On their website I don't see anything about a Pure 900. No mention of T51R mod. Says "uses stock housing" for all versions. Where is this Pure housing, new manifold option, etc.....?
Seeing some comments about how Pures seals are bad, I believe it’s a misconception that the seals have gone bad for Pures. I’ve had my Pure for over 40K miles with 0 issues. I have had some smoking at one point in the past on decel once in a blue moon with a cloud coming out my exhaust, I added the radium dual-port catchcan and the mishimoto one-way check valve in between the line that connects to the inlet and since then I’ve had no issues considering smoke, aside from the usual blow by our cars give. I think people misconcept that it’s the seals, when in reality it’s the PCV system in our cars. Also to add but I always check my set-up to make sure there are no boost leaks that can cause me over-spinning the turbo and blowing a seal itself. Again with proper maintenance, data logging, and ensuring you got a good tune. I’m sure you should have no issues.
Kern, can you please do a transmission video. Over here in the UK some 140i owners or fxx b58 owners use the 335d gearbox as a poor man upgrade to a built transmission.
Does Pure have any turbos for the Gen 1 b58? They couldn't give me an eta on the new cast units. Maybe Ill just get the new DAW turbo that you got. Looking forward to those E dyno numbers.. 👀
My vehicle was the rear car with the 5.1 draggy and probably could get it into 4.8-4.9. Also worked with the shop MTech performance here in south Florida and tuned by Kagan.
Which turbo would you recommend on 93 only? Not looking for huge number. Under 550rwhp. Would the 650 be good for that? I just dont have time to mix ethanol or drive the car enough lol
@@Nytro423 not for a lot of people new to the platform.... I'm mostly familiar with v8s and coyotes. They're not that complex like this car. They ca. Run E out of the box without a bunch of other supporting mods.
@@98ws6m6cvert oh, sorry. If you’re 100% sure you don’t want any more than 550, then pure 650 is a good option. But I know a lot of people only wanting 600 and then they got power hungry and ended up getting a pure 850. So I would say if ur not completely sure, just spend the extra buck and get the pure 800 or pure 850 to save money in the future
Kern! Could you pleaaasee do vids comparing b58 performance upgrade parts? For example, comparing the 3 most popular Intake manifolds and which is better in your opinion. Keep up the great content man
I'm pretty torn. I'm fully stock minus DP and tune and leaning towards the Remnant Performance RP65 since it comes with basically everything including an intake and I think turbo inlet pipe. But now there's a DAW Ultraflow 6466 and Pure900 (both I want a T51r mod on lol)
the top mount kits are really pricey and these ones are a good performance for value in my opinion, i would like a t51r mod on one of the budget turbos would be sweet
I'm gonna be a test dummy for the 650. '22 m240x Currently have a dp, custom tune, intake and charge pipe, exhaust and xhp but want to stay on pump gas. I'm adding meth injection and originally the 800 but went with the 650 as I'm not doing a built engine or transmission.
How has your experience been with P850? I want to set it and forget it, I’m not planning on doing weird fuel mixes and shit. Just a HPFP, down pipe, and a tune. Is it reliable? Any problems?
I’m running a TU pump on only 93 octane. Is there any point running something like a DAW Ultraflow or would I already be fuel limited on a flowmax 2.5+?
You’d be fuel limited. You would still get a few extra PSI up top vs stock turbo but you’re looking at probably 50hp at most. I’d say the two options are either go for Dorch ds25 on top of the turbo, which is 4k total (not including install if you want a shop to do it). Or put that money towards new car fund.
on e30-e40 an upgraded turbo you can see 550 whp on tu but you are pushing the pump... stage 2 pump is good for 600whp, best optionfor fueling is tu, port injection and lpfp thats the cheapest option for fueling to utilize a bigger turbo
I'd go doc race top mount with next gen precision 6466. Will support around 900whp with proper supporting mods of course. Just wait little longer because doc race is releasing tubular exhaust manifold with the kit soon. Just my opinion, probably little buyest because I have the doc race 6466 kit
Hey I'ma buy a 6967 from DAW and all the products say no OEM tune and I need to install it and drive it. Would turbo get damaged if I baby it keep it under 2k rpm till I get to tuner?
