I think what’s really powerful about Bison isn’t the damage but the threat that damage represents. Not every character has access to consistently around 6k damage off a knockdown scenario or 8k with full resources. The opponent is gonna play way more defensive against Bison if they have a bomb on. They’re less likely to risk the OD dp if they’re gonna die for guessing wrong.
@@thesaltmerchant4564threat of big damage is important because threat is what causes fear & forces mistakes. If somebody just commits to taking the throw vs bison then that’s gonna let him get a ton more throws for free than any other character, where the player might try to challenge normally
Marisa, Dhalsim, M. Bison, Ryu (honorable mention since he doesn’t go above the 8k barrier) all can break the barrier since all but Ryu can go into the 8ks to my knowledge.
Wait, I’m mad confused about the micro walk combo. If you’re at max drive meter, how is the microwalk building bar to prevent burn out and give you the last OD move?
Small buffer after letting go of charge to input the button to do the special let's you do a little walk forward. Think of it as the opposite of Guile's perfect booms, instead of hitting forward and punch at the same time you want to hit punch as late as possible after hitting forward.
I did all the combo's of every character but I cant get M Bison advanced combo 5 to work. I can't combo past his EX head stomp.. the f-HP always whiffs.. Combo is at 1:00
I think what's really powerful about bison isn't the damage but the threat that damage represents. Not every character has access to consistently around 6k damage off a knockdown scenario or 8k with full resources. The opponent is gonna play way more defensive against bison if they have a bomb on. They're less likely to risk the OD dp if they're gonna die for guessing wrong
Been learning some combos with bison and his routes feel weird to me like the gravity is real wonky. Been experimenting what i can get off of od kick and to me it seems like there isnt much you can use to extend the combo due to the recovery of the move. Is it just me or am i missing something?
is there a tutorial anywhere explaining exactly how to micro walk? i get what it is, but i dont understand how youre suppose to microwalk in the middle of a charge move. i can even understand the concept of like pausing between left and right slightly but it never comes out for me. theres gotta be an in depth on this somewhere right?
The first combo starts with a punish so they set so every first hit is a punish rather than having the character whiff something. But the second combo isn't a punish since you can't get a punish with a meaty outside of training mode so they change it to be a normal hit.
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The max combos are cool and all but there’s huge misconception with him not doing dmg without bomb. the fact he’s doing 6k for 1 EX MOVE so it’s less than 2 bars by the time the combos finished on a Dp punish so he’s really just waiting for you to make that one fatal mistake keeps him in the game the whole match no matter how down he is just playing solid.
Wait... People thought akuma was the hardest hitting dlc character? Aki literally has a 7069 damage combo, which involves bursting a poison at the end. If you don't pop it, you trade 8 damage for a other 420, so she has a 7.350 damage combo with poison. I know aki is unpopular but come on...
@@BrainGeniusEditor I appreciate your help. One more thing. Did I also see that he saved his status mid combo? Does that make it to where you only have to continue from the save?
@@tavinwallack24 Yep, you can do it by pausing and selecting "save state" or by setting a save (and load) function in the "shortcuts" menu. Useful for comparing damage across different routes from the same situation, or just practicing the back half of a long combo without repeating the beginning every time, as you see here.
I think the trend of new releases having one move with super overtuned damage and combo potential is kinda lame. akuma with ex flame and bison with ex crusher. But oh well. Maybe when this game gets balrog I'll download it again
it takes so long to do that combo I could just put the controller down and get a drink cause im not playing! I don't dig that kinda game play personally
Currently i’m 500~ points away from being master rank, and i have yet to see a Bison player that even attempts anything with him that’s not backpedal -> psycho crusher or his whateveritscalled flip kicks to jab jab and repeat.
@paubalid7897 When I first saw it, I thought it's on purpose. Since the setup is so inconvenient to do. It's the only way he can cash out on damage I've noticed. Mine trigger + lvl3 CA= Nuke
None of the crazy bomb combo damage stuff bugs me, I just wish the scissor kicks were a little less free. I can always take the throw if I get stuck with a bomb and have Bison running after me... but I'm not confident I can shut down those scissor kicks.
My problem with Bison is that he’s giving even Akuma a run for his money on mobility. Someone like him doing absurd damage should not be able to get in your face as quickly as he does, it’s insane.
feel like they didn't hit their targets for S1 characters since they all released weak to balanced, so they're going to MOBA route of releasing a character stronger than average and working down to balanced
Marisa players laughing at damage numbers, and crying at Bison's normals. Anybody who goes for a big gamble when a set-up character has their set-up active and full resources, though, should totally eat shit and lose the game immediately.
