Shashi Tharoor on feeling "uncertain" about his future I Inside Out with Barkha Dutt
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Our New Podcast Series ‘Inside Out’ takes you to the heart of the person behind the persona, connects you to incredible stories of change, in conversations that are raw, intimate and real.
The questions that news headlines miss, the inner life and path breaking journeys of incredible people, some famous, some less so, but each with an amazing story to share and learn from.
Feel the Difference. On ‘Inside Out with Barkha Dutt’.
In our first episode, Barkha Dutt speaks to Shashi Tharoor in possibly his most personal conversation yet. From how he fought being called a murderer to which word he would pick to describe his present state of mind, this is a no holds barred one hour that you cannot miss.
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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:03 Introduction
1:04 - 3:19 Tharoor on what do Indians look like in the mirror
3:20 - 4:45 What shaped Tharoor's accent
4:46 - 8:06 Why does Shashi Tharoor uses Big Words?
8:07 - 9:22 Tharoor's college days at St Stephens
9:23 - 9:50 Tharoor teaches a new word
9:51 - 10:40 As a child, what did Shashi Tharoor got smacked for?
10:41 - 12:15 Tharoor on his parents
12:16 - 13:08 When Tharoor discovered his talent for acting
13:09 - 14:25 Tharoor's love for taking tests
14:26 - 15:24 When 'Best Science Student' opted to study Humanities
15:25 - 15:48 History Graduate Tharoor topped Delhi University & Cleared IIMs simultaneously
15:49 - 17:22 Tharoor's days at The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy
17:23 - 18:33 That one exam which Tharoor didn't top- "It was like death in the family'
18:34 - 20:40 Shashi Tharoor's twins and their unusual habit
20:41 - 29:18 Why Tharoor left behind his dream of joining the Indian Foreign Service (IFS)?
29:19 - 34:13 Tharoor's stint at the United Nations
34:14 - 38:00 When Shashi Tharoor was called an "Israeli Agent"
38:01 - 40:38 Shashi Tharoor opens up on Sunanda Pushkar's death
40:39 - 41:05 When Tharoor's mother was treated like "mother of a murderer"
41:06 - 42:55 Coping up after losing Sunanda
42:56 - 45:12 Backstory of Tharoor's iconic speech at the Oxford Union
45:13 - 48:08 How Tharoor dealt with controversy around Sunanda's death
48:09 - 48:23 Is Shashi Tharoor still romantic in his 60s?
48:24 - 51:37 What kind of liberalism Shashi Tharoor identifies with?
51:38 - 53:29 One thing that Shashi Tharoor regrets
53:30 - 54:54 Biggest failure of Tharoor's life
54:55 - 55:44 One word that best describes Tharoor's current state of mind
55:45 - 57:23 Will Shashi Tharoor leave Congress?
57:24 - 58:38 Is Tharoor considering leaving politics?
58:39 - 58:51 Credits
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No matter what your opinion of him, Tharoor comes across as a super bright, compassionate and honest individual. There is still hope, he could lead India back to decency and tolerance some day.
Terrific podcast debut Barkha.. looking forward to more!
"Comes across" is clearly a subjective evaluation. You'd hold similar favourable view of anyone good looking, English speaking, and holds opinion aligned with your community interests,
@@val-schaeffer1117 You "come across" as a small, bigoted, slow individual. And that's a very objective evaluation! 😀
@@sarahkumkumapoovu Aww diddum. Triggered rice bag. Learn to distinguish between fact and opinion. Fact is objective, opinion (like your comment) is subjective, and driven by your own community interests. Move to Portugal, if you do not like India.
India is more than decent today. We don't need more decency.
@@mlg1279 They wants to subvert India.
"the unexamined life is not worth living" ... that struck a chord for me. amazing interview.
Shashi Tharoor's worldview thoroughly and accurately represents what the founding fathers of India envisioned - 'jio aur jeene do'.
