While I was aware there was a lore behind Planetside, I just worked under the assumption that the entire war boils down to what colour scheme everybody has to wear to the next NS Fashion Show.
VS did left Auraxis after achieving Hyperspeed with a Vanutec Ship powered by Beetlegeuses. TR had no Ammo left since their Bullets are still technology from our time leading them to experiment with Vanu tech and blowing themselves away leading Auraxis to a shitty state. Only NC is left and now they teamkill themselves for eternity in Planetdide Arena
And the ones who practice is the arts of the ShadeBae sacrificed themselves to ShadeBae and Daddy Drew so we could ascend and be reborn as. Nightshades, we secretly control the world and roam the universe, that’s why there isn’t Nightshades in PSA.
I think the lore is intentionally vague so none of the three factions appears clearly as the good or bad one. Either that or the devs perfectly knew that players would ignore the lore and assume that TR = Dictators and Authoritarians, NC = Greedy businessmen and Anarchists and VS = Mad scientists and fanatic cult members.
Battletech has extensive and detailed lore, and never once makes any faction (except occasionally Davion) out to be the objective good guys. I love Planetside, but the lore is only there to give you a semi-plausible reason to shoot at the guys in differently-colored armor.
I've always viewed it that the aliens are studying humans from afar, to absorb humans into their empire; likely as a warrior race. The whole planet is effectively a lab/stomping ground with each continent having mostly a single biome to test what kind of climates the tested species can preform in.
A bit late of a response, but I fully agree with this theory. Everything from how the wormholes worked, the reveal of the Vanu artifact, the sudden absorption of the exploratory fleet together with the collapse of the wormhole directly there-after, and that the only planet viable for terraforming just happened to have the super -advanced nanite technology that just happened to be readily reverse-engineerable by the human settlers; everything points to the Vanu intentionally drawing humanity to Auraxis. Hell, it may even be possible that the Vanu had a far more direct hand in the formation of the TR and the NC, just as they do with the VS (and probably the NS). Speaking of the VS, I hate them with a burning passion, but I will admit their faction is interesting. The origin of their existence is paradoxical, as they're originally made up of scientists, engineers and great-thinkers- the types you normally associate with empirical truths -yet they're driven by an essence of faith, zeal, and notions of the supernatural. With that in mind, in makes sense that while the VS are all about Tech, it's NS who seems to have the greatest grasp on how to manipulate the nanite technology. There's a damn good chance that the Vanu are deceiving the VS as to the nature of the nanites and warp technology. After all, we saw what happened when the VS did try to mess with that tech on a deeper level. It resulted in a wrecked warpgate and all the weird stuff that followed.
In the old lore it was stated that while the New Conglomerate shot first; it was the Vanu who orchestrated the initial incident between the TR and NC* as a conspiracy to enable thier own cessesion. I feel the new lore is a bit to soft on the Vanu. They are not grey enough compared to the TR or NC.
Everything started because of those greedy powerhungry two-face NC. First they "joined" to the TR to "discover" the new solar region, then they said "Fuck, we WANT all of this!" so they blew up Connery's ship, thought TR ended with him. After that they assassinated Briggs "seem like a suicide" to disband VS. But TR had a very rigid yet logical hierarchy so they stayed as a "Terran Republic ForEver"-team, and the followers of Vanu's heart stayed faithful for Briggs dream. NC propaganda the "FREEEDOOOOM!!!'. They don't want freedom, they just want free MARKET. Because Business and Money is their God. Those heretic liars... Conspiracy Theory 2.0 : BEHIND EVERYTHING LIES NANITE SYSTEMS AS A COMPANY!
I had to make a correction. The initial incident was between the TR and NC, not the TR and VS as I had previously stated. This was told to me by one of the old developers named Sporkfire back on the oldschool planetside forums.
@@ikariirgath2171 Except the a huge aprt of the NC that came with the fleet are civillian workers and engineers. You know, the guys that actually helped build the Terran Republic in Earth and the ones that worked with TR Auraxis to actually make the planet habitable. Not to mention that Waterson was heavily implied to be the one that killed COnnery AND the NC Executives in Discovery 7 to gain power smfh
I was going to say something similar, that I thought all the factions were supposed to be flawed assholes wether religious, totalitarian, or corporate greed. Dunno’ where I heard it but Ithought the VS shot up the peace talks and started the whole war off again because nobody took them seriously. I think it’s a shame to paint them as just successionists. (If that’s a word)
Only my opinion, but I really love how vague the lore is. It's like one last unbiased historian has tried to piece together the events that led to the war on Auraxis. Even things as "anticlimactic" as Connery's death just makes it feel somewhat real to me for whatever reason.
Yes, that's true. It's like: how stalin died - no clue, and thys happend. So actualy untold stories are closer to reality than even the most complex and detailed story. Who nows, mayby Connery is on retirement in Auraxian wersion of Argentyna?
It's a real shame, there's a lot of potential here. Even the concept of nanites could bring some really dark and messed up ideas with it: soldiers experiencing the shock of dying over and over, pondering their own humanity as they realize that they're just nanite reconstructions after their first "death," becoming colder and more distant as they kill more and more, and knowing that not even death can let them leave. Auraxis is literally hell, and they could do so much more with that idea.
I joined the Vanu Sovereignty because I actually believe that technology can help improve humanity, but at the same time I can see why the TR and NC hate Vanu because of the enhancements the VS soldiers are suppose to have. Also I think immersion is what this game needs. I do my best to be an absolute zealot for Vanu, but when I see a vehicle with VS colours that isn't floating what little immersion there is disappears. But I try.
@@electrobot9871 PS2 is a thing, well, has been a thing since 2012. You mean they haven't had enough time in 7 years to get even a crappy script or hire random voice actors? Nope, I still think that was just lazyness. They literally milked the franchise as much as they could before selling it to daybreak that kept doing also the same on his own
@@DarknessReaver I prefer they focused more on the game now than making a campaign. I like the vagueness of the lore, it gives a clouded view on the factions that makes you doubt your decision sometimes.
Obviously you can’t fit every single detail in the lore in this video but I’d like to point out some things; -The T1A Unity’s weapon description heavily implies that the formation of Terran Republic Earth wasn’t as peaceful -The New Conglomerate (or rather, the smaller business that now make up the NC) did help the TR (Earth) expand out -The TR was never a socialist utopia nor had anything to do with communism before Auraxis was colonized -There are heavy implications that Brent Waterson (TR Commander) staged the destruction of Discovery 7 where Connery and many NC Executives died to rise to power and blamed the NC. In his own words; “Because no one will ever find out, Adam. Who would question us if we pinned it on some of Mattherson’s starving N.C. cronies? We’re calling the shots here, remember? I trust that you’ll comply, given the terms of our agreement, correct?” (Planetside 2 Origins - Conspiracy) -One major detail that caused the NC to rebel (and in turn; the VS) just comes down to how Waterson broke his promise and became super authoritarian. While Martial Law was put in place whilst they were still stranded in space (after Connery’s death), the Martial Law was promised to be lifted once they landed on New Earth / Auraxis, but instead, it continued on for around about 200 years -The TR Auraxis and the NC were co-operating (under martial law) that help shape Auraxis for human colonization. NS also took part in this using their Nanotech. At some point before the war, the NC also created underground cities Also bonus points for mentioning BSG :^)
Honestly. I dont know if this is naive thinking but. I'm just waiting for Planetside 3 to release, but I'm not even sure if they have the budget to innovate much off planetside 3 unless the community shows initiative that they actually want that. I was into planetside 4 years ago. From time to time a check up but it just seems like a barren wasteland of a game that fell from grace. My only hope (if its even possible) is to maybe add space battles, and have capital ships that can be boarded. Maybe an mini galaxy? With battles across the different planets. Aswell as an economy,that each faction has to manage. I dream alot of what could be, maybe I'm in over my head
@@jemoederjamal4414 Star Citizen isnt about war though, it's just about you doing your own thing in an expansive galaxy. Planetside is war based, I think the planetside formula would translate well into space
@@GrayWolfGamerr Yeah but the development of such a game would cost insane amounts of money, and right now star citizen is the only game that gets close to it. I love planetside 2, but I wont't get my hopes up on another installment.
@@jemoederjamal4414 You're absolutely right. But planetside 2 had to have had a hefty budget too? They pulled off what no other game to date pulled off. But maybe having all the battles across a mini galaxy would probally be REALLY expensive. Maybe if the developers showed that they want to improve I would cobsider it but I'm just waiting to see if SC can pull it off
Planetside 1 had a system in place that drained bases. You used up nanites when responing and vehicle spooning. Need to make base more valuable to capture and turrets should be AI
Turrets should be super OP and take forever to repair (for balance) to make attackers either sabotage or focus fire before the real battle can begin. I mean, come on: A single MBT can win a 1v1 against the turret designed to destroy it. AA turrets do s#it damage and have no range AI turrets are too inaccurate to hit infantry past 15 meters.
I think that the lore could be developed through small comics similar to what Dirty Bomb did. Like perhaps about the first guy who got rebirthed. Maybe he felt like his body was alien to him.
