I think Jaz was really depressed when he and the band made BTATS (which is actually a really great album, and people are only realizing it now). Judging from its content and this interview. His energy is totally different from the years before and after it. I don't think he could've made it in any other state.
I came to it late. I wasn't a fan when I first heard it (Pre-Kimsey remaster) but I adjusted my expectations and have grown to love it. I think the new mix is superior, and yes, I agree with the depressed comment, It's such a melancholic album.
A little more than the interviewer bargained for I imagine. He's trying to ask his dippy '80s VJ questions and Jaz is coming back with all of this well-articulated but heavy, paranoid, nihilistic shit.
@@janicelehane6373 he's exactly 4 years and 2 days older , we are both old now, I've had my fun, everyone gets old , I hope that's not you in that wee picture .
@@keithrobertson5110 that is me in the picture, taken about 6 years ago. Never bothered updating but I'm now 43. Killing joke are one of my faves, love jazz, super smart and talented if not very quirky to say the least. I'm from that era of souisixe and the banshees , sisters of mercy and those kind of bands!!!!!!!
Brighter than a Thousands Suns was also about the lyrics.... and it was brilliant in another way.... listen to Rubicon or Brighter than a Thousand Suns... touches on all the ideas that the band believes in....its just a little softer touch of Killing Joke on some songs but well done all the same!!.. better than most shit u hear on any radio station anywhere in the world anyway>>>
What a brilliant snippet. Thank you! Though much maligned, I feel that "Brighter than a thousand Suns", the recording of which was largely completed during the year from which this interview originates, is perhaps Killing Joke's strongest album lyrically. Jaz' texts on that LP are poetic, beautiful, deep and metaphysical, with layers of meaning. They also hint at allusions to Nietzsche, Crowley, Mishima, not to mention the writers of classical antiquity. "Brighter than a thousand Suns" feels almost as if it is the most honest, most profound of all KJ records in terms of the words that it contains. The lyrical quintessence of Killing Joke, if one wishes to phrase it that way.
At the time of this interview, i think we were 2 minutes from midnight on the nuclear clock. Now we're 100 seconds away. The closest to midnight ever recorded.
BTATS is my favourite album of all time, it's up there with Blackwater Park by Opeth, Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, NTB by the Sex Pistols, Wiseblood by Corrosion of Conformity and Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division.
I liked the older stuff and was disappointed by Brighter than... at the time it came out. Thankfully Killing Joke regained new Power with Extremities...I think every band has highs and lows in their career. I still love their music. Pylon is great.
One day the earth will end and Jaz will say 'I told you so' every year since 78 'I told you so' Love the 'Joke' but I wouldn't take a racing tip off of Jaz. 😂
He looks like he was shy here. He’s not looking up or at the person he’s talking to. Maybe it’s cultural thing, because in the US it’s better to look at the person while you’re talking to them. I do know some cultures find it disrespectful.
Hard to watch. You can tell he very well knows they lost their edge and went pop. I don't blame him. It's a business as well as an art-form. But it's depressing to see his face at the questions.
They had one major success... that's not going pop yet. Listen to what they wrote from there on till today. Can't hear much pop in that. They one of the very few bands who never sold out in spite of that one success. Great, fascinating man this Chas.
@Jeff Baker I agree. There are great pop music but they are no longer present in mainstream as they were in 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. Now almost every song you hear on popular radios today are by lazy people who lacks creativity and who thereforce relies on using softwares that generates beats or other people to create music for them rather than doing it by themselves manually like one direction, justin bieber and Kenya west. I used to follow todays meainstream music untill 2013 when i grew tired of it because many new songs started to sound too similar too each other and that goes with the singing so i went back listening to pop music from 70s, 80s and 90s including a little early 2000s. Im one of those who dont like to stick to only one genre and wants to listen to others genres.
´Yeah , we are snorting ´night time` ,it´s a good feeling indeed ,you should try it at this level ... seriously - ´Snort what though wilt , shall chop the line of the law ` . Yeah , Jaz all fukked up in this interview , basically saying jack : the period between ´Night time` and ´Extremeties, dirt and other repressed emotions` was pretty dismal . Thank Martin Atkins for having revitalized this band .
