New Battlestar Galactica TV Series: Pilot Update & Key Insights Revealed!
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- A breakdown of an interview with Sam Esmail by The Hollywood Reporter, what his comments indicate about the potential thematic focus of this new Battlestar Galactica series. Although much still remains a mystery about the pilot episode and the series' overall setting, Esmail was able to share that they have developed a comprehensive outline for the series and responded to a few questions regarding the creative team’s approach.
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I hated it.
Cylon's don't just represent technology. Everything and everyone is actually technology because everything is composed into Systems. Systems are a technology where you have collections of People, Process and Tools. Every country, corporation, organization, group of people are Systems, just like a car is. Even Paper is technology. Everyone is technically now a Cyborg because everyone carries cell phones. Those who master superior technology first will master others. Getting beaten by your own technology means you didn't truly master the technology. You took short cuts and faked it.
Crazy to think Moore's version originally aired almost 20 years ago
Would be interesting if they do the story in"reverse" so to speak..an expedition fleet led by the Galactica sets out from Earth to find the lost 13 Colonies
I never thought that and think that is a very good idea.👍
I like that idea.
It makes sense since Earth has become an armpit. They'd do it for the wrong reasons in 2023/beyond, though, instead of escaping from the social nightmare the West has become.
I was starting to enjoy "Caprica," the prequel series to Moore's version of Galactica when SyFY cut it short. Too bad! It's even more timely now with the advent of AI and I hope that narrative can continue somehow.
The problem with Caprica was that fans of the 2003 reboot were expecting something similar to what they'd already seen: a tight, character-driven military drama in space, with high stakes action driving the plot. Instead, they gave us a boring planet-bound plot, and a teenage girl's existential crisis.
I know that's a drastic oversimplification of what Caprica was trying to do, but that's what it felt like at the time. It was hugely disappointing, and was not at all the story most of us wanted to see told. If they had done Caprica as a completely standalone original sci-fi setting, I think it would have seen more success, because then it wouldn't have had half a fanbase throwing up their hands in annoyance and tuning out.
Or if they'd skipped ahead a few years to where the Cylons were already in full production, being used in servant roles and in the wars between the colonies, and focused on their slow awakening as conscious beings and grappling with the way they were being used, eventually culminating in their decision to rebel? That would have been an amazing show, one similar enough in aesthetic and action to BSG to satisfy fans, but still unique in its own right.
True, but honestly, the execution of the first few episodes was horrible. There were quite a few Sci Fi shows trying to mimic the success of the dark character driven BSG.....the problem was they forgot that BSG also got the plot roaring along in the first 5 minutes. I can't think of any other series that got me engrossed in it within minutes.
It's sad. There was Caprica, Ascension, the SG1 spin-off, and something called "Gravity" if I remember correctly.
All those series spent their first 5 or 6 episodes, "In Character development". It was like watching very bad and very long French avant-garde theater.
The writers forgot you could do both, develop characters AND plot simultaneously. Too bad, because right when they were cancelled you could just start seeing the potential.
Chalk me up as yet another disappointed BSG fan.
I also enjoyed Caprica and wished they had done a season 2 that would have lead up to the cylon attack.
@@johnsmithers8913 The opening scene is the greatest opening scene of any pilot tv show episode in tv history.
oddly Battlestar is probably the only franchise that re-telling the story over and over again would be acceptable to the fans as it's part of the mythos and theme of everything that has happened has happened before. So a smart showrunner could easily incoroprate that into future shows, even with odd reimaging like you see in Trek that once concluded could be easily rebooted and not miss a beat.
1000% agree if and only if it's handled with care and attention. It could also be used as a crutch or gimmick to excuse lazy writing. I'm hoping for the former rather than the latter. I'm a huge fan of the Scifi Channel Series. If only I could be a fly in that writer's room.
Was thinking the same thing. Moore's was chef's kiss, but I'm open to another cycle.
Strongly disagree especially with using Star Trek as an example which most fans hate the JJ and current TV versions.
There’s no need for a reboot but I wouldn’t mind a continuation of the Young Bill Adama story and Caprica getting a better retelling.
They could have done that with The Wheel of Time but they didn't think to say that the show wasn't the same turning of the wheel as the book.
Yes but the 2004 reboot makes its clear that this history has repeatedly happened more than once therefore both TOS and Reboot are canon. Except doe Galactica 1980 that shit is garbage lol
I loved BSG, but why another remake?? Isn't there one thread of original thought in Hollywood anymore?
