Using a 2007 Phase One Digital Back - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2020
- Ever wondered what it's like using a $2,000 digital back that used to cost $20k? In this video I head to Great Falls Park to show the highs and lows of using a 13 year old Phase One P25+ with my Hasselblad film camera. Join me as I get soaked and almost destroy this equipment.
Please let me know in the comments if you've used an older digital back or if this has encouraged you to buy one! Thanks for watching :) - Навчання та стиль
ma man just removed a digital back without protection in the rain, this is savagery
No problem getting your gear wet...when you get back home, just put it in the oven at 450 degrees for 30 minutes...no further problems...ever.
WTF
Pricey fatal mistake, mate!
what makes the P25+ so amazing is that it has a huge sensor, and only 22megapixels, so the photo sites on the CCD are huge, and capture light in a way that newer backs cant match. It makes the sensors on the "new" Medium Format cameras like the fuji gfx and blad mirrorless look tiny. I got my P25+ back in 2009, for a steal at $9,500 lol, and use it on a 4x5 with a stitch back, and a fuji 680. It still out preforms my sony a7r3. Amazing back if you can fine one. Only downside is that it uses a firewire 400 connection for tethering, so I have to use an old laptop for any tethered captures.
I totally agree - the larger sensor makes for really unique images. I forgot to add it to my Pros but I love the fact that it's only 22mp. Plenty of size to crop some and no need to worry about filling up your hard drive :)
@@nathanhirschphotography871 yes, the file size is what i like about it, since i will stitch 3 frames to get full coverage of my lenses. I end up with plenty of resolution. Even the 22mp printed up to 20-24inches looks so good.
Does the Apple Firewire to Thunderbird adapter not work for tethering?
I have a P25+ and P30 for Hasselblad H and just absolutely love the color and detail I get from them. The P30 LCD screen has a bit of fungus in it but it’s still works perfectly. The P25+ is 22mpx but has a 1.1x crop. P30 sensor size is a bit smaller, similar to what you get on the newer fuji and hasselblad series. I would love to find a comparable back for my 500cm but they still tend to sell pretty high.
Awesome video! Thanks!!!
Thanks Lugen!
Shot with a Hassy with P20 at the Newsweek studio back in the day. Loved the square format of the P20. It was cutting edge back then but so was my 1Ds MKII.
That must have been an interesting job!
Interesting video. I was just interested in this combination of Hasselblad 500 with Phase One back because I want to continue using Capture One while using a Hasselblad. I hope back is worth that money.
Hi Edvinas! If you love using your Hasselblad with film you'll enjoy the convenience and overall quality of the digital back. It has some drawbacks which I'll cover in my next episode in more detail, but overall for the price it's well worth it.
I just came into possession of a Hasselblad H2 with a Leaf Aptus 54s digital back. Never dealt with a medium format camera before and I'm interested to see how it performs in comparison to my 5D Mark II. On paper it really seems like they are pretty close to each other in terms of resolution but I believe there is more dynamic range on a CCD sensor as opposed to CMOS? I'm not sure but I'd love any resources to look into for comparison.
Thanks for the explanation! I just bought a second hand Phase One IQ140 for my Hasselblad 500cm and I am fingering out: is it possible to transfer the images directly via a cable to my macbook pro? Do I need a USB or Firewire cable, or can I use both? Thanks!
Can you tell me what mount you use for the 500 series hasselblad? Is it V mount or H mount? I have a 503. Thanks. Like your videos.
Hi this is so cool, thanks for the great video! I’m curious about the connector cable, will any flash sync cable do or do you need the cable with an 8 point connector? I got a p21 from a friend but it is missing the connector cable. The 8 point one is hard to find and very expensive
Nathan. Does the P25+ also do Long Exposure for several seconds or minutes?
Destroying that camera.
I'm using a H25 With my hasselblad 500CM, nice toy but blocked with the thethered , i can imagine the fun with a P25!!!
Regardless of price... each to their own........... did you just open that back up in the rain? crazyness. 😄
yes I have, it was great. They were way too expensive.
I have P65+ digital back usually I use with 645DF+. How can I attach for Hasselblad 501cm ? I couldn't find any V Mount adapter. Where can I find ?
$6K worth of back + camera and swaps the sensor in the rain.
Great video/ I have a 501cm / Will P25+ work with it ? Thanks:)
hi! I want to ask how do you make the composition? the view is 6x6, but the digital back is not. So what do you see from the camera? thanks
Hi Stratos, you can either purchase a specific focusing screen for the digital back that will show you the area captured by the sensor, or you can do what I do and just make a guess. After a while you get better at figuring out where the imager sits in the scene.
