Well, music is a science, and in science a theory is more proven and acknowledged than laws are. So there’s an argument to be made there. Not by me, but by someone far smarter than me.
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Omnisphere is indeed overrated. Half of the patches in it are unusable in anything other than experimental or film scoring. The hardware patches are ok, but I can find better ones from Arturia. And the others (which are very few) is somewhat good. I tried Omnisphere and didn't see the need to get it.
I think people like omnisphere due to the size of the library not the quality of individual presets. It's easier and less expensive to manage a single plugin like omnisphere vs. having 100 kontakt libraries. However, if there is a bigger/better sample based library vsti I'd love to know.
@@rebeccawhite5333 With the Kontakt libraries you could use the Komplete Kontrol software to browse all the presets in one place as long as they support NKS (which most of them do).
Everyone sleeps on the fact that Omnisphere is absurdly powerful for sound design. The amount of modulation, the number of different filters, and the customization of those filters (configurable in series or in parallel), the frequency modulation/ring/granular sections, and added to that the sound quality of each individual oscillator. Not only that, you can stack up to 8 different patches into one instance. Mix that in with the fact that you can use samples for synthesis as well, AND hardware integration if you have analog modern synths. For a professional music producer interested in sound design it's a ridiculously great value. That said, if you only care about presets then sure I can see how it's overrated.
Why is Omnisphere 620usd? And Spectrasonics has never had a sale and never will. Not a good company. Just hyped up by the hip hop community, Keyspace sounds horrible compared to the 3 Kontakt Piano's actually that sound real. More people should be calling out Spectrasonics for not having sales. Trillian, Keyscape and Omnisphere have never gone on sale even once yet. And they are becoming outdated now. I wouldn't use them personally and will never purchase them.
Omnisphere is definitely overrated in general especially for ppl who just like presets which was me for the longest time. I didn’t realize its full potential until i started to actually understand how to better tailor my sound… i should probably go spend more time in there tbh since im still growing in being able to design the sounds i want from scratch. Gotta get my money’s worth somehow
lol i feel that. Def am liking using the same waveforms I gravitate towards to start with in different synths and having fun hearing the different outcomes though
Omnisphere is actually pretty stellar. For one thing, there is a kind of integration that is possible with other Spectrasonics programs that is fairly amazing. The way this can connect with Keyscape and Trilian, plus the "Sonic Extensions"... is an amazing amount of power. It's not inexpensive stuff, but it is packed with versatility that's quite deep. All that being said, it is not for everyone. Those who can afford Omnisphere and all the Spectrasonics products that integrate with it ... and also own other synths and VSTi's, likely understand exactly how/why Omnisphere will serve them best. Really, there is nothing else like it out there.
Music Theory is necessary. As one famous composer said you learn the rules so that you can understand how to break them, but first you need to learn them first.
I've owned Omni for years and I do use it quite often, my biggest issue with it is the UI though. I think it is super ugly and unintuitive. It is an absolute powerhouse once you know how to use it properly, but it kinda does things its own way for the sake of doing things its own way, and conceals a lot of its features behind strange tabs and stuff rather than make it all accessible,
@@mikeexits I've got a top end SSD on a 5950x with maxed out RAM and it still takes a second or two to flip through sounds. It's not terrible, but its not instant.
I gotta agree with the guy saying Splice isn't that good. The upsided are cool but the downsides made me opt out of it quick. Particularly, the fact that you can't retain access to the samples purchased once you unsubscribe and the issue of "overused" samples.
I found more use in ANALOG LAB V + the loads of banks that you can find. I recommend it to anyone especially now that its on sale for $99. Its basically the best of arturias V collection which imo has more usable sounds than omni.
music theory isn't even a set of guidelines, it's literally just a way of analyzing music. like if you want to make pop music, you can use it to find out what the general conventions of pop music are, and you can follow them. but it's not saying that you have to or should do anything. if it's limiting you, then that's because you're letting it limit you
@@bfreitas456 dude you missed the point. I've had producers with placements and record deals tell me this at the studio I used to work at. Its supposed to be hot takes. Its like when people say 12 sounds better stock than 20. The limiter on 12 is set +5db
Another comment: the best DAW is the DAW that works best for you. So it might be Ableton or it might be FL Studio or it might be something entirely different. People need to stop being tribal about everything and anything.
People definitely do cut too many lows out though. This makes the track sound smaller if you could use that adjective. Cutting lows with more precision / consideration to maintain more weight to each element, with levelling and some frequency side chaining (fast attack / release) is where it's at.
....pitching Kicks pretty much changes it. Sometimes, randomly pitching kicks gets you something you like, but alot of times if you need to repitch the kick in the "mix" its trouble
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You can use side chain to help emphasize grooves it’s not only a mixing technique and in my opinion I like compression side chain more than LFO side chains created from an automation club manipulating a volume knob compression side chain is easier to get bounce out of faster
I'm a composer and omnisphere is an essential tool if you know how to use it and we prefer simple ui and not something that will hog the graphics, not something producer's absolutely need
naw for 4/4 type beats or anything danceable you want to have the kick tuned to the bass or keey of the track because thats the majority of the beat aand the most prominent element outside of the baseline itself but the kick also has low end in it so if its a constant kick and its out of tune the beat will always sound "off"
"The norm if understanding music theory" is something that was more prevalent until the 1990's. I think the "norm" nowadays is that most people making music at home probably don't know a whole lot about theory...
Also , I am glad to hear someone say that omnisphere is overrated ! Falcon 2 is WAY WAY better once you get your head around it , so much more professional on so many levels , Omnispher just has a really good sample libary to layer away with while you spend ages trying to get an ebnvelope shape the way you want it
I'm a Omni user for > 10 years... it has a great UI and amazing layering features. If you are into sound design, it is def. a great synth. I find it as easy to design sounds from scratch as with Serum, but you get 100 more features. The patches are very well usable for scoring, film, chillout, ambient out of the box. But you get GB of highest quality samples in there to build sounds from samples. Thats a pretty cool and handy thing. The FX in Omni is amazing too, compared to other Synth fx algos... well, so, if I want some standard stuff, I go for Serum or Spire or Sylenth1, but if I need something unique, original, with great depth that cuts thru, I design with Omni and it nevef disappoints. Also, I got a huge Update for free Omni 2 to Omni 2.5. Its a very fair business model. Omni is also good for stage use as you can overlay layers for a piano per range/section etc.
