Shashi Tharoor on Salman Rushdie, Free Speech, Ban on Satanic Verses & Nupur Sharma I Barkha Dutt
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2022
- Congress MP Shashi Tharoor speaks to Barkha Dutt on the attempt in New York to kill Indian born author Salman Rushdie
Rushdie's book Satanic Verses was banned by the Rajiv Gandhi government - He has faced a fatwa on his head since the book from Iran's clerics.
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"IRRATIONAL Fear of Islam" is called Islamophobia!
"RATIONAL Fear of Islam" is called COMMON SENSE!!
Very true
There is nothing like Irrational fear of islam.
Yeah more than 90% believe in Saria law and consequently blasphemy laws.
@@NavinKumar-rh6qo sir from where did you get this percentage 90 percent or more muslims believe in Sharia law? What's the source?
Not all tigers are man-eaters, in fact majority of them won't attack a human if they don't perceive any threat. Doesn't mean fear of tigers is irrational. So there is no irrational fear of Islam. If there is, then any fear is irrational.
The only way to save Salman Rushdie, Patty Samuel , Taslema Nasreen, Nupur Sharma and Kanihya Lal is to promote free speech critical of Mohammed and Quran. Offense is the best defense.
And also condemn the regressive sharia
Promote criticism of every religion otherwise other religion will go down the same path.
Nupur Sharma is a brave lady.
@@Stoiccynic224 absolutely... Other's bad is more easy to see..
Both for mummins and Bhakta of all kinds this applies..
Yes they are victim of Islam , Islam full of bad ideas.
Tasleema Nasreen, a celebrated Bangladeshi writer has gone through a fatwa several times for advocating for free speech.
Indirectly he justified everything ...Khichdi discussion( no conclusion)....
Correct...🛑 He brought the misguided person theory to justify Islam. 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
Well why was Nupur sharma expelled from BJP? If she did nothing wrong, why BJP called nupur sharma and naveen jindal as "fringe elements"and not hail them heroes. Just you don't understand how government doesn't work that doesn't mean everything would be on your way.
" I'm not a believer in unconditional freedom of speech, in the sense that i do believe freedom of speech has to respect both political and cultural realities in the country where it is being exercised. "
If this is true, I guess non-muslims must begin to erect barriers to protect their culture & religious belief from speech and potential violence against themselves.
See 🛑 James Madison on Free Speech🛑 "The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable."🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
There is nothing called conditional freedom. Your conditional freedom of speech is a stupid idea.
Thank you Barkha and Sashi Tharoor. A well balanced interview from both sides.
I understand Mr. Tharoor’( the experienced diplomat and politician) perspective.
Leaders or Kings & Queens or CEO’s are required to take firm and! tough decisions in tough circumstances! That is part of the job and the perks that go with it!
My view: Un-ban the book. In fact, un-ban all books.
The State cannot behave like a wimp , it has a duty to protect its citizenry; even if it is just one against a mob.
Macron took a bold step in the Samuel Paty matter.
Denmark refused to budge. Middle Eastern countries with all their oil and money,can be sensitive to matters within their borders.They need to be told off if they dare to interfere in our matters.
A school principal cannot say that he/she will rather not deal with a mob of bullies(ruffian students that prey on the weak) than to deal with them sternly as per the rules of the school/college.
If the State does not implement the Rule of Law with all the force at its disposal then it is just encouraging bullies and mobs. Governments are creating a Frankensteinian situation by not dealing with the mobs. The more the govt. appeases them the bigger and wilder they will get.
Not one of the speakers anywhere , while condemning the act, has had the guts to call out the primitive ideology that is the root-cause of generating all the hatred and brainwashing in its adherents. It is time to stop pretending, playing Nero while the world burns, being an apologist anymore; enough is enough! It is time to publicly admit that there are deeply disturbing things in the world- wide political party called I-slam (which masquerades as a “peaceful re-lie-gion” much like a wolf in sheep clothing) and its dogmatic ideology contained in its manifesto called the Also-ran.
Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue is a 2015 book collaboration between American author Sam Harris and British activist Maajid Nawaz.
Appeasing them has been the root cause of them being the bullies that they.
Balance? What is balance views when someone is attacked for the well known reason. I don’t understand why leftists try to find always balance when it is about “Special Cult”, fact of the matter is leftists intellectuals like Shashi and many more are responsible for this attack, who always keep it low and run away to discuss the root cause because of their political benefits.
@@hello3524 They at least tried, i wanted to give them the credit for that!At least they were not in complete denial mode, like so many so-called liberals who find a log in the eyes of others and cannot see the trees in front of their eye lashes!
Many channels even ban my comments and delete them.
Barkha did ask leading questions. Tharoor tried to be as honest and at the same time diplomatic as he could be. Not everyone has the gumption of a Macron! People, when in power , behave very differently from when they are not.
The important thing is for common citizen to voice their opinions.Politicians respond to the current demands.
@@juniper601 I kind of understand what you are trying to convey, but Politicians like Shashi got a long due, they not only try to not speak when it is due, but also try to cover indirectly with keeping quiet on such killings in India. This whole secularism things is gone far too much, some sense of balance should prevail now, I was a centrist and supported Congress secularism for long time, but not any more due to this complete imbalance from these so called secular liberals. They gone far too much left in order to oppose Right.
