An update to my jam fix, some people have found that you can fully remove the floppy bit of the pusher, and it functions mostly fine-ish. Same solution as my mod, but it's reversible... if you wanted to for some reason. It doesn't fix all the other issues with the blaster unfortunately.
What do you think of Dart Zone's latest entries in their Pro-Max lines? We've got a lot of them in the warehouse for testing, so stay tuned for more coming soon!
I still have yet to buy any of their 2022 offerings, but honestly the Dictator's looking pretty hot. I might also want a Deuce Pro, its flaws notwithstanding.
The Tomcat and Dictator are more interesting to me atm. I really wanna love the Deuce but not yet. Though the first person to mod it up enough can have my money. I just want a good cowboy short dart sidearm that I can actually afford and want to use.
The Deuce is a disaster with its rotation failures. My Tomcat had QC problems with the shell being bent. The MK 2.1 has unavoidable ergonomic sacrifices with grip size and mag release. YMMV but its not for me and my small hands. The Dictator is a genuine improvement over the prior Conquest. I actually like this one. Overall this season there was more misses than hits for me.
I think DZ's dropped the ball pretty big. The 1.2 looks pretty seriously flawed, the 2.1 can be jammed if used too quickly, warped Tomcats are getting into customer's hands, and the Deuce is a flawed design. It's bizarre they've hit such a weird period.
@@Stevenwave- its not totally out of the blue if we take off the 'rose tinted glasses' for a moment and look at the year before, there are warning signs: the MK2 had inconsistent quality control the MK3 had jams when using Talons, and doublefeeds with some full lengths unpopular opinion for sure, but I'd almost say they've always had problems; we've just been willing to overlook them because high FPS and half darts from a big company was so new and exciting.
I appreciate the honesty in the review, and even more so appreciate the well articulated thoughts instead of just angry ranting about the product. It makes it seem like you truly thought out your opinion and the issues before getting in front of a camera. A professional through and through
I got mine from participating in the fpt, and I really enjoy it after replacing the stock and fixing jam issues (just remove the dart guide). It gets good performance stock and can be easily detuned for lower power games with the low power spring, and I love the grips. However I just can't recommend this blaster. You shouldn't have to rely on a fix for a $130 blaster to be usable as advertised. If you really want it, wait for a sale or see if you can buy one off an fpt player who doesn't want theirs.
@@outofdarts I was typically getting. around ~80 fps with the stock low power spring on dz max darts. I know some of my teammates were reporting getting around 100.
Hey I know I'm really late to this, but I live in Australia so getting this blaster here was a real hastle but very much worth it. After a year of using this blaster consistentley I only had one issue. A peice of an internal actually broke so I had to super glue it back on. But since then I have given this blaster a barrel extension and a scar barrel and it is amazing shooting around 230 FPS, letting me hit some crazy distance shots. So over all great blaster apart from the stock.
I also did a fairly extensive test/ review of the 1.2, and I would agree with your opinion. The only way to truly "fix" the jamming, is to remove the locks, and the dart guide at the top. The overall quality on the blaster is not representative of what Dart Zone has shown they are capable of doing. With that in mind, and considering they discontinued the 1.1 the only similar products to recommend are the nexus/ striker & the upcoming Game face Trion.
Great Review Luke! I always appreciate your in depth dives into these blasters especially from someone who actively makes their own blasters I value your input a notch above the rest.
I am on Nebula and during Foamcon, teams did photoshoots. We were asked to do some "tricks" with the blasters. I had the mk1.2, I won't go into what the trick was but, I flipped the stock to the extended position, put it into my shoulder, the force broke the stock and it cut my lip open. 🙃 We still got thrid so I can't complain
Though I also did silly’s cut outs, I figured out taking the whole tooth dart guide, that sits ontop, out which was a simple screw, it worked but it was really odd cause figuring out the tooth guide was pushing darts down or up which wasn’t giving a correct feed to dart gate and barrel. Since than I haven’t had any issues with it but we also did figure out that the spring itself sometimes gets kinked inside the blaster, after multiple uses. Great video Btw!
When I first saw this blaster in action, I immediately became concerned about the folding stock--generally speaking from what I've heard, the more articulation any mechanism has, the less reliable it becomes. Also, this may be an unpopular opinion, but I think N Strike attachment points have really no place in the 140+ FPS performance bracket. I get that more people probably have bigger inventories of N Strike stocks, but buffer tube stocks are generally more robust by design because they're made for airsoft and such. I don't think I was ever going to purchase this blaster anyway given how much better value things like the Nexus and Stryker are, but most of the reviews I've seen are enough to convince me that this one's pretty much a flop. Hopefully Dart Zone makes something better in the Mk 1.3 if they plan to continue the Mk 1.X lineage though!
