In my opinion, Zywoo is calmest and most consistent player, Donk is the future of riflers, absolutely insane skill, and M0nesy has best raw mechanical skill.
Lol zywoo has carried far worst team mates than m0nesy. Go watch zywoo early careers. M0nesy is not even close to zywoo. Zywoo 2019 alone solos entire career of m0nesy.
- donk most likely to get #3 by many but still has some chance anyway despite latest set back a bit in many early exit from Playoff (and he need to play more to at least show a bit more) - m0nesy is the most popular choice to be 1# by many because of hard carry like playstyle like his idol. He is the sole S+ Tier player in term of winning condition for the team undoubtedly (Most of the time when he didn't do well, the team could struggle) - ZywOo most likely to get despite not win that much. He so consistency even not reaching top 2 in many tournament, that's say something (sometime he doesn't even need to do everything but still get rather good stat and still come on top quite often tbh)
@@mikestar7326 Navi makes it to finale because they are a phenomenal team players. This is after they kicked s1mple. Because this is a team game; not being able to carry your teams to finals isn't disappearing in every game lol, especially with zywoo's easy top 3 performance this year.
@SerendipitousProvidence also with s1mple they were starting to get going and he took a break, it amazes me how stupid people are, put s1mple instead of wonderful and they win every final they lost, against vitality wonderful missed every shot s1mple would have hit those shot, but then again when you have a double digit IQ there isn't much you can do
People really forgetting that every single player on g2 was lacking except monesy for the first half of the year. Nexa and hooxi were both liabilities and niko and hunter were both going through slumps in performance until Dallas. There's a genuine argument to be made that if g2 were even 5% better that they would have taken the major which i think would have undoubtedly made monesy number 1 this year
The fact that donk is doing it with the rifle seals the deal for me. Monesy is not just a bit behind in terms of stats or trophies but in fact a whole lot in comparaison. Zywoo as said in the video has only one big trophy and MVP. Donk in one tournament had a much better rating + doing it while rifling. No doubt in my mind, donk should be #1. Please let me know if im missing anything or if you can think of any counter arguments.
exaclty, people forget donk is rifling and that spirit is the worse team out of vitlaity g2, spirit has sh1ro and donk thats it, and even then sh1ro can go missing, zont1x was present for like 3 events (kato dallas spring final) if you dont include blast groups and betboom belgrade which most poeple dont consider worhty of mentioning and donk has 2 big event mvps and a great major so i think he is still #1 unless he flops the last 2 events of the year
- ZywOo is mostly a rifler - ZywOo is much more consistent - ZywOo is the best rated player against top5 teams while Donk is mostly playing against Tier 2 opposition like The Mongolz
@@stanislash.4732 wow 0.01 - 0.02 rating difference whilst donk has higher kpr vs top 5 mate ur a delusional zywoo stan, look further into the stats, donk only has a low rating casuse he dies way more vs top 5 due to his role
@@sh1nenkai258 Donk also played less maps against top5, this has a big impact on his stats considering his excellent beginning of the year I agree the difference is thin, but not negligeable
pimp the thing you are wrong about: since vitality play alot of inferno and that means zywoo saves alot, he can keep his rating high even in the bad games because he is saving, thats why whe nhe plays bad on inferno he can still have a good rating cause his dpr is lower, and he gets saving kills at end of round to boost the kd the reason why real people arent rating zywoo top 1 is because his worst events was the major and katowice, the most important events of the year, and his cologne mvp is impressive but he actually peformed worse then his average that event so it is less impressive then donk or m0nesy's mvp's stats wise, also in every game vitality loses in playoffs other then cologne and recent epl, he disappeared in 3rd map (by his standards) u said donk had a bad blast groupstage but he had 1.4 rating 0.9kpr in blast groups, unless u meant groupstage of the fall final then id understand, also you forget to mention he is an aggressive rifler and that it is way harder to have a good rating while being in that role, so the fact he is rated higher then zywoo and m0nesy is super impressive, also he had a great major 0.9kpr 1.33 rating, not to mention his kpr is way higher then both m0nesy and zywoo, its just his dpr is also way higher so some events where he has a low rating by his standards, if you look at the purest stat kpr, he is still outputting like 0.78 kpr for example at a 1.15 rated blast fall final which if zywoo had that kpr he'd have like a 1.2 rating cause he dies way less due to the nature of his role and you