@@CBGB_1977 I can't imagine how Martin Atkins and Jaz were able to sit at the same table together for 5 minutes let alone make an amazing album and tour together.
It's weird how I was so fanatic about them, but Brighter than a Thousand Suns lost me for quite a while. That album sucked compared to Nighttime. Brighter was too far from the roots. Nighttime struck the perfect balance between industrial punk and commercial craft. They had good songs later, but Brighter was a big misstep, and smelled of hubris, too. It's too bad, but prob inevitable.
I'm not a fan of Brighter... either. I love their early post punk stuff and their 90s resurgence but for me Nighttime is their finest hour. Its the closest they ever came to out and out pop. But such classy, intelligent pop.
foto21com I agree with you. "Brighter" was the worst album flat. Given the amount of music KJ has put out over the years and the scope of musical styles they have covered incl all the re mixes and versions etc. They were bound to produce a "dud" or 2 and yeah maybe it was inevitable
+foto21com Disagree! Brighter is the gem of the KJ catalog. Different, yes....but some of the best compositions and definitely the best lyrics of their career! It's still my favorite of theirs, just ahead of Extremities and Pandemonium.
Bradley Synthpop While I can appreciate your opinion & your taste here, it is yours to enjoy after all. But to me 'Brighter" was divergent from the KJ I know & love. I was introduced to them with the "Red" EP , followed by their debut album, "Killing Joke" & then "What's THIS for?" Revelations...and so forth. What I'm saying is that, the gritty, Poisonous, Damn NATION sound I understand as the signature sound & style w Geordie [Fucking] Walker's Toxic metallic guitar, Coleman screaming his FUCKING teeth out with "Hitting" Socio/Political Quasi Sarcasm - WAS the ART of K.J... to deviate from that is to venture into terrain that is NOT KJ, as I know and understand them - BUT It's OK. I liked "Birds of a Feather"...They seemed to try another rout..a Sell out? but failed. They lost a lot of their following with 'Brighter"..and HAD to return to what they DO BEST.. Outside the Genres of Techno and Hard dubplate / Rock Reggae...KJ ARE my favourite band.
Personally, my favorites of theirs are Night Time, Brighter, Outside the Gate, and Hosannas from the Basements of hell. Of course, Brighter was much different from their other albums, with a lot more gothic rock influences and new wave as well...I don't agree that they sold out on Brighter, but I respect your opinion.
I could listen to Jaz talk all day.
Listen to Courtauld Talks. Shit will blow your mind.
God, i love him so much
I love Jaz and KJ so much. 💗 Their music makes my spirit soar...)
Nice when you meet the man as a teenager and tells you the real deal😂😂
I like to listen to Jaz Coleman ‘s interviews 😊
I think Jaz was really depressed when he and the band made BTATS (which is actually a really great album, and people are only realizing it now). Judging from its content and this interview. His energy is totally different from the years before and after it. I don't think he could've made it in any other state.
The CD had more tracks than the vinyl. But yes, it was an absolute masterpiece.
Totally agree with you.
I came to it late. I wasn't a fan when I first heard it (Pre-Kimsey remaster) but I adjusted my expectations and have grown to love it. I think the new mix is superior, and yes, I agree with the depressed comment, It's such a melancholic album.
This man is *"Brighter than a thousand suns"*
*;P*
A little more than the interviewer bargained for I imagine. He's trying to ask his dippy '80s VJ questions and Jaz is coming back with all of this well-articulated but heavy, paranoid, nihilistic shit.
Love KJ interviews. They are all clued up and articulate. Never try to shock in interviews and let music do the talking.
Genius; they all have low patches. It goes with the territory.
Christ he is sooooo gorgeous
Handsome my God I'm doing alright I can tell you.ha ha .
@@keithrobertson5110 lol, well I'm sure you're gorgeous too!!!!!!
