout. I need a lift to get a breaker bar on it so I guess I'm making a trip to a trusted mechanic friend.
Idk who Toyota was trying to protect these oil filters from 🙄🙄🙄 but they did their job on my car smh. My cap wrench won't even budge it. I'm so upset I'm drinking to calm my ass down 😂😂😂
Dang near an impossible oil change. I have a Highlander and spend two days trying to loosen the metal oil filter housing in order to change the filter -- all to no avail. I ended up having to take the car to a shop where, no kidding, it took two men with a 5-FOOT BREAKER BAR to loosen the filter housing. Even they had to work at it a long time. I like Toyotas, but that's the worst oil filter design ever. It's almost like Toyota made it intentionally difficult for the home mechanic to change the oil . . . .
Michael Patrick McClung: Thanks so much for the comment. That's the first time someone has commented that they had as much trouble with a metal one since most of these are plastic. Your experience just further proves that many shops out there are installing these with impact tools that leave them severely over-torqued in a matter of micro seconds. I hope that shops watching this and reading will learn that hand tight is plenty for these filters. Thanks again for the comment and thanks for watching.
It's not the design. It's the idiots that put it on. The torque specs are right on the oil filter cap. I guess the mechanics are illiterate? Maybe Bigfoot is doing oil changes in their shops? Or that guy with the muscles in that TV commercial where he says "I pick things up and put them down".
And yes, switching to metal is NOT the solution. An aluminum filter cap screwed into aluminum can experience galling which can be an even worse situation. What is galling?
"Galling is a form of wear caused by adhesion between sliding surfaces. When a material galls, some of it is pulled with the contacting surface, especially if there is a large amount of force compressing the surfaces together. Galling is caused by a combination of friction and adhesion between the surfaces, followed by slipping and tearing of crystal structure beneath the surface. This will generally leave some material stuck or even friction welded to the adjacent surface, whereas the galled material may appear gouged with balled-up or torn lumps of material stuck to its surface.
Galling is most commonly found in metal surfaces that are in sliding contact with each other. It is especially common where there is inadequate lubrication between the surfaces. However, certain metals will generally be more prone to galling, due to the atomic structure of their crystals. For example, aluminium is a metal that will gall very easily, whereas annealed (softened) steel is slightly more resistant to galling. Steel that is fully hardened is very resistant to galling"
I would stay away from the metal oil filter caps unless you're going to change your filter yourself and avoid extended change intervals in which case the plastic one should be just as suitable. Main thing is not to over-torque the thing.
Omg i just came inside so upset 😡 same thing im dealing with. I have a 2019 hiighlander. I'm seriously almost thinkin the dealership never changed the filter at all .
@@ScubaMoto my car has the plastic one - 1/2" torque wrench indicated it was tightened well in excess of 90 ft/lb. What kind of knuckle dragger torques a plastic housing like it's a damn lugnut
They are super easy if you do em but if a shop over tightens it your fucked
I got a Toyota and this was supposed to be my first oil change since I was told it’s one of the easiest things to start working on your car… almost gave up, thought I was weak AF 😂 then came a point where I NEEDED help and looked it up. Found this video and got it! Thank you 😂
Glad it helped and congrats on getting the job done.
I'm sure those idiots at the dealership are using impact tools to tighten the oil canister. I couldn't get mine off so I ran over to Quicky lube and asked if they would change it for. They couldn't get it off! So I took it to another quick change shop and they couldn't get it off. I'm buying an impact wrench like you used and once it's removed I'll torque it to something reasonable. Thanks for the video. I've been turning wrenches for 60 years. Never thought a damn oil filter would stop me!
Mike: Now that sounds familiar! They put them on with air tools to save 2.7 seconds but create a 90-minute project for the next filter change. Thanks for sharing the great comment.
It worked! After watching this video yesterday, I went out today to purchase a 24 mm socket and 1/2 inch impact adapter for my impact drill. Make sure you wear eye protection! It hammered away for about 5-8 seconds with no movement but a lot of metal fragments floating down. Then I noticed it slightly moving as in this video. Just a couple more one second shots and it could be removed by hand. You just saved me a $100 visit to the Toyota dealer.
Thanks for the great comment and congrats on getting the damn thing off! I must confess that I might have deleted a short segment of impacting for UA-cam attention span purposes. But I did include the part where the metal ears broke off the wrench while waiting for the filter housing to begin moving.
Had a 2013 Prius on a lease. At 40K, I decided to DIY the oil change. How hard could it be? LOL
Got the $25 cap wrench. Started working on the darned thing. Had visions of the plastic cap cracking. Since I live 25 miles from the dealer and had no way to get there, I gave up.
More recently, I did the 40K on my 2016 Prius. Did it at a friend's house closer to the dealer and with her car available if needed in case I had to buy a new cap.
Got lucky. Yes, the cap...and drain plug...were on too tight but I was able to get both off with just the cap wrench and 3/8" drive.
To borrow a line from Seinfeld, this filter design is "ridickerous". They fixed something that wasn't broken. Spin on filters worked fine for 50 years.
