Sunny Hostin Accuses Black Guest Of Being A 'Pawn'

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  • The View's Sunny Hostin really had an issue with Coleman Hughes. Ana Kasparian discusses on The Young Turks. | Your Support is Crucial to the Show: go.tyt.com/jointoday
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    "Things turned a bit tense on The View when Sunny Hostin asked guest Coleman Hughes about being a “pawn of the right,” only to immediately have a co-host push back on her.
    Hughes joined The View on Wednesday to promote his book, The End of Race Politics, in which he argues for a “colorblind approach to politics and culture.” Hughes also hosts a podcast called Conversations and is an analyst for CNN."
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 8 тис.

  • @Davechappelle445
    @Davechappelle445 Місяць тому +37

    He absolutely destroyed her. Let’s call a spade a spade

    • @jasonbabilonia3037
      @jasonbabilonia3037 Місяць тому +10

      With class and grace and good ideas.

    • @Lilymay2017
      @Lilymay2017 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed!

    • @robertwright4220
      @robertwright4220 Місяць тому +1

      He didn’t destroy anyone! Hughes has no business even speaking on these topics in public. His opinions, which are all they are, are irrelevant. I believe he’s an immigrant. One of the many failures of the US education system is our reckoning of history.
      Just as she may be inaccurate on some details of history so is he. Difference is her premises are correct his isn’t. 250 years of arguably the worst slavery system in human history, a bloody and violent reconstruction, almost a century of debt peonage, dozens and f thriving black communities destroyed, thousands of lynchings, tens of millions of black farmland destroyed, Jim Crow, Co-intelPro….
      I could literally go on and most of the atrocities I mentioned happened well after slavery! But according to Hughes, and it’s not his idea by the way, a rising tide lifts all boats…., which is a foolish idea for many reasons.

    • @CarlNipmuc
      @CarlNipmuc 26 днів тому +1

      @@robertwright4220 Their entire premise that someone is destroyed in a conversation reveals their emotional maturity level or more accurately, lack thereof.
      They don't know that the goal of every adult led conversation is to resolve issues. Emotionally immature people believe the goal is to "destroy" the other person which is why they are so ineffective in reaching their stated goals. They want Blacks to vote their way but believe "destroying" (gaslighing) our take on our own lived experiences is the best way to do that.
      The only real problem after knowing that is, why do we keep engaging with them when we know they don't want to get it?

    • @robertwright4220
      @robertwright4220 26 днів тому +1

      @@CarlNipmuc Your points are well stated and accurate…! In social media, there’s this other trend of ascribing emotion in a way that attempts to deflect from the content of one’s argument while diminishing the individual, a form of ad hominem. “Why you mad 😡….”
      As if to say, to simply express emotion about something or even anger is of itself something to be ashamed of. Even worse are the times when said emotion is applied where it doesn’t exist. It’s like them calling us victims by merely stating facts. I’m in a better position than most, but I worked hard to get here and I can argue that I would be better off if I were a white male. Traits that make people uncomfortable would be praised if I were white….
      My point is, we must push against the narrative! People get frustrated in debates, discussions, and arguments because they go in unprepared! I’ve done the research, sat with the issues and thought through them objectively.
      Therefore, I can easily dismantle people like Hughes while also recognizing the truths and inaccuracies or inconsistencies in his opponents argument. Objectivity, is somewhat of a super power with me at this point. I take certain positions and continue to maintain them based on the data and reality of what consistently presents itself. That’s why we engage my friend….

  • @Pmoe73
    @Pmoe73 Місяць тому +84

    Racism and classism is a huge problem in the world as a whole

    • @youtubepolitics5789
      @youtubepolitics5789 Місяць тому +3

      Classism is not a form of discrimination - Civil Right policy seeks to administer and rectify inequities based on the injustices made by discrimination.

    • @renaemack9555
      @renaemack9555 Місяць тому

      You are right! But it can’t be solved until racism is dealt with. They keep trying to get pass it without dealing with it.

    • @synchronium24
      @synchronium24 Місяць тому +7

      @@youtubepolitics5789 "Classism is not a form of discrimination"
      Do you mean legally? In moral terms, I would strongly disagree.

    • @mern2974
      @mern2974 Місяць тому +3

      Classism is necessary you can't be friends with everyone. This is based on values ambition and morality. A lot of lower class people are not interested in education or any type of real virtue.

    • @italiannn16
      @italiannn16 Місяць тому

      No. People who complain about everything are the problem, especially the weak men. Everyone in the world has challenges. Who cares. Get over it and be a man already.

  • @ladyk7675
    @ladyk7675 Місяць тому +24

    I am a Black person and I can’t stand Sunny. She always acts like she speaks for Black people she definitely does not speak for me. It is this young man’s RIGHT as a human being to believe what he wants to believe. I don’t have to agree with everything he says because I have my own opinion about things.

    • @CarlNipmuc
      @CarlNipmuc Місяць тому +2

      I seriously doubt you're a Black person. Most Black people don't announce their Blackness before making an anti-Black statement. They simply let the syntax speak for itself. I doubt you know what i even mean.
      I am neither an idol worshiper nor a hater so I don't base my opinions on who I like or don't like or "can't stand". Nonetheless, you condemn her for her opinion while lecturing her about allowing others to have their own opinions...do you see how you're being hypocritical here?
      Having said that she was 100% correct in saying that "many in the Black community" view folks like Coleman and Candace as sell outs.
      Sunni wasn't speaking FOR the Black community. She was speaking IN AGREEMENT with the Black community.

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier 27 днів тому +1

      Coleman is right

    • @CarlNipmuc
      @CarlNipmuc 26 днів тому +2

      @@Flashyfinancier A right winger

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier 26 днів тому +1

      @@CarlNipmuc shut up

    • @CarlNipmuc
      @CarlNipmuc 26 днів тому +2

      @@Flashyfinancier No

  • @evepane2925
    @evepane2925 Місяць тому +24

    Sunny is a nauseating humam being. She overestimates her importance in this genre. That young man handled himself like an intelligent, experience, author. She tried to take him down but he stood his ground and handed out the knowledge.
    I want Sunny to debate TYTs Sonny and Anna. They would rip her to shreds.

    • @robertwright4220
      @robertwright4220 Місяць тому

      The only mistake she may have made is alleging he’s a paid shill for republicans! Unless you have facts of something you can’t allow that to become the primary argument. Hughes doesn’t know what he’s talking about! You all don’t really know history.

  • @executivecars7695
    @executivecars7695 Місяць тому +35

    It’s amazing to see Anna be brave enough to speak the truth, sonny is a disgrace

    • @robertwright4220
      @robertwright4220 Місяць тому

      Anna is a disgrace! I’m tired of people who aren’t even from this country feeling emboldened to speak publicly about what black descendants of slaves are owed! It’s insulting…. You all clearly don’t understand history, its nuance and how to place events in their proper context.

  • @MBP208
    @MBP208 Місяць тому +19

    “I know his daughter” lmaooooo

    • @joeszymanski3540
      @joeszymanski3540 Місяць тому +3

      😂😂 Right! Like that made her ridiculous comments credible.

    • @user-rc3pk4xy6r
      @user-rc3pk4xy6r Місяць тому +4

      It’s a ridiculous appeal to authority.

  • @PoliticalRed
    @PoliticalRed Місяць тому +19

    Well Sunny knows Dr. King’s daughter so of course she is right

    • @MuscleRicanNYC
      @MuscleRicanNYC Місяць тому

      ❤❤❤yup- SHE IS TOTALLY ON-POINT !

    • @uocana1
      @uocana1 Місяць тому +3

      Lmao 😭..I caught the sarcasm

  • @chelok7805
    @chelok7805 Місяць тому +9

    Even The View audience were on Coleman’s side. When you lost your audience, you know that your time is over.

  • @jamesbey8779
    @jamesbey8779 Місяць тому +13

    Mlk jr said THIS CAMPAIGN WE COMING TO GET OUR CHECK! He was pushing for REPARATIONS FIRST! Yall are the sneaky foxes Malcolm X warned us about!!!

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +1

      So, you ignored the very next thing he said... and just stormed away in your emotional rampage... How ever so stereotypical.

    • @jamesbey8779
      @jamesbey8779 Місяць тому +2

      @adampike3834 No I FOCUSED on the thing he said. That liberals and conservatives seem to always leave out. We'll Black Americans from California to N.Y. focused on Reparations and Deportations!

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +1

      @@jamesbey8779 What was the very next thing MLK said about the form reparations should take?
      Look, we get it, you're emotional and full of rage, but if you don't base this emotion on reality then you only look ridiculous.

    • @jamesbey8779
      @jamesbey8779 Місяць тому

      @adampike3834
      This isn't about emotions, you coward hiding behind a avatar! This is about JUSTICE!!! Take your reverse psychology and gas lighting @$$ elsewhere. REPARATIONS is the #1 Priority of the GRASSROOTS Black American political movement. Everything else is a DISTRACTION! ua-cam.com/video/pLV5y4utPKI/v-deo.htmlsi=ZmPXhlXUVLfhZtCD

    • @TalkinnGrubbinMedia
      @TalkinnGrubbinMedia Місяць тому +1

      @@adampike3834 Dr. King was talking about reparations in the form of money, cash payments💰.

