The thing with Navie's videos is that they're so informative that I still watch them even though I use Ableton. I would have put him in the S tier for that alone.
I complained about videos being long if they don't need to be long. There was no way to rank at least 20 producers while giving my reasons why in less than 30 minutes. I edited this for hours to bring it down from like 2 hours.
Warren huert separates true producers from bedroom beatmakers. I learned more from him than ANY “producer” on UA-cam. He’s more so for analog and studio production. When you want to go to the next level, he has the info for you to fit in and know what you’re doing. Him and Glenn from Spectre Sounds.
Fr this tier list is so skewed towards zoomer internet age producers with low attention spans. I ALWAYS prefer a longer 20-30 minute video over a tighly edited 10 minute one, theres just more to dig into.
@@JinandGuice exactly what I was thinking. And I’m actually a fan of weaver’s content. I don’t want anyone thinking i hate watch. I appreciate that we disagree but he’s man enough to have his own opinions. But like you said. It’s way more fruit in those longer videos. That’s how you get the information to expand Into new production philosophies. I’ve watched hours of content on just EQ’s or compression alone.
This. Warren is the only one for me tbh. And White Sea because I'm Dutch and love his attitude. Can also watch an hour Valentine in his Barefoot studio.
I actually met and opened for Stranjah one time and he was a really nice dude. I also enjoy his deep dive tutorials, but i mostly listen to them at work, so the length doesn’t bother me at all. I think he should be in A tier, despite his thumbnails and when he does videos on Jump Up.
Warrens been there and done that at the highest level For recording and mixing live instruments, it’s a great channel for info. They always give away multitracks to mix, have great competitions, what’s not to like?
You almost got me worried when you started scoring people low who do longer videos haha, anyways notes taken and I also agree that shorter videos can be good. Just don't expect me to also start making UA-cam Shorts 🤣
I think Sanjay C is kind of an outlier, as you mentioned. Can understand why most of your audience wouldn't be that into him. I'm personally not all that into him anymore, either. BUT...I think he serves an important role in the YT producer community and is REALLY good at it. He's the welcoming face a noob usually finds when they type "how do I start music production" into UA-cam. And he's GREAT at the "five things you need to get started" and "how to choose your first MIDI controller" type videos. It's not the content we all are looking for - but someone's gotta do it, and I think he does a really good job at it. 🤷♂
problem is that sanjay gave me an impression that he literally never say something bad about the products he’s reviewing, and sometimes he didn’t even mention some factors that I cared about. So yeah, I used to watch his recommendation videos, but I think they are pretty useless when you are considering buying some products
Usually I hit the "don't recommend channel" button on anyone who makes dumb faces in their thumbnails (and any time I see the words "cheat code") but Sanjay has good info on sales. He smiles way too much for me but I wish him well as corny as he is.
rachel k colier made me want to download ableton. there are better tutorials but her performance videos show the potential of abeltons integrations which it's biggest advantage over other DAW... i havent seen anyone else show abletons potential like she does
Warren Huart is waaayyy better than most of your "i don't even know them entries". And i'm still waiting for MG the Future and Craftmaster Productions.
Red Means Recording has pretty much the best eurorack music on UA-cam, maybe you're just not into the glitchy idm/modular sound because he's definitely above all the competition.
We need more professionals teaching on UA-cam and not people who just figured out what their buttons do in their DAW. So many channels out there are amateurs with a case of the Dunning Kruger Effect.
Stranja is a bit boring, but he's been making DnB forever, and not just as a bedroom producer like literally everyone else on this list, but with actual big producers and OG labels, so he's got a lot of knowledge. The only thing that put a sour taste in my mouth about him is when he was whining about Dom not letting him do a tutorial on how to produce "Can't Punish Me" from scratch.
Funny.. I learned the most from produce like a pro. Watch the studio tours, long producer talks were the golden eggs are. Best content. Idk about software tuts or kid talk. Only listen to pro's, like Dame. Ghehe
Sanjay was good when he started but he's way too happy about everything. He also is like a jack of all trades and doesn't seem to have in depth knowledge about many things.
