Both US and China's education have problems, due to their selection processes. China's exam-oriented education may seem fair, but it's not actually "education", it only cares about exam scores and students are taught to become exam-taking machines; students who have potentials/talents but fail to perform well in exams will never have a chance. While in the US, the "holistic review" is mysterious and highly subjective, "foul play" can certainly occur without consequence, but overall I think the system has served US well. Not getting into HYPSM is not the end because there are tons of other options.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi The US is an immigration powerhouse while China is one of the fastest ageing society so I don't think the gap will be that big.
China recently changed the nationality law and now children with 1 Chinese parent (if they are still under a provisional green card) are considered Chinese citizens. Do you think this will affect those children's chances of applying as an international student?
Not clear what you mean. The child is a Chinese national if child is American born and one parent does not have a green card and is not a US citizen. That should be exceedingly rare for a parent to not get at least a green card by the time the child is a high school senior.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi Can’t post links here but you can find the law change in Chinese. Green cards tied to marriage (like my wife’s) cannot be used to rule out Chinese nationality. This is a 2023 rule change. My wife got her green card shortly before my son’s birth. He was denied a visa to visit China and got a Travel Document instead.
🤔… interesting. We actually went through this because my son was born in the US and left before his mother had a green card. He ended up applying as a local student through a HK scheme.
@torao773 @MozichatswithHanFeizi Nowadays, the embassy looks at the visa status of the parents at the time of the kid's birth (not at application). I believe these rules have changed several times in the past but it was not well-documented (hence the comment about getting a green card at the time of being a high school senior), because the Travel Document was much more rarely issued until the last decade. So if the kid was ever issued a Travel Document, they cannot apply under the regular international student scheme, which requires an X-1 visa.
Along with other rule changes, the determination is now based on visa status of the parents at the time of the kid's birth (not at application time). So if the kid was ever issued a Travel Document, they cannot apply under the regular international student scheme, which requires an X-1 visa. I'm not sure if kids can renounce though. In the past, the rules were such that very few ABCs would get a Travel Document (almost all got a visa), but now, a lot do, especially because the wait time for a green card can be very long (H1B)
Most Chinese universities, if not all, including the ones you listed, essentially extend high school education for another four years. The heavy workload focuses solely on scoring high in every course, leaving no room for genuine intellectual growth. Professors are just readers of outdated PowerPoint slides because their entire focus is tied to research, awards, and publishing papers-factors that determine their career prospects, or even whether they can sustain one in academia. No one is genuinely interested in nurturing undergraduates, who, at that stage, can only take without giving back. Networking might be one of the few upsides, and that’s likely a significant strength for the universities you mentioned.
@CatandHamsterTales-sm8uw My son is third year at Tsinghua. I have two Ivy League degrees - undergrad and grad. You are a moron. I mean, c’mon lady… 70% of the Ivy League wind up in finance. Real genuine intellectual growth there… I’ve never met more sheeple in my life. US elite ungrad can’t even be bothered to interest its students to pursue PhDs (grad school means MBA or law school). They just want to shuffle them off to Wall Street while they scour the world for PhD applicants. That’s the thing with Americanoids… y’all’s tiresome, uninteresting, cliched, boring, dumber than stump and don’t even know it.
@@minyang7662 That came from unlearning everything in Africa and China. American education sucks. I used to hire ABCs 10-15 years ago. Now totally outclassed by mainlanders. Completely useless. Not functional in Asia. I can send mainlanders anywhere. See why I had to send my son (technically ABC) to Tsinghua?
I'm not saying you shouldn't express your views on Ivy League schools in the US, but it would be more believable if you were able to express similar views about for instance, Peking University.
