THIS TOWER might change LATE game FOREVER - Bloons TD6

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @Bruzzzio
    @Bruzzzio 10 місяців тому +125

    I still think that bloonjitsu is really awesome when fully buffed, but for me, temples will still be my go-to for late game

    • @someonenamedtailsdoll7805
      @someonenamedtailsdoll7805 10 місяців тому +1

      And also the fact that you can get more Temples, while you can only get one Bloonjitsu (or 4 if you play with friends)

    • @someonenamedtailsdoll7805
      @someonenamedtailsdoll7805 10 місяців тому +2

      Wait.
      I was thinking of the grandmaster ninja.
      My bad

    • @Bruzzzio
      @Bruzzzio 10 місяців тому +2

      @@someonenamedtailsdoll7805 Well the grandmaster ninja probably felt pretty pathetic when it was face to face with four maxed out bloonjitsus in a 4 player co-op
      Shivering in his timbers, he is

    • @ma2perdue
      @ma2perdue 10 місяців тому

      I have become obsessed with stacking heros and paragons by the 1st s.monke - to hide them all under the vtsg. Theoretically with 4 tsg's, 4 heroes, and 7 paragons...you can hide all of them even if you use ace and Churchill.

  • @RCCH
    @RCCH 10 місяців тому +120

    A problem with the test here is that each Overclock actually adds less than a 2nd Bloonjitsu’s worth of damage but also takes up more space than a 2nd Bloonjitsu. Arguably speaking, there can be a lot of debate of which placements are more beneficial to place an OC or a new jitsu.
    Also I feel like not having Grand Sabo was a huge mistake, since it buffs all Shinobi Ninjas on the screen which makes a huge difference because it gives all Shinobis more range which is a huge deal with saving space for like a bunch more jitsus in center placements if the shinobis on the side get more range to reach the middle. (Granted you'd have to sell and rebuy for full uptime but it still definitely saves space)
    Edit: Also I’d like to point out selling and rebuying Homeland. As you pointed out, Temples almost never use up all their pierce by default. But Ninjas have seeking shurikens, making the +100% pierce buff from Homeland’s ability much more important to consider. If you buy and resell Homeland it would probably benefit Bloonjitsus about twice as much as the Sun Temples, which alongside Ezili buffs + Hex, I think there is a very much legitimate reason to consider why Bloonjitsus could be better.

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +25

      Yes, this is true! I am aware that Grand Sabo also does buff it. Yes, there is a case to be said. I probably should have hindsight, just included it in both runs. That being said I will leave this also slightly a bit vague because there is a few things I would like to keep on the side as I finalize and hopefully get a future video up! Hopefully you will one day see the fruits of this effort :)
      Thanks for the points though! Yeah I also struggled to think if OC was more worth or if I should have just placed another jitsu! I will think a bit more about this since this really was my first time hard testing something like this

    • @azemvoci5286
      @azemvoci5286 10 місяців тому

      wouldn't the jitsu get a 4x dmg boost from homeland? since it doubles both piercer (hich the jitsu uses all with the seeking shurikens) and the attack speed (making it trow out twice the shurikens)

    • @underground820
      @underground820 10 місяців тому +6

      a wild RCCH has appeared

    • @simplydoor9361
      @simplydoor9361 10 місяців тому +2

      a wild RCCH has appeared

    • @Teapotman2
      @Teapotman2 10 місяців тому

      @@simplydoor9361:/

  • @erasedpencil878
    @erasedpencil878 10 місяців тому +31

    The vtsg got 7.85 billion pops! Its the tower with the most pops and can be seen on 11:44 under monkey star!

  • @stickey3476
    @stickey3476 10 місяців тому +5

    The entire half of the vid about the ninja setup had me thinking about your hero choice. Im so happy you addressed it

  • @bobmoles4335
    @bobmoles4335 10 місяців тому +2

    13:47 Hey! I'm watching!

  • @PunjiBTD6
    @PunjiBTD6 10 місяців тому +11

    This is so well edited!

