Is this Bike a Threat to the Honda Gold Wing?
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- My two cents on the new SOUO S2000 touring bike from China and its implications for the Honda Gold Wing.
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Here's a version of this video with no music track. ua-cam.com/video/PKq1oDC1bvU/v-deo.html
No parts suppliers, no dealers, no track record...no thanks Chinese knockoff
Thanks for the video. I won't be buying a SOUO S2000 touring bike from China, I wont be alive when it has had 50 years of testing like the Honda Gold Wing.
Buying a Goldwing is not just buying a motorcycle, you are buying a brand, a legend, 50 years of evolution in 6 generations. That Chinese motorcycle only represents "I want to and I can't." Does not exist.
that front end suspension design is the reason I sold my BMW. I tried for two years to get used to that front end that does not absorb breaking force energy. It makes a heavy bag feel heavier at slow speeds. My BMW K 1200 LT is the only motorcycle I ever dropped twice in parking once over the past 40 years because of that weird Front end
when you use your brakes at slow speeds, like when you are in a parking lot. That breaking energy goes into the fork springs when you use the brakes. The front end compresses a little bit as the springs, absorb the energy, and your fork oil controls the rate of rebound from the springs. With the front end on the BMW, which is the same design. that this machine has, that energy does not go into the fork springs. The front end is not compress. All that weight of the motorcycle does not get dissipated into the springs. It just makes the bike feel like you have a wheelbarrow full of water and you have to hold the bike up with your legs. If you have the front wheel, turned a little because you’re in a parking lot maneuvering by turning the front end.
I was at a motorcycle bike night, and I saw a group of BMW riders that had the same machine I had, I walked over and started talking to them about their machines. I told them that I dropped mine two times at slow speed in parking lots, they all started laughing and said “get used to it “everybody drops them “.. And they all showed me their machines damage from dropping them. All of the rollover bars were scuffed, all of their mirrors were scuffed from tipovers.
The reason I didn't get a gs! I like forks to dive in braking!
Funny, I've never dropped my k1600 GT that I have owned for 7 years. I liked it so much. I bought a 2024.
I wonder where my fancy cream of the crop Brembos are actually made?
I have had four Goldwings stating with 1984 and have never needed a dealership. Now on a 2021 DCT.
Good video. I own a 2018 Goldwing. The reason I bought it is that it is lighter than the previous model. I like the 8 cylinder engine on the Souo. What I don’t like is that the bike looks very very heavy. I think that’s the reason the Yamaha tour bike does not sell. It’s just too big and heavy. But I would sure be interested in riding the Souo to see how it performs.
Really informative, well thought-out presentation.
As 'food for thought' goes, this was a banquet.
Bought a new snow blower with a chinese engine in it. It lasted about 20 hours. So I won't be making that mistake again.
Thanks, I'm a GL1800 owner from Vancouver Island. Formerly from Halifax. I enjoy your content.
Love your vídeos. Thanks for them❤
Excellent articulate video, lots of astute observations. The accent isn't terribly strong but still a charm.
I like the look and specs.... But, I own a older Goldwing and can say confidently it is a challenge to work on (for an uninspired amateur). But, being a Honda it doesn't require a lot. All that complexity from a new manufacturer makes me nervous. After a few years and a bit of a reputation I'd consider it. Put it this way... I love my KTM... But after maintaining it for a while, I would never buy a super complex bike from them. I just wouldn't want to deal with the complexity without a Japanese engineer ensuring someone has tried to balance ease of maintenance against performance and looks. I can see myself sitting there scratching my head trying to get a box of parts back on a bike I know they belong too... somewhere...
Oh and always nice to watcha video from another Canadian bike lover.
Picking up 2013 goldwing next week..I think .. Looks good
An opposed 8cyl....wow, that would be butter smooth. And the sound of it would be incredible also. Hope we see some of these!
