let's talk about tiktok: the land of stealing from black creators...
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2020
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HELLLOOOOOOOOOOO EVERYONE!!!!! welcome back to my channel! in today's video we are going to be talking about tik Tok... again with its shenanigans. so we have recently learned that the "creator" of the renegade dance is in fact NOT the creator and chaos ensued. so if that topic interests you at all just keep on watching! thank you guys so much for all the support I love you all -xoxo that bitch (also happy valentines day)
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dont forget how jasmine master's "and i oop" became labeled as a "vsco girl" term... them white girls ran along with it so long
kiersty obando oh true omg
The Truth has been revealed
TEAAAA!!!🗣🗣
Alex Lux someone’s big mad
Alex Lux truth hurts
“I think I could have gotten money for it, promos for it, I could have gotten famous off it, get noticed,” Jalaiah said.
So *no* it’s not ‘JuSt A dAnCE’ this should have been an opportunity for a young *TALENTED* girl
Right
@ari yeah And Charli had the nerve to change it..
@ari yeah And Charli didn't give her any credit
@ari yeah SHE DID CHANGE IT. Compare the original creators dance to hers. And she does know the girl did it NOW because everyone is talking about. So I'm pretty sure she knows by now and she should give her credit for it since she knows-
@ari yeah and I'm not telling the thousands of people who used it because Charlis getting famous OFF OF IT-
Idc if people say that Charlie girl is innocent in this. The fact that she let herself be credited for the dance and took opportunities away from the black girl is telling. So to me she’s just as bad. Colonizer behavior so I’m not shocked🤷🏾♀️
Keyanahh Mochi
i honestly can’t stand her or her boyfriend lil blackie
@@sydneysarai did she correct people who thought she started it?
@@sydneysarai aight just asking
Crazy Nats yes. even when you click on the sound of renegade, the video with the original tag is not charli it’s someone else, who is a black male. this whole black vs white race thing on tik tok and twitter is getting so tiresome.
@@sydneysarai you know what's more tiring? People copying other people and earning more fame and money than the people who actually deserve it.
Exposed during Black History Month. Sad but Poetic.
Agreed.
HopesARMY very sad!
HopesARMY at least it’s getting talked about
Fr karma came in swinging
@@landonpalmer4165 And we love to see it.
Personally I don’t have an issue with Charli (She's a fifteen year old having fun on an app), but the fact of the matter is: she does the same moves in every dance. She does the same dance over and over. Jalaiah's dances are much more complex as seen in the comparison between their videos. The underlying issue is that Jalaiah ASKED to be credited and was ignored.
Ooop don't say it out loud. The Charlie stans don't like knowing that their fav has no flavour
The thing with the renegade, there’s three people who people think invented it first. There’s the video of the couple who did it, there’s the video of the girl with her mom at the airport who is believed to be the first and now this one. No one really knows who did it first
yess it's so boring and sad that that's what gets popular but I think it's because that's what other people can do their own versions of!
no i do , she knew all the credit she was getting for "her dance " but never said it wasnt hers. its not about dance moves
Useful Polls what.. renegade was definitely by the girl first. Check the time stamps
This reminds me of Bring it on when the black cheerleaders called out the white cheerleaders for stealing their moves. The perfect explanation of culture appropriation.
That's what this situation is about but she could have not stole her dance and took the credit from a black girl smh
TheLeah2344 yes 👏🏽
Centauria Cunningham it was a trend and no one knew who made it
Big Fan they never asked who made it either?
Lonisha Armstrong nope. I just assumed this girl and guy made it since they made it a trend is the first place
And when Black kids were dancing on triller (thriller?) it was ghetto
Another web dancing site
right
In a tik tok comment I was shocked to see that people were calling Jalaiahs dance (ghetto) but then I did a bit of scrolling to see they did the charli version when it was popular.