Still can't believe that it made it to market like this. Let alone forcing players to use it in a tournament. Literally all their other releases this year (even the ones with similarly baffling qc) are a more compelling choice. Heck just perfecting my Nexus Pro is a more compelling option atm.
Thanks for the great review Luke…. Always good to hear someone’s experience I have messed with mine for a week now and I will say I haven’t had a jam problem yet….. but it’s so widespread that I’m just thinking I am lucky I do agree that the stock is bad…. The grips do move too much and the side rails have a slight wiggle to them But for firing my blaster a week in has not jammed once yet
I'm with you on the stock. Why did they go N-strike compatible on a "Pro" blaster? It just doesn't make any sense. Integrated buffer tube was always the way to go, so this was a bad decision and a downgrade. Don't even get me started on the "folding" bit. Makes matters worse and no one looking at this blaster, let alone operating it, would ever mistake it for a CQB option. You'd be better off with the Mk III or, if springers are your thing, either of the Mk II options now available. Add to the folding, N-strike compatible stock debacle the fact that we are STILL putting mag adapters in "Pro" blasters and barrel shrouds that do nothing for accuracy... C'mon, man! Dart Zone, I love you, but please... If it's going to wear the "Pro" label it needs to be "Pro." Integrated buffer tube. Short dart only. Oh, yeah, and put a SCAR on it. On that last point, even the ABS molded SCAR barrels from Worker make a big improvement at above 175 FPS. So, Dart Zone, you don't even have to get fancy with strings or *gasp* roller bearings! Though if you went for the later you could probably post it as a separately available accessory on your web site and make a small fortune.
Needs a custom more forward oriented priming grip (also vertical but totally at the front of the mounting solution). Make one for your shop. Edit: just unpaused to hear you suggest this emediately after yourself :-) Carry on!
I can’t imagine what DZ was thinking releasing a $130 “premium” blaster that falls so short of their cheaper, simpler options. It looks like they tried to cram too many gimmicky features into it instead of just releasing a solid, simple, robust product. My nexus pro is fantastic, and it was $40 on sale at wal mart. This is essentially the exact same blaster with a bunch of goofy unnecessary tweaks and additions that make it fall flat. It kinda boggles the mind that they would release something like this after so many home runs before it.
So far its not out in Europe - however I had the chance to test it very briefly at FoamCOn and then witnessed at the FoamProTour the disastrous jam issues the 1.2 has. If you use it just for plinking like at the booth at FoamCon it seems fine - but do you really need a Pro blaster for that? When using it competitively it was just a jam fest. So would I be willing to pay that price for it plus the rather high import costs to europe for that? I don't think so. All Pro blasters of this season have something I dislike (dart bending Tomcat, loosing its darts Deuce Pro, jamtacular 1.2 and a 2.1 with a microscopic magazine release that is way too chunky versus the 2.0 - and dont get me started on the Jurassic that launched the bending stock series of 2022 with Dart Zone). The Dictator is so far the only one that works like it should - not sure what went wrong there, but for me it will be a pass on most of them considering the way higher price sticker over here for them. Very well done and fair review. Too bad you could not make it to Endwar this year :(
Removal of the dart guide thing fixes jamming for the most part. Also, put a gasket of Gorilla tape on one side of the folded stock and on top of the N Strike lug and it's good to go.
It's best to save money and wait for the GameFace Trion that hopefully releases this month. The TRION will be cheaper and will help revolutionize blasters moving forward!
Do a review for the tomcat with your suggestions and ideas for mods you will do cause it has to be the BEST new blaster theyve put out! (especially since someone already made a mag adaptor, but I am sure you could clean up and smooth out their design XD)
I think a $130 Blaster having such significant problems is straight up unacceptable. It's not like this is the first Blaster Dart Zone have made, let alone a 'Pro' blaster. Also, why do they still insist on using a short dart adapter (especially if the blaster doesn't come with full length magazines and darts)? Cutting that out of the equation would maybe allow a better engineered blaster, and maybe even cost less.
I really don't think you'll be getting too much pushback on this, it pretty much seems the consensus on the 1.2. The nerf attachment point, while I can see why it would look good on paper, is a step in the wrong direction and the priming just does not feel right. This was rushed for some reason, maybe to make it to the FPT. If so, that was a mistake. It needed more development. I'm sticking to my Striker.