Yes but it’s Chinese
@@MegaBailey67
And? 🤷🏼♂️
I live and ride in Asia, 250 cc is big. I guess for western standards, I am in the kids/scooter category.......but there is this resurgence of smaller displacement, lighter and simpler bikes. My "big bike" is the Honda Rally 300. This bike, as delivered by Honda has an absolute joke, bubble gum suspension (now on second generation), violating the most basic spring rates/sag norms. Further, it comes with nothing in terms of most basic equipment (not even a passing lights switch, needed here especially). The engine is super choked up, over engineered for low torque. This bike could be (and once modified is something special), but as delivered, it is a disappointment. Here, in this segment at least, the Chinese manufacturers are stepping up. They are delivering some bikes with actually, real world rider focused designs. These bikes also come with either brand name components or what seems like good quality factory components. In addition, most if not all the smaller components/details are standard. Overall quality seems up there (I have a little CFMOTO 125 cc Papio, all good or impressive). Last is the price, very reasonable. My next bike will be the CFMOTO 450MT. Wish it was Honda, but for now, Honda doesn't care, Honda is too conservative or whatever it is. Good vid, thx from sunny Indonesia.
Funny thing is some cities in China bans motorcycles
The Toyopet Crown was met with worldwide skepticism when it first entered the market in the early 1950s. "Metal fatigue" was the buzzword I heard a lot. That was Lexus' ancestor. Look at them (Toyota) now. I have my own concerns with Chinese-made products after I bought a Benelli in 2020. It was plagued with a list of quibbles related to quality control. For now I'll stick with the Japanese Big Four motorbikes for trouble-free riding.
yeah but it took Toyota 50 yrs. So China has a bit to wait yet.
You are right. After the first rider has finidhed hundred thousand miles in maximum 2 years without problems and the second generation is out, I will give it a look. Just bringing a behemoth to market is only the first step.
One thing good I’ll say about Chinese Bikes, they sure have the styling down. Most of their motorcycles really look good, but they all seem quite heavy for what they are. They are also nice in the ergo department as well. However, reliability and dealer network should be in front. If one of my big, four bikes breaks down, it’s possible that the dealer might have the part in stock.
As long as there is serious manufacturer competition, then it's all good for us.
I own a GL1500 se Goldwing and was a motorcycle mechanic for years and would really like to ride one of these Souo 2000 s the Souo will have to prove it's reliability
I have had two Gl1800's and liked them both except for the front end, the weak fork looked like it came off of a Honda 750 and that valve that prevents dive on braking was a safety hazard. There is nothing like having the front suspension lock-up on hard braking while turning on an uneven surface as the tire skips across those bumps. I disabled that POS before it killed me. not to mention cracked frames and transmission problems on some years.
Yeah the Gold Wing is a popular bike but far from trouble free and I'm glad to see the competition. Maybe they won't sit on that dog of a fork forever like they did...
Like the video and this bike looks nice . don't change anything your doing . This bike could be a contender in the futher . Like the new Gold wing but find it's got smaller and i like the BIG bike. As you stated it's the King of bikes.
Thanks!
Honda should have made the Goldwing in a 8 cylinder years ago I always thought, I've owned 2 Goldwings 1200 and 1500 ,Time for Honda to step up 😊
2025 is the 25th Anniversary ! Maybe they have a giant 2Liter monster ready to release this fall with all new design edition? It has been rumored for a couple of years now.
Justification for an 8 cylinder? A lot of automobiles/pickups have been going just the other way in last several years. From 8 cylinder to 6, and even 4.
@@FrankDank-ik7icthe new goldwing is more fuel efficient than many 2 and 4 cyllinder engines on bikes that are less heavy, so the downzising in number of cyllinders make no sense
A 2L Boxer 8, pretty cool. Maybe if the bike falls apart the engine will keep running and re purposed into something even better
It probably has similar Engineering Integrity to the Cyber truck thing?
Hopefully better. 😉
Don't buy anything Chinese, it will be garbage, I own a Chinese Gy6 50cc scooter, I spend more time fixing it. The gold wing is the best motorcycle in motorcycle history, with its unbeatable reliability, comfort and extremely low maintenance.
If Yamaha made this bike, yes. This Chinese manufacturers has no dealer network for service and parts, why would you buy one. Not to mention it hasn't proven its reliability yet.
We need Ryan my man to rip into this bike if you want a good an honest review 😂
No center stand, what about Navi and dealership in europe, price .Too many open questions where are the answers?
No way would I trust a bike from China. I also would not by a car from China
I think it would be a ballsey move buying one.
The depreciation will be Savage.
I will keep an eye on the reviews on this bike. it should be interesting.