  • @HiemalUncia
    @HiemalUncia 10 місяців тому +15

    Fastest click of my life

  • @Zeldrake
    @Zeldrake 10 місяців тому +2

    Cool analysis! Very very detailed!
    If I remember, there's a bug whereby the flying Planes don't add their pops to the Temples, so that's pretty important when comparing pop counts. But even ignoring that, the rounds speak for themselves: and they're a TON cheaper !! I wonder if we'll see ninja spam in a boss meta soon

  • @user-qe8jg4kf8y
    @user-qe8jg4kf8y 10 місяців тому +3

    Ive been using Grandmaster Ninja Godboosted for a while, people rlly sleeping on Shinobis

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 10 місяців тому +3

    I've done a bit of testing on my own, and i think Ninja strats are better than temple spam, but only if pushed to the extreme. Caltrops on all ninjas, 100% uptime for Call to Arms with buying/reselling micro, BMA setup with all the usual debuffers, Master Bomber and Grand Sabotage, and at least some Paragons(basically just Boat and Ace but more past that should help a tiny bit)
    You'd need the best computer money could buy to be able to run that in a way that doesn't make micro impossible

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому

      Yeah I am starting to realize the same. Need an absolute powerhouse to make this work

  • @venomshot2815
    @venomshot2815 10 місяців тому +1

    The temple setup is good but not as optimal as it can be. You can cram in way more with optimal placements and to maximize DPS put all temples on portable lakes with a flagship to buff everything. Also I'm pretty sure temples would do much better on logs because pierce is used much better

  • @stretch7293
    @stretch7293 10 місяців тому +12

    Another really great video there! As you mentioned, you probably should have used BMA because the way that the damage between sun temples and bloonjitsus scale might be different when BADs are the only factor. It might end up being the case that either sun temples or the ninjas do a lot more damage to them. Caltrops would also end up being immensely powerful since their damage and pierce scales with each other multiplicatively. I'm also not sure if Overclocks for every Ninja makes sense because one engineer provides less than 100% extra attack speed while also having a bigger footprint. But putting all of your damage dealing towers in better spots and the Overclocks further away might still be more valuable The only real way to test it all would be in a full run with all of your other damage towers but that's a massive time investment. Also, using Geraldo might even end up being strong too with the new stronger degree 100 paragons and his see camo potion making up for the VTSG range.

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah thanks for the note! I agree on the point with Caltrops! Only problem is.. I don't think my computer would agree to caltrops 🥲

    • @HELLO-mx6pt
      @HELLO-mx6pt 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@TKRaxzorwe need to start a go fund me to get you a NASA computer to be able to play with caldrops. I need to see this strategy to it's highest level lmao

    • @jrcolonial98
      @jrcolonial98 10 місяців тому

      Let us donate! I’d chip in big time to 1) support a small creator 2) advance BTD6 science

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +1

      @@jrcolonial98 haha - I do have a pretty strong computer hopefully it is enough to test and seer now. Again no obligation to anyone here to donate! I enjoy making content so it's all good too :) subbing and liking (as cliche as it is) is plenty!

  • @lool8421
    @lool8421 5 місяців тому

    imo the meta would be some combination of both
    if a temple is going to use a lot of unusable space (like it covers a lot of track), it technically uses less space than if you used it in the open

  • @skeptikmavi6743
    @skeptikmavi6743 10 місяців тому +4

    Probably temples go further about 20 or 30 maybe 40 but ninjas are waaaayy more cheaper than temples if you have 1 million get support temple and spam bloonjitsu get perma brew and master bomber for stun
    That strategy is also used lategame chimps runs for the late game
    As crazy as that sounds gwen or ewen pat fusty could be tryd I think but I m not pretty sure if anyone wants to try it they can do but I m not doing it 😂

  • @bradw8102
    @bradw8102 10 місяців тому

    Funny how this has come up with a Phayze Least Cash boss mode currently on, and it appears several top 50 strategies used top path ninjas buffed as much as possible. I got $1.647m on the elite boss with a Ninja strategy including max shinobis and 3x T5 ninjas all buffed by a Sun Temple, Permabrew and Call to Arms, which produced a Degree 70 Ascended Shadow midway through T4, then T5 saw this and a Plasma Monkey Fan Club setup finish the job.