I like that they put the n strike attachment on it, I want to throw the lightning storm stock on it but it's high price and jamming issues makes me want to wait for it to go on sale or get it as a gift or later on thrifting maybe
They use the same mag release catch location and look similar, but from what I remember, Katanas fit in Dart Zone magwells and not the other way around. I no longer have a Jet Ceda or Game Face Prime in the studio to test though, so I can't be 100% sure.
I’ve tested the dart zone mags in a katana adapter a while ago out of curiosity and it worked fine from what I can remember. And I putting the dart zone mag the opposite way and it worked in my blaster just didn’t catch because it didn’t have the notch.
they're doing odd things lately. last years mags were Katana clones. This year though, the Dictator and Jurrasic (and maybe others) are using a Hybrid Mag. it has Talon geometry, but uses the Katana's catch location. This makes them compatible with Dart Zone's WildCard Adapters, but not Worker's Talon-only magwells.
Out of darts: do you know if you can change the grips on this platform? Also compared to this the Nexus and the striker which would you prefer for a game of HVZ. With tuning caps obviously.
Disagree with the N-Strike connector it's an innately wobbly weak spot that has no place on a Pro level blaster. stability is the priority, not compatibility with Hasbro Gimmick Stocks. should have kept the M4 Buffer Tube solid interface of previous Pro blasters.
It seems like dart zone's had a couple of misses this year: this pro 1.2 and the deuce pro have not been getting the reviews I've come to expect. I hope they can clean these issues up and keep making their otherwise great products.
I think the verdict is a bit harsh. Sure, the price tag don't match the product. But a 2 star out of 5 is too low. Asethetics is a big improvement over previous Nexus pro and Stryker. The double spring available for higher and lower fps is good package. Accessories comes with it are more generous than previous. 3/5 of will be my fair rating.
i think the tomcat it's ilk will make the DZ 'Pro' line mostly for collectors. i want a mk1, a mk1.1, a mk2, a mk3 and even the mk2.1 looks like it could be cool. the mk1.2 i want to see the community fix, and even then i'm not sure i wanna drop that much money on something i then have to buy a bunch of mods to fix. it's one thing to have a completely functioning blaster and mod it to suit your style and personality, and quite another to buy a lemon and drop a bunch of aftermaket parts in it just to get reliable performance. this thing seems to be the yugo of foam flingers.
I would prefer my Mk I over 1.2. I can no longer collapse it comfortably, because of the mods done to it. But I still love it. I have a nexus as well, and I love that one. I dedicated that one for less intense games, while mk I is meant for the latter due to its durable shell. 1.2 looks nice, but seems there were hiccups.
I think the Tomcat has dethroned the pro 1.x line, it’s definitely my preferred dartzone blaster. As soon as they opted to make the 1.2 support full length darts it became a fumble in my opinion
@@Mainz_1901 that's not quite technically true. To use full lengths the mechanism has to be compromised compared to one that only uses short darts. In a blaster that is aimed solely at the high performance market, it simply doesn't make sense. Like a lot of other decisions made during production of the MK1.2 to be honest.
So I know there is a lot of hate 4 this blaster but at its reduced price point of $85 id say it's worth considering you'll have to remove the dart guide and buy an alt stock for $15 and a scar for $10 for a total of $110. The Trion is $80 plus $25 for a extra mag and scar so $5 diff and as for the lack of space between the pump grip and magwell I removed the left side picatinny rail so I could prime the blaster similarly to the way you would prime the Trion by choking up on the pump grip its deff a fixer upper but worth considering for its functional gimmicks
i am concern because when nexus pro came out it was a game changer now a few years and the ones who suppose to overtake it are, in my opinion, wirst than the simplicity of the nexus pro.
I Got rid of this jam issue with electrical tape, i felt also that when adapter with loaded magazine. So I wraped the bottom of adapter with electrical tape and pushed the front part of the adapter as close as i could to the body, leaving back little down. When its so tight in there, it doesnt jam
Hopefully if there is a 1.3 it should ditch the full length option. Switch back to the buffer tube as this style provides great stock stability. The 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, nexus & stryker all suffer prime smoothness due to dart zone making these blasters fire full length darts & short darts.
Why are none of the blasters using PTS polymer I mean even the entry level Airsoft guns are rock solid. I've got an KWA EVE9 and man that is ridiculously rock solid. Has anyone modded an Airsoft body in a Nerf blaster? (I'm new to the space so sorry if this has been said by our ilk a million times)
Hi there! I don't actually think we've had this question before, so don't worry about it. While we're not familiar with PTS or Zytel specifically, some newer springer designs (at least compared to the Mk-1.2) probably use a similar composition of nylon polymers that make the build incredibly solid. The XYL Unicorn is one good example. Additionally, our latest short dart mag option is made with a unibody slide mold filled with glass-fiber nylon, making them the toughest hobby mags currently on the market. These are comparatively new developments in the hobby, though, so there aren't too many examples of blasters made with nylon-based polymers. Thanks for commenting!