  • @TashaeJackson
    @TashaeJackson Місяць тому +11

    I disagree a lot with Ana on her preferred policies...but I've always liked her because I feel she is not only authentic, but thoughtful in how she arrives at what she believes would be good for this country. I miss the days when political discourse was respectful and not personal.

  • @yukonjack8103
    @yukonjack8103 9 днів тому +5

    Coleman's intellectual honesty and robustness eclipses the partisan shallowness of The View.

  • @vinnym5607
    @vinnym5607 Місяць тому +6

    Of course Ana is a Coleman fan. She's aiming for that Daily Wire money.

  • @Zen-vb4ol
    @Zen-vb4ol Місяць тому +20

    When does Ana write a book called "Gender Blind". Where she tries to fix gender issues in this country by economics or some other means with out bringing up gender?. When does someone write a book called "Sexual preference Blind"? . Where someone from the LGBTQ community tries to fix what they consider as sexual preference issues thru some other means without mentioning their sexual preference.

    • @Dponthedl
      @Dponthedl Місяць тому +2

      Awesome point lol 🤣

    • @Grimloxz
      @Grimloxz Місяць тому +2

      Well done here. Dope.

    • @mxsxc_
      @mxsxc_ Місяць тому +1

      Love this

    • @troywaters943
      @troywaters943 Місяць тому

      She's not blind she's racist

  • @barrymarcus754
    @barrymarcus754 Місяць тому +10

    Sunny is not a woman of color she white and Puerto Rican!

    • @LeemWills
      @LeemWills Місяць тому +1

      Exactly

    • @user-gn3fv4rl5w
      @user-gn3fv4rl5w Місяць тому

      Haha you’re laughable. Do your research

    • @Fersch13
      @Fersch13 Місяць тому +3

      @@user-gn3fv4rl5w like her ancestors being slave owners?

  • @LS-im2qz
    @LS-im2qz Місяць тому +6

    Sunny has her opinion, Coleman has his. So, Ana has her opinion too. I also have an opinion. Coleman suggests the help goes to disadvantaged people regardless of race, Sunny wants it to go to minorities (regardless of how rich they are?, not sure about how that works). This was an interview, and he answered politely. The fact that it is so difficult to focus on the subject (how to help disadvantaged ?) without calling people racist, sellouts, and whatever... is actually the point Coleman is making: keep arguments on the subject and not on the people. It is amazing how the comments point to the personalities of Coleman, Ana, Sunny... it doesn't matter what Sunny or Coleman did in their life, or what "some people" say.

  • @tcorourke2007
    @tcorourke2007 Місяць тому +7

    Yeah, but then she immediately called him a charlatan ("of sorts,") which is at direct odds with the claim he's a pawn, she's just too stupid to realize it.

  • @IonizedComa
    @IonizedComa Місяць тому +8

    Sunny: many black people think you're a pawn
    Translation: i think you're a pawn

    • @ausarel
      @ausarel Місяць тому

      No we actually know he is a pawn in the blacc community and he’s not blacc it’s like an Italian pretending to be polish.

  • @andrewrubio2047
    @andrewrubio2047 Місяць тому +16

    ana spittin facts

    • @real.mir_
      @real.mir_ Місяць тому +1

      No, she’s not

  • @djeezee7798
    @djeezee7798 Місяць тому +7

    I understand what he's saying however it's extremely unrealistic.
    Everyone remembers and brings up..I have a dream.
    But they ignore him saying he believes he integrated his people into a burning house.
    If he's truly believes in this colorblindness theory.
    Take himself that theory and his book to a white nationalist or Klan rally and see how well it's received.
    People love to preach to the black community to back off of their stance. Yet allow the opposition to push their stance at will.
    Black Panthers..nation of Islam ..targeted and eliminated.
    White nationalist and Klan..part of the us government.

  • @michaelsmith6404
    @michaelsmith6404 Місяць тому +7

    She’s not lying

  • @deltatriples
    @deltatriples Місяць тому +41

    Ana ignores that poor rural whites will gladly vote against these "socio economic policies", because it in large part will help poc's of similar economic situations. Just last year Missouri rejected federal food that would have helped children of all races with similar poor economic situations continue to get the food they had while in school. We continue to see home appraisals be different for the same house when it appears it's owned by blacks and not whites. Sunny is trying to point out that even when things are the same, there is still a race based bias and to ignore it is being willfully obtuse.

    • @USMC-cv5sd
      @USMC-cv5sd Місяць тому +6

      You just made an excellent comment, and I generally like Coleman.

    • @free2express08
      @free2express08 Місяць тому

      OMG Thank you for saying it! Poor white people will vote against their own socio economic interest, for the sake of race. Hence Donald Trump supporters. Obama left office and they thought this rich white man had their social economic interest in mind? No, a rich white man lied to them and they fell for it. Did Trump not also say the central park 5 were guilty even thought they were found innocent? How many black people were treated the same? And more on race being a factor of black Americans' social economic welfare, just look at how many ways race has affected our justice system for black Americans. Arrests and indictments, bail, guilty pleas, can't afford a lawyer, legal sympathy, convictions affecting future jobs or even home opportunities. That all impacts generational wealth.

    • @felixrodriguez-rivera1787
      @felixrodriguez-rivera1787 Місяць тому +2

      Bingo!

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Місяць тому +5

      "poor rural whites will gladly vote against these "socio economic policies", because it in large part will help poc's of similar economic situations"
      I would like a source for that because your next example did not have anything to do with racial prejudice but economic policy

    • @kareem8250
      @kareem8250 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@jesusbarrera6916if you need an example. You should go read the color of law. Plenty of examples in there.

  • @AdamBetweentheLines
    @AdamBetweentheLines Місяць тому +10

    Coleman is a hero, smarter than all in that room combined. Listening to his brilliant podcast from the beginning, I’m very happy for his great, great feedback on his appearance on the view.

    • @helpusall5987
      @helpusall5987 Місяць тому +2

      I see this same comment under Thomas So we'll videos from people who will swear up and down that any black person who is willing to denounce the gravities of racial inequality, or who will downplay the responsibility of our government to fulfill their promise of reparations, directly to AAs for our ancestors, is somehow a brilliant gem of a genius; our national treasure; a real hero. Y'all love y'all some early MLK quotes, but won't quote what got him deleted. Y'all are sheer.

    • @AdamBetweentheLines
      @AdamBetweentheLines Місяць тому

      @@helpusall5987 I can afford to be more straight forward than Coleman as I’m just a commenter. The way how I see it is that it’s you who is the r@cist.

    • @helpusall5987
      @helpusall5987 Місяць тому +1

      @@AdamBetweentheLines I bet you do.

    • @AdamBetweentheLines
      @AdamBetweentheLines Місяць тому

      @@helpusall5987 I do. There are two ways to play socialism, based on socio-economic status like the lefties do, or based or r@ce like the n@zis did. These are your options. Think a little.

    • @helpusall5987
      @helpusall5987 Місяць тому

      @@AdamBetweentheLines Rereading my comment to you, and your response, it's clear that you are fos. I never called you a racist. Which is a hint to me that you might have already been called a racist so often that you respond immediately by transferring that accusation onto your accusers - a child's slight of hand. Maybe you should deeply reflect on the stances you have taken in life. Maybe they are more racially divisive than you are ready to recognize.
      Lastly, in America the ability to progress is already based mostly on your socio-economic status. Socio-economics heavily favors one group of Americans (WAs) bc that group has long benefitted from biased socio-economic laws, unwritten codes of ethics, AND race-based incentives: all created to hinder other groups (like BAs). So what he's calling for is not some brilliant, ground-breaking, leveling of the playing field. It's a call to stick to the script. Something that sounds great to a Nazi.

  • @chasereynolds7268
    @chasereynolds7268 Місяць тому +7

    He is not black though.

  • @richardellis8076
    @richardellis8076 Місяць тому +8

    If he read Dr. Kings writings, he clearly missed the point. How can you be against reparations for black Americans?
    Addressing all poverty is the goal, but when you dont force white lawmakers to also focus on non white people who have been disproportionately targeted, we have seen how that turns out. It gives them an excuse to avoid making up for hundreds of years of racist policies.

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier Місяць тому +4

      Shut up. You are lazy. Go to work

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +5

      and what form of reparations did MLK say he wanted? come on buddy, if you read his book you'd know.

  • @dirtyenergywar7029
    @dirtyenergywar7029 Місяць тому +17

    "I will NOT be voting for Biden after his response to Israel"...
    But THIS guys "thoughtful"?
    Um, I don't think so, Ana...

    • @adamlynch6954
      @adamlynch6954 Місяць тому

      Yeah she complains endlessly about "identity politics" then turns around and uses her Armenian identity as to why she won't support the president... She's a clown

  • @GO-GO_SO-SO
    @GO-GO_SO-SO Місяць тому +69

    I saw that View episode. I agree with Hughes when he said back in 2013 it wasn't Obama's fault for the increase in prejudice, but I disagree when he said it wasn't Trump's fault. Trump was one of the main people pushing the idea that Obama wasn't born in America, and Conservatives were losing their minds over Obama winning.

    • @PresidentByNameOnly
      @PresidentByNameOnly Місяць тому +16

      You my friend, made the most obvious observation anyone could have made. I'm disappointed to admit that Ana has revealed herself to either be an idiot or a grifter.

