Saturday AM Q&A Session, Low Carb Denver 2023, Health & Nutrition Conference
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- Low Carb Denver 2023, Health & Nutrition Conference. Watch the entire Saturday AM Q&A Session with speakers: Nina Teicholz, Khurram Nasir, Nadir Ali, Dave Feldman, David Diamond and moderator Eric Westman. We are releasing this important free content in its entirety for all to learn and enjoy. We trust you will find the content visually engaging and educational. Please subscribe to this UA-cam channel.
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What Nina doesn't know is that 2 years ago she saved my life one night while surfing UA-cam. I was not looking for health information on diet but what she said amazed me so much I persued it with several other videos of hers and Dr, Berry's. 52 pounds lighter and off 7 medications later I'd say her advice was good. I am shocked our government cannot relay this LIFE SAVING information.
Nina, Dr Berry, Dr Berg and so many more! If I were still listening to my doctor I'd probably be dead now, because he, like most doctors, promotes the garbage peddled by the US gummint. Or should I say "the Sales and Funding Arm of the United Corporations of America"?
Nina is a hero!!
She's certainly my hero. The more I learn the madder I get at our government and institutions. They literally lie to our face while trying to silence people like her. The last NIH food pyramid has eggs listed at the bottom and Lucky Charms as a healthy food. Gee, I wonder if big foods money had any influence in that? You can donate money to the American Heart Association to do research on your sugar donuts and if you give enough money the donuts will have the "Heart Healthy" logo on the box. Everything is a lie!@@Margaret2494
Thank you all. Especially thank you to David Diamond for keeping the science honest!!! I took a statin for 3 months, and had many side effects that I still have not recovered from. There are risks with statins, and I was told that there were no risks.
It was mind boggling stupid of Dr.Khurram Nasir to defend statins, by saying "we don't need a study to show that jumping out of a plane is dangerous" implying we don't need real studies to show statins utility.
@@foggymediaI heard it differently. We don't need a study to know that statins are dangerous.
Amen!
As a Pathologist's Assistant who has done at least 500 medical autopsies, I am convinced Malcolm Kendrick is right about the cause of heart disease and atherosclerosis. I have seen what he is saying. The various factors that damage the endothelium and its' surface coating (glycocalyx ) causes a clot to form, esoecially where there is high pressure where the arteries branch. The clot gets covered by a new endothelial lining thanks to circulating stem cells. Repeated insults causes more layers to form. When I dissected the arteries I saw layers of old clots with layers of reddened endothelium and never understood why it looked like this. This was especially dramatic when I cut through abdominal aortic aneurisms. They weren't fatty, they were more rubbery, almost fibrous tissue. Old blood clots.
The decomposed red blood cell membranes are the source of the cholesterol crystals in the microscopic sections of the clots.
"The Clot Thickens" is an excellent book and audiobook.
Wow thanks
Thank you - Thank you - Thank you. Dr. Kendrick is my medical hero. He should have been at this event.
Dr Kendrick deserves the Nobel Prize for Medicine.
Thank you Nadir Ali, David Diamond, Dave Feldman and Nina. Transparency in science is the key here as Feldman articulates.
And Khurram Nasir
@@keylockwood9487 And Nina has a surname!
I have a problem with middle grounds on some of these topics...not a fan of cholesterol based on n=1 data@@keylockwood9487
How disrespectful; not including Nina’s last name but doing so for all males on the panel.
This bad behavior also happens when females that have MD and PhD degrees are not called Doctor or are only referred by their first names; whereas males are all called Doctor So&So.
God bless you all!!! My dear friend since 1986... is a kidney specialist. For Christmas this year (2023) he sent me a HUGE basket of chocolates, cookies with sugar sprinkles and candy. Needless to say my cortisol levels went thru the roof when I opened the box. I have no words, but he'll be hearing a few from me.
I wish Dr. Jason Fung is here too. Nice conference learned a lot from it . Thanks all doctors,cheers
That was an outstanding discussion. It is an example how we can have healthy, nuanced discourse about challenging medical and metabolic issues without being unpleasant or demeaning to one another.
I believe that everybody is the science. I did keto. I ate my vegetables and it made my joints so inflamed. My lower G.I. issues did not go away. I had to get them out of my life and I am much much better for it. Would I suggest somebody do the same? Know what I say is You have to pay attention to what you are eating and how it affects your body. For me I went on the carnivore diet and I figured out what the problem was. And I don’t eat things that caused me issues. Everybody is different and nutrition can only happen if a person has a healthy gut and healthy digestive system, and can absorb nutrients from what they are eating. The garbage that they’re putting on store shelves actually do the opposite and they know that.
