I feel like a lot of people are really underestimating or otherwise underselling this weapon. It's HELLA bursty if you take advantage of the CD Reset on Perforate by popping Distress, and it's basically Greatsword: The Sequel in terms of damage and functionality. It's an excellent choice for Power Reaper setups and I love how Extirpate and Perforate feel to use. The wide-arc swing and magic circle on Extirpate and the lots of little numbers popping up in addition to the sound direction on Perforate are immensely satisfying. It's also got a VICIOUS "Execute" threshold where it just *melts* things below 50% HP on top of Reaper already capitalizing on passive bonuses to enemies within the Execute threshold. Excellent weapon. Good shit and I love it.
As a Power Reaper main this is the best summing up I've seen. It's GS with a teleport and unlike Gravedigger you really just need to tap 2 rather than spam it. Slapped a Superior Sigil of Force on there for +5% damage and with Relic of Fireworks triggered for another +5% it melts enemies. Me like.
@@KROOF I'm currently playing with an ascended land spear for my revenant herald/renegade main plus maxe/axe as second set. I just got this "simple" version as an ascended weapon after making the matching story progress. I'm totally excited about this new land weapon and I`m looking forward to get this weapon for my other classes.
@@jimdandytheboss I go sword/sword and spear and it's a nice combo. Especially seeing we have the third option of shroud skills. Spear has quickly become my melee weapon of choice.
I'm currently having lots of funzies with Spear/Swords Harb in PvP. In PvE I prefer the control, blinds and chunkiness of GS and the range of Swords, so I'm a bit underwhelmed with it in open world and haven't tried it in instance content. I think it could use some range increase on skills #2 and #3. If they added a ranged auto like revenant, thief or ranger have I would totally slot it in, but it might be too much balance-wise. Great vids! Keep them up!
Necro really suffers from Anets decision to move away from elite specs IMO. After being underwhelmed with the spear and both swords being added to my main class in a year, I realized what I'm really experiencing is that my weapons largely do not matter, especially on Reaper and Harb. The class is ALL about shroud, and what your weapons do during the 10 sec CD is really just about generating enough life force so you can be in shroud more. No new shrouds (or ways to augment your shroud via your weapon choice) means any weapon updates to the class will end up feeling underwhelming (to me), because the class honestly cares less about its weapons than any other class. Would it have been nice if this weapon was a new condi melee weapon instead of Greatsword 2? Or an actual support / healer weapon since necro has none? Sure, and I think most people will agree it should have been. But it still can not come close to feeling as good as other classes because what necros really care about is the profession mechanic above all else. Whether I'm using greatsword or spear on Reaper, I still want to just be swinging my scythe for 75% of the combat.
suffering from success, reapers scythe is too damn satisfying and powerful to use compared to anything else, which all just function as buffer skills. I don't know what the solution to this is.. Then again, a lot of classes make significant use of their class abilities, so relying on shroud does seem normal
Personally I just wish sword was stronger as a ranged option or the spear was the ranged option for power builds. It can be nasty out there with the boon corruption/condi spam fields the new mobs are dropping all over the floor.
@@KROOF I tested it just a little bit last night, not sure I could tell if it had any added impact. I tried watching the combat log for the heal numbers. Was difficult for me to really tell which ones were due to lifesteal. In any case, the relic says it increases lifesteal heal/damage by 15%. Whether that's a sufficient amount for this relic to be better than another one, I'll leave that to the number crunchers to determine.
Try using the Atrocity relic with shouts and ripper trait Augury of death. Yr soul is mine - yr all weaklings - rise - spectral gasp - chilled to the bone.
@@didoma73 easy : 1. animation wise its the worst 2. gameplay deisgen they attach spear abilitis to stelth ( while the effect of this skills from steatlh are so minor its not even worth to dedicate or build around stealth for it 3. not really high though just concept , druid is no where near power dps and druid is litteraly the only one spec that can give you stealth if you want to maximazed spear. 4.anet nerfs pets aka smokescale for pet variant while now if you want to maximaized stealth you have to take jaguar so glad spear is trash in that regard ..
It feels a bit like a worse greatsword. The skill 2 has a 8 seconds cooldown and does slightly less damage than gravedigger. Also, it only hits 3 targets, while gravedigger hits 5 and resets its cooldown if it hits a target under 50% hp. Don`t get me wrong, the spear is fun, but using it over other weapons is questionable. Maybe for wvw roaming (the teleport and boonstrip can be nice).
It does less damage but also has insane healing/sustain and can reset more often with your 4th skill and coming out of shroud on top of added mobility. It's a great weapon and can easily be a good second set with the Great Sword.
