60 Year Old 50 Megapixel Camera -- Using Digital Backs with Classic Cameras
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2024
- If you have a Hasselblad 907x 50 CFV, a Hasselblad 907x 100 CFV, or the scores of digital backs that predate these, this video might inspire you to use your back with different types of medium and large format cameras. This video (1) explores some of the pros and cons of different Hasselblad and Linhof camera options; (2) demos the Linhof Technika 70--an inexpensive and versatile body; (3) features a photoshoot comparing a newer Sinar digital 55mm and older Rodenstock 65mm film large format lenses mounted to the oldest camera in my collection, a Linhof Super Technika IV 6x9, and (4) demos many of the back adapters from China. You can find these by searching eBay for "Moveable Adapter For Hasselblad V To [YOUR CAMERA HERE]".
I don't mention crop factor in this video. The sensors on these digital backs are smaller (mine is 43.8 x 32.9 mm) than 6x6 or 6x9 film, so with my a 65mm lens is more or less the 50mm equivalent lens for a 35mm camera. Stitching multiple shots together helps overcome this. - Ігри
The red tint on the sides of images is part of what is commonly called the "Italian flag phenomenon", and is (along with some additional astigmatism) a result of using old designed-for-film lenses with short registration distances (especially common with symmetrical wide-angle lenses), that project light at steep incidence angles on digital sensors with unoptimised micro-lenses. BSI sensor technology has reduced this effect significantly, so the CFV 100C would be an improvement over the CFV 50C in this regard.
Helpful comment, thanks. Hopefully someone with a cfv 100c can test. Worth noting, I get the effect when shifting with newer made for digital lens like the Sinar digital line.
Wow, this is something else! What a cool thing to do things differently! And the results are remarkable, too!
This is so cool
Nice video!
Brilliant Work, thanks Brother!!
Makes a change.
AMAZING Love it so much
goooooood
Great stuff. You're talking about a Mamiya adapter. Does that mean you have a way to use the 907 on say, a RB67?
The adapter I show is for 4x5 graflox cameras, and I'm not certain it was made by Mamiya since it has no markings. I think the seller shared that info with me. Would something like this work? www.ebay.com/itm/284224752528 Looks 3d printed, so not sure about the quality.
Nice.
Were you just teasing about using an old film 35mm body with a digital sensor? I'd sure like to hook one to my old Pentax Spotmatic.
Many products have claimed to offer this over the last few decades when I paid attention to these things. I dont think any are great solutions. Here's an example: www.mu-43.com/threads/m43-sensor-for-use-in-35mm-cameras.121499/
Also note that early digital SLRs were film cameras and could be converted back. I remember the first time I saw the Nikon D1 which was built as a digital camera--and how impressed I was. Here is an example of one of these early cameras: www.flickr.com/photos/cgauthier2112/217273743
Here is a later Leica R8-R9 convertible camera: ua-cam.com/video/e8wca_ua0GQ/v-deo.html
Awesome collection. So are there adapters letting us share mount Hasselblad A backs on the Linhof 6x9 (2x3) or to the 4x5 Graflok or other bodies? Or is that just for the digital back kit? Either way, I’d like to try 1 on the little Linhof 6x9
In theory, you could mount your Hasselblad film back to 2x3 or 4x5 Graflok with the correct adapter, but (1) only certain Hasselblad backs allow you to manual advance the image (the very old ones, or the 70mm ones do); (2) most adapters will use a different film plane--further back than the Linhof backs (which makes using your infinity stops a pain, and might impact your ability to use wide angle lenses), (3) some adapters will not allow you to remove the darkslide. None of these problems are deal breakers with digital backs using smaller sensors, but might ruin your day using 6x6 film. Linhof made lovely 6x6 Super Rollex backs. I'd recommend going this route.
@@bogamanz good points. I just realized about the A120 backs needing gear crank. My A70 requires it as well. It can only handle crank from loading to 0-1 & stops It there an older 70 not A? I use A70 100-200. I can get a dedicated Linhof Rollex 70mm as well as I think for the 6x7 on the Linhof IV
@@khanscombe619 with your a70 back, I think once you get past the mechanical stop on frame one, you will be able to manually crank again and watch the frame counter to advance. I’m not an expert on the different models though.
Hey bud, are you in Maryland?
god Ive been trying this with an assortment of cameras (linhof master and technikarden) and tons of 4x5 film lenses - paired with phase backs. So frustrating to get it dialed in - glad to know im not the only one with magenta fringes and soft corners.
It's a shame how little data is exists on this topic to guide folks.
@@bogamanz yea great to see your 2 videos on the subject. I’m like 5 cameras 7 adapters 3 backs deep into this. 🤦🏻♂️
Great video… until you realize that the 907x 50c used on eBay will set you back 5 grand.
If i have to use an adapter to slide things around I’d quicker get a Sony alpha with a hasselblad lens adapter like the one by Rhinocam
I have a newer back (you might find it is somewhat cheaper from a reputable online photo store), but keep in mind that there are 25+ years of these various backs on the market and a good one can be had for $1-2k (when they originally cost more than a car). Knowing it might cost $40 per E6 roll for the film, scanning, and dev, one can recover their digital investment quickly (I do develop and scan my film so my cost per roll is much lower). Lastly stitching images is optional. most of the time, I use a fixed adapter that cannot stitch. That Rhinocam adapter looks cool. I'd consider it if I had the right gear!
I own a linhof Technika 5 4x5" where can I get an adapter for my p45 back. any ideas?
Weren’t there several variations of the p45? Like a mamiya model and a Hasselblad H model?
Anyway, I bet you need a 4x5 Graflok back for whatever mount p45 you have and the correct sync cable (which you likely have already). Check your manual to confirm.
Absurd premise. Your back runs about $6000. Hassy body about $1000+ Hassy lens….you’re goofy
(1) Thankfully, I bought much of my film gear before the current spike in prices. In 2019, one could get a complete Hasselblad CM kit for ~$1k USD. (2) I made a point to mention that these backs have been produced for decades and cheaper older models exist--see the comments below where many viewers use older digital backs. You could get set up in medium format digital (with used gear) well below the inflation adjusted price of the 2002 D100 digital body. It's all relative to each of us, but to me that's "cheap". Meanwhile, just shooting and developing ten c41 4x5 photos today costs ~$100.
Digital sucks