Thanks for posting the video. When you try and tell someone how hard it was to change your oil, they find it hard to believe. Now I can just share this video and say "See"?
Mike Rafferty: Thanks for sharing the great story and congrats on a successful job. Welcome to the "Super Strange Filter Wrench Owners Club".
The Toyota designer should be ashamed. What’s wrong with the old spin old filter ?
Apparently more eco friendly (less material), less weight, and cheaper for production. They're not so bad if the previous tech didn't over tighten them, but I hate the stupid design. Spin ons are always better!
They need to hire an design ingenier like me. But young People are more Stupid thrue The years...
don't take it to the mechanic or tell them not to over tighten it. i was told by the mechanic that they always tighten it real good when just enough will do. when i was doing it myself, i never had any problem with the so-called bad design until i got lazy and had the mechanic change oil.
@@whatever5575 Same thing happened to me. I've noticed that even good mechanics tend to get sloppy with the so-called simple jobs.
Its not as environmentally friendly 🚯
I just gave up on mine and had drained the oil before I tried the filter. I don't have one of these wrenches so now after changing it with $20 of oil I have to take it to an oil change place to get it all done again so they can deal with the filter. That's who made it stuck to start with, and this apparently is going to be an endless cycle on this car.
With all the great engineering Toyota put into this car, someone's always gotta come along to screw something up.
Thank you so much for the video! I used my plug in 230ft. lb. impact wrench with the same toothed cap that you showed. It broke one tooth off but I stuck with it and after another 20 seconds or so, it finally loosened up. I wish I had seen you video sooner, but after 4 hours... voila!! Oil change complete :) You're da Man!
R Bebber: Congrats on a job well done! I'm glad the video helped out. And now that you're doing it yourself, it won't get over tightened again. Thanks for watching and for sharing.
Thanks for posting. Have done my daughters Scion for the past few years, never a problem. Today, PITA!. Frozen on. And I "didn't" over-tighten it last time. Had to make an extra trip to the zone, and pick up that wrench. "Another" tool for the collection. :(
joe quillun: Thanks for sharing. You won't be sorry that you now have that wrench. It makes the job so much easier even if the filter isn't stuck. Thanks for watching.
Worked at Toyota for 6 years and all the techs over torque these filters. I’ve always hand tighten these.
Kou Lee: I've seen a few techs chime in here with comments who appear to know better. But I am surprised at how common it is to over tighten these with impact tools when installing them. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
@@ScubaMoto If you want a "job done right" do it yourself. Thanks for a great vid!!
Steve Maurer: Well said! Thanks for watching and for the great comment.
I agree they do overtorque everything.
That's me right now, tried running hot, cold, rag in cup and now im grabbing an extended handle after gouging my palm on the short one
Last winter as a birthday present my daughter took my car to a quick oil change place and had the oil changed! Fast forward to July 2023 and me trying to get the oil filter housing lose to do the next oil change! I used the Toyota tool an extension, a power bar and had to use my foot to push the power bar to remove the cap. I ended up bending the extension, but i got the SOB lose. I have owned my Camry 10 years and never let anyone else change the oil, because i know that oil cap design is garbage. I wish Toyota had just stuck with the regular SPIN ON filter. If something had worked well for over 60 years DONT "F" with it!
Thanks for sharing a great story and congrats on getting one more over-torqued filter off. Her heart was in the right place. Maybe next time to impress you, she can do it herself watching this: ua-cam.com/video/kWWUlyoWFsM/v-deo.html Thanks again for sharing.
omg thank you... I literally had a client today with this issue and almost broke his filter. I have a replacement one but god damn its so stuck on there... I used all the exact tools you did with no avail... I just ordered that oil filter socket just now thanks !
I have the 2010 which is same design but vertical and metal cap. Had to use cheater bar and a dead blow hammer. You bid helped. Thank you. No BS. THANK YOU 👍🏼
This was very helpful! I lucked out and a little more arm on the "lever" allowed me to get it loose.
Shane Hilt: : That's great. And since you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-tightened. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I have a 2014 Camry and it has the same filter that is mounted vertically versus horizontal. Someone really over tightened it. Thank you!
Michael Ackerman: I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
my first time doing it for my girl and i was going at the oil filter with a 12" long 27mm wrench for an hour. i got the right leverage and it finally gave. i'm going to be sore tomorrow.
Jesse Costa: Congratulations on getting it off. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
I watched this video before doing the oil change, so I was mentally prepared for this problem. It was torqued so tight my kohl’s electric impact couldn’t move it. I had to go and use an air impact which made short work of it. Toyota techs did not follow the torque spec.
CG Eucare: Sound familiar. Thanks for watching and for sharing your success.
I needed a pipe on my ratchet to get the extra torque needed to loosen the filter on my 16 T4R. I think some places use an impact gun to tighten them.
I was having a terrible time getting mine off when suddenly one of the gripping Fins snapped off leaving a hole into the oil area.
