Fun fact: Math Metal is an actual thing, but it's not what you think. "Math Metal" is essentially the process of using equations and ratios in coordination with music theory in order to write riffs and rhythms. It's extra as fuck, but it slaps nonetheless.
Yeah same for me because we used casio and don't sell ti in Australia and I can't remember them having a 2.5mm jack although they did have some i/o port Edit: just quickly looked into it and Casio seem to have the 2.5mm port and promote it as a feature for external data logging
Ah, the TI-83+, my first game console! I actually talked my parents into ordering the long link-cord (like 6ft?) so I could play a few multiplayer games with someone in another seat or on the bus...that was so
@@TheLastMillennial Unfortunately, it was just TI-BASIC. Even less, there wasn't really any terrain to navigate. Still, I think I did make a few apps like one where you could send messages back and forth. All of this was in middle school, which explains why it was half-finished.
@@TheV360 why the hell you got them advanced calculators in middle school? all we had were those little cheap plastic toy ones that came with a magazine that could only do +-*/
Used a Ti83 back in Highschool and College, 1997-2005. I hooked it up to my computer many times and downloaded and uploaded many programs. I never knew 2 calculators could be hooked together with the IO port. 20 years later and I'm still learning, thank you!
Remember that Gameboy recompiler that turns any Gameboy game into a TI program? Add TI Link Cable support to that. No idea how difficult that would be, emulating the GB link protocol might have some serious overhead, but it'd be cool to see
Funny thing about the keyboard, TI actually made one for their calculators! I got one to go with my TI-89 titanium a while back, and it came with a cool sliding case with a kickstand inside, so you could prop it up while typing. The weirdest part about it was that it lacked a number pad. I thought that was a strange thing to omit in a calculator. But it works great for apps like NoteFolio.
My thing was making a set of equations that would take the longest to graph. I would literally let it sit for most of a class period doing nonsense trig and logarithmic operations to see if I could get it past an hour. I forget what record I set for that as it's been 5 years, but I still remember doing that fondly.
@@SyphistPrime I remember making one that spiraled outwards forever. The calculator would eventually just stop, probably because it was out of memory, but I could get it to run for a good half hour.
These calculators are a lot more relatable than I thought. Their 'exchanging data' is a lot like calls with me, awkward as we speak over each other, not understanding each other and just silence when we shut up after speaking over each other. I feel for these calcs
That analogy may be closer than you realise: you see, all the TI-8x models except the 89 have a zilog Z80-compatible cpu; the 89 and the voyage both have a motorola 68000 cpu
@@fadrium1464 If you look at this bit here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC#Main_ENIAC_parts you'll see that ENIAC's architecture is very different from the computers we know today, i therefore think a direct comparison will be difficult; i certainly don't have the knowledge to do so.
Could you actually write an OS that supports MS basic like an 8-bit micro for them? That would actually be super cool having a pocket sized 8-bit micro.
the TI-59, TI-58, and TI-58C had an optional thermal printer called the PC100C in late 70's. The 58C and 59 were basically full size computers with programmable functions and the 59 had a magnetic card reader. There were other things made to make it more like a desktop micro computer like a tv out box called video 59 and devices to switch between multiple ROM cartridges.
Tandy also had a thermal printer clear back with their PC-1 Pocket Computer ( I am sure it was made by Sharp, but not sure if any of the Sharp models were sold outside of Japan at the time) Unfortunately for me, I couldn't come up with the funds to buy one, I only had the cassette adapter for mine.
Earlier Sonys had jack-to-9-pin serial... you know, before USB was a thing. The newer USB-to-jack variants I guess just works as a USB-to-serial interface.
As an electrician, we don’t consider the ground as a “wire” as the ground isn’t used. your I/O cable is a two conductor. The ground is a given. So no, it’s just keeping the job on three wires, it’s two.
@@destiny_02 Yes. It's part of the lesson plan. They're used to confirm your work. And also help to free up time on tests as calculators are everywhere so it makes sense to allow them to be used in school.
In most of the planet the Casio scientific calculators are the standard so.. never understood why they even enforce in universities to not use programmable ones
@MaggieOnline Obviously. Their VPAM lineup is truly remarkable. Not only in South America but also in other countries, Casio is a famous brand only because of their Quality within Budget. It may not have a Fancy headphone jack like other SO CALLED calculator manufacturers, at least, Casio is very much efficient.
I haven't had a new calculator since the late-1980s and these calculator videos of yours are blowing my mind. I see, now, why, when my friend's daughter wanted a calculator for college, she laughed when I said "Here... you can have my Casio fx-7000G"
@@EMEKC Yeah Casio's are cheaper, easier to use, more powerful, faster, and have more features, but because TI sponsors T³ (an educational technology advocate group), T³ just "recommends" TI's. LGR made a great vid on this
Still remember the first day of 7th grade when some kid came into my class from a year under me with a TI loaded up with SNES games on it, I've never felt more in awe of a person than that moment in my life lol
I’ve never seen a calculator with a headphone jack Edit: I don’t remember making this comment Edit 2: I think the people replying to this comment may have dementia
I think i have discovered an amazing idea. If you are having an exam and it allows you to use those calculators, then you can connect 2 of them (1 is at home and 1 next to you). you can make the aux cable send the info to a small database where the home calculator picks the info up ands sends info back. If you don’t know the formulas then the people at home can do them for you.
