Instead of being publically mad that Leverkusen was the one breaking the Bayern dominance, Sebastian Kehl claimed that BVB made Bayern stumble so that Leverkusen could profit. Basically dude claimed an assist on the Leverkusen championship. Like that is anything that they can put in their trophy cabinett.
Strange considering if Dortmund didn't beat Bayern at the Alianz that season, Bayern still wouldn't have won the Bundesliga. So really, Kehl is celebrating Dortmund for doing nothing
What I'll never understand is how the board just accepts Kehl being nuts. The man has an extreme ego and is always having beef with people contributing far more than he is, and the club is just allowing all that?
You've hit a lot of points in this video, but it goes even deeper than this. As a Dortmund fan of ~20 years now, I can tell you the mentality of this club is finished. Watzke has done a lot for this club, but it is way past his time. They went from having serious ambitions to just being happy with top 4 while lowering the overall level of the club year by year. We have always made money from selling talented players and are averse to taking on significant debt, which is perfectly understandable given history, but at some point you have to start actually keeping players. Giving away everyone who can slightly play football all while just buying overrated Bundesliga players for way too much money has been a bad idea for the last decade, and the results are showing now. Watzke is stuck in the Jürgen Klopp times where a generational coach took an underdog team really far, and he's been chasing that high ever since. We have more people in positions of leadership than centre backs in the team, yet they're all mates of Watzke and mostly ex-players who've been around for the glory times. They have no idea what they're doing, yet they are extended behind the scenes (Kehl) for being absolute wastes of oxygen. This club needs a complete cleansing in leadership with no one left behind, and a tearing down of the team with a maximum of four players staying while the rest has to go. There's so much more going wrong in this club, it's probably an entire podcast video on its own...
If you've gotten sick of it, why not try removing Watzke from power? I thought the 50+1 ownership model allows the local community to take control of the club whenever they want?
Don't forget that it can always get worse. You think aiming for top 4 is bad? There are several cautionary tales in the Bundesliga that have shown that if you try to force success you can go down...very far down...into the abyss and into bankruptcy. What you are asking for is neither useful nor realistic, and it could backfire brutally.
What you said is very true ,but realistically ,what can Dortmund as a team do if a player of Jude and Haaland level wants to leave ? They arent as stable or cash influxed as other teams and the fans who are the back bone of the finances want to stay to their roots even tho is economically damaging for the club compared to the other big ones ,in my eyes is a dammed if you do dammed if you dont type of situation .If you try to keep players you risk to either lose them for free (Schalke went into financial problems because of this ) or pay them insane salaries that could backfire in the long run or remain the same and hope you somehow catch another CL final and hopefully you win it .
When Leverkusen won the League I thought to myself that Dortmund fans probably hated that someone else broke the Munich monopoly. I don't know about the fans but I think the leadership is feeling that.
Dortmund fan here, can definitely confirm I was extremely jealous of Leverkusen when this first happened. Luckily I was self-aware enough to check that jealousy bc at the end of the day, I am sure if it was us that had broken the Munich monopoly, Leverkusen fans would be nothing but elated for us. Also a good thing for the competiveness of the Bundesliga.
I dislike this comparison a little bit because it seems like some English lad without Bundesliga knowledge came up with it. Spurs are belittled for their trophy drought while Dortmund can boast multiple trophy's in the last 15 years alone. I admit, the mentality seems kinda similar though.
Historically speaking, this take is horseshit. In present day, however, i kinda wish we at least had someone like Son. You know, at least one really class player to cheer for.
Difference is Dortmund have beaten Bayern in the race for the title. Twice, even under Klopp's management. Everything started going to shit when they approved selling Lewandowski to Bayern.
It pissed me off when 2 years ago, they bottled a league trophy on the final day. They've stopped looking for good coaches and settled for good enough. And they've settled for finishing on champions league spots
That was so embarrassing for them and so sad for Marco Reus, the only solid constant while Dortmund sold all his best teammates. The Bundesliga from 2012/13 to 2022/23 really felt like Bayern was the superhero and BVB finishing second was the monster of the week they eventually beat.
I gotta admit I felt terrible for them when Leverkusen won it. I mean, Arsenal fans feel hard done because City finally slipped and now Liverpool have swooped in all of a sudden - but it's only been 3 seasons! Imagine that but for over a decade!
We should have won it two years ago, but that team was too inexperienced and it showed down the stretch. Last year, we should have won it and we just had to lose to ASTON F**KING VILLA twice!
For me the "decline" of Dortmund (i think its still too early too call it that, everyone can have one bad season) is their constant understatement. Theyre the second strongest team in the Bundesliga now for a decade, but if you hear their managers talk its almost sounds happy that they miracolously made the second place, again. This is not a miracle. You should expect being second, you should expect being first sometimes. But you dont cultivate a winning mentality when your goal is always not getting relegated.