forgot to mention donk has been good outside of the katoiwce, you only mention katowice as the pure reason why he is even in the convo but you forgot he won mvp of blast spring final having 0.88 kpr and great major as i mentioned above ill give you ur props, ur arguement for m0nesy is accurate aside from i disagree that he has more impact then donk, the fact g2 went to the final of esports world cup and 5-8th of first proleague with m0nesy not having 0.8kpr and 1.3 rating means that he didn thave to do as much there mean while spirit aside from dallas has never gone far without donk having 0.8 kpr (i dont count 5-6th at blast finals as a good result cause they only need to win 1 bo3 to get that placing) my current top 3 before blast worlds and the major is 1.donk 2. m0nesy 3. zywoo here's why: donk hardest role, has the best overall stat and highest kpr by quite a margin, his katowice mvp is the best individual peformance in all of cs history, he has blast mvp aswell, his major peformance was 0.9kpr aka prime s1mple numbers and i think highest impact and eyetest, and his team is the worse out of g2 vitality m0nesy is 2nd cause in all 3 big events this year he has had over 0.8 kpr, 1.3 ratings in each of them, he has an mvp at dallas where he diffed zywoo in the grand finals, his eye test is 2nd best behind donk and his team is the 2nd worse (u could argue this current g2 has more firepower but i think the calling and coaching sets it back from vitality) zywoo is 3rd because of his katowice and major peformance, all the zywoo stans will tell you he is 1v9 and that flamez spinx mezii and apex are trash but i disagree, apex calls 90% of the time well, he also can frag like a non igl at times and who else is better hten apex that isnt already in a top team and is not going anywhere???, flamez is a bonafide top 10 player, he peforms better on stage and has carried some series in playoffs like vs c9 at major, vs faze at blast spring, spinx recently has regained his form and is stilil a top 4 lurker, mezii does all the bitch roles and can entry and clutch when needed, vitality is hte best team out of the 3 and also zywoo's mvp at cologne was less impressive then donk and id say in isolation less then m0nesy but cause its cologne its better slightly but this list can change based of the shanghai major and world finals, if zywoo wins mvp of major then ill have no choice but to put him #1 unless donk or m0nesy outpeforms him at majro but maybe doesnt win mvp
Absolutely legendary comment btw. You have donk as #1, and yes, perhaps is impact is more (which is a fair reason to rate him #1 obviously but it’s also hard for me because perhaps monesy would be a more impactful player given spirits roster 🤷🏻♂️) but I think there’s an argument to be made for technical ability. Monesys technical ability and knowledge has always been why I’ve thought there’s a solid argument in his direction. In my opinion, raw skill wise I’m taking monesy. Perhaps he is just the “flashier player”???? I also understand that the #1 player doesn’t just mean raw skill, but in my opinion, it’s the most important for selecting “best player” but it really depends on how you truly define a true #1 player. Would like to see monesys stats with spirit as his team 🤔. Monesy best individual player to me
@@Evan_MFPLUG thats where you are wrong, g2's roster is way better then spirit other then igl on g2 u got 4 players who can take over on spirit u only got 2, zont1x isnt a take over guy he is an impact player but on g2 as u saw in grand final u got niko 2.0 rating 2nd map and hunter 2.0 rating 3rd map, like all m0nesy did was trade and secure some clutches in map 1, he wasnt take over m0nesy, even snax went positive so the team case is in favour of donk cause he has to carry more and his team is more inexperience, u saw donk dropping 21 kills in 20 rounds on map 3 and still losing 13-7, and on map 1 if not for that 4k deagle spirit woulda lost 13-3 in my opinion its 1a 1b for donk m0nesy and the clear 3rd is teh ghost of map 3 zywoo ofc the major is the decider but ithink as of rn im slightly leaning towards donk because he still did good in the final and was the only reason why spirit even got some rounds, i remember on that mirage t side donk had 2 entries, 1 on pistol and 1 on some gun round on b yet they still lost all their t side rounds, like what more does donk have to do
@@sh1nenkai258 You make a good point, and is why I said I am curious to see monesy's impact if he were playing for a team like spirit. Either way tho, I agree with zywoo definite 3rd palce, and the major will decide it. G2 rolled spirit twice this past week on a stage tho so...
If the year ended right now I'd give it to Donk I think, but I think Zywoo is playing better in the last couple months, and history seems to suggest winter Zywoo is a thing, and so I would not be shocked if he created some separation and made himself a reasonably clear 1. So I think Donk right now for me has a lead in the race for player of the year, but with more bias for recent form Zywoo is the best player in the world.