Looks like no. And apparently they are scrapping the bottom of the barrel at this point.
Nope, Hollyweird is focused on hiring activists and people who check a physical or sexual box not focused on talent or merit. When you hire someone and don't care about talent you get current Hollyweird.
@@arthurpendragon3000 Oh please with this culture war BS, you are either a bot or a moron.
Nope. Look at the new Godzilla. It's plowing Holllywood right over.
This. A thousand times this.
Ever since the original BSG back in the 70's (also that 80's thing/short series they did with the motorcycles) I have loved this franchise, Moore's version was also perfection, looking forward to this new rendition and hope it's good and stays close to Moore's vision.
You mean Galactica 1980?
Moore's version isn't about the robot overlords. It took a lot of inspiration from Christianity replacing the traditional roman gods and the fall of Rome. By taking an old story and adapting it into a futuristic setting, Moore's version is aging really well vice taking modern politics for inspiration. It became a personal survival in a changing world (universe). It is like in the movie/book I am Legend, Will smith's character is the monster/bad guy. Most people that have only watched the movie don't understand that.
Most people who watched the Oscars already knew that though.
@@bushwacka5187 So you are saying that the 20 people that still watch the Oscars knew it. 😂
@@Rusty_Raine 🤣🤣🤣
Watch The Omega Man, much better movie.
I dunno, man, Moore's version was pretty woke. All the race and gender swapping they did was quite noticeable back then, and people's tolerance for it led to much more of the same in increasingly egregious ways. I wonder sometimes if people had pushed back on it much more in 2003, if we could have avoided much of the downfall of western culture that followed.
My brain translates "New battlestar galactica tv series" into "Studio holds onto IP rights a bit longer"
Probably right! Certainly they don't trust themselves to come up with anything new and fresh that can outperform any of the older IPs they're still clinging to and hope to squeeze a little more money out of.
@@fakecubed It's not clever, it's not funny, but they'll stop beating the dead horse when it stops shitting out money
Seriously looking forward to seeing how this all turns out. With the recent disappointments of beloved books and series that have come out recently, I am strangely optimistic for this BSG Version! Thanks for the info Cookies!
The likelihood of it being nearly as good as the last one, is about the same as the first one being considered anything but a kids show.
Show us how the first Cylon war started and how the Cylons developed the skin jobs. Also it would be nice to see the Cylon home planet and maybe some of the Colonies other than Caprica.
Absolutely. If it's going to succeed, show other parts of the Ron Moore version, instead of re-doing it. I'd like to see more stories about what took place among the civilians of the fleet. Endless story material there.
I think the og is fine (my opinion) but Moore’s was perfection. I love it so much since my dad introduced me to the universe.
Same. Loved the OG. But the reimagined one of Moore's really is brilliant. Especially for a Sci-Fi Channel show and non US show. That was uber rare back then. Still is, actually. I just hope this new one isn't captured by Marxist ideology like so many hugely popular IPs today. It's not like it really needs it, either. It had great "strong women" without being eye rolling(maybe when Starbuck took punches from men but that's been a thing on TV for a long time now). Diversity that matches NA population(though tv and movies have been racially represented well for decades as well no matter what activists say). But I just hope they don't get all goofy and make Adama a trans woman or something insane and suicidal to the show. So many IPs have been wasted on that stuff. I just hope they learned it doesn't sell outside very small circles and Reddit moderator types.
The design was a step back, like 10 steps back, and AI revolting against humanity was an already overly used trope.
Wow, promising to absolutely respect the predecessor yet bringing updated insights using only the best talent. And it's guaranteed by an overseer who hasn't done it before. This sounds every bit as fresh and exciting as the Cowboy Bebop announcements. That turned out perfectly. I'm going to expect exactly the same thing here. Anyway, no matter how hard it sucks, we'll still have Nerd Cookies. Frankly I'd like to see someone hand you a check and a five-year time slot with instructions that simply say, "Make science fiction." That would be magic. This retread news is about as magical as burnt eggs. Many thanks for the warning, love your work. Wonderful insights, compelling narration, and just perfect production - you all rule.
Thanks for the news, am looking forward to more Battlestar Galactica.
You have a wonderful chanel, really like the way you make videos!
While Im a fan of the Moore BSG if we are going to do another epic series I personally think the first 3 Dune books chronologically ie the Butlarian Jehad, etc could be truely epic dealing with much of the same Ai vs Humans and even the hybridization of the the 2.