Same here. I was paleo. Went keto hoping that would be better for me but the volume of vegetables made my gut eat worse. Now on a all meat diet and never felt this good my entire life.
There's only one other doctor on this panel that really should be here. Dr. Aseem Malhotra. He likes to fight the drug companies.
This was excellent. Dr. Westman was as well excellent as a lead. Great panel! Thank you! Thank you for sharing with us as well. - Linda
Trouble is all too many doctors jump to the conclusion that most people should be on a statin. My doctor keep telling me I should be on a statin. I don't consume carbs at all and I've told her so and she keeps begging me to take a statin. I don't have heart disease, I've never had type 2 or even been above normal. Doctors are panic merchants some of the time.
You should report your doctor if they keep trying to push on you medicine you don't need.
@@lilascharmante2712 They know no better. It's their job. You have to teach them these days. I just say NO! firmly. She gets the message.
Thanks Low Carb Denver for more excellent content! Thanks Dr Gerber for releasing this video! We need to grow the groundswell around low carb and get this important information out to the masses
What an impactful panel!!! So much to consider in the management of atherosclerosis disease among metabolically healthy individuals and if/when treatment (other than diet/lifestyle) should be initiated (especially when considering Pharma side effects). Tip of the iceberg requiring more studies on healthy individuals. Sad that Joe Public needs to be the one funding this research but no other entity has as much of a vested interest as those who strive for optimal health.
I like the fact that these doctors are supporting their teaching passionately, not a lukewarm or playing safe not to offend anyone so to speak. I like Dr. Nadirs Intro that statin are worthless medicines, funny but true and strong with power speech, so as Dr. Diamond, kinda like not in between. Thank you
I am proud of Dr. Westman for mentioning Dr. Malcolm Kendrick and his book: The Clot Thickens. I'm disappointed that they did not discuss his hypothesis. Dr.Kendrick should have been there instead of Dr. Nasir, IMO
From Srilanka ❤ great program
Wow that doctor pushing statins so hard without evidence regarding major diet differences, saying that we have no clinical study yet on jumping out of airplanes with or without a parachute. He's trying emotional manipulation. And that study about parachutes never needs to be done for obvious reasons. If that's the best comeback he can offer, that's really sad. I wouldn't trust him as my doctor. Not enough logical thinking skills. No clinical trial has yet been done to test free driving to 5280 feet and back up rapidly, or crashing a car at 120 mph with no seat belt on, or jumping into active volcano lava, or swinging a sword at the throat of men. No clinical trial needs to be done on many things. He should have admitted that diet could very much matter for cardiovascular health and that people on a KETO/Carnivore/KETOvore diet might not ever benefit from statins. That clinical trial could be done. No one will ever do a clinical trial of jumping on a trampoline directly under a parked but running helicopter. Everyone over 2-3 years old knows the results.
The attitude that pushed many into queuing up to take an experimental MRNA shot without informed consent in breach of the Nurenberg Code! And many keep taking more of the experimental jabs.
I want to comment to the optimistic doc saying “radiation of a calcium score” being trivial - like a domestic flight. The reality is that fight radiation is delivered to cells over multiple hours. Medical intervention deliver that total radiation in seconds. That must affect cells very differently and therefore may be damaging.
Against the ability to learn something that can in turn save your life… should always be a personal informed decision
The root cause of heart disease is over-consumption of carbohydrates leading to fat accumulation and increased blood pressure. This (and the proportionallly lower cholesterol limiting the initial strength of the blood vessel) stresses the blood vessels causing fissures which are initially filled with cholesterol and subsequently covered with plaques (potentially influenced by plaque-building bacteria) that eventually block the blood vessel.
@MajesticArtimus There’s a bit more. I did neglect to mention foam cells/macrophes as well as the role of Omega 3/6 ratios in the diet, but that's the primary mechanism for the preponderance of cases. Nothing is absolute.
Seed and vegetable oils have caused heart disease to skyrocket.
@@karenreaves3650 Yep. This is the Omega 3/6 ratio component. The fats in these oils cause the integrity of the blood vessels to be compromised.
Vascular inflammation on dr cywes channel, just as you said. It’s just too simple and unfortunately, so many people are dying because of the doctors who should know don’t know.. and I unofficially think it always catches up with people when they turn 62 -dead.
I am still listening months later. Thank you so much.
OK the young man who was invited by his friend or relative I can’t remember who stood up and said we need to talk about the cause of heart disease is on the pulse. He has got the right idea. Get down to what they called bottom. Get to the bottom and start at the bottom and work your way up instead of at the top where all the money is. what he’s alluding to is what in our diet is causing the heart disease and he’s exactly right and that’s what these people are here to talk about. Don’t argue about should somebody be on a statin or not because the majority of us don’t think we should. It’s too controversial. Eating correctly it’s not.