Donk god...faceit 5k elo...2024 best rifler..donk is #1..also he is an entry fragger and rifler..his job is more hard compared to awpers like zywoo and monesy...xd..donk just needs a good team and he will be unstoppable 💸
@@ScamminANDhammin its not fair to expect 1.70 rating consistently on a rifle. Hes still very consistent for the level hes playing at. Awpers can be much more consistent and score high ratings much easier.
Given how aggresive the game has become, I would say that it's now harder to be an awper than rifler, that's why most of the players in top 10 are riflers... It would be more impresive in csgo than now in cs2
@JC_Firestor sh1ro, wonderful top 10, i don't think so. dpr of donk is bad, but him impact is a lot .the entris or opening is a penalized role for stats of player, sh1ro is not top 4, due to the navi season, sorry for my english.
@@bayronmanjarres9601 no problem, your English is fine. I said *most* of top 10 are riflers not all, it's like 4 awpers and 6 riflers if I remember correctly
Stat wise there may be a big gap... but in terms of impact, i would say that JL is the best. His stats are just not as inflated, because he has good teammates around him.
Monesy 120% the things he is able to achieve and do is crazy and he has been playing like a beast the entire year (unlike donk who was slowly falling off after Katowice and Zywoo who has been on a rollercoster of ups and downs) Most of the G2 match-ups (if not all) against spirit and vitality went to G2, with monesy having individual fights against both players and winning most of the time!! Edit: so for me it's Monesy > Zywoo > Donk
blad3 or robban lol u either go the system approach or you let them loose and have like a karrigan igl loose system with the most motivational and emtional support coach ever to keep tghe vibes up for themn to peform better individually
the navi plays only recently gotten this good and even then none of them can touch donk zywoo m0nesy levels for more then 2 events you could argue jL on stage is as good (even then he had a bad bo5 cologne final) or b1t's impact/eyetest is as good but thats only really inferno tbh infact id argue b1t is the best inferno player in the world in the last 4 moniths ish
Let's be honest here if any of these guys bomb out at the major the jL could take their spot. If he gets the MVP of the next two events he could even be #1. Not saying either is likely but it's insane that there's even a chance for a 4th player
@@lucasmcnamee3658 not denying he is highly impactful to navi’s system which is letting them win so much, but it wouldn’t be enough for the rest of the year to get into the top 3 without doing as described in the next two tournaments
I think Zywoo is number one, m0nesy two and Donk 3 followed really close by Xantares. If Spirit falls off again and Xantares has another nasty showing then he will be top 3.
Xantares isn’t top 4 lol, very low likely hood EF win the next 2 S tier events, sh1ro has also performed better at big events on LAN this year, with better results as a team aswell, and more maps
@@a1m.. I've been a sh1ro fan since the the gambit days and his ceiling is so high but when you have donk sticking out for your frags the AWP is gonna fall off sadly. I dont doubt sh1ros ability but the team he is on just won't get him the numbers. You might be right about xantares i just like when people are outliars on their team. Biguzera for example i think Is an underrated player also
How is G2 the worst team ? They've won 2 big titles, which is more than Vita or Spirit, plus they are like in semies of almost any tournament. Yes they have some horrendous exits here and there, but are more consistent with deep runs on big events. And it is mostly because of m0NESY. I may be biased towards that rusky kid, but come on now, comparing m0NESY and D0nk is a massive disrespect towards m0NESY. If anything m0NESY's team had more succsses, he is more imactfull, more consistent, his teqm is more consistent and after all top2 on hLTV. Saying G2 has been worse than Vita or Spirit is mad, since they have more big titles, and more deep runs on big events, and to be perfectly honest they have highee potential with m0NESY himself and NiKo to add more trophies than Vitallity or Spirit. So yeah I would kindly have to disagree with what u said. Again I might be G2 biased, but the thing that they have more titles, and more deep runs on big events is just a fact, and that's why they are 2nd rated team itw right now.
I Think I'd put JL on 3rd, Donk on 4ft, Zywoo on 2nd and trophy goes to M0nesy #1. Donk need to step up and if he do he will overtake 3rd place for me.
Donk is definitely better than jL lol, jL would require donk to perform very bad in the next 2 events, and he’d need to get another mvp or very good ratings in the next 2 events
I think the difference between the best individual player and best team member can’t be overstated enough. The best individual player in the world could be winning nothing by their play style, but the best team player could win without the best stats.
Vitality's team structure, coaching staff, and IGL are light years ahead of G2 and Spirit's so I don't really agree with ZywOo being #1. He has the luxury to take maps off meanwhile m0nesy was stuck with hooxi and nexa for half a year, leading him to be forced to do more.