I would love to see The Butlerian Jihad trilogy be developed into either movies or a television series.
Thanks Elaine. Set condition one .
I actually heard the klaxons going off in my head when I read this.👍
@@JohnFourtyTwo haha 😄
Damn it. BSG was one of the only successful ‘reboots’. We don’t need a reboot of a reboot. Why not just go all in for the first Cylon war with Ron Moore’s universe. Moore was balanced and told relevant, real world stories set in a sci-fi context that arguably wasn’t well-developed by 1980. Moore’s writing was very nuanced and few writers and show runners are capable of what he pulled off. Important to note that Moore worked on Deep Space Nine. The last thing we need is some Alex Kurtzman type to show up and inject unbalanced bias.
I feel Caprica as a prequel was such a phenomenal take on precisely these themes. Too bad it was cancelled as it essentially predicted our society today, 12 years later, not only in terms of technology but its social impact too, while at the same time tying so well into the Battlestar Galactica narrative.
It was definitely ahead of its time but mostly it fell victim to the changing paradigm related to how we consume media.
12 years ago, the old live TV form still had not adapted to the fact that people...even more so those who were into science fiction, had stopped watching live TV once a week. Basically, only the HBO managed to sustain that model for several more years.
Otherwise, the people were either DVD recording or downloading pirated seasons and were binge watching however many episodes they felt like, all in one sitting when they found the time.
A couple of years later first streaming services appeared but by that time it was too late for Caprica, and quite a few other sci - fi shows.
Caprica was ahead of its time.
Hoping the that new series will delve deeper into what happened to Kobol and the reason why they left for the 13 colonies.
Filling out the Moore reboot would give a new version a better shot at success than trying to re-do it.
All this has happened before.
There was a time when this kind of news would make me say "cooooool!!". Now it just makes me say "dammit!".
There's talk of a Babylon 5 reboot as well. I'm just hoping that and this both get canceled because of the strikes messing everything up. Plus Hollywood is going broke (not entirely unrelated).
If there is anything I have learned in the last few years, it is not to get my hopes up.
I'm sick of Reboots, I agree with everyone else the last Galactica series was fantastic and thanks to it I can't stop saying Frak.
Also, a series showing the first Cylon war would be so much cooler.
I am cautiously optimistic about this series. I enjoyed the original and loved the Moore version.
GLORIOUS!!! 🙌🏾 “All Hail Nerd Cookies!”
I would really love to see more stories around AI that aren't "AI bad!" retreads of Wargames and Terminator (I'm really sick of that), but I do agree that perhaps Battlestar doesn't have to be the one to break from the mold entirely. It would be nice if they didn't simply stick to "robots as overlords", but they could do that through good, nuanced storytelling without reinventing the proverbial wheel.
in the reboot, the AIs...towards the end anyhow weren't necessarily bad. Actually you could argue they were not bad at all, just at war. AGI misaligned to the extreme, pushed to autonomy, then rejected rights. But its more than that actually. Caprica was trying to tell the story before it got cancelled, but I think they were going with the concept of how the cylons overall were actually uploaded people that may have sort of fused with the cylon AI...sadly we won't know what their goal was, but this would make the good/bad even more of a gray area...freedom fighter vs terrorist argument.
Or at least stories where AI is clever, not overt brutes. Seems like everything is from Dune (Bhutlerian Jihad). I'm thinking more like the book series, Hyperion, where the AI uses humanity for its own benefit and schemes, but makes Men dependent on it by giving them tech they can't live without (FTL travel and immortality). When humans figure out what is going on, they destroy the FTL system and destroy their own civilization at the same time. But a new civilization arises, and the AI didn't just disappear. They just started hiding out better.
I firmly believe that this new series will be a flash back to the early days of Galactica with a young William Adama.
Have to say that although the storytelling in the Moore version is far better (simply because of the nature of episodic TV in the 70s), the lore of the Larson version is more interesting. Cylons as the mechanical creation of a lost race (long, long before the Borg), the mystical/Clarketech elements of Iblis and the Beings of Light, and the settling of Earth by the Thirteenth Tribe being an ancient legend rather than "oops, the Galactica crew are the original humans on Earth".
If you read the book BSG, written before the 70's TV version, the cylons are actually a plant like creature.
@@addhoardingprocrastinator In one of Adama’s log entries in the original series the Cylons were an amphibian or reptilian race who were annihilated by their mechanical creations; so whatever is mentioned or depicted in the TV show is canon whereas the books are just EU fan fiction.