@@tryingtotryistrying makes sense yeah, same for Omni here, but I don't Trillian nor Keyscape; I'm using Modartt Pianoteq instead for keys.. and bass.. well is synth bass ;)
2:50 I come up/find chords progressions and immediately am like yup Bryson Tiller used it there in one of his biggest hits or thats in this J Cole song*or if i borrow that chord progression from Bryson Tiller and then just so happened to put it in the style of Logic then I created a Bryson Tiller x Logic type beat
Don't worry about music theory. Just go by feel. It's better. Especially when spending all day on a note to sound good when working on your guitar solo.
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So here is my take on the Omnisphere thing, I can understand for the producers who are no genuinely into full out sound design and just really use presets and i think that is perfectly fine as well. But if you enjoy the aspects of sound design Omnisphere is a power house especially for people who do more Movie and TV etc etc, So while i get beat making caused the presets to be a bit overrated i for sure recommend you put a day or 2 a side every week or so and dabble with using your own samples even it can get crazy pretty fast man. So yeah i don't think it's truly overrated i think it's just the preset's that give it a bad name these days even though they sound great just very over used in modern beat making. as far as the Nexus 2 comparison LOL yeah nah not even close.
Lol that first comment blew my mind, you can clearly hear, AND see a difference in SOFT clipping vs hard limiting and compression. Huge difference there, I would recommend just experimenting.
I dont think they were talking about it in the artistic aspect of it but in the fact that it's easier to tame peaks with a clipper than with a compressor/limiter and thats why people go for clippers
7:47 compressors simply don't sound all the same. that being said you only need a digital one and two or three emulations (those will vary in sound A LOT)
2:06 u said word for word what I was gonna say And you can’t complain about type beat producers with “no creativity”, but then complain about type beats sounding different
Phase shift on the master mix buss wont cause any issues because it shifts the phase equally for each component of the audio. So it can't cause any phase cancellation. Phase issues arise when phase shifts happen on a per-track basis, this can cause cancelling between the tracks. Like you might have a bass and kick drum that are sitting together really tight. And applying EQ(or whatever) to one track may create some phase cancellation that wasnt there before. Which can fuck up your low end. (thats just the most obvious example)
true but you also have to consider that phase shift causes the waveform to change, which means that non linear processing like saturation/clipping will sound different afterwards
Omnisphere is impressive in many ways but I stopped using it since the presets often take up to much space in the mix and it often gave me a headache when trying to get it sound good together with everything else. On its own it sounds awesome. Yeah go on and blame my mixing skills. I'm too old to care.😅
Regarding clipping "and understanding compression" Is the song good? If so, no one gives a ƒµçk Side note, if you're attempting some specific kind of sound via some specific workflow then yes there can be a right and wrong way to do it. I'm just saying if we're talking about clipping vs a limiter - and you like one or the other - there is no wrong or right
When people think, “Good sounding Low end reverb” they’re really just hearing highlassed, high-end reverberation of the higher frequencies in a bass sound, like the click of a kick drum or buzzyness of a synth bass. Other than that or some experimental sh!t, there’s no such thing as good sounding low-end reverb in a mix.
I tighten my lows and they sound neat. Not a fan of yuge droning bass that overpowers the synths.. that's like dowsing a bad steak from golden corral in a1 lol
When I first tried Omnisphere I got three tracks from the first ten presets. Every time I go back it's the same. Such inspiration! But if you are doing genre based music I guess if the software doesn't match your chosen genre then it's of limited use. You'd be better going for something called [my genre]Pro.
I was taught that the performance should be free, the editing is just the right place at the right time, and mastering should be what you want the experience to be at the end.
Omnisphere is black and white. Either it has these incredible sounds that sound as good as hardware, but there are so many 'filler' presets which are just useless. I've spent days going through thousands of presets and favouriting only 75, with only 30 with a 5 star rating. Also, some packs are just terrible, total rip off. But I'd say Keyscape is pretty much on par as one of the best piano and Rhodes plugins on the market. The only issue is very high CPU usage with some patches. One great bass patch will have barely any CPU, then I found this amazing soaring lead patch, but It's so multilayered (Clearly a lot of effort was put in), if I play 4 notes it uses 30% of my i9 MBP in Ableton. Even one note will end a session. Thank God that Ableton 11 can multithread Omnisphere, it can't do a lot of other big name plugins, so my Mac Studio is great. Finally, the main issue with Omnisphere is the price. At least upgrades are free and really good. If you get it plus Keyscape and some great sound packs you're looking at $800.
Yep Keyscape is pretty awesome. And contrary to what WeaverBeats said, I find myself liking a lot of Omnisphere’s presets as I thumb through them. Problem is, I can’t think of how I’d use them, so I rarely ever reach for Omnisphere when I’m producing. I definitely can’t see a use for it making beats except for maybe pads but I have other “lighter” synths that are as good or better.
@@Nightowl427272 I actually use a few presets in a few tracks and heard one of them used in a track on a MixMag session mix just last week. It's a great sound. Only uses 15% of CPU per one note on an i9 2019 MBP. So I what I do is I find presets I like and save them in my Ableton folder as Ableton groups, as I think the Omnisphere preset manager is total garbage and simply broken in some areas. Quicker access to the sounds might make you use them more.