G2 is currently way better than vitality. While vita is worse than g2 right now. Spirit was also better than vita in the first half. Vita isn't the best team like they where last yr. I would say g2>vita>spirit as of right now. Niko and malbs r way better than any vita player except zywoo.
Vitality coaching staff when it comes to recruiting : "See this star player ? Let's change his roles completely and make him an entry fragger on T side and a B player on CT side, what could go wrong ?"
hmmm the guy who has been number 1 on hltv for 5 years and in completely diff eras or a guy who just started pro this year and a guy who hasn’t won a major yet
he started in 2018, that’s 6 years ago and that’s during a time CS shifted completely and became MUCH harder of a game and way more explored than it was before that. He has also claimed 3 #1 ranked player in HLTV so idk what the argument of him not playing “75%” of csgo pro when pro really only became truly competitive was 2017 and onward.
i agree with u cant call him goat of cs but i dont agree with the 75% one, id like to argue a different point that cause of online play cause him winning 2020 #1 is because his team was better online then s1mple's navi, if u looked at the stats s1mple was way better on lan that year and had kato mvp, and KPR wise was higher then zywoo but hltv rating is bullshit so they have the same rating despipte s1mple having more kills per round but for me he aint gonna be the goat until he wins a major mvp vs top 5 teams with historic numbers like s1mple did, win cologne/katowice mvp with historic numbers, remember this recent cologne for zywoo was actually below his average, he averages like 1.32 at big events this year but had 1.29 and less kpr then his average, meanwhile wehen s1mple won his mvp it was like 1.51 rating and 1.37 in 2018with 0.9 kpr thats why zywoo wont be goat, his peak isnt as high as s1mlpe and definelty his peak at prestigue events isnt as high but lets not keep comparing zywoo to goat, that is ruining his play, if zywoo stans stop saying he is the goat and his team is trash then we'd be in a world where we appreciate zywoo so much more cause im in love with his game style and how it looks so effortless, but the stans ruin it for me trying to distort the truth and history
@@sh1nenkai258Navi was better team than vita in 2020. Also zywoo got robbed in 2022 because of s1mple having better team mates too. Zywoo right now should have 4x top 1. But s1mple robbed zywoo in 2022.
Team game I pick Twistz bc he’s NiKo on the AK but a winner with winning dna and knows how to win-pressure Donk is not and Zyeoo is a prodigy but is a team player and Monesy is starting to get stained by loser ectoplasm of ChoKo the Clown. Monesy would win the 1v3 clutch ftw
@@sh1nenkai258zywoo is way better than m0nesy overall. Zywoo has more trophies,MVP,and top 1 and also player of the yr award. Donk vs m0nesy r comparable not m0nesy vs zywoo.
In my opinion, Zywoo is calmest and most consistent player, Donk is the future of riflers, absolutely insane skill, and M0nesy has best raw mechanical skill.
To be honest,I would pick M0nesy,I think he is individually best
Zywoo is better
Overrated tbh.
Zywoo and donk better.
I would like to see zywoo be put into the positions that G2 forces m0nesy into and play even close to as well.
Facts!!
G2 gives m0nesy 100% freedom. ZywOo has had to carry marginally worse teams than the G2 rosters m0nesy has to it with this year.
Lol zywoo has carried far worst team mates than m0nesy. Go watch zywoo early careers. M0nesy is not even close to zywoo. Zywoo 2019 alone solos entire career of m0nesy.
G2 has a much better team, zywoo has to carry more than money
@@tracialxit you’re are basing it strictly on fire power sure but the igl is so important and apex is wayyyy better than snax
1. Zywho
2. Mayonnaise
3. Dunk
Unless Donk shows his form again or zywoo does terribly in upcoming tournaments or Monesy has a some stellar showings
- donk most likely to get #3 by many but still has some chance anyway despite latest set back a bit in many early exit from Playoff (and he need to play more to at least show a bit more)
- m0nesy is the most popular choice to be 1# by many because of hard carry like playstyle like his idol. He is the sole S+ Tier player in term of winning condition for the team undoubtedly (Most of the time when he didn't do well, the team could struggle)
- ZywOo most likely to get despite not win that much. He so consistency even not reaching top 2 in many tournament, that's say something (sometime he doesn't even need to do everything but still get rather good stat and still come on top quite often tbh)
Bro zywoo disappears in every by game or map they need to win that's why they dont make finals like navi
@@mikestar7326 Navi makes it to finale because they are a phenomenal team players. This is after they kicked s1mple. Because this is a team game; not being able to carry your teams to finals isn't disappearing in every game lol, especially with zywoo's easy top 3 performance this year.