    • @kiroolioneaver8532
      @kiroolioneaver8532 Місяць тому +7

      Trump has made it okay for people to say in public things that social norms and mores dictated the would've kept to themselves (this is particularly true for the impressionable youth that grew up under his as prez).

    • @jmfia2391
      @jmfia2391 Місяць тому

      It wasn't Trump

    • @janedoe1254
      @janedoe1254 Місяць тому

      @@PresidentByNameOnly more like a white woman who doesn’t want to acknowledge her own bias

    • @barrythompson7336
      @barrythompson7336 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@PresidentByNameOnlyI think Anna is just ignorant (meaning not knowing) to the black experience in America and has no interest in learning.

  • @scribe712
    @scribe712 Місяць тому +6

    Sunny clearly stated "many in the Black community" consider him to be a pawn. She never stated SHE considers him to be one.

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +4

      Just like whenever an outlet writes a smear piece they say "accused of being".

    • @igloozoo3771
      @igloozoo3771 Місяць тому

      Why does Slave Owners get to speak for the Black Community?

  • @cedricroney1475
    @cedricroney1475 Місяць тому +4

    Its not just about being poor. Its the legacy of exclusion that blacks face. The American black has a specific claim for reparations. We can also talk about class issues but not at the expense of blacks specific claim. We have had enough of having to include everyone in on our issues.

  • @KimontheWeb
    @KimontheWeb Місяць тому +9

    Color blind economic policies would be an ideal approach if it was an even playing field to begin with but because it's largely out of balance due to America being built on slavery, disenfranchisement, systemic racism and ws then reparations to American descendants of slaves first and then we can be color blind with our policies all day long - level the playing field first so we can all grow at the same rate together.

    • @extremeresponsibility4325
      @extremeresponsibility4325 Місяць тому +1

      So, how do you justify giving rich brown people advantages over others instead of focusing on merit or economics?
      For example rich Indians getting million dollar government contracts under the 8a program.

    • @r.walker7986
      @r.walker7986 Місяць тому

      @@extremeresponsibility4325 If the goal is to increase the numbers of blacks or people of color in institutions of higher learning, their income does not matter. No one has an issue when black and white athletes get full rides to play sports and they come from money... They can give some people a hand due to their economic situation, and as far as giving black extra points for being black to get into institutions, that's not totally necessary because there are plenty of POC and blacks who meet the qualifications, they just have to find them in the pile... Diversity is valuable, and by diversity i mean race, socioeconomic, and culturally. Many of us live in segregated communities and our children are often segregated by default in the lower graders so in the collegiate level they kind of need to get experience dealing with other kinds of people and other perspectives.

    • @paulpalmer5123
      @paulpalmer5123 Місяць тому

      To lift classes up as a whole would help Blacks and Hispanics disproportionally without leave poor white people out of the mix. This was the politics of MLK.

    • @ktownc936
      @ktownc936 Місяць тому +1

      How do we level the playing field? Everyone is a descendant of a slave at some point in history. How far do we reach back.

    • @KimontheWeb
      @KimontheWeb Місяць тому +2

      @@ktownc936 Everyone is not a descendent of slaves there are slaves and then there are indentured servants there is a difference.

  • @melissademarco5271
    @melissademarco5271 Місяць тому +19

    Sonny is an insufferable gatekeeper. Her hostile stance towards this intelligent forward thinking young man was not only cringeworthy but so so disrespectful. I was disappointed that the other so-called ladies failed to call her out for her rude comments and behavior. 🤮👎

    • @dillon4060
      @dillon4060 Місяць тому +1

      It's really all she's capable of. Just not that bright.

    • @RareWarRoses
      @RareWarRoses Місяць тому

      She can't really gate keep if her ancestor owned slaved.

    • @ghostman3344
      @ghostman3344 Місяць тому

      Stfu....You sound like a Trumper...Another bigot not worth a 2 dead flies...

  • @Shawnowen23
    @Shawnowen23 Місяць тому +5

    The reality is that they are both right, two things can be right at the same time. But what I think Sunny is trying to express is that the poverty in the African American community has been systematic, beginning with slavery and continuing with Jim Crow. So it should be addressed with a separate bill and while working on other bills.

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +1

      Which ended in 1965... It has been addressed, you can't blame them now.

  • @mmoye8640
    @mmoye8640 Місяць тому +4

    I don't think she dismissed him. I think she asked questions about his beliefs and about what others have said about him. I appreciate the push back. It is refreshing when there is a debate on views on a national show. We usually see interviews like Candice Owen on the Breakfast Club with no push back at all.

  • @amareu3133
    @amareu3133 Місяць тому +30

    The problem with advocating for color blind policies to uplift the poor is the US has a history of cutting Black people out on the basis of race. For reference see the GI Bill and New Deal era policies like social security, and FHA home loans.

    • @Mont3000
      @Mont3000 Місяць тому

      Exactly, it's always for blacks then ends up being everybody except blacks
      This clown Coleman is a plant, been for years now.
      ua-cam.com/users/shorts-xR_YMwG3bc?si=qa_WDD7h95tuYMEZ

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier Місяць тому +4

      Stop being a victim

    • @rainbeauxunicorn5237
      @rainbeauxunicorn5237 Місяць тому +7

      @@Flashyfinancier …stop victimizing us.

    • @rainbeauxunicorn5237
      @rainbeauxunicorn5237 Місяць тому +7

      Exactly.

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier Місяць тому +1

      @@rainbeauxunicorn5237 shut up

  • @andrewhoward1878
    @andrewhoward1878 Місяць тому +41

    It is intellectually dishonest to say that race isn't a factor when it comes to racial disparities. To try to solve everything with economic policy isn't the solution. White southerners rejected The New Deal in the 1930s BECAUSE it was designed to help everyone, INCLUDING black people. Most race riots in the late nineteenth century and early twentieth century were due to white anger towards black economic progress. I live in Birmingham, Alabama. From 1949 to 1965, an area of the city where prominent and successful black people lived was called Dynamite Hill. Ya know why? Because, white people were exploding black people's houses because they didn't believe that black people should have nice houses. Addressing economics alone doesn't solve all of society's problems, particularly race. Because, it doesn't matter how much money someone has, if your class system is based on race, racism will continue to persist until it is addressed directly.

    • @mymiphone1841
      @mymiphone1841 Місяць тому +7

      Do you really expect Ana, a rich privileged white lady, to understand that?

    • @andrewhoward1878
      @andrewhoward1878 Місяць тому +7

      @@mymiphone1841 For as much as she professes to be a progressive and for as long as she has covered these types of issues, she should know better. At this point, Ana is guilty of willful ignorance, which is nothing more than an avoidance of accountability and doing what needs to be done to make things right. Because, it would require giving up some of her privilege which she has come to enjoy immensely.

    • @roxyfoxyyy7
      @roxyfoxyyy7 Місяць тому +2

      Tell that to the poor White people in Appalachia. 🙄They have been forgotten by both Republicans and Democrats.

    • @Tmack034
      @Tmack034 Місяць тому +11

      @@andrewhoward1878 she's getting ridiculous with her ignorance and 1st grade knowledge of MLK. In the video Coleman and Sonny were arguing regarding what MLK actually said. A perfect opportunity as a journalist to research and provide the audience with the full context. Ana instead talks about Sonny's clothes and completely dodges that part... because Sonny was right regarding the historical average economic disparity amongst blacks and Hispanics compared to white people in this country. And by admitting that the whole it's only a class issue falls apart.

    • @andrewhoward1878
      @andrewhoward1878 Місяць тому +7

      @@roxyfoxyyy7 OK. However, if you still help the poor in Appalachia, that doesn't put an end to racially biased police brutality, close the racial wealth gap, address racial health disparities, disproportionate convictions and the sentencing of black people, particularly black men in the courts as opposed to white men who have been charged with the same crime, voter suppression, gerrymandering, the attack on programs that focus on educating students about diverse groups and hiring practices that are designed to ensure opportunities for people from diverse backgrounds. Those issues will still exist.
      Pretending that they don't doesn't make them go away. To assume such is a disservice to people like me who have to face unnecessary obstacles everyday.

  • @caribja
    @caribja Місяць тому +7

    The title is misleading as Sunny Boston did say "some in the black community have accused you of being a pawn".
    I don't think that Sunny Hostin was hostile to Coleman Hughes. They just have different perspectives and I enjoyed the exchange.
    I think that broadening the discourse to include class is a valid point.

    • @jmase19
      @jmase19 Місяць тому +4

      She’s not hostile towards him but the subject he was bringing up bc it directly targets the delusion she promotes

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +2

      Then you clearly haven't been paying the slightest bit of attention to the media for the past 40 years... It's ALWAYS "some people say" to avoid any accountability.

    • @caribja
      @caribja Місяць тому

      ​@@adampike3834no matter how you spin it, it is still a misleading title.

    • @caribja
      @caribja Місяць тому

      ​@@jmase19 I don't think that Sunny is delusional. She just has a different perspective to Coleman's.

  • @joshuahd1719
    @joshuahd1719 Місяць тому +5

    You're witnessing Malcolm X theory of Liberals and Conservatives being played out in real time.

    • @yvonneplant9434
      @yvonneplant9434 Місяць тому +2

      Sunny didn't start with money. Effing Ana doesn't remember that.