What finally worked was using a 3/8” punch flat against the lip of the cap going around and around several times while hitting the punch with a one lb hammer firmly but not too firmly.
I also wrapped around the cap with 1/2” x12” strip of aluminum tape to make a shim so the filter socket wrench had to be lightly tapped on so it wouldn’t slip. I also heated the cap with a heat gun to try for every advantage. Then using a 1/2” breaker bar it FINALLY broke loose!!! What a relief.
The big question is “ why the hell not just use a quality spin on filter ???🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Nicely handled! I hope you didn't have to wait too long for a replacement housing. Thanks for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto fortunately our local parts house stocks them. They said it’s a very common problem so they keep a few of the metal ones in stock. 😎
In my Jeep, I just casually crawl under there, beer in one hand, and poof. Oil filter is removed. In the wife's corolla....#$@!$%#
That's what you get for having a wife!
@@orionred2489 LMAO
Damn, I thought I was totally incompetent. Cannot believe Toyota has done this. I have always been impressed with Toyota engineering until running into this. My other problem was i took to dealership which I know used air wrench to put it on. I literally had to put old oil back in car and plan on taking to oil change shop who hopefully deals with this BS on daily basis and has found solution. THANK YOU YT.
I guess the last guy torqued it to "AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT ft lbs" spec.
I️ tightened myself, with hands. I forgot to put a little grease on the border, or with the same oil to moist it before. Today, I️ can’t remove it and even the upper teeth blows away. I️ will by this tool as my last hope.
Stealership overtightened mine on a rav4 2014 so i had to get this wrench. It is true that it tightens itself.
Quentyn73 same 2014 rav4. Omg did I have a time trying to get if off
I hand tighten plus an 1/8th. Never a problem for more than a decade of oil changes on a Corolla and a Camry.
Thank you goat ! Literally just did this at work saved customer from having to purchase new housing
Glad I could help. Thanks for sharing.
Ive broken 2 tops off of that metal cap to remove the oil filter and now im here
Everybody over torques these filter caps especially the quick lube places that don't use the correct tools and they almost always damage the caps. I bought the special filter cap wrench that looks very similar to the tool used in this video to change the oil in my relative's Toyota. So far, I haven't any problems getting the cap off since the first oil change because I don't over torque.
PickleRix: That's great. And since you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-tightened. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I tried changing my oil on my Toyota and I had the same problem. I used 7 different wrenches. I finally went to auto zone and picked up the right wrench
My wife took our Lexus into Jiffy Screwed while I was out of town (I normally change my own oil). When I ventured to change my oil the next time around this happened to me, except the special wrench illustrated here broke. I took it back to Jiffy Screwed and made them loosen it while I watched and tighten it properly with a torque wrench which I provided because they didn't have one. Folks, once the oil filter is seated properly to compress the o-ring on the filter housing it is further tightened to 18 foot lbs - that's an additional 1/8 inch around the circumference, and that's it. Jiffy Screwed is putting these things on with an impact wrench.
George Thompson: Thanks for sharing the great story. I love that you brought it back and had them deal with their own mess. It's not just the lube shops, many dealer techs are using impact to install these thinking they are saving precious time. As for the broken wrench. I'm not sure how it broke but I would guess it split in half at the 3/8 drive insert point. If you use the 3/8 socket drive with an impact tool, they will all eventually break. If you have to use impact, you want to use a 27mm socket on the tool's lug. Thanks again for sharing the great story.
@@ScubaMoto The truly sad thing is these big companies hire young people and toss them into service often with little or no training and don't pay them a living wage. It's pathetic.
The morons at my toyota dealer did this to the filter housing on my sienna. I have the same impact wrench, and it broke the top off my cap wrench without loosening. Time to go to the dealer and lay into them.
Matt Hayllar: That sounds bad. It's good you're okay. Maybe the dealer will introduce you to the tech who installed it with impact so they can see the consequences and figure out how to remove it. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
I had the same problem. After my free services ran out, I went to do it myself, and had to resort to an impact wrench as you did. The thing than really pissed me off about it was, the dealership did that to the filter cartridge. No excuse for that whatsoever... as you pointed out, the torque spec is a surprisingly low 18 foot pounds, which I actually do with a torque wrench... the drain plug too... because I have OCD lol
I'm glad you took the time to carefully do your own maintenance. Free service isn't always the best service. Congrats on a job well done. Thanks for watching and for sharing your comment.
Reading this and dealing with a tight cap myself has convinced me that the dealership's $85 oil change is a rip-off and scam. Doing it myself from now on.
disillusions: $85 isn't even that cheap for an oil change. Plus you have to leave it with them, plus who knows what oil goes in. My oil, my filter: $30. My torque and no drive to their shop: priceless.
ScubaMoto I totally agree. I was always inclined to think that you get what you pay for and therefore I was getting top quality service with the dealership at the price they're charging. If they're applying this much torque just putting on an oil filter - who knows what other shady stuff is going on. I wouldn't be too surprised if they over tightened the oil filter because I declined having them change the two air filters at some ungodly high price. Ugh
I'm so glad you did this video my husband just came back from Toyota and they tried to tell him that this cap was " wearing out and needs replacement". Of course they want $90 for the part but now that I've seen your video I can see that they are the ones that actually broke it because they're the only ones who have ever done any oil changes on it.