I tend to disagree with the man that said, I’m sorry I forgot his name, that he is more positive about change. It’s not going to change. Because the money isn’t going to change. There’s too much money to be made in pharmaceuticals, and in manufacturing of all those oil foods. The best thing I can do is encourage people to shop the periphery of the store and help them understand that those isles are full of garbage and it’s not going to change. Even if guidelines do change, which I don’t believe they will people are still going to choose, those isles. It’s about choice. It’s about education.
The power of choice is big, and why it’s so important to get educated . And that is the hard part. Being able to make informed decisions seems harder for most with so much misinformation and disinformation .
If, according to your CAC score, you have a risk factor of 7%, shouldn't you just adjust your diet (keto) and lifestyle and do a new CAC scan after, for example, 3 years? In the meantime, you need to work on your high blood pressure, your insulin and your inflammation. For example, if your next CAC score is 8%, you can choose to do a CAC scan again after 3 years.
🎉 PLEASE, do the studies that need to be done. We need these studies to make a change.
What a panel of great people who are some of the best leading lights within the low carb world, thanks for bringing this
Too bad Dr Nasir took over the whole conversation, especially since he does not seem like a fan of low carb. I think the discussion would have been much more informative and interesting without him on it.
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Nina is correct (natch) there needs to be massive class action law suits like happened with tobacco. Drs who withhold info from diabetics re: reversing their disease are guilty of malpractice, for example.
Would be nice to see "blue zones" of healthy long living population on low carb high fat carnivore lifestyle.
No one on the panel emphasized the need for a minimum level of vigorous exercise, eg, 14 min. HIIT every other day (or one equivalent less-vigorous regimen), or to routinely ID persons who are fully sufficient in easily-testable factors like ‘vitamin’ D sufficiency, as baseline standards for who would be included in a study of the efficacy of a low ‘bad-carb’ diet (no fiber-free sugars; high-glycemic, low-nutrient starches; or highly-processed foods).
My hypothesis: healthy people on this exercise/diet regimen would show significantly better metabolic/lipid panel & heart/lung-healthy results.
A control group would be picked at random - many basically on the Standard American Diet w/ whatever amounts of sugars (sucrose, fructose, fruit juices); high-glycemic starches; and processed foods that entails.
There might be two study groups - one (like the control group) picked at random and the other being persons already on a low-carb diet for long enough to show up on their metabolic/lipid profiles.
The study would involve enough monitoring of and reporting by the study group participants re diet/exercise details to add credibility. Study length would be at least long enough to determine (a) how long it takes for the random group starting their low-carb diet to catch up to the ongoing low-carb group, and (b) for some confidence to be established that the rate of change in the participants’ periodic metabolic/lipid profiles had slowed enough to indicate stasis, ie, the likelihood that further changes in test results would be nominal.
The lady at 35:15 is spot on for many reasons!
Thank you.
Please discuss CIMT benefit of determining soft plaque
Isn't CIMT only used on corroded arteries?
I feel the inclusion of Dr Nasir on the panel really exemplifies why the medical fraternity is so slow to move. I was waiting for him to specify the research that countered Dr Diamonds statements?
I think also some law suits should start happening
Where are our carnivore/low carb lawyers??
Agree and I think Nina was spot on bringing that up. Pragmatic and realistic way to more quickly start making a difference. In the USA for better or worse things move and change vastly with law suits. We need some carnivore lawyers and some donors to make it happen
Its the CARBS, and SEED oils , Crisco margarine fast food ,that's the root cause in the last hundred years .
OK no the second man I don’t know his name I don’t know them apart. I am very sorry about that but he is the one that is speaking the truth. Ground roots. It starts at the bottom. It’s not going to change at the top. And he hit exactly what I said about the pharmaceuticals. We all have to be an influence on our friends and family.
Yes! Special thanks to citizen-scientist Dave Feldman for making the point that medical science is proceeding at snail’s pace in part because our studies are so often done on SICK PEOPLE.
When noting the example around someone on keto with high calcium score , we must ask if that person was doing keto and using seed oils Or lots of artificial sweeteners ? And assuming on a true clean keto (no sugars no artificial sweeteners no seed oils, no deep fried stuff) , then the next question would be for how long has this person been on keto ?
Plus of course what are the other risk factors and scores this individual had? I believe The answer is vastly on diet and life style, but not solely.
