For all future video's: It is "Prinkipes" in classical Latin. In general the Latin grapheme ⟨c⟩ is the Latin phone [k], which is always pronounced hard as k in sky, never soft as in cellar, cello, or social. ⟨k⟩ is a letter coming from Greek, but seldom written as such and generally replaced by c. Triarii for example would be pronounced with 3 times the same i-sound of ea in easy. Not Triari-eye.
However no one is really 100% sure about this? And the language has been used / changed over 1000+ years. In the beginning no one even wrote down much spelling rules. So it doesn't really matter how you pronounce it because I can be correct ? Does this makes sense?
@@rubenheymans1988 yeah, I think it makes sense. I think most of the "correct" pronunciation of dead languages derives from the pronunciation of the child languages. For instance: "CH" in Italian always has a "K" sound. It's not irrational to argue that a "C" in Latin would sound like a "CH" in Italian, since Italian basically derived fully from Latin.
@@rubenheymans1988 Of course 100% sure no one will ever be, but there is a lot of evidence that suggests it was actually spoken as I summed up, amongst probably the elite, since there were many dialects as well. After extensive research a consensus has been reached among historians and classici that this is the most likely way it was/is pronouced and so is also taught to students when reading and speaking classical Latin. So there is a general rulebook, since many things are derivable (Isolated communities and dialects for example give good indication, like on Sicily they speak Italian with pronounciation much closer to classical Latin). Check out the Netflix series Barbarians. The classical Latin there is excellent.
@@tigervv6437 well yeah the 1000 + dialects too, my point is however you want to pronounce Latin isn't it always correct possibly? Or is that just ignorant thinking, im not into languages
Good job playing with the romans; the easy way to know if you use well Rome faction, is when the numbers of kills you make is bigger than a hundred kills, no matter how cheap or expensive are the roman units you used, because they have one of the best armys in game.
Apollo doesn't state he's the greatest, but his followers do. He gives credit to his teammates. Plus a lot of videos of TW, show players losing with Rome. This was a cool video of basic use with the faction, and how to keep the initiative in tactics
I am so glad you explained your chooses during this battle as a new player to Rome 2 and having very little experience with Total War games in general thank so much Apollo
I do like how, this, is how the Romans actually did things. Hastati run in, get stuck in with Gusto, do damage, absorb the ammo, all that stuff. Then the Principes smash in and carry the day against the tired and already battered enemies
I forgot how much I love your content lol, I think I had been looking for a strategy game and found one of your videos on this game and thought it looked so fun, but couldn't buy it because of the 60 dollar pricepoint lol, then I watched your conqueror's blade videos since that game was free and I could actually play lol, now I just remembered this game and looked up a seig battle video to see what it was like and you popped up first
I noticed a few things about the defenders that might have contributed to Apollo doing so well: Carthage is a new player (he was mostly using fire ammo), Seleucid played passive against Arverni (which led to him being crushed), Sparta didnt help his allies until about 1/3 of the way through the battle, and Macedon got double teamed.
1:30 I heard carthage and automatically thought, that city is doomed, tthen i remembered you were on the attack, and thought, that city is gonna explode from an arrow from a roman hastati somehow
I am but a humble subscriber knight and have been loyal to you for years my lord and it is my honest opinion that you should be more popular than you are keep up the great content!
Ngl this battle was pretty cool, it was pretty fair because u have barbarians and rome which is great at attacking and the defenders are also good factions like sparta etc
My firat total war game i got today i was inspired to get it because of you. Thank you its awesome. It may not be rome 2 but i the first rome but its still fun!
its actually weird because even when I first began playing, I always loved being the Selucid Dynasty or Macedonia! I honestly don't like being rome! Selucids have an intensely varied force. My favourite is the Horse Cataphracts. Anyways great video Good job Apollo!
I'd have to disagree. Yes Rome doesn't have the best cavalry unit in the game but it has two very good spear units, Triarii and Auxiliaries, some of the best archers, and that classic medium to heavy infantry that stack bodies like cord wood. While I do see the appeal of Macedonia and the other Greeks, Rome is where it's at to me
Few ideas that popped into my head while watching this video! Be good if you could merge units mid battle. Would make for some interesting gameplay if you could betray and turn on allies mid battle! Especially in campaign. I also want to be able to sling in dead bodies and stuff into a settlement to make the enemies sick, like you sling dead cows in Stronghold, haha!