@@Jay-id3wi oh no ma'am.. 🤢
@@Jay-id3wi 🤦🏾♀️
same thing happened to keondra.k who is a black cosplayer on tiktok, she created this whole insanely huge fnaf trend and popularized two or three video formats and fnaf audios which was a trend that lasted a couple months if I remember right. bigger white creators would follow the trend, and when she politely asked for credit and she was relentlessly bullied and gaslighted for asking for credit. a white creator made up a dance to a doja cat song and no one even though twice about her asking for credit.
Fr no one doubted crediting @yodelinghaley on tik tok for an easy dance but when a lot of white creators did the fnaf trend that keondra.k created, only a few people credited her
all the big white tik tokers are being so rude to her so sad and annoying
I’m not on tik tok but I’ve seen the Doja cat dance, you can TELL it was made by a white person. That’s all I’ll say
Brianna Barragan sorry to bother u but what does fnaf stand for
MyUgLY Channel five nights at freddys- it’s a game :)
the racism and sexism on that app is unbelieveable.
Bru so TRUE
honestly
that’s why i’ll continue to stay off of it
Also having to be conveniently attractive and not disabled. They legit don't promote someone who "looks possibly disabled' ummmm what
Sexism?
Jalaiah Harmon should've been the one with the superbowl commercial. everything these white tiktokers have? JALAIAH DESERVES.
Evelyn K YEEESSS!!
If Beyoncé ever come across the dance I hope she credits Jalaiah brings her with her on stage like Shakira did with the Afro Colombian dance. You give credit where it’s due
@@laprincesse9312 YES OMG! she deserves to be dancing up there, her talent shouldn't go unnoticed.
Steal it. Let’s steal it and give it to her. Bc I’m exhausted.
Even if her intent wasn't to steal why wouldn't she point out who she took it from? Or at least be like here's the easy version of the original. Like she still would have gotten clout this is so sad.
its amazing to me that people dont feel bad for literally stealing ideas from others, especially when they blow up as big as the renegade.... like i understand that charlie is still a literal child but like... surely she's old enough to have a conscience about this kind of thing??? or maybe I'm giving these kids too much credit.
She got if from someone else who got it from the original anyway
she still does that. even in duets she removes the tag sometimes to the other person in the duet
@@savana9371 i don't think what you're saying is a reach. While i don't speak for everybody i myself am 15 and a buch of creators on tik tok are also 14-17 and we ALL know to credit people and not to steal. If we're going there charli herself has credited other creators for other dances shes done so we KNOW she knows to credit. Truly sad how an opportunity was taken away from that girl :(
Dana the Intern all she had to was put the girls @ .
Then there's the people who say " what's the big deal? Everyone copies on tiktok, etc" That may be true but some people have the decency to credit the creators they take from. Charli never did that. She just let people believe the dance was hers and very proudly accepted the fame and attention that came with it.
Celina Kay No one thought she made it 🤦🏾♀️
Big Fan she still took the credit tho is what I mean. She didn't set the record straight
Celina Kay she never took credit for it. She did a really popular trend. She didn’t even bring it on to TikTok a girl and got did
Big Fan by not crediting the original creator, she took credit. And a lot of people, not everyone, thought she created the dance, and she did not set the record straight. She let it rock. That's the point being made here. You are one of the people I'm referring to in my original comment
Celina Kay How was she supposed to give credit when no one knew who created it. Someone else brought it on the app and it became a trend.
I’ll never forget the day Kim Kardashian had pierced nails and everyone tried to say she invented it 🙄
Girl. The boxer braids bs. BOXER BRAIDS? WHO?
Sunshine Hernandez facts! Like y’all say it’s get to call it corn rows but BOXER BRAIDS sound better?
@@Weeniehutnurse Are you that uneducated on hair those are box braids not cornrows.
Sam Abuukar BOXER braids, not BOX braids. Can you tell the difference?
Or Bo Derek braids!😒🙄
Her intent is irrelevant what matters are her actions. When she started being credited as creator she should’ve spoken tf up and said “NO I DIDN’T, I SAW IT HERE”. But because she didn’t, it’s just malice. It is. Idc idc 🙌🏽
EXACTLY!
i was gonna say i don’t remember charli claiming that she made the dance up but your comment made me see it from a different POV. she never did say she didn’t make it up after it basically being deemed her thing. i get that she’s 15 but you’d think that the adults in her life would teach her how to give credit where it’s due.