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The irony, I'm from Karnataka and here there is a local author who basically abused Lord Ganesh in his book "Dhundi" which stoked a lot of controversy. You know what the "right wing" people did? They spread ink in his face as a protest. The last time I saw he was chilling on a TV show as a guest! And I am supposed to believe all religions are same when it comes to radical fanatics because of so called Indian version of secularism. Although I'm not a fan of Barkha's views on many things I really feel empathetic for her because she seems to be devastated by this news.
Don't trust Barkha Dutt she is a snake she is poisonous she stop sick she is very very insidious do not discount she sounds nice he's sometimes polite but she is soft the camera very very rude Obnoxious toxic even Shekhar Gupta on camera is smile sons speak so intelligent leave it this good choice of words but of camera is very very atrocious hubnoxious and very aggressive
There is difference between throwing inka vs sar tan se juda
Throughing ink you can not compare with Bomb blast by Jihsdiis
@@unknown-tl3cu Ya'll forgot to read? Yes there is a difference that's what I was pointing.
Modiji should invite Salman Rushdie and Taskima Nasreen and grant them highest civilian award.. it will be awesome..
Nothing makes me more sadder at this moment than to recognise that the Man Christopher Hitchens is no more around.. no one bloody cared about Salman Rushdie more than that Guy 🙏😓
He would have not minced words and he would not be afraid to call Sashi Tharoor's argument weaselly.
@@rp8028 what is more saddening is the thing that no one is openly saying that the act has been committed by an islamic terrorist. I read so many articles in the hindu and indian express they all tried to mince the words, no one put things exactly. This is sadly the mainstream discourse where not a single person want to call out islam. This is where we need people like Christopher Hitchens.
Salman is a great man. A man who has stood up against stupidity. Wish he recovers. Fanaticism is for forever busy.
Every world leader has condemned the attack on Rushdie, excep the PM of India. Jahan bolna hota hai wahan yeh mahashay chup rehte hain and vice versa.
I dont share many opnions of Burkhaji. Still she has the right to express her views in my Bharat. We have the Hindu culture where we always exercised heated arguments. Adi Shankar debated and won his arguments.
🛑"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.” - Thomas Jefferson🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
There was no so called hindu culture during shankara's time.
There were just different school of thoughts like mimansa, nyaya, vedanta.
I met him in New York few years ago and spoke to him for a few minutes . He seems like a complete gentlemen. Sad that man of his calibre should become a victim of hateful person .
Shashi Tharoor 🤣😂 hypocrite
The only way to save Salman Rushdie, Patty Samuel , Taslema Nasreen, Nupur Sharma and Kanihya Lal is to promote free speech critical of Mohammed and Quran. Offense is the best defense.
🛑 James Madison on Free Speech🛑 "The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable."🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
Nehru had once said 'to answer a book with a book'. Atal Bihari Bajpai seconded this statement many years later, 'Kitaab ka jawaab kitaab se'
Good
Islam donot believe in constitution nor in another things. They only want to impose one book forcefully.
islam has no philosophy. it is bunch of superficial stupid ideas how will they respond ?
Even after this Barkha - Islam is very Peaceful and most beautiful religion but Hindu is most backward religion 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
All Salman Rushdie did was to author a book on a dreamer. Everything in his book centred around a dream.
If Muslims come up and say this murderer is not a part of us, we will not have a problem. There are innumerous Hindus who reject Hindutva, but how many muslims go and protest om street condemning the attack on this author?
What are your arguments against hindutva?
I am too non hindu and anti hindutva which has dream of hindu nation..
Yes and hindus have dangerous cast system which they deny and many have accepted others eating beef but most Muslims don't compromise which is again creating right wing
@@deveshupadhyay722 I have no issues in accepting my Hindu heritage. Hindi Hindu Hindustan will work only in northerm cow belt. My Bharat is very diverse. Any ideology or religion which says there is only path or truth is in itself intolerant. The best example is european Christianity. Now Islam. Sanadhana Dharma has never been like that and should not be like that
@@aldahrishi4795 This is shashi tharoor's argument as a politician to counter bjp not an academic one.
What abt blind superstition of Christianity?
What abt crusaders
The current violence against free speech or the demands for condemnation are matters related to the symptoms of the disease. What wasn't discussed in this interview is the spectacular failure of the education system that should have ingrained values of tolerance and open-mindedness for day one of the education of a child. Our incredibly dysfunctional education system is the root cause. There is no shortcut to the systemic fixing and rebuilding of society from the ground up. Experts need to be brought in to totally revamp the syllabus based on liberal and progressive values, and the budget for education needs to be boosted significantly.
For a Gora it's free speech but for Nupur Sharma it's bigotry
ANF FOR ZUBEIR INSIDE PRISON
This attack might have scared the shit out of Nupur!
Nothing to laugh about!
Thats leftist mentality.. Thats why I became a centrist..Plain hypocrites . According to their worldview free speech is only for people that agree with them...
@@fawzifadhel1173 if zubair were in any western country he would be killed and thrown into river for instigating violence and invoking other countries
Hypocrites haven't cared an iota about Nupur Sharma, now pretending to care
The Late Christopher Hitchens once schooled Tharoor that the anecdote of shouting fire in a theater was mental gymnastics for jailing anti war protesters in the US during WW2.
So sad to see that he has not learnt!!
What anti-war protesters jailed in WW2?? ... I never heard of one.
Concern of the liberandu in this situation would be ‘omg what if the entire community of the peaceful get the blame for this attack‘.
Reminds me of Tharoor's debate with late Christopher Hitchens few years back.