EXCELLENT Slogan " jio aur jeene do " - I WISH it COULD Become the Guiding CREDO of Every Indian VOTER
Such a pleasure to listen to Shashi Tharoor, responding to every single question in his typical way... bright, spontaneous, thoughtful and humorous whenever required
Lucky to have this gem of a person in the glorious Congress Party
Communicating will always remain the best tool in forging relationships and he's equipped with this skill in the best possible way
It's always a pleasure to hear Mr. Shashi Tharoor
it improves our english...lol
Great guest choice. Sad such a talented and capable statesman has to feel uncertain. This shows how grave the problems of this country are.
EXCELLENT Point ! I think the LAST Real "Statesman" that India sired was Atal JI
It shows the condition of con-gress
Mr Tharoor is honest & has integrity that is rare in politics..
So nice to hear what Mr. Tharoor is all about as a person and his story is so relatable… thanks for doing this interview ❤️ it’s inspiring for sure n so relatable… glad to have learnt what his journey has been like:)
Tharoor will not be corrupt and hooddwink the nation
Enjoyed each and every bit of this this Podcast!
What an amazing discussion with some unheard stories about Dr Tharoor.
I have huge amount of respect for Dr Tharoor. And what else can I say, except Be the way you're and keep giving the RIGHT and PERFECT REPLIES TO THOSE WHO POKE YOU UNNECESSARILY...
He is a inalienable part of our literary Society. Your works inspire us a lot sir. Hats off to you.
To reach there where Mr Shashi is needs a clear vision, family support, strong mind, dedication and undoubtedly lot of hard work besides being born intelligent.
Shashi Tharoor's clear conscience, his humanity, his discipline have held him in good stead during that time of torment when his political opponents didn't spare any effort to harass him day in and day out for a very long period.
Its really well said when #ST said you need to have your own regrets which comes only if you think and DO try things in your life. Most of us just breath. Living is something more than that. Great to have this podcast.
Loved the way #BD apologized for last two question. Very sweet n cute to accept her temptation.
Pity, he couldn't win the election for the President of Congress party. He would make a splendid PM if he gets a chance.
He had been MP for just 14 years only. He didn't have spent much time in politics.
Hopefully he might become CM of Kerala
@Shivkumar Indian mass doesn't like erudite person, unfortunately.
@@santanukganguli6491there is a difference between being erudite and being an able politician. There are lot of erudite people in society. In politics there is a lot of compromise that has to be made. So even if one has good intentions the compromise and compulsions of practical decision making as a leader supersedes everything. Shashi is a nice man but not cut for the top job
@@roshnijayadas1003 i want communists kicked out from India
Tharoor is a goddamn credit to Indian politics and political discourse. What a dignified man.
Show ended with a rather grim note with the thought of Tharoor leaving politics. I would be okay with it only if his next career leap is commentating on test matches.
Yes as mentioned it is such a pleasure listening to Shashi Tharoor, the way he communicates and narrates. But I obsolutely love Barkha Dutt in how she moderates and interviews in the highest standard with with fairness, simplicity and accuracy so as to make everybody understand as a journalist. My highest appreciation and admiration to both Shashi and Barkha.
Good One and I WONDER How the HONOURABLE and GREAT Arnab Goswami Sir will have conducted this interview 😁. Dr Tharoor will have had a Heart Attack probably 😆
Never seen barkha so 'dolled up'. Must be for Tharoor ji ;)
raat baaki.. baat baaki.. don't quite blame her
Two wise, smart people with beautiful human minds discussing - always a pleasure to watch. 👍
Both are crooked.
I am sure you are also equally wise, sir.
What a wonderful conversation. Thanks Barkha
Barkha Dutt so knows how to conduct a brilliant interview ! Asking just the right questions to allow the personality to open up, without overshadowing the interview, I love this marvellous lady !
yes she is brilliant ...she know how to kill our own people by reckless selfish reporting in 26/11 and got away freely with it..
lol, shes one bigoted woman
What a joke. 😂😂
Tharoor is such a pleasure to listen and learn. It was a brillant interview
Sashi Tharoor is no doubt a great intellectual and his books are loved and respected by all.