  • @ITried09
    @ITried09 10 місяців тому

    In lategame easy mode, sun temples are still better because you can move towers into they’re footprint, but if you play in chimps lategame the ninjas outclass simply because they are more affordable, even when considering ezili as your easy lategame hero.

  • @infrences
    @infrences 10 місяців тому

    Bloonjitsus are pretty underrated for raw damage. I had a save on cubism CHIMPS that went past round 200 with obyn greenfoot as the hero and my main damage being jitsus. My highest run on CHIMPS is round 259 and it could’ve been with Obyn or Ezili, I forgot, but the point is that the value for damage, and just raw damage output alone for jitsus are insane, plus they are the most buffable tower in the game, hands down. One damage, meaning that damage buffs work the best on them, and the shinobis being exclusive to ninja monkeys. Good video, I wouldn’t dare stress test my computer like that lol.

  • @Experiment1987.5
    @Experiment1987.5 10 місяців тому +5

    When Raxzor uploads it’s a good day

  • @willnoyes7019
    @willnoyes7019 10 місяців тому

    This is insane I can’t believe that you actually did this this was so much fun to watch

  • @Hypnotify
    @Hypnotify 10 місяців тому +1

    most underrated btd6 youtuber imo

  • @Hypnotify
    @Hypnotify 10 місяців тому +1

    the second he said "a big problem happened" I got a brawl stars ad

  • @SHHDADDYSWORKN
    @SHHDADDYSWORKN 10 місяців тому +2

    Yeah i feel paragons cost a bit to much as well.
    In terms of sacrificeing money. Haha
    You are spot on way to grindy for them
    I also cant imagine how long these videos take, thanks for the information.

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I hope they make it a little bit cheaper. As it stands right now, it is a bit too grindy for my liking

  • @spacexdemo8254
    @spacexdemo8254 10 місяців тому +1

    I feel like you should've gotten a Master Bomber as well, since you're only going to get that if you set up the 20 shinobi army. I wouldn't have made it Sun Temple vs Jitus, but rather Sun temples feat. Adora vs Ninjas feat. Geraldo. Also you should've 100% added Grand Sabo for both runs, because it also buffs shinobis and give Jerry fires on them insane dmg.
    And btw the Ninja strat is insane for late game CHIMPS. I tried it out just yesterday, completely winging it, messing up placements and all, forgetting to get Jitsus and getting rdm T5s and still going to R180.
    Ninja strat should be better when adding in a BMA, Master Bomber, Geraldo and Grandmaster.
    The quesion is, do the Gerry fires outclass Ezili? Because on round with multiple BADS, MOAB Hex can only do so much.

  • @flipelo-f
    @flipelo-f 10 місяців тому

    nice to see your finallu getting the recognition you deserve :)

  • @Jay-Hebs
    @Jay-Hebs Місяць тому

    I ain’t dealing with all that lag. Less towers go brrr

  • @sonicmeerkat
    @sonicmeerkat 10 місяців тому

    honestly ninjas are just amazing towers, you can even beat games ninja only if you rush teir 3 bottom path before round 28, adds quite a nice stall as well when they get stacks, add caltrops to the shinobis and the high peirce and attack speed melts bloon rushes, they do suffer with single target damage but sticky bomb and bloonjitsu deals with them quite handily.
    i never really thought about using the strategy lategame however despite it being the casual fuck around strat that got me furthest into lategame before i hard focused farming early. but honestly opening up another hero option is pretty big, and with the layout of shinobi centre and outside while bloonjitsu's along the track to maximise the buffs coverage, yeah the utility of ezeli garanteed killing bads would probably override more vtsg damage especially 400 and beyond.
    quite exciting honestly cause sun temples can be quite annoying at times with upgrade orders and deleting surrounding towers along with adoras blood sacrifice not being tech bottable.

    • @sonicmeerkat
      @sonicmeerkat 10 місяців тому

      actually yeah you mention in the video you got 401's, that would make sense for chimps games where you need to save cash for big upgrades bur for ultra late game, you're leaving a ton of free damage on the table since caltrops have the same attack speed and peirce buffs the stars recieve so they might actually be stronger combined with azale's hex ability making up for bad health scaling.