@@janicelehane6373 he's exactly 4 years and 2 days older , we are both old now, I've had my fun, everyone gets old , I hope that's not you in that wee picture .
@@keithrobertson5110 that is me in the picture, taken about 6 years ago. Never bothered updating but I'm now 43. Killing joke are one of my faves, love jazz, super smart and talented if not very quirky to say the least. I'm from that era of souisixe and the banshees , sisters of mercy and those kind of bands!!!!!!!
@@janicelehane6373 you've got your dates all wrong, I bought hong Kong Garden in 1979 so that makes you a new born baby .
Brighter than a Thousands Suns was also about the lyrics.... and it was brilliant in another way.... listen to Rubicon or Brighter than a Thousand Suns... touches on all the ideas that the band believes in....its just a little softer touch of Killing Joke on some songs but well done all the same!!.. better than most shit u hear on any radio station anywhere in the world anyway>>>
my favorite album
What a brilliant snippet. Thank you! Though much maligned, I feel that "Brighter than a thousand Suns", the recording of which was largely completed during the year from which this interview originates, is perhaps Killing Joke's strongest album lyrically. Jaz' texts on that LP are poetic, beautiful, deep and metaphysical, with layers of meaning. They also hint at allusions to Nietzsche, Crowley, Mishima, not to mention the writers of classical antiquity. "Brighter than a thousand Suns" feels almost as if it is the most honest, most profound of all KJ records in terms of the words that it contains. The lyrical quintessence of Killing Joke, if one wishes to phrase it that way.
At the time of this interview, i think we were 2 minutes from midnight on the nuclear clock. Now we're 100 seconds away. The closest to midnight ever recorded.
1:45 Music for pleasure, its not music no more
BTATS is my favourite album of all time, it's up there with Blackwater Park by Opeth, Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, NTB by the Sex Pistols, Wiseblood by Corrosion of Conformity and Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division.
Wow, you'd choose wiseblood rather than blind, interesting :)
He needed a cup of tea here
But Luv him interesting bloke 👍🪐🌌
BTATS was one of their best albums along with Night-time and NEAVRE
Nice hair. B.A Robertson
Once known as a Jewfro
Haha. So true. His 'do' looks great either really short or really long - anything else is total BA Robertson 70s coiffure.
I liked the older stuff and was disappointed by Brighter than... at the time it came out. Thankfully Killing Joke regained new Power with Extremities...I think every band has highs and lows in their career. I still love their music. Pylon is great.
As a new fan, Brighter was my gateway into their music.
Love killing Joke ❤
Damn.... He was almost as confusing as Ozzy that day! Lol
Ozzy and Jazz are polls apart dude there oil and water
Fucking awesome!
One day the earth will end and Jaz will say 'I told you so' every year since 78 'I told you so' Love the 'Joke' but I wouldn't take a racing tip off of Jaz. 😂
Good clip. And Yeah, he does look like B.A. Robertson
Now he looks like the guy in Indiana Jones that tore the guys heart out
yes he was here in new zealand, think he lived on waiheke island
THE TRUTH EXPAND
He finds something to eat around his right ear & sneakily puts it in his mouth at the start of this. He is horrid. I like him.
Hahaha!!!
OMG..hilarious!
He doesn't dance around the topic that's on his mind.
Not then, and not now!
its a new zealand interview i remember when it was viewed I think he lived in wihiki island for a while and married a nz girl
jaz looks like guy picciotto.
He looks like he was shy here. He’s not looking up or at the person he’s talking to. Maybe it’s cultural thing, because in the US it’s better to look at the person while you’re talking to them. I do know some cultures find it disrespectful.
Bs.
Hard to watch. You can tell he very well knows they lost their edge and went pop. I don't blame him. It's a business as well as an art-form. But it's depressing to see his face at the questions.
They had one major success... that's not going pop yet. Listen to what they wrote from there on till today. Can't hear much pop in that. They one of the very few bands who never sold out in spite of that one success.
Great, fascinating man this Chas.
Bullshit!
Did you watch them live 1985 & 1986. I did. They didnt go pop however Brighter than 1000 Suns the mix was llightweight.