@ It is actually a very German thing to do. I dont know why but we all seem to love to understate ourselves, constantly looking left and right, comparing what others clubs or nations have and can do with what we can do. The problem is that you lose the ability to see whats in front. Also a huge problem at Dortmund is something we call "Stallgeruch" - literally means stable smell. It often refers to recognizing shared origins, culture, or mindset within a group. When you look at all the people at the top, all of them Watzke, Kehl, Ricken, Sahin and Terzic already are legends in some way or another in the club, but there is no one with an outsiders perspective
It’s been insane watching the quality of the roster erode over the last 6 seasons while also choking a league title on the last match day and going to a champions league final. Somehow we overperform and underachieve at the same time
Watzke has this ridiculous idea that he is going to find the next Klopp and it just won't happen. They refuse to sign players even though we have no depth with the excuse that we have enough. It's so bad they recalled Ozcan from his loan cause Nmecha got injured. Can is also the face of mediocrity, always excuses in his interviews never good on or off the ball, not a good leader for this Dortmund side. Its a mess and I just hope that in the future they get to where I know they deserve to be.
Just watching this on my way to the stadium. As a long term Dortmund supporter and fan of your videos it's kind of sad to see you being this spot on. Great analysis, though. Hope today at least brings the first win of 2025... what a mess
The struggles Dortmund faces run deep and are complex. However you do give a very good overview. Because this video otherwise would need to be about 2 hours long. What is even more impressive, you did this from outside of the german bubble I assume, which must have been horrendously complicated. So big probs from me.
Honestly watching a video about BVB from someone who isn't a BVB fan always leaves me depressed, it just always seems to be lacking proper context and research. But no you nailed it man, first exception I've ever seen. Hats off to you brother ❤
This club reminds me of the girls or guys who don't mind being the side piece. Also people will argue this with me but I saw them as the villains during the Champions League final. Questionable ownership. Got lucky almost all the way. A club that disappoints its fans every single time and if am not mistaken even the fans were protesting something about ownership deals or something .
Not ownership. The Club officials know that the fans would torch the entire ground if they would even consider to sell even parts of the clubs shares. No, they presented in a new sponsor in Rheinmetall. Rheinmetall are, amongst other things one of the largest german arms manufacturers. They made huge profits on Europes security issues with Ukraine and Trump etc. and were looking for a sports sponsorship to polish their image. And Watzke et al thought it a good idea to finalise that deal right before the Champions League final. Also, that final was not out if pure luck. PSG bottled it HARD, i give you that, but we also played AC Milan, Newcastle and Atletico. Especially that game at home against Atletico was one of the craziest experiences i’ve had as a fan!
@janmichasolms4783 am sorry and I don't mean to be disrespectful at all but I cannot see them as the so called underdogs. They have the money and pretend to be underdogs. Just punishing fans never doing anything right with transfers. Making bad decisions and alot of players there are mercenaries at best how is that the hero in that story. They literally did all that and beat all those teams to bend over to Madrid. Even before that Madrid was being portrayed as the bad guy yet they have done everything right compared to Dortmund. There was another issue if I am not mistaken about TV sponsors or some shit that they were spear heading.
Dortmund also is destroying their own club culture. They claim to be progressive and that its a core value that makes them unique. They then signed Felix Nmecha who was not only against these values but they also overpaid on him making the transfer make no sense from a public, business or culture reasons.
Not just Nmecha, they are by far number 1 at buying out theor own league. And Bayern then buys the players Dortmund bought if they are succesful there. Götze, Hummels, Lewandowski…
The mentality of most German fans is the same. The derby with Schalke matters more than the UCL. Some people would be happy if we were relegated. Just today Kovac was announced as the new head coach. After he was fired from Wolfsburg, who were very patient with him and should have fired him earlier. Clearly, Watzke and Kehl could have been more ambitious. A mistake, if you ask me. But the German fans say: how can you know it was a mistake? This is a lack of ambition in the fans. This is just one example. So do the problems start at the top or at the bottom? The fans own the club and it is run the way they want. Just like Barcelona, you can blame whoever is president, but the average Barca fan would have committed the same mistakes. That's why whoever is president was voted by the fans, it's what they want to see. The fans in Dortmund and the area want to keep the club as theirs. They don't care about how popular the club is in the world. They don't care who watches the games. The same goes for more or less every German club other than Bayern. Btw Sammer still holds the record for the youngest coach to win the Bundesliga. Naglesman couldn't beat it. He was the sporting director at Bayern when they had their revival. And quit only because of sickness. As a player, Sammer was one of the few defenders to win the Ballon d'Or and was much more technical than people would make you believe.
They bought Stuttgarts best defender Anton, one of the most talented German strikers with Baier, the second best Bundesliga striker with Guirassy and Groß from Brighton for a total of 80 mio
The defeat 2 seasons ago was soulcrushing. Mainz beat them in the last game and they didnt even try. They kinda looked sorry doing so. Just sad. And ever since then, in the Bundesliga at least, it went downhill. In the CL they sometimes show their potential. Sometimes they are 2:0 up against Real Madrid at Reals stadium. Then they lose 2:5 after the 2nd half...
I realised this when in the final league match they decided to bench bellingham so that the price remains same.... bvb executive people just focus on how much money they can divide among their known people.
