4464 Bittern vs 60163 Tornado 90mph runs comparison

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  • Опубліковано 19 січ 2025

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  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Рік тому +4

    News had come saying that they are about to start the overhaul on bittern the A4 loco and they are taking the engine to the NYMR so that the overhaul will commence on her

  • @tonetonic2013
    @tonetonic2013 6 місяців тому +2

    Bittern seem smooth and more comfortable.

  • @nigelmitchell351
    @nigelmitchell351 3 роки тому

    Passing with the chime on....just beautiful.!

  • @terry141186
    @terry141186 6 років тому +8

    Tornados break down was not the speed there was an issue with her lubrication on the middle cylinder which caused it to partially seize and wreck the combination lever. Something to do with oil viscosity I hear.

    • @jules46443
      @jules46443  6 років тому +1

      Yeah, I already knew it was the speed, the union link broke as well

  • @maxiepax01
    @maxiepax01 6 років тому +11

    Well, Bittern basically wins by default. Bittern did several runs at 90mph up and down the ECML and was fine, Tornado started one and badly broke itself doing it.

    • @MarcABrown-tt1fp
      @MarcABrown-tt1fp 5 років тому +5

      Russell Butler
      The oil was too thick I heard.

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 5 років тому +5

      The A1s in service rarely got above the mid-90s - and as we all know, the A4s ran into the 100s pretty regularly. Not forgetting the greatest A4 run of all - 27th September 1935 - and Silver Link's phenomenal performance 'straight out of the box'...

    • @Dwainpipe21
      @Dwainpipe21 4 роки тому +1

      Tornado look like it's working far harder to do 90 than bittern .

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 4 роки тому +4

      @@Dwainpipe21 lack of streamlining

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 4 роки тому +1

      Even 'on period' the A1s were never regarded as 'high speed' locomotives. Heavy expresses were their forte; the high-speed stuff was the preserve of the A4s (and A3s after gaining double-Kylchaps and Wittes.

  • @thomasfan5298
    @thomasfan5298 3 роки тому +2

    2:05 ghost train

  • @Maurice_Moss
    @Maurice_Moss 4 роки тому +7

    Does Tornado still run at 90mph on the mainline? Or 75 like the other Pacifics?

    • @jules46443
      @jules46443  4 роки тому +7

      Tornado hasn't run at 90MPH since this run unfortunately but keep an eye out from the A1 steam trust as I'm sure they'll be the first to announce if it will again

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 3 роки тому +1

      @@jules46443 hopefully we see another pop at it and other locos that are capeable of hitting 90 will be able to in the future.

  • @Discontinued226
    @Discontinued226 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly both seem very good 😮✨
    But bittern takes the cake 🍰, She’s an A4 so it’s basically easy for her
    Don’t get me wrong tornado’s run is also impressive but she soon had trouble

  • @callum110597
    @callum110597 6 років тому +4

    Whoa, when they're so far away, they don't look like they're going that fast.

    • @jules46443
      @jules46443  6 років тому +5

      Ha yeah, it's a strange illusion on the eyes ain't it

    • @johnsergei
      @johnsergei 5 років тому +1

      Count the time the carrages go past. Even if there is no clickety clack, I can imagine it.
      I used to thing 4 fast clicks then another four & so on was fast, but that's only 70-80 MPH.
      This is anything but slow. This speed & up the sound is a blur of clicks, then another blur of clicks.

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 5 років тому +3

      Look upwards when there's an airliner flying over. It seems to be going very, very slowly. Then just realise it's probably going at over 400mph! As you say - speed and distance gives a very weird illusion!

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 5 років тому +1

      Try the old Transacord recording of No7 doing 112 in 1959. The 'groups of four' were sounding like single gunshots. Now that loco was shifting...

  • @bennickss
    @bennickss 5 років тому +3

    Bittern takes the cake by miles.

  • @innuendo1
    @innuendo1 6 років тому +5

    Tornado did do mile after mile at/around 100mph.... they both kinda win.

  • @railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf
    @railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf 3 роки тому +4

    Both impressive but the A4 just looks effortless

  • @callumb1049
    @callumb1049 6 років тому +4

    Bitten wins because it still works unlike tornado

    • @thestarlightalchemist7333
      @thestarlightalchemist7333 6 років тому +2

      Nah, its now on display and at the old hornby warehouse

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 4 роки тому +1

      @@thestarlightalchemist7333 will it be coming back?

    • @justahillbilly7777
      @justahillbilly7777 4 роки тому +1

      @@ajf3202 Only time will tell with that one. As of 2020, she's still cooped up in that warehouse with her side valences taken off and Scotsman's old auxiliary/second tender coupled behind her, albeit with a new body in Garter Blue with BR logo on it.

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 4 роки тому +1

      @@justahillbilly7777 hope she comes back. We need working A4s again.

    • @nvrthomas5056
      @nvrthomas5056 4 роки тому

      @@ajf3202 Sir Nigel Gresley is coming along well, hopefully she'll be back late this year or sometime next year!