@@RJ1J - You’re right, the preset manager just isn’t friendly when it comes to organizing and accessing favorite sounds. Now that I think of it, that’s probably my biggest beef with Omni, I simply don’t want to open it up, it feels like a chore. U-he’s preset manager is my favorite - traditional tags/folders…etc but it’s color-categories of favorites is superb, I love Eric Persing, the man has had such an influence on music during his decades-long career but Omnisphere definitely needs an overhaul.
@@tryingtotryistrying “take off all the fx minus EQ.” Absolutely, that’s a good rule to follow with most all software instruments actually…saves CPU resources, and definitely cleans up the sound…especially reverbs.
If you’re kick is “proper,” and a relatively “normal” pitch, the transient should be short enough that tuning is bordering irrelevant. There are instances, but in the majority of musical scenarios, it isn’t going to matter all that much. If you’re in the same key relative interval, you can move on. You should be more concerned with the decay time of your kick’s sub-frequencies. If the transient is too short to push your side chains, you can always copy a pattern and create a dummy chain to control sidechain event timings. Edit to say, ProQ protected my family from an oncoming attack of locust and saved the Fall harvest.
Omnisphere is really lame until you start making your own patches with it. It has great waveforms and can easily rival Serum with the sheer amount of availability. It has a ton of versatility with the number of FX plugins, features, modulation, and so on. Really if you can't make something cool with Omnisphere it's a skill issue and not a limitation of the plugin.
on the whole low cutting thing, the power, weight and body of the sound lies in the lows. even if you can barely hear the impact the low cut is having, it's a cumulative reduction of weight. some genres want a clean sound, but don't high pass your distorted electric guitars, for instance. my rule of thumb, is high pass when things are muddy, and only until the muddiness is gone
Gain sidechain is only viable for simple kick patterns like four on the floor. If you're making trap or something it's not gonna work well for you. Much better to use automation if you have something more complex.
I hate it personally, but the pads are all over tv and theres a lot of tv presets. There's a show that rhymes with PAW AND BORDER whose guy unabashedly uses omni presets constantly. It sounds decent. The doink doink is an m-1 or d-50 preset with the key tapped twice (I forget which I used to have both of them and I get them confused) though. Contra whatever BS he claims this week.
Your reactions to the hot takes are so on point. This channel will definitely blow up at some point for sure. It's really a one of kind type of thing now, I don't see anyone else making audio production funny so patience my friend. You'll for sure hit it big soon. Massive haters just hating until the masses find this. haha.
Every beat, instrumental or song is different and requires different levels of mastering. I made one beat which sounded very quiet when exported and the next beat was about 3 x louder.
You gotta do it all differently if you have different synths bc some synths react strange to certain types of compression. Kalimbas and romplers are touchy w multiband compression. Those are best w standard sidechaining
l use Dune 3, Zenology 2, and Seurm, along with XO, Addictive Drums, Ample Guitar, Modo Bass, and Addictive Keys...those are my main Instruments...I reight Pop Tech/ Funck genra....Im not impressed with Omni...at all.."Some of the Presets might be Nice" but alot of them dont sound new enough.....I think....having a Collective Group of instruments you use together are better for writing instead of being so such an 'Omnisphere Zombie...LOL"
Yeah I have no idea what genre's my music fall into. I just create what sounds great. Of all the plugins I've tried, VPS Avenger has the best presets hands down. Probably because you can create an entire mix with 1 plugin. People who don't use clippers probably only do it missionary style.
Regarding the first comment clippers and limiter aren’t the same thing limiters have a ratio of 20-50(which is why when you limit something sometimes the output will temp go over the thresh you set). Clippers have a ratio of INFINITY:1(which mean the output will never go over the thresh you set). Also compression(assuming your ratio is 10 or less) can’t reduce atk they ONLY shape it by that I mean if you have a TP of 0 and comp with the fastest atk/rel your TP will still be 0 assuming you level match no matter what thresh you set. ONLY clippers and limiters can actually reduce your TP so the first comment is just straight up wrong. The reason why pretty much all master Eng use clipper is to reduce unneeded transient material while still maintaining the same rms limiters can do the same also but they WILL ALWAYS let some transient material through due to the small ratio amount.
It's possible people are going at the "hot takes" from different perspectives. Some are giving opinions and some are giving you rediculous things that are hot garbage takes just to be funny.
People who like to get striaght to making music vs those who like to create their sounds or tailor, will have different opinions about Omnisphere and other vst/pluggins that are geared more to sound creation/design. It depends on the person. I have Omnisphere but I rarely use it..I actually wish i got Electra2 instead.
@@Weaverbeats I see what you mean, you are right. I guess Sound Extensions and Keyscape Creative can add a lot of good presets too. There are also 3rd party libraries but I didn't try them yet. Arturia collection is a must have as well, but I feel their sound require more Post Processing than Omnisphere. It's maybe the genre that makes the difference.
This is an interesting clip , past few days Ive been trying to tune a kick drum perfectly just because of experimentation and I realised part of what makes a kick sound like a kick are quick and or slower pitch changes . I actually managed to make that perfectly-ish tuned kick and it ended up being the most lifeless kick that camouflaged itself in the mix the first chance it got .
The more great things there are, the less people appreciate what you can use. 99% of you worry more about your tools than what your making. Omnisphere kicks ass. So does A LOT of other stuff these days. Take a deep breath. Quit complaining. Enjoy.
Spectrasonics has never had a sale... ever! that says a lot about a company. All their software is outdated now. There are a lot of piano's I would rather have than Keyscape.
a lot of the samples in Omnisphere are from Spectrasonics sample cds from the 90s...not sure if that's a good or a bad thing but I think that proves your point. 😂
@@trevor_mounts_music LOL omg figures. Meanwhile I have a library made in George Lucas skywalker studios by real horn players when it was on sale 50 percent off for less than 300$ , actual professional samples. Spectrasonics is crap
It’s not overrated it’s the absolute 🐐 people who whine about it just use the same tired bell preset they found on “ 10 famous omni presets” videos instead of diving into the synthesise where the real magic is.