This is what Goldwing should have done instead of what they changed to in 2018. This looks like the classic Wing. I like the style, don't know about the quality. Time will tell
Yer looks nice time will tell the price will be the thing to get it out and about and rest of the information will play out
we know little, zero track record , no dealers, yet somehow in a magical imaginary world is going to be better than something time tested and uber reliable.
I will be keeping my Goldwing. As soon as I see "Made in China" (on anything) I move on and look elsewhere.
Honda need to modernise the pre 2018 bikes…make it a proper tourer people can personalise….
Can you imagine getting parts and service...??? Not..!!!
“Harbor Freight Goldwing”…..😂😂😂😂
Good luck having it fixed 😂
We’d all be better off buying less chicom stuff.
It can still only carry 2 people and it can still carry only 2 peoples luggage
All while weighing significantly more than a Wing, has significantly less of a dealer network than Honda, has no reliability record whatsoever and is from a country with a vile human rights record
I might pass
I would never purchase a Chinese made vehicle no matter how good it was.
I'm sure a lot of people felt exactly like that back in the 60s and 70s in regards to the Japanese bikes too
As you post with your Chineese made device........
How about a bike with Chinese parts?
Underestimated at your own expense. Honda hasn't changed the Gold Wing in six years and seriously no active cruise control? Maybe this will light of fire under their ass and get their shit together
@@Magicinstalls 6 years with no major change beyond a larger trunk, isn’t out of the ordinary for the Wing/any bike. Considering the Chinese reputation for stealing designs/intellectual property/putting spyware chips in their electronics, I’m surprised that so many seem so willing to buy a Chinese Vehicle..
Think about this. That thing has wheel bearings are made in China.
Given that all of it is made in China that's not saying much 😂
I also have a '23 fat bob 114, I wonder where the wheel bearings are made? I honestly don't know.
Back in the day, German bearings were the best. Japanese were second, Taiwan is or the worst. I wonder if any or all of them have outsourced like everyone else has.
@@karlfonner7589 My fancy, Italian Brembo brakes were made where?
Honestly, why are wheel bearings an issue? Have YOU had issues with them?
Japanese bikes are very reliable, bikes made in China I'd be worried
🌿 I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DECENT MOTORCYCLE MADE IN CHINA 🤔
It will break!
Retail will be under 20K
There will be more tarriffs soon
on chinese products making bikes
like this very expensive . Its no
secret . It may however, be country specific. I
Nice bike though. R
It's China??? No absolute way!
hmm.. if up to scratch..i will get one..
Not Buying A Chinese Bike. And I Bet My Paycheck It Won't Go 300 Thousand Miles Like My Goldwing.
Paycheck yes, the whole enchilada? NO!
Lost me at DCT.
No it won’t
Chinese engineering…. I’ll pass on that lmao
There will be a lot more and more Chinese engineering you will pass until you have nothing.
LOL would you buy a bike from Harbor Freight? 😂
The king of copy cats. That went well for nothing so far.
Id rather pedal my a** down the road on an American made bicycle than ride anything Chinese.
I hope Honda is very nervous right now. They haven't changed the Gold Wing since 2018 you're basically buying the same motorcycle six years later for third more of the price! And seriously Honda still no active cruise control? Give me a break I would never buy a new Gold Wing
Yeah right. Buy a Chinese motorcycle. Go ahead.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHA....
no dealers in U.S. Cheap china wann a be.
The Goldwing Slayer already exists... K1600 Bagger
Goldwing > Communist
🤷🏾♂️ simple
No. Why buy a product from someone we will soon be at war with. Not if, but when. No thanks.
Honda will build a 2200cc flat 8.
🇨🇳 motorcycle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am only two minutes into this video, but cannot continue! I have a 40th Anniversary Goldwing so this video caught my eye, but I just cannot watch this. Why? The inane, intrusive and tuneless musak which dominates. Why do you need this crap? I was going to ask why do you need this crap in the background but in fact it is so intrusive that it is in the foreground! What is wrong with just speaking? I would like to listen to what you have to say, but cannot because of the dominant tuneless dirge? I would genuinely be interested in learning what you think the musak adds to your presentation! Cheers,.
So, you are unable to close your eyes and just listen?
Thanks for the feedback. Here's a version with no music track. Cheers. ua-cam.com/video/PKq1oDC1bvU/v-deo.html
Version without music is much better
Chinese bikes suck 😅
Never Will
"Made in China" Enough said......