    • @Rin22730
      @Rin22730 Місяць тому

      ​@@yvonneplant9434and? She's proof then that colour isn't what holds people back, it's class

  • @lorigravelin2081
    @lorigravelin2081 Місяць тому +19

    You sound so petty and immature by bringing up her clothes. Would you agree with her if she was wearing your Walmart sweater? She’s a woman of a particular age who worked at a career, her husband is also a well off surgeon. It sounds kinda racist of you to act as if she’s not allowed to dare to wear a high class brand of clothing. I’ve always thought y’all were fair and usually open minded, lately y’all getting as bad as Trump and his cult followers.

    • @bornaries7213
      @bornaries7213 Місяць тому +1

      #trump2024🇺🇸

    • @leanhankins7749
      @leanhankins7749 Місяць тому

      That would make her a very racist person if she didn't have it then I (Ana) will have it smfh (FTB)

    • @bang0utsc725
      @bang0utsc725 Місяць тому

      Blacks for trump

    • @leanhankins7749
      @leanhankins7749 Місяць тому

      @@bang0utsc725 N word for Trump its a different from black people 🤡

  • @MrGgabber
    @MrGgabber Місяць тому +14

    If you dont have an argument, just accuse the opponent of being right wing

  • @Space_Cakes94
    @Space_Cakes94 Місяць тому +6

    Name one thing black leople or women can't legally do that a white man can in the US. Are there penalties for companies not hiring enough white men? Are there scholarships specifically for being a white man?

    • @killed_by_the_architect-829
      @killed_by_the_architect-829 Місяць тому +2

      It can be easily argued that post George Floyd there is far more blacks can do and get away with than a white person can. The cry racism card is the free pass to do whatever they want.

    • @CarlNipmuc
      @CarlNipmuc 26 днів тому +1

      Answers:
      1. One (of the many things) is not being talked about and referred to in monolithic terms. "Black on black" crime is a perfect example of this slur.
      2. Hiring quotas, while definitely not designed to fix the problem, were originated to address the UNOFFICIAL affirmative action for white men who in many instances, were foreman and supervisors over men who outranked them in every category except their skin wasn't the right color. We know this to be true because whites were openly racist towards blacks and would literally state this as their reasons.
      3. Yes its called legacy admissions. See after the 1960's, whites could not openly discriminate without consequence so they began using code language to hide their racial bigotry. Whites only signs were replaced with "privacy" signs and "legacy admissions" were used instead of "this is a white school"

    • @Space_Cakes94
      @Space_Cakes94 26 днів тому

      @CarlNipmuc Those are all old examples and have since been rectified. You can't be mad at an actual statistic that a minority of the population is committing the most crime. We've had a black president, and I don't know what position is higher than that here in America. There is nothing a black person can't do that a white person can. Get over the grift.

  • @geoffreyselvage1673
    @geoffreyselvage1673 Місяць тому +6

    Sorry Anna, you're wrong. If you like him then you can have him. As a Black man who is twice your age I've him before (in others) and I know where this leads. I'll wait ....

  • @Tmack034
    @Tmack034 Місяць тому +33

    @6:06 and at this exact moment Ana exposes how bad faith of a journalist she really is in this story. Sunny and Coleman had a debate on what MLK said. If Ana and her minions.. I mean team did some research she could tell the audience who was factually correct in what MLK said or at least enlighten the audience with a fuller context. But instead she uses an ad hominem attack to diss Sunny. I could do the same Ana "Why are you're talking about Black and Hispanic issues when you're white" See how that works and how dumb doing that is?

    • @josephinabracero1243
      @josephinabracero1243 Місяць тому

      Anna is Spanish..thats what she said..LOL

    • @Halberstramshaberdashery
      @Halberstramshaberdashery Місяць тому +1

      Ad hominem attack? Sunny doesn’t seem to favor class based policies. Ana just points out the fact that Sunny is saying this while wearing a Gucci button down shirt and Gucci belt which signals a high class financial status to anyone who’s heard of Gucci. Otherwise Sunny is saying “I have a lot of money and don’t want policies that help people without a lot of money.” It’s totally relevant to the conversation!

    • @josephinabracero1243
      @josephinabracero1243 Місяць тому

      @@Halberstramshaberdashery LOOK IT UP sunny came from poverty and WORKED hard to get to wear Gucci and still UNDERSTANDS POVERTY..don't JUDGE a book by its GUCCI PIN cover..AMERICA VOTE BLUE save AMERICA from pandering criminals.. VOTE BIDEN 2024..

    • @matrixanalytica1089
      @matrixanalytica1089 Місяць тому +4

      @@Halberstramshaberdashery You guys are misconstruing Sunnys' position...she is not against helping poor people. This is not at all what she said and is not the point she is making. If more schools taught Black history, maybe you would understand her point better.

    • @matrixanalytica1089
      @matrixanalytica1089 Місяць тому +3

      I agree, Tmack. Well said. She seems to have a bone to pick with Sunny...likely because Ana is 'progressive' and Sunny is a wealthy liberal democrat.

  • @andrewdavis6428
    @andrewdavis6428 Місяць тому +11

    He is like you Ana confusing.🇯🇲

  • @yvonneplant9434
    @yvonneplant9434 Місяць тому +5

    This guy won't impact any policy anywhere that matters.

  • @heatherlittle3362
    @heatherlittle3362 Місяць тому +32

    Or maybe do both? Why this false dichotomy? I don’t know anyone saying white poor people shouldn’t be helped as well. And you can do that without being “colorblind”. I am a poor white woman raising a white autistic daughter with intellectual disability, epilepsy, and a tumor disorder. We have challenges my Black male partner with a good job doesn’t have, but to be “blind” to struggles he faces as a Black man because he makes more money than me is insane. This false dichotomy you’re creating is the real problem.

    • @JohnSmith-to5ow
      @JohnSmith-to5ow Місяць тому +5

      I think his approach is a response to the way politics is. How democrats are "left" about race at election time to get the minority votes, and almost never left on socioeconomic issues. It all ends up being a game of smoke and mirrors. If they were actually left on socioeconomic issues, then everyone benefits and that is a tangible improvement.

    • @mornediablo7819
      @mornediablo7819 Місяць тому

      Great point but unlike you ana being a white woman doesnt understand the difference and is ignorant to the way she sees the world

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +2

      *" I don’t know anyone saying white poor people shouldn’t be helped as well."* Well there some but yes, the majority aren't saying that specifically. Every solution solution however apart from a class based approached completely ignores them.

    • @kimvaughn9838
      @kimvaughn9838 Місяць тому +4

      I know a lot of poor white people that I work with get positions because they know white people in high positions. Your race helps you no matter your degree of intelligence

    • @heatherlittle3362
      @heatherlittle3362 Місяць тому +1

      @@adampike3834 yes, and yet a class based approach still doesn’t help the fact that my son is more likely to be pulled over by a cop because of the color of his skin. So, that’s why I said both are needed. But of course establishment dems don’t want to discuss class bc of the class they’re in. Racism is still a problem but solutions to racism don’t hit them as hard personally, whereas taxing the wealthy does.

  • @free2express08
    @free2express08 Місяць тому +27

    The topic of slavery, the civil war, and the civil rights movement had a huge impact on the socio economic welfare of black Americans. You cannot have one conversation without the other.

    • @MrGgabber
      @MrGgabber Місяць тому +3

      Also poor white people, as MLK pushed for reparations to include poor southern whites

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +2

      It had huge socio economic impacts on EVERYONE. Hell if you're going with slavery and wars all you folks should be paying the British. They ended the transatlantic slave trade for everyone, through war, loss of life and debt... They only finished paying the debt incurred by ending the trans Atlantic slave trade in 2015.

    • @megavolt67
      @megavolt67 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@MrGgabber Making it all the more sad that many white people of his day accused him of being a race baiter and troublemaker just like many whites say now whenever social and economic injustice as it relates to race is brought up.
      I was stunned when I first read some of the letters many years ago at how nothing has changed in terms of how more conservative-minded people try to gaslight and deflect on those issues. And Trump along with this whole anti-woke movement has made those non-arguments the go-to response even more.
      Then there's the added irony of how these same people whose equivalents in the past despised King now pretend that his speech about content of character was primarily meant to defend whites from being judged for THEIR color. And of course they completely ignore the socialist aspect of his politics (both conservatives and mainstream liberals ignore it; conservatives will focus on his Christianity and liberals will focus on his black identity) in order to try and use his legacy as a cudgel AGAINST the social justice movements of today. It's the most cynical thing ever.

    • @bassman777
      @bassman777 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@megavolt67👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @ayanaatthrivebewhole
    @ayanaatthrivebewhole Місяць тому +7

    Ana, you missed what Sunny just said. She said that race also mattered. She agreed with him that MLK talked about how the importance of class, and also said that race was important to him, which is true. MLK never advocated for completely eliminating race from the conversation. He was nuanced.
    Also, Sunny said that she said that people were using him and co-opting his message on the right. Not necessarily that he is a grifter.

    • @Cecebenjiroxy
      @Cecebenjiroxy Місяць тому

      Sunny is a race baiting POS, everything is racism, loves the victim mentality more than anyone I have seen, and she is half white, but fails to recognize that for some reason.