@@mikestar7326tell me u have no knowledge about pro cs without telling me u have no knowledge about pro cs.
@@SerendipitousProvidence so are you saying that zywoo doesn't have a golf team? Are you crazy they have more talent than Navi
@SerendipitousProvidence also with s1mple they were starting to get going and he took a break, it amazes me how stupid people are, put s1mple instead of wonderful and they win every final they lost, against vitality wonderful missed every shot s1mple would have hit those shot, but then again when you have a double digit IQ there isn't much you can do
Monesy has the most flair by far
Who would u pick as of right now?!
Zywoo
Monesy
Jeg vil nok sige det er mig
Monesy
Monesy
Donk > monesy = zywoo
by results, JL
So by results device was better than simple?
+1
zywoo>monsey=donk=jL
Zywoo or donk most likely.
People really forgetting that every single player on g2 was lacking except monesy for the first half of the year. Nexa and hooxi were both liabilities and niko and hunter were both going through slumps in performance until Dallas. There's a genuine argument to be made that if g2 were even 5% better that they would have taken the major which i think would have undoubtedly made monesy number 1 this year
The fact that donk is doing it with the rifle seals the deal for me. Monesy is not just a bit behind in terms of stats or trophies but in fact a whole lot in comparaison. Zywoo as said in the video has only one big trophy and MVP. Donk in one tournament had a much better rating + doing it while rifling. No doubt in my mind, donk should be #1.
Please let me know if im missing anything or if you can think of any counter arguments.
exaclty, people forget donk is rifling and that spirit is the worse team out of vitlaity g2, spirit has sh1ro and donk thats it, and even then sh1ro can go missing, zont1x was present for like 3 events (kato dallas spring final) if you dont include blast groups and betboom belgrade which most poeple dont consider worhty of mentioning
and donk has 2 big event mvps and a great major so i think he is still #1 unless he flops the last 2 events of the year
facts
- ZywOo is mostly a rifler
- ZywOo is much more consistent
- ZywOo is the best rated player against top5 teams while Donk is mostly playing against Tier 2 opposition like The Mongolz
@@stanislash.4732 wow 0.01 - 0.02 rating difference whilst donk has higher kpr vs top 5
mate ur a delusional zywoo stan, look further into the stats, donk only has a low rating casuse he dies way more vs top 5 due to his role
@@sh1nenkai258 Donk also played less maps against top5, this has a big impact on his stats considering his excellent beginning of the year
I agree the difference is thin, but not negligeable
monesy is mechanically the best, donk is insanely sharp rifler, but zywoo's gamesense, positioning and understanding of the game is unmatched
pimp the thing you are wrong about:
since vitality play alot of inferno and that means zywoo saves alot, he can keep his rating high even in the bad games because he is saving, thats why whe nhe plays bad on inferno he can still have a good rating cause his dpr is lower, and he gets saving kills at end of round to boost the kd
the reason why real people arent rating zywoo top 1 is because his worst events was the major and katowice, the most important events of the year, and his cologne mvp is impressive but he actually peformed worse then his average that event so it is less impressive then donk or m0nesy's mvp's stats wise, also in every game vitality loses in playoffs other then cologne and recent epl, he disappeared in 3rd map (by his standards)
u said donk had a bad blast groupstage but he had 1.4 rating 0.9kpr in blast groups, unless u meant groupstage of the fall final then id understand, also you forget to mention he is an aggressive rifler and that it is way harder to have a good rating while being in that role, so the fact he is rated higher then zywoo and m0nesy is super impressive, also he had a great major 0.9kpr 1.33 rating, not to mention his kpr is way higher then both m0nesy and zywoo, its just his dpr is also way higher so some events where he has a low rating by his standards, if you look at the purest stat kpr, he is still outputting like 0.78 kpr for example at a 1.15 rated blast fall final which if zywoo had that kpr he'd have like a 1.2 rating cause he dies way less due to the nature of his role
and you forgot to mention donk has been good outside of the katoiwce, you only mention katowice as the pure reason why he is even in the convo but you forgot he won mvp of blast spring final having 0.88 kpr and great major as i mentioned above
ill give you ur props, ur arguement for m0nesy is accurate aside from i disagree that he has more impact then donk, the fact g2 went to the final of esports world cup and 5-8th of first proleague with m0nesy not having 0.8kpr and 1.3 rating means that he didn thave to do as much there mean while spirit aside from dallas has never gone far without donk having 0.8 kpr (i dont count 5-6th at blast finals as a good result cause they only need to win 1 bo3 to get that placing)