What I see, is propaganda expressed in manipulative way. There are other options to obtaining a really good degree from a recognized institution. It doesn’t have to be from an Ivy League or an Elite European University. I personally wouldn’t allow myself to be vulnerable to giving up myself to an oppressive regime that treats outsiders with suspicion and their citizens like dirt.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi I don't serve the American Imperial Project, I only acted In good faith and posted the comment that you've taken down that was meant for the betterment of the individual and not the American Imperial Project. I only care to inform the uninformed about the facts that you refuse to tell and provide the viewers some suggestions they could use for their own benefit.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi I don't serve the American Imperial Project, I only acted In good faith and posted the comment that you've taken down that was meant for the betterment of the individual and not the American Imperial Project. I only care to inform the uninformed about the facts that you refuse to tell and provide the viewers some suggestions they could use for their own benefit.
@@khun9237 You didn’t know? About a third of students in Greenwich CN have ADHD and get 50% more time on the SATs. You took yours with normal time? Sucker…
I don’t think that French guy living in China is really all that insightful about the U.S., doggy. But yeah this system stopped working properly decades ago.
@@robertlee5151 So this ranking was done using the proprietary Han Feizi methodology… which was to name a few Chinese universities after four beers. And no. I did not go to HYPSM… but I could have, if they didn’t reject me.
Trynna help dumb wypipos out man! If a sizeable number of Chinese Americans choose to do this, it will lower Ivy League admissions standards and maybe you or your dumdum kids will have a shot.
Both US and China's education have problems, due to their selection processes. China's exam-oriented education may seem fair, but it's not actually "education", it only cares about exam scores and students are taught to become exam-taking machines; students who have potentials/talents but fail to perform well in exams will never have a chance. While in the US, the "holistic review" is mysterious and highly subjective, "foul play" can certainly occur without consequence, but overall I think the system has served US well. Not getting into HYPSM is not the end because there are tons of other options.
@@chilling00000 The US lost its scientific lead in just two decades. 🤷♂️
China has 3.3 Times the population of the US so it was to be expected.@@MozichatswithHanFeizi
@@feliz2892 And in another two decades, China will lap the US about 6-8 times
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi The US is an immigration powerhouse while China is one of the fastest ageing society so I don't think the gap will be that big.
@@feliz2892 You haven’t done the math on this…
China recently changed the nationality law and now children with 1 Chinese parent (if they are still under a provisional green card) are considered Chinese citizens. Do you think this will affect those children's chances of applying as an international student?
Not clear what you mean. The child is a Chinese national if child is American born and one parent does not have a green card and is not a US citizen.
That should be exceedingly rare for a parent to not get at least a green card by the time the child is a high school senior.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi Can’t post links here but you can find the law change in Chinese. Green cards tied to marriage (like my wife’s) cannot be used to rule out Chinese nationality. This is a 2023 rule change. My wife got her green card shortly before my son’s birth. He was denied a visa to visit China and got a Travel Document instead.
🤔… interesting. We actually went through this because my son was born in the US and left before his mother had a green card. He ended up applying as a local student through a HK scheme.
@torao773 @MozichatswithHanFeizi Nowadays, the embassy looks at the visa status of the parents at the time of the kid's birth (not at application). I believe these rules have changed several times in the past but it was not well-documented (hence the comment about getting a green card at the time of being a high school senior), because the Travel Document was much more rarely issued until the last decade. So if the kid was ever issued a Travel Document, they cannot apply under the regular international student scheme, which requires an X-1 visa.
Along with other rule changes, the determination is now based on visa status of the parents at the time of the kid's birth (not at application time). So if the kid was ever issued a Travel Document, they cannot apply under the regular international student scheme, which requires an X-1 visa. I'm not sure if kids can renounce though. In the past, the rules were such that very few ABCs would get a Travel Document (almost all got a visa), but now, a lot do, especially because the wait time for a green card can be very long (H1B)
Most Chinese universities, if not all, including the ones you listed, essentially extend high school education for another four years. The heavy workload focuses solely on scoring high in every course, leaving no room for genuine intellectual growth. Professors are just readers of outdated PowerPoint slides because their entire focus is tied to research, awards, and publishing papers-factors that determine their career prospects, or even whether they can sustain one in academia. No one is genuinely interested in nurturing undergraduates, who, at that stage, can only take without giving back. Networking might be one of the few upsides, and that’s likely a significant strength for the universities you mentioned.
