I haven't had the chance to watch this in its entirety but I have to tell you that I agree with you 110% on that kitchen. This is the first island I've seen without the sink. You have to also worry about spray going over onto the other side, I had a stained glass partition built onto the back of my sink just because of that. I need as much counter space & a large fridge as I love to cook & bake. If I could find this same kitchen (with residential fridge) in an RV with also a 1 & 1/2 bath I'd be in heaven. Love!!!!! P.S. I can't wait to watch the rest.
I really appreciated you showing the RV with the slides in. So many showcase videos do not but I find it so helpful when considering RV's for purchase. Keep up the great work. We love your channel!
We just bought one, it is only slightly used but from an older couple that didn't get to use it as much as they would have liked and took extremely good care of it. I am so excited! This review was fantastic. We are hoping to go pick ours up Saturday and I can't wait! It is a huge step up from the one we have now (2016 Keystone Hideout). I think we are going to be so happy!
I prefer the large window over the overhead cupboards but that is my choice. We see the air conditioner noise as white noise and can drown out the outside noise. I have found that having an outside kitchen comes with sacrifices on the inside one. We have frameless windows and you're right about the lack of air flow from outside.
Check out the Sandpiper 383RBLOK that will be our next rig . I have 3 kids and the Boss (Wife) loves the central vacuum, washer/dryer, and the big one is the 2 bathrooms.
One thing I've learned is I can't get exactly everything I want without giving up another option. Best I've found so far is my 2018 sundance 3700rlb. I wanted 2 bathrooms, king bed, outdoor kitchen, bunkroom, loft, auto level and full size fridge with 2 ac units. Washer dryer hookups and lots of storage everywhere.
First of all, CONGRATULATIONS on your 100K subs. We wanted the same Chap IBL but ended up going with the Grand Design 367BHS with the king size bed and are very happy. It does not have the sink less island that you're looking for though. As I'm sure you already know there is no floor plan out there that has EVERY feature that we all want. As a long time subscriber to your channel and watching many of your videos, we know you will somehow find what works best for you and the family. Good luck in your search and we look forward to what you finally end up with. Kim & Dave "Wonderful Weekenders" here on UA-cam.
We have a Grand Design 377 MBS-R and love it. Put 10k miles on it last year on a cross country and felt at home. Has 18 cu. ft. Fridge with full size convection mw, big pantry and plenty of counter space. Mid bunk and loft give a lot of versatility for storage or extra sleeping. Put a 5500W Onan in alsoo
I second the Grand Design 377 mid bunk. Great product. We have been looking at the 373 FB very closely for a few months. Impressed with quality and storage arrangement. The mid bunk area is a nice set-up IN THE 377. Seems that we all have to consider the real life tradeoffs in any RV (BUMMER). Best of luck.
In 2005 we ordered a Cedar Creek 5th wheel one of the options we picked was shock absorbers. The cost was next to nothing. I wouldn't want a 5th wheel that doesn't have the front and rear fiberglass caps. Our new TT has the rear "bike' rack. We haven't gone out yet but I plan on using the bike rack to keep stuff off the ground at the campsite. I may try the generator there if I need to.
@@JasonLee-qj8ts $42,000 exactly not including tax. It did include "set up", doc fees, destination charge, and tariffs. It also included these upgrades: 6 point auto level, JT strong arms, rear reciever hitch, 2nd A/C unit, 10 c.u. fridge, solid surface countertops, and fireplace. I think we got a Great deal!
More cubes more power and if the S.H.T.F. (sit) you will need to eat up all of it before it goes south. more caned / dry goods is the way to go!. You really have a very good set up. Just needs about four more upgrades. It's your money. with respect. Cad taste but chev pay.LOL!
All I can say is Good Luck. After owning one you Really like it’s Very hard to find a replacement. We own a Grand Design Salitude front living 2014. We have been looking to upgrade but can’t find anything that is a upgrade. Even looking at a 2019 model of the same 5th wheel seems to be using cheaper materials. It gives you more storage but at the cost of quality materials.
The Jayco Pinnacle 37MDQS is close to that model in terms of counter space, but not quite. It does have a better bunk room. with a loft. The 2019 Jayco Eagle is closer, but is missing several of the other features you are looking for as well. We (personally) are very heavily looking at the Eagle 355MBQS for our next model. It has a sofa/bunk option with a loft. Both of those options have a king option.
Wow , really nice and Thanks for that information... I'll try to keep an eye out myself for what you looking for... And Hey that new introduction you have is really nice showing your truck and the trailer and the whole 9 yd, that's nice with the new big truck big RV logo. thanks a lot talk to you Soon
For me I also bought a Coachmen, though not a 5th wheel. The Azdel is a nice feature to have. The slam latches are great too. I found the fit and finish and features were nice, no flashy silliness, pure functional and class. We have a 2017 Freedom Express 312BHDS Liberty Edition.
I really like your sofa space now. Its setup well. It looks like a really great 5er. Looking forward to what rigs you consider replacing it with. My wife agrees with you. She would prefer a king bed as well. Our setup has a queen like yours. With two little kiddos that inevitably end up in our bed around midnight it can be tight. I think if i were going to buy one right now i would lean towards the 2018 chaparral 370 fl or the 391qsmb with the king bed option!! Great video btbrv!