Mr. Tharoor is super loyal to Gandhis.. never in his life he would say what Rajeev Gandhi did is wrong.. he will just speak lengthy sentences to hide his hypocritical mentality… eew
unlike u ......... (bjp godi mind) every INDIAN IS PROUD OF SIR SHASHI THAROOR after his time tested speed on BRITISH INDIAN COLONIALISM at OXFORD UNIVERSITY which prompted PM Narendra Modi to praise him in LOK SABHA QUOTING ............... HE DELIVERED IT IN THE BEST PLACE IN FRONT OF THOSE BRITISH GEN NEXT .............. WHICH IS A MARVELOUS ACTION AS TIT FOR TAT .................... SIR SHAHI THAROOR IS THE MOST PROMINENT PROFESSOR IN WHOLE WORLD IN HIS OWN CAPACITIES
@@anustupsen6021 Quite a selfish leader too… his focus is getting re-elected. He is good at that I must say. What makes you say I am BJP… I expressed my thought after listening to it… don’t be so emotional.. it’s called expressing an opinion.. in case u don’t know… I don’t want to waste my time trying to put across my view anymore.. take it or leave it.. Jai hind
in entire video he has not taken name of islamic scriptures responsible for attack
When I clicked the video, I suspected he would blame the security for the attempted assassination . His cover for congress’s view of freedom of speech is appalling. The question is why the violence and why it is ok to kill in the name of religion.
Shashi Tharoor is such a let down in this interview. Basically Shashi Tharoor is saying that Indian State in unable to keep an individual safe and is a banana republic. The greed to win election has made Shashi, a sorry and sad man.
Still even today modi haven't lifted the ban yet.
Shah Bano and Ban of satanic verses were the decision of the same period
Well well well..
There may be administrative merit in deciding what the Govt did in 1989 as Mr Tharoor said.
However, in deciding the way they did, the message goes like "If you people as community show enough violent, intolerant tendencies , we shall reward you by banning what you do not like to see or hear. And if you as a group show that you are accommodative, tolerant and accepting of unkind words towards you.. then you will have to keep on bearing it"
Establishment of the fact that Govts reward roudy, uncivilized, middle-age expressions and punishes modern, civilized, kind ones!! Thank you Govt for clarifying..☹️
Barkha, in India the hate is state sponsored. In the West it’s not. There are incidents of hate violence/ crime in West which r purely criminal in nature and no political establishment ruling/ opposition sponsored. In India too if politics among parties is controlled there won’t be large scale violence. Most violence in India is either sponsored by ruling party or opposition.
Rajiv Kulkarni; Sadly, it is mostly true for non-congress Governments like RSS/Hindutva. However, some congress netas have been responsible for spreading hate for their political gains. India is a fertile ground for it.
yeah ghori ghazni aurangjeb taimur iltumish jehangir etc were all BJP agents. Islam is very innocent
Shameless butkhadutt and थरूर what about fredoom of expression in reply of a maulaana provcating remarks.
You kept mum in 30 minutes chattering.about nupur sharma .
Now same supreme court has realized that sar tan se juda can not be law of in any democracy 🙄
well said Sashiji...respective governments need to weigh the sensitivity of their neighbouring countries
Shashi Tharoor touches all aspects of Salman Rushdie the writer and the environment that stealthily surrounded him. The senseless attack on Salman beside; the man who attacked Salman at the event has done colossal harm to his community and faith unfortunately underlining the much suspected belief that Islam is intolerant. Will the community rise wholeheartedly against the act of this man, and that of the Udaipur one and condemn them in strongest terms and voice to salvage the image of their faith which their acts seriously damage?
I doubt
The attackers of Salman Rushdie, Udaipur, Maharashtra are really victim of this religion.🛑 It turn an innocent believer a hater of other faith and act violently.🛑 Only way out is to make people exmuslims by teaching truth about this religion.🛑 Pleas listen exmuslim channels 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
its always a pleasure to listen to the wisdom of great academician like one & only Shashi Tharoor in any dam subject to empower the illiterate mass as a whole
Yes he is a great comedian
Dr Tharoor with all due respect the great late Christopher Hitchens quashed your analogy of shouting fire at a crowded theatre!
Rajastan govt not able to show guts and counter fringe elements against inflrmed terrorism is essentially what has emboldened them. That was a royal shame. Shashi Tharoor should denounce the gray and take positions against terror in any form.
Correct... Just one simple rule... defend free speech even if you disagree with what was said and who ever said it. Limit any speech that incites, or is likely to lead to, violence or illegal actions. 🛑Study what James Madison and Thomas Jefferson told about free speech.🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
Why is there a smiling pic in thumbnail?
All books should be un-banned! I don’t care if it hurts your sentiments. It is pathetic that religious lunatics go around killing people because people refuse to believe in your faith.
Good job Barkha, you switched off the voice. Nothing cud be heard
The clarion call evokes grave sense of responsibility from both the sides the stylus wielders and sceptre holders.
द सैटेनिक वर्सेज हिंदी में पढ़ने के लिए कहां मिलेगी
After every Friday comes another Friday and this Friday will be special one for a section our law enforcing agencies should keep a eye because there celebration are berserk and in that motivation they will try to overpower non believers leading to difficult situation for govt.
An improvement in the audio would not hurt listeners - especially the continuous low-grade reverberation.