@@outofdartsThanks 👍🏼 I'm pretty sure PTS/Magpul's polymer is glass-fiber nylon my primary is made out of the stuff and tbh I prefer it to mental replicas with how lightweight and durable it is. I've been looking at more of the stuff coming out now and it looks awesome, it's incredible what people are doing in the mod community. I'm an Airsofter most for the love of firearms and training (UK) so ownership of real firearms is prohibitive in its hoops and illegal use for logical self defense needs..... Anyway!!! I only get to play once a month if I'm lucky and I'd like to get my son into a similar hobby so Nerf seems like the prefect fit, with him only being seven I'm far more comfortable to get him used to safely handling a Nerf blaster before anything elses also you can play anywhere in reason haha so we can do both sports eventually. Thanks again.
So it hits around the 200fps mark on super light darts... they new darts are only .75g. This will falsely boost the numbers, whats it like with Worker darts... For a premium product at the price range that they are asking for... can't say that it works like a premium product... I think that previous iterations are better.. I will be passing on the entire line up this time, as they have gone backwards bigtime with this line up.
As of earlier this year, all Chronograph numbers you see in our videos and on our listings are a 20-shot average with fresh Worker Gen 3+ darts loaded in a low rate of fire Tachi. We have a specific setup and procedure in order to control as many variables as possible.
@@outofdarts I know your proceedures well Luke... And well you got it shooting hotter than most then on Gen 3 darts... most peep are a good 20-30fps slower on those darts with those blasters... The included darts are what most reviews show was getting it on avg to as close to the 200 mark as possible...
Then I imagine we'd have a 20-dart average in the 200-210 range if we used Bamboo 2.0s. There could be variances or QC issues between springs; our low-power spring wasn't getting the 80-100 FPS everyone else's seemed to.
Thanks for the great review Luke…. Always good to hear someone’s experience I have messed with mine for a week now and I will say I haven’t had a jam problem yet….. but it’s so widespread that I’m just thinking I am lucky I do agree that the stock is bad…. The grips do move too much and the side rails have a slight wiggle to them But for firing my blaster a week in has not jammed once yet
Also my arm has a natural curve when I prime so I don’t get pinched at all But I have tried to keep my arm as straight as possible (geez how do you shoot like this…. Lol) and if I do that I do indeed hit my hand….. ouch But once again I’m considering myself lucky that my natural way of priming that’s comfortable to me does not give me this issue
Also my arm has a natural curve when I prime so I don’t get pinched at all But I have tried to keep my arm as straight as possible (geez how do you shoot like this…. Lol) and if I do that I do indeed hit my hand….. ouch But once again I’m considering myself lucky that my natural way of priming that’s comfortable to me does not give me this issue
An update to my jam fix, some people have found that you can fully remove the floppy bit of the pusher, and it functions mostly fine-ish.
Same solution as my mod, but it's reversible... if you wanted to for some reason.
It doesn't fix all the other issues with the blaster unfortunately.
What do you think of Dart Zone's latest entries in their Pro-Max lines? We've got a lot of them in the warehouse for testing, so stay tuned for more coming soon!
I still have yet to buy any of their 2022 offerings, but honestly the Dictator's looking pretty hot. I might also want a Deuce Pro, its flaws notwithstanding.
The Tomcat and Dictator are more interesting to me atm. I really wanna love the Deuce but not yet. Though the first person to mod it up enough can have my money. I just want a good cowboy short dart sidearm that I can actually afford and want to use.
The Deuce is a disaster with its rotation failures.
My Tomcat had QC problems with the shell being bent.
The MK 2.1 has unavoidable ergonomic sacrifices with grip size and mag release. YMMV but its not for me and my small hands.
The Dictator is a genuine improvement over the prior Conquest. I actually like this one.
Overall this season there was more misses than hits for me.
I think DZ's dropped the ball pretty big. The 1.2 looks pretty seriously flawed, the 2.1 can be jammed if used too quickly, warped Tomcats are getting into customer's hands, and the Deuce is a flawed design. It's bizarre they've hit such a weird period.
@@Stevenwave- its not totally out of the blue
if we take off the 'rose tinted glasses' for a moment and look at the year before, there are warning signs:
the MK2 had inconsistent quality control
the MK3 had jams when using Talons, and doublefeeds with some full lengths
unpopular opinion for sure, but I'd almost say they've always had problems; we've just been willing to overlook them because high FPS and half darts from a big company was so new and exciting.