My understanding is that statins were developed and marketed based on a bunch of false assumptions about human bodies. Now that we know the premises were wrong, people are standing on their head, looking cross-eyed and squinting at the data on statins in order to find some way of saying that they help -- somehow, sometimes. Even the statins skeptics are doing this I think in order to appear open-minded. I think it's time for everyone to just admit that on balance statins don't do any good.
Agreed also look at the studies that try and say statins extend your life. How much is that extension
@@Damcarnivore Right. The report I keep hearing is that they extend life for 4 days. I doubt that it's even that much.
Monetize up to the end of the conference then release all conference material onto UA-cam for free access. This drip drip release is damaging to the broader public community and overall message of low carb.
Hrt dz is most associated with what Weston Price identified 100 years ago. Industrial seed oils & highly processed food consumption.
The bottom of the story- we don’t know if and when a low carb, insulin sensitive, metabolically healthy person with very high LDL will develop atherosclerosis. Unless we study these people for a decade we cannot be certain.
Problem with this low carb group is
Low carb = high saturated fat, to meet the calorie needs and because meat is tasty, so there is a bit of a bias there .
Being insulin sensitive is great but let’s not assume it’s going to prevent atherosclerosis entirely.
I understand that statins also increase your calcium score
Litigation is overdue!
If the medical industry causes 8.9% of global carbon emissions, but “animal” agriculture causes 3.9%, why aren’t we focusing on decreasing the NEED (and thus decrease global emissions ) for medical intervention by promoting metabolic health? 🤦♀️
This panel give this carnivore (8 months) hope!! 👏🏻🙏🥩🫡
I wish there's a button to skip over Khurram.
CAC is not the whole story.
I agree, and I see CAC as one more test to evaluate metabolic health. Even its result is based upon the patient's age, the Dr. reading it, how long one has been on a ketogenic diet and all the other tests done. My CAC was 287, but all my inflammatory markers(crp, C-peptide,lp(a)) were low, my triglyceride/HDL ratio was .4, and my lipid readings on NMR were on the best part of the scale. I am 72 and have been dieting on high carbs for all but 3 of those years, so I find plaque not surprising. Perhaps as the databases for CAC expand over the years, they will become more valuable.
We need more celebrity carnivores - ala Joe Rogan.
The needle will budge once we have a Kardashian on board… or Oprah! 😂
To the cardiologist: I understand that statins have stolen away the anti-inflammatory effects of aspirin, which used to be considered crucial yet is now pretty well ignored.
Hoping for a response …
19:00 Change your DIE-it!!!
That optimist is naive. If the guidelines and health/pharma system wasn't controlled by SDA, that would be a start...
I'm with Mr. Feldman. I am tired of hearing about fat a F with diabetes. PERIOD. Most of these people can get better by helping THEMSELVES by changing their eating habits AND do some exercise such as walking.
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These fat F are just noise along the lines of a healthy life. Cut this noise OUT and if the fat F cannot change, so be it.
Enthralling
Someone buy these guys more microphones instead of everyone spitting into the same mic!!
Some docters on the panel are getting panicy that their statins are goung to be refused by all in future. Hence they are trying to do a round about narrative basically undermining the efficacy of a low carb lifestyle
The long winded pro statin guy was getting on my nerves.
WOW nobody mentioned TRANS FAT . let food be your medicine .
Marathon runners are obviously not living a healthy lifestyle. Running that much is definitely not healthy
Too many doctors just need to be taken out of the profession.
The Indian man thinks he knows things.
We’ve all become orthorexic because of all this nonsense. Let us eat our Whole Foods and we will continue to make our favorite cakes which have been in our family for 100 years.
New term “orthorexic” to me and found it to not be a real diagnosis, but rather a term coined by a physician in the 90’s. I’m not thinking that people wanting to educate themselves and question the nutritional value of foods should be seen as trivial, or worse, their pursuits being labeled as some kind of illness. If the current nutritional guidelines were working, we probably wouldn’t have the escalating health issues we have today. This “nonsense” as you put it, is critical research and life changing for many. Your recommendations for “Whole Foods” is a broad term with many interpretations, and I find it interesting that you condone cakes within the same sentence. You might want to attend the next low carb conference to get a better understanding of why these discussions are needed.
Nonsense? You are free to keep drinking the Kool-Aid and eating American Pie.
Stop your nonsense commenting! Most people have developed health issues from years of following a novel diet based on standard healthcare guidelines promulgated throughout the western world. Your processed food cakes would not have been possible before refined sugars, and 100 years is a blink in the eye in the course of human development. Our whole food meat and eggs are healing our bodies to a point where we may be able to re-introduce less wholesome foods such as your family Christmas cake at some point.
@@karenrotzler1661 it’s getting obsessive