We have an 2011 Chaparral 330FBH. Nothing but trouble with it. We have a water leak in the main (only in tow) that 3 different service centers have tried to fix. Yours seems really nice, but with all of the issues we've had there is no way we would buy another Chaparral.
You have to get auto leveling and torsion axle. Have you thought about a 35’ to 38’ Luxe? You can get your kitchen custom designed like you want. It’s about the same price as a grand design with a lot more options. Plus you can get a full firefly wiring system that eliminates a ton of wires.
Grand Design Solitude 377MBS or Solitude 3740BH if you want a larger, rear bunk house setup... Both also have the LCI Solid Step steps which has a larger, 13" wide top step which is nice.
I should have added...... the Solitude 377MBS has an optional King bed, newer Furion cook top, wider microwave, 18cu ft fridge, 6 point level up, 4 tread - solid steps. Everything you want. Also, Grand Design has the best post sales support. For major warranty items you can bypass the dealer and deal direct with Grand Design and they WILL take care of you. They have even made people whole after the warranty has expired. Quite often they will authorize a local mobile tech to complete the work. For anything major (structural, frame), they will come get it from you, haul it back to Indiana, repair and return. Also Emily Stahley formerly of LCI recent moved to Grand Design which also bolsters their customer support. What do I need to do to put you in a 377MBS today !!
Great video yet again!! That is the perfect layout for my family and hope to get one soon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions on the 5th wheel.
Maybe look at the grand design solitude 377mbs-r unfortunately it will have the sink in the island but as long as it’s a grand design product I’m cool with whatever best company in the Rv market as of now! Great warranty as well and customer service which you no goes along way when your out traveling! Can’t wait to see what you choose
We are huge supporters of the Arctic Fox line of RVs. We traded our AF 30U for an AF 27-5L. We did downsize in length but gained in many ways. I ask you look at the new 2019 AF 32-5M. I has a very similar kitchen floor plan as your current coach.
I'm currently in a Grand Design Reflection 337RLS. I love the kitchen. The oven is not like the typical easy-bake ovens shown in your video. You would want to check the Reflection 367 or one of the Solitudes if you have the money for a decent drop frame model.
I remember buying some off-brand tires the salesman told were made by Goodyear but they didn't put their name on it. I found out why about 3 weeks later when the tire blew out on me on a rain slick freeway as I slide across 2 lanes. I was lucky that at the moment there were no other cars on either side of me. After my heart stopped racing, I made a vow then and there that I would never cut corners when it came to tires. That's just my experience, so I'm not trying to speak for anyone else.
Have you considered a toy hauler? I've got a Fuzion 371, perfect convertible guest quarters to dining area to play room with half bath. Morryde equipped. Sailuns standard. Mine came with a king bed (but takes up a lot room), loft bunk and 6 point leveling system. Full size kitchen appliances. I stayed to a dual axle trailer vs triple as I wanted to stay under 40 feet. It's a trade off for the convertible garage space to interior living. Just putting a bug in your ear. ;-)
With all the improvements you have made makes it hard too recover you're money. There as only been one floor plan that had a large kitchen and it was a Keystone Montana 3701LK, we loved it, I want my wife too have a large kitchen for cooking, our current kitchen has very little counter space. But things have change here recently and a new camper doesn't look like it will happen now :-( with all the modifications you have done, and being a Coachman I'd hang on too it for a long time. Don't let all the bells and whistle's of a new unit bite ya.
It is an RV not a stock or real estate. It loses value the second you tow it off the lot. Even without "improvements" They will not add their cost in in value either... they will also lose money. Now if you could claim some notoriety so it had some cachet to it, say Trump had golden shower party in it.... Somebody would probably pay up for it.
Check out the Open Range 376FBH. Its not a mid bunk, its a front bunk, but a very cool set up with decent kitchen counter tops. It has MASSIVE storage, more than any other fifth wheel Ive ever seen.
Also, take note that the 2019 layout is a little different than previous years, the 2019 model has a kitchen table/chairs and a theater seat in the middle room vs having the large party sofa with removable tables in previous years.
The filth wheel of yours looks great I thought of something that could be done to the bike rack that you might like to try, make a flip up rack that bolts or pins to it to where it leans back a lil bit and you could really use it as a clothes line with several lines. I wish there was a way I could draw it for you On the back of my moms we put a tool box that carries a some extra blocks and a jack, waterhose Plus on the sides we built some sections of pipe that we can slide a lil smaller pipe down inside it for the clothes line Anyway I like the island without the sink, I never did like those with the sink Thank you
Montana 3820FK or the Montana RD model both won't have a separate room like a MB but (especially the FK) it's made up for with the storage and bigger living space as well as larger kitchen pulling a bed out is made worth it, I highly recommend the FK
The new 360IBL got rid of those cabinets above the love seat/theater seats. I was about to buy one, then changed my mind because of the lost storage between those cabinets and the lack of storage around the TV area. There is one open slot above the fireplace now and nothing else. I so much prefer the setup that you have. We should have bought the prior model year. Unless Coachmen goes back to the old setup, we'll probably stay away from the Chaparral.
Did you look at the Phoenix? Its made in the same plant as the Chaparral, but come with all the upgrades. They have a painted front cap, 6pt auto level and the storage youre talking about. Ours is a 2018... not unless the 2019 has made changes.