That stops today I'm going back to changing the oil myself again.
I just had to deal with this on my uncle's car. It was leaking oil from the drain plug. I got under there and I was able to turn the drain plug out with my fingers. But the filter canister was incredibly tight. I bought the filter tool from AutoZone and it's not as solid is the one used in this video. I used a breaker bar and it bent the tool! With more work a piece of the cap busted off and created a hole before finally coming loose. The last place to change the oil was the dealership and they didn't tighten the drain plug but over tightened the filter! It was Larry Miller Toyota in the Phoenix area.
jorge242: If the dealer was the last to change the oil then at minimum they did so without changing the filter and possibly over-tightened a new filter. Either way, congratulations on finally undoing someone else's mistake and removing it. Now that you're doing the oil/filter changes yourself, you won't need to encounter an over-torqued filter again. Thanks for sharing the great story.
I appreciate your help. The idiots at the dealer over-torque during the 10K service of my Highlander. Crazy situation as I also own a Tacoma as well and never had such of trouble trying to change the oil filter. Sure thing the 27MM socket and my newly purchase power wrench for my wheels and it came off with a couple of attempts. Thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped and congrats on a job well done! Thanks for the comment.
I was trying to change the engine oil for wife's 2013 Prius for the 1st time last weekend. She had been doing it in the dealer. The drain plug went off easily with my 2 ft wrench. The filter was very hard even with the right cap wrench and 2 ft handle bar. I almost gave up before I use my feet to push the wrench bar to get it loose. Similar story on my 2011 Venza. I agree the dealer was trying to stop us from DIY oil changing. Will never do oil change there again.
litong li: Thanks for the comment and congratulations on a job well done. Now that you're doing it yourself, it will never get over-torqued again. Thanks again for the comment and for sharing.
The WORST part of all of this is that the O-ring is installed in what is called a "static radial seal" which achieves full sealing as soon as the o-ring is fully engaged with the mating bore. any further tightening does NOTHING other than seat the housing to prevent it from unscrewing, and the metal tab is insurance against that.
(Unlike a cartridge oil filter which has a static axial seal which relies on enough compression to withstand the oil pressure.)
In an industrial setting I LOVE Static radial seal type oil filters precisely because of the way they work. You can just hand tighten them to get a leak free seal, and then no need for a wrench to change them.
Exactly. As soon as the O-ring is embedded, it's giving all the seal that it ever will. It's pointless to over-tighten it. But my guess is that most cases of over-tightening are the result of shop techs using a pneumatic wrench to install them with speed as the objective. In a fraction of a second, it puts a few hundred ft-lbs of torque on the housing saving the shop tech at least 6.5 seconds on the install. Time has value! The O-ring feels nothing. Never mind the 1.5 hours plus replacement parts it might cost on the next removal. Thanks much for the great comment.
By far one of the worst designed thing I have seen on a car. I'm 38 years doing this. Very stupid. I think they're selling the sockets that break.
mike vonkleist: and a complex design too. Production costs on this filter housing must have been ridiculous compared to simply specking out a standard metal canister filter like most vehicles.
Just went through this with my 2016 corolla. I bought it used from dealership, and they serviced it beforehand. This was my first oil change on it. And unfortunately my electric impact drill is too big to fit into that space. I ended up just changing the oil this time, and was just going to take it to the dealership or a trusted mechanic for the next oil and filter change. But after watching your video, I think I will instead put that money towards a smaller battery-powered impact drill. Thank you!
Before investing in another impact gun, you might want to try a 1/2 drive ratchet with a 27mm socket on the lug of the filter wrench. You can either slip a long extension pipe on a standard ratchet or use a 24-inch cheater bar and see if that works. Again, you want to do this using a 27mm socket on the filter wrench. If you put a 3/8 drive directly into the head of the filter wrench, you might split the filter wrench in half with a stuck filter. It may also help to spray the base of the filter housing generously with penetrating oil where it contacts the engine and let it sit overnight. In my case (this video), impact was a last resort since my pipe extension was just rocking the car on jack stands and that wasn't safe so impact was necessary.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, and so quickly. Yes I hadn't even considered using the 27mm socket and was just inserting the 3/8" ratchet head in the attachment. I will try that with some penetrating oil on the next oil change. I'm doing this all at home with the car driven up on ramps, so I don't have a lot of room to get a cheater bar on, but I will try your recommendations first before getting another impact drill.
Since I already changed the oil and replace it with advanced full synthetic, I was just going to wait until the next oil change to try again. But now I'm wondering if I can just change the filter without draining the oil? I tried searching but I get mixed answers, some say it depends on the vehicle. Do you know if that can be done on the 2016 corolla?