First of all as a fan I thank Watzke and Zorc that they led the club from close to bankruptcy to the established number two in Germany within like 15 years. That's great work! Imo the problem is that they are still searching for a second Jürgen Klopp. That's a pretty high bar to jump for any head coach that's coming. That can't work out. If you want to attack the top you simply need an experienced coach and you have to give him some freedom and time to develop a team that fits his play style. The team is in constant change. There aren't any key players that constantly show good performances. Maybe Schlotterbeck, Kobel and Guirassy. The rest of the team is kinda average. The only reason they performed good were players like Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, Dembele, or Pulisic that really made a difference. Transfers are horrible. Couto, Nmecha and Beier combined for around 85 - 90 mils but Maatsen and Sancho were too expensive to keep? WTF is management thinking? Buying one season wonders instead of players that have already proven to work well in the squad.
Watzke gave an interview before the Mainz game where they bottled the league. He was basically telling the fans not to worry and to be ready to celebrate. Boy was he wrong. Felt very karmic that they lost
Honestly even though I'm from Africa and the bundesliga is not as popular I was so happy when Leverkusen broke the monopoly..but I more or less wished to see Marco reus holding the meistershale atleast once man🥲
I live in Dortmund since 25 years and have been a supporter since my father took me to the Westfalenstadion in 2002. And I am fed up with how Watzke leads the club since at least 8 years. I always criticised the search for the second Jürgen Klopp and that the club never really acted like a true Number two behind Bayern München. We always acted like we’re still the Broke Borussia Dortmund from 10 years ago and if we were happy with finishing second. However no one wanted to listen. All my friends and family asked me how I could criticise the man who saved our club and led it back to success. Football in the Ruhrgebiet is very emotional. You can see that with Schalke. And this leads to people getting promoted to jobs which they never would’ve got if they not be close to the club themselves. People here are very nostalgic which leads to problems not being prohibited before they occurre. This is the first time in 20 years that Watzke actually receives broad criticism. In a less emotional club, he would’ve got questioned 10 years ago.
wow, just a few years after supporting BVB i now somewhat know how it feels like to be a Spurs fan (i am also a Chelsea and Atleti fan), even though BVB is a bigger club than Spurs.
@@lucqq3792 there are many people outside who support more than 1 club (local and international club) and their national team. i don’t think what i am doing is that unique or new. 3 different clubs from 3 different countries. there are people in England who i know who support Brentford (because they were raised and live there) and Chelsea, even though the 2 are local rivals.
If Dortmund was a serious ambitious Club they should have toppled Bayern Munich by now as Germany's Biggest Club. That Klopp era ended badly because they failed to back him and be ambitious in the transfer market. There's something Atletico Madrid did that Dortmund should have done after that 2013 UCL Final. Atletico Madrid kept their stars and recruited more players and within a couple of years they had enough money to build a Magnificent Stadium because more people were watching them meaning more money coming in and now they're a Top Club that can challenge Real Madrid and Barcelona, remember for a short period of time they were also a force in the Champions League. Dortmund did the hard part, they kept the man behind the success Klopp. The easy part was now backing him like Liverpool did look where Liverpool are now.
You can only go on the same business model of buying cheap and selling high for so long. You have to get the recruitment right everytime, and once you accumulate a few signings that are not on the same level of quality and potential as it needs to be to sustain the league and cup performances, you end up in a downward spiral like they are in right now. Not keeping key players and not maximizing/capitalizing your commercial value, how do you expect to bridge the gap to Bayern and the rest of the elite teams in the continent?
The whole board needs to leave. The members are either to emotionally attached to the club to see what's going wrong or only care about the financial element that directly effects their pockets. Every managerial appointment bar tuchel has been underwhelming and their transfer business has been awful, not to mention they wasted bellingham and haaland when they could of challenged. If your ceo says it's fine to miss out on the champions league because they're are in the club world cup, he should be sacked immediately.
As I BVB fan, I feel like you're doing Mislintat very dirty. Does he have a high go, yes. Does he have the talent to back that, also yes. Kehl for one has the same ego Mislintat has but has been very questionable at his job, so honestly I find it only fair that Mislintat finds he deserves to have a higher position than Kehl rather than the other way around. Yes these 2 are both nuts, but 1 of them does far more good than bad.
Just compare Bayern and Dortmunds club idols. Müller won everything and is a loudspeaker on the pitch. Reus was always runners up, injury prone and even lost his status as a captain in his last season.
For me the Bayern dominance in the bundesliga wasn't because Bayern were too good for the league but because their competition was too incompetent, Dormunt always had a chance, they were always ahead of Bayern at some moment of the season, but they always found the way to lose the league against a not that good Bayern
Joke of a front office. Massive club, massive following but put all their focus on signing young talents and selling them off to more ambitious clubs, often Bayern.
@@rethabilefeni4694 Chelsea won't sell Caicedo, Ferndanez, Palmer etc. tho. Okay maybe Palmer might go at some point, but many of those players are there to stay.
Dortmund boought way more players from Bayern in the last 10 years than Bayern from Dortmund. It's a myth that Bayern buy many Dortmund players. There were just some big names like Lewa and Götze. Dortmund are the biggest Bundesliga transfer farmers. Bought Stuttgarts best Striker and defender this season for example.
As a dortmund fan i can say, this is what happens when youre always ok with being second. We’ve got ourselfs a team with a loser mentality because we forgot how to even try. If we don‘t change that we will stay a loser team and i fear that we will end up just like Schalke or Hamburg.