Thanks for the tip, the walk through I found of the 2018 mid year changes also lost that storage above the one couch and around the TV. Looks almost exactly like the Chaparral. :(
Check out the cedar creek silver back 37mbh. We have a cedar creek now and have had it for 7 years and never had any major issues with it. You should check them out.
The Keystone Avalanche 365mb or 366mb might work for your family. Unfortunately with a mid bunk having 2 doors you lose wall space for counter prep space as well as storage. However you might be able to order one with 1 entry door into the bunk room
Just installed Sailun on my 5ver yesterday, like you I can't find any negatives and here in Canada the GY G614 are almost 4 times more expensive then the S637. Good luck in finding a new fifth wheel, I find there's always compromise to accept, can't seem to find the perfect layout and features. Maybe the Luxe LF-42MD.
There are at least two I would suggest you look at: DRV Mobile Suite 40 KSSB4 and the Riverstone 39FK. Riverstone has a toy hauler with the same kitchen.
I really like the layout of this camper but went with a Open Range 367BHS for the outdoor kitchen and bunk room. Have you checked out the Avalanche 385BG? Nice rig and more universal than a mid bunk. Keep up the good work.
Look into the Grand Design Brand. Almost all wide body. You do have a sink in the island but you will gain the larger fridge and some extra counter space.
Big Truck Big RV The Grand Design is what I’ve narrowed my search to. Specifically the Solitude. Although, I’m not looking for a MB. As mentioned earlier, the 377MBS is probably one that you’re looking at. One suggestion would be to put a fold up extension on the kitchen island to increase counter space. Thank you for your videos!
Have you looked at the 2018 Sierra 372LOK? You'd be amazed at how close it is to the one you own. That's what I have. It does have the island sink but most of the other wishes you have, it has as well. We're a family of 6 (4 teen kids) and it fits us nicely. We're on our way to northern Arkansas Friday from College Station, TX. for a week.
Have you looked at a custom build one. I just got a chance to see this video was using my own rv. There's a company call North America RV. They build custom travel trailers and fifth wheelers. There prices are not all that bad I have not seen any, the have floor plans from 27 feet to 54 feet. They might have something you might like or modify for what your looking for. Enjoy watching the drone. Like always great video.
thanks. I've seen their coaches and they are custom, but with limited choices, Also, they use lower end construction techniques and lose their value quicker than even low cost major brands. Thank you though!
Check out big horn traveler 39mb. Has a nice wall of cabinets, not as much counter top, but more by the stove. We loved that the mid bunk has extra windows and doesnt have the little bunk on top, unless you order it.
The granddesign solitude 377mb is close. Sink is in the island but there is still counter space. It has a loft also. Now they have a outside kitchen that slides up in the front storage as a option. I have saw one on a jayco that sits on the back of the camper. The solitude will still need suspension upgrades. The DRV 44 Cumberland and luxe elite mid bunk and luxe gold mid bunk will have the best suspension and frames but they are big heavy and expensive. Neither have a loft or outside kitchen. The rv factory will work with you on some making some things custom.
I agree 100%. The Grand Design 377 is a very nice floorplan. We have considered it as well as the Columbus 37mbb and even the Jayco Eagle midbunk. I like the 2019 Gateway 3900mb as well, but would need to modify the large section of cabinets to be additional counter space.
Not to mention with all of those you will probably have to modify the suspension. Have you checked out the valinos yet? I heard a mid bunk may be coming but that was months ago. I know they can do some custom work. A sales man told me they have put the moryde IS suspension on for customers before. Also are you looking for a brand that comes with 17.5 rims? I know some companies have that as options also.
Check out the Cardinal limited 3780LFLE, it doesn't have all your requests, but as I'm sure you're aware, to get something you have to give up something, I've looked for the perfect 5th wheel and have yet to find one that meets all my requirements. Beyond azdel, full body paint may suit you, as I believe the one we will purchase will be our one and only and I don't want to worry about fading.
I know this is an old video that just came across my feed. I love your channel. Thanks for all your hard work. I know right now you are demoing that beautiful Van Leigh, and the bikes fit inside. But you mentioned the rack on this video with your old Chapperal. I'm a cyclist and I always see people using these bike racks that don't really work. I don't represent Kuat at all. But consider them - www.kuatracks.com/product/nv-addon-2/ The base rack includes two bike holders and options to expand them as needed without having to just buy a whole new rack as you can modify up and down as you need. It also includes a bicycle repair stand as the end piece - because when do you not need that. The support for the bike is in the wheel tracks, not hanging bending the frames. And THEY LOCK each bicycle. We are always concerned with people who make dumb decisions in our travels. Anyway, I love these racks. It might make a good video for you. ;) Anyway just a thought since I saw you describing yours. I see those working better for carrying extra blocky equipment. While I'm here there is a product called VertiYak that is AMAZING. I've seen it but not as familiar. Plan on obtaining. vertiyak.com/
I understand it is not a "mid bunk" but the Cyclone 4005 has a kitchen with tons of counter space, and a "rear bunk" a.k.a. the garage. The 2018 model even has an outside kitchen.