@@alfredososa3059every characters got a -5 on block invincible to strike and throw reversal so that’s not really true. A character don’t have to have everything to be top 5 either. Still too early to tell where he will be in the tiers when he’s fully figured out imo
The way I see it, once you have the bomb on, it’s always his turn. The bomb fills in any gap he has, and any hit can be converted into landing another bomb, repeating the cycle over and over again. You should not be able to detonate and land another bomb in the same combo.
If it's not bison it'll be cammy or Luke or gief or etc. Bison is not that busted you're just losing to something new. As you'll learn things will stabalize
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I think what’s really powerful about Bison isn’t the damage but the threat that damage represents. Not every character has access to consistently around 6k damage off a knockdown scenario or 8k with full resources. The opponent is gonna play way more defensive against Bison if they have a bomb on. They’re less likely to risk the OD dp if they’re gonna die for guessing wrong.
How to play the bison matchup:
TAKE THE FUCKING THROW
So it's not his damage but his damage? Mmmm I see now
@@thesaltmerchant4564threat of big damage is important because threat is what causes fear & forces mistakes. If somebody just commits to taking the throw vs bison then that’s gonna let him get a ton more throws for free than any other character, where the player might try to challenge normally
@@thesaltmerchant4564the fear of that damage, specifically
@@the0therethan fear is the mind-killer, I choose to eat crayons © Kimberly
I have hit that combo 5 times now and 3 people raged quit before letting me finish. SMH 🤦🏻♂️
Word.
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I swear this mf is saying “worm” am I bugging?
Word.
@@iamsin6808yea but WORD🗿 is funnier
word. :3
Combos:
- 6:17
- 8:36
- 13:50
- 14:40
Time to practice!
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Brian F loves studying combos more than playing Bison.
6.7k damage for 4 drive bars and 2 super bars (and a bomb of course) with bison btw, more than the average max damage
Thanks Sajam! I enjoyed this edition of twitter combo trials.
Dan used to be the training dummy, now it's Akuma
Funny enough Akuma wasn’t even a contender for the heaviest hitter lol. There were multiple other characters that could break the 7k damage
Akuma has generally high damage but not amazing max damage
Marisa, Dhalsim, M. Bison, Ryu (honorable mention since he doesn’t go above the 8k barrier) all can break the barrier since all but Ryu can go into the 8ks to my knowledge.
@@zkosmith1662 I'm pretty sure ryu barely hits 7k
@@jerry3115 I know, that’s why it was an honorable mention, but everyone else does break the barrier
Ryu can't even hit 7100 wtf is this person smoking 😭😭🙏🙏🤣🤣
Jamie hit like a truck now 7294 damage
That speck of dirt above brian's head is driving me nuts tried to wipe it off 3 times. 😵
Akuma wasn't even the highest damage. Jamie at 4 drinks and with CA did 7148 damage.
We know about Marisa right?
luke did 7600
Ah, didn't know jamie was a dlc character.
But even within the dlc. Aki has 7.4k combo routes
I hate the down medium punch si bad. That shit so powerful just because of the little extra range from the Psycho Condom.
Wait, I’m mad confused about the micro walk combo. If you’re at max drive meter, how is the microwalk building bar to prevent burn out and give you the last OD move?
you're microwalking after the EX stomp, so you're not at max meter anymore.
I dont have SF6 so sorry if this is SF6 101, but how do you micro walk forward while holding charge for the psycho crusher?
Small buffer after letting go of charge to input the button to do the special let's you do a little walk forward. Think of it as the opposite of Guile's perfect booms, instead of hitting forward and punch at the same time you want to hit punch as late as possible after hitting forward.
I did all the combo's of every character but I cant get M Bison advanced combo 5 to work.
I can't combo past his EX head stomp.. the f-HP always whiffs.. Combo is at 1:00
I can't wait for terry to be released in like three months and kill everyone in one touch with max mode
I want Terry to have his 1-frame grab
Ya know... cuz it'd be authentic
You can Super 1 after the devil's reverse mine detonation from grounded, FYI
So he’s Slayer?
Edit: he’s not :(
Shucks..
He was kind of dollar store slayer in sfv. Slow walk, teleport dash, plus frames and counterhit dispenser.