Dortmund wasnt a big club before the mid 90s but they will find a way to come out of this. Ten Hag is the perfect choice for them he even worked in Germany and know how to work with young players. People tend to hate on Bayern but if you look closely Dortmund is buying more players from direct opponents then Bayern.
I think the rest of the Bundesliga just resigns to the fact that they'll never reach Bayern's level because Bayern Munich will take everyone's players....
I think they try bro it’s just tough on them financially. Their ownership model is different from the prem. Nowadays any mid table club can keep their best player. ie mbuemo at Brentford is a perfect example. If he was a friedberg player lord knows he would be bought a long time ago
@@tasbhu764 Bro i am German i know the Bundesliga. Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Leverkusen are all able to do better transfers in worse situations. Your best players being bought of is one thing your scouting bad players to replace them is another. I don't expect 1 to 1 replacements for Haaland and Bellingham, but i do expect good reinvestments for that money.
but their fans are always yelling about cheap tickets, and how fans built the game ( your typical german bundesliga stans), they forgot to built their club to win, the club basiccaly is just a concert now, actually most of the teams in bundesliga, just concerts with cheap entry and a rough crowd, like the good old days for rock band concert
I used to love that Club but lately I became a hater. Losers mentality and all they look for is to find young players to sell them to whoever pays the most. It still crazy to me that they allowed Bayern Munich get so much talent from them.
Their mentality: "The league owes us a title" is the reason of their failures. U have to earn it
First to like this hard to swallow pill of a comment
As a Dortmund fan, I don’t want to say we deserved a title in the last 12 years. If we deserved it, then why didn’t we win it?
@@Averifiedperson7712 respect for being honest
@@Averifiedperson7712fire pfp btw
Dortmund deserve nothing, Bayern earn their trophies through hardship
Instead of being publically mad that Leverkusen was the one breaking the Bayern dominance, Sebastian Kehl claimed that BVB made Bayern stumble so that Leverkusen could profit. Basically dude claimed an assist on the Leverkusen championship.
Like that is anything that they can put in their trophy cabinett.
Meanwhile in the previous year they lost at a 2 point lead in the last match against a oponent that wasn't competing for anything
Strange considering if Dortmund didn't beat Bayern at the Alianz that season, Bayern still wouldn't have won the Bundesliga. So really, Kehl is celebrating Dortmund for doing nothing
Bashing lack of trophy in a sponsor/ownerless league? Plastic
German stupidity
What I'll never understand is how the board just accepts Kehl being nuts. The man has an extreme ego and is always having beef with people contributing far more than he is, and the club is just allowing all that?
You've hit a lot of points in this video, but it goes even deeper than this. As a Dortmund fan of ~20 years now, I can tell you the mentality of this club is finished. Watzke has done a lot for this club, but it is way past his time. They went from having serious ambitions to just being happy with top 4 while lowering the overall level of the club year by year. We have always made money from selling talented players and are averse to taking on significant debt, which is perfectly understandable given history, but at some point you have to start actually keeping players. Giving away everyone who can slightly play football all while just buying overrated Bundesliga players for way too much money has been a bad idea for the last decade, and the results are showing now.
Watzke is stuck in the Jürgen Klopp times where a generational coach took an underdog team really far, and he's been chasing that high ever since. We have more people in positions of leadership than centre backs in the team, yet they're all mates of Watzke and mostly ex-players who've been around for the glory times. They have no idea what they're doing, yet they are extended behind the scenes (Kehl) for being absolute wastes of oxygen. This club needs a complete cleansing in leadership with no one left behind, and a tearing down of the team with a maximum of four players staying while the rest has to go. There's so much more going wrong in this club, it's probably an entire podcast video on its own...
If you've gotten sick of it, why not try removing Watzke from power? I thought the 50+1 ownership model allows the local community to take control of the club whenever they want?
100% correct! nur der BVB!
Don't forget that it can always get worse. You think aiming for top 4 is bad? There are several cautionary tales in the Bundesliga that have shown that if you try to force success you can go down...very far down...into the abyss and into bankruptcy. What you are asking for is neither useful nor realistic, and it could backfire brutally.
What you said is very true ,but realistically ,what can Dortmund as a team do if a player of Jude and Haaland level wants to leave ? They arent as stable or cash influxed as other teams and the fans who are the back bone of the finances want to stay to their roots even tho is economically damaging for the club compared to the other big ones ,in my eyes is a dammed if you do dammed if you dont type of situation .If you try to keep players you risk to either lose them for free (Schalke went into financial problems because of this ) or pay them insane salaries that could backfire in the long run or remain the same and hope you somehow catch another CL final and hopefully you win it .
Dortmund next hamburg??
When Leverkusen won the League I thought to myself that Dortmund fans probably hated that someone else broke the Munich monopoly. I don't know about the fans but I think the leadership is feeling that.
Dortmund fan here, can definitely confirm I was extremely jealous of Leverkusen when this first happened. Luckily I was self-aware enough to check that jealousy bc at the end of the day, I am sure if it was us that had broken the Munich monopoly, Leverkusen fans would be nothing but elated for us. Also a good thing for the competiveness of the Bundesliga.