  • @rapitultra
    @rapitultra 10 місяців тому

    It’s a great day when Raxzor uploads

  • @AsmolGothPotat
    @AsmolGothPotat 10 місяців тому

    i always use ezili for my high round runs, % damage for all round with the ability to not only damage BADs but also jump from 1 to another is actually insane, sure adoras sacrifice is cool and all, but ezili also has cat so....

  • @gromburt
    @gromburt 10 місяців тому

    I always enjoy your videos but I enjoyed this one especially. Really interesting! And great execution

  • @ShadowViperGaming43
    @ShadowViperGaming43 10 місяців тому

    Awesome test! Hell, you earned a sub from me just for the time you put into this:)

  • @MemeJoky
    @MemeJoky 10 місяців тому +2

    Did you buy the 0-5-0 ninja, it buffs the shinobi buff

  • @Penguin-gq7mp
    @Penguin-gq7mp 10 місяців тому

    Ok but you can fit more towers inside of temples with the shinook bug

  • @kurantechan6591
    @kurantechan6591 10 місяців тому +4

    I don't know if you'll think its worth it given the amount of hours you spent, but I'll definitely sub to you because I appreciate the really nice quality of the video! :D
    Much love

  • @amitaisaiger8784
    @amitaisaiger8784 10 місяців тому

    i guess to find out for sure you have to try a full late game run on resort with paragons and other tier 5's but one has bloonjitsu and ezili and the other had temples and adora. surely that won't take another 80+ hours and be a waste of time :P

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому

      Will definitely be a future video!

  • @pogchamp1189
    @pogchamp1189 10 місяців тому

    bro i love your vids keep up the good shit

  • @ObiwanGambino
    @ObiwanGambino 5 місяців тому

    Love your videos man

  • @botot0
    @botot0 10 місяців тому

    you really deserve more viewers

  • @petloverdoggo
    @petloverdoggo 10 місяців тому

    Hey raxzor, its been a while. My computer broke so i stopped playing btd6, and thus, i stopped watching btd6 youtubers. A couple days ago i ordered my new computer and it will be here in a couple of weeks so. Let's hope i keep watching

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому

      All good! I totally understand. Life happens things change. Thanks for all the support always :)

  • @coloradoclark2635
    @coloradoclark2635 10 місяців тому

    This was a good idea

  • @bepis_ban7752
    @bepis_ban7752 10 місяців тому +1

    gaming

  • @STNDD
    @STNDD 10 місяців тому +2

    **gets nerfed next update**

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +1

      lmao NK pls don't watch this video. I'm a small youtuber anyways.

  • @SoulBoyDenz
    @SoulBoyDenz 10 місяців тому +1

    11:10 weird to see u with actual good amounts of monkey money

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому

      Won't be for long don't worry

    • @SoulBoyDenz
      @SoulBoyDenz 10 місяців тому

      on what do u usually spend it other then tech bots

  • @gaus98real
    @gaus98real 10 місяців тому

    i love ninjas

  • @RDTurcios
    @RDTurcios 10 місяців тому

    Nice frame rate bro ;)

  • @Ne_Ne_Vova_UA
    @Ne_Ne_Vova_UA 10 місяців тому

    I mean, you still use VTSG for duffs in ninja strat

  • @ObiwanGambino
    @ObiwanGambino 10 місяців тому

    Arent the ninjas much cheaper? I think you didnt talk about that point right. Nice video anyone 😍

    • @ObiwanGambino
      @ObiwanGambino 10 місяців тому

      Anyway*

    • @somthingrandom312
      @somthingrandom312 10 місяців тому

      They are way cheaper but that is only really relevant in CHIMPS freeplay. It is very relevant in that though

    • @EasonLin-ep4jf
      @EasonLin-ep4jf 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s late game so price really doesn’t matter. It’s mainly space efficiency

  • @-Woodstock-Lastrussysux
    @-Woodstock-Lastrussysux 10 місяців тому +1

    Like and sun to raxor so then he can afford therapy

  • @duchsmoka4590
    @duchsmoka4590 10 місяців тому

    buffed Sentry Champion is op tbh

  • @artthefox3151
    @artthefox3151 10 місяців тому

    What's the farming method that give you that much money at only round 90?