@@kern417okay I just gotta install lpfp port and reflex plus turbo all at same time 😂. Or should I just do turbo on stock fueling just for base map and then retune with the other mods?
Two different companies, not the same. Also PureTurbos has been around for years, they do more than just B58 Turbos and have been doing higher-end performance cars like Ferrari’s and McLarens with no issues. They’ve pretty much paved the way for the hybrid-market.
I got the pure 800 fitted and im just wondering if i would be better of getting a big turbo set up can u please do a video on the pros and cons of big turbo compared to hybrid turbo?
@@BelieveNothingAllLies please do not max out ur turbo. Even if it says it can handle 800, shoot for 700 so u don’t destroy it. I would probably go for either a pure 900 or a top mount turbo kit if u have the money for the install, the solenoid installation, and custom dyno tuning
Does anyone know if these B58 turbos perform better on xDrive or RWD platforms? Is there any difference between running them on one vs the other? Is one safer or better than the other?
I have a feeling that’s not true. Although I don’t think there’s a massive difference, I could very easily see one of them liking a big turbo better than the other, for any number of reasons. Which is why I asked the guy that seems the most knowledgeable on the internet about BMW’s.
What is the best option if i want until 650-700 hp? I have mhd stage 2 ots map and 100 octane with a catted downpipe and aluminum charge pipe?I’m thinking to do a turbo uprgrade
@@adzluxury4755 hit or miss most ppl have smoking issues like I did as soon as it was installed. Pure will blame everything but the turbo I know first hand because my car started smoking as soon as I installed it. They kept making me throw different parts at the car until the turbo failed completely. Started smoking like a train then boost was non existent. Pulled off the turbo the shaft play was the worse I’ve ever seen. They warrantied it but said I “over boosted” which caused it to fail to avoid paying for labor when I had to swap it
I checked out after the big news “T51 mod” what a b*llshit option.. Hasn’t anything to do with performance.. In Holland we say “All show no go”.. McDonalds racers..
Find more info on Pure's Website: www.pureturbos.com/
My M340i was the beta vehicle that they posted 👌🏽
On their website I don't see anything about a Pure 900. No mention of T51R mod. Says "uses stock housing" for all versions. Where is this Pure housing, new manifold option, etc.....?
Seeing some comments about how Pures seals are bad, I believe it’s a misconception that the seals have gone bad for Pures. I’ve had my Pure for over 40K miles with 0 issues.
I have had some smoking at one point in the past on decel once in a blue moon with a cloud coming out my exhaust, I added the radium dual-port catchcan and the mishimoto one-way check valve in between the line that connects to the inlet and since then I’ve had no issues considering smoke, aside from the usual blow by our cars give. I think people misconcept that it’s the seals, when in reality it’s the PCV system in our cars.
Also to add but I always check my set-up to make sure there are no boost leaks that can cause me over-spinning the turbo and blowing a seal itself. Again with proper maintenance, data logging, and ensuring you got a good tune. I’m sure you should have no issues.
Kern, can you please do a transmission video. Over here in the UK some 140i owners or fxx b58 owners use the 335d gearbox as a poor man upgrade to a built transmission.
If it works it works tho
Unless you want to spend £10K on a built box the HP70 is the way to go.
At one point I convinced myself the t151r mod was for me. However, long haul drives I think it will get on my nerves 😂
As someone who did it on their stock turbo and later regretted it, I just picked up my 900 without the T51R mod.
Does Pure have any turbos for the Gen 1 b58? They couldn't give me an eta on the new cast units. Maybe Ill just get the new DAW turbo that you got. Looking forward to those E dyno numbers.. 👀
Pure800 and pure850 are normally for b58 gen1 n gen2 are they just not in stock? Just looked pure800 and 850 are in stock for gen1 f chassis
My vehicle was the rear car with the 5.1 draggy and probably could get it into 4.8-4.9. Also worked with the shop MTech performance here in south Florida and tuned by Kagan.
Which turbo would you recommend on 93 only? Not looking for huge number. Under 550rwhp. Would the 650 be good for that? I just dont have time to mix ethanol or drive the car enough lol
I think it’s kinda obvious if ur pushing 550
@@Nytro423 not for a lot of people new to the platform.... I'm mostly familiar with v8s and coyotes. They're not that complex like this car. They ca. Run E out of the box without a bunch of other supporting mods.