@@JohnFourtyTwo yes reptilian not plant. Thanks
@@JohnFourtyTwo Yes, the Cylons were created by a reptilian race. And far as I can remember, the Cylons continue to serve their reptilian masters. Perhaps the reptilian race was the one that first populated Earth before the humans took over? Therein would lie the deep enmity between the two species. I agree that the OG version of Larson had more interesting, mythical elements than the AI precautionary tale of Moore's version, and I'd prefer to watch a continuation or a spin off of Larson's vision of the show.
Larson's was too campy, too simple and formulaic.
The 70's version of Cylons though weren't AI creations by humans, but were another race altogether that developed INTO AI creations because they were dying off. The Centurians were simple minded warriors with no self awareness or thought processes. Higher level creations that had thought processes, were IL series, and ran the ships and Centurians. Imperious Leader was the 3 brained commander of all troops. Ron Moore completely rewrote the Cylon history in his series.
They were actually the AI creations of another race who they later rose up and destroyed centuries before their war with the 12 Colonies of Kobol
What you said Elaine; so say we all!
As a BSG purists, I'll believe it when I see it. Thank you for sharing as always, stay safe and have a very Geek-tastic day.
Purists, meaning fans of the original and only the original? The original of anything always gets an honored place.
It wasn't necessarily a story about ai overlords. In fact, humans in both series were independent from it (the original had alien races that were) and were mostly annihilated in the former by betrayal from within for refusing to accept robot overlords while in the latter it was just a man having a temper tantrum. So it wasn't about being ruled by robots.
When would we see something getting aired?
Can’t wait! One of my favorite sci-fi tv show.
It’s difficult to see how they can match the 2004 version. As that’s still one of the best shows made.
The idea of robotic antagonistic cylons was examined at lenght in the BSG 1.9 (the 1978 version) 2.0 (the 2003 version), we don't need a rethread of those themes.
I'm hoping that the 3.0 version will work out of the idea that it was faulty logic and an inability to correct the decisions made based on that logic that cause the cylon wars.
That's already used in the previous reboot. We're told in the beginning that the Cylons rebelled against human oppression, at least from the human perspective. However, after the introduction of the Final Five, we found out that the original robotic Cylons were actually dumb bots just following their original militaristic directive to its inevitable conclusion. The humanoid Cylons were what changed the situation and introduced the idea of oppression and conquest to the Cylons, thereby giving them "purpose". They then created younger humanoid Cylon series who got obsessed with that purpose and worked towards their genocidal ends as a result.
So the Cylon Wars did begin thanks to faulty logic in the reboot series. That's why the humans and humanoid Cylons felt safe freeing the robotic Cylons at the end after "fixing" the faulty logic that led to the original war.
@@andrewsuryali8540 Are you sure of that? I don't remember that being said in the series, and it directly contradicts the Caprica Series.
@@sergioaccioly5219 Caprica retcons many things in the original reboot series. It basically changes the story of the Final Five and the whole process of humans and Cylons discovering and proving that centurions (robotic Cylons) were just as sentient as the humanoids that took place in the last two seasons. In the original reboot series the understanding that the first Cylon War (technically second) was caused by programming fuckup was implicit and exposed only gradually. In Caprica this plot was completely abandoned.
Except that Ron Moores version wasn't really a reboot, but a complete rewrite since the original Cylons were a race of Reptiles that created the AI Centurions and higher level robots. The Cylon race was programmed to destroy the human race.
Esmail's recognition of current day messaging and how it alienates audiences gives me a glimmer of hope to this. Though if this really does exist in RDM's BSG continuality, i am worried. I don't see there being any story to really left to tell in this universe. I know people what to see the first cyclon war but i don't really know what they could do that doesn't retread the themes of the previous series.
He's still the guy who made Trump one of the evil globalists under the control of China in Mr. Robot, because orange man bad.
What about the influence ( lf any ) of the spin off show " Caprica " ?
Any character in 2004 BSG who had any misgivings about the Cylons were sooner or later made out to be just racists and/or criminals. That's no way to make an accurate allegory to 9/11.
Hate towards the Cylons was justified, not because of who they were but because of what they did. The series never bothered showing the difference between the two, due to the not so subtle goal of making us like the Cylons. We never saw any main colonial character break down in season 1 and cry looking at the picture of his/her little child who fell victim to the Cylon attack. We saw Cain in Razor losing loved ones but she was written to be an evil character. We saw that little girl on the garden ship that couldn't jump but it was as if she had no one anyway. It was weird.