Sanjay & taetro deserve their own video. They both are shills to the max, especially Sanjay. The video should be who is more masculine, Sanjay ot taetro lol
after i got a mpc one bolo was one of my most watched producers til i seen him review the unison midi chord pack, WITH an affiliate link. i immediately unsubbed, i wasn't even around to see the drum monkey review. shameful behavior fr.
edtalenti... i usually hate people who laugh too much, because they make me feel like i don't laugh enough. am i depressed? and what about everyone else? the majority of people laughs less than edtalenti wants us to believe about his amount of laughing. maybe he thinks that he can lift people's spirit like that. i've seen some comments under his videos where people claimed that it helped them. maybe you have to be a certain type of person for it to work like that, but it certainly doesn't work on me. he has great editing skills though and it's kinda cool how he managed to build a whole image around his person with certain keywords that keep coming back in the exact same way everytime, almost as if he's kind of a robot. ayyyyeeeeee. i mean that in a good way.. sorta. because it does make him look super consistent, which makes the content look solid. so i think i can't hate edtalenti. i understand why is acting like that. just doesn't speak to me personally. i couldn't even make a tierlist like that, because to me almost every youtube producer is kinda garbage compared to the actual process of making music. no one can really capture this feeling. everyone pretends like it's all about dropping a sound and say "doooooope" but irl it's about waking up from the trance of making music at 4am realizing you still exist, take a breath and check if there's still some pizza left, before you go melodyne that vocal take for the next 2h while looking like a maniac.
I hate simon servida's face for the same reason. Dude smiles too goddamn much. I wouldn't overthink it though, some people are just have a bright, outgoing personality.
Its funny how the last one got that many dislikes but I thought it was a rather fair list.. even tho I would have put some of these even lower like Kyle Beats and Simon Servida... But I mean they could be more interesting for like beginner producers or literal children maybe.. I used to watch these people a lot some time ago and I still would consider the videos they made back when I watched their content a really good watch but as they grew their content kinda fell off and their personality changed a lot.. I cant put the finger on it because I stopped watching them alltogether really quickly but they felt pretentious and stuff like that.. But I feel like its more so the hip hop producer scene because Bishu and Eliminate for example are still making great content, even tho they dont explain what they are doing, as a more intermediate or even pro producers could get some interesting tips and tricks and techniques out of their videos here and there just by watching them cook... Where Kyle, Simon and similar youtubers just do this filming themselves and listening to their beat not really showing anything they are actually doing and then kinda get out these corny reactions that kinda feel forced and acted to me personally... Like sure they kinda make good beats whatever.. feels more like standard to me but whatever... But they act like they the biggest thing to come to music.. and the whole like Drip and the other Kyle Beats Plugin stuff really made me lose a lot of appreciation for him personally.. With simon I just feel his content became boring and uninspiring to me... All in all I would probably have made the same list like the first one except I would have put Simon and Kyle lower but I have more appreciation for Simon for sure.
Stranjahs videos are good, but too long. Informative but inconcise. Wise, yet overly verbose. Of lengthy footage, yet lack the edit. make points a plenty, but a plenty too many. Enjoyable a morsel, nauseating a platter. A kilo of a nibble, way too giga of a bite. Just a tiny scare would suffice in contrast to the Terror we endure. Valued as pounds, Naira. Short sweet and to the point, our feet amputated due to untreated long term diabetes. A fresh clean cut, matted how our dreadlocks B3. I love his content in the short form, but i think hes really really tall though, thats the vibe i get from him. hes really good with the info that he puts forth but i think he enjoys the overly longwinded and kinda repetitious way of presenting a point in a video thats made from multiple edits upon listening back to the edited product thinks," need more of the point to make the point a Barns broadside, lest it be lost in a haystack or atleast so its visible from 22.5 miles away"? I think maybe he could do with conceptualising time in a less condensed manner so that when mere mortals experience his videos, so protracted and long they wouldnt need to be. Could also be less permutative of the ideas so that when flattened to our 4 dimensions they dont lay end to end like 3 months of working days. taking the time to perfect the beat, but he still gets love from his peeps. on youtube, is probably making him create longer form material ironicising the original intent of the platform. Essays on Essays regarding Bass design extruded beyond a logical extent as a means to make videos with which to anchor a basis of camera staring speech doing re the thing im doing type beat. PS Stranjah is love, short/long/multi form. Hi.