@@didoma73 it’s a buff that pops up on your buff bar. A bit difficult to read ngl. They are also summoned around your player character as well, so you can visually count them. Lol 😂
After rewatching, I kind of understand why anet nerf scourge so they could make support weapon for necro Since I don’t get really what’s spear add to the class
Unfortunately, there is about a 8k-10k dps difference between Spear and GS (12k/20k above 50% or 15k/28k below 50%). I'm not sure if I'm doing Spear wrong, but using 2 to shred all my shards than instantly having max shards again while waiting for it's cooldown kinda feels bad. I kind of wish there was a refresh timer somehow. Maybe 2 decreases it's cooldown by 1 for every hit boosted by a shard, or if you have max shards every auto lowers its cooldown by a second. It would help it keep pace with the Greatsword's Grave Digger which is just leagues better than spear IMO. And the auto attack chain resets Grave Digger.
@@villahermosasebastian8794 Ah, I'll have to try putting that into my rotation. Still feels clunky but might be better dps than what I've been getting. I guess the rotation for Spear would be Stack > Perforate > Isolate & Distress > Perforate > Shroud?
Been running harbinger alot. Formally reaper mainly. The damage across longer fights is highly noticeable. Reaper has better burst but I think it goes well with spear due to the life siphon. A quickness harbinger build is what I run. Feels great.
I like it quite a bit in PVE, but it is really hard to use well in PVP. Still learning it, but I am pretty disappointed in the competitive side for reaper spear so far.
These companies/Devs just toss all this stuff in the game for each class, but what they don't do is consider the balance of each against all other classes. WvW is a mess because of bad concepts and when you factor in the cheaters, all it takes is an MMO that does it right and GW2 is abandoned. I'm hoping Throne and Liberty will do several things right that GW2 does wrong. "TnL" doesn't have to be perfect, because no MMO is, just not broken to the point it's pointless to play. If Throne of Liberty does those key things right that GW2 does wrong, it will be the best MMO on the market featuring PvP. If it fails on those key factors, then it will fail as an MMO. Players are not going to change MMOs for more of the same or worst.
I feel like a lot of people are really underestimating or otherwise underselling this weapon. It's HELLA bursty if you take advantage of the CD Reset on Perforate by popping Distress, and it's basically Greatsword: The Sequel in terms of damage and functionality.
It's an excellent choice for Power Reaper setups and I love how Extirpate and Perforate feel to use. The wide-arc swing and magic circle on Extirpate and the lots of little numbers popping up in addition to the sound direction on Perforate are immensely satisfying.
It's also got a VICIOUS "Execute" threshold where it just *melts* things below 50% HP on top of Reaper already capitalizing on passive bonuses to enemies within the Execute threshold.
Excellent weapon. Good shit and I love it.
As a Power Reaper main this is the best summing up I've seen. It's GS with a teleport and unlike Gravedigger you really just need to tap 2 rather than spam it. Slapped a Superior Sigil of Force on there for +5% damage and with Relic of Fireworks triggered for another +5% it melts enemies. Me like.
@@ThatGaudyFox you get the pin of truth - cause you spoke it!
For Reaper, best case, it's a sidegrade to Dagger/Sword for pve. Personally, for open worlds I would rather stick with sword/sword.
@@KROOF I'm currently playing with an ascended land spear for my revenant herald/renegade main plus maxe/axe as second set. I just got this "simple" version as an ascended weapon after making the matching story progress. I'm totally excited about this new land weapon and I`m looking forward to get this weapon for my other classes.
@@jimdandytheboss I go sword/sword and spear and it's a nice combo. Especially seeing we have the third option of shroud skills. Spear has quickly become my melee weapon of choice.
I'm currently having lots of funzies with Spear/Swords Harb in PvP. In PvE I prefer the control, blinds and chunkiness of GS and the range of Swords, so I'm a bit underwhelmed with it in open world and haven't tried it in instance content.
I think it could use some range increase on skills #2 and #3. If they added a ranged auto like revenant, thief or ranger have I would totally slot it in, but it might be too much balance-wise.
Great vids! Keep them up!
Necro really suffers from Anets decision to move away from elite specs IMO. After being underwhelmed with the spear and both swords being added to my main class in a year, I realized what I'm really experiencing is that my weapons largely do not matter, especially on Reaper and Harb. The class is ALL about shroud, and what your weapons do during the 10 sec CD is really just about generating enough life force so you can be in shroud more. No new shrouds (or ways to augment your shroud via your weapon choice) means any weapon updates to the class will end up feeling underwhelming (to me), because the class honestly cares less about its weapons than any other class.
Would it have been nice if this weapon was a new condi melee weapon instead of Greatsword 2? Or an actual support / healer weapon since necro has none? Sure, and I think most people will agree it should have been. But it still can not come close to feeling as good as other classes because what necros really care about is the profession mechanic above all else. Whether I'm using greatsword or spear on Reaper, I still want to just be swinging my scythe for 75% of the combat.
suffering from success, reapers scythe is too damn satisfying and powerful to use compared to anything else, which all just function as buffer skills. I don't know what the solution to this is.. Then again, a lot of classes make significant use of their class abilities, so relying on shroud does seem normal
Personally I just wish sword was stronger as a ranged option or the spear was the ranged option for power builds. It can be nasty out there with the boon corruption/condi spam fields the new mobs are dropping all over the floor.
You do such a good job! Big fan!