Love my P30. I use it with my Hassy C/M for street photography.
Any videos or pics to share?
@@ezekielkok1848 Pics of the set up, or from the camera?
Your pics using the p30 n cm
can you help me.....I have a mint condition ETRSi Bronica....I want a digital film back.....Im going nuts trying to find information on anything for my Bronica
Unfortunately there is no digital back for Bronica. You might be able to find a 3rd party adapter.
Woop woop, time to sell my nikon d3 and nikkor af 300mm 2.8 to get this back for my 500c. Probably gonna have to sell my 4x5 as well. 😫
Hey Wilson! The Nikkor 300mm 2.8 and d3 would almost cover the cost of the new Hasselblad 907x, which blows these old digital backs out of the water...maybe not in overall image quality but DEFINITELY in terms of ergonomics and ease of use.
Hey ! So I recovered about 15 P and P+ backs from an aerial photography buisness. I was really wondering how do you get the right exposure every time without a light meter ?
Edit: what lens are you using ? I ordered a Hasselblad EL today on eBay and looking for an electronic lens
I'm using the 80mm CB lens, which was the "budget" version but performs incredibly well.
The backs have a histogram that you can turn on in the menu. My next video will go over this and some of the other features. Congrats on the purchase!
@@nathanhirschphotography871 also, something I couldn’t really find, does the backs have electronic shutter ? If you don’t have a sync cable how do you do ? These are the questions bothering me
@@tdg9281 You can't capture the image without a sync cable.
@@nathanhirschphotography871 hey could you take a look in your Instagram DM for easier communication ?
I want the true full frame one P65+
Super hard to find! I've never seen one for sale.
@@nathanhirschphotography871 I guess depends where you’re based. There’s one in the U.K. selling for 4,785 USD. But i think i will get the IQ1 80mpgx - 2,500 USD more but newer features and more pixels.
A few things about your video.
The music interferes with hearing what you are saying.
The jumpy/swirly video is a real problem - causing a vertigo attack and dizziness while trying to watch.
An umbrella over the camera is a smart move.
A tripod with the center post extended is liable to induce more vibration than preventing it.
A cable release to trip the shutter will make for sharper images than pushing by your finger - especially with the camera on the center post as raised.
Great feedback, thanks! 👍 Looking forward to seeing yours.
@@nathanhirschphotography871 You won't see mine as I know my limitations and Video is a big one. A whole different game than still images.
On the Digital back for Hasselblad - how do the prints compare in B&W to film prints - not scanned and printed digitally?
What a positive human you are. Lovely charachter.
the rain and handling the back was making me cringe LOL
OMG, this lad is just ruining beautiful gear as if it was some disposable camera ! So foolish !
This is like American Borat. Ridiculous. Hilarious. Sometimes just plain wrong. Poor camera. Will be on eBay for $2500 under a “Ex ++++ rarely used” condition in no time. Two thumbs up! Ruin more cameras for content please!!
where did you get the synch cable?
It came with the digital back
@@nathanhirschphotography871 How high do you feel comfortable pushing the ISO?! do you have any examples of it over 100 ISO?
@@smichaelpridgen The back is really only designed for tripod use and handheld in good lighting conditions. Trust me, anything over ISO 400 will be grainy. If I were buying today I would go with the 907x/50c.
@@nathanhirsch4408 I picked up the P25+ for a steal but it has a different back on it than I anticipated - I think the Mamiya 645 back. did you remove or add a convert back for the P25+ back? It looks like I need to take it off to use it.
@@smichaelpridgen I don't think there's any way to adapt them to a different body. Only the V version will work with a Hasselblad.
2000 dollars, suuuupercheap
As with most things in life it's all relative. This is the cheapest digital option.
@@nathanhirschphotography871 I know you're right. But Im poor after buying a 503 complete kit with 3 lenses. Lol.
@@tekoppentekoppen761 Congrats on the setup! It's the best camera ever made so great choice 😎
You complain about verticle horizontal when you with one of these and pm90 its flip flip get it done
$2000 … “super cheap”
Okay.
$2000 is super cheap? lol
No respect at all
This dude gives no fucks about his equipment lmao
Two grands on a decade old electronics with no guarantee that it will last for at least a couple more years and outdated software...... it's a clear no deal to me.
Maybe....but it's held up just fine in 13 years of use and that's a sign of the build quality. No reason why it won't work another 10+. These are built like a tank!
Phase one still supports their backs in capture one, up to and including the present version. So not outdated software.
Could you be more disrespectful?
stop rocking .. making me sick.