Tharoor's comments show he has no sense of balance. In both Rushdie's and Udaipur case, the issue involved is the violent act which is unacceptable. Yet to condemn it, he brings in a false equivalence of an imaginary "Hindutva" act. Both Tharoor and Barkha must understand that they are lucky that Hindus are not attempting to kill th because they feel offended because their views don't agree with someone else's views
@Ramchandran Kannan; Hindutva is not kalpanic; It is a real threat as they recently violently attacked with lathis unarmed Christians during Sunday service. These cowards do not have the courage to disturb the Muslims praying on the busy road meant for traffic. What else can a civilized modern society expect from the Hindutva that worships KATILS and KALPANIC devi and devtas? Like Sri Ram murdered Ravan and Khumbhkaran with the help of a monkey named Hanuman that failed to pluck out a plant growing at the foot of a parvat, yet the monkey broke apart the parvat. LOL. Hanuman, the monkey that evolved without any wings, is claimed to fly across Bharat carrying the parvat, Hilarious and aeronautically absurd, to light a fire to Lanka, committing the world's first genocide. Krishna, popularly known as 'Makhan chore,' lusted at the women bathing at the Yamuna ghats, frequently hiding their clothes to lust longer as a pervert. Krishna encouraged and personally assisted the Pandavas as the charioteer in MASS-MURDERING 100 Kaurava brothers to resolve their family feud over an inheritance. Katil Shiva beheaded his OWN son and replaced it with the head of a large dead elephant, creating a composite MURDA, Ganapathi worshiped for good luck and removal of life obstacles. Are these Hindus insane or stupid? Satya Jayete.
Which part tells you he has no balance? He says unconditional freedom of speech can create law and order problems in a touchy society like India. The question was whether the book should have been banned. I don't see anything terribly objectionable in his response though one can wonder where does one draw the line? If you listened carefully, you would have heard Tharoor condemning the killing in Udaipur in this video also. Tharoor and Barkha are only as lucky as you to be a Hindu unless you believe you are a better Hindu and have the birthright to pontificate
In addition Shashi and Barkha also brought misguided person theory. Really these attackers of this religion.🛑 It turn an innocent believer a hater of other faith and act violently.🛑 Only way out is to make people exmuslims by teaching truth about Islam.🛑 Please watch and proogate exmuslim channels 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
@@kartikramachandran3693 The background to the conversation is an attack on Rushdie and the focus should have been on that. Yet Tharoor attacks "Hindutva extremists". Why is he so scared of condemning the attack on Rushdie that he has to bring in "Hindutva Extremists" to balance his criticism. This is merely grovelling before hardline Muslim extremists.
Second, he talks about a mob burning down of a newspaper office because of am article that nobody in the mob has read. The point is no action was taken against the mob or their instigators . We need a rule based society , not one in which everyone has to live in fear of fatwas issued by some extremist's perceived insult. I also believe the Muslims have double standards when they are quick to criticize or.mock other religions but are upset at different aspects of the prophets life. A discussion on a cartoon or participation in a TV debate or recounting am event in history cannot be the justification for killing other humans.
Mr tharoor you can't call others bigot just because your opinion doesn't align with others after witnessing these events for decades.
I still remember the time when Salman Rushdie o great writer he was inspired by Anthon Chekov and Joseph Conrad.
Shashi Tharoor:
- Author of Hindu Taliban
- Calls the economy class 'cattle class'
- Not one word to hold the Islamic theology that breeds assassins, or their handlers like Zubair, against free speech to account.
Deserves all the contempt.
Misguided (innocent) person 😂😂 this is what expected
Congratulations Tharoor for the clarification on freedom of speech!
Tharoor actually twisted what is freedom of speech, 🛑he did same as what all politically correct person can say at this moment.🛑 Please study more what Free Speech 🛑 James Madison on Free Speech🛑 "The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable."🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
@@TheSayKular anothing is absolute!
was the book banned in exchange of prisoners held in query pakistan...yet to issue a fatwa was unacceptable
Barkha’s sharp questions will satisfy her free speech advocate self-image, but by delivering them as no-balls, she allows Shashi Tharoor to take wild swings without offending either of their sponsors.
"Soft balls"
When shias are treated as kafirs by sunni muslims and nations Iran is silent on persecuted shias in Afghanistan and Pakistan but overreacting on Salman Rushdie .
Shias are treated better in India than others.
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Not even a single word of support for Nupur?
Just shut up. A tragedy has happened and how dare you bring politics here.
Why?? These people are mad n will declare fatwa against Shashi
@@xarup You shut up. Standing with Salman Rushdie and not standing with Nupur will be hypocrisy. Since they both are accused of 'blasphemy' and they have a bounty on their head.
Nupur hates the people too along with the ideology. Rushdie only fights the ideology and doesn't hate the Muslims as individuals.
@@nitishsaxena1372 You're assuming that. Everyone has problem with Islam not with muslims. No one is born violent. The ideology you grow up around affects you.
And in no way you cannot justify the life threat Nupur is facing today.
While you keep following Gandhi's principles, the religion of peace keeps cutting your throats peacefully.
Massive smile thumbnail on the video?
Don't you worry, I have asked her to bawl.
The Violence against the Disbelievers is prominently displayed in the Qur'an!
I'm an ex-Muslim and I concur 100%
You are Brave Bro!
a murder accused is today an adviser to every situation in India....what irony
It’s time to think critically and acknowledge that the principle of freedom of speech enshrined in Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) 1948, was to give voice to those without voice and it was to be used with responsibility. Unfortunate that he has been attacked. The argument that wrong words need to be countered with right words also doesn’t have the basis of equity or equality. Not everybody can be a Rushdie. It’s not to condone the savage attack on Rushdie but a reminder that Freedom of Speech needs to be used with responsibility.
Unless you fight fire with fire, they will keep coming at you as the doctrine asks them to do so. When the state play to their tune you don't have any option but to empower and protect yourself.