Wow, I used to lurk on Cemetech back in middle school when I wanted to learn how to program my TI, and now I'm in college. Nice to see the website is still up after all this time, and awesome to still see Kerm posting on there after all these years.
Yes, I did that too. My TI-84+SE was probably among the most decked-out in the entire school. I could play 8-bit MIDI songs with MobileTunes and real music with RealSnd. With USB Tools I connected a USB keyboard or mouse through an OTG cable to the calc's mini-USB port. With MSD8X I could even read text files on a flash drive connected to the port! Omnicalc, Doors CS, MathPrint, A+ Calc (for calculus), spreadsheet, 3D graphing (faster than TI-89), periodic table, zoomable world map, chat, TELNET, Gossamer, Timerize, starfield screensaver, the list goes on... Even an experimental TV receiver! (although I don't think it worked) I documented exactly how it was configured because occasionally it would become unstable and things would have to be reset and reinstalled after battery changes. Before smartphones that was the hottest thing for geeks to carry around. Gotta have your wallet, keys, and TI-84. One of my classmates even took apart his TI and added a tiny speaker inside to play music on.
@@Seawolf.Gaming yes but no what? i did not really ask any yes/no question well, i know what I/O stands for, im not sure how the definition helps your case solve.. what reason? your comment is very .. random, could you try clarifying what you meant
EnderCrypt He’s saying you’re right and wrong. No, it’s not intended to be a headphone jack, but technically Yes, it’s the same as a headphone jack. He just said it in a short and sweet way, that’s all.
I remember using my palm pilot in high school to mess with the TV carts. I used the IR transceiver to learn the functions from the remotes so I could mute, change channels, fast forward or turn off the TV/VCR. I had too much fun with that!
Shah Amin Kamal Apple isn’t the only one. Phones without a headphone jack. Google Pixel 3 and 3 XL. Motorola Moto Z3 and Z3 Play. OnePlus 6T. Sony Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 Compact. HTC U12 Plus. Huawei Mate 20 Pro.
@Grandmaster yeah, but nobody cares about the Notes like they do the Galaxy phones, which are their main line...and those still have headphone jacks, unlike iphones.
I do have a TI 84 with an added voice module, never could try that jack though, because I don’t have the necessary adapters to plug in the earphone that way.
i loved my TI calculators and Casio graphing calcs. I had some REALLY wild models too (one of the high-end TI models had a full qwerty keyboard, large screen, and could map 3d and 4d functions.), but my favorite is the casio color models that showed up from the end of the 90's through the early 00's. These things were extremely powerful devices, had color, and were much more affordable for the functionality you got. They also used a similar Basic based programming language as the TI calcs, and it was pretty simple to port code from one device to another. Growing up, we re-released several modded versions of several games, and even made a few (usually small puzzle games, strange ports of pong that had missiles involved, and I wrote a scrolling vector base skateboarding game at one point) However, ALL of these programs would work FAR better on the Casio, and it was possible to even import (simple) sprites into the code using GET and PUT statements on data matrices that held pixel-color-data (I think it was like number 0 to 3 for the R, G, and B channels, or 2-bit-per-color channel... but you had only 4 colors that could be defined at the same time, it was ARCHAIC to say the least.) or just choose from a pre-set palette of 16 colors... which for a calculator was ASTOUNDING. Just keep it under 48k :D The best I could do with the TI's was line and circle drawing, and pset/point 'sprite-like' operations, but it was closer to 'vector like operations'... and DAMN slow on the refresh. Most of the games that came out on the TI were, ostensibly, text based, puzzle games, or EXTREMELY simple stick-figure graphics for RPG's and if you were REALLY motivated (and had a math teacher with the link cables that let you do what you wanted because they couldn't teach you anything new anyway... that's what I get for learning calc in 3rd grade >.
Because something something airbuds or sum and they don't want to use other brand of earphones/headphones. Basically privacy of audio behind a paywall.
@@fathin7841 Yeah, I mean, can you imagine not paying over a hundred US dollars on a calculator in 2019, when you could pay the same amount for a cheap smartphone with more processing power then the supercomputers that were in existence 30 years ago?
im german and here in our school we also use casio calculators. in that video i haven't seen a single solar panel. do these TI calculators really need to be charged? lol
I have a keyboard that works with the link port. It allows you to type out stuff at a decent speed. It's about the size of a netbook keyboard and uses the link port. I find it pretty useful as it works with any model with that port. Edit: it is an official accessory straight from TI
I made the programs for solving certain formulas and would transfer them to others in highschool. Really simple to use honestly and was surprised that others didn't.
Im surprised at the amount of people in the comments who have never seen TI-84 calculators. These calculators were the standard in our school, The TI-84 Plus to be more exact. Had mine all customized with a printable sticker for the case and everything.
To be fair, the TI 84 Plus was released in 2004, 15 years ago. There are many people who graduated college before it was released. Also, some can't afford a TI-84 so they could've used the less expensive Casio or HP calculators.