I'm an MPC head, and no, he shouldn't. He has his own company now, 16 beats, and promotes it way way too much, over solutions that can be better than his sample packs. Nothing's wrong with reviewing, nothing wrong with education, but one shouldn't mix them. Imagine if Roland or Splice would start to review Yamaha and 16 levels. No. 16 levels is direct competition to Splice, and interestingly Ave started not liking Splice at the right time. He should be excluded if anything. Reviews and education about the tools you use should be honest and independent.
@@OperculumAudio that's not really the point, people that are in competition with a brand should not present themselves as "just trying to help you with my honest opinion" - it is actually illegal. Coca-Cola cannot run negative adertisement about Pepsi - it's the law. Ave might be "a Beast" - I did like him before, now he makes me cringe, but it's irrelevant.
I will not rest until I am number 1.
But thank you for your kind words, my love
The thing with Navie's videos is that they're so informative that I still watch them even though I use Ableton. I would have put him in the S tier for that alone.
thank you bebe
I appreciate that, cheers! Gonna take that feedback with the naming of the channel as well 😅
So glad to see In The Mix on the list. Dude's content is legendary for all types of FL producers
You did not spend this whole episode complaining about long videos in a 30 min video 🤣🤣🤣
bazinga bitch! 😂
the irony is strong
I complained about videos being long if they don't need to be long. There was no way to rank at least 20 producers while giving my reasons why in less than 30 minutes. I edited this for hours to bring it down from like 2 hours.
@@Weaverbeats Honestly I like long videos. Stranjah is one of my favs. I just wanted to bust your balls a lil 🤣
@@Weaverbeats that's completely fair, I agree with your position. (thanks for consolidating your streams)
You tell it how it is man & that’s why we love you!
I think you hit the nail on the head for all the ones that I know!
LOL subscriber requirement is like a you must be this tall to ride sign at a theme park
Warren huert separates true producers from bedroom beatmakers. I learned more from him than ANY “producer” on UA-cam. He’s more so for analog and studio production. When you want to go to the next level, he has the info for you to fit in and know what you’re doing. Him and Glenn from Spectre Sounds.
Fr this tier list is so skewed towards zoomer internet age producers with low attention spans. I ALWAYS prefer a longer 20-30 minute video over a tighly edited 10 minute one, theres just more to dig into.
@@JinandGuice exactly what I was thinking. And I’m actually a fan of weaver’s content. I don’t want anyone thinking i hate watch. I appreciate that we disagree but he’s man enough to have his own opinions. But like you said. It’s way more fruit in those longer videos. That’s how you get the information to expand Into new production philosophies. I’ve watched hours of content on just EQ’s or compression alone.
Every time I watch him I fall asleep
This. Warren is the only one for me tbh. And White Sea because I'm Dutch and love his attitude. Can also watch an hour Valentine in his Barefoot studio.
His videos are the university of producer UA-cam @@Weaverbeats Don't throw shade my G, not with a 33min video
I actually met and opened for Stranjah one time and he was a really nice dude. I also enjoy his deep dive tutorials, but i mostly listen to them at work, so the length doesn’t bother me at all.
I think he should be in A tier, despite his thumbnails and when he does videos on Jump Up.
I like Warren Huart but not for tutorials but rather for the documentary content he has which is really good.
Comment gang has spoken, its Warren Huart lol. You can't call somebody with 700K Subs unwatchable
Bwb is unwatchable and has 1 mill
Warrens been there and done that at the highest level
For recording and mixing live instruments, it’s a great channel for info.
They always give away multitracks to mix, have great competitions, what’s not to like?
He has 3 people in his videos doing the exact same content to extend his watch time.
Just mixing in general.