my current top 3 before blast worlds and the major is
1.donk
2. m0nesy
3. zywoo
here's why:
donk hardest role, has the best overall stat and highest kpr by quite a margin, his katowice mvp is the best individual peformance in all of cs history, he has blast mvp aswell, his major peformance was 0.9kpr aka prime s1mple numbers and i think highest impact and eyetest, and his team is the worse out of g2 vitality
m0nesy is 2nd cause in all 3 big events this year he has had over 0.8 kpr, 1.3 ratings in each of them, he has an mvp at dallas where he diffed zywoo in the grand finals, his eye test is 2nd best behind donk and his team is the 2nd worse (u could argue this current g2 has more firepower but i think the calling and coaching sets it back from vitality)
zywoo is 3rd because of his katowice and major peformance, all the zywoo stans will tell you he is 1v9 and that flamez spinx mezii and apex are trash but i disagree, apex calls 90% of the time well, he also can frag like a non igl at times and who else is better hten apex that isnt already in a top team and is not going anywhere???, flamez is a bonafide top 10 player, he peforms better on stage and has carried some series in playoffs like vs c9 at major, vs faze at blast spring, spinx recently has regained his form and is stilil a top 4 lurker, mezii does all the bitch roles and can entry and clutch when needed, vitality is hte best team out of the 3 and also zywoo's mvp at cologne was less impressive then donk and id say in isolation less then m0nesy but cause its cologne its better slightly
but this list can change based of the shanghai major and world finals, if zywoo wins mvp of major then ill have no choice but to put him #1 unless donk or m0nesy outpeforms him at majro but maybe doesnt win mvp
Absolutely legendary comment btw. You have donk as #1, and yes, perhaps is impact is more (which is a fair reason to rate him #1 obviously but it’s also hard for me because perhaps monesy would be a more impactful player given spirits roster 🤷🏻♂️) but I think there’s an argument to be made for technical ability. Monesys technical ability and knowledge has always been why I’ve thought there’s a solid argument in his direction. In my opinion, raw skill wise I’m taking monesy. Perhaps he is just the “flashier player”???? I also understand that the #1 player doesn’t just mean raw skill, but in my opinion, it’s the most important for selecting “best player” but it really depends on how you truly define a true #1 player. Would like to see monesys stats with spirit as his team 🤔. Monesy best individual player to me
rating 2.1 makes saving worse
Rating 2.1 changes this, saving is less rewarded stats wise
@@Evan_MFPLUG thats where you are wrong, g2's roster is way better then spirit other then igl
on g2 u got 4 players who can take over
on spirit u only got 2, zont1x isnt a take over guy he is an impact player
but on g2 as u saw in grand final u got niko 2.0 rating 2nd map and hunter 2.0 rating 3rd map, like all m0nesy did was trade and secure some clutches in map 1, he wasnt take over m0nesy, even snax went positive
so the team case is in favour of donk cause he has to carry more and his team is more inexperience, u saw donk dropping 21 kills in 20 rounds on map 3 and still losing 13-7, and on map 1 if not for that 4k deagle spirit woulda lost 13-3
in my opinion its 1a 1b for donk m0nesy
and the clear 3rd is teh ghost of map 3 zywoo
ofc the major is the decider but ithink as of rn im slightly leaning towards donk because he still did good in the final and was the only reason why spirit even got some rounds, i remember on that mirage t side donk had 2 entries, 1 on pistol and 1 on some gun round on b yet they still lost all their t side rounds, like what more does donk have to do
@@sh1nenkai258 You make a good point, and is why I said I am curious to see monesy's impact if he were playing for a team like spirit. Either way tho, I agree with zywoo definite 3rd palce, and the major will decide it. G2 rolled spirit twice this past week on a stage tho so...
Love the video but bro that camera shake at the beginning made it so hard to focus on what you were saying
why did you use that photo of Zywoo ??!! :(
😂😂
The absolute worst photo he could have found 😂
If the year ended right now I'd give it to Donk I think, but I think Zywoo is playing better in the last couple months, and history seems to suggest winter Zywoo is a thing, and so I would not be shocked if he created some separation and made himself a reasonably clear 1. So I think Donk right now for me has a lead in the race for player of the year, but with more bias for recent form Zywoo is the best player in the world.
Donk god...faceit 5k elo...2024 best rifler..donk is #1..also he is an entry fragger and rifler..his job is more hard compared to awpers like zywoo and monesy...xd..donk just needs a good team and he will be unstoppable 💸
Lets address the elephant in the room however, donk is doing it on a rifle so thats a lot of extra credit for me.