I am blind, and I have a TI 84 with an added voice module that speaks things aloud, however I’ve never tried that jack before, because I don’t have any adapters or earphones for it, but I suspect the voice could maybe go through that port? I don’t know
i always wondered if it would be possible to do messaging / basic web stuff over the TI link port interface, it's cool that such projects actually exist
Story time: I have a TI83+, which doesn't have USB, so I borrowed my friend's TI84, which does have USB. I downloaded MirageOS and Tetris onto his calculator and transferred them to mine using that stupid little port with a 2 inch cable. Tetris has GameBoy-style multiplayer using the link cable, which is really cool.
I'm surprised you didn't use Casio calculators over there. The only brand of calculators I know are Casio and I thought that's what was using around the world... They don't have anything like this though
@@No-mq5lw wow I mean ok then, it's the other way around for us, subjects such as maths and physics are based upon the fact that we are required to own a Casio scientific calculator
Aaaaaand in Romania you have to do everything by hand. The exam doesn't focus on crunching huge numbers that you need a calculator for, but rather small but complicated tasks that test your brain.
@@DanCojocaru2000 ah well we do have that, in the GCSE's that we do in year 11 we have 3 exams and 2 of them are calculator and the other is mental problems
Casios can be kindof boring, though they can load games like tetris or jet pack joyride. But they do have an headphone jack. And at least they don't boot in overwrite mode.
You mentioned that an external keyboard may not have been what TI intended for their keypress protocol - but I've got a TI-produced, external QWERTY keyboard that my wife bought for her TI-84 in the early 2000s that says otherwise. (I'm pretty sure they were made before graphing calculators were SAT-legal at all.) Anyway, I'd been meaning to reverse-engineer the thing to use it with some other electronics projects,but hadn't gotten around to really researching it, so thanks for the explanation of the methods it uses; that will give me a leg up.
The's actually a modified ti 84 plus that has a speech an sound unit that makes it blind accessible. It does include usb and link ports but also has a real headphone connection and an internal speaker to output the graph audio and speech. The accessibility unit connects to the top of the unit, taking up the built in link port and mini usb, so it is possible to remove it and use the calculator normally. The unit also supports braille as well as making it easy to review the screen and other stuff to make it somewhat simple to use it blind.
Some old devices (70s-80s) had a headphone-type 2.5/3.5mm jack that was used for an AC adapter power connection, sometimes to charge an internal rechargeable battery pack.
I have a wall outlet to 3.5mm jack charging cable from an old calculator. The calculator itself no longer works, but I kept the cable to be enshrined in my "wft even is this" display of weird tech stuff. Whenever somebody asks what it's for, I say it's for listening to AC/DC.
If you can network that many calculators can you turn them into a cluster computer? That would be kinda cool. It would also be interesting to implement something modern like TCP over IP for the heck of it.
Instead of trying to make the TI play audio how about sending MIDI commands? That would be much easier. It could be incorporated into a game like DOOM.
TI calculators use that jack/port to insert a communication cable. It allows two of these calculators to talk to each other (among other possible uses).
To listen to math rock, of course.
I thought math nerds listened to electronic or techno music...
Or electronic music played by their calculator
I've been delayed.
Fun fact: Math Metal is an actual thing, but it's not what you think. "Math Metal" is essentially the process of using equations and ratios in coordination with music theory in order to write riffs and rhythms. It's extra as fuck, but it slaps nonetheless.
Math rock is my jam
Uh...s..sir?
Me: Yo pass the aux cord
Friend: you better not play the Quadratic Formula
Me:
😂
😂
😂
_sees name_
Ha!
Oh yes,the quadratic formula,an absolute banger but personally my favourite song is Pythagoras’ theorem
"what you hearin bro?"
"Graphs by Polynomial"
Ah yes, my favorite song
Bruh that is so old school. The theme from Geometry Dash is the shit rn
“Nah man, Graphs was made by Datanade, Polynomial made Maths.”
"what you listening to bro?"
"Sine of 3π/2 radians by trigonometry"
@@samirbelica2358 I thought maths was made by 'X'
TSF: Why do calculators have a headphone jack?
Me: -Why do- calculators have a headphone jack?
me: what calculators have a headphone jack?
Poor people: TI Calculators, Casio Calculators
Woke me: Cellphones are just sophisticated calculators
Calling this "a calculator" is like calling a male adult panther "a kitty"
Not surprised if it makes coffee too
Yeah same for me because we used casio and don't sell ti in Australia and I can't remember them having a 2.5mm jack although they did have some i/o port
Edit: just quickly looked into it and Casio seem to have the 2.5mm port and promote it as a feature for external data logging
Exactly my thoughts XD
BREAKING: Elon Musk admits that self-driving Tesla cars are "controlled through the headphone jack of a TI-84"
No wonder it’s taking them so long
That explains why the Tesla’s are always falling apart they spend the whole budget on the calculators
lmao
hi
999th like on this comment
Ah, the TI-83+, my first game console!
I actually talked my parents into ordering the long link-cord (like 6ft?) so I could play a few multiplayer games with someone in another seat or on the bus...that was so
that was so what?
@@wolfpriest6954 yea, tell us dude
@@wolfpriest6954 "so nerdy", I guess.
I mean calculators and a person that knows how to use them better than the average person... Yeah, so nerdy.
Yo bro, still waiting to hear. The suspense is killing me
"That was so" ...?