You almost got me worried when you started scoring people low who do longer videos haha, anyways notes taken and I also agree that shorter videos can be good. Just don't expect me to also start making UA-cam Shorts 🤣
I feel like In The Mix and Navie D are just necessary viewing for any beginner FL users out there, immediate S tier for me
Yeah, the 2 most important teachers to learn from. I think ScaleAudio also explains very clearly.
I think Sanjay C is kind of an outlier, as you mentioned. Can understand why most of your audience wouldn't be that into him. I'm personally not all that into him anymore, either. BUT...I think he serves an important role in the YT producer community and is REALLY good at it. He's the welcoming face a noob usually finds when they type "how do I start music production" into UA-cam. And he's GREAT at the "five things you need to get started" and "how to choose your first MIDI controller" type videos. It's not the content we all are looking for - but someone's gotta do it, and I think he does a really good job at it. 🤷♂
problem is that sanjay gave me an impression that he literally never say something bad about the products he’s reviewing, and sometimes he didn’t even mention some factors that I cared about. So yeah, I used to watch his recommendation videos, but I think they are pretty useless when you are considering buying some products
Usually I hit the "don't recommend channel" button on anyone who makes dumb faces in their thumbnails (and any time I see the words "cheat code") but Sanjay has good info on sales. He smiles way too much for me but I wish him well as corny as he is.
You missed the best producers … Bound to Divide … I’m shocked not to see him on the list.
rachel k colier made me want to download ableton. there are better tutorials but her performance videos show the potential of abeltons integrations which it's biggest advantage over other DAW... i havent seen anyone else show abletons potential like she does
They should all thank you because you're the reason why I found their channels
Underdog has some great content I just wish he focused on different genres. His course is also great.
Thank you for the Navie D rating. My dude has taken tons of feedback to improve his videos, provides useful information, and those arms… sheesh
Lmao true
@@Weaverbeats yeah! thank you for including him. i agree w the rating
I just started watching you a cpl weeks ago. I could instantly tell youre an MDE fan based on the humor lol. 25:17 confirmed
Dodged a bullet by the skin on my teeth, I make long nerdy-ass boring videos haha
Warren Huart is waaayyy better than most of your "i don't even know them entries". And i'm still waiting for MG the Future and Craftmaster Productions.
He's incredibly boring. Neither of those channels meet the sub requirement to be ranked 😵💫
ey, you playin with the "produce like a pro" guy put some respek
Rachel K is the reason OVOX was my first plugin purchase. What a mistake!
Red Means Recording has pretty much the best eurorack music on UA-cam, maybe you're just not into the glitchy idm/modular sound because he's definitely above all the competition.
yea rmr is great
I don't fuck with most of these channels and have legit never even heard of/seen a bunch of them.
Do:
Dan Worrall
Baphometrix
Frank Pole
SeamlessR
Sol State
Au5
Multiplier
We need more professionals teaching on UA-cam and not people who just figured out what their buttons do in their DAW. So many channels out there are amateurs with a case of the Dunning Kruger Effect.
'They need at least 50k subs.' *Phew, I can breathe again.*
Stranja is a bit boring, but he's been making DnB forever, and not just as a bedroom producer like literally everyone else on this list, but with actual big producers and OG labels, so he's got a lot of knowledge. The only thing that put a sour taste in my mouth about him is when he was whining about Dom not letting him do a tutorial on how to produce "Can't Punish Me" from scratch.
If you want to do more synthfluencers do Alex Ball and Audio Pliz
Can't wait till Dogeda makes it in these lists
This what you start figuring out when you quit weed😶🌫️🤙
No Dylan Tall Chief? 😢
DAN WORALL puts all these dudes to shame.
i kinda want you to get Levi Niha on your next lineup, but he been MIA for a minute. he has a great channel tho
bolo was in that apple event video for the M2 Mac mini.
EdTalenti just makes you wan't to smile when you watch him work :) Good list of producers there, you did a good job for a change this time :P
AYYEEEE!
Damn guess I just suck didn't make it again lmao. Dislike in coming 😂
Where the hell is Busy? Coulda filled that S-tier up a bit more.