Would Relic of Atrocity be good here? Sounds like it would be great sustain, with increased lifesteal damage too.
@@Oatmeal-Savage it most likely would be pretty fun. 😁
@@KROOF I tested it just a little bit last night, not sure I could tell if it had any added impact. I tried watching the combat log for the heal numbers. Was difficult for me to really tell which ones were due to lifesteal. In any case, the relic says it increases lifesteal heal/damage by 15%. Whether that's a sufficient amount for this relic to be better than another one, I'll leave that to the number crunchers to determine.
Try using the Atrocity relic with shouts and ripper trait Augury of death. Yr soul is mine - yr all weaklings - rise - spectral gasp - chilled to the bone.
Would love Ranger next! Especially untamed! :)
Spear is underwhelming for Ranger; watch Muk's take on it
@@didoma73 yeah that’s how I’m feeling with it so far! Sticking with axe/warhorn and GS for now!
Spear on ranger is wrong at some many levels
@@nirsamra9016 what are those levels?
@@didoma73 easy : 1. animation wise its the worst 2. gameplay deisgen they attach spear abilitis to stelth ( while the effect of this skills from steatlh are so minor its not even worth to dedicate or build around stealth for it 3. not really high though just concept , druid is no where near power dps and druid is litteraly the only one spec that can give you stealth if you want to maximazed spear. 4.anet nerfs pets aka smokescale for pet variant while now if you want to maximaized stealth you have to take jaguar
so glad spear is trash in that regard ..
Very informative videos, Kroof. Thank you =)
It feels a bit like a worse greatsword. The skill 2 has a 8 seconds cooldown and does slightly less damage than gravedigger. Also, it only hits 3 targets, while gravedigger hits 5 and resets its cooldown if it hits a target under 50% hp. Don`t get me wrong, the spear is fun, but using it over other weapons is questionable. Maybe for wvw roaming (the teleport and boonstrip can be nice).
My exact same feeling.
It does less damage but also has insane healing/sustain and can reset more often with your 4th skill and coming out of shroud on top of added mobility. It's a great weapon and can easily be a good second set with the Great Sword.
Thief would be great. I love the weapon but I feel like I'm hitting like a wet noodle.
Relic of reaper does aoe chill when using shouts
how do you track how many soul shards you have accrued?
@@didoma73 it’s a buff that pops up on your buff bar. A bit difficult to read ngl. They are also summoned around your player character as well, so you can visually count them. Lol 😂
As more I play this weapon it will get second nature for me to create- and spend these shards
Its the big green spiky things around you character.
After rewatching, I kind of understand why anet nerf scourge so they could make support weapon for necro
Since I don’t get really what’s spear add to the class
Unfortunately, there is about a 8k-10k dps difference between Spear and GS (12k/20k above 50% or 15k/28k below 50%). I'm not sure if I'm doing Spear wrong, but using 2 to shred all my shards than instantly having max shards again while waiting for it's cooldown kinda feels bad.
I kind of wish there was a refresh timer somehow. Maybe 2 decreases it's cooldown by 1 for every hit boosted by a shard, or if you have max shards every auto lowers its cooldown by a second. It would help it keep pace with the Greatsword's Grave Digger which is just leagues better than spear IMO. And the auto attack chain resets Grave Digger.
You reset the 2 cd with the 4 teleport
@@villahermosasebastian8794 Ah, I'll have to try putting that into my rotation. Still feels clunky but might be better dps than what I've been getting.
I guess the rotation for Spear would be
Stack > Perforate > Isolate & Distress > Perforate > Shroud?
@@VirtuesOfSin pretty much. From open world perspective tho I go isolate and precast extirpate into distress and then either addle or perforate
Been running harbinger alot. Formally reaper mainly. The damage across longer fights is highly noticeable. Reaper has better burst but I think it goes well with spear due to the life siphon. A quickness harbinger build is what I run. Feels great.
Nice video. What graphics mod do you use? Looks very clean.
Using ReShade. :D
@@KROOF nice can you share your settings? I also use reshade but I have a different look and feel
Can you do the thief next please?
I have a couple classes backlogged -- but Thief will be the very next one I record!
thank you
Wish they would go vack to ranged necro.
thief next! :) Its a challange
Mesmer next please :)
I like it quite a bit in PVE, but it is really hard to use well in PVP. Still learning it, but I am pretty disappointed in the competitive side for reaper spear so far.
These companies/Devs just toss all this stuff in the game for each class, but what they don't do is consider the balance of each against all other classes. WvW is a mess because of bad concepts and when you factor in the cheaters, all it takes is an MMO that does it right and GW2 is abandoned.
I'm hoping Throne and Liberty will do several things right that GW2 does wrong. "TnL" doesn't have to be perfect, because no MMO is, just not broken to the point it's pointless to play. If Throne of Liberty does those key things right that GW2 does wrong, it will be the best MMO on the market featuring PvP. If it fails on those key factors, then it will fail as an MMO.
Players are not going to change MMOs for more of the same or worst.