Anndddd
can't wait to flex on these fools with my ti-phone
Cyranek it has a headphone jack unlike Apple iPhone 😎😎
Didn't expect to see you here.
O hey
Bruh
Didn’t expect a meme lord
I remember making a "multiplayer" "game" using two TI-86es and a link cable. It was horrible and laggy, but at least you could move around!
That's pretty cool! Did you write the game in BASIC or ASM?
@@TheLastMillennial Unfortunately, it was just TI-BASIC. Even less, there wasn't really any terrain to navigate.
Still, I think I did make a few apps like one where you could send messages back and forth.
All of this was in middle school, which explains why it was half-finished.
@@TheV360 Can you share your messaging program? Thank you.
Would work for Pokémon and other games like that.
@@TheV360 why the hell you got them advanced calculators in middle school? all we had were those little cheap plastic toy ones that came with a magazine that could only do +-*/
Used a Ti83 back in Highschool and College, 1997-2005. I hooked it up to my computer many times and downloaded and uploaded many programs. I never knew 2 calculators could be hooked together with the IO port. 20 years later and I'm still learning, thank you!
Better question, Why does a 20 year old technology that is slow as hell still cost $100 dollars?
because money
Expensive parts and production
@@anderson9244MLG what expensive parts. Maybe 10 years ago.
Texas Instruments has a monopoly on the school calculator market, so they can screw over whoever they want with their ridiculous prices.
scale/volume. calculators are nothing to the volume of smartphones
2019: Calculator have headphone Jack
2050: Calculator have type c dongle headphone jack
It's 2020
@@Ibbys_space video is from 2019
I think you mean 2004: _Calculator have headphone Jack_
with a RTX3080
Cyberjackass aPpLe 2050
Remember that Gameboy recompiler that turns any Gameboy game into a TI program?
Add TI Link Cable support to that.
No idea how difficult that would be, emulating the GB link protocol might have some serious overhead, but it'd be cool to see
TI link is probably not fast enough to transfer at GB link cable speeds
I'm sure you could make some glue logic, assuming the game boy has flow control.
So you can flex on apple fanboys
and note10
Today, most phones are dropping the headphone jack, not just Apple.
@@christianmoore7109 But they were the first to use it on a commercial smartphone.They started the craze.
@Wyatt Broussard Samsung, razer, htc...
@@SomeNot Samsung, Razer and google thats it htc still has headphone jacks
Einstein hiding his secret mix tape in the calculator: *Sweats in math*
Stfu kid NoBoDy pls don't do that again
@Kats it does make more sense without the "nobody"
@Kats Aye
*Mirror temple - Mirror magic remix plays*
@@Nylspider I get that reference
Funny thing about the keyboard, TI actually made one for their calculators! I got one to go with my TI-89 titanium a while back, and it came with a cool sliding case with a kickstand inside, so you could prop it up while typing.
The weirdest part about it was that it lacked a number pad. I thought that was a strange thing to omit in a calculator. But it works great for apps like NoteFolio.
TI-92 with its built in qwerty keyboard still beat it though- actually took class notes on that thing
It doesn't need a number pad because the entire calculator is, well, a number pad.
Why do calculators have a headphone jack?
I have a better question
Why expensive flagship smartphones DON'T have a headphone jack?
Because they want you to buy the expensive airpod shits
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My smarthphone has a headphone jack :v
I wish there's a device with double headphone jack just to flex on Apple lol
Yeah but it's such a rarity nowadays...amongst flagships I mean
While everybody else was playing Mario on their TI-83, there I was trying to make the whole screen black in the graphing feature.
Mario? I was in the Phoenix club lol A great game to ruin the 2nd key on your calc.
Andrew Hunt I don’t know what that means.
My thing was making a set of equations that would take the longest to graph. I would literally let it sit for most of a class period doing nonsense trig and logarithmic operations to see if I could get it past an hour. I forget what record I set for that as it's been 5 years, but I still remember doing that fondly.
@@SyphistPrime I remember making one that spiraled outwards forever. The calculator would eventually just stop, probably because it was out of memory, but I could get it to run for a good half hour.
and i made art with it
These calculators are a lot more relatable than I thought. Their 'exchanging data' is a lot like calls with me, awkward as we speak over each other, not understanding each other and just silence when we shut up after speaking over each other. I feel for these calcs
This exists so you can turn up the volume while playing doom
Yes.
lol
I've always considered these calculators to be more like mini computers then just calculators, they remind me of old computers such as the C64
That analogy may be closer than you realise: you see, all the TI-8x models except the 89 have a zilog Z80-compatible cpu; the 89 and the voyage both have a motorola 68000 cpu
What about ENIAC compared to calculator in term of processing power
@@fadrium1464 If you look at this bit here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC#Main_ENIAC_parts you'll see that ENIAC's architecture is very different from the computers we know today, i therefore think a direct comparison will be difficult; i certainly don't have the knowledge to do so.
They are more closely related to the zx spectrum
Could you actually write an OS that supports MS basic like an 8-bit micro for them? That would actually be super cool having a pocket sized 8-bit micro.
Fascinating! I thought it was to assist people with various visual impairments, since TI calculators are pretty complex. This is really cool, though!
the TI-59, TI-58, and TI-58C had an optional thermal printer called the PC100C in late 70's. The 58C and 59 were basically full size computers with programmable functions and the 59 had a magnetic card reader. There were other things made to make it more like a desktop micro computer like a tv out box called video 59 and devices to switch between multiple ROM cartridges.