    • @Greatnate-xz1dl
      @Greatnate-xz1dl Місяць тому

      She's a POS because she says things in media that needs to be said or asked? It's a "victim" mentality to shine a light on the issues and wrongs that still are perpetuated in the Minority communities? Then yes, guilty as charged! FOH 🤡​@@Cecebenjiroxy

    • @pyrocro
      @pyrocro Місяць тому +2

      @@Greatnate-xz1dl @Cecebenjiroxy has to be a bot. lolz true on the clown behavior.

  • @Fahima90
    @Fahima90 Місяць тому +5

    Actually, equity was King's goal not colorblindness.

  • @garfieldharrison510
    @garfieldharrison510 Місяць тому +17

    Excuse me. Why can't she wear a Gucci Belt. She works legally in America.

    • @justlooking2902
      @justlooking2902 Місяць тому +4

      Pointing out she is a rich person against helping poor people.

  • @nozmind
    @nozmind Місяць тому +13

    Ana, as much as I understand your reasoning that focusing on socio-economics is the best way to address inequality across the board and that all ships will rise including those black and brown ships. I know that it’s also the best way to get legislation passed. The problem is still the way that race influences the execution of those policies. Just ask black farmers about the Farm Bills and when these inequities are addressed by legislation, the remedy is met with the same logic that you’re proposing. I would be nice if we could get past the wrongs of the past without addressing them and move forward but it seems like that’s not going to be possible. They just continue to pop up all over the world.

  • @crabbypatty10fefrefe
    @crabbypatty10fefrefe Місяць тому +6

    Sunny's counter points are lying and saying she knows MLK's daughter. Lmao

  • @lawrencejacksonjr9635
    @lawrencejacksonjr9635 Місяць тому +5

    😂😂😂 even though you're color blind in identifying a color in a crayon box you see people's color/race and are often judged on that. There are things put in places based on color, race, and economics.

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому

      What things are put in place?

  • @jameskelton6579
    @jameskelton6579 Місяць тому +15

    Ana is accusing Sunny of being entitled while providing her own thoughts as a white woman of some affluence in America. Even with both ladies having an entitlement of money and notoriety, both are not treated the same in American society. Ana will never understand that first hand.

    • @berrylee5000
      @berrylee5000 Місяць тому

      How tight is that tinfoil hat ur wearing?

    • @jadapinkett1656
      @jadapinkett1656 Місяць тому

      The Armenian Genocide begs to differ. When were any of your ancestors in the same boat?

    • @berrylee5000
      @berrylee5000 Місяць тому

      @jadapinkett1656 everyones anscestors have had something happen to them. Americans today r the biggest cry babies on the planet

    • @jameskelton6579
      @jameskelton6579 Місяць тому

      @@jadapinkett1656 which thankfully didn't happen in American society within her lifetime that she had to experience firsthand.

  • @michaelsweat9044
    @michaelsweat9044 Місяць тому +27

    A colorblind society is wishful thinking. As long as there are racist( no matter what race you are) there will always be racism.

    • @WAEVOICE
      @WAEVOICE Місяць тому +3

      How much of general society is racist, though?
      Hard to say these days since anything can pass as racism.

    • @rudeboyjim2684
      @rudeboyjim2684 Місяць тому

      Coleman Hughes SAID a colorblind society is wishful thinking. It’s clear you don’t have the capacity to even LISTEN.

    • @felixrodriguez-rivera1787
      @felixrodriguez-rivera1787 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly. Colorblind society it’s not realistic.

    • @rudeboyjim2684
      @rudeboyjim2684 Місяць тому

      Please name just ONE policy that would be more helpful targeting a sordid race than a specific class. Just one?

    • @Cecebenjiroxy
      @Cecebenjiroxy Місяць тому

      the only racists these days are people like Sonny and Whoopi.

  • @MarcoWarren-bc1rp
    @MarcoWarren-bc1rp Місяць тому +5

    Didn't have Anna have a brown boyfriend before? Anna is letting her attraction for this guy blind her of his intent smh so much for unbiased professional journalism

  • @esercye
    @esercye Місяць тому +4

    So privilege is not reality huh ?

  • @Ktgman66
    @Ktgman66 Місяць тому +22

    I think this commentary shows where the white progressive separates from the experience of the African-Americans

    • @David-kq4jc
      @David-kq4jc Місяць тому

      White liberals have always been white first. The libs in my city vote for white politicians.

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier Місяць тому +1

      African-Americans want to be victims so bad

    • @BasilMalik
      @BasilMalik Місяць тому +5

      we have no allies

    • @Flashyfinancier
      @Flashyfinancier Місяць тому +1

      @@BasilMalik shut up

    • @BasilMalik
      @BasilMalik Місяць тому

      @@Flashyfinancier Make me.

  • @rowenarrow
    @rowenarrow Місяць тому +11

    Am I the only one walking away from this feeling like Ana is saying Sunny is rejecting "class" as a category but hearing Sunny just saying that "race" needs to be accounted for; not discarding "class"? Sorry for the run-on but I am at least happy Ana admits to the bias in the beginning because I think it is showing.

    • @hispanicchick2232
      @hispanicchick2232 Місяць тому

      Ana is totally broken. She is totally off her “liberal” rock

    • @christophergeorge1288
      @christophergeorge1288 Місяць тому +2

      You're not the only one cause I interpreted Sunny's comments the exact same way.
      The way that Ana is reading this conversation does show some White Privilege because race has always come into play when assistance is doled out.
      Besides, we've done class-based assistance before. And in ALL of those cases, Black folks were severely limited or outright denied a share of the pie to benefit White people and other, lighter skinned, races that prove momentarily useful. We're also unfairly used as scapegoats when the government wants to reduce financial assistance for the poor.

  • @KLS775
    @KLS775 Місяць тому +7

    I’m black and I’ll say this I don’t want a hand out or reparations
    If things are addressed class based everything and everyone will be helped out
    Sad that people can’t think independently these days

    • @bonniedavis2407
      @bonniedavis2407 Місяць тому +3

      Maybe you need to read the book CASTE..there’s reasons why these racial/class situations among humanity are the way they are..it’s an eye opener of a read..js❤

    • @troywaters943
      @troywaters943 Місяць тому +2

      Well I'll take your share then. And don't ask for it back. Keep buck dancing for the dominant society

    • @raymonds7492
      @raymonds7492 Місяць тому

      Reparations are a past due bill for work already done. Handouts are what whites have gotten for America’s entire history.

    • @KLS775
      @KLS775 Місяць тому

      @@troywaters943 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡

    • @troywaters943
      @troywaters943 Місяць тому

      @@KLS775 rather be a 🤡 than a 🦝

  • @mpalmer7800
    @mpalmer7800 Місяць тому +5

    Stop 🛑 talking about king he was murdered by the same ppl who puts him on a pedestal

  • @dirtyenergywar7029
    @dirtyenergywar7029 Місяць тому +24

    White slave owners got THEIR reparations after slavery ended, Ana.
    Take your time...

    • @Dponthedl
      @Dponthedl Місяць тому +2

      Glad to see the comments are on point. But maybe we should stop watching perhaps the trick is getting the comments

    • @SexyBeautifulBabe
      @SexyBeautifulBabe Місяць тому

      You’re never getting reparations.. get over it .. never!!

    • @TrevorMauk
      @TrevorMauk Місяць тому +2

      Affirmative action and DEI is reparations.

    • @Dponthedl
      @Dponthedl Місяць тому

      @@TrevorMauk Affirmative action, while well-intentioned, has not been sufficient to overcome the deep-seated economic and social disparities caused by centuries of slavery, segregation, and systemic racism. These disparities are not just historical artifacts, but ongoing realities that continue to affect the lives of African Americans today. As Ta-Nehisi Coates argues in "The Case for Reparations," affirmative action policies, which typically focus on increasing diversity in education and employment, do not address the broader social and economic inequalities that exist.
      Moreover, affirmative action has been criticized for benefiting primarily the middle and upper classes, while leaving behind the most disadvantaged members of marginalized groups. In "The Souls of Black Folk," W.E.B. Du Bois writes about the concept of the "Talented Tenth," the idea that the most educated and successful African Americans have a responsibility to uplift the rest of the community. However, affirmative action policies that focus on increasing representation in elite institutions may inadvertently reinforce this divide, rather than addressing the root causes of inequality.
      Color blindness, the idea that we should not "see" race and should treat everyone equally, ignores the reality of systemic racism and the ways in which race continues to shape our society. In "The New Jim Crow," Michelle Alexander argues that the mass incarceration of African American men is a form of racial control that functions in a similar way to the Jim Crow laws, despite being ostensibly colorblind. Similarly, in "White Fragility," Robin DiAngelo argues that the idea of color blindness prevents white people from acknowledging and addressing their own racial biases.
      The idea of color blindness also ignores the ways in which government policies have actively created and perpetuated racial segregation and inequality. In "The Color of Law," Richard Rothstein argues that housing segregation in America was not a result of private discrimination, but a product of explicit government policies. This history of government-sanctioned discrimination cannot be addressed by simply treating everyone equally under the law.
      Finally, the focus on individual success and meritocracy that often accompanies discussions of affirmative action and color blindness ignores the ways in which systemic inequality affects people's lives. In "Evicted," Matthew Desmond shows how the lack of affordable housing can trap people in a cycle of poverty, regardless of their individual efforts. Similarly, in "The Warmth of Other Suns," Isabel Wilkerson tells the stories of African Americans who left the South during the Great Migration, seeking better opportunities in the North and West, but often finding that systemic racism and discrimination had followed them.