Some people called Borussia Dortmund are just yellow Tottenham Hotspur with positive Public Image.
yes they are
I dislike this comparison a little bit because it seems like some English lad without Bundesliga knowledge came up with it. Spurs are belittled for their trophy drought while Dortmund can boast multiple trophy's in the last 15 years alone. I admit, the mentality seems kinda similar though.
But they do win other trophies tho 😅😅
Historically speaking, this take is horseshit. In present day, however, i kinda wish we at least had someone like Son. You know, at least one really class player to cheer for.
Difference is Dortmund have beaten Bayern in the race for the title. Twice, even under Klopp's management. Everything started going to shit when they approved selling Lewandowski to Bayern.
It pissed me off when 2 years ago, they bottled a league trophy on the final day. They've stopped looking for good coaches and settled for good enough. And they've settled for finishing on champions league spots
Losing at home to Mainz while the whole city is ready to celebrate the Meistertitel is a true classic Borussia Dortmund moment.
@nnamggiFellauQrD bro it was the whole football world that was ready to celebrate!
@@nnamggiFellauQrD Wasn't it a draw?
That was so embarrassing for them and so sad for Marco Reus, the only solid constant while Dortmund sold all his best teammates. The Bundesliga from 2012/13 to 2022/23 really felt like Bayern was the superhero and BVB finishing second was the monster of the week they eventually beat.
Could be worse
I gotta admit I felt terrible for them when Leverkusen won it. I mean, Arsenal fans feel hard done because City finally slipped and now Liverpool have swooped in all of a sudden - but it's only been 3 seasons! Imagine that but for over a decade!
We should have won it two years ago, but that team was too inexperienced and it showed down the stretch. Last year, we should have won it and we just had to lose to ASTON F**KING VILLA twice!
@@M_11_m41n and this year some dude with a gloriously shiny head has appeared
@@tommcevoy4872 Don't jinx it. 😂
@@tommcevoy4872I was one of those that thought a new manager could never lift the EPL in their first season 😂😂 baldy is proving us wrong lmao
@M_11_m41n no excuses
Leicester did it with a lot less experience
Blackburn as well
The world owes Reus a bundesliga
No one owes anyone anything, you have to earn it to have it
This type of mentality is the reason of their failures. U gotta earn it not beg for it
@@rishie5261 he's earned it 4 times over
No
@@sonang7721 wdym no, why, explain please
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For me the "decline" of Dortmund (i think its still too early too call it that, everyone can have one bad season) is their constant understatement. Theyre the second strongest team in the Bundesliga now for a decade, but if you hear their managers talk its almost sounds happy that they miracolously made the second place, again. This is not a miracle. You should expect being second, you should expect being first sometimes. But you dont cultivate a winning mentality when your goal is always not getting relegated.
It's strange how Watzke talks like Dortmund are a small club...
@ It is actually a very German thing to do. I dont know why but we all seem to love to understate ourselves, constantly looking left and right, comparing what others clubs or nations have and can do with what we can do. The problem is that you lose the ability to see whats in front. Also a huge problem at Dortmund is something we call "Stallgeruch" - literally means stable smell. It often refers to recognizing shared origins, culture, or mindset within a group. When you look at all the people at the top, all of them Watzke, Kehl, Ricken, Sahin and Terzic already are legends in some way or another in the club, but there is no one with an outsiders perspective
As a kid I always thought dortmond had the coolest logo playing fifa
Same, literally the whole reason I started supporting the team
Clubs with initials as their logo are rad as f. Think Inter Milan, Fluminense, and ofc Dortmund
Still is. It’s super simple but very bold and easy to remember
@@mrartdecoSchalke logo is even better coming from a HSV fan.
It’s been insane watching the quality of the roster erode over the last 6 seasons while also choking a league title on the last match day and going to a champions league final. Somehow we overperform and underachieve at the same time
well said
Watzke has this ridiculous idea that he is going to find the next Klopp and it just won't happen. They refuse to sign players even though we have no depth with the excuse that we have enough. It's so bad they recalled Ozcan from his loan cause Nmecha got injured. Can is also the face of mediocrity, always excuses in his interviews never good on or off the ball, not a good leader for this Dortmund side. Its a mess and I just hope that in the future they get to where I know they deserve to be.
this absolutely nailed it
most german football news outlets didn't get this down so sharp and concise
well done mate
👍
Just watching this on my way to the stadium. As a long term Dortmund supporter and fan of your videos it's kind of sad to see you being this spot on. Great analysis, though. Hope today at least brings the first win of 2025... what a mess
Love your content man. I always look forward to it. Keep up with it.
The struggles Dortmund faces run deep and are complex.
However you do give a very good overview. Because this video otherwise would need to be about 2 hours long.
What is even more impressive, you did this from outside of the german bubble I assume, which must have been horrendously complicated.
So big probs from me.
Once again a wonderful Bundesliga video
As a Fan who holds Borussia Dortmund second closest to his heard, perfekt video.
Maybe adress why the squad is thin build this season.
Honestly watching a video about BVB from someone who isn't a BVB fan always leaves me depressed, it just always seems to be lacking proper context and research. But no you nailed it man, first exception I've ever seen. Hats off to you brother ❤
Had me in the first half of the comment haha! Thanks, really appreciate that!