Tandy also had a thermal printer clear back with their PC-1 Pocket Computer ( I am sure it was made by Sharp, but not sure if any of the Sharp models were sold outside of Japan at the time) Unfortunately for me, I couldn't come up with the funds to buy one, I only had the cassette adapter for mine.
"before usb ports..."
*Cable has a USB connector*
USB ports on the calculator. The newer models have a built-in USB port for uploading
He meant before they put mini USB ports on the calculators
Earlier Sonys had jack-to-9-pin serial... you know, before USB was a thing. The newer USB-to-jack variants I guess just works as a USB-to-serial interface.
Guys, I'm probably wrong but... I think it was just a joke.
uses bit-wise flow control, unlike any 2wire serial.
As an electrician, we don’t consider the ground as a “wire” as the ground isn’t used. your I/O cable is a two conductor. The ground is a given. So no, it’s just keeping the job on three wires, it’s two.
CPC?
Is it balanced? I thought they are not, so current flows on the "ground". If it were RS-485 then ground would only be a refrence.
It's to play doom between two calculators :v
now that sir is an idea!
@@ivanrodionov9724 thank you ;v
Nice Caleb profile pic there.
@@kenansabic2901 i live... again.
subbed to your channel purly for the caleb pro pic... i love tghe blood games... THEY SHUD PORT BLOOD TO A CALCULATOR....
In a smartphone world,
A calculator with a full graphic display still feels badass.
I used a psion 5 as a calculator at school.
David Thattenbanos I KNOW RIGHT
David Thattenbanos and no one else in the class cared.
You use calculators in school ?
@@destiny_02 Yes. It's part of the lesson plan. They're used to confirm your work.
And also help to free up time on tests as calculators are everywhere so it makes sense to allow them to be used in school.
@@orangejjay here in india, I was only allowed to use calculator after reaching college.
title: has a headphone jack
video: it's not a headphone jack but that's not a clickbait
first time seeing your channel, last time too
Damn, even a calculator has friends to talk to
Don't worry. You have us.
Meanwhile in South America: *gets physics degree with a Casio 95*
In most of the planet the Casio scientific calculators are the standard so.. never understood why they even enforce in universities to not use programmable ones
@MaggieOnline Obviously. Their VPAM lineup is truly remarkable. Not only in South America but also in other countries, Casio is a famous brand only because of their Quality within Budget. It may not have a Fancy headphone jack like other SO CALLED calculator manufacturers, at least, Casio is very much efficient.
@@dewanmasooduddin don't forget the battery that lasts forever, i have a 15-year-old Casio that did not need a change yet
@@Souls4Roca Obviously. That's what a Japanese quality upon which we can rely easily.
@@Souls4Roca we use fx911es versions they r non programmable.
I haven't had a new calculator since the late-1980s and these calculator videos of yours are blowing my mind.
I see, now, why, when my friend's daughter wanted a calculator for college, she laughed when I said "Here... you can have my Casio fx-7000G"
Who else is watching the video because they never heard of this.
Me
pun intended?
@@Kitulous it wasn't.
Yep!
Ti-83 calculators? They are the best thing ever when you are in high school, because you can play games on it during class or between periods.
00:50 The Texas Instruments port was called GraphLink. It originally connected to a PC using the RS-232 serial interface.
I have a RS-232 port that goes serial to usb
how else are you gonna get that copy of Phoenix from your buddy
Im jealous Americans get to play with these lmao
@@anidnmeno core memory unlocked!
@@Phazerville Like _magnetic_ core memory? The stuff they used in the 60s?
TSE: Why do calculators have headphone jack
Me: THE ! WHAT ?
Teacher: What are you doing?
Me: Just trying to print out this graph from my calculator
On the Casio fx CG50, the 2.5mm is used as an actual headphone jack using a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter by using a Gameboy emulator.
@@EMEKC Corruption :P Ti heavily influenced the rules of standardised testing. Go look it up if you don't believe me
@@EMEKC Yeah Casio's are cheaper, easier to use, more powerful, faster, and have more features, but because TI sponsors T³ (an educational technology advocate group), T³ just "recommends" TI's. LGR made a great vid on this
Hey! I've got one of those!
Pretty much everyone I know in the UK uses a CG50. They're much more popular here.
@@Eden-rg2ul That is funny. Here in Missouri, I am the only one who has one. I am also the only one who can just plug in the equations 😎
Still remember the first day of 7th grade when some kid came into my class from a year under me with a TI loaded up with SNES games on it, I've never felt more in awe of a person than that moment in my life lol
My high school used this io port to plug in thermometers, so we could measure temperature in chemistry projects.
Nice. somebody should make a multiplex board, and undercut those expensive HP data loggers.
I’ve never seen a calculator with a headphone jack
Edit: I don’t remember making this comment
Edit 2: I think the people replying to this comment may have dementia
Same
I don't remember you making this comment either.
Cavey Möth 🤯
@@Solicify This is some crazy shizz right here
Cavey Möth I literally cannot believe what I’m seeing
I think i have discovered an amazing idea.