    • @dirtyenergywar7029
      @dirtyenergywar7029 Місяць тому

      @@TrevorMauk Funny how the slave owners only settled for cold hard currency...🙄

  • @erinlevere6881
    @erinlevere6881 Місяць тому +8

    Anna join Ben Shapiro and take Candace’s place.

  • @NicholasJ-
    @NicholasJ- Місяць тому +6

    Ana K needs to do waaaaay more to convince me she has been red-pilled. Leaving TYT would be oñe step in the right direction though!!😂😂😂😂

  • @wisdomngorube167
    @wisdomngorube167 Місяць тому +7

    She obviously doesnt know the meaning of 'ad hominem'

  • @LoveDebate
    @LoveDebate Місяць тому +26

    Also, didn’t a study show that white women benefited most from affirmative action? When you don’t make it specific enough, white people seem to always benefit more from whatever policy you put in place

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +5

      Which is another reason to create policies based on class rather than genetics.

    • @MasterBlaster-pe5os
      @MasterBlaster-pe5os Місяць тому

      All of the black racists came out to play.

    • @jonnyfyre2344
      @jonnyfyre2344 Місяць тому +8

      @@adampike3834 Create policy based on lineage. Be absolutely targeted to the economic injury that was inflicted - specifically, slavery and the resulting economic apartheid. Yvette Carnell breaks down the foolishness of class politics. It’s becoming apparent that the left is incredibly unserious when addressing Black wealth disparity.

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому

      @@jonnyfyre2344 Okay, which will ignore even more black people in the US and people of other races who are suffering. It will also result in some of the black people who already doing much better then 90% of the population getting even more. That will just make the problems even worse.

    • @Tmack034
      @Tmack034 Місяць тому

      I'll do you one better. A policy on paper was colorless. The ones that introduced the GI bill, VA loan and all the other military benefits to US soldiers after WWII. Who was able to actual use those benefits 🤔? What color of people used that to build the generational wealth their families still benefit from today? Meanwhile the other group who faught in the same war faced barriers to use those benefits. So Ana can miss me with that whole we should just focus on class bs. Because we have historical context of "colorblind" polices that only certain people could take advantage of.

  • @christinemulk173
    @christinemulk173 Місяць тому +13

    Where is your proof that Black support for Trump has increased and what does a person’s attire have to do with the conversation. So childish!!

    • @ghostman3344
      @ghostman3344 Місяць тому

      She's showing her true colors...I'm not surprised...

  • @jacquelynhorton373
    @jacquelynhorton373 Місяць тому +6

    Economically disadvantages has evidence that race plays a part. Yes, we can discuss "class-based politics" and even that includes race. As long as the ones who have the $, the power and the influence, usually race loyal.

    • @Schubert_Standchen
      @Schubert_Standchen Місяць тому +2

      His views are classic truth.
      Today's Americans would benefit to humbly accept the possibility that someone like Coleman can very well be wiser than you.

    • @jacquelynhorton373
      @jacquelynhorton373 Місяць тому +1

      I guess for some it might sound "wiser". I think they both had the same point. Having a universal socio-economic and income measure (in which we have) will result in the same outcome. Maybe referencing the race is more the issue and I hear that often to be removed. Additionally, I understand his concern for poor whites and possibly other non-blacks being left out due to the GREAT number of blacks in disparity. I hope they see his concerns for them as well.@@Schubert_Standchen

  • @Ramonafloyd
    @Ramonafloyd Місяць тому +5

    Well it doesn't and it shouldnt but the sysyem in place have been on the books for decades in writing ..Anna you need a read a book about red-lining and how black farmer lost their land and aid and domain laws the leveled communities especially minorities. Disney World was built on one of those communities that was lost over voting rights. She didnt say he was a charalatan she said others have and her questions was what did he think about it?

  • @Gissie291
    @Gissie291 Місяць тому +24

    Ana as a black woman you certainly don’t speak for me

    • @VR20524
      @VR20524 Місяць тому +5

      Did she say she did?

    • @ashleysullivan3411
      @ashleysullivan3411 Місяць тому +3

      @@VR20524 she was trying to blacksplain a black position. Don't do that too much nuance

    • @WAEVOICE
      @WAEVOICE Місяць тому

      @@ashleysullivan3411
      A black position that many willfully deny.

  • @user-ud4kh5bh4f
    @user-ud4kh5bh4f Місяць тому +8

    Sunny think she smarter then everyone in the room PERIOD

    • @immzbossyingrid5365
      @immzbossyingrid5365 Місяць тому +2

      She just might be from the rhetoric I hear up and down the panel

    • @user-ud4kh5bh4f
      @user-ud4kh5bh4f Місяць тому +1

      @@immzbossyingrid5365 exactly 💯

    • @user-ud4kh5bh4f
      @user-ud4kh5bh4f Місяць тому +1

      @@immzbossyingrid5365 exactly 💯

  • @Adrian-Jamaica
    @Adrian-Jamaica Місяць тому +8

    Ana is just another fan girl of Coleman Hughes and she is a bit mindless hater of Sunny who is has been wrong on so many issues. This is not one of them. Class based economic policies are great and should be combined with racial reparations. Coleman deliberately misrepresent MLK.
    Forget about Ana's stupid Gucci accessories comment. Not very thoughtful on your part Ana.

    • @JamalSantos-ns9ks
      @JamalSantos-ns9ks Місяць тому +2

      reparations? who will pay for that? I wont pay for that shite.

    • @scratchpenny
      @scratchpenny Місяць тому +1

      How will that work? And who will pay for it? No one has viable answers to these questions.

    • @bodyguardbrocksamson
      @bodyguardbrocksamson Місяць тому

      @scratchpenny The same way it works whenever this country *wants* to get anything done. 😐

  • @chu2ks2dfutur
    @chu2ks2dfutur Місяць тому +3

    I'm based in the UK, and an older gentleman called me a "coloured guy". Everyone around tensed up, and made him apologise to me for using that term. Yet the very same people would ask me a question with the preface, "as a person of colour what do you...." Coloured guy and Person of Colour are the same thing in my book. Who made these rules?

    • @babyqueenxo
      @babyqueenxo Місяць тому +3

      May I ask you something? Will you ever stand up against a person being antagonistic to a white person because they're white? You have close to 7000 comments here talking far worse to white people. What's your response to that?

    • @killed_by_the_architect-829
      @killed_by_the_architect-829 Місяць тому +1

      He should have never apologized to you, he did nothing wrong.

    • @babyqueenxo
      @babyqueenxo Місяць тому

      @@killed_by_the_architect-829 This is a bit awkward...but is my previous comment visible or has TYT hidden it again? 😅

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому

      @@babyqueenxo I can see it.

  • @BillyJr68
    @BillyJr68 Місяць тому +43

    I keep saying this. Cenk Uger and Anna Kasparian have made video upon video criticizing Bill Maher. Yet they are sounding more and more like him every day.

    • @Maroonpanther1257
      @Maroonpanther1257 Місяць тому +2

      Absolutely

    • @easongwe
      @easongwe Місяць тому +2

      Totally agree

    • @ThatApeBigMad488
      @ThatApeBigMad488 Місяць тому

      She's right and you know it. The left doesn't care bout white people. The poor whites were betrayed and forgotten. They are the most oppressed people in this country.

    • @mornediablo7819
      @mornediablo7819 Місяць тому +3

      They need that right wing audience

    • @Halberstramshaberdashery
      @Halberstramshaberdashery Місяць тому +3

      You can say that but everything left of TYT on UA-cam nowadays is unwatchable. There’s been a huge drop in quality of content. For example, Secular Talk straight up sucks now.

  • @husseinshoucair5349
    @husseinshoucair5349 Місяць тому +55

    I am a middle eastern man who is the son of immigrants who grew up poor and I delt with discrimination to a certain extent and grew up in dominant minority areas in NY and Detroit and despite being a fan of TYT ana is WRONG, without race there is no class. America was built on RACE and the idea of class comes from race since the class system picks and chooses who it rewards the most which are white Americans. ana you are wrong, sorry! Class is important ofc but class was Built on RACE.

    • @kiroolioneaver8532
      @kiroolioneaver8532 Місяць тому +5

      This is why "Killers of the Flower Moon" (written by two old white dudes) is such a poignant film. It's all class > race until racialized people are economic equals with (or even start to better) the dominant group (then you see what happens to the Osage or the Tulsa Massacure, which is also referenced in the film). The system of dividing people on race was specifically done so that poor people wouldn't unite and rise against the wealthy as the indentured white servants and black slaves had repeatedly done in Colonial America

    • @tonys4751
      @tonys4751 Місяць тому

      You're wrong and misguided. You have unfortunately been brainwashed by a depressed community that doesn't want to hold itself accountable. All I see are a bunch of East Indians running fortune 500 companies, being doctors, running small businesses, and being engineers making money hand over fist. They are darker than your average African American and they love America. While they are make something of themselves, people with your mindset pee in their pants.