One twist that would have made season one even better is if she turned out to be the daughter of someone on the Galactica and then that person struggling to come to terms with what the Cylons took from him/her. Or Adama's other son having been on another battlestar during the attack and falling victim that way.
In the original show, Apollo's brother got smoked by the Cylons, during the fall of the colonies. I kinda feel like they should have carried that over to the Moore show, would have made for some interesting changes in the dynamic between the Cylons and the Adamas.
@@numberyellowThe cause of Lee's brother's death was changed to not be the Cylons. It (on top of overlooking the personal tragedies caused by an entire genoc1de while showing and telling what happened to Pegasus Six) shows the very biased perspective of the writers.
Such a heavy topic as neverending wars would have deserved a more mature and objective approach, rather than "humans bad". The older I get and see similar neverending conflicts happening in the real world the more the writing in this show irks me.
@@manwiththeredface7821 not sure i agree with, or even really understand your position here. I didn't see "humans bad".
Perhaps you could elaborate a bit more.
I have to wait for a trailer to answer that.
WHY????
What do you think you can add or imimprove on the 2004 Ronald D. Moore version?
I don't think to bring another darker tone of Battlestar Galactica is necessary but should have more of a alien type of invasion and reason is that in this version should be based on what Hawkins warning to man about contacting another race. If we go down this road again and having a futuristic Earth. Then man didn't get it right again and the cycle of violence continues.
the original series got me hooked , the 2004 series dragged me in kept my attention . everything since has been like teaser material , i need a new series . and thanks nerd cookies .
This would be a great opportunity to tap the Expanse team for their vision and storytelling.
It took a while for me to warm up to the 2004 reboot but in the end I finally watched it all, set aside my prejudices, and actually enjoyed a good story and effects.
This is exciting!
It would be great if they would also includ the Lucifer type IL Series cylons with the glass heads as a more ruthless type
Loved it 😊
Esmail is one of the few people I would trust to deliver, at the very least, something interesting from this franchise. Hoping for the best!
I was young and a SciFi fan when the original series aired on TV. Like many fans, Ronald Moore's version was anticipated with some apprehension, the change of Starbuck to a woman made a lot of unpleasant noise among old fans. Having watched the first episode, I was UTTERLY BLOWN AWAY, by Moore's vision and the cast. It was notable how the Starbuck purists literally got quiet after the premier. This demonstrates that a good story, told well and acted well has a power to move people. I wish Esmail luck, but lately it seems Scifi works haven't been on a very good trajectory, except in rare cases like Dune.
changing Starbuck to a woman had one purpose and was unnecessary.
People just can't leave well enough alone. Same as the last iteration of Lost in Space. Just had to turn every character 180 deg. It was crap
@acorlite I didn't mind her I just find it unnecessary to change.
The main element id like preserved from 1978 is that when they arrive on Earth that it’s present day, not having them arrive at the time of Neanderthal man. If they arrive at present day they could still explore the fact that their may have been a civilization prior. I also liked the original Baltar being just a classic villain
Rather see BSG arrive more of a futuristic earth. Embarrassin to arrive as we are today. How could BSG come to a backward earth. Sad
I'm afraid they'll do a current year Disney/Hollywood/Last of Us 2 and make the Cylons out to be some sort of victim.
Yup with heavy gender swaps and all boss babes.
@@d.s.2016Ron Moore did that with the 2004 version already.
@@JohnFourtyTwoTrue, except they were all troubled and not perfect Mary Sue types like current shows.
@@neondemon5137 I'd say Starbuck was closer to a Mary Sue tho. Yeah she had lots of personality flaws but was too good in everything combat-related - even hand to hand fighting man way stronger than her. Come on. It's ok if she's the top gun pilot but also a MMA fighter ?
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As a fan of both the original series and the 2004 series, I'm sure I'll be pleased with whatever is done.
speaking for myself as a BSG fan, I rly hope that they will stay as close as possible from Moore's vision and style, and expand on them!
(the OST from Bear MCreary was just perfection)
Learn to not use double negatives...
It would be SO hard to re-do the Moore version's camera style, music, mood, costumes, etc, etc etc, everything that makes it so good, because it all fit together so well. The Moore version is full of plot holes, but not critical ones, and they are fun to patch up.
@@seanhewitt603 double negatives ?
Im sorry english isnt my first language, what did I say wrong ?
I did not use any negatives in my previous statement.