@@Weaverbeats it can do every type of synthesis at 4 layers per patch, it’s got 8 LFO’s 34 filter types per part and the best fx on any synth ever made. The only thing that is even in the same ballpark is Pigments 3 and even then omni 2.8 makes that look like a child’s toy.
@@Weaverbeats I agree with your take for upcoming producers, if you don't know how to fully take advantage of omnisphere and want to use it only for presets then it's definitely not the right plugin for you. However, if you love sound design, care about the quality of the oscillators (which in my opinion Omnisphere's sound amazing and has such a huge variety of options), and love different kinds of syntheses (Ring modulation, FM, Granular, and complex mod matrices) then I'd argue Omnisphere offers tremendous value. It can sound as good as analog synths, with so much more flexibility. That being said if you are currently not earning a living through music, it may be wiser to invest that money elsewhere for the time being. To me though, Omnisphere is my #1 production tool.
@@trackaccino5724 completely agree. It’s the signal flow that gives that analog feel. If I was a beginner just playing around and learning I’d get Vital and then Serum. But long term there literally is no better VST instrument if you are taking this shot seriously.
I think you meant *PRESET* kittens. You can sound design in any synth, but whatever makes you feel good about spending 500 dollars. 😭 I've literally been sound designing for over 10 years but go off queen 👸 👏
@@Weaverbeats I def meant preset lol. also I don't buy any software, so it's no need for me justify any purchases. No other synth can do what omni can in a single patch. 4 channels per patch and you can layer like 10 patches together in the multi browser and use 40 waveforms or samples at once, as a single sound. The granular synthesis is also the best I've used and I've been sound designing for over 15 years. You can also control omni with a hardware synth without any scripting. You can load keyscape in omni too, and then process the samples using all the omnisphere effects and modlutaions. You can't even come close to what omni can do in any other synth. Is it necessary? No. Is it overkill? Absolutely. It's still the best there is, tho.
Unpitched kick drums sound cheap. IDK why anyone would want to have the most important part of their drums be untuned. If you make your own kick drums you'll know immediately that pitching your kicks is super important for timbre, sound design, and cohesion in your mix. It's literally just another kind of skill issue, people don't know how important it is cause they just use presets.
I mean yeah I FL and Ableton do the exact same thing but both dolls have their advantages when it comes to a workflow of a certain genre I would say Ableton is better for Dub Step base house in any music that you will be making a lot of automation clips with due to the fact that when you create the automation clips it’s already in the playlist underneath the Sound of the pattern you’re trying to manipulate like for example FL studio is extremely annoying creating automation clips like literally I was getting kind of annoyed using it while making a base house track I’m doing because when you create a lot of automation clips it really helps a lot to stay organized but whenever I create my automation clips and I go to look for the automation clips in the playlist it’s Dr. off somewhere inside one of my truck group list and I normally Colabs those track group list so then I have to open up all my playlist groups define automation clip just a place it by the pattern or audio clip I am trying to automate it takes up time I want to take some time it takes up work it’s just annoying to happen to hunt them down and I would say FL studio is laid out better for quickly making a rap beat because you’re hot keys are more playlist pattern friendly And a couple other reasons I could list but this is already a long comment
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It's called "music theory" not "music law"
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@@ghostplayermusic ha ha! Music law sounds more badass!
THE MOST important point..if a hum,an is mad about how someone else makes music,they are insane..
Well, music is a science, and in science a theory is more proven and acknowledged than laws are. So there’s an argument to be made there. Not by me, but by someone far smarter than me.
Sounds like something that a person who doesn't know any music theory would say,.
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Omnisphere isn't overrated, just everybody uses it
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Omnisphere is indeed overrated. Half of the patches in it are unusable in anything other than experimental or film scoring. The hardware patches are ok, but I can find better ones from Arturia. And the others (which are very few) is somewhat good.
I tried Omnisphere and didn't see the need to get it.
I think people like omnisphere due to the size of the library not the quality of individual presets. It's easier and less expensive to manage a single plugin like omnisphere vs. having 100 kontakt libraries. However, if there is a bigger/better sample based library vsti I'd love to know.
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@@rebeccawhite5333 With the Kontakt libraries you could use the Komplete Kontrol software to browse all the presets in one place as long as they support NKS (which most of them do).
Everyone sleeps on the fact that Omnisphere is absurdly powerful for sound design. The amount of modulation, the number of different filters, and the customization of those filters (configurable in series or in parallel), the frequency modulation/ring/granular sections, and added to that the sound quality of each individual oscillator. Not only that, you can stack up to 8 different patches into one instance. Mix that in with the fact that you can use samples for synthesis as well, AND hardware integration if you have analog modern synths. For a professional music producer interested in sound design it's a ridiculously great value. That said, if you only care about presets then sure I can see how it's overrated.
Why is Omnisphere 620usd? And Spectrasonics has never had a sale and never will. Not a good company. Just hyped up by the hip hop community, Keyspace sounds horrible compared to the 3 Kontakt Piano's actually that sound real. More people should be calling out Spectrasonics for not having sales. Trillian, Keyscape and Omnisphere have never gone on sale even once yet. And they are becoming outdated now. I wouldn't use them personally and will never purchase them.
Omnisphere is definitely overrated in general especially for ppl who just like presets which was me for the longest time. I didn’t realize its full potential until i started to actually understand how to better tailor my sound… i should probably go spend more time in there tbh since im still growing in being able to design the sounds i want from scratch. Gotta get my money’s worth somehow
For me personally If I'm going to make a sound from scratch I'm going to use something else.
lol i feel that. Def am liking using the same waveforms I gravitate towards to start with in different synths and having fun hearing the different outcomes though
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Reverb on low end is like 90% of techno.
Omnisphere is actually pretty stellar. For one thing, there is a kind of integration that is possible with other Spectrasonics programs that is fairly amazing. The way this can connect with Keyscape and Trilian, plus the "Sonic Extensions"... is an amazing amount of power. It's not inexpensive stuff, but it is packed with versatility that's quite deep.