This is absolutely delightful❤️ Makes my heart so happy to hear these two brilliant minds having this wonderful conversation❤️
Thank you😘❤️
Excellent interview. Power to both!!
He is so handsome, charismatic, so well articulated.... Nice to watch him
Loved this interaction, and the content.
What a delightful, enriching experience to listen to Dr Shashi Tharoor! More power to you Dr Tharoor.
Shashi Tharoor is certainly the brightest politician we have in the country. Unfortunate that his services are not fully utilized.
When a handsome man & beautiful lady meets it creates chemistry & comfort to people around, that is what this interview is all about. A historian was asked about his own history in a very wonderful way. "When a shark bite you don't let it bleed" It is probably going to be the best quote for me in the year 2023. Hats off to ever graceful madam Barka & ever charming
sir Shashi❤️
Great interview. All the best Shashi Taroor - you are one of a kind!
Very pleasant interview. Thanks to both of you.
Your smile was one of the best elements of this conversation mam!
I fucking love this man...have a huge man crush on him...what a personality....legend.
Very insightful conversation from the most genius person from Indian politics. Good to see this. Great job done by Ms. Barkha
He should be the prime minister candidate from Congress
Such a wonderful interview.
A smooth and open conversation!! Well done Barkha.
The student in US whose passport was impounded was Prof Anand Kumar. The Amb was BKN.
Lovely conversation
I admire him a lot. Lots of love and greetings to him from Pakistan❤️❤️❤️
Dr Shashi, we are 'certain' that you will continue your statesmanship by action, speeh and writing, and the later is much powerful. Also you are in the blessed motherland land who birthed great writers, diplomats, kings and the people who set green and white revolution into motion. Am proud to write here that I grew-up with your column 'Kalyanikutti's Kerala'.
Such a wonderful human being ! God bless him ! I love the way he said - read ! A habit we definitely need to develop a looooooot ! 🤓It's very interesting how he chose the particular word 'Read', it's the first word of revelation that descended upon the Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him from God. For a person who truly knows how to read correctly, will know how to think correctly, and will not develop the herd mentality.
Always a pleasure listening Dr Shashi Tharoor
Excellent conversation 🎉Thanku Barkha for having Mr Tharoor in your podcast.Thoroughly enjoyed watching this great rendezvous with such a great visionary politician of our country 🇮🇳✨
Its a treat to listen to Shashi Tharoor ji. I am his hard core admirer. What a pleasant personality.
Most of the wicked mindedness famous people are / were jealous of excellent looking couples. They both looked dangerously excellent.
Both are traitors and Hindu-haters. Shame on them.
It is a tragedy to lose a wife and a double tragedy when a husband is being questioned about her death and is suspected to be the culprit.
He has been acquitted of all the charges
It is always a pleasure to listen to Dr. Tharoor.
Tharoor is the most practical individual we have in public service. No cliches, no bs - the guy speaks like anyone we know in our daily lives (no reference to his vocabulary). How the Congress sidestepped him for leadership is beyond logic.
I knew the word floccinaucinihilipilification while I was in high-school in 1978. I learnt the meaning of the word as I was in the quiz team. Not only I but many in quiz circuit knew
Bravo Shashi Tharoor for being heartwarmingly honest and sincere about your personal regrets - rare in public personalities. That’s true humility and Dan Tharoor my first boss at RD would have been proud with it. 👍This man deserves a second chance in public life in an official capacity as a minister - maybe in education - would do the right thing by young people.
No he does not!! He goes overseas and scream against the head of state! England would have sent his and papus go the gallows?
Excellent interview Barkha.
Can't help but be enormously impressed by Dr.Tharoor. Really hoping to see him as the head of the INC and much more importantly the PM of the country.