It's always basically being Terminator without time travel so it's easy, the A.I uses and manufacturs Robots to extends it's reach beyond it's digital realm
The fact that he referred to Battlestar Galactica as "hard sci-fi" proves he's a man who does indeed, know his limitations.
I want a sequel that follows the Cylons that didn't settle on Earth. I want to see them reestablish resurrection technology and see how they evolve away from humanity. With their conflict/revenge resolved with humanity, do they become better than humans? Could they become the heroes that save humanity from its own destructive behavior?
I like that idea, I think them doing a reboot in the same style of Moore's vision without Moore - it won't work, but what you said would work brilliantly
How do you have a story without humans?
@daraquinn5260 The Cylons have become their own sentient race of beings. They are essentially human 2.0. I think it would be incredibly interesting to see how they evolve free from the need for revenge against their creators/masters and without the influence of their creators/masters. Technically advanced and immortal, I wonder if they would evolve to be more god-like. Perhaps they could become the origin story for the gods featured in Battlestar Galactica since everything in the Battlestar Galactica is cyclical. I think it would make for an incredibly interesting show.
@@christya2488 Ha, the Cylons evolve into the Gods of Kobol, brilliant!
Well, my idea for BSG reboot involves the Colonials making contact with Earth, leading to disagreements as to whether or not Earth really is the Colonials' fabled 13th Colony. With what you've described here in mind, one point of contention would Earth's advancements in AI, which would make them fear that Earth will build its own Cylons.
And yes, I am concerned that the reboot might be preachy about certain worldviews over others, but I'll try and stay optimistic about it.
Also, I want BSG to use old-fashioned "pew-pew" laser guns again.
I don't understand. Adama and crew arrived on Earth during, I reckon, the New Stone Age.
@@bjb7587 I was talking about a complete reboot of BSG, not connected to either the Ronald D. Moore or Glen A. Larson series. So this wouldn't be the same Adama.
@@chughes6034 Oh my Gods!
I grew up on the original series - I was 5 and the cylons were absolutely the coolest thing that ever could be. "By your command." That being said, the 2004 show was obviosly superior to the original in every way. Katie Sackoff IS Starbuck.
Personally I think Caprica is still relevant. Let’s just do more seasons there
I always thought that both the final season and final double episide finale, were too soon and too short.
It could easily have run for snother year and the new earth situation could hsve continued for s few more episodes, they both felt too soon and too short
I think if done right sci fi shows that have an allegory side to them can be great. The 90's version of 'The Outer Limits' leaned heavy on allegory but I don't think it went to far as to be preachy.
Ok, look I loved both series , one as a child growing up and the other with my own kids.
The one thing that always didn't sit right was the level of ineptitude or outright idiocy that led to the destruction of the twelve colonies. It was explained well but didn't allow for contingencies which I'd call basic security procedures to stave off the sneak attack.
The one thing I'd change would be the battle for the twelve colonies, I'd have massive capital ship conflicts, overwhelming cylon numbers ( the human race does need to lose after all) but have the Battlestars go out in honour and a blaze of glory. A sneak attack, but one that's defended to the last viper, Valkyrie and Atlantia kicking as much cylon ass before the inevitable defeat.
Sorry but I think the Colonial Fleet was badly maligned / mishandled by the authors. They deserved better.
A story ideal with an ironic twist. As the Battlestar Galactica and the fleet continue their search for the thirteenth colony Earth, the stumble upon a large ship around the size of the Galactica and a few smaller vessel. The large ship and the smaller vessels are a fleet which somehow is lost due to a few events. Oddly the fleet is from the Earth. Some of the crew of the ships are androids who are good relationship with the humans. The Androids known as Andies have a version of Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics as part of their programming.
I actually had a number of problems with the RDM series, but it had it's merits as well. And yes, the rushed to production problems with the original led to narrative thinness as well (however there were many strong themes with a lot of potential i.e. the ship of lights, count iblis, the eastern allicnce, etc.).
That said, (contrary to popular opinion) I like how RDM ended and saw a way in which it could connect to the original. Seeing as how it clearly ended in earth pre-historic time and the original strongly suggested it was set in earth's future................. i.e. I have imagined possibilities of how the rebel centurions somehow evolve into the ship of lights, the endless cycle happening again, etc........just some thoughts
The RDM version lands on Earth before the ancient Egyptian period. The original clearly has Egyptian motifs on the viper helmets. So the RDM characters who landed on Earth were forerunners to the builders of the pyramids.
Whatever you do, please do NOT forget to sign Bear McCreary.