I always though the original Planetside 1 lore was way superior to the retconned Planetside 2 lore anyway. For example, in the new lore, the wormhole between Auraxis and Earth was a one way trip. The wormhole collapsed imidiately after passing and half the ships were destroyed. I really dislike this idea, because in the original, the wormhole stayed open for several decades or so, with supplies and intel being sent back and forth. Then after a while, communications with Earth started becoming less frequent, then all of a sudden, the wormhole collapsed. This brings a whole other element of tension and mystery to the story. Why did they communicate less frequently before the collapse? By this point, the TR knew there was once aliens on Auraxis. Is it possible that the wormhole was a trap to lead resources away from Earth? Could Earth be under attack!? This is why the main goal of the TR is to re-establish control and find a way back to Earth. In the new lore, they don't really have that motive or urgency. I mean, imagine if they one day managed to re-open the wormhole, and our entire solarsystem was just a nuked hellscape... For example, I hate what they did to the planet Auraxis. In the original, part of the great mystery was how the planet already had a perfectly breathable atmosphere with tons of plants around. But that wasn't even the biggest mystery, but rather the fact that there were tons of plants, but not a single animal lifeform, not even a single bacteria or virus. Except that wasn't even the biggest mystery either: how can there be alien structures on this planet, yet no animals? Did they somehow kill all life on the planet except plant? Was the planet terraformed specifically for humans? There was a looming feeling of everything seeming too good to be true. This caused the TR to become paranoid as fuck, fearing that the aliens were plotting against humanity. It took one insurbordinate, and curious pilot for them to find out wtf the warpgates even did. Turns out it made them immortal, because that pilot just refused to be permanently executed. On the other hand, there was a growing cult of scientists that believed the Vanu were benevolent and had lead humanity to Auraxis as a gift. So they just took all the tech they found around and implemented it to their stuff and bodies, completely ignoring the TR's fears that all that tech might be a trap to be used against them in the future. In the new lore, they just terraformed Auraxis, cause they can do that apparently... The new lore has more characters and politics, but now there's no mystery, no philosophical questions, no tension. Just watch this youtube series on the PS1 lore and tell me it's not epic: ua-cam.com/video/XB9yHmQZmAM/v-deo.html As far as Planetside Arena is concerned though, I don't know why they even bothered. They could have just said the whole thing is just part of a VR training regiment all the factions use and called it a day.
I keep asking people if they know the lore and I've not met one that does! Thanks for covering this! Honestly when I was going over the lore I was too intrigued to notice the vagueness
also sprinkled into a few update notes here and there are hints at what's happening I recall when the game put the lattice system in, the devs made a blurb about how the three factions in order to make the transfer of nanites more efficient to their warpgate constructed "pipelines underground" or something like that meaning you'd have to capture the next base in the "Pipeline" in order to send those "Nanites" back to your warpgate suggesting what the factions are fighting over is territory and by owning territory that somehow sends nanites to that faction. In addition, the cortium crystal's were suggested in the update notes they first appeared in to be randomly springing from the ground for reasons unknown by the three factions, and that the technology was quickly being harvested and created, to utilize them. Also personal headcannon is that the war in planetside 1 happened and the war in planetside 2 is just being continued from the war in planetside 1.
so once the three factions discover immortality through rebirthing made possible by a supposedly infinite source of power, while also uncovering that Auraxis is a construction of the Ancients you're telling me that their choice was to begin an obviously pointless and endless war instead of using the opportunity to grow into a greater civilization....
Some fans and I think pieces of the original lore have retconned it to originally the TR used rebirthing for their most elite soldiers and did not invest heavily into the wider development because conquering death itself is kind of a big deal and dangerous to the whole of society. NS who had yet to become a neutral party and the scientists who would become the VS leaked the technology to the world thinking that immortality and near-infinite resources would stop the war and force a peaceful outcome.
don't think i've ever said it before but I love your into music. I've been following your channel for a while, sometimes I took breaks while I wasn't playing the game, but whenever I hear that music I'm instantly hyped because I know the video will be awesome. Thanks so much for your commitment to the game and making content on it!
Thanks so much for your insightful+meaningful content. I'm not able to play Planetside, yet I still stick around here because of how much I enjoy the discussions that you develop and the perspective that you offer to all sides of the conversation about this game. You really work to try and make the entire Planetside experience as powerful as it can be, and I super respect that!
Hey thanks so much for sticking around and watching even though you are on to other titles, glad I can make content that is still engaging to you. If I applied my style of content to other games, what games you would recommend I do that for?
(Oops this went long and kinda tangental. TL;DR at end.) I don't have any titles off-the-bat, but maybe if I think "out loud" I can find one. To characterize your content, a good example comes around the time that DX11 was being introduced and directly after, around the time that you'd come to the conclusion that battle flow was not going to be improved upon anytime soon. The first thing that struck me around this time (pretty much when I found the channel) was the strong reasoning and foresight invovled in taking pieces of the patches and really understanding what they meant not just for gameplay, but also the direction and intent of the title as a whole. The same thing comes to mind when you talk about what it means for servers to open/close/redistribute. Many folks will see as far as this thing getting nerfed or that thing getting buffed, but it's difficult to go deeper. Another thing that you do very well is tempering the community during the changes and periods of uncertainty. It's clear that this means a lot to you! You try to encourage the playerbase not to focus on complaining or grumbling at rough patches, but to embrace/adapt to the changes as much as possible and continue on with enjoying and developing the game. And then even in this video, while Daybreak's focus in on another title entirely, we're still here trying to draw out as much value from PS2 as we can. I'm an arts guy, and the detail that you're asking from this lore is so important! That kind of specificity and *intentionality* is a gold-mine when it comes to finding ways to engage and immerse an audience in a book or movie or game. How much do we care about LOTR's seige of Helm's Deep if we don't have the desperate stakes and bleak context, right? Anyway, none of that was the question and I didn't end up with a particular game haha. But from an outside perspective, those are things that stand out to me about this channel and if you play to your strengths, I'm sure you can create engaging content for any title that you honestly enjoy. (You happy = Audience happy). To me, Planetside is a strategic-yet-arcadey large-scale FPS... but my knowledge of titles is kinda limited so I don't know what could scratch those itches. TL;DR - You have a positive, journalistic style that does a great job in following the big-picture and encouraging the community to keep it cool. Play to those strengths and I'm sure it'll be lovely as long as you're having fun.
I’ve always regarded this games story as a live narrative that has been in motion since the beginning of launch. The stories and characters that were established during the early days of each servers launch are now legends among those who still are around all these years. Those early victories, and devastating defeats in the primordial era, the time where the it was truly an open frontier where the prize was the glory of first victory.(Indar on Helios was the last to be conquered and let that be an indicator of the voracity of the fight for the crown which would be held for months on end and whenever it was taken by another faction it was a HUGE deal, youd make a name for yourself for those that managed to come up with the strategy to capture it)After each server, established its dominate faction, it set the stage for the golden age followed but its subsequent dark ages. The single player experience or story has always been there. From the moment you step foot on auraxis and out of that warp gate, your story begins. Heroes rise and fall, villains will test those who must be tested. My character - Jenkman has managed to become both during his time on auraxis, as an underdog fighting N.C. hordes, beaten and warp gated over and over again, even with genedines merge, it didn’t mitigate the shear 3-1 numbers we faced for months on end. Until we adapted, as vanu does. By the time the merge with Connery came around. We were ready, we had to do what we had to do to survive and LEARNED how to fight against those odds with a tenacity that no other faction or vs for that matter (save for millers) that could say they had, because they had the pop. Heh when Connery merge happened with Helios, I remember that glorious day. Because I made sure we won every single alert that day to prove a point. We will rise to the challenge, we will fight to the bitter end and above all else, we will do it in style baby. jenkman still continues to lead the pubbies lost in the chaos, maxed out the mentor rank but there’s only one other N.C. mentor and no TR mentors yet. Mentor chat is useful for coordinating with the other factions on giving good fights for the new guys
There was a whole bunch of us that expanded the lore. I can't remember the names anymore, but we definitely put a significant amount of text out there. :)
My theory,the vanu alien tricked Connery and briggs into araxis,then kill of the leader started with Connery then to briggs as they torture him in his head , causing him to end his life , manipulation the TR in to preventing the war with NC rebeliance.However this caused a group of scientist to discover the vanu in directly from vanu 's artifacts on araxis,created the vanu faction. After that , they slowly cut off communication between araxis and earth,and introduce nanotechnology to all the factions , indirect or directly in case of the vanu. And then turn all of them on each other, created endless war on the planet just for there amusement.
13:15 I believe it's actually confirmed it was a terrorist attack. While there's some lore on the wiki, there's also some lore on planetside2.com that is quite well made. Here's is the archive condemning the incident, describing it as a terrorist attack : www.planetside2.com/lore/ps2-historical-archive-6-feb-2012
So everyone and almost everything is made out of Nanites. And Auraxis covered in Nanites, so it also explains why you can't fly higher because the Nanites fade out above 1000m so your Plane looses Power, since you don't need to refill Fuel. Heatmechanic is probably similar. The medic probably has a Battery in his Backpack and the Engie also and the Tools are re-programing? the Nanites. Since the Ammo-Pack is universal it refills the Ammo right into the Magazines/Batteries/Cartridges(i like to call the NC ones so, bc they probably contain Projectils and a Battery) You probly have two of them on your Body and then reloading you interchange them. The Cloaking are probably some kind of Particles, bc your weapon gets Cloaked also. Maybe the Nanites Convert Solar-Energy into "Nanite-Power"? I think all the Consciousnesses(man what a word, i had to google it) are Stored somwhere at Nanitesystems maybe in a Remote-Location. Sorry for the Bad Grammar. english is not my first language.