That's an excellent conversation !!
WHY INDIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS HAS LOST IT'S CREDIBILITY ACROSS INDIA?
Congress Party’s main problem is that they have identified Congress Party with Nehru-Gandhi family. If Nehru-Gandhi family lose importance or become very unpopular, the party too will lose. This is what is happening now. Also the Gandhi family do not want to lose the grip over the party.
Congress is vanishing from state after state. Gandhi family do not have any clue over the same. They are not strengthening the party or working to make the party relevant in those states.
Congress is now run by the fifth generation of Nehru-Gandhi family. The fifth generation of Gandhi family have decayed too much. Nehru and Indira Gandhi became powerful leaders because of their personal charisma and their merit. Rajiv Gandhi had the goodwill of Gandhi surname. But Rahul do not have the same luck. Also Rahul is a poor replica of his ancestors.
Gandhi family will not allow any leader to raise in the party, because they are afraid that they may become more powerful in the party. At the same time all these three Gandhis are too dumb to lead the party. Hence all the leaders one by one are leaving the party to greener pastures.
Just like a child don't feel the need to work as he is fed by his parents even though he is not hungry, congress is not feeling the need to work to.come into power. Hence the congress even doesn't know the ways to connect with people and request them to vote for them.
Their are many parties which have ideology similar to congress which eat into Congress votes in various States. While on the other other hand bjp has got virtual Monopoly in their ideology.
The Congress of 1980 and before was one of power and popularity. Congress attracted the best intellect then. Nepotism has pushed the party to the brink. The mediocre leadership is only increasing its decay faster. In the present situation Congress may find it difficult to retain the present strength. Congress will not be able to win even 50 seats in 2024 forget about winning 2024 elections.
My respect for China and Israel are increasing on daily basis
why
How about H I T L E R? You respecting him more now?
@@shaunshaikh8617 The way China is treating Uyghor, is the way the world should treat these zombies
In Israel, it's a clash between Jews and Arabs (which include Christian Arabs). But Israel is modern and 20% of it population are Arabs and Muslims.
You were where?at that time?
Taking a dump!
Very chilling defense. I am numb
Shasi sir we Indians havent read the book as it is prohibitted but your argument of law and order alone stand for the crime defaming the world historical truth virtues as the Babri judgment.......
Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti hi...... Loka samasta sukhino bhavantu ........🙏🙏🙏
In my opinion, this act of violence is going to give the BJP Government more to use against the Muslims of India
Current govt is too scared about the minority countries for oil. Modi has no guts to take any action even if they are wrong
dont forget sar tan se juda concept started by the so called peacefuls.
Where is the “Word”
Midnight children were a better book than satanic verses. People that were excited even did not read the book. However, Salman Rushdie should not have inserted in the publicity portion of the book. It was the publicity that created this bad situation for Rushdi. His publisher wanted, and he agreed. I am a reader of Dr.Tharoor, and I believe he will not agree with the manipulative language of his publisher.
Hogwash!! What publicity?? Islamists are outraged by cartoons, let alone a book. Stop whitewashing Islam. I'm an ex-Muslim. It's a horrific religion
The retelling of Islam’s origins is a minor theme, in a multifaceted multi-timeline multi-layered epic, occupying only 72 pages in a narration that spans 547 (as per the _Satanic Verses’_ 1st ed. I read, way back in 1989), i.e. ca. 1/8th of the whole book. Contrary to popular belief, both detractors’ & supporters’, Rushdie’s theme was not Islam at all, but the post-colonial experience of the 20th century Diaspora to which he himself belongs. If the people who are decrying the book had taken the trouble, in these 33 years, to actually read it they would have discovered how sympathetic it really is to the predicament of the immigrant (especially from the Indian subcontinent) in the UK, and how full of vitriol it is against the British system (PM Thatcher is dubbed “Mrs. Torture”, for example) for demonizing the poor hapless migrant for no fault of his: that was the “Satanic” aspect-directed against Western hypocrisy, not, in the first instance, at Koranic revelations.
Then why that specific title? Because the story of the so-called Satanic Verses, whether today judged apocryphal or not, is, nevertheless, recounted by some of Islam’s own earliest and most respected scholars; and if one came from a Muslim background, as the Rushdie family does, like all true writers, one would naturally dip into one’s own backyard for inspiration, rather than go far and extract something from, say, the Mormons or Moonies of Korea, where, too, similar (though less apt) metaphors might have been found. Yes, that’s it, while playing a peripheral role within the pages of this book, that too in two dream sequences, the story of the beginnings of Islam served Rushdie as a powerful metaphor, on 3 levels:
1.) the Islamic calendar is the only one in world history where Time itself begins with an act of Immigration (that of the Prophet to Medina, literally, “the City”)-do you see the connection? Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis moving to London City? all three nationalities and _it_ , the cosmopolitan metropolis, not Islam, are the main characters of the novel;
2.) What this Migrant figure does or says is often derided and misunderstood-even as the Prophet was, in the first half of his years of Prophethood-by the society surrounding him: it will contrive to make demonic what is angelic, and vice versa, and this provides Rushdie with a motif of mirrored transmutations, unparalleled since Kafka’s _Metamorphosis_ ;
3.) again, challenged on all fronts, the Migrant might momentarily succumb to social pressures, but then, quickly, revert to his former true self. That is exactly what the above-mentioned Islamic sources say happened, in the so-called Satanic Verses event, and that also is exactly how it is retold by Rushdie.