    • @MoeSizlak
      @MoeSizlak Місяць тому +4

      Thank you 👏🏾

    • @bradadult2075
      @bradadult2075 Місяць тому +7

      How come Asians and Jews are most successful races in American then? Another hole in your logic is Nigerians that come to America are very successful. It has more to due with culture than race. Ana is right ignoring 50% of the country based on skin color is not going to help poverty. Yes on average people of color are more likely to be poor but that doesn’t change the fact that based on the number more white people are poor. If you under stand how averages work than if white people have more billionaires that doesn’t mean all white people benefit. Do all black people benfit when diddy became a billionaire?

    • @kiroolioneaver8532
      @kiroolioneaver8532 Місяць тому +4

      @@bradadult2075 Americans whose ancestors were slaves were not willing immigrants to America (ditto unskilled immigrants coming from Latin America). The issue with using the success of more recent immigrant groups is the self-selective element. People who willingly chose to come to America or Nigeria are inherently driven risk takers (think of the enormous risk it takes to travel tens of thousands of miles to a new culture where you know no one). Of course people who are willing immigrants (particularly those who have higher education in their home lands) are going to be more successful. A lot of Latino and African Americans are the first people in their families to graduate high school (let alone post-secondary). Those immigrant groups have grandparents with university degrees. it's a false equivalency lol

  • @press1500
    @press1500 Місяць тому +7

    this dude has his head in the clouds

  • @SuperDuperSentinel
    @SuperDuperSentinel Місяць тому +35

    Ana is really disingenuous the way you portrayed Sunny’s arguments. Race-based and class-based progressive policies are meant to CO-EXIST. It is not an “either or” proposition or “zero sum game”, but rather a comprehensive and holistic approach to combatting the wealth disparities in this country, much of which has been historically ingrained into policies and their enforcement (or lack thereof)
    Sunny was NOT arguing against class-based economic policies. Coleman IS the one arguing against race-based policies. This is what Sunny took umbrage with and rightfully challenged.
    Historically speaking, POC, especially black and indigenous people have been ignored and sidelined when it came to policies that were supposedly created for “everyone”: whether its the denial of homeowner loan and land ownership to the exclusion of black and indigenous groups in New Deal policies and emergency aid. Pretending that the people legislating and enforcing policies magically stop being racist only serves to prolong the stagnation of economic immobility for marginalized groups. Unfortunately, in order to combat racism policy often NEEDS to be highly specific and targeted. This doesn’t mean that class-based policies shouldn’t be happening on a parallel track, they absolutely should. But anyone preaching that there is NO place for specific and targeted race-based policies to dismantled systems created by the historic legacy of racism in this country IS ACTING IN BAD FAITH.
    Sunny, and millions of other black voters, should absolutely be skeptical and critical of anyone making this kind of argument. These are the liberals that Malcolm X tried to warn the people about.

    • @MsMonte73
      @MsMonte73 Місяць тому +6

      You are on point!!! 💯💯💯 Thank you for breaking it down they way you did.

    • @Dponthedl
      @Dponthedl Місяць тому +4

      Great point man. Tyt is sadly lost bit by bit homeless by homeless

    • @vermithrax7796
      @vermithrax7796 Місяць тому

      Couldn't have said it better myself. What i will say is that the only way you're going to get a critical mass of white working class support for transformational progressive policies is if you change the wealth position of Black people in this country via reparations. So long as they perceive negroes doing worse than them they'll maintain and defend the status qou. LBJ understood the psyche of his people very well.

    • @rudeboyjim2684
      @rudeboyjim2684 Місяць тому +5

      Name ONE policy that is better off targeting a specific race than a specific economic bracket. Just 1.

    • @massiesmercedes-benz2483
      @massiesmercedes-benz2483 Місяць тому +2

      @@rudeboyjim2684 "Division" is Ana's concern so when Japanese Americans received their reparations did it cause any "division" or did life go on?
      We only hear this fear of division when it comes to the black community receiving ANYTHING that is rightfully ours🕵🏾

  • @danmadej8398
    @danmadej8398 Місяць тому +10

    The view is pure trash

  • @michaeldean9338
    @michaeldean9338 Місяць тому +5

    Both Ana and Coleman are conflating two things: What most genuine and fair people WOULD LIKE to be (and should be) as a reality, verses what (esp. politicians and 'pundits') claim they'd like to see, and is FAR SHORT of reality.

    • @Socialists-are-fascists
      @Socialists-are-fascists Місяць тому +2

      Trolling communist nonsense.

    • @pyrocro
      @pyrocro Місяць тому +1

      @@Socialists-are-fascists Wow and at least make sense

  • @rgnldwllms
    @rgnldwllms Місяць тому +5

    I hear you, Anna, on wanting everyone to succeed; however, in today's climate, Gerrymandering us alive and real and designed for the purpose of eliminating equality.

  • @brandonnash4455
    @brandonnash4455 Місяць тому +11

    More and more young people in the black community are starting to see both parties for what they are and i love it. Critical thinking is essential.

  • @moshaabazz7738
    @moshaabazz7738 Місяць тому +10

    Color blindness is a nice idea if it's implemented fairly and consistently, but it is clear that that's not always the case, and in my opinion the only way to fully address them is to approach them honestly and seriously, because regardless of what someone may see it's about how they act at the end of the day.

    • @BasilMalik
      @BasilMalik Місяць тому +1

      America will never be color blind. For some reason america doesn't feel superior unless they do any and everything to thwart the progress of Black People.

  • @MountainViews90
    @MountainViews90 Місяць тому +4

    Classism will never go away. One of the prides of life is knowing you are doing better than someone else.

  • @Devous7114
    @Devous7114 Місяць тому +4

    Ana, you didn't understand the ASSIGNMENT.
    Stop talking in circles.

  • @theycallmedopeness
    @theycallmedopeness Місяць тому +8

    You’re speaking about a topic that you know nothing about!! It’s a little gross!!

    • @thereallazygirl
      @thereallazygirl Місяць тому

      what's gross about saying let's help all poor ppl ?

  • @naqwnaqw3712
    @naqwnaqw3712 Місяць тому +23

    Just because she’s wearing gucci doesn’t mean she’s blind when it comes to poverty especially for low income black ppl

    • @tioswift3676
      @tioswift3676 Місяць тому +7

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @naqwnaqw3712
      @naqwnaqw3712 Місяць тому +1

      Tell that to Serena Williams

    • @justlooking2902
      @justlooking2902 Місяць тому +1

      Another rich person against helping poor people.

  • @Micology101
    @Micology101 Місяць тому +6

    Coleman is privileged, and what do Sunny's clothing has to do with anything, you got to be kidding!! 😊!! Thank you!! Mic'2024

    • @highzen7107
      @highzen7107 Місяць тому +4

      They’re both privileged, therefore both wrong

    • @igloozoo3771
      @igloozoo3771 Місяць тому +1

      Sunny's riches has everything to do with her "America is Racist" hypocrisy

  • @gilmoremccoy6930
    @gilmoremccoy6930 Місяць тому +7

    Anna, you should speak on your white privilege. And respect black people who speak about how we suffer daily from racism.

    • @willomanza
      @willomanza Місяць тому +2

      How do you suffer? It must suck living as a perpetual victim and blaming another race for your shortcomings. There's nothing that a white person or immigrant can do that you can't.

    • @dinocollins720
      @dinocollins720 Місяць тому +1

      dumb comment!

    • @jeffersonhughes3580
      @jeffersonhughes3580 Місяць тому +1

      all others group in US are doing good, latinos, african,arabs,asian, europeans, rusian, the only groups who cry racism and white privilege everywhere are black americans🤦‍♂

    • @posey153
      @posey153 Місяць тому +2

      @@jeffersonhughes3580 🤔 then obviously there must be a problem, the only people that speak like you or people who aren’t affected by it.🤦🏾‍♂️ a group of people that have suffered from 244 years of slavery, another 100 years of Jim Crow, convict leasing, segregation do I need to continue? Has every right to complain, this country was built off a slave economy. So until America pays what is owed. We will continue to complain.🤦🏾‍♂️😡😡🤬

    • @Socialists-are-fascists
      @Socialists-are-fascists Місяць тому

      @@posey153 🤣😂😂 go away, Oh that's correct your ancestors wouldn't want you back and try to sell you again.

  • @alicewlliams7063
    @alicewlliams7063 Місяць тому +40

    Please stop speaking for Black Americans. I am a 72 year old Black woman who was born in America. The author of that book has no idea what he is talking about. America has not changed,

    • @VR20524
      @VR20524 Місяць тому +5

      I disagree with you, ma'am. We have made humongous strides and people of color, like myself, have more opportunities than ever before. While I'm in my 40s, I'll admit I haven't seen what you've seen. But we are a FAR cry from those days.

    • @alee1700
      @alee1700 Місяць тому

      @@VR20524 What does that have to do with her point. We've made strides with gender and LGBTQ - so activist should stop and kowtow.
      So the answer is you got 1/2 a loaf when you didn't have any loaf in the 1960s so STFU.
      It ain't your place nor is it Ana's to determine the scope of what is enough equality.
      Why the vitriol against Hostin - attacking her being priviledged, like POC should have a guilty conscience for being successful. This is freakin deranged.