1:52-1:56
Guess who will get relegated first from top-flight football this season???
Borussia Dortmund.
Tottenham Hotspurs.
Manchester United.
Great video man
Been waiting on this one
Great watch 🫡
Brilliant video 👏🏻
another great video Tinashe! keep up the good work. enjoyed the video & will be looking for more (and the livestreams also)!
Great video. Keep up the good work🔥🔥
This club reminds me of the girls or guys who don't mind being the side piece.
Also people will argue this with me but I saw them as the villains during the Champions League final. Questionable ownership. Got lucky almost all the way. A club that disappoints its fans every single time and if am not mistaken even the fans were protesting something about ownership deals or something .
Not ownership. The Club officials know that the fans would torch the entire ground if they would even consider to sell even parts of the clubs shares. No, they presented in a new sponsor in Rheinmetall. Rheinmetall are, amongst other things one of the largest german arms manufacturers. They made huge profits on Europes security issues with Ukraine and Trump etc. and were looking for a sports sponsorship to polish their image. And Watzke et al thought it a good idea to finalise that deal right before the Champions League final.
Also, that final was not out if pure luck. PSG bottled it HARD, i give you that, but we also played AC Milan, Newcastle and Atletico. Especially that game at home against Atletico was one of the craziest experiences i’ve had as a fan!
@janmichasolms4783 am sorry and I don't mean to be disrespectful at all but I cannot see them as the so called underdogs. They have the money and pretend to be underdogs. Just punishing fans never doing anything right with transfers. Making bad decisions and alot of players there are mercenaries at best how is that the hero in that story.
They literally did all that and beat all those teams to bend over to Madrid. Even before that Madrid was being portrayed as the bad guy yet they have done everything right compared to Dortmund. There was another issue if I am not mistaken about TV sponsors or some shit that they were spear heading.
Questional ownership? Wtf? The club is mostly owned by the fans
Rm cheat against Bayern again. Regime. Got glazed
Banger of a video!
Dortmund also is destroying their own club culture. They claim to be progressive and that its a core value that makes them unique. They then signed Felix Nmecha who was not only against these values but they also overpaid on him making the transfer make no sense from a public, business or culture reasons.
Not just Nmecha, they are by far number 1 at buying out theor own league. And Bayern then buys the players Dortmund bought if they are succesful there. Götze, Hummels, Lewandowski…
Your pronounciation of Watzke‘s full name was perfect, really appreciate the effort!!
day 5 of asking Tinashe to make a video of Thiago Motta's Juventus and how weird we are at the moment
“420, nice” legend
You know its bad, when Iconic makes a video about your club...Great work tho, on point!
The long awaited video let's goooo💛🖤💛
Nice shirt😎
The mentality of most German fans is the same. The derby with Schalke matters more than the UCL. Some people would be happy if we were relegated.
Just today Kovac was announced as the new head coach. After he was fired from Wolfsburg, who were very patient with him and should have fired him earlier. Clearly, Watzke and Kehl could have been more ambitious. A mistake, if you ask me. But the German fans say: how can you know it was a mistake? This is a lack of ambition in the fans. This is just one example.
So do the problems start at the top or at the bottom? The fans own the club and it is run the way they want. Just like Barcelona, you can blame whoever is president, but the average Barca fan would have committed the same mistakes. That's why whoever is president was voted by the fans, it's what they want to see.
The fans in Dortmund and the area want to keep the club as theirs. They don't care about how popular the club is in the world. They don't care who watches the games. The same goes for more or less every German club other than Bayern.
Btw Sammer still holds the record for the youngest coach to win the Bundesliga. Naglesman couldn't beat it. He was the sporting director at Bayern when they had their revival. And quit only because of sickness. As a player, Sammer was one of the few defenders to win the Ballon d'Or and was much more technical than people would make you believe.
Dortmund should hire inzaghi to fix their squad they need someone like him
What I wouldn't give to have seen that early 2010s Dortmund core stay together for a few more years...or for Götze to have reached his full potential.
Dortmund, Spurs, Roma and Man U competing for who can get religated first:
Roma is 9 🤡
i just cant undestand how they didnt add significant player additions after getting 100m for jude and making the ucl final
They bought Stuttgarts best defender Anton, one of the most talented German strikers with Baier, the second best Bundesliga striker with Guirassy and Groß from Brighton for a total of 80 mio
The defeat 2 seasons ago was soulcrushing.
Mainz beat them in the last game and they didnt even try. They kinda looked sorry doing so. Just sad. And ever since then, in the Bundesliga at least, it went downhill.
In the CL they sometimes show their potential. Sometimes they are 2:0 up against Real Madrid at Reals stadium. Then they lose 2:5 after the 2nd half...
My heart beats BvB
I understand what happened in the early 2000's we can't not have ambition
I realised this when in the final league match they decided to bench bellingham so that the price remains same.... bvb executive people just focus on how much money they can divide among their known people.
Great video mate, one note tho. You don't roll the R in Borussia. It's a rough R, you say it in your throat, not with your tongue. :)
Nico Kovac confirmed as new headcoach. I have a bad feeling about this.
First of all as a fan I thank Watzke and Zorc that they led the club from close to bankruptcy to the established number two in Germany within like 15 years. That's great work!