Mahound [the Prophet’s fictionalized title, after a medieval orthography, but also, methinks, as a typically Rushdiesque triple-repartee, after the Urdu word “mahout”, an elephant trainer/tamer, itself an allusion to the Prophet’s birth in what pre-Islamic Arabs called ‘the Year of the Elephant’, when an army of war elephants were prevented by divine intervention from destroying the Kaabah, thus, in my opinion, not a pejorative, but a praise-name, ‘Mahound’ presenting the Prophet as a Migrant able to dominate the rogue forces of history, overcome his adversaries]… Mahound is in fact shown, in the novel, retracting the Satanic Verses, immediately after the words had escaped his lips! Where is mockery here? Is that not what Islam’s own most revered sources say? Is he not a hero who, by the sheer strength of character, is able to dispel the most nefarious designs of the Devil? Mahound is, indeed, such a heroic personage! *The reading of **_The Satanic Verses_** did not, by one bit, diminish my own respect for the religion of Islam, esteem for Islamic civilization, nor my love of and my trust in my Muslim friends:* I still share in their joy at _Eid_ ; still partake of their _iftaar_ , and, in return, give them gifts at Christmas, as I’ve done since I was a child. It is rather these lone wolves that tarnish all of Islam, in the eyes of the world: there are many Muslim immigrants where I live, who don’t know the local language; a scene often happens at the hospital, here; because of covid restrictions, the husbands are not allowed to accompany their wives (though, of course, they keep a watchful eye from outside the window), seeing a veiled lady totally lost, in the corridors, unable to read or understand the instructions, if I happened to be there, I’d spontaneously offer to help her out. Would I _any more?_ I think not, unless clearly asked to by her male guardian, if any. Whose loss is it, when one dastardly act by a misguided youth makes us all apprehensive of having anything to do with any Muslim, even of a humane gesture?
Let us remember, *Jesus also was tempted by Satan (wasn’t he?), in the desert, for 40 days: we Christians don’t think that takes anything away from Christ’s ministry, rather we admire him all the more for he overcame Satan. Shouldn’t Muslims be doing the same, for a transitory moment of their Prophet’s, for, where Jesus took more than a month, he at once subdued the Fiend, the arch-Adversary?*
All things said and done, *offence might yet be taken* because a house of pleasure, in the novel’s said dream sequences, is shown as renaming some of its girls after the wives of the Prophet: the Mothers of the Believers. *This may be seen as an exaggerated treatment of the subplot, and, personally, I would NOT have done it!* However, there’s storytelling justification for it: it is one of Mahound’s detractors who, seeing that the Prophet was by now indomitable, decides to cash in on his growing popularity; by giving his comfort-givers these pseudonyms he hopes to boost his falling business; this should be taken as a fictive over-interpretation of the historical fact that many pagan Arabs, including members of his own clan, the Quraysh, continued to plague the Prophet’s path with every stratagem they could think up. Though they did worse (like try to assassinate him) there’s no historical evidence that they ever took this specific measure imagined by Rushdie; but can it be counter-proven that no courtesan, no fille-de-joie, ever, in 1400 years, bore homonyms to the mothers of the believers?: those are just Arabic names, borne (like all names, in all cultures) by saints and sinners alike, as prevalent before Islam as after, and to this day. Again, *I repeat, I think Rushdie’s creative imagination ran away with him at this point; but I’d rather forgive him for fanciful overdrive than seek to kill him for blasphemy: I do the same for Nikos Kazantzakis, for re-elaborating, in his **_Last Temptation of Christ_** , the Passion of our Lord-&-Savior in a very defamatory way, one contrary to all our hallowed Christian tradition* (which is not the case with _The Satanic Verses_ , in as much as the tale is originally told in Islam’s own texts).
Last but not the least, Rushdie’s _Satanic Verses_ is a magnum opus; as a towering feat of imagination, in terms of its vast scope and mind-defying structure, second, perhaps, only to Bulgakov’s _Master & Margarita_ (cited by Rushdie himself as one of his literary models). It must be read, from cover to cover, to form any opinion about it. For or against. I do know some avid high-literature buffs who couldn’t stomach Bulgakov’s masterpiece; they surely won’t Rushdie’s. That’s fine, you don’t necessarily have to uphold a work-of-art.
One is free to denounce the book, even without reading it; even discourage his friends and acquaintances from buying it. That’s okay; that, too, is what democracy is all about. It is only the incitement to and infliction of an arbitrary death sentence that seems to nullify all the progress humanity has made since the end of the Inquisition, the abolition of slavery. Fyodor Dostoevsky’s _Crime & Punishment_ concludes with a long-drawn comparison between Napoleon and Muhammad: shall we now condemn Dostoevsky to death, posthumously? *The Prophet was, and remains, one of the giants of human history, one of the major shapers of mankind’s destinies; is it possible that, in speaking of man, writers and philosophers will never ever mention this great man, his times and what is known of him?*
It is to the honor of Great Britain that, despite Rushdie’s no-holds-bar criticism of her, she nurtured and knighted him; does it honor the Ummah that they want to physically eliminate an exceptional man of letters, one of their own, who, with his pen, has given voice to their cause in the press of peoples? Sir Salman, to-date, has more than 20 books to his credit, including essays, children’s stories, and miscellaneous non-fiction; shouldn’t his authorial status be grounded on his entire output instead of just a few 10s of pages amongst many 1000s? But if one is to be put on death-row for having once thought a thought (even ‘objectionable’), any man might as well be put there because he exists, simply because he was born.