Nae Ateny idgaf if she 15, she has a brain and knows exactly what she’s doing. Her being 15 don’t exempt her from criticism
Lilmama Johnson i never said it exempted her of criticism tho?.. upbringing has a part to play in it and you can tell with the way her parents enable some of the things she does & is involved with. my niece is 15 and would never because she knows accountability.
@@itsnotthatdeepluv it's literally called lying by omission aka leaving out relevant information such as "I didn't make this dance". She may not have been directly questioned about it but she knows she didn't make it at the beginning and end of the day and could easily say "hey I saw it here first. go give them some love" or something to that extent. It's not hard especially with the number of hashtags people of that status use to get their tiktoks to be found more.
My dad literally said black people are trend setters
No lies were detected.
ur dad us a goat
Fact
True
WE ARE! 😎
This is just like eyebrows in fleek, everyone was allowed to eat off that catchphrase except the creator herself Peaches Monroe
eyebrows in fleek is a catchphrase even in germany , i hear it here all the time. the problem isn't just the theft , one can recover from it , but erasure and replacement ? whew Chile.
19:35
smurfyboy92 she’s trademarked it and she’s a successful beauty business owner
This girl Charli, did this maliciously . She did NOT credit whatsoever! That is not right! This young lady lost out on deals because Charli decided to steal the dance and make it even worst.
*worse...
Mew Mew lol thanks yes worse ❤️
she wasn't the one who modified it, so she probably didn't even know where it was from to begin with
charli dances like a straight line
ʇɹɐǝɥ ɐɹʇɔǝןǝ LMAO
Wypipo stealing from black creatives?? What’s new?
Lol wypipo
wypipo ? You mean white people?
🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Nothing lol
Wypipo!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
no one:
amanda: it doesn't sit right with my spirit !!! >:(
That's why I don't go on tiktok... We create just about everything and it gets taken from everyone else and no one wants to credit us or be associated with us at all.
Michele, they steal it from somewhere else and upload it there. that's where the problem is. you should go there and support only melanin.
That’s why I have Dubsmash 😂
I wouldn’t say everything honestly if doing a dance someone else created is stealing then the whole app is robbery.
Nimat Okanigbuan According to copyright law, choreography can be copyrighted this meaning it can be stolen.
River Wilhelm-Robertson if you don’t want people doing your dance why create it? People do other peoples dances on Dubsmash all the time y’all only see the problem when white People do it on Tik Tok
I hope it’s no Ill will but cmon if it wasn’t Ill willed Charlie should’ve said “I didn’t create this dance ” cmon they white wash everything and we can’t never have nothing for ourselves this stems from history too
Aary how is it white washed When Poc brought the dance onto TikTok in the first place
Exactly
She said numerous times that she had to learn the dance
No Name she didn’t know who made the dance because so much people were doing the easier version of the dance which she just learned
@No Name yes she did. Look at her bio in her recent vid
It reminds me of how the word ‘woke’ was so ironically poached from black twitter. And the meaning became kinda diluted.
Zacarias Lopez “woke” “Queen” “Yass” “Slay” “Period” “Sis” all that
@@yougotgamesonyourphone6947 also "sksksks" and "and i oop-" but it now became associated with white girls with that stupid vsco thing.. ughh
@@tinalove4324 i didnt even think about the and i oop thing... bruh........
@@cairah1935 exactlyy
Tina Love right and they really ruined it🤦🏾♀️🙄
the fact that the only black viner that ever got any/is still getting sponsorships and brand deals is d*metrius harmon makes me SICK
PERIOD
wait what did he do
oliver _ summerella did pretty well and SupaCent with the crayon case started on vine
And King Bach
And DC young fly
How TF do you water down someone's choreo and claim it as "your choreography" when you can't even DANCE WELL💀 Theives in general make me angry, but this doesn't sit right with my soul at all.