@@sirofsirs390 turning on the allies would not be a good idea... it would be utter chaos... everyone turning on everyone and it wouldn’t even be a battle... the merging units is an idea though although it would have to be the same units and the dead bodies would work in theory, but it’s just wrong (I know they did that in history but that’s just not a good tactic for a active attack.. because it would hurt your own men) those are my reasons... I hope they help
Well u can take one siege engine and go straight for the centre or capture point instead of fighting head on and it got some advantage doing so like they can have flank opportunity, cavalry infiltration and bringing enemy attention
I'm not sure if you mentioned this, but simply standing your Hastati near an enemy unit will have them firing their pila without the need to micro-manage charge orders.
On the principes question. Both pronunciations can work. The hark k-like sound is probably closer to classical Latin used in the period. The soft c would be vulgar Latin (mediaeval). Classicists will also pronounce Cicero like "Kikero," or Tacitus "Takitus" for the same reason.
New to the channel and total war. Love your videos keep it up. To answer your question about how to pronounce "Principes", the Romans pronounced the letter "C" as the letter "K" is pronounced in modern English.
the pronunciation of principes varies based on how you pronounce your latin in general, the sound of C in latin has changed throughout the years-- if you go by classical latin then it's always a hard c (this even applies to ch which is always pronounced like the ch in chemistry in classical latin), but in ecclesiastical latin it's quite different! basically, your pronunciation of it as "prinkipes" is the correct way to say it in classical latin i think
Btw you don’t have to charge to make infantry throw their projectiles, just put them near your enemies, turn on fire at will, they will automatically throw.
in antiquity the letter c was pronounced like an english k as in kraft. So principe was pronounced prinkipe. Caesar was pronounced similar to Kaisar. Cicero was pronounced like Kickero. Modern italian is different; if an i or e follows a c, it is pronounced like a “chi” or “che”, so it sounds like princheepe. Spanish and English each have their own take on how to pronounce the c.
Thats not good Mr PixelatedApollo, Sir. Having snacks everyday... your influence on mee seems to turn out kinda badly.. ;) Aanyways I have my snacks ready for this one!
Legionnaire: Son whats your duty in this army?
hastati: Well...on this piece of paper here it says ammo absorber?
True
Lmfao 😂😂😂
😂
I use the auxilias for that. Not Roman life must be sacrifice in that kind of task
😂😂😂
Apollo, the greatest siege player of all time, a man who says “words are hard today” Literally everyday
Ots I mean its ot I MEAN not, not ot illy I MEAN SILLY
words are hatd
Hard I mean hard!
True
It's true tough!
I love how this game it happened in the firat minute. Some games its half over before he says it and i begin to get worried
I wouldn't call him the greatest player but aight
Apollo: this is how you attack Rome
Me: *"and I took that personally"*
Don’t get it
@@executeorder6559 I LOVE ROME
@@Trent733 ohhhhhhhh I like playing as Rome but hate being against them as for fuck sake it takes so long for 1 unit to break
@@executeorder6559 yea lol
@@executeorder6559 they really are a wall , they should nerf those frickers , they can chip your waves of cheap units
For all future video's: It is "Prinkipes" in classical Latin. In general the Latin grapheme ⟨c⟩ is the Latin phone [k], which is always pronounced hard as k in sky, never soft as in cellar, cello, or social. ⟨k⟩ is a letter coming from Greek, but seldom written as such and generally replaced by c. Triarii for example would be pronounced with 3 times the same i-sound of ea in easy. Not Triari-eye.
Awesome info. Had no idea that k was a "greek" letter.
However no one is really 100% sure about this? And the language has been used / changed over 1000+ years. In the beginning no one even wrote down much spelling rules. So it doesn't really matter how you pronounce it because I can be correct ? Does this makes sense?