It is hard to recommend any one 5th wheel. We are on our 8th 5ver with a Country Coach Motor Home in betwen, (Stay away from Motorhomes) they are a maintenance nightmares. Since Thor Industries has their fingers in just about all the 5th wheel lines, it's hard to recommend. First off, STAY FAR, FAR Away from Heartland Landmarks and BIG HORNS. Of course you can purchase one of those as long as you are close to a Walmart or Hardware Store. The Heartland was our first 5er and we spent more time fixing the damned thing than traveling. Of course Heartland is owned by Thor. Then there is the DRV's. We have had 2 of them, both were good 5ers, but have become EXTREMELY expensive now and they are also owned by THOR! We now have a 2016 Redwood and it has been somewhat of a nightmare. We have had our Dining Room Slide that was never installed correctly. 3 times back and forth to the dealer. Finally, took the unit to Lippert in Indiana and they adjusted and lubed the slide correctly and made an access point for me to lube the hydraulic Shafts underneath the Belly Pan. We have found that the Slide Toppers are a negative too. After having the Dining Room Slide fixed, I took off the Slide Topper on that side of the RV and now the slide operates flawlessly and quietly. I am in the process of going to Elkhart this week to have the Morryde IS system with Disc Brakes installed. Looking forward to the new system. Now, we are mostly happy with the REDWOOD and will probably be our last RV. I am a Morryde Nut and have the Morryde Pin Box and the Step Above and now the IS System. The REDWOOD came with a GVWR of 16500, the new ones have been upped to 17900. Standard wheels were 16inch and I have upgraded to 17.5 Sailun Tires and they are wonderful. We also have the Lippert Level Up system, standard on REDWOOD. Now, our MSRP was $130,000, we ordered the unit from the factory, so it wasn't a Unit on the Dealer Lot. We closed the deal for $84000. I would recommend the REDWOOD, even with the problems we have had. We have over 20,000 miles on it so far and it is really coming into it's own. If you have any questions, please Email me. One final thought. If you buy from a dealer or order from the factory, insure they put in a re-enforced water line to your Fridge, if you have Ice and Water in the Fridge. Another Headache will be resolved by replacing the CHEAP CHINESE CRAP WATER LINE! Thanks, Jeff
I just came home today from a RV resort, and saw someone towing a 36 foot PUMA with 3 slides, with a Ford F-150 I was wondering your thoughts because I did not think it was a very safe thing to do.
pin weight alone on 295BHSS which is 35' long is 1350 lbs unloaded. plus the weight of a hitch, gear in the bed of the truck.... probably already over RAWR with nothing in the trailer. Sure it can tow it, stopping it? Gonna break something?... fer sure! Safe? It's not... straight up.
Great video. I agreed with almost everything you said. Thanks for the tour. I wish you didn't have the sink cover on though because it was hard to visualize the usage and is it a 2 bowl or a single large bowl?
I haven't had the chance to watch this in its entirety but I have to tell you that I agree with you 110% on that kitchen. This is the first island I've seen without the sink. You have to also worry about spray going over onto the other side, I had a stained glass partition built onto the back of my sink just because of that. I need as much counter space & a large fridge as I love to cook & bake. If I could find this same kitchen (with residential fridge) in an RV with also a 1 & 1/2 bath I'd be in heaven. Love!!!!! P.S. I can't wait to watch the rest.
I really appreciated you showing the RV with the slides in. So many showcase videos do not but I find it so helpful when considering RV's for purchase. Keep up the great work. We love your channel!
We just bought one, it is only slightly used but from an older couple that didn't get to use it as much as they would have liked and took extremely good care of it. I am so excited! This review was fantastic. We are hoping to go pick ours up Saturday and I can't wait! It is a huge step up from the one we have now (2016 Keystone Hideout). I think we are going to be so happy!
Anything 5th wheel in the title and from BTBRV = insta watch and Like!
I prefer the large window over the overhead cupboards but that is my choice. We see the air conditioner noise as white noise and can drown out the outside noise. I have found that having an outside kitchen comes with sacrifices on the inside one. We have frameless windows and you're right about the lack of air flow from outside.
Check out the Sandpiper 383RBLOK that will be our next rig . I have 3 kids and the Boss (Wife) loves the central vacuum, washer/dryer, and the big one is the 2 bathrooms.
Tackleberry 59 Great choice! One of my favourite!
I love this channel I literally watch it daily but I can't believe I subscribed yet I'm even baffled
One thing I've learned is I can't get exactly everything I want without giving up another option. Best I've found so far is my 2018 sundance 3700rlb. I wanted 2 bathrooms, king bed, outdoor kitchen, bunkroom, loft, auto level and full size fridge with 2 ac units. Washer dryer hookups and lots of storage everywhere.
First of all, CONGRATULATIONS on your 100K subs. We wanted the same Chap IBL but ended up going with the Grand Design 367BHS with the king size bed and are very happy. It does not have the sink less island that you're looking for though. As I'm sure you already know there is no floor plan out there that has EVERY feature that we all want. As a long time subscriber to your channel and watching many of your videos, we know you will somehow find what works best for you and the family. Good luck in your search and we look forward to what you finally end up with.
Kim & Dave
"Wonderful Weekenders" here on UA-cam.
Great summary of features, and like all of your videos, LOTS of great information.
These things are so big holy moly, better than my house
We have a Grand Design 377 MBS-R and love it. Put 10k miles on it last year on a cross country and felt at home. Has 18 cu. ft. Fridge with full size convection mw, big pantry and plenty of counter space.