Congress has gone left of the left they can't i love this guy but that's the truth
Shashi Tharoor is unlike any other Indian politician every in the history of independent India, he is sauve, dignified, educated, refined, brilliant, polished, a genius mind like no other. If only the man leading the nation was even 5 to 10 % of Shashi Tharoor what a difference it would have made on the world stage 👍👌🙏💐🇮🇳😊🥰, OMG Shashi went to campion school that's where my Sis went.
BC he is not a politician at heart, he is still a diplomat
@@mgsa5722 lol.....He is a playboy......Indian version of Casanova 😂
Dignified? Lol. Read book by Sunanda Mehta.
I had a great time watching this Interview :)
Politics is not for decent people, I am glad that he is not messed up by his past traumatic experiences in life. A brilliant & honest human being, he should concentrate😊 on writing and public speaking, I think the younger generation could learn life’s few valuable lessons from this amazing man.
Is there an Episode 2: Can someone please share the link to that podcast?
Love to listen to Dr.Tharoor..great personality ...
Congress needs Shashi Tharoor at the topmost if they want to b back in power!
I don't think con-gress will be back anytime in the foreseeable future
@@mlg1279 True! At least not as long as they have RG at the top
Very interesting Bharka, especially your role in the interview. Normal Sashi Tharoor takes all the attention because of his oratory skills, but you were extremely prepared and professional. Good luck
Though I am 23 years old but I have got a huge crush on Shashi Tharoor. His personality is incredible.❤️❤️
In politics, the best doesn't always win. However, I wish to see him as the prime minister of India someday.
great podcast 👍🏻
Fascinating.
I copied this passage from a BBC news article and am pasting it below, as for once, it seems to better Tharoor's expression when he talks about coping with the sad Sunanda incident
"Defeat is often attended by a kind of self-conscious dignity that is," as Wolfgang Schivelbusch wrote in “The Culture of Defeat,” “as inaccessible to the victor … as the kingdom of heaven is to the rich man.” The result can be a sense of moral superiority, often attended by a process of purification.
Make Shashi as main leader for the nation
What? Why? Ended so quickly! This was so interesting!
Good to see One Of India's FINEST TV Journos move to OTT - Like MANY of her peers
What a brilliant man👏👏👏
I'm a die heart fan of Mr.Shashi Tharoor ji
A true intellectual and inspiration for many. Thanks for sharing the knowledge, Shashi.
Your Canadian-Pakistani fan 🙂
Admirable person by all across the society. Unfortunately he is not in the frontline politics. People miss him there.
Barkha looks nice ., hair style suits her ., better than short hair 😊
Indians must go like that of a system similar to that of European Union so that regional aspirations are addressed.
Barkha madam, please you have to write your own memoir and publish it, in hardback as well as Kindle Edition Amazon India, please madam! Why? Because no any other barkha is available on this planet Earth! 🌎🌍
To face all this you need terrific self esteem
Shashi Tharoor is irreplaceable!
Is Shashi Tharoor your biological father? 😂
@@Maverick-zo4kc Why are you using the relational word to define anything worth or worthless? Shashi is a friend. I never look on him as a biological father or step father or adopted father or neighbour father or guardian or any other relational intentions behind it. Can you clarify that what kind of things you recieve after asking this rude and hectic question. Have you learnt from your school or college studies, for blackmailing the unknown one like asking kind of question from the people like you. The people like you never ever able to ask anything worth and add a value in the knowledge of questioner and answergiver. Good Luck because no one ask the question like you ask!
@@Maverick-zo4kc what have you got against fathers.
The most elegant politician of our times....he can be a full time author or an academic as well.
Super views Mr Tharoor
Sashi is a blessing to India..!
King.. Queen combination
Nice
Really nice
Mr. Tharoor, you mentioned about being able to divorce your first wife, and seemed to be alluding to your Western influence for the same. People have their own reasons to divorce or stay married, I wouldn't comment on that, because everyone's situation is different. But you seemed to look down upon the low divorce rate in India. In general, I believe a low divorce rate has the advantage of India having a lower rate of loneliness unlike in the west, a more resolve to make the marriage work unlike in the west.