All that being said, it is not for everyone. Those who can afford Omnisphere and all the Spectrasonics products that integrate with it ... and also own other synths and VSTi's, likely understand exactly how/why Omnisphere will serve them best. Really, there is nothing else like it out there.
Music Theory is necessary. As one famous composer said you learn the rules so that you can understand how to break them, but first you need to learn them first.
I've owned Omni for years and I do use it quite often, my biggest issue with it is the UI though. I think it is super ugly and unintuitive. It is an absolute powerhouse once you know how to use it properly, but it kinda does things its own way for the sake of doing things its own way, and conceals a lot of its features behind strange tabs and stuff rather than make it all accessible,
Yeah it takes a while for the sound to load too
@@randomchannel323 Even if it's loading from an SSD?
Strictly omni sounds load pretty much instantly. Keyscape trilian patches take a moment to fully load on ssd but its playable before its fully loaded
@@mikeexits I've got a top end SSD on a 5950x with maxed out RAM and it still takes a second or two to flip through sounds. It's not terrible, but its not instant.
I actually like the interface. It’s a refreshing counter to interfaces that cram as much functionality as possible into a small space.
I gotta agree with the guy saying Splice isn't that good. The upsided are cool but the downsides made me opt out of it quick. Particularly, the fact that you can't retain access to the samples purchased once you unsubscribe and the issue of "overused" samples.
Uhhh Omnisphere is my daily driver as a game SFX designer.
I found more use in ANALOG LAB V + the loads of banks that you can find. I recommend it to anyone especially now that its on sale for $99. Its basically the best of arturias V collection which imo has more usable sounds than omni.
music theory isn't even a set of guidelines, it's literally just a way of analyzing music. like if you want to make pop music, you can use it to find out what the general conventions of pop music are, and you can follow them. but it's not saying that you have to or should do anything. if it's limiting you, then that's because you're letting it limit you
Diatonic functional harmony isn't a guideline? Cause thats what works.
10:17 the fact I've heard that from producers at the studio I worked at who got placements and was signed.
it comes with a limiter on the master, a shitty one, with shitty settings. please remove it
@@bfreitas456 dude you missed the point. I've had producers with placements and record deals tell me this at the studio I used to work at. Its supposed to be hot takes. Its like when people say 12 sounds better stock than 20. The limiter on 12 is set +5db
@@djsusan00 well my hot take is that fl studio limiter is shit. also ableton's
@@bfreitas456 I dont use it either. I keep my stock template empty
I love omnisphere. As a sound designer, it has one of the most practical, musical granular engines and I still haven't run out of uses for it.
Another comment: the best DAW is the DAW that works best for you. So it might be Ableton or it might be FL Studio or it might be something entirely different. People need to stop being tribal about everything and anything.
Watching your entire catalogue of videos since I found your channel man I love your content
7:05 this man is a true bringer of chaos
People definitely do cut too many lows out though. This makes the track sound smaller if you could use that adjective.
Cutting lows with more precision / consideration to maintain more weight to each element, with levelling and some frequency side chaining (fast attack / release) is where it's at.
....pitching Kicks pretty much changes it. Sometimes, randomly pitching kicks gets you something you like, but alot of times if you need to repitch the kick in the "mix" its trouble
yo weaver I love your videos, I never comment but I noticed there's some bugs crawling in and out of your microphone. one in particular at 11:08. just thought I'd let you know dude
Lol I noticed that too while editing. There's a few little ants that have been lurking.
@@Weaverbeats that’s no ant dude that’s why I said something, check for bed bugs. those little shits are messed up be careful
I got nats in my kitchen cuz plumbing was fucked up for a week n couldn't wash dishes . Now it's a PITA to get rid of em.
You can use side chain to help emphasize grooves it’s not only a mixing technique and in my opinion I like compression side chain more than LFO side chains created from an automation club manipulating a volume knob compression side chain is easier to get bounce out of faster
I'm a composer and omnisphere is an essential tool if you know how to use it and we prefer simple ui and not something that will hog the graphics, not something producer's absolutely need
naw for 4/4 type beats or anything danceable you want to have the kick tuned to the bass or keey of the track because thats the majority of the beat aand the most prominent element outside of the baseline itself but the kick also has low end in it so if its a constant kick and its out of tune the beat will always sound "off"
11:07
"I'm not gonna do a line of Trance."
lmfao idk why but that got me.
"Type beat" does seem more "for the algorithm"
"Melodic/guitar trap"/"drill" mostly
You got 22.500 subscribers now, so, you went way over your goal and it's still November. Congrats!
Thank you. If I get 25k I have to shave my head 😵
"The norm if understanding music theory" is something that was more prevalent until the 1990's. I think the "norm" nowadays is that most people making music at home probably don't know a whole lot about theory...
you're not wrong
In a lot of genres musicians just played by ear even before that point. Namely In jazz.
Also , I am glad to hear someone say that omnisphere is overrated ! Falcon 2 is WAY WAY better once you get your head around it , so much more professional on so many levels , Omnispher just has a really good sample libary to layer away with while you spend ages trying to get an ebnvelope shape the way you want it
I'm a Omni user for > 10 years... it has a great UI and amazing layering features. If you are into sound design, it is def. a great synth. I find it as easy to design sounds from scratch as with Serum, but you get 100 more features. The patches are very well usable for scoring, film, chillout, ambient out of the box. But you get GB of highest quality samples in there to build sounds from samples. Thats a pretty cool and handy thing. The FX in Omni is amazing too, compared to other Synth fx algos... well, so, if I want some standard stuff, I go for Serum or Spire or Sylenth1, but if I need something unique, original, with great depth that cuts thru, I design with Omni and it nevef disappoints. Also, I got a huge Update for free Omni 2 to Omni 2.5. Its a very fair business model. Omni is also good for stage use as you can overlay layers for a piano per range/section etc.