@@98ws6m6cvert oh, sorry. If you’re 100% sure you don’t want any more than 550, then pure 650 is a good option. But I know a lot of people only wanting 600 and then they got power hungry and ended up getting a pure 850. So I would say if ur not completely sure, just spend the extra buck and get the pure 800 or pure 850 to save money in the future
You could have at least gave a shot out to the owner, shop, and tuner for been the first one to test the P900 out.
Kern! Could you pleaaasee do vids comparing b58 performance upgrade parts? For example, comparing the 3 most popular Intake manifolds and which is better in your opinion. Keep up the great content man
thanks for the dodgeball reference lol
You should make a video on the Omega 65 turbo that got released
I'm pretty torn. I'm fully stock minus DP and tune and leaning towards the Remnant Performance RP65 since it comes with basically everything including an intake and I think turbo inlet pipe.
But now there's a DAW Ultraflow 6466 and Pure900 (both I want a T51r mod on lol)
the top mount kits are really pricey and these ones are a good performance for value in my opinion, i would like a t51r mod on one of the budget turbos would be sweet
Daw is coming out with the TR51 mod too
Remnant also has t51r mod
@@giotrujillo360715 might look into that, im only on a stock frame hybrid rn
I'm gonna be a test dummy for the 650. '22 m240x Currently have a dp, custom tune, intake and charge pipe, exhaust and xhp but want to stay on pump gas. I'm adding meth injection and originally the 800 but went with the 650 as I'm not doing a built engine or transmission.
How’s it any updates? What’s the power levels?
lmk man, im very close to going DorchS2.5 and pure650 on my daily to make the most power while keeping stock transmission healthy 17 440ix
@@VivekTalwalker anyone did 650? Looking to do 620whp at least if not waste of turbo
How’s it going?
@@bman1668 can’t find any ppl using pure650 on YT so far, it’s lowkey overpriced. I’m just TU stock turbo rn, maybe aliexpress turbo lol
Damn no love to the shop and tuner 😭😭 car was built by mtechperformace and kagan was the man behind the keyboard 👍👍
Cant wait to see the real world results on the Pure 900 vs new DAW 6466 and 6769
P850 owner, so IDK if its worth going to a P900 (yet)
I think with sup mods and not in Miami pure900 can touch real 900, but I’m really interested of 6769 too
@@n0t_fast what and the fuck are you saying.
Is this English, or a chat bot.
@@n0t_fastMiami has good da
@@giotrujillo360715 Miami has hight humidity. My time has half second difference in 60-130 in different day. Also Miami has hight ambient temp.
How has your experience been with P850? I want to set it and forget it, I’m not planning on doing weird fuel mixes and shit. Just a HPFP, down pipe, and a tune. Is it reliable? Any problems?
What’s the bed the manifolds for daw and pure are coming out of the same manufacturer and just assembled locally
I’m running a TU pump on only 93 octane. Is there any point running something like a DAW Ultraflow or would I already be fuel limited on a flowmax 2.5+?
You’d be fuel limited. You would still get a few extra PSI up top vs stock turbo but you’re looking at probably 50hp at most. I’d say the two options are either go for Dorch ds25 on top of the turbo, which is 4k total (not including install if you want a shop to do it). Or put that money towards new car fund.
@@nickmarsden8129 Would the Flowmax be a better option over the ultraflow as I am octane limited?
on e30-e40 an upgraded turbo you can see 550 whp on tu but you are pushing the pump... stage 2 pump is good for 600whp, best optionfor fueling is tu, port injection and lpfp thats the cheapest option for fueling to utilize a bigger turbo
@@blackshottergshot Yeah flowmax is the better option imo. You’d probably make a little north of 500whp on just 93 after the tune is all dialed in.
@@nickmarsden8129 would DS2 make a big difference even on pump gas? I was under the impression it wouldn’t change much due to octane limitations
Was that a dodgeball reference
Touche
pure 900 ftw!
In your opinion would you pick the Pure 900, DAW 6466 or spring for a top mount DOC Race 6466?