I grew up watching reruns of Bandini on Doordarshan, and some movies where the wife stays in the marriage even when the husband treats her badly. There is this concept of pati parmeshwar, and my wife says these days why not patni parmeshwar to which I say why not. Because, if you think of it, at the root of it, the minute one says parmeshwar, one brings in a divinity to the relationship. After that, it does not matter if it is pati or patni as the parmeshwar. So, there are positive aspects of the low divorce rate in India. After all, what are the marriage vows.. in sickness and in health, in good times and bad times. They are very similar in the East and the West. I believe the Indians are keeping their marriage vows more than the Westerners.
Anyway, always fascinating to listen to you. Keep up the good work. And thank you too Barkha ji/ma'am.
Shashi Tharoor is brilliant, deserves to be PM😊
English Will Always Dominate Over Vernacular Languages. 👍
Superb
Barka, please do a comparative study of Rahul & Shashi as future PM of India.
It’s very easy to hate Dr Shashi Tharoor and the answer is very simple-apart from his good looks even at this age why is he so brilliant in every field of knowledge? Why does he speak such good English -has unimaginable vocabulary many which even the English speaking people have to look up in the Dictionary for the meaning? He even speaks Bangla so sweetly which even the Bengali speaking people cannot. Why does he write so well, speak so well, never gets angry, is so extremely polite-has all the qualities of a great gentleman which is very rare in these days? Why is he so forgiving, so unbelievably courteous, respectful, well behaved? Nothing and no one can make him angry not even his adversaries.
Why is he such a great scholar, a famous author? So naturally if I do not have these qualities I will try to malign and belittle him in any way possible. But at the end of the day nobody can keep the sun from shining, not even the darkest of clouds or the night sky. And that morning sun - Dr Tharoor -will very soon shine in his true light 🙏🙏🙏🌕🌕🌕
Barkha is looking lovely with long hairs
Tharoor 😍
@28:00 Indian ambassador to the United States was Triloki Nath Kaul.
I wish some day we have more politicians like Shashi representing us as policy makers.
Looking dapper in pink
Besides presentable polite kool
Here’s a man who stands out with his transparency 😢& of-course outstanding brilliance and who apparently had some bad karma (past life issues )but a rose is a rose by whatever name …….he is a delight and an angel who I think aught to play a much larger role for example be the impetus to the UN into a more proactive role in making a world a better place or else it may be catapulted into irreversible dilemmas …. for this he would have to reinvent into a new avatar !
Such a great politician deserves to be the PM of India❤Sidelining such great charismatic leaders like Tharoor is the main reason for Congress demise😢
Floxynoxynihilibilification is a word many of us who went to high school in the late 60s are familar with.
It was Mr. Manmohan Singh found him as an intelligent politician and included in his Cabinet. Today's way of rule in Centre and the way Mr. Manmohan Singh and his colleagues done back to 10 years reveal the rough-shod of administration.
He is overqualified to be in any indian political party....
Ideal jodi
The problem with the intelligent leaders like Shashi Tharoor is that they are brought up and are easily swayed by western secular values. Nations led by these intellectuals lose contact with the real world of people. Lebanon got carried away by secular human values and lost its roots, Its culture and identity from a tolerant westernised nation to a conservative Muslim nation. This changed the day Muslims had majority. You give an inch and you will lose it all. Your identity, culture and beliefs are flexible but those who will benefit from these; have their beliefs cast in concrete and they are stuck with the words of their God. Given less than half a chance, they will impose their beliefs.. When they will come to power, you will not have any room for fine debates and intellectual niceness. The west is already discovering this where Halal, head scarfs, love jehad and honour killings have been imposed by a relatively small Muslim population. The tragedy is, citizens from the Muslim nations escape to free western nations and in few years revert back and want to thrive in male dominated comfort of their medieval beliefs. Indian liberal secularists are blind to this and therein lie our fault lines which can perish our identity.