Doctor Feelfunny I wish everyone was able to go pop like them with this album.
@Jeff Baker I agree. There are great pop music but they are no longer present in mainstream as they were in 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.
Now almost every song you hear on popular radios today are by lazy people who lacks creativity and who thereforce relies on using softwares that generates beats or other people to create music for them rather than doing it by themselves manually like one direction, justin bieber and Kenya west.
I used to follow todays meainstream music untill 2013 when i grew tired of it because many new songs started to sound too similar too each other and that goes with the singing so i went back listening to pop music from 70s, 80s and 90s including a little early 2000s.
Im one of those who dont like to stick to only one genre and wants to listen to others genres.
New Zilland, broo!
Chur bro
Mark Everton is his name. His career is still going strong
´Yeah , we are snorting ´night time` ,it´s a good feeling indeed ,you should try it at this level ... seriously - ´Snort what though wilt , shall chop the line of the law ` .
Yeah , Jaz all fukked up in this interview , basically saying jack : the period between ´Night time` and ´Extremeties, dirt and other repressed emotions` was pretty dismal . Thank Martin Atkins for having revitalized this band .
Delhi Delirium Martin is a friend of mine. Great guy!
@@CBGB_1977 I can't imagine how Martin Atkins and Jaz were able to sit at the same table together for 5 minutes let alone make an amazing album and tour together.
The Sad Part is we are now 90 seconds to Midnight we are closer to Nuclear War now more than Ever!! 2024!! ❤❤❤ Love KJ!!
Doesn't half look like Mark Burgess
More BA Robertson I think.
yer welcome nerdvana for all yer riffs ,, boc killing joke cheap trick pixies
they stole it off of The Damned tho
It's weird how I was so fanatic about them, but Brighter than a Thousand Suns lost me for quite a while. That album sucked compared to Nighttime. Brighter was too far from the roots. Nighttime struck the perfect balance between industrial punk and commercial craft. They had good songs later, but Brighter was a big misstep, and smelled of hubris, too. It's too bad, but prob inevitable.
I'm not a fan of Brighter... either. I love their early post punk stuff and their 90s resurgence but for me Nighttime is their finest hour. Its the closest they ever came to out and out pop. But such classy, intelligent pop.
foto21com I agree with you. "Brighter" was the worst album flat. Given the amount of music KJ has put out over the years and the scope of musical styles they have covered incl all the re mixes and versions etc. They were bound to produce a "dud" or 2 and yeah maybe it was inevitable
+foto21com Disagree! Brighter is the gem of the KJ catalog. Different, yes....but some of the best compositions and definitely the best lyrics of their career! It's still my favorite of theirs, just ahead of Extremities and Pandemonium.
Bradley Synthpop While I can appreciate your opinion & your taste here, it is yours to enjoy after all. But to me 'Brighter" was divergent from the KJ I know & love. I was introduced to them with the "Red" EP , followed by their debut album, "Killing Joke" & then "What's THIS for?" Revelations...and so forth. What I'm saying is that, the gritty, Poisonous, Damn NATION sound I understand as the signature sound & style w Geordie [Fucking] Walker's Toxic metallic guitar, Coleman screaming his FUCKING teeth out with "Hitting" Socio/Political Quasi Sarcasm - WAS the ART of K.J... to deviate from that is to venture into terrain that is NOT KJ, as I know and understand them - BUT It's OK. I liked "Birds of a Feather"...They seemed to try another rout..a Sell out? but failed. They lost a lot of their following with 'Brighter"..and HAD to return to what they DO BEST.. Outside the Genres of Techno and Hard dubplate / Rock Reggae...KJ ARE my favourite band.
Personally, my favorites of theirs are Night Time, Brighter, Outside the Gate, and Hosannas from the Basements of hell. Of course, Brighter was much different from their other albums, with a lot more gothic rock influences and new wave as well...I don't agree that they sold out on Brighter, but I respect your opinion.
BTATS was one of their best albums along with Night-time and NEAVRE