I love your thoughts. I am not British but was a British subject for 200 years!
That Britain protected and honored Rushdie IS the lesson we have to take. During the convulsive fight for freedom, not a single English man or woman was hurt in India (Indira Gandhi is my authority). Society or individual must have and display the courage to face the truth and pursue values that promote flourishing of humanity. A society should be judged on the quality of its thoughts and the nobility of its deeds.
How many of us have time today to dig the truth? Are we not like fanatics when we act on imperfect or insufficient information? We pay a collective price for this attitude. Enlightenment is always knocking at the door. Whether you open the door or keep it closed is an individual's or society' choice.
The things we do in the name of God!
The event organizers should have put security guards to check the visitors thoroughly before letting them enter the premise , this is total negligence for such a world 🌎 renowned Author ✍️
Hey Barkha ..Please fix the audio
Look we know why Shashi is taking Rushdie’s side. Because if he doesn’t than he won’t be invited on BBC and Other Western media. Shame on you Sir
Please!
Shashi is using misguided person theory. study Islam, deen is a system not a real religion, the attackers of Salman Rushdie, Udaipur, Maharashtra are really victim of this deen.🛑 It turn an innocent believer a hater of other faith and act violently.🛑 Only way out is to make people exmuslims by teaching truth about this deen.🛑 Please listen exmuslim channels 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
Very sadly this young chap who was not even born when the Fatwa was declared on Mr. Rushdie, he has done great disservice to Muslim community, violence is not acceptable in any religion especially Islam.
Same as upper cast hindus say castophobia simmialrly Muslims do islamophobia..
Right wing supports upper cast hindus and Muslims support Muslims especially upper cast muslims
Joke....
Please study Islam, deen is a system not a rea religion, the attackers of Salman Rushdie, Udaipur, Maharashtra are really victim of this deen.🛑 It turn an innocent believer a hater of other faith and act violently.🛑 Only way out is to make people exmuslims by teaching truth about this deen.🛑 Please listen exmuslim channels 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
@@visitwave; It is a joke to worship a 1) MURDA, Ganapathi, created by katil Shiva, who beheaded his OWN son and replaced it with a large head of a slaughtered elephant for good luck and to remove life obstacles. Good luck, Vikram, and worship KATILS like Ram, who murdered Ravana and Khumbhkaran for Sita haran with the help of a flying monkey, 2) Hanuman that failed to pluck out a plant growing at the foot of a parvat, yet the monkey, Hanuman, broke apart the parvat, LOL. The monkey, Hanuman, evolved without wings, LOL, and is claimed to fly across Bharat to light a fire to Lanka to commit the world's first genocide. 3) murderous and kalpanic Durga with eight hands riding a lion, LOL. Krishna, popularly called 'makhan CHORE, would spend time lusting at the women bathing at the Yamuna ghats, Frequently hiding their clothes to lust longer at their wet, partially nude bodies like a pervert. Krishna encouraged and personally assisted in MASS MURDERING 100 Kaurava brothers to resolve their family feud over the inheritance. Facts lead to the truth. The truth matters. Satya Jayete.
Why doesn't Barkha not blame the Muslim extremists and to some extent sadly Muslim majority that stayed silent and thus encouraged the extremists to get their way
Salman Rushdie was not able to come to his land of birth. Will Barkha name those persons who were opposing him or keep on blaming all and sundry for this.
MF Hussain was also troubled a lot of hooliganism in this country. Don't act as if you care about freedom of speech, we are a regressive lot who just glory when others are effected.
The echo on Barkha’s side is most unnerving.
Never forget and never forgive..sar tan se juda sar tan se juda..
Let me educate you a bit about Sar than se juda cases in your scriptures.
Age old practices of human sacrifice in the Hindu scriptures. Shatapatha Brahmana 6.2.1:18 (Human sacrifice considered the best of the sacrifices, then comes a horse, Bull or Cow, Ram, Sheep etc). Padma purana Section 2, Brahma Kanda Chapter 12, Verse 6-22.
Mahabharat Book 9 Chapter 50 Human sacrifice. Agni purana Chapter 125 verse 49-50 "Sar than se juda".
@@siraajabdullah2926 we have to follow allahs scripture and Kill the infidels..
@@siraajabdullah2926 la ilahah ilalala
@@siraajabdullah2926 we have the make 10 children and populate the whole universe with muslim babies and make nannay mujahideen
@@siraajabdullah2926 allah who akbar
Mojo needs to enhance sound quality.
Pls define Free speech .Is different for writer ,politician and common man
Very well Tarooji All the best
Find out whether China accommodates and pay . Track
You can't shout FIRE in a crowded theater and people are injured, crushed, killed in the stampede. That person who shouted it has freedom of speech ???
Which is the civilised world @shashitharoor
Nupur Sharma is a brave lady.
Satirical Magical Realist piece regarding Salman Rushdie incident....
This is what my fellow Muslims should do when someone insults our great Nabi (SAW)?
I believe that when someone insults our Nabi (SAW) it is nothing but a test from Allah'tala.
Allah is testing us to ensure we maintain our composure, our restraint, our patience, our tolerance against those who degrade the image of our beloved Prophet (SAW).
Whenever we detect an insult, we should approach those who have no respect for our Nabi (SAW) and embrace them closely and warmly with compassion and humility.
We must do this to show how amazing Islam is - in that we persevere in the face of hate and criticism. We must love and respect those who hate our Prophet. These are the teachings. This is the Way.
When these evil people see what Muslims are, and what Islam teaches they will immediately abandon their own belief and accept Islam.