I appreciate the honesty in the review, and even more so appreciate the well articulated thoughts instead of just angry ranting about the product. It makes it seem like you truly thought out your opinion and the issues before getting in front of a camera. A professional through and through
I got mine from participating in the fpt, and I really enjoy it after replacing the stock and fixing jam issues (just remove the dart guide). It gets good performance stock and can be easily detuned for lower power games with the low power spring, and I love the grips. However I just can't recommend this blaster. You shouldn't have to rely on a fix for a $130 blaster to be usable as advertised. If you really want it, wait for a sale or see if you can buy one off an fpt player who doesn't want theirs.
Right, just buy a Max Stryker and spend a little bit on some accessories and you've got a better load out for (probably) cheaper.
Thanks for your perspective! What kind of performance were you getting with your low-power spring?
@@outofdarts I was typically getting. around ~80 fps with the stock low power spring on dz max darts. I know some of my teammates were reporting getting around 100.
@@bhizzle64Hmm. We occasionally got 70-80s, but the standard deviation was really wide. I was wondering if we got a bad spring.
Thanks, just picked up a brand new nexus pro for $27 at my local Walmart and now have zero regrets
Hey I know I'm really late to this, but I live in Australia so getting this blaster here was a real hastle but very much worth it. After a year of using this blaster consistentley I only had one issue. A peice of an internal actually broke so I had to super glue it back on. But since then I have given this blaster a barrel extension and a scar barrel and it is amazing shooting around 230 FPS, letting me hit some crazy distance shots. So over all great blaster apart from the stock.
Spicy intro!!! 🔥 Got this in yesterday I can’t wait to handle it and give my thoughts. More comments coming as I watch! 🔫💚
Can’t wait!
Your honesty is very much appreciated! I needed this review to properly evaluate whether I would bring this into my store inventory.
I also did a fairly extensive test/ review of the 1.2, and I would agree with your opinion. The only way to truly "fix" the jamming, is to remove the locks, and the dart guide at the top. The overall quality on the blaster is not representative of what Dart Zone has shown they are capable of doing. With that in mind, and considering they discontinued the 1.1 the only similar products to recommend are the nexus/ striker & the upcoming Game face Trion.
Hey I doubt you will see this but can you put like a flashlight meant for real gun rails, would that work?
I appreciate your honesty. Thank you for the video. Thankful for the whole OOD team. Take care.
Great Review Luke! I always appreciate your in depth dives into these blasters especially from someone who actively makes their own blasters I value your input a notch above the rest.
I am on Nebula and during Foamcon, teams did photoshoots. We were asked to do some "tricks" with the blasters.
I had the mk1.2, I won't go into what the trick was but, I flipped the stock to the extended position, put it into my shoulder, the force broke the stock and it cut my lip open. 🙃
We still got thrid so I can't complain
Though I also did silly’s cut outs, I figured out taking the whole tooth dart guide, that sits ontop, out which was a simple screw, it worked but it was really odd cause figuring out the tooth guide was pushing darts down or up which wasn’t giving a correct feed to dart gate and barrel. Since than I haven’t had any issues with it but we also did figure out that the spring itself sometimes gets kinked inside the blaster, after multiple uses.
Great video Btw!
When I first saw this blaster in action, I immediately became concerned about the folding stock--generally speaking from what I've heard, the more articulation any mechanism has, the less reliable it becomes.
Also, this may be an unpopular opinion, but I think N Strike attachment points have really no place in the 140+ FPS performance bracket. I get that more people probably have bigger inventories of N Strike stocks, but buffer tube stocks are generally more robust by design because they're made for airsoft and such.
I don't think I was ever going to purchase this blaster anyway given how much better value things like the Nexus and Stryker are, but most of the reviews I've seen are enough to convince me that this one's pretty much a flop.
Hopefully Dart Zone makes something better in the Mk 1.3 if they plan to continue the Mk 1.X lineage though!
fully agree
N-strike compatibility is just wrong for the PRO demographic.
having it just adds a weak point
Still can't believe that it made it to market like this. Let alone forcing players to use it in a tournament. Literally all their other releases this year (even the ones with similarly baffling qc) are a more compelling choice. Heck just perfecting my Nexus Pro is a more compelling option atm.
Thank you for giving an honest review.
Thanks for the great review Luke…. Always good to hear someone’s experience
I have messed with mine for a week now and I will say I haven’t had a jam problem yet….. but it’s so widespread that I’m just thinking I am lucky
I do agree that the stock is bad…. The grips do move too much and the side rails have a slight wiggle to them
But for firing my blaster a week in has not jammed once yet
Thanks for the honest review. Liked the look of it but maybe ill wait until 1.3 offering.