@CatandHamsterTales-sm8uw My son is third year at Tsinghua. I have two Ivy League degrees - undergrad and grad. You are a moron.
I mean, c’mon lady… 70% of the Ivy League wind up in finance. Real genuine intellectual growth there… I’ve never met more sheeple in my life.
US elite ungrad can’t even be bothered to interest its students to pursue PhDs (grad school means MBA or law school). They just want to shuffle them off to Wall Street while they scour the world for PhD applicants.
That’s the thing with Americanoids… y’all’s tiresome, uninteresting, cliched, boring, dumber than stump and don’t even know it.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi You are an example of critical and independent thinking. American education works pretty well.
@@minyang7662 That came from unlearning everything in Africa and China.
American education sucks. I used to hire ABCs 10-15 years ago. Now totally outclassed by mainlanders. Completely useless. Not functional in Asia. I can send mainlanders anywhere.
See why I had to send my son (technically ABC) to Tsinghua?
Hey, please do not say "blacks".
lol i love this so much adopting "progressive non solutions" to my vocab
I would LOVE to interview you regarding this topic.
Sure… but I have to be anonymous
Did bro make this video just to throw shade at certain sports?😁😁
@@petershen1776 C’mon man, water polo is prima facie ridiculous.
im in a regular highschool but i didnt understand a thing he talked about
Lots of Asians in your high school? 🤔
I'm not saying you shouldn't express your views on Ivy League schools in the US, but it would be more believable if you were able to express similar views about for instance, Peking University.
Partially does, no?
What I see, is propaganda expressed in manipulative way. There are other options to obtaining a really good degree from a recognized institution. It doesn’t have to be from an Ivy League or an Elite European University. I personally wouldn’t allow myself to be vulnerable to giving up myself to an oppressive regime that treats outsiders with suspicion and their citizens like dirt.
@@jacksonsucker4216 I was once a propagandist for the American imperial project. We got you good.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi I don't serve the American Imperial Project, I only acted In good faith and posted the comment that you've taken down that was meant for the betterment of the individual and not the American Imperial Project. I only care to inform the uninformed about the facts that you refuse to tell and provide the viewers some suggestions they could use for their own benefit.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi I don't serve the American Imperial Project, I only acted In good faith and posted the comment that you've taken down that was meant for the betterment of the individual and not the American Imperial Project. I only care to inform the uninformed about the facts that you refuse to tell and provide the viewers some suggestions they could use for their own benefit.
Neat vid
medical stupid certifications? really?
us colleges really aren't experiencing a 'culture war' like you claim. the majority of students aren't freaking out about gay students being on campus
@@khun9237 You didn’t know? About a third of students in Greenwich CN have ADHD and get 50% more time on the SATs. You took yours with normal time? Sucker…
@@khun9237 Of course they’re not! They’re actively cheering for the chick with a dick on the swim team.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi colleges don’t recruit trans students.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi i was referring to how you call accommodations ‘medical stupid certifications’.
I don’t think that French guy living in China is really all that insightful about the U.S., doggy.
But yeah this system stopped working properly decades ago.
Maybe, maybe not… but Han Feizi is 😈
You've missed the point about what he said, try it again...
@ I did?
@carlomascolo2892 uh no, the point by Arnaud is what Feizi indicated... hell, he even confirmed it 😂😂😂
Why not just use the term C9?
C’mon man… is UPenn, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth and Brown in HYPSM?
So that corresponds to Harbin Tech and Xi'aa? Did you go to HYPSM?
@@robertlee5151 So this ranking was done using the proprietary Han Feizi methodology… which was to name a few Chinese universities after four beers.
And no. I did not go to HYPSM… but I could have, if they didn’t reject me.
@@MozichatswithHanFeizi I guess your parents did not spend enough money :) So your kids off to TPSFZUN?
@ Third year Tsinghua
COPE!
Trynna help dumb wypipos out man! If a sizeable number of Chinese Americans choose to do this, it will lower Ivy League admissions standards and maybe you or your dumdum kids will have a shot.