Our beautiful deen will grow faster than ever before. Alhmadulliah.
Allah will be pleased as we've passed the test and we will all enter Jannah inshAllah.
What is happening now is a failed test. After every insult our Muslim brothers and sisters go on a witch hunt against those who insult, with assaults, killings, bombings, stabbings, death threats, violence, anarchy and general mayhem. Even those who silently support these radical Muslims are failing the test. Those who were thinking of embracing Islam will now turn their backs on the greatest religion of Peace because of these extremists. This makes Allah'tala very angry and you will bring his curse and wrath upon you.
Once you fail the test there is no coming back. Jahanam (hell) is your final resting place where you shall abide therein forever.....
Well that book says such things for non Muslims, that's why they doin it
A bjp sarkar for about 15 more years will FIX this issue
not possible , if they couldn't do in 1400 years what can BJP do
lol.. modi didn't even say anything about the incident. he apologised for Nupur Sharma and removed her.. kashmiri pandits started fleeing valley once again this year after over 10 pandits killed.. bjp only targets powerless passerby or neighbor muslims and make them say jai shri ram...
Taking two steps back to strike again is a good thing.
If they only harass poor muslims, why do channels like this constantly harp on intolerance?
what about RSS nazis which you BJP never registered, so please one program on this, Modi and his gang looting Indian innocent people and godi media under modi IT cell, please one video on this,
When you have to resort to animal instinct and violence, it is a proof that you have completely lost the debate and we see LOT of violence from Islam of this kind. The only way Islam is able to defend its ideology is by heinous violence which further strengthens the opposition to Islam.
The Islamic world is sensitive to religion. Charlie Hedbo, a French magazine famous for its satire, was attacked twice and France had spoken in favour of freedom of speech.
17:30 Mr Tharoor admits that it is almost impossible to cotrol riots in India. It is the truth! Wonder why then, Mr Modi was expected to get the riot situation after the Godhra incident under immediate control. By Mr Tharoors own admission, the Rajasthan govt did not allow Mr Rushdie to come inspite of India being his country of birth because of the fear of mobs going berserk.
We don't want entry of single muslim in USA - #DonaldTrumph Say 🙏🏻🤔
I think his view sometimes true
This is not something wrong "sar tan se juda" this is the law of Islam... You people have to control your free speech...
Now dear spring, nobody stops Islamic nations to follow their laws in their countries but how do you expect non islamic states to go by Islamic laws over their own laws. All inhabitants of a country are required to follow the laws of land they live in. Don't the Indians of all faiths follow the laws of Muslim nations where they work in.
You people have to understand that world is not ruled by regressive laws. Please get yourself educated enough to have some positive thinking.
@@kuldipguleria2615 Islam will not bring spring but deadly winter for you. If you want to follow your own law then follow it but stay away from Islam and making fun of it. We know how to defend our religion.
Thanks
Nupur sharma is neither arrested nor attacked. She, in fact has made a statement inciting violence and created issues where her bosses had to fire her. So stop this right wing appeasement if you say you’re different or a journalist at all. This is becoming a gossip show
For what she should be arrested??
For some sort of so called blasphemy she does!! Those Owaisi brothers openly abuse Hindu gods, have you seen any kind of violence from Hindu community on that?How many murder of Muslims have been committed for supporting Akbar Uddin Owaisi? But till now there haven been 4 brutal murders commited on innocent Hindus just for supporting Nupur Sharma, by these radical Islamists.
Nupur Sharma is not a problem, the problem is the level of intolerance within the muslim community that can't even handle the basic criticism on their religion wheather it is Nupur or Salamn.
How convenient to mislead ppl into believing the piece of crap you wrote. Nupur's was a rebuttal to a communal hate monger who insulted Hindu deities for God's sake. Just the way I'm rebutting you.
Lakshmi.... You have made an irrresponsible statement which just shows the lack of understanding of the context of Ms Sharma‘s statement.
Jihadi mentality like yours is a threat to democracy and Free speech.. you are the fools who would blame a girl for rape because of wearing shorts !! Same mindset people..
Gaffar bhai Zandewalla Story the context of midnight children N Rushdie's assault violence the consequences of intolerant post colonial world*
banning like Sashi says is to avoid violence however we cannot condone >fatwa
Burqua Dutt will not name peaceful religion as she is married in peaceful community
Barkha,🛑 I like Shashi Tharoor, but on this topic he is not the right person.🛑 Please bring an exmuslim to talk,🛑 they are the right group to talk about this.🛑 Listen to them, Islam is not peace.🛑 At 20:36, again... ask an exmuslim, this guy is a the true Islam.🛑 Please think logically, did any government from Islamic Countries condemn the attack on Salman Rushdie?🛑 James Madison on Free Speech🛑 "The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable."🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
It is the aftermath of ndtv lovers
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
Is that statement true only of hinduism or do you include islam also? All such critics usually direct their criticism of religion at hinduism only. the Hindi movie PK is an example. No one dares criticise islam.
@@marutanray When one says "Religion" it includes all religions. You have to be quite dumb to think otherwise. But then, you have to be dumb. Your nationality dictates that you you would be dumb and biased.
Karl Marx?
@@kuresh2958 yes
Observe the care they took .. not using words like “terror act”, “fanatics “, “radicalised “ Islamists”.. tell openly to world that fanatic Islamist committed heinous act..Authors can criticise ( there are critics for all religions ) .. but only peaceful religion ( Islam ) is reacting by killing and be heading innocent people..