Thanks for the great in depth review. I'll stick with my Max Stryker as everyone is saying Mk. 1.2 has nothing better to offer over the Max Stryker.
I'm with you on the stock. Why did they go N-strike compatible on a "Pro" blaster? It just doesn't make any sense. Integrated buffer tube was always the way to go, so this was a bad decision and a downgrade. Don't even get me started on the "folding" bit. Makes matters worse and no one looking at this blaster, let alone operating it, would ever mistake it for a CQB option. You'd be better off with the Mk III or, if springers are your thing, either of the Mk II options now available. Add to the folding, N-strike compatible stock debacle the fact that we are STILL putting mag adapters in "Pro" blasters and barrel shrouds that do nothing for accuracy... C'mon, man! Dart Zone, I love you, but please... If it's going to wear the "Pro" label it needs to be "Pro." Integrated buffer tube. Short dart only. Oh, yeah, and put a SCAR on it. On that last point, even the ABS molded SCAR barrels from Worker make a big improvement at above 175 FPS. So, Dart Zone, you don't even have to get fancy with strings or *gasp* roller bearings! Though if you went for the later you could probably post it as a separately available accessory on your web site and make a small fortune.
Needs a custom more forward oriented priming grip (also vertical but totally at the front of the mounting solution). Make one for your shop.
Edit: just unpaused to hear you suggest this emediately after yourself :-) Carry on!
I can’t imagine what DZ was thinking releasing a $130 “premium” blaster that falls so short of their cheaper, simpler options.
It looks like they tried to cram too many gimmicky features into it instead of just releasing a solid, simple, robust product.
My nexus pro is fantastic, and it was $40 on sale at wal mart. This is essentially the exact same blaster with a bunch of goofy unnecessary tweaks and additions that make it fall flat.
It kinda boggles the mind that they would release something like this after so many home runs before it.
So far its not out in Europe - however I had the chance to test it very briefly at FoamCOn and then witnessed at the FoamProTour the disastrous jam issues the 1.2 has. If you use it just for plinking like at the booth at FoamCon it seems fine - but do you really need a Pro blaster for that? When using it competitively it was just a jam fest. So would I be willing to pay that price for it plus the rather high import costs to europe for that? I don't think so. All Pro blasters of this season have something I dislike (dart bending Tomcat, loosing its darts Deuce Pro, jamtacular 1.2 and a 2.1 with a microscopic magazine release that is way too chunky versus the 2.0 - and dont get me started on the Jurassic that launched the bending stock series of 2022 with Dart Zone). The Dictator is so far the only one that works like it should - not sure what went wrong there, but for me it will be a pass on most of them considering the way higher price sticker over here for them. Very well done and fair review. Too bad you could not make it to Endwar this year :(
Removal of the dart guide thing fixes jamming for the most part. Also, put a gasket of Gorilla tape on one side of the folded stock and on top of the N Strike lug and it's good to go.
It's best to save money and wait for the GameFace Trion that hopefully releases this month. The TRION will be cheaper and will help revolutionize blasters moving forward!
i love your honesty !!! thank you sir
Are you anticipating an m79 review? PS loved the intro music!
Do a review for the tomcat with your suggestions and ideas for mods you will do cause it has to be the BEST new blaster theyve put out! (especially since someone already made a mag adaptor, but I am sure you could clean up and smooth out their design XD)
I think a $130 Blaster having such significant problems is straight up unacceptable. It's not like this is the first Blaster Dart Zone have made, let alone a 'Pro' blaster. Also, why do they still insist on using a short dart adapter (especially if the blaster doesn't come with full length magazines and darts)? Cutting that out of the equation would maybe allow a better engineered blaster, and maybe even cost less.
I really don't think you'll be getting too much pushback on this, it pretty much seems the consensus on the 1.2. The nerf attachment point, while I can see why it would look good on paper, is a step in the wrong direction and the priming just does not feel right. This was rushed for some reason, maybe to make it to the FPT. If so, that was a mistake. It needed more development. I'm sticking to my Striker.
I like that they put the n strike attachment on it, I want to throw the lightning storm stock on it but it's high price and jamming issues makes me want to wait for it to go on sale or get it as a gift or later on thrifting maybe
I think the Tomcat has dethroned the pro 1.x line, it’s definitely my preferred dartzone blaster
And its easier to remember “Tomcat”. Dzp mk 1.2 & 2.1 is confusing. It also already has a mag adapter so they’re’s no reason to buy the 1.2
Dart Zone mags are katana geometry by the way?
The reaction to when the stock flexed and popped out of position was amazing 😂.