Hey Cyrious, I know that this is a somewhat old video, but I've had a relevant theory for a while: Given that the late Arena had taken place after the current events of Planetside 2 (2845), and the monotonous, poly-factional player toons in Arena, it wouldn't be out of the question to suggest that these are mercenaries for Nanite Systems. The proposal goes as follows: the factions come to some sort of peace agreement, where the Terran Republic and New Conglomerate are to cease their fighting, and as a result, the Vanu Sovereignty - who are only fighting because the war is destructive to their research and the planet of Auraxis - cease as well. Prior to this agreement, Nanite Systems, who have big money invested in the war, notice that tensions are no longer rising, and develop robotic soldiers to keep the wars fueled. After the treaty goes through, Nanite Systems decides to exterminate Auraxis, and threatens the toons on the planet to either become mercenaries for NS, or die. Those who agree become the toons in Arena, those who refuse remain on the planet as it is bombarded from orbit die. As a result, the terrain in Arena is much more barren, more flat than in Planetside 2, and numerous craters scattered about the fighting areas. TL,DR: _Nanite Systems_ wins the war on Auraxis.
I dont know where I heard it but I thought the plan for planetside arena was that after so much war and fighting eventually the factions dissolved and broke down resulting in a sort of - Post-apocalyptic Auraxis, where small bands of mercenaries were fighting amongst themselves. That's why they were calling that games map "Echo's of Amerish". Its Amerish in post-Apocalyptia. Why there's a closing in pain field? I don't think we'll ever get described to us. Though the more i think back to it the more I think i remember the dev team releasing a video before PSA was shown to be in third person where they were talking about the map of PSA and the creation process of it. If that is the case I can see why no one "One" the war, as everyone is dedicated to their faction and having one faction "win" the war would mean all the others fighting would be for not.
As a vanu player (and TR and NC but nvd) i think a cool even if creepy af idea for the vanu would be that their "life-fixing device (it's not said how in detail you revived your life)" worked on "souls" which could be a good explanation on the scientist suicide( sort of "i had the possibility to live better(thanks to a possible user before) now i have to gift this possibility to someone else). This could grimdarkly degenerate as some of the top member of the vanu society could convince the lower member to sacrifice themself in theory to join the Vanu(Imagined as celestial beings) in practice to allow an high member to re-live many times his life without problems. So there you have it: a mechanism which is not good nor bad used by some humans in a collective way and by some others as something to keep for themself. i'm also thinking about new peculiar vehicles and artillery and how to implement them ingame. but of course one thing is to think another is to do it.
13:10 Im pretty sure it is mentioned that it was Waterson Who blew up Discovery-7 and then blamed the NC, but anyways. That's what upsets me the most about PSA, the little lore we had is being stripper away just to say, ohhh no, everyone is a merc now. That is such bullshit, I have a folder which I have been adding a new letter, report, briefing, command decision, etc. To every single week (for the most part) since 2015, It is my very own head canon and I enjoy it a lot, and now Its all going to shit because it cant even be related to the 2 Words of lore we have about Planetside Arena as of yet. Big disappointment
I was gonna say the same thing. There's a short story out there about Waterson basically arranging a plot to kill Connery with that explosion and then declare martial law because there are dangerous terrorists out there. A big reason i chose NC over TR. I would link it if i wasn't typing on my phone right now. Trust Cyrious, the die-hard Terran that he is, to stick with TR tradition and leave that part of the story out ;)
You earned it Sir! 07 From what I remember reading, Waterson and some NC and NS dudes set Connery's ship to blow! The lore would make a good movie/series no?
I've heard that it was either the NC or TR disguised as NC who actually blew up Connery's ship, which spawned waterson's authoritarian grip, and even Connery was seeming to begrudgingly tighten security to these standards to a lesser extent in light of NC activity , either that or it's heavily suggested by the fact that during the time when the fleet was stranded behind the wormhole there were the occasional violent NC activity with them at one point even taking a bridge, and then killing twice their numbers in TR before being overun? I can't remember, honestly the lore seems very scattered and sometimes a lil bit he said she said with even the explanations to why we can't die seeming to be retconned and re-written from alien tech warpgates to vanu made later captured by NC/TR mid conflict nanite respawn tech leading to the construction of the warpgates, or maybe it's vice versa. Though I think I remember last year reading a lore post on the offical website with one of the big updates last year talking about I THINK it was briggs on auraxus discovering that second artifact, what happened, and basically overall going more in depth into the vanu and their cause, supposedly the vanu aliens were particularly advanced and powerful, but lost to fighting a greater evil and took refuge on auraxius, said greater evil put some sort of satilite or something behind the moon that kept humanity in a constant state of conflict (maybe it sent the false transmissions?) and then the Vanu aliens destroyed the satilite kickstarting the TR golden age and pissing off the greater evil in the process, so now the Vanu are either A: completely wiped out or B: at war again in a galaxy far far away, and I always wondered if maybe we'd meet one or both of these alien factions in some way. Also if you search planetside 2 lore on youtube someone has done a playlist of videos going into greater detail and flavor,, both going into offical and unoffical, maybe it's worth checking that out if you want more lore Cyrious, it's quite nice actually.
Also interesting in planetside 2 alot of the story regarding the landing and colonizing of auraxis, looks like it can be told through the names and designs of the bases. Many tech plants for instance have large Engine like structures emitting from there leg struts suggesting these where deployed from space with large jets similarly with the bio labs.some bases like amp stations suggest that blizzards have buried parts of the bases in snow as well. Theres a biolab structure on both esamir and hossin that have been torn apart suggesting that something went wrong upon their initial landing from space and thus were abandoned. The "NC arsenal," could suggest that perhaps the nc were gearing up for war and storing many of their assets at that base before war broke out. they removed it but there was a base in Indar where if you managed to glitch through it you could actually at one point find a tr BFR mech, suggesting the tr was working in secret on mech's. "Watterson's redemption" comes to mind as well hinting that at some point Watterson may have redeemed himself to his faction in the eyes of many.
If you want the part that the lore that are not clear to be made more clear, I highly recommend watching the unofficial lore because it absolutely explains all of those gaps in the official.
What happened was: War were declared. Also, when someone redeploys, they get the green "deconstruction" effect, though it's very quick. It's always been my theory that the nanites are inducing a stroke to kill the soldier instantly, so that they're reabsorbed by the warpgate network.
My head canon is that when ever you get killed or that you redeploy, you get teleported into a healing tank full of nanites that fix everything in seconds then teleport you back where you want to go. Wich explain why there is no dead body or destroyed vehiculs around, everything just get beamed back in orbit to get fixed then redeployed and the reason why it's called "rebirth" is because it heals, cure everything to the cellular level everytime even if it ain't broken.
I noticed you run Athlete on your Infiltrator build. Have you tried using Survivalist and EMP grenades? You can throw it at the max range to reset shields + get the 20% speed boost for rushes and get even more precious milliseconds in lag around a corner.
A story/campaign mode would be a great way to help flesh out the universe of Planetside's particularly PS2's timeline as its different from the 1st game. Not sure if they're still planning on writing on new Lore articles at the PS2 website. It just ends with NC gaining access to rebirthing tech from a VS defector, TR being stricter/efficient due to terrorists and VS being prepped for battle with Vanu's mysterious "Enemy" so far but can work if they make it PS3's premise.
I wasn't around during the time of planetside 2 when there were multiple types of resources all tied to bases and I'm here wondering why they took that out as it makes for great opportunities for siege gameplay and it could allow for the nanite idea to be fleshed out, set the geopolitical stage on Auraxis, balance out offenders and defenders and make bases valuable again...
Really considering making a short comic series built in the framework of the Planetside lore, filling in some of the gaps with some solid headcanon from the community, since i'm more of a visual artist than a writer.
Kinda cool that they had a character in the lore be on the spectrum...even if they did use it as an excuse to make the VS...and the aliens "cured" him. Its just really rare to see explicetly defined Aspbergers characters in...anything really. So good on the PS devs for that.
i know they dont have the resources or will, but tbh I think planetside 2 would translate really well into a large scale RTS game. would need some pretty good AI to be good but thats a distant pipe dream of mine that only exists in some distant alternate universe
It wouldn't even be that hard to flesh out, just get a group of about 20 super fans and let them hash it out. over a few months. Trust me they will get it done.
8:10 I just want to clarify because this is really important. People with Autism do NOT lack empathy, that condition is Soci/Psychopathy. People with ASC struggle with social elements, so they find it especially hard to know how to express the feeling of empathy that they get. Some people with Autism experience stronger feelings of empathy than neurotypical people, but struggle with knowing how to cope. Some people confuse Sociopathy and Psychopathy with Autism, and as someone who has Autism myself, I find that fact concerning.