The truest heartbeat stopper, and there wasn't even a bedtime story :(
@@jatinmarcob2128 life is a journey not a destination, enjoy the ride it’s ups and downs
@@jatinmarcob2128 haaaaardly the stuff of bedtime story happy ending in just a sad short detour, life is a jooourny not a destinaaaation.🎶
I think what's really powerful about bison isn't the damage but the threat that damage represents. Not every character has access to consistently around 6k damage off a knockdown scenario or 8k with full resources. The opponent is gonna play way more defensive against bison if they have a bomb on. They're less likely to risk the OD dp if they're gonna die for guessing wrong
I cant get the freaking overhead extension to land after stomp lol
Same, from this video seems like you have to press it extremely quickly after the ex stomp input
@@cRaNk3dTVjump higher. Sounds stupid, but i initially i instantly ex stomped, but it works better if you let him fly first.
what are they talking about microwalk on the last combo? also no devils reverse, very confused
*Chuckles in Marisa.*
Been learning some combos with bison and his routes feel weird to me like the gravity is real wonky. Been experimenting what i can get off of od kick and to me it seems like there isnt much you can use to extend the combo due to the recovery of the move. Is it just me or am i missing something?
If the opponent is mined, ex head stomp into the punch followup into CA, easy 7100 damage. The ex stomp doesn't scale.
Doing OD devils reverse punch with a bomb on them into CA is already 7100
The CA does 100% damage and is completely unscaled
is there a tutorial anywhere explaining exactly how to micro walk? i get what it is, but i dont understand how youre suppose to microwalk in the middle of a charge move. i can even understand the concept of like pausing between left and right slightly but it never comes out for me. theres gotta be an in depth on this somewhere right?
If you do it fast enough (walking for 1-2 frames) you keep your charge
I don’t quite get the pause and switch to normal hit in the menu, can someone explain please
The first combo starts with a punish so they set so every first hit is a punish rather than having the character whiff something. But the second combo isn't a punish since you can't get a punish with a meaty outside of training mode so they change it to be a normal hit.
Getting back into sf again Bison is so much fun
Man... I'm torn on dropping my Rashid and going full time on Bison LOL! great video!!!
how do you micro walk into OD crusher ? wouldnt you lose charge if you micro walked?
You have a few frames after you let go of back to input the button and do the special. Enough for you to walk forward for a frame or two.
I've been wondering this but can Bison juggle the sky high mine pops with Devil's Reverse?
He's pressure is so free.
It seems like SF6 is pretty good for skill expression. Reminds me a lot of SF4 combos.
Ohhhh try this DLC... It gives more options of atack and damage... Ease way to sell
Going for another psycho crusher after EX psycho crusher detonation is definitely more practical than stomp EX. I'll be using that for sure!
This game's made me fall in love with huge bars of puke yellow colouring
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Commit to the fun one
Broski has a video just like that
Brian and maxdood made exactly what you described already, should be easy to search for 👌
Using motion controls for maximum fun and strength
Leverless/Hitbox: Objectively best
Pad: Second best
Stick: Only for ppl who grew up in arcades, its the worst
And everyone was freaking about about Akuma…
How long has bison been out?
5 days
it is me or the hit on the chest with the unique animation sounds like smash bros hit sound?
I can do 6480 with Akuma using four bars😂
The max combos are cool and all but there’s huge misconception with him not doing dmg without bomb. the fact he’s doing 6k for 1 EX MOVE so it’s less than 2 bars by the time the combos finished on a Dp punish so he’s really just waiting for you to make that one fatal mistake keeps him in the game the whole match no matter how down he is just playing solid.
Wait... People thought akuma was the hardest hitting dlc character? Aki literally has a 7069 damage combo, which involves bursting a poison at the end. If you don't pop it, you trade 8 damage for a other 420, so she has a 7.350 damage combo with poison.
I know aki is unpopular but come on...
Terry better be AT LEAST this strong or I'll never forgive them.
2:15 damn... akuma's ankles are gross.
He looks nasty overall
Say no to the Hado
😋😋
Bro is dehydrated for sure
Wait, you're pausing the game to change the blocking mid combo? Is that normal
If you want to practice a combo off of a Punish Counter, but with a reset in it, you need to stop and turn the punish counter setting to off.
@@BrainGeniusEditor I appreciate your help. One more thing. Did I also see that he saved his status mid combo? Does that make it to where you only have to continue from the save?
@@tavinwallack24 Yep, you can do it by pausing and selecting "save state" or by setting a save (and load) function in the "shortcuts" menu. Useful for comparing damage across different routes from the same situation, or just practicing the back half of a long combo without repeating the beginning every time, as you see here.