@@rubenheymans1988 yeah, I think it makes sense. I think most of the "correct" pronunciation of dead languages derives from the pronunciation of the child languages. For instance: "CH" in Italian always has a "K" sound. It's not irrational to argue that a "C" in Latin would sound like a "CH" in Italian, since Italian basically derived fully from Latin.
@@rubenheymans1988 Of course 100% sure no one will ever be, but there is a lot of evidence that suggests it was actually spoken as I summed up, amongst probably the elite, since there were many dialects as well. After extensive research a consensus has been reached among historians and classici that this is the most likely way it was/is pronouced and so is also taught to students when reading and speaking classical Latin. So there is a general rulebook, since many things are derivable (Isolated communities and dialects for example give good indication, like on Sicily they speak Italian with pronounciation much closer to classical Latin). Check out the Netflix series Barbarians. The classical Latin there is excellent.
@@tigervv6437 well yeah the 1000 + dialects too, my point is however you want to pronounce Latin isn't it always correct possibly? Or is that just ignorant thinking, im not into languages
32:10 chant with me, brothers!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A SOLDIER!
LIFE! OF! A SOLDIER!
LIFE! OF! A SOLDIER!
LIFE! OF! A SOLDIER!
LIFE! OF! A SOLDIER!
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LIFE. OF. A. SOLDIER!
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LIFE. OF. A. SOLDIER!
LIFE. OF. A. SOLDIER!
we need another life of a soldier, I used to love those vids back in the day
Why hasn't Apollo made a "words are hard" t shirt lol
0:17: "I'm playing as rome"
Me: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down.
Lol
@@Trent733 lol
@@iceintheair lol
9 there was like a 30+ if you count the different sides of the civil wars
@@danielguilmartin9376 every country has a civil war
Pixelated Apollo with another siege battle love it
Your pfp matches your comment 🤣
@@chandrachacha4964 thanks man
"How to play as Rome!"
Apollo: have some good teammates (cyberpunk 2077 music)
Genius 100
10:39 Rest in peace that Thureos spearman who had like 4 pila in his face and another couple in the rest of him.
Oh my god. That man is dead. lol
Good job playing with the romans; the easy way to know if you use well Rome faction, is when the numbers of kills you make is bigger than a hundred kills, no matter how cheap or expensive are the roman units you used, because they have one of the best armys in game.
Finally a good player playing rome
A rome player is good finally
more like average player lol
@@brettvogel8418 what indicates that he isn't a good player?
@@derth9230 he acknowledges it in the video
@@brettvogel8418 you must be the cats tits then when playing as Rome. The kitties titties as it were
Good day,hello from Serbia.I cant waith to see a life of a soldier on that Royal peltast.
*germany has entered chat with Austria-hungary*
@@Trent733 Bulgaria backstab
20:48 -Rome in Carthage, it’s always a good sight.
Me - A pretty flattened sight more like
dang apollo your the mvp of the whole matchup ur a excellent player, teammate, and general and i love the fact that you used the romans to victory
Beautiful battle! Really found myself learning new tactics with this content, its made rome 2 even more enjoyable. Good stuff man
Awesome to see Epirus doing work. I think its rare to see somebody use them so well.
I'm sorry words are hard - every siege battle of apollo
Apollo doesn't state he's the greatest, but his followers do. He gives credit to his teammates. Plus a lot of videos of TW, show players losing with Rome. This was a cool video of basic use with the faction, and how to keep the initiative in tactics
Please do a life of a soldier video! We must see what happened to the Roman-Slayer
4:18 man the standard guy is a madlad
Apollo: Words are hard
Also Apollo: doing commentary
I am so glad you explained your chooses during this battle as a new player to Rome 2 and having very little experience with Total War games in general thank so much Apollo
Apollo I love your stuff. Could you do a Rome 2 Campaign one day plz?
I do like how, this, is how the Romans actually did things.
Hastati run in, get stuck in with Gusto, do damage, absorb the ammo, all that stuff.
Then the Principes smash in and carry the day against the tired and already battered enemies
I just noticed I wasn't subscribed to Apollo. N I have been watching his videos since 2021😩 sorry man just subscribed now
This has been one of the better videos you have out out Apollo. This was more informative and entertaining by far!