A bit late to the discussion on but if people are interested in more planetside 2 stuff I would recommend 2 fan fictions by EclecticDreck as both stories are great reads if you have spare time. The Monsters We Make www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/79w3bd/the_monsters_we_make_final_update/ Hossin: www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/3tlsk2/hossin_the_final_release/
Aw hell yes, lore discussions in my friendly fire spandex simulator with continental domination and advanced gunplay - Oh. Well now my grenades are blue halfway through. They left some of the most dramatic and crucial points blank. What's there is really cool, and enough to stir the imagination, but there are some cardinal sins in overly vague ('for reasons unknown' used way too much) writing committed here. The priority level being lower than mechanical concerns is of course understandable, but this shows precious little interest in developing the insane potential left there.
Factions will be making a comeback in PSA 😉 Source: wccftech.com/planetside-arena-interview-devs-on-what-makes-it-unique-adding-story-progression-cross-play-planned/
Whenever DBG says they are doing something but leave it to Phase 2, I now just assume its not happening. Sadly the experience of PS2. But hopefully they do get them introduced in a meaningful way. To me it hasn't made a comback, until they actually execute on it.
Hey Cyrious, here is a timeline if you want: planetside.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Events I think it does slightly better than the wiki synopsis (also, youtube wanted me to post that four times apparently)
Enough lore was done to get through however many pitch meetings were need for each iteration. Some lore from PS1 was even back tracked a bit for PS2. It is really a shame it wasn't fleshed out more than it has been. So much potential remains untapped for the base they gave us.
They are also missing an opportunity to both tie things together and define it as a competition platform like they want it to be. PS1 & PS2 obviously tie together but PS-A looks like an outlier on the face of it. However if you view the PS-A as a fork from PS2 rather than a sequel it can make a whole lot more sense. Long term PS1 players remember the changes to the conflict over the years, some good some bad. PS2 continued from there with a couple of back steps but some upgrades as well. Now PS-A does not fit as a sequel to PS2, but it will make sense as a fork. The fork being that Nanite Sytems has taken over governance of all three factions. After all he who controls the high orbitals controls the world. PSA has eliminated the faction spefic equipment focus and with it the factions themselves. The fork being invoked by the introduction of the NS Operatives into PS2. Now they fork with NS-O being the tie that binds. From a conpetition perspective it tiers out with PS1 being the basic competition, PS2 being the upgraded sytems in place for further improvement both in the equipment and in the respawning systems. PSA becomes the straight combat only fork where everyone lives in the common pool just like NSO, with faction items being nostalgic side grades rather than being a focus any longer. I agree with you that rebirthing is not the right term for how you return to the fight. I think of it as reimprinting instead. Your personality is imprinted on a freshly generated Nanite matrix and you pick up from there. When you are taken down in a fight salvagable still functioning nanites are interrogated for necessary updates during the respawn process. Leaving us with branch 1 PS1>PS2 focusing on system development and improvement. Branch 2 focuses on Nanite avatar training/testing/improving.
7:41 listening to this after the news that we MAY have found signs of life on Venus hits different. To clarify for those interested: I say MAY because we found a molecule that as far as we know can only be produced by living organisms, however it's not completely irrefutable evidence because we don't know if there are ways to make that molecule inorganically, as chemistry is a vast and extremely complex science, and it still may be possible that an inorganic (i.e without involving living organisms) reaction can generate that molecule but the conditions for it are not present here on Earth, we just don't know yet. It is however not impossible for life to exist on Venus: it is theorized it had water and life in the past before becoming the hottest planet in the solar system (even hotter than Mercury) and it is very acidic which is not an environment life tends to like it is suitable for a certain kind of bacteria, also while the heat on the surface is enough to melt lead (therefore meaning even the most resilient bacteria we know would probably die in such environment) it is possible that bacterias could live 5km above the surface, as it has been observed that bacterias can live on clouds here on Earth.
I preferred PS1's lore, Terran Republic was a facist governmentm disovers the wormhole, builds a load of massive transports, they pass through the wormhole, trade is setup between earth and Auraxis, one day the wormhole closes and the industry giants decide to split off and become the NC and the research and development crowd discover alien tech and decide they want to go heavier into the research and the TR restricts this and so when the wormhole closes they split off and create the Vanu Sovereignty. It's bordering on criminal how under developed the lore is for this game.
Also, I never knew Briggs was named after the forebearer of the VS. I feel like all of the remaining Briggs players should be playing VS on SolTech to fix the population imbalance and fit in with the lore.
A lot of things in this video were either retconned or explained in the official lore tab on the PlanetSide 2 website. It's hard to find so here are the links. Part 1- www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2012&month=02 Part 2- www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2018&month=09 Part 3- www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2018&month=11 Part 4- www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2019&month=01 Part 5- www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2019&month=03 Worth noting: Briggs comes back to life in an ancient Vanu rebirthing pod. Then, disguising himself as a researcher, he finds a third Vanu artifact, which tells him about an Enemy that had enslaved Vanu and caused all conflict on Earth. The device he had used to do this was destroyed by Vanu in a suicide attack that essentially was the first rift. Since then, humanity had lasting peace, and the Vanu in death were free of the Enemy. But now that humanity is on the Vanu's former homworld, the Enemy notices them and makes them violent again, hence the never ending war. Now it approaches to destroy Auraxis and the humans on it. With this revelation from the artifact and Vanu comes a massive explosion that forms a crater in Hossin (I don't know where this might be ingame) and Briggs, unscathed, gets psychic/psionic powers like a true Starcraft character. The lore isn't clear on when this is, although this rebirthing pod was the first of its kind. After the VS discovered the rebirthing pods and started trying to make their own, a VS defector took the technology to the NC and helped them make one work first. As it was nearing completion, VS assassins took the defector and a number of NC leaders out, but all the most important individuals we're already set to come back in the prototype rebirthing pods, so the VS defector was the only casualty. Then the VS finished its pods and TR spies acquired their faction some pods.
Also Briggs killed himself right after interfacing with the second artifact by using some power tools that were laying around because he couldn't handle what he learned from it.
I read some of the PS2 lore and they really should go more that route, WoW is running it's course and this is the only mmorpgfps out there, I really don't understand how this game doesn't take off on Twitch, there's nothing like it and there never has, and there never might be sadly.. Some fun facts, I think the Artifact is in a base on Amerish somewhere, I forget which one
While I was aware there was a lore behind Planetside, I just worked under the assumption that the entire war boils down to what colour scheme everybody has to wear to the next NS Fashion Show.
Well, as far as gameplay impact goes...
Yes. 😄
The dude is upset that it’s vague but it makes picking a team better. You can’t tell who’s good or bad
VS did left Auraxis after achieving Hyperspeed with a Vanutec Ship powered by Beetlegeuses.
TR had no Ammo left since their Bullets are still technology from our time leading them to experiment with Vanu tech and blowing themselves away leading Auraxis to a shitty state.
Only NC is left and now they teamkill themselves for eternity in Planetdide Arena
This is now my headcanon for Planetside Arena.
And the ones who practice is the arts of the ShadeBae sacrificed themselves to ShadeBae and Daddy Drew so we could ascend and be reborn as. Nightshades, we secretly control the world and roam the universe, that’s why there isn’t Nightshades in PSA.
I know this is a year old but damn your comment is absolute gold
Now i want to see that BeetleJuice Ship
I think the lore is intentionally vague so none of the three factions appears clearly as the good or bad one.
Either that or the devs perfectly knew that players would ignore the lore and assume that TR = Dictators and Authoritarians, NC = Greedy businessmen and Anarchists and VS = Mad scientists and fanatic cult members.
Battletech has extensive and detailed lore, and never once makes any faction (except occasionally Davion) out to be the objective good guys. I love Planetside, but the lore is only there to give you a semi-plausible reason to shoot at the guys in differently-colored armor.
I've always viewed it that the aliens are studying humans from afar, to absorb humans into their empire; likely as a warrior race. The whole planet is effectively a lab/stomping ground with each continent having mostly a single biome to test what kind of climates the tested species can preform in.
A bit late of a response, but I fully agree with this theory. Everything from how the wormholes worked, the reveal of the Vanu artifact, the sudden absorption of the exploratory fleet together with the collapse of the wormhole directly there-after, and that the only planet viable for terraforming just happened to have the super -advanced nanite technology that just happened to be readily reverse-engineerable by the human settlers; everything points to the Vanu intentionally drawing humanity to Auraxis. Hell, it may even be possible that the Vanu had a far more direct hand in the formation of the TR and the NC, just as they do with the VS (and probably the NS).
Speaking of the VS, I hate them with a burning passion, but I will admit their faction is interesting. The origin of their existence is paradoxical, as they're originally made up of scientists, engineers and great-thinkers- the types you normally associate with empirical truths -yet they're driven by an essence of faith, zeal, and notions of the supernatural. With that in mind, in makes sense that while the VS are all about Tech, it's NS who seems to have the greatest grasp on how to manipulate the nanite technology. There's a damn good chance that the Vanu are deceiving the VS as to the nature of the nanites and warp technology. After all, we saw what happened when the VS did try to mess with that tech on a deeper level. It resulted in a wrecked warpgate and all the weird stuff that followed.