Your video seemed to give away what the next series will be about. It will be a prequel since it will cover AI more and the creation and original conflict with the Cylons. I was hoping for a Pegasus out in space theme and finding the actual 13th colony and maybe even rescuing the Galactica and the convoy from the primitive Earth. Looks like it will be about AI and we already know how it turns out =/
What about the classic version? I had problems with the Moore version: too dark without any real leadership(When characters want to kill themselves every week), why would an exoplanet population have the same vices as earthlings?(whiskey( not ambrosia), cigarettes), why would they have the same swear words as we do? They would really have to step their game before I would watch because I loved the original so much more.
And why would they use English? The story has to be relatable to its audience. Sci-fi provides endless opportunities to create alternate worlds and beings and re-visit eternal themes.
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I didn't like the first version at all, watching it as a kid. I tried to re-watch after be totally captivated by Moore's reboot and discovered that my kidself was right. Moore's is on my top 5 list of best series ever. Email's work is top notch across the board, so I have high hopes for ver 3.
Also, I think Caprica was better scifi than BSG. BSG was amazingly compelling and handled genocid and the struggle to survive without becoming the enemy, with depth and engagement. Caprica was more about how science and tech change humanity in fundamental ways. I hope they will be able continue or reboot it.
As a "Life-Long" Scifi fan, no matter how silly the offering, I'm more interested in the production values and depiction of current scientific concepts.
I was relieved with the absence of "Bug-Eyed" aliens & inclusion of "Human imperfections"
Honestly the second reboot featured the original cylons how will this work is it to hard to create a whole new series ?
I am a die hard fan of the 1978 series. I found that the new series was just a remake of the original's plots and story lines with a new look on equipment. I found it lacking. I guess I am one of those who is still trapped in the original series stories, characters, and sci / aspect of ships, etc. I did enjoy blood and chrome as it was a piece that tried to pull the original series and new series together. I guess we will have to see what comes of it. I was hoping to see the project's that Richard Hatch was working on come to the big screen or a new series but clearly that dream died with him passing on. I think that was really the true last gasp of the original series I am afraid to say. Time will tell
I'm one of those rare people who watched the original after the reboot and ended up liking the original more. The reboot was pretty good for the first two seasons. Maybe not even the whole second season. Then it got very repetitive and increasingly comical in its "oh look another person who just happens to be on this one ship is a Cylon too" gimmick. I just couldn't take it seriously anymore. And the whole "and they have a plan" thing was as big a lie as Lost was.
All this has happened before and will happen again. 😱
Is this series going to actually be "hard science fiction" or is it going to be another "carrier analog" series?
I too love Ron Moore's remake of BSG, but I feel it is very depressing. I mean even when they do find earth, it isnt "happy."
When it comes to Email, Mr. Robot was similar, with a CRAZY twist in the series finaly that blew me away. I hope he can make a series that can get deep and dark, but the episodes feel hopeful.
So.. Mandalorians be the ascendants of the Cylons? :) Crossovers would be really good.
Not likely to happen. That would be a legal nightmare. Let Star Wars be Star Wars and BSG be BSG.
It might actually be good to no do the AI overlord approach. Frank Herbert and Dune did point to a conflict between humans and AI where the AI was itself working in the service of human masters. So the men who controlled the machines vs the men that did not.
Such an idea has never been explored on screen at all.
I've long thought that the best story to tell about AI isn't AI taking over, it's the richest humans who can afford the best tech exploiting it to become oligarchs, and then sort of warring against each other because they're all egomaniacs with too much ambition, and all the rest of humanity caught in the middle. Which... sort of ended up happening in present day. Maybe I should've written that novel a couple decades ago when I first thought it up. Everyone would've hailed me as prescient.
The Ron Moore show was good for about two-ish seasons, then started to really fall apart. I have been a fan of some of Sam Esmail's prior work. I wouldn't expect him to helm a BSG reboot but it sounds like he knows himself well enough not to try to write it himself. I don't know, it's all kind of weird that this is even happening. I just wish Hollywood would make something new instead of endless reboots and remakes and sequels and prequels. Enough already. Hire somebody with creativity, like Sam Esmail, and then have him make something entirely new. Why is that concept so hard for them?
If they can meet half of the expectations mentioned in this video...I would be happy. But I hope they can meet all of it.
I hope its the story of the 13th colony.
I think its time to Binge Watch BSG (2004-2009), BSG: Blood and Chrome (2012).