@@tryingtotryistrying makes sense yeah, same for Omni here, but I don't Trillian nor Keyscape; I'm using Modartt Pianoteq instead for keys.. and bass.. well is synth bass ;)
Yep!! Omnisphere is a powerhouse!!
this guy definitely works at spectrasonics
@@alourxx haha, I wish :)
2:50 I come up/find chords progressions and immediately am like yup Bryson Tiller used it there in one of his biggest hits or thats in this J Cole song*or if i borrow that chord progression from Bryson Tiller and then just so happened to put it in the style of Logic then I created a Bryson Tiller x Logic type beat
these are the greatest hot takes of all time
Don't worry about music theory. Just go by feel. It's better. Especially when spending all day on a note to sound good when working on your guitar solo.
99% of this video isn't about what the title of the video brought me here for, I'm displeased
I found your channel after watching a video on some granular fx plug-ins and it’s a blessing that someone is willing to step up and critique some of these companies that are selling snake oil
So here is my take on the Omnisphere thing, I can understand for the producers who are no genuinely into full out sound design and just really use presets and i think that is perfectly fine as well. But if you enjoy the aspects of sound design Omnisphere is a power house especially for people who do more Movie and TV etc etc, So while i get beat making caused the presets to be a bit overrated i for sure recommend you put a day or 2 a side every week or so and dabble with using your own samples even it can get crazy pretty fast man. So yeah i don't think it's truly overrated i think it's just the preset's that give it a bad name these days even though they sound great just very over used in modern beat making. as far as the Nexus 2 comparison LOL yeah nah not even close.
Lol that first comment blew my mind, you can clearly hear, AND see a difference in SOFT clipping vs hard limiting and compression. Huge difference there, I would recommend just experimenting.
I dont think they were talking about it in the artistic aspect of it but in the fact that it's easier to tame peaks with a clipper than with a compressor/limiter and thats why people go for clippers
I only dislike Omnisphere because I can't afford it. lmao
The best DAW is the one which you spend most of your time on.
7:47 compressors simply don't sound all the same. that being said you only need a digital one and two or three emulations (those will vary in sound A LOT)
2:06 u said word for word what I was gonna say
And you can’t complain about type beat producers with “no creativity”, but then complain about type beats sounding different
"not having reverb doesnt break your mix" - thats a hot take if i ever heard one.
Phase shift on the master mix buss wont cause any issues because it shifts the phase equally for each component of the audio. So it can't cause any phase cancellation.
Phase issues arise when phase shifts happen on a per-track basis, this can cause cancelling between the tracks.
Like you might have a bass and kick drum that are sitting together really tight. And applying EQ(or whatever) to one track may create some phase cancellation that wasnt there before. Which can fuck up your low end. (thats just the most obvious example)
Actually a good point 👉 👈
true but you also have to consider that phase shift causes the waveform to change, which means that non linear processing like saturation/clipping will sound different afterwards
Linear phase causes preringing though, so you might want to A/B between low latency and linear phase and see if you can tell the difference.
Omnisphere is impressive in many ways but I stopped using it since the presets often take up to much space in the mix and it often gave me a headache when trying to get it sound good together with everything else. On its own it sounds awesome. Yeah go on and blame my mixing skills. I'm too old to care.😅
Regarding clipping "and understanding compression"
Is the song good? If so, no one gives a ƒµçk
Side note, if you're attempting some specific kind of sound via some specific workflow then yes there can be a right and wrong way to do it. I'm just saying if we're talking about clipping vs a limiter - and you like one or the other - there is no wrong or right
When people think, “Good sounding Low end reverb” they’re really just hearing highlassed, high-end reverberation of the higher frequencies in a bass sound, like the click of a kick drum or buzzyness of a synth bass.
Other than that or some experimental sh!t, there’s no such thing as good sounding low-end reverb in a mix.
I tighten my lows and they sound neat. Not a fan of yuge droning bass that overpowers the synths.. that's like dowsing a bad steak from golden corral in a1 lol
When I first tried Omnisphere I got three tracks from the first ten presets. Every time I go back it's the same. Such inspiration! But if you are doing genre based music I guess if the software doesn't match your chosen genre then it's of limited use. You'd be better going for something called [my genre]Pro.
I was taught that the performance should be free, the editing is just the right place at the right time, and mastering should be what you want the experience to be at the end.
was looking into omnishpere cus idk anything about it tbh and ended up here and then all of a sudden my tweet comes up in the video lmfaoo
lmaooo
Omnisphere is black and white. Either it has these incredible sounds that sound as good as hardware, but there are so many 'filler' presets which are just useless. I've spent days going through thousands of presets and favouriting only 75, with only 30 with a 5 star rating. Also, some packs are just terrible, total rip off. But I'd say Keyscape is pretty much on par as one of the best piano and Rhodes plugins on the market. The only issue is very high CPU usage with some patches. One great bass patch will have barely any CPU, then I found this amazing soaring lead patch, but It's so multilayered (Clearly a lot of effort was put in), if I play 4 notes it uses 30% of my i9 MBP in Ableton. Even one note will end a session. Thank God that Ableton 11 can multithread Omnisphere, it can't do a lot of other big name plugins, so my Mac Studio is great. Finally, the main issue with Omnisphere is the price. At least upgrades are free and really good. If you get it plus Keyscape and some great sound packs you're looking at $800.
Yep Keyscape is pretty awesome. And contrary to what WeaverBeats said, I find myself liking a lot of Omnisphere’s presets as I thumb through them. Problem is, I can’t think of how I’d use them, so I rarely ever reach for Omnisphere when I’m producing. I definitely can’t see a use for it making beats except for maybe pads but I have other “lighter” synths that are as good or better.
@@Nightowl427272 I actually use a few presets in a few tracks and heard one of them used in a track on a MixMag session mix just last week. It's a great sound. Only uses 15% of CPU per one note on an i9 2019 MBP. So I what I do is I find presets I like and save them in my Ableton folder as Ableton groups, as I think the Omnisphere preset manager is total garbage and simply broken in some areas. Quicker access to the sounds might make you use them more.