In the old lore it was stated that while the New Conglomerate shot first; it was the Vanu who orchestrated the initial incident between the TR and NC* as a conspiracy to enable thier own cessesion. I feel the new lore is a bit to soft on the Vanu. They are not grey enough compared to the TR or NC.
They are not grey enough compared to the TR or NC.
Nevermind the fact that they literally practice brainwashing
Everything started because of those greedy powerhungry two-face NC. First they "joined" to the TR to "discover" the new solar region, then they said "Fuck, we WANT all of this!" so they blew up Connery's ship, thought TR ended with him. After that they assassinated Briggs "seem like a suicide" to disband VS. But TR had a very rigid yet logical hierarchy so they stayed as a "Terran Republic ForEver"-team, and the followers of Vanu's heart stayed faithful for Briggs dream. NC propaganda the "FREEEDOOOOM!!!'. They don't want freedom, they just want free MARKET. Because Business and Money is their God. Those heretic liars...
Conspiracy Theory 2.0 : BEHIND EVERYTHING LIES NANITE SYSTEMS AS A COMPANY!
I had to make a correction. The initial incident was between the TR and NC, not the TR and VS as I had previously stated. This was told to me by one of the old developers named Sporkfire back on the oldschool planetside forums.
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Except the a huge aprt of the NC that came with the fleet are civillian workers and engineers. You know, the guys that actually helped build the Terran Republic in Earth and the ones that worked with TR Auraxis to actually make the planet habitable.
Not to mention that Waterson was heavily implied to be the one that killed COnnery AND the NC Executives in Discovery 7 to gain power smfh
I was going to say something similar, that I thought all the factions were supposed to be flawed assholes wether religious, totalitarian, or corporate greed.
Dunno’ where I heard it but Ithought the VS shot up the peace talks and started the whole war off again because nobody took them seriously. I think it’s a shame to paint them as just successionists. (If that’s a word)
What's the point of a lore without an Heavy Assault Advanced Guide?
rip pluto
didn't die has a planet
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I thought they reclassified pluto as a planet recently?
Only my opinion, but I really love how vague the lore is. It's like one last unbiased historian has tried to piece together the events that led to the war on Auraxis. Even things as "anticlimactic" as Connery's death just makes it feel somewhat real to me for whatever reason.
Pickle Chin true. Like in game of thrones, nobody is safe from stupid deaths!
Yes, that's true. It's like: how stalin died - no clue, and thys happend. So actualy untold stories are closer to reality than even the most complex and detailed story.
Who nows, mayby Connery is on retirement in Auraxian wersion of Argentyna?
You’re a good man for reviving that dude you accidentally ran over.
Yeah, always feel bad about roadkilling or TKing people, always review if there is a way for me too.
It's a real shame, there's a lot of potential here. Even the concept of nanites could bring some really dark and messed up ideas with it: soldiers experiencing the shock of dying over and over, pondering their own humanity as they realize that they're just nanite reconstructions after their first "death," becoming colder and more distant as they kill more and more, and knowing that not even death can let them leave. Auraxis is literally hell, and they could do so much more with that idea.
I joined the Vanu Sovereignty because I actually believe that technology can help improve humanity, but at the same time I can see why the TR and NC hate Vanu because of the enhancements the VS soldiers are suppose to have. Also I think immersion is what this game needs. I do my best to be an absolute zealot for Vanu, but when I see a vehicle with VS colours that isn't floating what little immersion there is disappears. But I try.
We have to get campaign
I dont even know why we dont have it already
the reason is well known. It's called "lazyness"
@@DarknessReaver or not enough voice actor or script
@@electrobot9871 PS2 is a thing, well, has been a thing since 2012. You mean they haven't had enough time in 7 years to get even a crappy script or hire random voice actors? Nope, I still think that was just lazyness. They literally milked the franchise as much as they could before selling it to daybreak that kept doing also the same on his own
@@DarknessReaver I prefer they focused more on the game now than making a campaign. I like the vagueness of the lore, it gives a clouded view on the factions that makes you doubt your decision sometimes.
13:19 Some dude was smoking near the fuel tanks... Lol...
Hey man, still more creative than their story right. :)
Been playing for like 6 years and never heard any of this ..
Most ofthe lore was pre Planetside 2. There are a few articles on the site they recently added.
Obviously you can’t fit every single detail
in the lore in this video but I’d like to point out some things;
-The T1A Unity’s weapon description heavily
implies that the formation of Terran Republic Earth wasn’t as peaceful
-The New Conglomerate (or rather, the
smaller business that now make up the NC) did help the TR (Earth) expand out
-The TR was never a socialist utopia nor
had anything to do with communism before Auraxis was colonized
-There are heavy implications that Brent
Waterson (TR Commander) staged the destruction of Discovery 7 where Connery and
many NC Executives died to rise to power and blamed the NC. In his own words; “Because no one will ever find out, Adam. Who
would question us if we pinned it on some of Mattherson’s starving N.C.
cronies? We’re calling the shots here, remember? I trust that you’ll comply,
given the terms of our agreement, correct?” (Planetside 2 Origins - Conspiracy)
-One major detail that caused the NC to
rebel (and in turn; the VS) just comes down to how Waterson broke his promise
and became super authoritarian. While Martial Law was put in place whilst they
were still stranded in space (after Connery’s death), the Martial Law was
promised to be lifted once they landed on New Earth / Auraxis, but instead, it continued
on for around about 200 years
-The TR Auraxis and the NC were
co-operating (under martial law) that help shape Auraxis for human colonization.
NS also took part in this using their Nanotech. At some point before the war,
the NC also created underground cities
Also bonus points for mentioning BSG :^)
The fact that each faction doesn't have a unique design for every vehicle (among other things) makes me not give a shit about the lore
MBT and ESF?
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Honestly. I dont know if this is naive thinking but. I'm just waiting for Planetside 3 to release, but I'm not even sure if they have the budget to innovate much off planetside 3 unless the community shows initiative that they actually want that. I was into planetside 4 years ago. From time to time a check up but it just seems like a barren wasteland of a game that fell from grace. My only hope (if its even possible) is to maybe add space battles, and have capital ships that can be boarded. Maybe an mini galaxy? With battles across the different planets. Aswell as an economy,that each faction has to manage. I dream alot of what could be, maybe I'm in over my head
You mean star citizen?
@@jemoederjamal4414 Star Citizen isnt about war though, it's just about you doing your own thing in an expansive galaxy. Planetside is war based, I think the planetside formula would translate well into space
@@GrayWolfGamerr Yeah but the development of such a game would cost insane amounts of money, and right now star citizen is the only game that gets close to it. I love planetside 2, but I wont't get my hopes up on another installment.
@@jemoederjamal4414 You're absolutely right. But planetside 2 had to have had a hefty budget too? They pulled off what no other game to date pulled off. But maybe having all the battles across a mini galaxy would probally be REALLY expensive. Maybe if the developers showed that they want to improve I would cobsider it but I'm just waiting to see if SC can pull it off
Well there are bastions and colossuses now, not exactly what you wanted but at least it’s something
"We don't know what happened"
-SOE, 2000
Planetside 1 had a system in place that drained bases. You used up nanites when responing and vehicle spooning. Need to make base more valuable to capture and turrets should be AI
Turrets should be super OP and take forever to repair (for balance) to make attackers either sabotage or focus fire before the real battle can begin.
I mean, come on:
A single MBT can win a 1v1 against the turret designed to destroy it.
AA turrets do s#it damage and have no range
AI turrets are too inaccurate to hit infantry past 15 meters.
I think that the lore could be developed through small comics similar to what Dirty Bomb did. Like perhaps about the first guy who got rebirthed. Maybe he felt like his body was alien to him.
I always though the original Planetside 1 lore was way superior to the retconned Planetside 2 lore anyway.
For example, in the new lore, the wormhole between Auraxis and Earth was a one way trip. The wormhole collapsed imidiately after passing and half the ships were destroyed. I really dislike this idea, because in the original, the wormhole stayed open for several decades or so, with supplies and intel being sent back and forth. Then after a while, communications with Earth started becoming less frequent, then all of a sudden, the wormhole collapsed.
This brings a whole other element of tension and mystery to the story. Why did they communicate less frequently before the collapse? By this point, the TR knew there was once aliens on Auraxis. Is it possible that the wormhole was a trap to lead resources away from Earth? Could Earth be under attack!? This is why the main goal of the TR is to re-establish control and find a way back to Earth. In the new lore, they don't really have that motive or urgency. I mean, imagine if they one day managed to re-open the wormhole, and our entire solarsystem was just a nuked hellscape...
For example, I hate what they did to the planet Auraxis. In the original, part of the great mystery was how the planet already had a perfectly breathable atmosphere with tons of plants around. But that wasn't even the biggest mystery, but rather the fact that there were tons of plants, but not a single animal lifeform, not even a single bacteria or virus. Except that wasn't even the biggest mystery either: how can there be alien structures on this planet, yet no animals?
Did they somehow kill all life on the planet except plant? Was the planet terraformed specifically for humans?