Gen 2 dlc character prowless
"Scissor kick is minus"
Yeah let me just go ahead and do that jab punish from full screen Twitter...
take the throw ... for god's sake haha
That Bison combo didn’t even use CA
I think the trend of new releases having one move with super overtuned damage and combo potential is kinda lame. akuma with ex flame and bison with ex crusher. But oh well. Maybe when this game gets balrog I'll download it again
Can't wait for elena to somehow do more damage
I'm ngl they either need to nerf bison or buff Marissa, that cash out makes Marissa look like a worse version of this character
it takes so long to do that combo I could just put the controller down and get a drink cause im not playing! I don't dig that kinda game play personally
is it just me or does bison look a lot scarier than akuma did
I’m just so confused, why nerf the hell out of Luke’s damage, when he could almost get to 7k but get akuma and bison even more damage 🥹
Why do you think? “Nerf character people have, introduce stronger character that people have to pay money for”.
because you cant have some of the best normals, health, fireball game AND hit hard.
@@geasslelouchsounds like a mortal kombat “zoner” lol
Word?
Surprisingly bison doesn't even have the most damaging combo. Guile boom loops with full super can almost ToD. Look up sf6 guile 98%
That combo doesn't exist anymore
thats not the highest 0:41
Currently i’m 500~ points away from being master rank, and i have yet to see a Bison player that even attempts anything with him that’s not backpedal -> psycho crusher or his whateveritscalled flip kicks to jab jab and repeat.
How to turn Akuma...
...into Akunot.
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Bison can do 8050 damage actually
yeah that's the last segment of the video lmao
@@ralfsdzirkalis6463 I commented too early lol
Bison is a problem he can get the mine planted pretty easily.
What does optimal means in fighting game
Does it just simply means the best
it means the best in that specific situation.
Word 😒
Akuma was robbed
detonate a mine with ex devil's reverse then straight go CA. don't need to do these complicated combos
They will just OS your reverse by not pressing a button. Or if they see a coming they will just dp you out the sky.
@@TooSweaty7 were just talking about raw damage here. just try that as there seem to be a bug with devil's reverse having no scaling
@paubalid7897 When I first saw it, I thought it's on purpose. Since the setup is so inconvenient to do. It's the only way he can cash out on damage I've noticed. Mine trigger + lvl3 CA= Nuke
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None of the crazy bomb combo damage stuff bugs me, I just wish the scissor kicks were a little less free. I can always take the throw if I get stuck with a bomb and have Bison running after me... but I'm not confident I can shut down those scissor kicks.
My problem with Bison is that he’s giving even Akuma a run for his money on mobility. Someone like him doing absurd damage should not be able to get in your face as quickly as he does, it’s insane.
feel like they didn't hit their targets for S1 characters since they all released weak to balanced, so they're going to MOBA route of releasing a character stronger than average and working down to balanced
Yep and make more $ in process cause people will be enticed to grab an op character
Marisa players laughing at damage numbers, and crying at Bison's normals. Anybody who goes for a big gamble when a set-up character has their set-up active and full resources, though, should totally eat shit and lose the game immediately.
Honestly bison really ruined the game for me I’m done until terry
Might be the cheapest character in SF6 AND he's easily top 5...
Bison does not have the defensive options to be top 5
Not too bad with drive reversal being a thing now@@alfredososa3059
@@alfredososa3059every characters got a -5 on block invincible to strike and throw reversal so that’s not really true. A character don’t have to have everything to be top 5 either. Still too early to tell where he will be in the tiers when he’s fully figured out imo
W Bison.
The way I see it, once you have the bomb on, it’s always his turn. The bomb fills in any gap he has, and any hit can be converted into landing another bomb, repeating the cycle over and over again. You should not be able to detonate and land another bomb in the same combo.
What a dumb character
Bro, bison is doing too much, just got back to sf6 excited to play akuma, and im considering dropping the game again lmao
Just drop the game bro. You obviously don't want to play it
@@Qayoh_Renzel literally said that I do, I'm having a lot of fun with akuma, but bisons damage and cheap stuff are kind of too much to handle
If it's not bison it'll be cammy or Luke or gief or etc.
Bison is not that busted you're just losing to something new. As you'll learn things will stabalize
@@Brian_F hopefully bro🙏🙏
@@JustSaiyan69you play akuma just jump spam and raging demon grab
Those aren’t practical combos
Wtf is this character
*Word.* chain
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