I forgot how much I love your content lol, I think I had been looking for a strategy game and found one of your videos on this game and thought it looked so fun, but couldn't buy it because of the 60 dollar pricepoint lol, then I watched your conqueror's blade videos since that game was free and I could actually play lol, now I just remembered this game and looked up a seig battle video to see what it was like and you popped up first
I noticed a few things about the defenders that might have contributed to Apollo doing so well: Carthage is a new player (he was mostly using fire ammo), Seleucid played passive against Arverni (which led to him being crushed), Sparta didnt help his allies until about 1/3 of the way through the battle, and Macedon got double teamed.
I think Sparta was trying to avoid getting doubled early because the Selucid passivity allowed two faction to hot multiple Spartan forces.
MATN studied classics and says prinkipes. Honestly, everyone knows who you're talking about. I wouldn't worry about it to much. Great video!
So happy he added a higher definition for his videos
When Sparta is in you side:This is Sparta. But,if on enemy side: meh! Sparta.
The hastati that routed at 10:00 were ordered by their officer to run along the walls as punishment haha, 13:20 and theyre still running along it
When you have watched so many Apollo videos “Words are hard” slips into your common vocabulary...
"THIS IS HOW YOU ATTACK WITH ROME" literally 1 minute later "I screwed up and cut off half of my Hastati." Me: OKEY DOKEY.
:D Precisely.
Best game for siege battles gotta say, and Apollo playing rome as he said in stream he did pretty good too.
Fakes right, goes left and charge straight into the wall. Job well done cav 😆
1:30 I heard carthage and automatically thought, that city is doomed, tthen i remembered you were on the attack, and thought, that city is gonna explode from an arrow from a roman hastati somehow
Looking at the thumbnail, all I could think of was that moment in the siege of carthage cinematic trailer:
Take those walls!
AHHH-
I am but a humble subscriber knight and have been loyal to you for years my lord and it is my honest opinion that you should be more popular than you are keep up the great content!
Finally a good Roman player
Ngl this battle was pretty cool, it was pretty fair because u have barbarians and rome which is great at attacking and the defenders are also good factions like sparta etc
”the p boys“ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was a clean battle. Good stuff Apollo.. love ya
Crushing victory. With a huge reserve remaining too. That's how you attack!
its so wholesome whenever romans and barbarians team up
I like how actually play them as if your are a general on the battle field
I was waiting for a siege battle where Apollo controlls the attacking force. My prayers have been heard!
What a coincidence that you play rome 2 total because I just finished installing it
Good vid man
we need another life of a soldier, I used to love those vids back in the day
My firat total war game i got today i was inspired to get it because of you. Thank you its awesome. It may not be rome 2 but i the first rome but its still fun!
All hail Caesar 😂😂
its actually weird because even when I first began playing, I always loved being the Selucid Dynasty or Macedonia! I honestly don't like being rome! Selucids have an intensely varied force. My favourite is the Horse Cataphracts. Anyways great video Good job Apollo!
I'd have to disagree. Yes Rome doesn't have the best cavalry unit in the game but it has two very good spear units, Triarii and Auxiliaries, some of the best archers, and that classic medium to heavy infantry that stack bodies like cord wood.
While I do see the appeal of Macedonia and the other Greeks, Rome is where it's at to me
@@Darqshadow fair enough as long as you are enjoying your time with them.
The "P boys" skksks the best definition kskksks
Rome II is epic
one thing he could do is manage the units in pairs, while one is fighting the other is resting, throwing tired troops against fresh ones takes a toll
to me, you are the greatest Rome 2 player.
Apollo will you make this a series?
i would like that
Few ideas that popped into my head while watching this video!
Be good if you could merge units mid battle.
Would make for some interesting gameplay if you could betray and turn on allies mid battle! Especially in campaign.
I also want to be able to sling in dead bodies and stuff into a settlement to make the enemies sick, like you sling dead cows in Stronghold, haha!
Uhhhh......no
@@novaalkronthe1st910 Any particular reason?