They use the same mag release catch location and look similar, but from what I remember, Katanas fit in Dart Zone magwells and not the other way around. I no longer have a Jet Ceda or Game Face Prime in the studio to test though, so I can't be 100% sure.
I’ve tested the dart zone mags in a katana adapter a while ago out of curiosity and it worked fine from what I can remember. And I putting the dart zone mag the opposite way and it worked in my blaster just didn’t catch because it didn’t have the notch.
they're doing odd things lately.
last years mags were Katana clones.
This year though, the Dictator and Jurrasic (and maybe others) are using a Hybrid Mag.
it has Talon geometry, but uses the Katana's catch location.
This makes them compatible with Dart Zone's WildCard Adapters, but not Worker's Talon-only magwells.
Out of darts: do you know if you can change the grips on this platform? Also compared to this the Nexus and the striker which would you prefer for a game of HVZ. With tuning caps obviously.
It has Pic rail under the foregrip so yes
Disagree with the N-Strike connector
it's an innately wobbly weak spot that has no place on a Pro level blaster.
stability is the priority, not compatibility with Hasbro Gimmick Stocks.
should have kept the M4 Buffer Tube solid interface of previous Pro blasters.
It seems like dart zone's had a couple of misses this year: this pro 1.2 and the deuce pro have not been getting the reviews I've come to expect. I hope they can clean these issues up and keep making their otherwise great products.
I see no need to race after this. Happy with my Nexus Pro
Way more excited for the Trion.
I think the verdict is a bit harsh. Sure, the price tag don't match the product. But a 2 star out of 5 is too low. Asethetics is a big improvement over previous Nexus pro and Stryker. The double spring available for higher and lower fps is good package. Accessories comes with it are more generous than previous. 3/5 of will be my fair rating.
i think the tomcat it's ilk will make the DZ 'Pro' line mostly for collectors. i want a mk1, a mk1.1, a mk2, a mk3 and even the mk2.1 looks like it could be cool. the mk1.2 i want to see the community fix, and even then i'm not sure i wanna drop that much money on something i then have to buy a bunch of mods to fix. it's one thing to have a completely functioning blaster and mod it to suit your style and personality, and quite another to buy a lemon and drop a bunch of aftermaket parts in it just to get reliable performance. this thing seems to be the yugo of foam flingers.
I would prefer my Mk I over 1.2. I can no longer collapse it comfortably, because of the mods done to it. But I still love it.
I have a nexus as well, and I love that one. I dedicated that one for less intense games, while mk I is meant for the latter due to its durable shell.
1.2 looks nice, but seems there were hiccups.
@9:53 He almost broke the stock right there... YEAH... that's an issue!
I think the Tomcat has dethroned the pro 1.x line, it’s definitely my preferred dartzone blaster. As soon as they opted to make the 1.2 support full length darts it became a fumble in my opinion
How is it a fumble? There's nothing they lose by making it support another variety of darts.
@@Mainz_1901 that's not quite technically true. To use full lengths the mechanism has to be compromised compared to one that only uses short darts. In a blaster that is aimed solely at the high performance market, it simply doesn't make sense. Like a lot of other decisions made during production of the MK1.2 to be honest.
So I know there is a lot of hate 4 this blaster but at its reduced price point of $85 id say it's worth considering you'll have to remove the dart guide and buy an alt stock for $15 and a scar for $10 for a total of $110. The Trion is $80 plus $25 for a extra mag and scar so $5 diff and as for the lack of space between the pump grip and magwell I removed the left side picatinny rail so I could prime the blaster similarly to the way you would prime the Trion by choking up on the pump grip its deff a fixer upper but worth considering for its functional gimmicks
If i could buy only 1 ultimate blaster 100 - 300 fps for in my garden as fun targeting pratice which should i buy ?
Depends on ur budget
i am concern because when nexus pro came out it was a game changer now a few years and the ones who suppose to overtake it are, in my opinion, wirst than the simplicity of the nexus pro.
I bought a couple of Nexus Pro at a Walmart for $29 yesterday
congrats
its good, but to be fair does need a bit of modding to be Great.
@@adriansue8955 I know. Going to a project. Got 2 to have a modified one compared with the stock blaster.
I Got rid of this jam issue with electrical tape, i felt also that when adapter with loaded magazine. So I wraped the bottom of adapter with electrical tape and pushed the front part of the adapter as close as i could to the body, leaving back little down. When its so tight in there, it doesnt jam
The spectrum stock i believe was just like perfect for me why make it foldable and have more weak links is beyond me
Hopefully if there is a 1.3 it should ditch the full length option. Switch back to the buffer tube as this style provides great stock stability.