Imo the problem is that they are still searching for a second Jürgen Klopp. That's a pretty high bar to jump for any head coach that's coming. That can't work out. If you want to attack the top you simply need an experienced coach and you have to give him some freedom and time to develop a team that fits his play style.
The team is in constant change. There aren't any key players that constantly show good performances. Maybe Schlotterbeck, Kobel and Guirassy. The rest of the team is kinda average. The only reason they performed good were players like Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, Dembele, or Pulisic that really made a difference. Transfers are horrible. Couto, Nmecha and Beier combined for around 85 - 90 mils but Maatsen and Sancho were too expensive to keep? WTF is management thinking? Buying one season wonders instead of players that have already proven to work well in the squad.
Watzke gave an interview before the Mainz game where they bottled the league. He was basically telling the fans not to worry and to be ready to celebrate. Boy was he wrong. Felt very karmic that they lost
1:56 well, we did win gold recently, didn’t we
Honestly even though I'm from Africa and the bundesliga is not as popular I was so happy when Leverkusen broke the monopoly..but I more or less wished to see Marco reus holding the meistershale atleast once man🥲
I live in Dortmund since 25 years and have been a supporter since my father took me to the Westfalenstadion in 2002.
And I am fed up with how Watzke leads the club since at least 8 years.
I always criticised the search for the second Jürgen Klopp and that the club never really acted like a true Number two behind Bayern München. We always acted like we’re still the Broke Borussia Dortmund from 10 years ago and if we were happy with finishing second.
However no one wanted to listen. All my friends and family asked me how I could criticise the man who saved our club and led it back to success. Football in the Ruhrgebiet is very emotional. You can see that with Schalke. And this leads to people getting promoted to jobs which they never would’ve got if they not be close to the club themselves. People here are very nostalgic which leads to problems not being prohibited before they occurre. This is the first time in 20 years that Watzke actually receives broad criticism. In a less emotional club, he would’ve got questioned 10 years ago.
True what u said there..I also chose Dortmund in the bundesliga cause they always seem to be the underdogs 😅
wow, just a few years after supporting BVB i now somewhat know how it feels like to be a Spurs fan (i am also a Chelsea and Atleti fan), even though BVB is a bigger club than Spurs.
How does one person support 3 big clubs I will never understand
@@lucqq3792
there are many people outside who support more than 1 club (local and international club) and their national team.
i don’t think what i am doing is that unique or new.
3 different clubs from 3 different countries.
there are people in England who i know who support Brentford (because they were raised and live there) and Chelsea, even though the 2 are local rivals.
Bro has a favorite team in 3 different leagues 😭
@@rethabilefeni4694 fuck me mate u might as well just be a fan of everyone
I understand supporting Barnsley and a pl team… not that though lol
Can you make one video about calling out Tottenham board too?
We've been awful this season but we'll bounce back someday, hopefully sooner rather than later.
If Dortmund was a serious ambitious Club they should have toppled Bayern Munich by now as Germany's Biggest Club.
That Klopp era ended badly because they failed to back him and be ambitious in the transfer market.
There's something Atletico Madrid did that Dortmund should have done after that 2013 UCL Final. Atletico Madrid kept their stars and recruited more players and within a couple of years they had enough money to build a Magnificent Stadium because more people were watching them meaning more money coming in and now they're a Top Club that can challenge Real Madrid and Barcelona, remember for a short period of time they were also a force in the Champions League.
Dortmund did the hard part, they kept the man behind the success Klopp. The easy part was now backing him like Liverpool did look where Liverpool are now.
BVB is just a feeder club. It’s a shame because id love to support them, but they’re the spurs of Germany.
Who are spurs feeding outside of Kane in the past decade?
We're more like arsenal cause we've won something in the 21 century
@emmanuelbrown-j6ubut Dortmund won the CL in 97
@@sehu1291 yes but that wasn't our last trophy
Tottenham last trophy was the English cup in 07 according transfer market dortmunds was the dfb pokal in 20/21
0:14 *Das ist SEHR SUPER*
Where did you get your shirt from? It looks very cool
some German sources report that Mislintat is about to be fired in order to better promote co-operation at management level
the zoom in on man united was foul
You can only go on the same business model of buying cheap and selling high for so long. You have to get the recruitment right everytime, and once you accumulate a few signings that are not on the same level of quality and potential as it needs to be to sustain the league and cup performances, you end up in a downward spiral like they are in right now. Not keeping key players and not maximizing/capitalizing your commercial value, how do you expect to bridge the gap to Bayern and the rest of the elite teams in the continent?
The whole board needs to leave. The members are either to emotionally attached to the club to see what's going wrong or only care about the financial element that directly effects their pockets. Every managerial appointment bar tuchel has been underwhelming and their transfer business has been awful, not to mention they wasted bellingham and haaland when they could of challenged. If your ceo says it's fine to miss out on the champions league because they're are in the club world cup, he should be sacked immediately.
4:13 is this a snl reference to their ‚thats good‘ ‚thats sad‘ skit?