Mid bunk and loft give a lot of versatility for storage or extra sleeping. Put a 5500W Onan in alsoo
I second the Grand Design 377 mid bunk. Great product. We have been looking at the 373 FB very closely for a few months. Impressed with quality and storage arrangement. The mid bunk area is a nice set-up IN THE 377. Seems that we all have to consider the real life tradeoffs in any RV (BUMMER). Best of luck.
I’m a big fan if Grand Design. The Reflection 367 BHS is a mid bunk. We are seriously looking at this brand for our next camper.
In 2005 we ordered a Cedar Creek 5th wheel one of the options we picked was shock absorbers. The cost was next to nothing. I wouldn't want a 5th wheel that doesn't have the front and rear fiberglass caps. Our new TT has the rear "bike' rack. We haven't gone out yet but I plan on using the bike rack to keep stuff off the ground at the campsite. I may try the generator there if I need to.
Just ordered our 2020 360IBL and SUPER excited!! Thanks for all your share!!!
Awesome! Congrats
What did you pay for it?
@@JasonLee-qj8ts $42,000 exactly not including tax. It did include "set up", doc fees, destination charge, and tariffs.
It also included these upgrades: 6 point auto level, JT strong arms, rear reciever hitch, 2nd A/C unit, 10 c.u. fridge, solid surface countertops, and fireplace.
I think we got a Great deal!
More cubes more power and if the S.H.T.F. (sit) you will need to eat up all of it before it goes south. more caned / dry goods is the way to go!. You really have a very good set up. Just needs about four more upgrades. It's your money. with respect. Cad taste but chev pay.LOL!
All I can say is Good Luck. After owning one you Really like it’s Very hard to find a replacement. We own a Grand Design Salitude front living 2014. We have been looking to upgrade but can’t find anything that is a upgrade. Even looking at a 2019 model of the same 5th wheel seems to be using cheaper materials. It gives you more storage but at the cost of quality materials.
The Jayco Pinnacle 37MDQS is close to that model in terms of counter space, but not quite. It does have a better bunk room. with a loft.
The 2019 Jayco Eagle is closer, but is missing several of the other features you are looking for as well. We (personally) are very heavily looking at the Eagle 355MBQS for our next model. It has a sofa/bunk option with a loft.
Both of those options have a king option.
You might want to look at the Grand Design 377MBS. It checks quite a few of your boxes, plus has HUGE storage.
Wow , really nice and Thanks for that information... I'll try to keep an eye out myself for what you looking for... And Hey that new introduction you have is really nice showing your truck and the trailer and the whole 9 yd, that's nice with the new big truck big RV logo. thanks a lot talk to you Soon
Like I said before.. check out the jayco north point. It had the bunkhouse and the loft. It has a awesome kitchen layout.
You have a very nice RV
Congrats on the 100k! Well deserved!!
We love our rvlock so easy to lock and unlock when you come and go.
For me I also bought a Coachmen, though not a 5th wheel. The Azdel is a nice feature to have. The slam latches are great too. I found the fit and finish and features were nice, no flashy silliness, pure functional and class. We have a 2017 Freedom Express 312BHDS Liberty Edition.
Agreed! Still many of the issues you might have with a $100,000 unit, but overall a great build quality loaded with practical features
I really like your sofa space now. Its setup well. It looks like a really great 5er. Looking forward to what rigs you consider replacing it with. My wife agrees with you. She would prefer a king bed as well. Our setup has a queen like yours. With two little kiddos that inevitably end up in our bed around midnight it can be tight. I think if i were going to buy one right now i would lean towards the 2018 chaparral 370 fl or the 391qsmb with the king bed option!!
Great video btbrv!
We have an 2011 Chaparral 330FBH. Nothing but trouble with it. We have a water leak in the main (only in tow) that 3 different service centers have tried to fix. Yours seems really nice, but with all of the issues we've had there is no way we would buy another Chaparral.
Haven’t even watched the video and I know it will be good!
You have to get auto leveling and torsion axle.
Have you thought about a 35’ to 38’ Luxe?
You can get your kitchen custom designed like you want. It’s about the same price as a grand design with a lot more options. Plus you can get a full firefly wiring system that eliminates a ton of wires.
I say Highland Ridge/Open Range. Grand design a close second. SEE YA OUT THERE!!!!!
Grand Design Solitude 377MBS or Solitude 3740BH if you want a larger, rear bunk house setup... Both also have the LCI Solid Step steps which has a larger, 13" wide top step which is nice.
Eric91Z: not a huge rear bunk fan.
I don’t like them either. I believe they are a poor utilization of space of you only need to bunk 1 or 2 people
That floorplan generally makes the living room less desirable (to us)
The Jayco Eagle and Open Range Mid Bunks are REALLY impressive and both offer whisper quiet AC
I should have added...... the Solitude 377MBS has an optional King bed, newer Furion cook top, wider microwave, 18cu ft fridge, 6 point level up, 4 tread - solid steps. Everything you want. Also, Grand Design has the best post sales support. For major warranty items you can bypass the dealer and deal direct with Grand Design and they WILL take care of you. They have even made people whole after the warranty has expired. Quite often they will authorize a local mobile tech to complete the work. For anything major (structural, frame), they will come get it from you, haul it back to Indiana, repair and return. Also Emily Stahley formerly of LCI recent moved to Grand Design which also bolsters their customer support. What do I need to do to put you in a 377MBS today !!
Congratulations on 100k! Great idea on the mid bunk. Sounds like your best bet is to design your own 5iver!