The discovery that I show in video was that the filter was NOT being replaced at the intervals shown on the dealer's maintenance log for the previous owner. It turned out that if I couldn't get it off, there was no reason to think that they could either. And they weren't. Sure enough, it was clear that the filter you see me pull out in the video was in use for A LOT more than one oil change interval. It's impossible to know how many oil changes they did without changing the filter. These filter housings are designed with a pressure bypass so that if the filter reaches a certain "Clog pressure" oil will simply bypass it and not get filtered. The advantage is to sustain oil pressure where you need it. The obvious downside is that all particulates are getting full distribution in the engine over and over.
To answer your question, you would want to drain the oil to replace the filter. To salvage your new oil, you could always clean capture the fresh oil for continued use. It's risky and you would want to pour it in through some filtration. BUT before draining anything, confirm that you can loosen that filter. Good luck with it.
Thank you for showing that box with the correct location of the o-ring!!!!!!!!
I'm glad to help. Thanks for the comment.
Had the same problem on my Tacoma. From my last dealer freebie. Even with the engine warm. I had to bring the engine up to operating temp, and still had to reef on it to get it off. It''ll be interesting to see if it comes off easy next time.
Had a offer from the Toyota for 3 free oil changes. No way was I going to let those retards touch my car and have them put the cap on and torque it to 2,000,000 ft/lbs. Even with it free I wasn't going to drive 2 hours each way. Want to get it done right then I will do it myself.
best advice I have ever listened too. thank you
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for sharing.
I did it as well and finally the filter went out... Thanks!
I'm glad I could help and congrats to you on getting the old one out.
BEST VIDEO IVE EVER WATCHED IN MY LIFE. I LOVE YOU.😁
I'm about to change the oil in my 2019 Prius, this vid really helps, the instant reply was epic!
Mike Subocz: I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
The newest technological innovation in engine oil filtration after 80 years of the canister oil filter which worked well, was easier to service, and cost less.
I'm going to try changing the oil filter on my Toyota Corolla with this oil filter canister. Just got the car back in December of last year. I've never changed the filter. The clip is gone and it was last changed by an indie mechanic. I'm worried that the canister is on really tight. Have the socket tool from Toyota. I'm glad that I saw this excellent video, because now I know what to do if it's over tightened and can't get it off by normal means. Thank you for sharing this knowledge, brother!
audiophile man: I'm glad you liked the video. Since you have the correct wrench, you first try a long-handled wrench (cheater bar). Just be sure the vehicle is well supported so it is safe to do so. If that doesn't work then impact with high torque (like in the video) should get the job done. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto Thanks for the further tip on the cheater bar. I've been working on cars and truck for decades, so I'm sure that I can get it done. Hopefully, it won't be too hard to get it off. Have a good day, sir!👍👍👍
Same story, on my 2021 Highlander, first 2 changes were done by the dealer, next change I purchased my own filter and oil. I nearly broke the plastic housing since it was torqued on so tightly at the dealer ship, I had to purchase the same filter removal tool from Amazon for 15 bucks, the dealer wanted to charge 50 bucks for the same tool. Anyway I purchased a new plastic filter housing, I could still use the old one although it rounded some chips off the plastic. I didn't torque it on super tight like they did so it should come off next time. I hate taking my car to the dealership for service. I'm OCD about my cars, the dealers don't always do the best work. Its easier to get to the filter on the highlander, there is an under cover, but remove it with 2 x 10 MM bolts and one clip and you don't have to remove the 2 clips further back. The filter housing is straight up and down, very easy as long as its not over tightened.
All the dealer certifications in the world won't make them care about your car more than you do. It's good to hear you're willing to take control of maintaining it well. Good job with it. Thanks for sharing.
Best feeling ever when I got mine off, had to use the 600ftlb setting and ended up cracking the filter housing, thank god I bought an extra one
Air Wick: Good job getting it off even busted.
So it's a good thing I bought that wrench with my first oil change. I've never had any issue with it
Steve M: That's great. And since you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-tightened. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Thank You Sir. Doing my Studies BEFORE I help the neighbor. By the looks of what happened there, a quality '6 point' 27mm socket would not chatter so bad and booger up the Filter Wrench Hex.
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped. I didn't yet have one on hand when making the first video, but evidently we agree on the 6-point for impact: ua-cam.com/video/kWWUlyoWFsM/v-deo.html Thanks for the comment and good luck with it.
Thank you so much! After failed breaker bar attempts the 1000 ft lb impact wrench did the trick! Bravo!
I'm glad it helped and congratulations on a job well done! Thanks for the comment.
Yep, I hate the new canisters Toyota went to....the removal tool you show was the first thing I bought after doing my own oil change. (Had the dealer change the oil in my Tundra, once, and they must've used the impact on the canister because that thing was WAY too tight...never letting them do it, again!)
Colorado Boo: Great comment. They just don't realize how much torque an impact wrench can build instantly. It saved them 1.7 seconds of install time and leaves a project for the next removal. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I would let management know that I can no longer trust their mechanics to work on my car.