There was a looming feeling of everything seeming too good to be true. This caused the TR to become paranoid as fuck, fearing that the aliens were plotting against humanity. It took one insurbordinate, and curious pilot for them to find out wtf the warpgates even did. Turns out it made them immortal, because that pilot just refused to be permanently executed.
On the other hand, there was a growing cult of scientists that believed the Vanu were benevolent and had lead humanity to Auraxis as a gift. So they just took all the tech they found around and implemented it to their stuff and bodies, completely ignoring the TR's fears that all that tech might be a trap to be used against them in the future.
In the new lore, they just terraformed Auraxis, cause they can do that apparently... The new lore has more characters and politics, but now there's no mystery, no philosophical questions, no tension. Just watch this youtube series on the PS1 lore and tell me it's not epic: ua-cam.com/video/XB9yHmQZmAM/v-deo.html
As far as Planetside Arena is concerned though, I don't know why they even bothered. They could have just said the whole thing is just part of a VR training regiment all the factions use and called it a day.
The thing is they actually hired a proper write to script a lore, and then halfway through they decided, no you’re done, we’ll take it from here
I keep asking people if they know the lore and I've not met one that does! Thanks for covering this! Honestly when I was going over the lore I was too intrigued to notice the vagueness
also sprinkled into a few update notes here and there are hints at what's happening I recall when the game put the lattice system in, the devs made a blurb about how the three factions in order to make the transfer of nanites more efficient to their warpgate constructed "pipelines underground" or something like that meaning you'd have to capture the next base in the "Pipeline" in order to send those "Nanites" back to your warpgate suggesting what the factions are fighting over is territory and by owning territory that somehow sends nanites to that faction. In addition, the cortium crystal's were suggested in the update notes they first appeared in to be randomly springing from the ground for reasons unknown by the three factions, and that the technology was quickly being harvested and created, to utilize them.
Also personal headcannon is that the war in planetside 1 happened and the war in planetside 2 is just being continued from the war in planetside 1.
so once the three factions discover immortality through rebirthing made possible by a supposedly infinite source of power, while also uncovering that Auraxis is a construction of the Ancients you're telling me that their choice was to begin an obviously pointless and endless war instead of using the opportunity to grow into a greater civilization....
Yeah. It's more fun.
Some fans and I think pieces of the original lore have retconned it to originally the TR used rebirthing for their most elite soldiers and did not invest heavily into the wider development because conquering death itself is kind of a big deal and dangerous to the whole of society. NS who had yet to become a neutral party and the scientists who would become the VS leaked the technology to the world thinking that immortality and near-infinite resources would stop the war and force a peaceful outcome.
yup, differences in ideology will do that to ya
Well Hugh, that does sound like what us humans would do.
don't think i've ever said it before but I love your into music. I've been following your channel for a while, sometimes I took breaks while I wasn't playing the game, but whenever I hear that music I'm instantly hyped because I know the video will be awesome. Thanks so much for your commitment to the game and making content on it!
Hey thanks so much, thanks for watching and always coming back!
That “why” at the beginning resonated with me... gotta love “friendly” orbital strikes
Thanks so much for your insightful+meaningful content. I'm not able to play Planetside, yet I still stick around here because of how much I enjoy the discussions that you develop and the perspective that you offer to all sides of the conversation about this game. You really work to try and make the entire Planetside experience as powerful as it can be, and I super respect that!
Hey thanks so much for sticking around and watching even though you are on to other titles, glad I can make content that is still engaging to you. If I applied my style of content to other games, what games you would recommend I do that for?
(Oops this went long and kinda tangental. TL;DR at end.)
I don't have any titles off-the-bat, but maybe if I think "out loud" I can find one.
To characterize your content, a good example comes around the time that DX11 was being introduced and directly after, around the time that you'd come to the conclusion that battle flow was not going to be improved upon anytime soon. The first thing that struck me around this time (pretty much when I found the channel) was the strong reasoning and foresight invovled in taking pieces of the patches and really understanding what they meant not just for gameplay, but also the direction and intent of the title as a whole. The same thing comes to mind when you talk about what it means for servers to open/close/redistribute. Many folks will see as far as this thing getting nerfed or that thing getting buffed, but it's difficult to go deeper.
Another thing that you do very well is tempering the community during the changes and periods of uncertainty. It's clear that this means a lot to you! You try to encourage the playerbase not to focus on complaining or grumbling at rough patches, but to embrace/adapt to the changes as much as possible and continue on with enjoying and developing the game. And then even in this video, while Daybreak's focus in on another title entirely, we're still here trying to draw out as much value from PS2 as we can. I'm an arts guy, and the detail that you're asking from this lore is so important! That kind of specificity and *intentionality* is a gold-mine when it comes to finding ways to engage and immerse an audience in a book or movie or game. How much do we care about LOTR's seige of Helm's Deep if we don't have the desperate stakes and bleak context, right?
Anyway, none of that was the question and I didn't end up with a particular game haha. But from an outside perspective, those are things that stand out to me about this channel and if you play to your strengths, I'm sure you can create engaging content for any title that you honestly enjoy. (You happy = Audience happy). To me, Planetside is a strategic-yet-arcadey large-scale FPS... but my knowledge of titles is kinda limited so I don't know what could scratch those itches.
TL;DR - You have a positive, journalistic style that does a great job in following the big-picture and encouraging the community to keep it cool. Play to those strengths and I'm sure it'll be lovely as long as you're having fun.
Pretty sure PAL3Tigerrr founded the Terran Republic.
Michael B founded no, destroyed it... yes
I’ve always regarded this games story as a live narrative that has been in motion since the beginning of launch. The stories and characters that were established during the early days of each servers launch are now legends among those who still are around all these years. Those early victories, and devastating defeats in the primordial era, the time where the it was truly an open frontier where the prize was the glory of first victory.(Indar on Helios was the last to be conquered and let that be an indicator of the voracity of the fight for the crown which would be held for months on end and whenever it was taken by another faction it was a HUGE deal, youd make a name for yourself for those that managed to come up with the strategy to capture it)After each server, established its dominate faction, it set the stage for the golden age followed but its subsequent dark ages.
The single player experience or story has always been there. From the moment you step foot on auraxis and out of that warp gate, your story begins. Heroes rise and fall, villains will test those who must be tested.
My character - Jenkman has managed to become both during his time on auraxis, as an underdog fighting N.C. hordes, beaten and warp gated over and over again, even with genedines merge, it didn’t mitigate the shear 3-1 numbers we faced for months on end. Until we adapted, as vanu does. By the time the merge with Connery came around. We were ready, we had to do what we had to do to survive and LEARNED how to fight against those odds with a tenacity that no other faction or vs for that matter (save for millers) that could say they had, because they had the pop. Heh when Connery merge happened with Helios, I remember that glorious day. Because I made sure we won every single alert that day to prove a point. We will rise to the challenge, we will fight to the bitter end and above all else, we will do it in style baby.
jenkman still continues to lead the pubbies lost in the chaos, maxed out the mentor rank but there’s only one other N.C. mentor and no TR mentors yet. Mentor chat is useful for coordinating with the other factions on giving good fights for the new guys
Jenkman, right on, good doing battle with you! See you Planetside!
The lore has good potencial, I hope it gets more working. Thanks for this video!
There was a whole bunch of us that expanded the lore. I can't remember the names anymore, but we definitely put a significant amount of text out there. :)
My theory,the vanu alien tricked Connery and briggs into araxis,then kill of the leader started with Connery then to briggs as they torture him in his head , causing him to end his life , manipulation the TR in to preventing the war with NC rebeliance.However this caused a group of scientist to discover the vanu in directly from vanu 's artifacts on araxis,created the vanu faction. After that , they slowly cut off communication between araxis and earth,and introduce nanotechnology to all the factions , indirect or directly in case of the vanu. And then turn all of them on each other, created endless war on the planet just for there amusement.
13:15 I believe it's actually confirmed it was a terrorist attack. While there's some lore on the wiki, there's also some lore on planetside2.com that is quite well made. Here's is the archive condemning the incident, describing it as a terrorist attack :
www.planetside2.com/lore/ps2-historical-archive-6-feb-2012
So everyone and almost everything is made out of Nanites.
And Auraxis covered in Nanites, so it also explains why you can't fly higher because the Nanites fade out above 1000m so your Plane looses Power, since you don't need to refill Fuel.
Heatmechanic is probably similar.
The medic probably has a Battery in his Backpack and the Engie also and the Tools are re-programing? the Nanites.
Since the Ammo-Pack is universal it refills the Ammo right into the Magazines/Batteries/Cartridges(i like to call the NC ones so, bc they probably contain Projectils and a Battery)
You probly have two of them on your Body and then reloading you interchange them.
The Cloaking are probably some kind of Particles, bc your weapon gets Cloaked also.
Maybe the Nanites Convert Solar-Energy into "Nanite-Power"?
I think all the Consciousnesses(man what a word, i had to google it) are Stored somwhere at Nanitesystems maybe in a Remote-Location.
Sorry for the Bad Grammar. english is not my first language.