  • @Serci69
    @Serci69 10 місяців тому

    did you test them on the same seed?
    because you cant really test them else

  • @mandarynek308
    @mandarynek308 10 місяців тому

    i hate super monke so i was always hesitating to try late game but now i will just go for ninjas instead

  • @legendofmonkey_
    @legendofmonkey_ 10 місяців тому

    so about the threapist thingy he said btd6 wasnt an confirmed great serviced threapy

  • @lorcanbailey1699
    @lorcanbailey1699 10 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @EggZu_
    @EggZu_ 10 місяців тому

    i wanna buy that tech bot off you

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +1

      It's yours. Thank you so much!!

  • @_whar
    @_whar 4 місяці тому

    THIS TOWER LATE FOREVER

  • @chesterlai9444
    @chesterlai9444 10 місяців тому

    Why no paragons?

  • @somthingrandom312
    @somthingrandom312 10 місяців тому +1

    I dont think you show the true power of the jitsus. I have gotten to r432 CHIMPS with this strat

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому

      I didn't! There is more to explore here. I will hopefully readdress in a future video :)

    • @Lt_Koro
      @Lt_Koro 10 місяців тому

      based Chimps freeplay enjoyer

  • @AndyChen-zu3mr
    @AndyChen-zu3mr 10 місяців тому

    Bro you didn’t buy caltrops on the ninjas.

  • @randomuser5443
    @randomuser5443 10 місяців тому

    Redo with alelzi

  • @Crackfee-chan
    @Crackfee-chan 10 місяців тому

    Off topic, but why not just get a mod to get tech bots as a tower for these kind of videos?

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +1

      It will be used for future ones!

    • @Crackfee-chan
      @Crackfee-chan 10 місяців тому

      ​@@TKRaxzorgood to hear, this was a great video!

  • @lorcanbailey1699
    @lorcanbailey1699 10 місяців тому

    Why do you get 501 alch and not 520 alch

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому +2

      The Crosspath doesn't actually matter for Permabrew - Tehcnically speaking yes the 5-2-0 does a teeny bit more damage towards BADs (negligable) but I hoenstly did a 5-0-1 because I wanted to finish the set-up ASAP so I could do other things lol. Just to help throw the permabrew faster.

    • @lorcanbailey1699
      @lorcanbailey1699 10 місяців тому

      @@TKRaxzor did u ultraboost the permabrew?

  • @phixidelta
    @phixidelta 10 місяців тому

    Do it with ezili then again with obyn 😂

    • @Lt_Koro
      @Lt_Koro 10 місяців тому +1

      why Obyn? garbage hero, even for ninjas. use pat or gwen instead.

    • @phixidelta
      @phixidelta 10 місяців тому

      @Lt_Koro was gonna mention pat/Gwen too but they're activated buffs with limited up time, too much work for me lol
      Obyn is passive and passive is better than an active you never use

    • @Lt_Koro
      @Lt_Koro 10 місяців тому

      @@phixidelta kid named techbot

    • @phixidelta
      @phixidelta 10 місяців тому

      @@Lt_Koro that cost monkey money 😓

  • @tobik3307
    @tobik3307 10 місяців тому

    man i love your videos. all you need is a new mic

    • @TKRaxzor
      @TKRaxzor  10 місяців тому

      Up next on new list of purchases!

  • @Ianthegreatest
    @Ianthegreatest 10 місяців тому

    Yo

  • @miberss
    @miberss 10 місяців тому

    looking for an editor? :3

  • @eidkristo6107
    @eidkristo6107 10 місяців тому

    Bro didint get the caltrops you needed to get them

  • @Microwave_l0rd
    @Microwave_l0rd 10 місяців тому

    dont worry you spent 60 hours for 6k views
    also mf was MOTIVATED

  • @Shizuna560
    @Shizuna560 10 місяців тому

    That damage comparison is invalid considering bloonjitsu need bunch of middle path ninja to get its supposed 550 mil dmg. So this videos proof nothing at all

  • @MechaPuppy
    @MechaPuppy 10 місяців тому +3

    first lol

  • @warbled
    @warbled 10 місяців тому

    Pin me or the video sucks