Dortmund will join Schalke in 2. Bundesliga before Schalke promotes to the Bundesliga
2. Bundesliga is so damn interesting nowadays and the level of play is high. So thats not an impossible outcome..
As I BVB fan, I feel like you're doing Mislintat very dirty. Does he have a high go, yes. Does he have the talent to back that, also yes. Kehl for one has the same ego Mislintat has but has been very questionable at his job, so honestly I find it only fair that Mislintat finds he deserves to have a higher position than Kehl rather than the other way around. Yes these 2 are both nuts, but 1 of them does far more good than bad.
Misbuytat destroyed ajax. Bad coach hire and 120m spend on trash.... all with 5 or 6 year contracts....
Just compare Bayern and Dortmunds club idols.
Müller won everything and is a loudspeaker on the pitch.
Reus was always runners up, injury prone and even lost his status as a captain in his last season.
So Dortmund are the German version of arsenal
1:35 Where did all this United’s revenue go why sell Garnacho to buy players 😭
Paying Glazer debt
@ Bring out the banners lads 😭 and love your stuff bro
Borussia Dortmund is the best finishing school in football
Every time I watch Borussia Dortmund, I get depressions. Stuff hasn't been the same since Klopp left
For me the Bayern dominance in the bundesliga wasn't because Bayern were too good for the league but because their competition was too incompetent, Dormunt always had a chance, they were always ahead of Bayern at some moment of the season, but they always found the way to lose the league against a not that good Bayern
We all love borussia dortmund 😊❤❤❤
Aki Watzke needs to leave the Club Asap
Joke of a front office. Massive club, massive following but put all their focus on signing young talents and selling them off to more ambitious clubs, often Bayern.
another club of mine is following this model, Chelsea.
both my teams, Chelsea and BVB, have no ambitions.
@@rethabilefeni4694 Chelsea won't sell Caicedo, Ferndanez, Palmer etc. tho. Okay maybe Palmer might go at some point, but many of those players are there to stay.
Dortmund boought way more players from Bayern in the last 10 years than Bayern from Dortmund. It's a myth that Bayern buy many Dortmund players. There were just some big names like Lewa and Götze. Dortmund are the biggest Bundesliga transfer farmers. Bought Stuttgarts best Striker and defender this season for example.
@@sehu1291 Yes, they take your Ferraris and give you their Fiats. Don't forget Hummels
“The frogurt is also cursed.”
All i know is pain
Bring in ten Hag
Probably can replicate what he did at Ajax
As a dortmund fan i can say, this is what happens when youre always ok with being second. We’ve got ourselfs a team with a loser mentality because we forgot how to even try. If we don‘t change that we will stay a loser team and i fear that we will end up just like Schalke or Hamburg.
What the hell are you talking about, stuttgart had a club record season last year.
Made a correction on screen. They didn't have a season that's unheard of by Dortmund standards
can u make a kane video after a few bundesliga games
"losing the young talents" welcome to south america brother
Fair enough 😂
The man United stray was uncalled for😂
Dortmund wasnt a big club before the mid 90s but they will find a way to come out of this. Ten Hag is the perfect choice for them he even worked in Germany and know how to work with young players. People tend to hate on Bayern but if you look closely Dortmund is buying more players from direct opponents then Bayern.
Ten Hag needs a good sporting director tho. He isn't good with transfers.
@@lexxihd5843 and khel isn't good
@ Yep, i agree.
Crazy
Its all Bayern fault
Thanks for the summary 😂
@@spdby no it all watzke fault
I think the rest of the Bundesliga just resigns to the fact that they'll never reach Bayern's level because Bayern Munich will take everyone's players....
Dortmund have bought more bundesliga players then Bayern
They don't tho. And even than. Bayern just can't take everyones players. Dortmund just buy badly.
I think they try bro it’s just tough on them financially. Their ownership model is different from the prem. Nowadays any mid table club can keep their best player. ie mbuemo at Brentford is a perfect example. If he was a friedberg player lord knows he would be bought a long time ago
@@tasbhu764 Bro i am German i know the Bundesliga. Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Leverkusen are all able to do better transfers in worse situations. Your best players being bought of is one thing your scouting bad players to replace them is another. I don't expect 1 to 1 replacements for Haaland and Bellingham, but i do expect good reinvestments for that money.
@ yeah but frankfurt stutgart and even leverkeusen are used to losing their best players
Dortmund is a small club with small mentality.
As expected of the german Arsenal
1:49 If you lose Haaland and Bellingham you deserve to be relegated Plain and simple, thats worse then what spurs did to Kane and mourinho.
1:54 ☠
Reminds me of Tottenham
The puns keep coming
We wanna win "The Dortmund Way" is close to Spurs fans saying : we wanna win "The Spurs Way" 😂
but their fans are always yelling about cheap tickets, and how fans built the game ( your typical german bundesliga stans), they forgot to built their club to win, the club basiccaly is just a concert now, actually most of the teams in bundesliga, just concerts with cheap entry and a rough crowd, like the good old days for rock band concert
Bro snuck in old trafford talking about the big boys 7:28
When it comes to money, United is still one of the big boys. When it comes to brains....
@ fair enough
Hello, hope you're well, Subscribe!! this had me crackin' tbh
1:51 😆
I used to love that Club but lately I became a hater. Losers mentality and all they look for is to find young players to sell them to whoever pays the most. It still crazy to me that they allowed Bayern Munich get so much talent from them.