Hey Cyrious, I know that this is a somewhat old video, but I've had a relevant theory for a while:
Given that the late Arena had taken place after the current events of Planetside 2 (2845), and the monotonous, poly-factional player toons in Arena, it wouldn't be out of the question to suggest that these are mercenaries for Nanite Systems. The proposal goes as follows: the factions come to some sort of peace agreement, where the Terran Republic and New Conglomerate are to cease their fighting, and as a result, the Vanu Sovereignty - who are only fighting because the war is destructive to their research and the planet of Auraxis - cease as well. Prior to this agreement, Nanite Systems, who have big money invested in the war, notice that tensions are no longer rising, and develop robotic soldiers to keep the wars fueled. After the treaty goes through, Nanite Systems decides to exterminate Auraxis, and threatens the toons on the planet to either become mercenaries for NS, or die. Those who agree become the toons in Arena, those who refuse remain on the planet as it is bombarded from orbit die. As a result, the terrain in Arena is much more barren, more flat than in Planetside 2, and numerous craters scattered about the fighting areas.
TL,DR: _Nanite Systems_ wins the war on Auraxis.
I definitely agree that NS will win the war.
I dont know where I heard it but I thought the plan for planetside arena was that after so much war and fighting eventually the factions dissolved and broke down resulting in a sort of - Post-apocalyptic Auraxis, where small bands of mercenaries were fighting amongst themselves. That's why they were calling that games map "Echo's of Amerish". Its Amerish in post-Apocalyptia. Why there's a closing in pain field? I don't think we'll ever get described to us. Though the more i think back to it the more I think i remember the dev team releasing a video before PSA was shown to be in third person where they were talking about the map of PSA and the creation process of it. If that is the case I can see why no one "One" the war, as everyone is dedicated to their faction and having one faction "win" the war would mean all the others fighting would be for not.
As a vanu player (and TR and NC but nvd) i think a cool even if creepy af idea for the vanu would be that their "life-fixing device (it's not said how in detail you revived your life)" worked on "souls" which could be a good explanation on the scientist suicide( sort of "i had the possibility to live better(thanks to a possible user before) now i have to gift this possibility to someone else). This could grimdarkly degenerate as some of the top member of the vanu society could convince the lower member to sacrifice themself in theory to join the Vanu(Imagined as celestial beings) in practice to allow an high member to re-live many times his life without problems. So there you have it: a mechanism which is not good nor bad used by some humans in a collective way and by some others as something to keep for themself. i'm also thinking about new peculiar vehicles and artillery and how to implement them ingame. but of course one thing is to think another is to do it.
13:10 Im pretty sure it is mentioned that it was Waterson Who blew up Discovery-7 and then blamed the NC, but anyways.
That's what upsets me the most about PSA, the little lore we had is being stripper away just to say, ohhh no, everyone is a merc now. That is such bullshit, I have a folder which I have been adding a new letter, report, briefing, command decision, etc. To every single week (for the most part) since 2015, It is my very own head canon and I enjoy it a lot, and now Its all going to shit because it cant even be related to the 2 Words of lore we have about Planetside Arena as of yet. Big disappointment
I was gonna say the same thing. There's a short story out there about Waterson basically arranging a plot to kill Connery with that explosion and then declare martial law because there are dangerous terrorists out there. A big reason i chose NC over TR. I would link it if i wasn't typing on my phone right now. Trust Cyrious, the die-hard Terran that he is, to stick with TR tradition and leave that part of the story out ;)
You earned it Sir! 07
From what I remember reading, Waterson and some NC and NS dudes set Connery's ship to blow!
The lore would make a good movie/series no?
Thanks for this! Makes the game even more interesting!
This whole video was more interesting than my lectures ! :D
Ps2 story time yay, I learned a lot about planetside today thx cyrious amazing video😁
I've heard that it was either the NC or TR disguised as NC who actually blew up Connery's ship, which spawned waterson's authoritarian grip, and even Connery was seeming to begrudgingly tighten security to these standards to a lesser extent in light of NC activity , either that or it's heavily suggested by the fact that during the time when the fleet was stranded behind the wormhole there were the occasional violent NC activity with them at one point even taking a bridge, and then killing twice their numbers in TR before being overun? I can't remember, honestly the lore seems very scattered and sometimes a lil bit he said she said with even the explanations to why we can't die seeming to be retconned and re-written from alien tech warpgates to vanu made later captured by NC/TR mid conflict nanite respawn tech leading to the construction of the warpgates, or maybe it's vice versa. Though I think I remember last year reading a lore post on the offical website with one of the big updates last year talking about I THINK it was briggs on auraxus discovering that second artifact, what happened, and basically overall going more in depth into the vanu and their cause, supposedly the vanu aliens were particularly advanced and powerful, but lost to fighting a greater evil and took refuge on auraxius, said greater evil put some sort of satilite or something behind the moon that kept humanity in a constant state of conflict (maybe it sent the false transmissions?) and then the Vanu aliens destroyed the satilite kickstarting the TR golden age and pissing off the greater evil in the process, so now the Vanu are either A: completely wiped out or B: at war again in a galaxy far far away, and I always wondered if maybe we'd meet one or both of these alien factions in some way.
Also if you search planetside 2 lore on youtube someone has done a playlist of videos going into greater detail and flavor,, both going into offical and unoffical, maybe it's worth checking that out if you want more lore Cyrious, it's quite nice actually.
ua-cam.com/video/Z-4kxRS-GRg/v-deo.html
I surprise that you played NC
Of course, we are the superior faction.
Also interesting in planetside 2 alot of the story regarding the landing and colonizing of auraxis, looks like it can be told through the names and designs of the bases. Many tech plants for instance have large Engine like structures emitting from there leg struts suggesting these where deployed from space with large jets similarly with the bio labs.some bases like amp stations suggest that blizzards have buried parts of the bases in snow as well. Theres a biolab structure on both esamir and hossin that have been torn apart suggesting that something went wrong upon their initial landing from space and thus were abandoned. The "NC arsenal," could suggest that perhaps the nc were gearing up for war and storing many of their assets at that base before war broke out. they removed it but there was a base in Indar where if you managed to glitch through it you could actually at one point find a tr BFR mech, suggesting the tr was working in secret on mech's. "Watterson's redemption" comes to mind as well hinting that at some point Watterson may have redeemed himself to his faction in the eyes of many.
If you want the part that the lore that are not clear to be made more clear, I highly recommend watching the unofficial lore because it absolutely explains all of those gaps in the official.
What happened was: War were declared.
Also, when someone redeploys, they get the green "deconstruction" effect, though it's very quick. It's always been my theory that the nanites are inducing a stroke to kill the soldier instantly, so that they're reabsorbed by the warpgate network.
Love the Eve online music in the background :P
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@@CMDRCyrious o7
My head canon is that when ever you get killed or that you redeploy, you get teleported into a healing tank full of nanites that fix everything in seconds then teleport you back where you want to go.
Wich explain why there is no dead body or destroyed vehiculs around, everything just get beamed back in orbit to get fixed then redeployed and the reason why it's called "rebirth" is because it heals, cure everything to the cellular level everytime even if it ain't broken.
I noticed you run Athlete on your Infiltrator build. Have you tried using Survivalist and EMP grenades? You can throw it at the max range to reset shields + get the 20% speed boost for rushes and get even more precious milliseconds in lag around a corner.
nice haven't tried survivalist on infil.
@@CMDRCyrious Would love to see your take on it :)
I love the lore. Especially in the early days when I thought they were going to do something with it. I still enjoy it though.
Wow that dude lasted for more than ten seconds he must be immortal
A story/campaign mode would be a great way to help flesh out the universe of Planetside's particularly PS2's timeline as its different from the 1st game. Not sure if they're still planning on writing on new Lore articles at the PS2 website. It just ends with NC gaining access to rebirthing tech from a VS defector, TR being stricter/efficient due to terrorists and VS being prepped for battle with Vanu's mysterious "Enemy" so far but can work if they make it PS3's premise.
I wasn't around during the time of planetside 2 when there were multiple types of resources all tied to bases and I'm here wondering why they took that out as it makes for great opportunities for siege gameplay and it could allow for the nanite idea to be fleshed out, set the geopolitical stage on Auraxis, balance out offenders and defenders and make bases valuable again...
We need a single player campaign!
I would die for that.
Awesome idea!
Yes, as I look back on that Dec 2018 announcement that something big was coming, a single-player mode would have been a wonderful surprise!
Sadly Daybreak lives of multiplayer games and aren't that experienced in making SP content I guess.
18:41 is typical NC. As soon as you get to safety there are a bunch of medics who fight for the last bit of healing.
Really considering making a short comic series built in the framework of the Planetside lore, filling in some of the gaps with some solid headcanon from the community, since i'm more of a visual artist than a writer.
Kinda cool that they had a character in the lore be on the spectrum...even if they did use it as an excuse to make the VS...and the aliens "cured" him.
Its just really rare to see explicetly defined Aspbergers characters in...anything really. So good on the PS devs for that.
I feel like the war goes beyond auraxis
i know they dont have the resources or will, but tbh I think planetside 2 would translate really well into a large scale RTS game. would need some pretty good AI to be good but thats a distant pipe dream of mine that only exists in some distant alternate universe
It wouldn't even be that hard to flesh out, just get a group of about 20 super fans and let them hash it out. over a few months. Trust me they will get it done.