@@RJ1J - You’re right, the preset manager just isn’t friendly when it comes to organizing and accessing favorite sounds.
Now that I think of it, that’s probably my biggest beef with Omni, I simply don’t want to open it up, it feels like a chore. U-he’s preset manager is my favorite - traditional tags/folders…etc but it’s color-categories of favorites is superb,
I love Eric Persing, the man has had such an influence on music during his decades-long career but Omnisphere definitely needs an overhaul.
@@tryingtotryistrying “take off all the fx minus EQ.”
Absolutely, that’s a good rule to follow with most all software instruments actually…saves CPU resources, and definitely cleans up the sound…especially reverbs.
Just found you channel... love it
One of my favorite channels ❤ thanks for the hot takes bro
If you’re kick is “proper,” and a relatively “normal” pitch, the transient should be short enough that tuning is bordering irrelevant. There are instances, but in the majority of musical scenarios, it isn’t going to matter all that much. If you’re in the same key relative interval, you can move on. You should be more concerned with the decay time of your kick’s sub-frequencies. If the transient is too short to push your side chains, you can always copy a pattern and create a dummy chain to control sidechain event timings. Edit to say, ProQ protected my family from an oncoming attack of locust and saved the Fall harvest.
Nexus 5 is pretty effing good
Omnisphere is really lame until you start making your own patches with it. It has great waveforms and can easily rival Serum with the sheer amount of availability. It has a ton of versatility with the number of FX plugins, features, modulation, and so on. Really if you can't make something cool with Omnisphere it's a skill issue and not a limitation of the plugin.
on the whole low cutting thing, the power, weight and body of the sound lies in the lows. even if you can barely hear the impact the low cut is having, it's a cumulative reduction of weight. some genres want a clean sound, but don't high pass your distorted electric guitars, for instance. my rule of thumb, is high pass when things are muddy, and only until the muddiness is gone
Gain sidechain is only viable for simple kick patterns like four on the floor. If you're making trap or something it's not gonna work well for you. Much better to use automation if you have something more complex.
I like this channel.💙
This is my favorite producer channel
Plus the type beat title is great for marketing the UA-cam algorithm
Multi pass by kilohearts is a great plug-in for putting reverb on basses. Let’s younfilter out low frequency so you can texturize the high end
He was talking about low bass, not high bass.
I hate it personally, but the pads are all over tv and theres a lot of tv presets. There's a show that rhymes with PAW AND BORDER whose guy unabashedly uses omni presets constantly. It sounds decent. The doink doink is an m-1 or d-50 preset with the key tapped twice (I forget which I used to have both of them and I get them confused) though. Contra whatever BS he claims this week.
Your reactions to the hot takes are so on point. This channel will definitely blow up at some point for sure. It's really a one of kind type of thing now, I don't see anyone else making audio production funny so patience my friend. You'll for sure hit it big soon. Massive haters just hating until the masses find this. haha.
Every beat, instrumental or song is different and requires different levels of mastering. I made one beat which sounded very quiet when exported and the next beat was about 3 x louder.
You gotta do it all differently if you have different synths bc some synths react strange to certain types of compression. Kalimbas and romplers are touchy w multiband compression. Those are best w standard sidechaining
Remember Camel Audio Alchemy? Omnisphere 2 in a nutshell.
Music is a language, and there are many ways to say the same thing. So learning music theory isn't black and white, there is no set way to create.
l use Dune 3, Zenology 2, and Seurm, along with XO, Addictive Drums, Ample Guitar, Modo Bass, and Addictive Keys...those are my main Instruments...I reight Pop Tech/ Funck genra....Im not impressed with Omni...at all.."Some of the Presets might be Nice" but alot of them dont sound new enough.....I think....having a Collective Group of instruments you use together are better for writing instead of being so such an 'Omnisphere Zombie...LOL"
If you pitch drums to match melodic instruments, you will have to do even more to keep them distinct from each other.
*lights match
Dumps it on gasoline
Walks away.
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i cant man... i cant... you're too sober
Yeah I have no idea what genre's my music fall into. I just create what sounds great. Of all the plugins I've tried, VPS Avenger has the best presets hands down. Probably because you can create an entire mix with 1 plugin. People who don't use clippers probably only do it missionary style.
The one thing that all the people who say Omnisphere is shite have in common is, they don’t own it.
Overrated is not the same thing as saying it's "shite"
@@Weaverbeats For sure. I wasn’t talking about your title, but talking about people who say that in the comments.
What synths would you rate as better than Omnisphere with more above average sounds?
What romplers are better than omnisphere (for synths) ?
Omnisphere is a bit overrated, that’s only because mainly most are not familiar with Omnisphere and it requires a decent learning curve
Omnisphere is way too overpriced. I completely agree, the "okay" sounds are TOO many
I use Surge-XT. It's amazing, versatile, and free. A complete all in one package.
Regarding the first comment clippers and limiter aren’t the same thing limiters have a ratio of 20-50(which is why when you limit something sometimes the output will temp go over the thresh you set). Clippers have a ratio of INFINITY:1(which mean the output will never go over the thresh you set). Also compression(assuming your ratio is 10 or less) can’t reduce atk they ONLY shape it by that I mean if you have a TP of 0 and comp with the fastest atk/rel your TP will still be 0 assuming you level match no matter what thresh you set.
ONLY clippers and limiters can actually reduce your TP so the first comment is just straight up wrong. The reason why pretty much all master Eng use clipper is to reduce unneeded transient material while still maintaining the same rms limiters can do the same also but they WILL ALWAYS let some transient material through due to the small ratio amount.
What does this video have to do with omnisphere?
What is gain sidechain?
It's possible people are going at the "hot takes" from different perspectives. Some are giving opinions and some are giving you rediculous things that are hot garbage takes just to be funny.