Nice video, well done. After breaking the tabs off with the stamped (cheapo) version of Toyota tool & and everything else in my tool box. Finally managed to get it off with a pipe wrench + 24" piece of pipe. Of course destroyed the cap in the process and replaced with aftermarket one. 30 minute oil change turned into 3 hour ordeal.
noname mcnoname: I tried it the other way around. My 2-foot cheater bar with a pipe slipped on it was just rocking the car so I decided to try impact. You can see in the video the toll it took, but it finally get the job done with a little patience. Such a brilliant filter housing design . . . I'm glad you finally got yours off. Thanks for watching and for the story.
Do not use aftermarket caps. The cap contains a calibrated spring. Any mishap in here can be catastrophic, as not enough oil can pass if it's too hard, or it won't filter, it it's too loose. Always replace the cap with an original one.
Thank you! Your video was the only video that help me with my oil filter. Showed everything with detail.
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped. Congrats on getting the job done!
Damn just dropped 250 for gun and another 70 bucks for oil housing....tried to save a dolla spend 300..ha ha it worked appreciate your tip.
What people fail to understand about an o ring compared to a gasket is an o ring is a hydraulic seal. You don't need to crank it down so tight. It wouldn't leak anyway. How ironic!
i have serviced a car a few times with this type of filter housing, i found that lubricating the plastic threads with silicone lube and the face of the housing that contacts the housing, will help a lot next time you have to loosen it :)
Martin møller: Thanks for the comment. I just use some fresh oil on the threads and do NOT over-tighten. Then they always come off fine. I'm sure silicone grease would be good also. Thanks again for watching and for the comment.
2011 Camry. I went to do the oil change for the first time and broke the 6 little teeth off using the correct filter wrench. A lot of cussing later I finally managed to get it off after adding and extending pipe to my ratchet. I put it on just snug and haven’t had an issue since
Christopher Simpson: Job well done sir! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Bought an oil wrench hat should have been an exact fit. Broke the oil wrench.
Fantastic video!!! Great editing! All the shots & commentary flow!!!
Chicken Raider.: Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the great comment and for sharing.
You saved the day! We have a new hero. Thank you so much!
You're welcome. Glad I could help.
I hate those filters
Thanks for the video and tips. Like many other's, I couldn't budge the filter cap. Got the proper cap wrench with the extra teeth on the side (I had one that only had the polygonal cap part which was not working). My impact driver did not have enough torque to loosen it, but a 1/2" breaker bar with manual impact from a rubber mallet was enough to break it free. Only minor problem is now the cap wrench won't come off the filter cap. Hopefully it will just stay there permanently and not fall off while driving.
fzumrk2000: Thanks for sharing your experience and congratulations on getting one of these off when it's been over-torqued. The wrench getting stuck on the filter cap is super common. Your impact wrench will be strong enough to get it off. With the filter off the vehicle, set the impact wrench as if tightening the filter (clockwise) and give it a short burst. That usually gets the wrench off quickly. Even if it's on the car, the same method will release it with a burst short enough NOT to torque the filter on at 300 ft-lbs. Then you can easily reset the proper tightness and you're done. I hope that helps.
That must have been the most satisfying thing watching it finally loosen.
Great video, thanks for helping all of us!
Glad it helped. Thanks for sharing.
Have been trying all day to get the oil filter off but like yours it was stuck solid, but also the filter wrench I ordered didn't fit well enough. Never thought of using my power wrench but certainly will once I get the new oil filter wrench. Thanks 👍.
Good choice on getting the right filter wrench. You might want to try a breaker bar with a 27mm socket on the lug of the new filter wrench first before using the impact wrench. My impact wrench did finally work but it's a hostile force on that filter housing. I tried a breaker bar first and it just rocked the car so impact prevailed. Good luck with it.
I GOT THE SAME FREAKING PROBLEM HAD THE LAST TWO OIL CHANGE ON DEALERSHIP NOW I AM DOING IT MYSELF AND FREAKING STUCK AND SPENT OVER 100 CAD BUCKS FOR THE RIGHT CAP THAT DOESN'T BREAK HOLY SHEET! SORRY FOR THE CAP FONTS~ PROS
I work in a shop. Working on a Rav4. Popped the Nut off the socket I bought at Advance Auto. Took it home and Welded it. As it was made out of steel. Next time I was in the store, Associate said she replaced several for the same reason. Look inside a new one, You can see a Tiny weld. Mine is not pretty. But it is definitely stronger.
Nice work!
Show that goddamn filter who's the boss!! God I hate these filters!!😤
Same problem on my prius. I stripped a brand new cap wrench. Completely rounded it on the inside.
Insane
I got a used Toyota sienna and i swear either the dealer ridiculously overtightened it or they never changed the filter just the oil. had to do same thing you did with socket and impact wrench. I found putting some silicone grease on end of filter housing and barely tightening it the thing comes off ok.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, I had hard time removing the oil filter cap. I need to get that tool that you used.
Al to all, careful with the one you buy. The hare different width with different out of width, and it if is too wide, it will hit the side of the engine block.