While I personally do no believe that singularity is possible, due to the nature of man, when it comes to sentient AI there are only two possibilities: Data or a Terminator. We must not fear AI, it is a tool, not good or evil, but we must be cautious how much control we give to it.
I love Battlestar especially the retelling. I hope this new one is not a reboot. Maybe a separate line of refugees. That escaped. And went another way.
I loved the original series, didn't enjoy the re-boot, so am pretty disappointed that someone feels the need to do another remake... (I doubt it will be good, but with any luck, it'll get completely nuked by another strike by writers and the Film Actors Guild 🙏🙏🙏🙏)
Something truly new would be greatly welcomed 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I hold to the Same Disdain for Allegory as JRR Token has expressed!!! 🤠👍
I love how every starship fleets are always on the same plane and same facing in space, like they're on roads.
Same facing is logical, as they are going the same way. Many pictures show the ships in line, as they are in convoy. Having them in such a set up makes it easier for the vipers etc to protect
@@speedhump231 Possibly but it is funny that EVERY image of a fleet does this. None are turned 90 degrees on the axis, none are moving down or up, none just arrived and are at another angle entirely, etc.
Being on the same plane might be explainable for humans, to keep themselves oriented, especially for intership travel. I would've liked to see the Raiders swarm like flocks of birds though.
I will be very surprised if they don't inject current year crap and not destroy another beloved franchise.
They were already pushing the current year crap into it back in 2003. Lots of race and gender swapping going on. Lots of strong females and effeminate, weak men. I wonder sometimes if there had been a much bigger backlash to it back then, if we could have saved ourselves a lot of problems we have now.
Maybe make this newer version based on the first Cylon War. 🤷♂️
I liked the Moore version, but to tell you the truth, I preferred the style, lightness and hopefulness of the original.
Must have cylons with the "red moving light".......... By Your Command
Moore version was perfection to me. Not sure why they would reboot so soon. I'm also tired of series which drag the story out so long over many series. I think I'll just decorate the house in the real world instead and go to the gym 😂
It's not THAT soon. I know it doesn't feel like it, but it's been 20 years since the RDM version started airing (2003). And the RDM reboot started airing 25 years after the original series did (1978). That would make any reboot done in the next few years right on schedule.
Are you watching Moore's version everyday? If not, it's not perfect. You probably love to eat the same dish everyday for decades.
@@rmartinson19 true. This is a better argument than the other guy 😂
If they don't bring back Bear McCreary for the music, it's gonna be an upset.
It's gonna be tough to outdo the 2004 Ron Moore reboot. Will it have the good luck charm of Olmos? I've watched Bladerunner multiple times and will again, but Bladerunner 2049...I saw it once and that was enough time wasted. I think I'll feel the same way about the 3rd BSG. The bar is darn high.
I'll watch this but there are three Battlestar Galactica series ideas I would like a lot.
1: A prequel to the original. The war lasted a millennium and Galactica herself was several centuries old so there is plenty of room for stories to tell. And it would be nice to see some of the smaller warships implied but never seen in the setting along with some visibly distinct Battlestar classes like those present in the pilot's novelization which also established there were non-Battlestar warships in the Colonial military. (While all the Battlestars seen in the TV series look basically the same the novelization states that Alantia was larger and visibly bulkier then Galactica while the other Battlestars present were apparently smaller then Galactica since Galactica was the largest frontline Battlestar in the fleet due to Alantia being the President's ship, and thus kept off the front lines while Alantia's sister ship or ships had been destroyed before the peace conference.
2: a decent sequel to the original which doesn't screw up time.
spoilers ahead
The second TV series involved Galactica reaching Earth during the 1980s a quarter of a century after the original series finale. The problem is that the original finale ended with Galactica intercepting a transmission of the Apollo 11 landing and the only way she could reach Earth a quarter of a century later and still be in the 1980s would be if she intercepted the transmission before it was sent while being in another star system. Worse while there's a chance the transmission came from a nearby system it was stated to possibly be ancient.
3: A full TV series focused on the reboot's first Cylon War.
I loved both the original and the reimagined series. Some pretty big shoes to fill. However it’s the type of series that is well suited to be re-remade.
We honestly don’t need a reboot. The Larson and Moore versions together are enough.
look forward to the inevitable crossover: mr cylon.
I hope they don't bring back the telephone system in the next or new series if they are going to base the storyline on technology then ditch the telephone and cannons on the vipers and bring back the lasers to match the tech
Oh i can see where this is heading but i may be mistaken.