Great video yet again!! That is the perfect layout for my family and hope to get one soon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions on the 5th wheel.
Maybe look at the grand design solitude 377mbs-r unfortunately it will have the sink in the island but as long as it’s a grand design product I’m cool with whatever best company in the Rv market as of now! Great warranty as well and customer service which you no goes along way when your out traveling! Can’t wait to see what you choose
GD has cutting boards designed to cover the sink when not in use.
We are huge supporters of the Arctic Fox line of RVs. We traded our AF 30U for an AF 27-5L. We did downsize in length but gained in many ways. I ask you look at the new 2019 AF 32-5M. I has a very similar kitchen floor plan as your current coach.
Happy hunting! Nice video.
I'm currently in a Grand Design Reflection 337RLS. I love the kitchen. The oven is not like the typical easy-bake ovens shown in your video. You would want to check the Reflection 367 or one of the Solitudes if you have the money for a decent drop frame model.
I remember buying some off-brand tires the salesman told were made by Goodyear but they didn't put their name on it. I found out why about 3 weeks later when the tire blew out on me on a rain slick freeway as I slide across 2 lanes. I was lucky that at the moment there were no other cars on either side of me.
After my heart stopped racing, I made a vow then and there that I would never cut corners when it came to tires. That's just my experience, so I'm not trying to speak for anyone else.
Have you considered a toy hauler? I've got a Fuzion 371, perfect convertible guest quarters to dining area to play room with half bath. Morryde equipped. Sailuns standard.
Mine came with a king bed (but takes up a lot room), loft bunk and 6 point leveling system.
Full size kitchen appliances.
I stayed to a dual axle trailer vs triple as I wanted to stay under 40 feet.
It's a trade off for the convertible garage space to interior living.
Just putting a bug in your ear. ;-)
With all the improvements you have made makes it hard too recover you're money. There as only been one floor plan that had a large kitchen and it was a Keystone Montana 3701LK, we loved it, I want my wife too have a large kitchen for cooking, our current kitchen has very little counter space. But things have change here recently and a new camper doesn't look like it will happen now :-( with all the modifications you have done, and being a Coachman I'd hang on too it for a long time. Don't let all the bells and whistle's of a new unit bite ya.
It is an RV not a stock or real estate. It loses value the second you tow it off the lot. Even without "improvements" They will not add their cost in in value either... they will also lose money. Now if you could claim some notoriety so it had some cachet to it, say Trump had golden shower party in it.... Somebody would probably pay up for it.
Perfect layout aft, less mini garage underneath
Wish you luck in your hunt for your perfect home on wheels.
Check out the Open Range 376FBH. Its not a mid bunk, its a front bunk, but a very cool set up with decent kitchen counter tops. It has MASSIVE storage, more than any other fifth wheel Ive ever seen.
Also, take note that the 2019 layout is a little different than previous years, the 2019 model has a kitchen table/chairs and a theater seat in the middle room vs having the large party sofa with removable tables in previous years.
Using Highland Rv’s because you should it off a later video, a floor plan that you should look at is the SilverStar SF371MBH.
Hell yeah! 100K subscribers! Congrats!
The filth wheel of yours looks great I thought of something that could be done to the bike rack that you might like to try, make a flip up rack that bolts or pins to it to where it leans back a lil bit and you could really use it as a clothes line with several lines. I wish there was a way I could draw it for you On the back of my moms we put a tool box that carries a some extra blocks and a jack, waterhose Plus on the sides we built some sections of pipe that we can slide a lil smaller pipe down inside it for the clothes line Anyway I like the island without the sink, I never did like those with the sink Thank you
I think I'm envisioning what you're saying. Might give it a shot. Thanks for the great suggestion my friend.
Montana 3820FK or the Montana RD model both won't have a separate room like a MB but (especially the FK) it's made up for with the storage and bigger living space as well as larger kitchen pulling a bed out is made worth it, I highly recommend the FK
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Very nice RV.
Congrats!
Yes sir! Thanks again!
I like counter space also. Although it's not a mid bunk, check out a sandpiper 38fkok. Massive counter space
The new 360IBL got rid of those cabinets above the love seat/theater seats. I was about to buy one, then changed my mind because of the lost storage between those cabinets and the lack of storage around the TV area. There is one open slot above the fireplace now and nothing else. I so much prefer the setup that you have. We should have bought the prior model year. Unless Coachmen goes back to the old setup, we'll probably stay away from the Chaparral.
or just buy mine when Im ready to sell! Lol
Lol, it's a popular model. I know you'll have no trouble selling it.
Did you look at the Phoenix? Its made in the same plant as the Chaparral, but come with all the upgrades. They have a painted front cap, 6pt auto level and the storage youre talking about. Ours is a 2018... not unless the 2019 has made changes.
Thanks for the tip, the walk through I found of the 2018 mid year changes also lost that storage above the one couch and around the TV. Looks almost exactly like the Chaparral. :(
Check out the cedar creek silver back 37mbh. We have a cedar creek now and have had it for 7 years and never had any major issues with it. You should check them out.
we've looked at them. Waiting to see if they introduce a drop frame in the silverback line.
congrants on 100k
100k subs. Awesome!!!!
Never see anything in Jaycos higher end series. Take a look at the north point up.