Dash Glitch is awesome. His videos are really informative and I learn a lot.
I'm in the video, I made it in life. I can die at peace
Funny.. I learned the most from produce like a pro. Watch the studio tours, long producer talks were the golden eggs are. Best content. Idk about software tuts or kid talk. Only listen to pro's, like Dame. Ghehe
In the Mix is the 🐐‼‼‼
Oh you also had a typo in your tier list title , I'll let it slide this 1 time :)
AU5 left out on both vids?
Go Taetro Video on why he stop using Maschine Mark III he trashes AKAI at the 28 min mark
It isn't news, but it'll have to do.
asd is the pinnacle of youtube producers
Part 3
pov: criticise lenght of videos and end up making 33minute video
(personally i like long form video more)
You missed out not introducing yourself as "massive ranker."
Alice is def S tier, her content is way more useful to me than most of these youtubers for some reason.
oh hell yeah let me go make some food before i watch this
Sanjay was good when he started but he's way too happy about everything. He also is like a jack of all trades and doesn't seem to have in depth knowledge about many things.
Dang lowkey Bummed BroBeatz not up here. Dude is good and makes helpful content. Just doesn’t show his face
Wait.. I’m not on this video? 😔
Gotta rank reid higher. He made start using ableton.
Sanjay & taetro deserve their own video. They both are shills to the max, especially Sanjay. The video should be who is more masculine, Sanjay ot taetro lol
Dan Worral is the best for creative engineering and you should check him out.
i want to be in the same tier as Kyle Beats
Glen Fricker?
weaver is the peoples producer
The penis thing makes me love Mr Bill even more. What's wrong with you?
i love your channel but bro ..really.. reid and warren are big time
about to be a banger🔥
Jeremy Blake (Red Means Recording) is the best by far.
Julian is S tier
after i got a mpc one bolo was one of my most watched producers til i seen him review the unison midi chord pack, WITH an affiliate link. i immediately unsubbed, i wasn't even around to see the drum monkey review. shameful behavior fr.
Do me next... and roast me 😂
I really appreciated warren's videos when I first started out producing. Now I can't watch them anymore
Where’s gami?
Hey Buddy I hope you’re doing great love the content💙
Complains about long videos wasting time. Wastes time repeating his complaint about wasting time.
Curtis King blocks people for no Reason and theres for is the worst of all of these side by side with Busyworksbeats.
weener beat
Unsubscribed u lost me w tha list making brah
Unsubscribed u lost me w tha list making brah
if andrew huang isnt top 4
edtalenti... i usually hate people who laugh too much, because they make me feel like i don't laugh enough. am i depressed? and what about everyone else? the majority of people laughs less than edtalenti wants us to believe about his amount of laughing. maybe he thinks that he can lift people's spirit like that. i've seen some comments under his videos where people claimed that it helped them. maybe you have to be a certain type of person for it to work like that, but it certainly doesn't work on me. he has great editing skills though and it's kinda cool how he managed to build a whole image around his person with certain keywords that keep coming back in the exact same way everytime, almost as if he's kind of a robot. ayyyyeeeeee. i mean that in a good way.. sorta. because it does make him look super consistent, which makes the content look solid. so i think i can't hate edtalenti. i understand why is acting like that. just doesn't speak to me personally.
i couldn't even make a tierlist like that, because to me almost every youtube producer is kinda garbage compared to the actual process of making music. no one can really capture this feeling. everyone pretends like it's all about dropping a sound and say "doooooope" but irl it's about waking up from the trance of making music at 4am realizing you still exist, take a breath and check if there's still some pizza left, before you go melodyne that vocal take for the next 2h while looking like a maniac.
I hate simon servida's face for the same reason. Dude smiles too goddamn much. I wouldn't overthink it though, some people are just have a bright, outgoing personality.
Its funny how the last one got that many dislikes but I thought it was a rather fair list.. even tho I would have put some of these even lower like Kyle Beats and Simon Servida... But I mean they could be more interesting for like beginner producers or literal children maybe.. I used to watch these people a lot some time ago and I still would consider the videos they made back when I watched their content a really good watch but as they grew their content kinda fell off and their personality changed a lot.. I cant put the finger on it because I stopped watching them alltogether really quickly but they felt pretentious and stuff like that..