People who like to get striaght to making music vs those who like to create their sounds or tailor, will have different opinions about Omnisphere and other vst/pluggins that are geared more to sound creation/design. It depends on the person. I have Omnisphere but I rarely use it..I actually wish i got Electra2 instead.
Scrolling through Retro Land section, 80% of the sound are super good. That is before post processing even. What's better than Omnisphere then?
I meant the entirety of it not one section. I prefer the arturia v collection personally.
@@Weaverbeats I see what you mean, you are right. I guess Sound Extensions and Keyscape Creative can add a lot of good presets too. There are also 3rd party libraries but I didn't try them yet.
Arturia collection is a must have as well, but I feel their sound require more Post Processing than Omnisphere. It's maybe the genre that makes the difference.
Who tf mixes a song for months and months???????
This is an interesting clip , past few days Ive been trying to tune a kick drum perfectly just because of experimentation and I realised part of what makes a kick sound like a kick are quick and or slower pitch changes . I actually managed to make that perfectly-ish tuned kick and it ended up being the most lifeless kick that camouflaged itself in the mix the first chance it got .
tell me that you're not producing edm without saying that you're not producing edm
Drop us one of the 20 beats to remix or record on lil community festivities
The more great things there are, the less people appreciate what you can use. 99% of you worry more about your tools than what your making. Omnisphere kicks ass. So does A LOT of other stuff these days. Take a deep breath. Quit complaining. Enjoy.
Not gon lie the title isn’t that wrong I’m really glad I got it tho🙏
Spectrasonics has never had a sale... ever! that says a lot about a company. All their software is outdated now. There are a lot of piano's I would rather have than Keyscape.
a lot of the samples in Omnisphere are from Spectrasonics sample cds from the 90s...not sure if that's a good or a bad thing but I think that proves your point. 😂
@@trevor_mounts_music LOL omg figures. Meanwhile I have a library made in George Lucas skywalker studios by real horn players when it was on sale 50 percent off for less than 300$ , actual professional samples. Spectrasonics is crap
Sampletank 4 is dope
midis don't matter if you can just convert the loop to midi!
It’s not overrated it’s the absolute 🐐 people who whine about it just use the same tired bell preset they found on “ 10 famous omni presets” videos instead of diving into the synthesise where the real magic is.
You can sythesize with any synth plugin though, what makes it special? I don't think it's shit I just think it isn't special.
@@Weaverbeats it can do every type of synthesis at 4 layers per patch, it’s got 8 LFO’s 34 filter types per part and the best fx on any synth ever made. The only thing that is even in the same ballpark is Pigments 3 and even then omni 2.8 makes that look like a child’s toy.
@@Weaverbeats I agree with your take for upcoming producers, if you don't know how to fully take advantage of omnisphere and want to use it only for presets then it's definitely not the right plugin for you. However, if you love sound design, care about the quality of the oscillators (which in my opinion Omnisphere's sound amazing and has such a huge variety of options), and love different kinds of syntheses (Ring modulation, FM, Granular, and complex mod matrices) then I'd argue Omnisphere offers tremendous value. It can sound as good as analog synths, with so much more flexibility. That being said if you are currently not earning a living through music, it may be wiser to invest that money elsewhere for the time being. To me though, Omnisphere is my #1 production tool.
@@trackaccino5724 completely agree. It’s the signal flow that gives that analog feel. If I was a beginner just playing around and learning I’d get Vital and then Serum. But long term there literally is no better VST instrument if you are taking this shot seriously.
ALL synths come with shitty presents that are non genre specific. Gotta pay for those.
The only people who don't think Omi is the best are the present kittens who can't actually use synths and don't know how to do sound design.
I think you meant *PRESET* kittens. You can sound design in any synth, but whatever makes you feel good about spending 500 dollars. 😭 I've literally been sound designing for over 10 years but go off queen 👸 👏
@@Weaverbeats I def meant preset lol. also I don't buy any software, so it's no need for me justify any purchases. No other synth can do what omni can in a single patch. 4 channels per patch and you can layer like 10 patches together in the multi browser and use 40 waveforms or samples at once, as a single sound. The granular synthesis is also the best I've used and I've been sound designing for over 15 years. You can also control omni with a hardware synth without any scripting. You can load keyscape in omni too, and then process the samples using all the omnisphere effects and modlutaions. You can't even come close to what omni can do in any other synth. Is it necessary? No. Is it overkill? Absolutely. It's still the best there is, tho.
Unpitched kick drums sound cheap. IDK why anyone would want to have the most important part of their drums be untuned. If you make your own kick drums you'll know immediately that pitching your kicks is super important for timbre, sound design, and cohesion in your mix. It's literally just another kind of skill issue, people don't know how important it is cause they just use presets.
I mean yeah I FL and Ableton do the exact same thing but both dolls have their advantages when it comes to a workflow of a certain genre I would say Ableton is better for Dub Step base house in any music that you will be making a lot of automation clips with due to the fact that when you create the automation clips it’s already in the playlist underneath the Sound of the pattern you’re trying to manipulate like for example FL studio is extremely annoying creating automation clips like literally I was getting kind of annoyed using it while making a base house track I’m doing because when you create a lot of automation clips it really helps a lot to stay organized but whenever I create my automation clips and I go to look for the automation clips in the playlist it’s Dr. off somewhere inside one of my truck group list and I normally Colabs those track group list so then I have to open up all my playlist groups define automation clip just a place it by the pattern or audio clip I am trying to automate it takes up time I want to take some time it takes up work it’s just annoying to happen to hunt them down and I would say FL studio is laid out better for quickly making a rap beat because you’re hot keys are more playlist pattern friendly And a couple other reasons I could list but this is already a long comment
OOOOH MY TAKE IS IN THIS ONE!!1
yours was one of the better ones imo
Beginners high pass synths, people who aren’t beginners use subtractive eq and shelving
that's true you can conserve more headroom by shelving as opposed to filtering. ngl i still do it sometimes cause I can be lazy.