The Keystone Avalanche 365mb or 366mb might work for your family. Unfortunately with a mid bunk having 2 doors you lose wall space for counter prep space as well as storage. However you might be able to order one with 1 entry door into the bunk room
Just installed Sailun on my 5ver yesterday, like you I can't find any negatives and here in Canada the GY G614 are almost 4 times more expensive then the S637. Good luck in finding a new fifth wheel, I find there's always compromise to accept, can't seem to find the perfect layout and features. Maybe the Luxe LF-42MD.
There are at least two I would suggest you look at: DRV Mobile Suite 40 KSSB4 and the Riverstone 39FK. Riverstone has a toy hauler with the same kitchen.
I really like the layout of this camper but went with a Open Range 367BHS for the outdoor kitchen and bunk room. Have you checked out the Avalanche 385BG? Nice rig and more universal than a mid bunk. Keep up the good work.
Maybe you could look in to the cardinals or alpines. We have a cardinal 3850rl and it is really nice. Also they are pretty with the full body paint
Look at Grand Design....I have a 374TH...love it so far
Dutchman Voltage 4205. I love the floor plan. A bunkhouse AND a touhauler?? That's right!
I recommend Grand Design. For their after sales service if nothing else. They have mid-bunk models.
www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2019/fifth-wheel/solitude/floorplans/377mbs-377mbs-r
Look into the Grand Design Brand. Almost all wide body. You do have a sink in the island but you will gain the larger fridge and some extra counter space.
The Solitude 377mb is a great floorplan and one we are considering.
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The Grand Design is what I’ve narrowed my search to. Specifically the Solitude. Although, I’m not looking for a MB. As mentioned earlier, the 377MBS is probably one that you’re looking at. One suggestion would be to put a fold up extension on the kitchen island to increase counter space. Thank you for your videos!
What about the 3740BH S class? It has the bigger bunk house area. I think you might even be able to get a king size bed.
Does GD offer FB paint? No mention of it on their Website.
Have you looked at the 2018 Sierra 372LOK? You'd be amazed at how close it is to the one you own. That's what I have. It does have the island sink but most of the other wishes you have, it has as well. We're a family of 6 (4 teen kids) and it fits us nicely. We're on our way to northern Arkansas Friday from College Station, TX. for a week.
Gratz on 100K
Have you looked at a custom build one. I just got a chance to see this video was using my own rv. There's a company call North America RV. They build custom travel trailers and fifth wheelers. There prices are not all that bad I have not seen any, the have floor plans from 27 feet to 54 feet. They might have something you might like or modify for what your looking for. Enjoy watching the drone. Like always great video.
thanks. I've seen their coaches and they are custom, but with limited choices, Also, they use lower end construction techniques and lose their value quicker than even low cost major brands. Thank you though!
Big Truck Big RV thanks for your input I saw them pop up. I have never seen there trailers I am glad you gave me some insight thanks very much.
Great video and detailed descriptions. By the way do you have a link to your air conditioning baffle? Great idea I'd like to do the same.
I vote for a side patio, I wish I had one. I might even try to retro fit one.
wow u have a dilemma now sense you got such a sweet fifth wheel now, u sold me on buying one like yours!
Open Range has a couple floor plans with a similar sink/counter space set up, but I haven't seen that on any of their bunkhouse models.
Congrats on 100k
I live in a Coachman 215rbk. I like frameless because I can open all my windows in a rain storm.
Hope yall are safe. Saw severe flooding ib Corpus Christi on the news.
Check out big horn traveler 39mb. Has a nice wall of cabinets, not as much counter top, but more by the stove. We loved that the mid bunk has extra windows and doesnt have the little bunk on top, unless you order it.
Congrats on 100k!
thank you!
I recommend you to check out the 2017 Bay View 375RLBH. It has everything you want I believe.
Hi, I love the reconfiguration of the children's room. Could you tell me how you managed to remove the doubles
Double bunk beds
Looking at a 2019 Chaparral 370FL MID right now, considering pulling the trigger
You need a pilot less oven like a home micro both up gradeable. you just all most have set up just the way to like it.
The granddesign solitude 377mb is close. Sink is in the island but there is still counter space. It has a loft also. Now they have a outside kitchen that slides up in the front storage as a option. I have saw one on a jayco that sits on the back of the camper. The solitude will still need suspension upgrades. The DRV 44 Cumberland and luxe elite mid bunk and luxe gold mid bunk will have the best suspension and frames but they are big heavy and expensive. Neither have a loft or outside kitchen. The rv factory will work with you on some making some things custom.
I agree 100%. The Grand Design 377 is a very nice floorplan. We have considered it as well as the Columbus 37mbb and even the Jayco Eagle midbunk. I like the 2019 Gateway 3900mb as well, but would need to modify the large section of cabinets to be additional counter space.
Not to mention with all of those you will probably have to modify the suspension. Have you checked out the valinos yet? I heard a mid bunk may be coming but that was months ago. I know they can do some custom work. A sales man told me they have put the moryde IS suspension on for customers before. Also are you looking for a brand that comes with 17.5 rims? I know some companies have that as options also.
I would suggest you take a look at the grand design solitude 377mb fifth wheel. I think it comes pretty close to the layout you are looking for.
Should I be concerned about a 12 volt refrigerator in the 2021 Coachman Chaparral 360IBL with a 12 volt refrigerator?