If you are having an exam and it allows you to use those calculators, then you can connect 2 of them (1 is at home and 1 next to you). you can make the aux cable send the info to a small database where the home calculator picks the info up ands sends info back. If you don’t know the formulas then the people at home can do them for you.
That moment when you realize a calculator has more features than an iphone
It’s spelt Samsung
TheLostOne 172 ua-cam.com/video/ZazNbG_3m9A/v-deo.html
@@TohkaVal it's called both of em just leave it at that.
@@VeryRGOTI he* meant to say Samsung instead of calculator that's what.
But not more than a Samsung
Wow, I used to lurk on Cemetech back in middle school when I wanted to learn how to program my TI, and now I'm in college. Nice to see the website is still up after all this time, and awesome to still see Kerm posting on there after all these years.
Yes, I did that too. My TI-84+SE was probably among the most decked-out in the entire school. I could play 8-bit MIDI songs with MobileTunes and real music with RealSnd. With USB Tools I connected a USB keyboard or mouse through an OTG cable to the calc's mini-USB port. With MSD8X I could even read text files on a flash drive connected to the port!
Omnicalc, Doors CS, MathPrint, A+ Calc (for calculus), spreadsheet, 3D graphing (faster than TI-89), periodic table, zoomable world map, chat, TELNET, Gossamer, Timerize, starfield screensaver, the list goes on... Even an experimental TV receiver! (although I don't think it worked)
I documented exactly how it was configured because occasionally it would become unstable and things would have to be reset and reinstalled after battery changes. Before smartphones that was the hottest thing for geeks to carry around. Gotta have your wallet, keys, and TI-84. One of my classmates even took apart his TI and added a tiny speaker inside to play music on.
That way of matching transmission speeds is brilliant! As for the other uses of the port, I think I need one of these. :)
Sounds so much better than I2C or UART.
"why does it have a headphone jack?"
what? it literally says I/O ..... .... ... .. .
Yes but no. I/O means Input Output. So it doesn't solve the reason
@@Seawolf.Gaming yes but no what? i did not really ask any yes/no question
well, i know what I/O stands for, im not sure how the definition helps your case
solve.. what reason?
your comment is very .. random, could you try clarifying what you meant
Some older cell phones actually made use of the 2.5 mm jack as well as a headset connector.
EnderCrypt He’s saying you’re right and wrong. No, it’s not intended to be a headphone jack, but technically Yes, it’s the same as a headphone jack.
He just said it in a short and sweet way, that’s all.
5Head, that's you
I only grew up with basic calculators so I had no idea some calculators even had headphone jacks
lucky you. that means you did easy maths.
@@SuperKnowledgeSponge Yeah I was actually allowed to skip algebra in high school
@@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 ur lucky af
I was allowed to skip algebra too because I was dumb, the teacher said no need for that since you ain't going to have a future.
P.s just kidding
@@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 algebra isn't that hard
2:03 friend: ay man let's play *quadratic formula* with me
Me: sorry my ping is too high
XD
wow would have never figured out that port clearly marked I/O and too small for a headphone plug wasnt for headphones, thanks for that
i always thought the "headphone jack" was for legacy support for the ti 83 link cables. Glad to know i was right.
Carlminion Calling BS on this my man 😏😂
@@RebornAudio shut up
Reborn Audio have you even watched the video
yes, but it supports more than linking to a PC.
I remember using my palm pilot in high school to mess with the TV carts. I used the IR transceiver to learn the functions from the remotes so I could mute, change channels, fast forward or turn off the TV/VCR. I had too much fun with that!
Ffs even Calculator have headphone jack...lmao Apple😂
Shah Amin Kamal
Apple isn’t the only one.
Phones without a headphone jack.
Google Pixel 3 and 3 XL.
Motorola Moto Z3 and Z3 Play.
OnePlus 6T.
Sony Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 Compact.
HTC U12 Plus.
Huawei Mate 20 Pro.
@Grandmaster Nobody said anything about samsung....
@Grandmaster yeah, but nobody cares about the Notes like they do the Galaxy phones, which are their main line...and those still have headphone jacks, unlike iphones.
Stoopio's Productions it’s the point of the comment dumbass what about Google Sony and the others really
TheKtwStudios you know that the note phones are a series of phones in samsungs galaxy line (their mobile technology department) right?
Me before watching: God, I don't understand any of this.
Me after watching: *God, I still don't understand any of this.*
This is all a lie it’s so that u can make hentai on ur graph calculator and then u can plug in headphones
Ive done it before
I know it was bad quality tho and the sound didnt work edit:i was joking
Always thought it was for people that were visually impaired.
that should be a thing in calculators now
I do have a TI 84 with an added voice module, never could try that jack though, because I don’t have the necessary adapters to plug in the earphone that way.
All the buttons feel the same dummy
Why do calculators have a headphone jack?!
_Wait, what?_
i loved my TI calculators and Casio graphing calcs. I had some REALLY wild models too (one of the high-end TI models had a full qwerty keyboard, large screen, and could map 3d and 4d functions.), but my favorite is the casio color models that showed up from the end of the 90's through the early 00's. These things were extremely powerful devices, had color, and were much more affordable for the functionality you got. They also used a similar Basic based programming language as the TI calcs, and it was pretty simple to port code from one device to another.