But consistency
@@ScamminANDhammin its not fair to expect 1.70 rating consistently on a rifle. Hes still very consistent for the level hes playing at. Awpers can be much more consistent and score high ratings much easier.
Given how aggresive the game has become, I would say that it's now harder to be an awper than rifler, that's why most of the players in top 10 are riflers... It would be more impresive in csgo than now in cs2
@JC_Firestor sh1ro, wonderful top 10, i don't think so. dpr of donk is bad, but him impact is a lot .the entris or opening is a penalized role for stats of player, sh1ro is not top 4, due to the navi season, sorry for my english.
@@bayronmanjarres9601 no problem, your English is fine. I said *most* of top 10 are riflers not all, it's like 4 awpers and 6 riflers if I remember correctly
Stat wise there may be a big gap... but in terms of impact, i would say that JL is the best. His stats are just not as inflated, because he has good teammates around him.
Monesy 120% the things he is able to achieve and do is crazy and he has been playing like a beast the entire year (unlike donk who was slowly falling off after Katowice and Zywoo who has been on a rollercoster of ups and downs)
Most of the G2 match-ups (if not all) against spirit and vitality went to G2, with monesy having individual fights against both players and winning most of the time!!
Edit: so for me it's Monesy > Zywoo > Donk
With time, I genuinely think Donk and Monesy can be two of the best players oat
I gotta go Zywoo, the most consistent of the 3 imo
Zywoo is the best rn, Donk needs to join a better team and he could be the best for awhile
Most goated team possible: ZYWOO, DONK, M0NESY who else? Coached by__?
blad3 or robban lol
u either go the system approach or you let them loose and have like a karrigan igl loose system with the most motivational and emtional support coach ever to keep tghe vibes up for themn to peform better individually
What a ridiculous awp and secondary awp duo lol
noticing a lack of navi members
jL is their best player imo but he isn't close to m0nesy zywoo donk or xantates
the navi plays only recently gotten this good and even then none of them can touch donk zywoo m0nesy levels for more then 2 events
you could argue jL on stage is as good (even then he had a bad bo5 cologne final) or b1t's impact/eyetest is as good but thats only really inferno tbh infact id argue b1t is the best inferno player in the world in the last 4 moniths ish
Only way jL could enter this top 3 arguement is if he boasts an insane rating and atleast 1 more MVP in the next 2 events of the year
Zywoo now ... iM is coming (spoiler)
Hello team!
ZywOo
Monesy is the most “star” star player this year
M0nesy is individually the best
Zywoo has the worst playoff rating in the top3
Let's be honest here if any of these guys bomb out at the major the jL could take their spot. If he gets the MVP of the next two events he could even be #1.
Not saying either is likely but it's insane that there's even a chance for a 4th player
He wouldn’t get #1 or 2, but could snag 3, if they win rio, he gets mvp, and they lose the major but dont bomb out he has a chance
@@a1m.. it depends. I think jL's stats don't measure his impact nearly as well as some of the others on this list
@@lucasmcnamee3658 not denying he is highly impactful to navi’s system which is letting them win so much, but it wouldn’t be enough for the rest of the year to get into the top 3 without doing as described in the next two tournaments
Zywoo and its not even close.
Well that’s exaggerated
Sounds like an emotional comment
Exaggerating heavy
has to be monesy
I would say pimp 😉
zywho?
donk is best
monesy is best
zywoo is best
jL has more impact than any of those , 3 of those players performed because their team is ass
I think Zywoo is number one, m0nesy two and Donk 3 followed really close by Xantares. If Spirit falls off again and Xantares has another nasty showing then he will be top 3.
Xantares isn’t top 4 lol, very low likely hood EF win the next 2 S tier events, sh1ro has also performed better at big events on LAN this year, with better results as a team aswell, and more maps
@@a1m.. I've been a sh1ro fan since the the gambit days and his ceiling is so high but when you have donk sticking out for your frags the AWP is gonna fall off sadly. I dont doubt sh1ros ability but the team he is on just won't get him the numbers. You might be right about xantares i just like when people are outliars on their team. Biguzera for example i think Is an underrated player also
How is G2 the worst team ? They've won 2 big titles, which is more than Vita or Spirit, plus they are like in semies of almost any tournament. Yes they have some horrendous exits here and there, but are more consistent with deep runs on big events. And it is mostly because of m0NESY. I may be biased towards that rusky kid, but come on now, comparing m0NESY and D0nk is a massive disrespect towards m0NESY. If anything m0NESY's team had more succsses, he is more imactfull, more consistent, his teqm is more consistent and after all top2 on hLTV. Saying G2 has been worse than Vita or Spirit is mad, since they have more big titles, and more deep runs on big events, and to be perfectly honest they have highee potential with m0NESY himself and NiKo to add more trophies than Vitallity or Spirit. So yeah I would kindly have to disagree with what u said. Again I might be G2 biased, but the thing that they have more titles, and more deep runs on big events is just a fact, and that's why they are 2nd rated team itw right now.