But I feel like its more so the hip hop producer scene because Bishu and Eliminate for example are still making great content, even tho they dont explain what they are doing, as a more intermediate or even pro producers could get some interesting tips and tricks and techniques out of their videos here and there just by watching them cook... Where Kyle, Simon and similar youtubers just do this filming themselves and listening to their beat not really showing anything they are actually doing and then kinda get out these corny reactions that kinda feel forced and acted to me personally... Like sure they kinda make good beats whatever.. feels more like standard to me but whatever... But they act like they the biggest thing to come to music.. and the whole like Drip and the other Kyle Beats Plugin stuff really made me lose a lot of appreciation for him personally.. With simon I just feel his content became boring and uninspiring to me...
All in all I would probably have made the same list like the first one except I would have put Simon and Kyle lower but I have more appreciation for Simon for sure.
baaaaaaaaaabe your levels. when you're rating everyone else's editing, too. lol
I love it More Drama!!!!! This is better than the fake ass OSCARS!!
Weaver slow walking onto the tierlist slapping a bunch of people
where's riooooo
Nathan, to me, is the most cringe of all em
ANDREW HUANG IS THE BEST
u don't even had the best one as an example =) the best one is Ruffin Studio =)
stranjah’s stuff was good and i subscribed but then i saw some nft or crypto stuff and i unsubbed like minutes later lol
Where ramzoid at
Self report
He's there
Stranjahs videos are good, but too long. Informative but inconcise. Wise, yet overly verbose. Of lengthy footage, yet lack the edit. make points a plenty, but a plenty too many. Enjoyable a morsel, nauseating a platter. A kilo of a nibble, way too giga of a bite. Just a tiny scare would suffice in contrast to the Terror we endure. Valued as pounds, Naira. Short sweet and to the point, our feet amputated due to untreated long term diabetes. A fresh clean cut, matted how our dreadlocks B3. I love his content in the short form, but i think hes really really tall though, thats the vibe i get from him. hes really good with the info that he puts forth but i think he enjoys the overly longwinded and kinda repetitious way of presenting a point in a video thats made from multiple edits upon listening back to the edited product thinks," need more of the point to make the point a Barns broadside, lest it be lost in a haystack or atleast so its visible from 22.5 miles away"? I think maybe he could do with conceptualising time in a less condensed manner so that when mere mortals experience his videos, so protracted and long they wouldnt need to be. Could also be less permutative of the ideas so that when flattened to our 4 dimensions they dont lay end to end like 3 months of working days. taking the time to perfect the beat, but he still gets love from his peeps. on youtube, is probably making him create longer form material ironicising the original intent of the platform. Essays on Essays regarding Bass design extruded beyond a logical extent as a means to make videos with which to anchor a basis of camera staring speech doing re the thing im doing type beat. PS Stranjah is love, short/long/multi form. Hi.
@NoirEtBlancVie dont get enough love
Ave should be at #1 at least.. he brings a lot of tutorial beat making content aligned to us MPC heads...
I'm an MPC head, and no, he shouldn't. He has his own company now, 16 beats, and promotes it way way too much, over solutions that can be better than his sample packs. Nothing's wrong with reviewing, nothing wrong with education, but one shouldn't mix them. Imagine if Roland or Splice would start to review Yamaha and 16 levels. No. 16 levels is direct competition to Splice, and interestingly Ave started not liking Splice at the right time. He should be excluded if anything. Reviews and education about the tools you use should be honest and independent.
@@hotel_yugoslavia bro you destroyed them 😭
Ave is a Beast
@@OperculumAudio that's not really the point, people that are in competition with a brand should not present themselves as "just trying to help you with my honest opinion" - it is actually illegal. Coca-Cola cannot run negative adertisement about Pepsi - it's the law. Ave might be "a Beast" - I did like him before, now he makes me cringe, but it's irrelevant.