Growing up, we re-released several modded versions of several games, and even made a few (usually small puzzle games, strange ports of pong that had missiles involved, and I wrote a scrolling vector base skateboarding game at one point)
However, ALL of these programs would work FAR better on the Casio, and it was possible to even import (simple) sprites into the code using GET and PUT statements on data matrices that held pixel-color-data (I think it was like number 0 to 3 for the R, G, and B channels, or 2-bit-per-color channel... but you had only 4 colors that could be defined at the same time, it was ARCHAIC to say the least.) or just choose from a pre-set palette of 16 colors... which for a calculator was ASTOUNDING. Just keep it under 48k :D
The best I could do with the TI's was line and circle drawing, and pset/point 'sprite-like' operations, but it was closer to 'vector like operations'... and DAMN slow on the refresh. Most of the games that came out on the TI were, ostensibly, text based, puzzle games, or EXTREMELY simple stick-figure graphics for RPG's and if you were REALLY motivated (and had a math teacher with the link cables that let you do what you wanted because they couldn't teach you anything new anyway... that's what I get for learning calc in 3rd grade >.
TSF: why do calculators have headphones jack?
Me: why does the $1000 plus iPhone 11 not have a headphone jack?
Because something something airbuds or sum and they don't want to use other brand of earphones/headphones. Basically privacy of audio behind a paywall.
Tons of new phones don't. why do we only blame apple
@@juliethefoxcoon because others follow Apple like dumbasses
@@juliethefoxcoon because its expensive as heck....
@@vergilsplasticchair2426 Aux ports are not that expensive. I'd argue adding a bluetooth module is probably more expensive than an aux port
3:32 for a second I thought my PC displayed a BSOD lol
Back in like 2002/3 we would transfer games this way. A lot of retro style. Great video!
I just watched a video about a calculator I've never even seen in real life...
and it was great
Primed Pixel We even used these calculators in High School - in Germany 🇩🇪...!!
Everyone at my school has one of these. How TF did you never see a Ti-84?
@@lefthanded5473 I'm in the UK, we use Casio calculators :\
These seem way better
@@fathin7841 Yeah, I mean, can you imagine not paying over a hundred US dollars on a calculator in 2019, when you could pay the same amount for a cheap smartphone with more processing power then the supercomputers that were in existence 30 years ago?
im german and here in our school we also use casio calculators.
in that video i haven't seen a single solar panel. do these TI calculators really need to be charged? lol
I have a keyboard that works with the link port. It allows you to type out stuff at a decent speed. It's about the size of a netbook keyboard and uses the link port. I find it pretty useful as it works with any model with that port.
Edit: it is an official accessory straight from TI
I made the programs for solving certain formulas and would transfer them to others in highschool. Really simple to use honestly and was surprised that others didn't.
When an old calculator has a headphone jack but not the newer smartphones.
HGAMES69 so what
@@JimmyJames10-k7v Wired is still superior to wireless
Some username nobody cares only sound nerd give a fuck about that
Except that it's actually a data port and smart phones still have those.
@@JimmyJames10-k7v I don't trust Bluetooth headphones to not disconnect, and not everything I use headphones with has Bluetooth.
Im surprised at the amount of people in the comments who have never seen TI-84 calculators. These calculators were the standard in our school, The TI-84 Plus to be more exact. Had mine all customized with a printable sticker for the case and everything.
To be fair, the TI 84 Plus was released in 2004, 15 years ago. There are many people who graduated college before it was released. Also, some can't afford a TI-84 so they could've used the less expensive Casio or HP calculators.
And some schools NEVER allow calculators in the first place.
@@TheLastMillennial darn you make me feel old I had an 83 plus in highschool and an 89 titanium for college.
standard, in USA lol
here the standard graphics calculator is the HP48/49/50G, the one everybody in engineering courses use
The science elf I know nothing about TI calculators but this video is entertaining enough for me to subscribe
“Can I listen to some numbers?”
You're already watching and listenening to numbers coz youtube is a digital platform :)
I am blind, and I have a TI 84 with an added voice module that speaks things aloud, however I’ve never tried that jack before, because I don’t have any adapters or earphones for it, but I suspect the voice could maybe go through that port? I don’t know
numbers is a pretty good kraftwerk song. not my favorite on the album but its ok.
i always wondered if it would be possible to do messaging / basic web stuff over the TI link port interface, it's cool that such projects actually exist
Gossamer 1.0? :D
"Why Do Calculators have a Headphone Jack?"
To sync it with a pc or other Ti calc.
Saved you 9min of your life
I clicked on this video because I've never heard of the concept of calculators having a headphone jack before
the fact they still sell these things for $100 blows my mind
@@tubbunny nope can be picked up at Walmart, needed for college and upper high school math classes
@@jarlchicknugs5750 Some collages won't even let you bring a used one, either, they make you show a receipt for a new one.
@@DFX2KX now that is ridiculous
@@DFX2KX but why
Alex Jonathan idk. Hacking or something?
FINALLY!! Something useful that I was wondering actually appeared in my recommended! Huzzah!!!
Wait, they do???
Story time:
I have a TI83+, which doesn't have USB, so I borrowed my friend's TI84, which does have USB. I downloaded MirageOS and Tetris onto his calculator and transferred them to mine using that stupid little port with a 2 inch cable.