I AM #1
I Think I'd put JL on 3rd, Donk on 4ft, Zywoo on 2nd and trophy goes to M0nesy #1. Donk need to step up and if he do he will overtake 3rd place for me.
Donk is definitely better than jL lol, jL would require donk to perform very bad in the next 2 events, and he’d need to get another mvp or very good ratings in the next 2 events
I think the difference between the best individual player and best team member can’t be overstated enough. The best individual player in the world could be winning nothing by their play style, but the best team player could win without the best stats.
Vitality's team structure, coaching staff, and IGL are light years ahead of G2 and Spirit's so I don't really agree with ZywOo being #1.
He has the luxury to take maps off meanwhile m0nesy was stuck with hooxi and nexa for half a year, leading him to be forced to do more.
G2 is currently way better than vitality. While vita is worse than g2 right now. Spirit was also better than vita in the first half. Vita isn't the best team like they where last yr. I would say g2>vita>spirit as of right now. Niko and malbs r way better than any vita player except zywoo.
Vitality coaching staff when it comes to recruiting :
"See this star player ? Let's change his roles completely and make him an entry fragger on T side and a B player on CT side, what could go wrong ?"
hmmm the guy who has been number 1 on hltv for 5 years and in completely diff eras or a guy who just started pro this year and a guy who hasn’t won a major yet
You can't call zywoo the goat of cs when he didn't play for 75% of csgo pro play
he started in 2018, that’s 6 years ago and that’s during a time CS shifted completely and became MUCH harder of a game and way more explored than it was before that. He has also claimed 3 #1 ranked player in HLTV so idk what the argument of him not playing “75%” of csgo pro when pro really only became truly competitive was 2017 and onward.
And still achieved more individual accolades than every player not named s1mple or dev1ce.
i agree with u cant call him goat of cs but i dont agree with the 75% one, id like to argue a different point that cause of online play
cause him winning 2020 #1 is because his team was better online then s1mple's navi, if u looked at the stats s1mple was way better on lan that year and had kato mvp, and KPR wise was higher then zywoo but hltv rating is bullshit so they have the same rating despipte s1mple having more kills per round
but for me he aint gonna be the goat until he wins a major mvp vs top 5 teams with historic numbers like s1mple did, win cologne/katowice mvp with historic numbers, remember this recent cologne for zywoo was actually below his average, he averages like 1.32 at big events this year but had 1.29 and less kpr then his average, meanwhile wehen s1mple won his mvp it was like 1.51 rating and 1.37 in 2018with 0.9 kpr
thats why zywoo wont be goat, his peak isnt as high as s1mlpe and definelty his peak at prestigue events isnt as high
but lets not keep comparing zywoo to goat, that is ruining his play, if zywoo stans stop saying he is the goat and his team is trash then we'd be in a world where we appreciate zywoo so much more cause im in love with his game style and how it looks so effortless, but the stans ruin it for me trying to distort the truth and history
@@sh1nenkai258Navi was better team than vita in 2020. Also zywoo got robbed in 2022 because of s1mple having better team mates too. Zywoo right now should have 4x top 1. But s1mple robbed zywoo in 2022.
@@sh1nenkai258who cares about ur opinion zywoo is already got of cs. S1mple was only good in csgo while zywoo is good both in csgo+CS2 combine.
Team game I pick Twistz bc he’s NiKo on the AK but a winner with winning dna and knows how to win-pressure
Donk is not and Zyeoo is a prodigy but is a team player and Monesy is starting to get stained by loser ectoplasm of ChoKo the Clown. Monesy would win the 1v3 clutch ftw
Answers it’s 12-11 1v3 vs VP Monesy wins the silverware via clutch factor via highlight
I like the Zywoo but anyone who actually watches and analyzes the games knows m0nesy is leagues above zywoo in everything but aim
The only thing m0nesy is clear cut better than ZywOo is awping. That’s about it.
@@AstroSully m0nesy is better in big games and big prestigue events then zywoo
@@sh1nenkai258zywoo is way better than m0nesy overall. Zywoo has more trophies,MVP,and top 1 and also player of the yr award. Donk vs m0nesy r comparable not m0nesy vs zywoo.