Check out the Cardinal limited 3780LFLE, it doesn't have all your requests, but as I'm sure you're aware, to get something you have to give up something, I've looked for the perfect 5th wheel and have yet to find one that meets all my requirements. Beyond azdel, full body paint may suit you, as I believe the one we will purchase will be our one and only and I don't want to worry about fading.
You might like the grand design solitude 377mbs/377mbs-r. I personally have been looking the solitude 374th/374th-r and 375res/375res-r
Have you looked at the Coachmen 392MBL? It has a loft, but kitchen is most likely too small for what you want.
I know this is an old video that just came across my feed. I love your channel. Thanks for all your hard work. I know right now you are demoing that beautiful Van Leigh, and the bikes fit inside. But you mentioned the rack on this video with your old Chapperal. I'm a cyclist and I always see people using these bike racks that don't really work. I don't represent Kuat at all. But consider them - www.kuatracks.com/product/nv-addon-2/ The base rack includes two bike holders and options to expand them as needed without having to just buy a whole new rack as you can modify up and down as you need. It also includes a bicycle repair stand as the end piece - because when do you not need that. The support for the bike is in the wheel tracks, not hanging bending the frames. And THEY LOCK each bicycle. We are always concerned with people who make dumb decisions in our travels. Anyway, I love these racks. It might make a good video for you. ;) Anyway just a thought since I saw you describing yours. I see those working better for carrying extra blocky equipment. While I'm here there is a product called VertiYak that is AMAZING. I've seen it but not as familiar. Plan on obtaining. vertiyak.com/
I'm looking at travel trailers. Really like the Jayco whitehawk 29re pr 29fls ton of storage the kitchen on the 29re lots of counter area
I understand it is not a "mid bunk" but the Cyclone 4005 has a kitchen with tons of counter space, and a "rear bunk" a.k.a. the garage. The 2018 model even has an outside kitchen.
Looking to upgrade mine as well. Now the debate is another fifth wheel or class a with a Jeep JL toad
It is hard to recommend any one 5th wheel. We are on our 8th 5ver with a Country Coach Motor Home in betwen, (Stay away from Motorhomes) they are a maintenance nightmares. Since Thor Industries has their fingers in just about all the 5th wheel lines, it's hard to recommend.
First off, STAY FAR, FAR Away from Heartland Landmarks and BIG HORNS. Of course you can purchase one of those as long as you are close to a Walmart or Hardware Store. The Heartland was our first 5er and we spent more time fixing the damned thing than traveling. Of course Heartland is owned by Thor.
Then there is the DRV's. We have had 2 of them, both were good 5ers, but have become EXTREMELY expensive now and they are also owned by THOR!
We now have a 2016 Redwood and it has been somewhat of a nightmare. We have had our Dining Room Slide that was never installed correctly. 3 times back and forth to the dealer. Finally, took the unit to Lippert in Indiana and they adjusted and lubed the slide correctly and made an access point for me to lube the hydraulic Shafts underneath the Belly Pan. We have found that the Slide Toppers are a negative too. After having the Dining Room Slide fixed, I took off the Slide Topper on that side of the RV and now the slide operates flawlessly and quietly.
I am in the process of going to Elkhart this week to have the Morryde IS system with Disc Brakes installed. Looking forward to the new system.
Now, we are mostly happy with the REDWOOD and will probably be our last RV. I am a Morryde Nut and have the Morryde Pin Box and the Step Above and now the IS System. The REDWOOD came with a GVWR of 16500, the new ones have been upped to 17900. Standard wheels were 16inch and I have upgraded to 17.5 Sailun Tires and they are wonderful. We also have the Lippert Level Up system, standard on REDWOOD.
Now, our MSRP was $130,000, we ordered the unit from the factory, so it wasn't a Unit on the Dealer Lot. We closed the deal for $84000.
I would recommend the REDWOOD, even with the problems we have had. We have over 20,000 miles on it so far and it is really coming into it's own.
If you have any questions, please Email me.
One final thought. If you buy from a dealer or order from the factory, insure they put in a re-enforced water line to your Fridge, if you have Ice and Water in the Fridge. Another Headache will be resolved by replacing the CHEAP CHINESE CRAP WATER LINE!
Thanks,
Jeff
Congrats "100K!"
I have the same stove in my Forest River Wildcat.
Check out Vanleigh. Made by the Tiffen family. Love mine. Full timer.
they are nice but no midbunk options
Could you please do a video on how to maintenance your slide outs
Please review the LX570 when u get a chance :)
I plan on it. Thanks!
I just came home today from a RV resort, and saw someone towing a 36 foot PUMA with 3 slides, with a Ford F-150 I was wondering your thoughts because I did not think it was a very safe thing to do.
pin weight alone on 295BHSS which is 35' long is 1350 lbs unloaded. plus the weight of a hitch, gear in the bed of the truck.... probably already over RAWR with nothing in the trailer. Sure it can tow it, stopping it? Gonna break something?... fer sure! Safe? It's not... straight up.
How loud is the AC? Would like a review of this style AC vs a Whisper quiet. Great video by the way
Great video. I agreed with almost everything you said. Thanks for the tour. I wish you didn't have the sink cover on though because it was hard to visualize the usage and is it a 2 bowl or a single large bowl?
Waiting to see your thoughts on the goosebox. I've been losing air from the pressure release valve from small bumps.