    • @californication751
      @californication751 Місяць тому +12

      @@VR20524 Your post is proof of how little progress has changed, though. A Black woman posted about her experience as a Black woman in America, and the first thing you did was erase her with the experiences of "people of color," as if her experience as a Black person isn't a singular, individual experience that would differ from your own. That's the epitome of the anti-Black racism she may have had in mind when saying what she did.

    • @VR20524
      @VR20524 Місяць тому +4

      @@californication751 You're putting words in mouth. I was respectful to her and her experiences. I don't know where this ire comes from or why it is directed at me. I'm for all people, not just those of a certain color.

    • @timweb1510
      @timweb1510 Місяць тому +3

      Oh no, we have an elderly crybaby that is so special 🤓

  • @alfredthomas4006
    @alfredthomas4006 Місяць тому +4

    He haven’t suffered any consequences he have been living a good safe life and not seen what this country has done and is doing because he and a lot like him hasn’t been under taxation without representation like the older generation has, we are still here son !!!!!

  • @CarlNipmuc
    @CarlNipmuc Місяць тому +15

    I am happy to see that Blacks in the comments are taking Ana to task on this horrible take she's presented. But I think we should take her admission that she "likes" Coleman as proof she is completely unreliable on this issue. Better luck next time, Ana

  • @Andyman89.
    @Andyman89. 21 день тому +6

    A few years ago, i unsubscribed from TYT. I thought it had become an extrem leftist eco chamber, and i could predict their every take. There was nothing thought provoking or intresting about the takes i heared.
    Now, thanks to Ana, ive seen alot of more reasonable and common sence takes. So, ive subscribed again.
    I dont think you will read this Ana, but if u do, thanks! You are giving me hope for the left!

    • @TravelsTTG
      @TravelsTTG 8 днів тому

      They are progressives that’s fine as long as they are honest.

  • @alntr2872
    @alntr2872 Місяць тому +7

    Ana, he makes some good points. However, this country was built on racism and is inherently racist. If you don't address the race issue and make reparations, monetary disbursements for slavery you can't fully address the class issue. You need to do more research on race and racism in America. Remember, your family came here many years after slavery and your perspective is from the view of the time you became aware of these issues. Black Americans have been here for hundreds of years and have a lived experience that you and your family that came here does not have. Soi it is kind of shortsighted for you to try and lecture Sonny when you don't have her lived experience. People should want to learn from the people who have the lived experience and know what it means to be 'black" in an inherently racist society. You have not had to suffer raced based prejudice your whole life, so on what research and lived experience are you basing your ideas? Stop telling black people how to feel and start to listen. It's obvious the guy you're agreeing with is compromised in his perspective because he does not have a full view of understanding that Sonny is speaking from. If you study MLK closely you will see that was was closer to Marcus Garvey than you would ever think, especially with regards to reparations. He, MLK spoke out against class injustice because it was unjust, as you tend to speak out about injustices that you care about. But that does not negate his perspective, views and work for the betterment of black people. You are trying to place MLK in a box to support your own views instead of studying him fully and that's what the guy was trying to do and Sonny was not having it, and neither should you if you want to be taken seriously. At the moment you can't be taken seriously on this issue. Have you studied WEB Dubois, John Henrick Clarke, Dr. Fuller, Dr. Cress Welsing, Marcus Garvey, Dr. Ben Jochannan, Cheik Anta Diop? Or, have you listened to the Bob Marley album Survival closely. Have you done any of these things? Have you really studied their work deeply and seriously and take a scholarly approach to the issue? I bet not or you would have a better understanding of the issue. You should look up Dixon White on youtube, you can start there.

    • @Cecebenjiroxy
      @Cecebenjiroxy Місяць тому

      Black people today dont deserve anyone's money but there own money. You got to work to earn your money, nobody was a slave today, and nobody was a slave owner, people come to this country with nothing and work hard, black people have every chance to succeed if they work hard just like anyone else.

    • @kareem8250
      @kareem8250 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Cecebenjiroxyit's their. And what is your reasoning behind reparation being paid out to all of these other groups in class of people over the past century? And those payouts were due to them because of the US government.

    • @famousnobody7574
      @famousnobody7574 Місяць тому

      @@Cecebenjiroxy Whoooo gives a fuck how other people comes to this country & accomplish! If it was for the Civil Rights Movement foreigners would NOT even have that opportunity to do so. have been built for FREE & if wasn't for slavery (also FREE labor) WHITES wouldn't have the monetary advantage that they have til this day. Anything White folks has obtained was due to the detriment of others. White folks have NEVERRRR gained anything honestly bcuz they're too gat damn lazy.
      And a lil known fact: Anything MY people built of their own, you jealous WHITE DEVILS purposely destroyed....SO WE ARE INDEED OWED REPARATIONS! ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽

    • @Cecebenjiroxy
      @Cecebenjiroxy Місяць тому

      @@kareem8250 which groups have reperations been paid to. If Sonny was a slave, I would say pay her reperations, thats it. Nobody deserves money for someone elses suffering.

    • @kareem8250
      @kareem8250 Місяць тому

      @@Cecebenjiroxy I'm not googling for you. do you plan on leaving your kids anything in your will?

  • @seeyoucu
    @seeyoucu Місяць тому +37

    Can you all at TYT bring in someone else - ANYONE ELSE - to do segments on issues of race? Really ANY other contributor will do! John, Francesca, Jayar...because these ill-prepared, poorly-researched, half-baked takes... it's enough already. I don't even mind disagreeing with a contributor but this is neither entertaining nor informative.

    • @dawnsmith9596
      @dawnsmith9596 Місяць тому +6

      Cenk, John, Francesca and Jayar are great! I was a paid member for a short time. I couldn't take Ana anymore and ended my membership.

    • @Regenmacher175
      @Regenmacher175 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, Ana just likes being a reactionary contrarian and she's doing it because she keeps getting praised for it by people on the right who enjoy the fact that she's embracing their right-wing framing on a host of policy issues. She's not going to stop.

    • @adamlynch6954
      @adamlynch6954 Місяць тому

      Ana is complete garbage she whines complains about "identity politics" yet claims because of her identity as an Armenian American she can't support President Biden .

    • @leanhankins7749
      @leanhankins7749 Місяць тому

      All she wants to do is play black people against each other for her on Trump benefit FTB

  • @helen_124_user
    @helen_124_user Місяць тому +26

    I agree with Sunny on this one. Her clothing brand shouldn't matter, either.

    • @leanhankins7749
      @leanhankins7749 Місяць тому

      All she ever want to do is come between black people Let her tell it all white people love Donald Trump FTB

  • @whoami-dh5vt
    @whoami-dh5vt Місяць тому +3

    watching ana let progressives down is funny as F!
    Watching cenk let ana let progressives down, in order for cenk to keep the money coming in
    is f'n hilarious!!!!!
    tyt is comedy gold!!!!!

  • @kelvinmorris1991
    @kelvinmorris1991 Місяць тому +3

    Coleman Hughes lol. Claude Anderson would wipe the floor with him lol

  • @dirtyenergywar7029
    @dirtyenergywar7029 Місяць тому +14

    She's being realistic...
    He's been idealistic...
    EXACTLY what we need to bring together, Ana!!!
    (Jesus, what are we DOING here!)

    • @erolegario
      @erolegario Місяць тому

      Because you are a racist.

  • @brenthowell2616
    @brenthowell2616 Місяць тому +26

    Welp, there it is. Ana's true colors shown. When they show you who they are, believe them.

    • @Dponthedl
      @Dponthedl Місяць тому

      Yup best believe it and leave behind

    • @zoldierz
      @zoldierz Місяць тому

      She has shown them for years actually

    • @WAEVOICE
      @WAEVOICE Місяць тому

      Spoken like a bigger tribalist than Ana will ever be.

  • @vasken3458
    @vasken3458 Місяць тому +5

    Coleman is correct and the Black Industrial Race Complex is running scared....No more free stuff people, gonna have to try and work hard.

  • @Bob-sd8ns
    @Bob-sd8ns Місяць тому +4

    She’s parroting talking points from the far left…like a pawn

  • @danaRXC23
    @danaRXC23 Місяць тому +23

    Once again I find myself saying to Anna you don't speak for black people. I agree with Sunny. The right has taken his words and used them against black folks. That is the very definition of a pawn. I have seen him on several shows and podcasts and I have have always felt the exact same as Sunny. I am not a democrat and I do welcome conversations that challenge my thinking. For you to say she just dismissed him without having known what he was about is disingenuous, you don't know that. Just like you don't know if we have done that. I agree with you he makes some very valid points and in theory I do agree with some of what he says however that doesn't change what Sunny said or make it vitriolic... Black people I know DO feel that way about him. Including Dr. Kings daughter. So please don't speak for the Black community. Your assessment of Sunny's comments very slanted and inaccurate.

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому +1

      Ah well, clearly that means we must dismiss everything said because some bad actors will try to hijack the message... By this logic we can dismiss every single idea.

    • @thatmanfromcleveland2835
      @thatmanfromcleveland2835 Місяць тому

      ​@@adampike3834if you don't understand white supremacy you will never understand anything in America if you are black. This guy also was preaching that blacks have lower IQs because this white nationalist wrote a book.

    • @thatmanfromcleveland2835
      @thatmanfromcleveland2835 Місяць тому +3

      It's weird how people act like they can't see this

    • @adampike3834
      @adampike3834 Місяць тому

      @@thatmanfromcleveland2835 citation needed.