@@sirofsirs390 turning on the allies would not be a good idea... it would be utter chaos... everyone turning on everyone and it wouldn’t even be a battle... the merging units is an idea though although it would have to be the same units and the dead bodies would work in theory, but it’s just wrong (I know they did that in history but that’s just not a good tactic for a active attack.. because it would hurt your own men) those are my reasons... I hope they help
@@novaalkronthe1st910 Such turnings in battles are historically accurate and battle is chaos, my friend
I remember seeing this battle live, was really great.
This was very entertaining, great commentary!
31:46 that lone soldier is a baddazz
Man I remember being a noob in Rome 2. He is so right about noobs using Rome so incorrectly. Good times.
Well u can take one siege engine and go straight for the centre or capture point instead of fighting head on and it got some advantage doing so like they can have flank opportunity, cavalry infiltration and bringing enemy attention
I really liked how you commanded your hastati centuries.
Life of a soldier! YES!
Auxilia did all the work :) I'm kidding. Great siege!!!
I really enjoyed this siege for some reason. Couldn't take my eyes off it the whole time!
After WH3 disappointment this feels like cure.
@@callumander4141 I like fantasy titles yet feeling everything turning into MOBA is not fun.
finally a rome who doesn't lose because he doesn't understand strategy
Life of a soldier
32:32 “Pluto, back to formation!”
I'm not sure if you mentioned this, but simply standing your Hastati near an enemy unit will have them firing their pila without the need to micro-manage charge orders.
Thank you Apollo not everyone knows how to attack with rome
Goodjob apollo i love all of your videos
Yes a new vid!
Hi, nice video!
I was at the stream the Hastati is easily the MVP
You the best. Also a chad.
On the principes question. Both pronunciations can work. The hark k-like sound is probably closer to classical Latin used in the period. The soft c would be vulgar Latin (mediaeval). Classicists will also pronounce Cicero like "Kikero," or Tacitus "Takitus" for the same reason.
*proceeds to lay seige to the like button*
Hey Apollo, you should try this new game on roblox called War Sails its a realistic ship pvp based in the early 1800's
New to the channel and total war. Love your videos keep it up. To answer your question about how to pronounce "Principes", the Romans pronounced the letter "C" as the letter "K" is pronounced in modern English.
the pronunciation of principes varies based on how you pronounce your latin in general, the sound of C in latin has changed throughout the years-- if you go by classical latin then it's always a hard c (this even applies to ch which is always pronounced like the ch in chemistry in classical latin), but in ecclesiastical latin it's quite different! basically, your pronunciation of it as "prinkipes" is the correct way to say it in classical latin i think
You don‘t have to charge to throw the javelins. Just Put the Unit infront of the the Enemy Lines and use fire at will
East or West apollo with Rome is Best !
It was great
I totally enjoyed it
Btw you don’t have to charge to make infantry throw their projectiles, just put them near your enemies, turn on fire at will, they will automatically throw.
The P boys is a good name though
in antiquity the letter c was pronounced like an english k as in kraft. So principe was pronounced prinkipe. Caesar was pronounced similar to Kaisar. Cicero was pronounced like Kickero.
Modern italian is different; if an i or e follows a c, it is pronounced like a “chi” or “che”, so it sounds like princheepe. Spanish and English each have their own take on how to pronounce the c.
Yeah, apollo misworded company 24/7 misunderstanding different faction and always saying words are hard today.Love it apollo❤.
Thats not good Mr PixelatedApollo, Sir. Having snacks everyday... your influence on mee seems to turn out kinda badly.. ;)
Aanyways I have my snacks ready for this one!
Life of a soldier with the royal peltats
should do a how to defeat kush as rome vid. great siege btw!
We the people demand WORDS ARE HARD merch
Would love a Witcher 3 play-through, I’m sure everyone would agree considering season 2 of the tv show is out soon.
Yeahhhhh🔥
Imagine fighting with a Roman and you and you still get called a barbarian 😂 by the Roman guy 😂
JESUS that FRAME RATE! Also strange how you have 2 siege towers covered in IRON and one leather covered tower.