The 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, nexus & stryker all suffer prime smoothness due to dart zone making these blasters fire full length darts & short darts.
Why are none of the blasters using PTS polymer I mean even the entry level Airsoft guns are rock solid.
I've got an KWA EVE9 and man that is ridiculously rock solid. Has anyone modded an Airsoft body in a Nerf blaster? (I'm new to the space so sorry if this has been said by our ilk a million times)
Hi there! I don't actually think we've had this question before, so don't worry about it.
While we're not familiar with PTS or Zytel specifically, some newer springer designs (at least compared to the Mk-1.2) probably use a similar composition of nylon polymers that make the build incredibly solid. The XYL Unicorn is one good example. Additionally, our latest short dart mag option is made with a unibody slide mold filled with glass-fiber nylon, making them the toughest hobby mags currently on the market.
These are comparatively new developments in the hobby, though, so there aren't too many examples of blasters made with nylon-based polymers. Thanks for commenting!
@@outofdartsThanks 👍🏼
I'm pretty sure PTS/Magpul's polymer is glass-fiber nylon my primary is made out of the stuff and tbh I prefer it to mental replicas with how lightweight and durable it is.
I've been looking at more of the stuff coming out now and it looks awesome, it's incredible what people are doing in the mod community.
I'm an Airsofter most for the love of firearms and training (UK) so ownership of real firearms is prohibitive in its hoops and illegal use for logical self defense needs.....
Anyway!!! I only get to play once a month if I'm lucky and I'd like to get my son into a similar hobby so Nerf seems like the prefect fit, with him only being seven I'm far more comfortable to get him used to safely handling a Nerf blaster before anything elses also you can play anywhere in reason haha so we can do both sports eventually.
Thanks again.
i just bought one, anyone know if the extra spring provided can go into a nexus pro? getting a nerf war goin and want viable guns
It looks kind of pink under the studio lights.
So it hits around the 200fps mark on super light darts... they new darts are only .75g.
This will falsely boost the numbers, whats it like with Worker darts...
For a premium product at the price range that they are asking for... can't say that it works like a premium product...
I think that previous iterations are better..
I will be passing on the entire line up this time, as they have gone backwards bigtime with this line up.
As of earlier this year, all Chronograph numbers you see in our videos and on our listings are a 20-shot average with fresh Worker Gen 3+ darts loaded in a low rate of fire Tachi. We have a specific setup and procedure in order to control as many variables as possible.
@@outofdarts I know your proceedures well Luke... And well you got it shooting hotter than most then on Gen 3 darts... most peep are a good 20-30fps slower on those darts with those blasters... The included darts are what most reviews show was getting it on avg to as close to the 200 mark as possible...
Then I imagine we'd have a 20-dart average in the 200-210 range if we used Bamboo 2.0s. There could be variances or QC issues between springs; our low-power spring wasn't getting the 80-100 FPS everyone else's seemed to.
I might still buy this because it is only $39
Seems like alot of the higher end stuff is so finicky...imo BLASTERS should be easy-to-use (just say'n) 🤓
Can this take a k26?
this video slaps
It looks like you fired 2 darts right at the end there 😂
We have reached the point where we complain about slight ergonomics instead of performance
Is this better than the stryker?
I think this blaster was made for Asian hands, not European. My palm almost has a callus.
So Gameface Trion then, eh?
It’s been a minute
Thank you you just save me $120 if I get one it'll be for video review and then I'll just give it away to one of my subscribers LOL
I like how you thought you broke the stock and covered your mouth lol
Its not acceptable imo the issue sot has
I need it
gawd damn
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Worker has killed this thing with the Swift and Harrier. Well worth the 30 dollars extra.
Thanks for the great review Luke…. Always good to hear someone’s experience
I have messed with mine for a week now and I will say I haven’t had a jam problem yet….. but it’s so widespread that I’m just thinking I am lucky
I do agree that the stock is bad…. The grips do move too much and the side rails have a slight wiggle to them
But for firing my blaster a week in has not jammed once yet
Also my arm has a natural curve when I prime so I don’t get pinched at all
But I have tried to keep my arm as straight as possible (geez how do you shoot like this…. Lol) and if I do that I do indeed hit my hand….. ouch
But once again I’m considering myself lucky that my natural way of priming that’s comfortable to me does not give me this issue
Also my arm has a natural curve when I prime so I don’t get pinched at all
But I have tried to keep my arm as straight as possible (geez how do you shoot like this…. Lol) and if I do that I do indeed hit my hand….. ouch
But once again I’m considering myself lucky that my natural way of priming that’s comfortable to me does not give me this issue