I'd go doc race top mount with next gen precision 6466. Will support around 900whp with proper supporting mods of course. Just wait little longer because doc race is releasing tubular exhaust manifold with the kit soon. Just my opinion, probably little buyest because I have the doc race 6466 kit
Choose your spool lag from the list. I'd take the ultraflow x over all of those. But I am also bias because I have the last gen ultraflow.
The daw 6769 is the one u want
@@behindthebuild8016 that would be okay with a stage 1 trans only?
Hey I'ma buy a 6967 from DAW and all the products say no OEM tune and I need to install it and drive it. Would turbo get damaged if I baby it keep it under 2k rpm till I get to tuner?
Just buy a tune and get a base map before you install it
@@kern417okay I just gotta install lpfp port and reflex plus turbo all at same time 😂.
Or should I just do turbo on stock fueling just for base map and then retune with the other mods?
Pure builds great transmissions, but their turbos seem to be pure marketing/branding.
Two different companies, not the same. Also PureTurbos has been around for years, they do more than just B58 Turbos and have been doing higher-end performance cars like Ferrari’s and McLarens with no issues. They’ve pretty much paved the way for the hybrid-market.
I got the pure 800 fitted and im just wondering if i would be better of getting a big turbo set up can u please do a video on the pros and cons of big turbo compared to hybrid turbo?
Depends on how much ur pushing. He made a vid on it already
@Nytro423 I'm aiming for around 800 I want to max out my turbo
@@BelieveNothingAllLies please do not max out ur turbo. Even if it says it can handle 800, shoot for 700 so u don’t destroy it. I would probably go for either a pure 900 or a top mount turbo kit if u have the money for the install, the solenoid installation, and custom dyno tuning
@@BelieveNothingAllLies I am pushing 750-800 and im using a pure 850, waiting for the pure 900
@@Nytro423 what other mods have u done ?
Does anyone know if these B58 turbos perform better on xDrive or RWD platforms? Is there any difference between running them on one vs the other? Is one safer or better than the other?
This is like asking if a cheeseburger tastes better when you eat it out of your left hand vs your right hand
I have a feeling that’s not true. Although I don’t think there’s a massive difference, I could very easily see one of them liking a big turbo better than the other, for any number of reasons. Which is why I asked the guy that seems the most knowledgeable on the internet about BMW’s.
Pure seals are garbage right now, until they can improve their reliability, no way.
Daw 6967?
More ours power
I’d take remnant performance 65 Omega turbo all day than purecrap
What fuel mods would I need for a 900 on a 21 M340?
depends on what your power goals are, there are plenty of routes to take
@@kobe7401goal is 900 whp
if you wanna maximize it. start with PI w/reflex + LPFP
If you don’t do fuel upgrades, don’t bother upgrading your turbo, period.
What is the best option if i want until 650-700 hp? I have mhd stage 2 ots map and 100 octane with a catted downpipe and aluminum charge pipe?I’m thinking to do a turbo uprgrade
Did you watch the video?
PURE’s are junk my Pure850 went bad lees then 5k miles. Go full frame and call it a day
What is better in your opinion?
@@gggthaqi8043 Spool Performance top mount.
My pure 850 was installed 2 years ago and 40,000 miles later, no issues still pulls like a train every day
@@adzluxury4755 hit or miss most ppl have smoking issues like I did as soon as it was installed. Pure will blame everything but the turbo I know first hand because my car started smoking as soon as I installed it. They kept making me throw different parts at the car until the turbo failed completely. Started smoking like a train then boost was non existent. Pulled off the turbo the shaft play was the worse I’ve ever seen. They warrantied it but said I “over boosted” which caused it to fail to avoid paying for labor when I had to swap it
@@dieselstud2k6 its better then pure turbos?
I checked out after the big news “T51 mod” what a b*llshit option.. Hasn’t anything to do with performance.. In Holland we say “All show no go”.. McDonalds racers..
Be nice to get a reply bro or I’ll be unsubscribing.
How dare he not sit down and reply to hundreds of youtube messages!
@@carlsagan3065 be quiet
Entitled Much?
😂😂
@@durrellthomas4806 guess if I was walking into stores a stealing all their merchandise that would be ok though? So only entitled when it suits