8:10 I just want to clarify because this is really important. People with Autism do NOT lack empathy, that condition is Soci/Psychopathy. People with ASC struggle with social elements, so they find it especially hard to know how to express the feeling of empathy that they get. Some people with Autism experience stronger feelings of empathy than neurotypical people, but struggle with knowing how to cope.
Some people confuse Sociopathy and Psychopathy with Autism, and as someone who has Autism myself, I find that fact concerning.
I'm glad someone else said this. I choose to believe that description of Briggs is some TR bullshit.
A bit late to the discussion on but if people are interested in more planetside 2 stuff I would recommend 2 fan fictions by EclecticDreck as both stories are great reads if you have spare time.
The Monsters We Make www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/79w3bd/the_monsters_we_make_final_update/
Hossin: www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/3tlsk2/hossin_the_final_release/
Btw you are very good to tell the story
Thanks!
great bed-time story
My lore: a TR wannabe ambushed me in the bar and dissed me = That's all I need to decide that TR declared war on my NC reincarnates!
purple go pew pew, red go brrrrrt, blue go bang bang
poor Pluto it gets it's title as a planet striped away, and then aliens blow it up. #PLUTOISAPLANETINMYEYES
Would love a band of brothers style tv series for PlanetSide
I enjoyed those lore updates they pushed but theyre not finished and dont tell us really anything. I'd love to read more of them.
Finally got the Gauss Prime on my NC medic.
the lore is huge damn
Thanks =D
If they started a line of novels I would buy the hell out of that
Aw hell yes, lore discussions in my friendly fire spandex simulator with continental domination and advanced gunplay - Oh. Well now my grenades are blue halfway through. They left some of the most dramatic and crucial points blank. What's there is really cool, and enough to stir the imagination, but there are some cardinal sins in overly vague ('for reasons unknown' used way too much) writing committed here. The priority level being lower than mechanical concerns is of course understandable, but this shows precious little interest in developing the insane potential left there.
Nemo Armstrong we get it ur dumb
Lol ShadeBae will be part of the lore one day!
@@wq8374 you're*
Stay in PS2. Send a message to Daybreak.
Factions will be making a comeback in PSA 😉
Source: wccftech.com/planetside-arena-interview-devs-on-what-makes-it-unique-adding-story-progression-cross-play-planned/
Whenever DBG says they are doing something but leave it to Phase 2, I now just assume its not happening. Sadly the experience of PS2. But hopefully they do get them introduced in a meaningful way. To me it hasn't made a comback, until they actually execute on it.
Hey Cyrious, here is a timeline if you want:
planetside.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Events
I think it does slightly better than the wiki synopsis (also, youtube wanted me to post that four times apparently)
Throughout all this discussion of lore I am surprised that nobody has touched on Uranus.
It's because Uranus has bad gas.
Enough lore was done to get through however many pitch meetings were need for each iteration. Some lore from PS1 was even back tracked a bit for PS2. It is really a shame it wasn't fleshed out more than it has been. So much potential remains untapped for the base they gave us.
They are also missing an opportunity to both tie things together and define it as a competition platform like they want it to be. PS1 & PS2 obviously tie together but PS-A looks like an outlier on the face of it. However if you view the PS-A as a fork from PS2 rather than a sequel it can make a whole lot more sense.
Long term PS1 players remember the changes to the conflict over the years, some good some bad. PS2 continued from there with a couple of back steps but some upgrades as well. Now PS-A does not fit as a sequel to PS2, but it will make sense as a fork. The fork being that Nanite Sytems has taken over governance of all three factions. After all he who controls the high orbitals controls the world. PSA has eliminated the faction spefic equipment focus and with it the factions themselves. The fork being invoked by the introduction of the NS Operatives into PS2. Now they fork with NS-O being the tie that binds.
From a conpetition perspective it tiers out with PS1 being the basic competition, PS2 being the upgraded sytems in place for further improvement both in the equipment and in the respawning systems. PSA becomes the straight combat only fork where everyone lives in the common pool just like NSO, with faction items being nostalgic side grades rather than being a focus any longer.
I agree with you that rebirthing is not the right term for how you return to the fight. I think of it as reimprinting instead. Your personality is imprinted on a freshly generated Nanite matrix and you pick up from there. When you are taken down in a fight salvagable still functioning nanites are interrogated for necessary updates during the respawn process.
Leaving us with branch 1 PS1>PS2 focusing on system development and improvement. Branch 2 focuses on Nanite avatar training/testing/improving.
They're farming fuel and doing strange horticulture on hossin. I definitely want to know more about the bones on Indar.
TR's energy consumption needs must outpace the other two factions, i mean look at all of that dakka!
7:41 listening to this after the news that we MAY have found signs of life on Venus hits different.
To clarify for those interested: I say MAY because we found a molecule that as far as we know can only be produced by living organisms, however it's not completely irrefutable evidence because we don't know if there are ways to make that molecule inorganically, as chemistry is a vast and extremely complex science, and it still may be possible that an inorganic (i.e without involving living organisms) reaction can generate that molecule but the conditions for it are not present here on Earth, we just don't know yet. It is however not impossible for life to exist on Venus: it is theorized it had water and life in the past before becoming the hottest planet in the solar system (even hotter than Mercury) and it is very acidic which is not an environment life tends to like it is suitable for a certain kind of bacteria, also while the heat on the surface is enough to melt lead (therefore meaning even the most resilient bacteria we know would probably die in such environment) it is possible that bacterias could live 5km above the surface, as it has been observed that bacterias can live on clouds here on Earth.
BREAKING NEWS: VANU cures autism,NC announce an alliance with the VS
Then i finished watching "The Expanse", i thought that could be a Pre-quel for the Planetside-Universe.
it's fairly similar factions as expanse's terrans belters and martians
I preferred PS1's lore, Terran Republic was a facist governmentm disovers the wormhole, builds a load of massive transports, they pass through the wormhole, trade is setup between earth and Auraxis, one day the wormhole closes and the industry giants decide to split off and become the NC and the research and development crowd discover alien tech and decide they want to go heavier into the research and the TR restricts this and so when the wormhole closes they split off and create the Vanu Sovereignty. It's bordering on criminal how under developed the lore is for this game.
Also, I never knew Briggs was named after the forebearer of the VS. I feel like all of the remaining Briggs players should be playing VS on SolTech to fix the population imbalance and fit in with the lore.
A lot of things in this video were either retconned or explained in the official lore tab on the PlanetSide 2 website. It's hard to find so here are the links.
Part 1-
www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2012&month=02
Part 2-
www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2018&month=09
Part 3-
www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2018&month=11
Part 4-
www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2019&month=01
Part 5-
www.planetside2.com/lore?year=2019&month=03
Worth noting: Briggs comes back to life in an ancient Vanu rebirthing pod. Then, disguising himself as a researcher, he finds a third Vanu artifact, which tells him about an Enemy that had enslaved Vanu and caused all conflict on Earth. The device he had used to do this was destroyed by Vanu in a suicide attack that essentially was the first rift. Since then, humanity had lasting peace, and the Vanu in death were free of the Enemy. But now that humanity is on the Vanu's former homworld, the Enemy notices them and makes them violent again, hence the never ending war. Now it approaches to destroy Auraxis and the humans on it.
With this revelation from the artifact and Vanu comes a massive explosion that forms a crater in Hossin (I don't know where this might be ingame) and Briggs, unscathed, gets psychic/psionic powers like a true Starcraft character. The lore isn't clear on when this is, although this rebirthing pod was the first of its kind.
After the VS discovered the rebirthing pods and started trying to make their own, a VS defector took the technology to the NC and helped them make one work first. As it was nearing completion, VS assassins took the defector and a number of NC leaders out, but all the most important individuals we're already set to come back in the prototype rebirthing pods, so the VS defector was the only casualty. Then the VS finished its pods and TR spies acquired their faction some pods.
Also Briggs killed himself right after interfacing with the second artifact by using some power tools that were laying around because he couldn't handle what he learned from it.
15:10 hol' the fuck up 10 continents? Hehehe theres gonna be some interesting updates regarding this i hope :D
some dude smoking near the fuel tank and the ship blew up, now thats the type of writing i want to see
I read some of the PS2 lore and they really should go more that route, WoW is running it's course and this is the only mmorpgfps out there, I really don't understand how this game doesn't take off on Twitch, there's nothing like it and there never has, and there never might be sadly.. Some fun facts, I think the Artifact is in a base on Amerish somewhere, I forget which one
Wrong
@@joperamod5760 I'm pretty sure it is, maybe I'm thinking a different map
16:03, this whole scene proves that the resurrection technology has made people not give a shit about life anymore. Even war is a joke to them. XD
and since then vanu won most of the alerts are lived happily ever after
What weapon are u using on the first clip
I knew I shouldn't have been sparking up near the fuel tanks. My bad guys.
So is planetside arena going to be planetside 3?
how did you get that hp/armor bar?
Nobody talking about how there is zefo civilian presence on auraxis, none at all.