Thanks for sharing
Same here, I broke one of those filter removers trying to get it off my Corolla, thank you.
Honestly never understood Toyota’s need to make easy things tougher
So they could revolutionize the changing of the oil filter, or the need for 'how to' videos . . . or something. Thanks for the comment.
The guy that did my oil used an impact to put it on. When I tried to take it off it would not budge at all. Hammered a Phillips head screwdriver in one side and out the other. Finally got it off at the expense of having to break it.
Axel 9419: Thanks for the comment. It's a shame that someone else's mistake cost you a filter housing and probably a lot of hassle. But congratulations on getting it off. Now that you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-torqued again. Thanks for watching and for sharing.
I'm definitely gonna use this Method for sure my Aunt Toyota cap is Really stuck on tight But I have a impact with 1200 foot pounds of Torque I'm sure that Bad boy will brake it lose I hope
It has drain plug at least on my Camry you have to on screw first to take off pressure in oil system after that it much easier to on screw filter love this filter less garbage
Aleksey Abramchuk: Thanks for the comment. Opening (unscrewing) the filler plug will help drain the oil but will not help with an over-tightened filter. Thanks for watching.
The 2.5 engine takes a different oil cap removal tool. Also it has a drainplug on the oil filter cap because it's mounted vertically. The 18 ft.lbs. of torque still applies to the filter cap but the drainplug on it only gets 10 ft.lbs. of torque.
Nicely done; plus, short and sweet! Thanks 2012 Prius V owner
Dave: I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment.
THANKS A LOT FOR A GREAT VIDEO, I HAVE SAME PROBLEM TO REPLACE MY OIL FILTER.
GREAT VIDEO , AGAIN THANKS AND GOD BLESS. MIKE
T O: You're welcome! I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment.
Yup had this problem on a 2012 corolla. Good lord it took me an hour to get the damn thing turning. Tried hammering etc but eventually turned it with just pure strength pushing it to dear life lol. I thought I was just weak or something...
i went to a quick lube shop to get yearly inspection, i asked to also get oil change cause it was overdue.
i have a rav4, as i was sitting in my vehicle, i felt the vehicle shake, i look at the camera feed of under my vehicle and this 250 pound man was tightening the shit out of the oil filter.
i am gonna have a heck of a time taking that oil filter off next time it needs oil change.
i usually do the oil change myself, but i didn't have time.
Best oil filter replacement video.
Captain Clark: I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto Just done replacing with lots of swearing while torquing the filter ! Thank you.
Captain Clark: Congratulations on a job well done. And now that you're doing your own oil changes, the filter will never get over-torqued again.
I find this very easy to change my car filter. No matter what type it is, because I always hand tight them never used any tools
Mario V: Absolutely agree, but I'm fairly sure most people dealing with this problem are following an oil change done by a third party who probably used an impact wrench to install the filter. That was the case of the one in the video. it was last serviced at a dealer who installed it with an impact wrench. It's very common. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for posting, I’ve got this same problem!!!!
Luckily I have never had a problem with mine. I don't understand why anyone would over torque, when you tighten it comes to a complete stop, no need to tighten any more. Plus this housing is plastic, no way I would ever use a filter wrench or vice grips ...only use the socket type as in this video. I just have the cheaper metal Walmart version, it has worked well for years.
No need to bang off the socket, when you put the housing back on it will loosen as soon as you reach the full stop tighten position and it will just come right off.
David Houlden that's a good question on why anyone would ever tighten it so much. I've always had my 13' corolla serviced at the dealer up until 108k when I finally decided to do it myself and yes, I ended up breaking the wrench with a cheater bar. I suppose they do it for self protection to avoid any wrongdoing if it were to come off. Oh well, off to Sears tomorrow morning...
I let the dealership change the oil and filter under warranty, they nutted it down so it was almost impossible to get off. That was the last time I let them change the oil
I'm wondering if the dealerships put kids and techs. with little experience in the "quick-lube" area to do oil changes and tire rotations?? I learned how to change oil before I could drive a car.... at the same time learned how to properly use a torque wrench for the drain plug and filter.
Stephen Maurer: That's such a great point. I can relate, it's a good basic maintenance skill. But whether it's a dealership or a fast-lube type place, when a young tech is furnished a nice pneumatic impact driver; and he's paid by the job, the last thing he'll reach for is a torque wrench. Most of them are moving as fast as they can to make as much as they can. So the filter wrench goes on the driver, the filter gets pounded home to 200-300ft-lbs in lightning speed and it's on to the next victim. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I think they have bigfoot doing oil changes...
I did have to use an impact wrench on mine, snapped off the plastic fins but finally was able to get it off. Had to buy another housing tho.
So it's not just me. Had to use my ryobi impact on it. Hope I didn't damage it.
This is a great video that deals with a common problem.
I bought the Motivx oil filter cap removal tool for our 2009 RAV4. I also bought a torque wrench to assure that I don't over-torque it myself. And I bought a 27 mm socket and ½ inch drive breaker bar just in case I need it to remove the oil filter cap.