Tetris has GameBoy-style multiplayer using the link cable, which is really cool.
2:30 - Such a simple fix, yet so impressive. I personally have never though of this before...
motherfucking bee movie reference
edit: there are so many references in this video, props
where?
@@RamkrishanYT
4:45
I'm surprised you didn't use Casio calculators over there. The only brand of calculators I know are Casio and I thought that's what was using around the world... They don't have anything like this though
@@No-mq5lw wow I mean ok then, it's the other way around for us, subjects such as maths and physics are based upon the fact that we are required to own a Casio scientific calculator
Aaaaaand in Romania you have to do everything by hand. The exam doesn't focus on crunching huge numbers that you need a calculator for, but rather small but complicated tasks that test your brain.
@@DanCojocaru2000 ah well we do have that, in the GCSE's that we do in year 11 we have 3 exams and 2 of them are calculator and the other is mental problems
Casios can be kindof boring, though they can load games like tetris or jet pack joyride.
But they do have an headphone jack.
And at least they don't boot in overwrite mode.
@@wordart_guian ah yea but I guess they do what a calculator needs to do
You mentioned that an external keyboard may not have been what TI intended for their keypress protocol - but I've got a TI-produced, external QWERTY keyboard that my wife bought for her TI-84 in the early 2000s that says otherwise. (I'm pretty sure they were made before graphing calculators were SAT-legal at all.)
Anyway, I'd been meaning to reverse-engineer the thing to use it with some other electronics projects,but hadn't gotten around to really researching it, so thanks for the explanation of the methods it uses; that will give me a leg up.
You should activate the community contributions so that they can subtitle your videos and thus have more audience
rip
TI Voyage 200 absolutely rocks.
If anyone is wondering, the newer ce models have combined the i/o port into the charging port.
In the next episode: Why old phones have headphone jack?
*insert joke about phones not having headphone jacks but calculators having headphone jacks here*
_wow such original_
Lol, that funky music at 01:15 really set the mood for them Ti-84s 🤖👍
To distribute Tetris between calculators
*I was today years old when I realized that calculators even had headphone jacks.*
The's actually a modified ti 84 plus that has a speech an sound unit that makes it blind accessible. It does include usb and link ports but also has a real headphone connection and an internal speaker to output the graph audio and speech. The accessibility unit connects to the top of the unit, taking up the built in link port and mini usb, so it is possible to remove it and use the calculator normally. The unit also supports braille as well as making it easy to review the screen and other stuff to make it somewhat simple to use it blind.
0:16 the way he tried to put that into the port made me borderline suicidal.
Noone:
Math student in the back: * listening to midnight formula *
I love how this video speaks to every person who hasn’t actually read the instructions for their expensive calculators
Me: Yo pass the aux chord
Friend: you better not play
Pentagorian Theorem
Me:
Since yall liked my comedy feel free to watch my vibdeo ;)
Pythagorean theorem lol
Pentagorean
@@Ibbys_space Hahahahahaha
@klaus 420 same as your name
Erm, Pentagorian? Was that a typo?
@@Nylspider thats the joke😂
2:37
Normal people: White and red wires
Me: R u s s i a
I knew it wasnt a headphone jack, and I knew what it was for but I still got a great deal out of this video. Nice work.
when a calculator is more useful than any phone without headphone jack.
Talonfluff broke boi
@User
>bragging about paying extra money for a phone with less features
lmao
@@JimmyJames10-k7v after buying an iPhone you will be broke
quaint buy an iPhone 6 ? 7 ?
qwertzy121212 I don’t need a headphone jack I use AirPods the future is now old man
My first thought: Can it load a Linux kernel?
Try it, for science
Almost; a gentleman named Olivier Borowski has made a linux-like frontend for the TI-86: www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/106/10676.html
Sadly no, mostly due to space limitations. you can't even fit DSL on it.
If I recall, the Ti-Nspire CX can run Android
@@kneesnap1041 I have the TI-nspire CX CAS... Haven't tried that before... I'm interested now :O
Some old devices (70s-80s) had a headphone-type 2.5/3.5mm jack that was used for an AC adapter power connection, sometimes to charge an internal rechargeable battery pack.
I have a wall outlet to 3.5mm jack charging cable from an old calculator. The calculator itself no longer works, but I kept the cable to be enshrined in my "wft even is this" display of weird tech stuff. Whenever somebody asks what it's for, I say it's for listening to AC/DC.
If you can network that many calculators can you turn them into a cluster computer? That would be kinda cool. It would also be interesting to implement something modern like TCP over IP for the heck of it.
I guess the frame format allows you to add the tcp and ip header, given you can send data to an application.
The song at the end kinda sounds like the song “I’ve Been Delayed” by Tas 1000
6:30 TI actually did sell external keyboards for the calculators connected via the 2.5mm jack
*Oh.. I used to use that headphone jack to play music with my calculator tho...*
Instead of trying to make the TI play audio how about sending MIDI commands? That would be much easier. It could be incorporated into a game like DOOM.
Mark M most ti calculators don’t have speakers
TI calculators use that jack/port to insert a communication cable. It allows two of these calculators to talk to each other (among other possible uses).
iPad pro 2018 doesnt have a headphone jack and no calculator XD
Looooool
send calculator pls