I don't hate the design. In fact I sort of like it. But that's just me. I'm one of those persons who often prefer to follow the road less traveled... (Looking for a challenge and adventure).
Steven Sevek: Thanks for chiming in. As you know, this video addresses the consequences of a very common installation mistake; using impact to install a Toyota oil filter. Many Techs make this mistake thinking they are saving time. But in a moment of impact, they are generating an exercize of removal for the next oil change. This video was the only case of a filter removal that required such impact to remove. But based on the comments here and elswhere, I am guessing that many have been installed with impact thus creating similar removal difficulties. A long extension pipe slipped over a breaker bar had already failed on the vehicle in this video. I'm confident that the dealer tech who had last installed the filter shown in this video, put it on so tight using impact that they could no longer even get it off. The entire recorded service history was this same dealer. I believe they gave up on changing the filter for subsequent oil changes and that they had been simply changing the oil and no longer replacing the filter. I base that on the condition of the filter cartidge that I finally removed (in this video) and on the degree of difficulty required to remove it even with the 300ft-lb impact driver. It's true that the wrench in this video lost one of the small teeth during the very violent removal required using 300 ft-lbs with impact. But that very same wrench has been more than adequate for many subsequent removals of filters that are not over-torqued. A 27mm socket on a standard length ratchet has easily worked by hand to remove filters that I personally installed with the correct 18 ft-lbs of torque using the same old wrench shown in this video. Actually, the 3/8-inch drive on the wrench usually works fine with a standard ratchet if it hasn't been over tightened. Thanks again for your comment and input.
Thanks for the advice. You saved me a lot of frustration.
Matt Crowley: You're welcome! I'm glad the video helped. Thank you for the comment and congrats on fixing it yourself.
I believed the o ring expanded, I do the oil changed myself and next time around, it’s so damn tight.
Did you put oil on it before setting the housing with a torque wrench?
Well great info. But this sucks for me. I’m in this spot at this very moment. But I don’t have impact tool.
The last shop I went to must have really cranked it down to death.
I'll try to help you get it. Impact was actually my last resort but it did work after all else failed. Leverage is always the best choice to start with. But at minimum, you really do need to have that filter wrench with the cut-outs that is shown in the video. It's the only way you will be able to put the forces necessary on that factory filter housing. The filter housing wrenches are usually available at local parts counters but I've also got links in the video description that are cheap and will get the job done. If you have a couple feet of pipe that can slip over your ratchet handle to get extra leverage that usually works as good as a cheater bar (extended ratchet). I first tried a several foot long piece of pipe and it wouldn't budge. Impact works because it combines the torque of having leverage with the impact force that helps "bump" things loose. That combination is the last resort before destroying the housing for removal and installing a new one. I hope that helps. Good luck with it.
thanks...............JB.
Some dealerships tighten that canister filter too tight 😂
As long as they are not over tightened they are ok. But I still had to spend money on the specialty tool to do a simple oil change. Why? Nothing wrong with the old style. Let’s complicate something simple that worked just fine. Annoying!!!
I just broke my oil filter removal tool on Friday trying to take off a housing that had been last torqued on by the 'Stealership'. the spec is 18Ftlbs for the housing and 10ftlbs for the plug if there is one on the bottom. I notice your filter is on sideways but on my Tundra and my wifes Highlander they are vertically mounted.
Yes the 1.8L engine has a different oil filter cap than the larger engines and takes a different tool. The larger ones have a drain plug cause they are mounted vertically.
I tried again today to remove the oil filter housing with steel oil filter wrench connected to an impact wrench. The nut welded on to the oil filter wrench broke off while the oil filter housing didn't budge one bit.
I've only heard of a few cases that were even worse than the one in the video but yours sounds pretty bad. First things first, this is going to take some time, so please secure alternate transport for a day or so and allow yourself to take the time needed for this job. Before trying impact again with a new forged or cast filter wrench, you'll need penetrating oil like Liquid Wrench. EDIT: Forged steel and cast aluminum wrenches are one-piece, where some steel ones have a seam at the lug that may separate. The wrenches all have yield points beyond which they'll break. Using a 27mm socket over the lug rather than the 3/8" drive will reduce the risk of breaking the wrench. Let it sit overnight (Yep, 24 hours) with penetrating oil sprayed generously on the contact between the housing and the engine. Come back in a few hours and spray it again with penetrating oil. It's bound to the engine at the base surface of the filter housing. After soaking OVERNIGHT with penetrating oil; first try a breaker bar, then try a breaker bar with a pipe slipped on it. Then move onto the impact wrench. Always using a socket and NOT the 3/8" drive port. I hope that helps. Side note: Then talk to whoever installed the last filter and have a conversation about how the install torque setting is only 18 ft-lbs (hand tight).
Yah I’m having the same problem will be using my impact gun tomorrow
Where you able to remove it ? And did you use the same housing ? Because that’s what I’m afraid of to remove it and the threads won’t be any good anymore then I would have to get another one!