Mew Mew wait show me where she has claimed that it was her choreo? She has been taken dance for along time. She can dance really well. She wasn’t even the one who took the moves away. It was that couple who popularized the dance then charli did it and it got more famous.
Mew Mew although I don’t like Charlie..in her defence tho she never said she stole the dance..she didn’t even know who the original creator was
K-pop Junk she pretty much did because she knew damn well people thought she made it and didn't have the respect to say it's not hers and no offense to her but she might take dance classes but she's still stiff af
@@kentingzher classes obviously aren't working for her then
Mimi Cat lmao if u aren’t a dancer, u can’t talk lmao.
people on tiktok get through hoops to give “dance credit” and “inspired by” for creators on tiktok, so it sucks to see the same energy isn’t kept for everyone. it sucks to see black people be memes all the time without compensation. EDIT: this might be a fever dream but i’m 60% sure alex from target went on a social media star tour 💀
I haven't seen a single black meme, white PPl getting targeted for no reason now.
Sad Potato you never seen a black meme ? 😐
@@user-bk1gi9ro4x wtf is a black meme
@@sadpotato1540 now they know how it feels
I'm so glad you're addressin this. The blatant racism I've witnessed on that app... whew chile the ghetto 😷
😔
I would just like to thank you for talking about that America’s next top model. We were talking about black face and I brought it up and class. They were shook
Queen shit
Watch her make a crappy apology like "i didnt mean to steal it ):" and then continue to capitalize off of Jaliah and her work.
Charli didnt steal anything, global.jones is the one that switched up the moves and never credited her. The white tik tokers just did the dance with less and less seasoning everytime
@@jadab.2100 But why didn't she correct people when they said that charil created the dance?
@@princessbloom1460 Idk, I don't think she knew, and people just started talking about the dance again
Jada Bayda that makes it worse tho cause that means charli blew up from stealing from a thief...the irony. She had many chance to tell people she didn’t create the dance since she damn well knew everyone thought she did
Fr
They have been doing it to us for years on instagram, twitter, youtube, and vine they never give us credit for making what basically is social media is today!!
Preach
it makes me so mad that as a black girl i have to go out of my way to try to get clout but a white girl making the same content (or smth with less effort) as me on tiktok goes viral in hours 😐
It's sad because as Black women in America we have to work 2x harder than anyone else.
Emma XTC bruhhh tell me your Wattpad username! I’ve been looking for something of quality to read!
@Emma XTC trusss
The creative stories never gets the clout and reads it deserves, it's very frustrating
Charli literally drinks a bottle of water and gets a million likes
@@helenhowells6692 right
are we surprised? hell no, are we frustrated? hell yes
This also happened it the girl who said “eyebrows on fleek”. She never got her credit while stores were putting those words on clothes etc. When she asked for her credit (since she could have made a shit ton of money off of it) they called her money hungry and that it doesn’t matter.
This is EXACTLY why I can’t get into tik tok. Shit pisses me off.
Unpopular opinion: tik tok is overrated and stupid (vine did it first and look what happened to them)
the app got shut down in 2016
Vanesa Saldivar Don’t blame tik tok, blame those certain tik tokers
FINALLY FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREEES
Vanesa Saldivar say it louder for the people in the back🗣🗣🗣 what goes around comes around
Vine required a shred of talent/effort, tik tok mostly doesn't
Y’all one of the main reasons that charli got her fame was because of her skin color, lets be real. If she was anything other than that, she wouldn’t have a Super Bowl ad for hummus and she sure as hell wouldn’t have blown up for dancing in her school bathroom. It’s just sad that poc creators (especially black ones) will never get these opportunities because they’re always stolen from them or they just don’t gain popularity as fast as white creators :(
I saw her and wondered why she was famous. She's like any other average girl that would go to my school.
Yeah, and the fact that the tik tok house is just only white people
skin colordoesnt matter, she is famous because of how well she dances
@@ldt504yt7 yeah sure...
So true, charli literally drinks a bottle of water and gets a million likes
It was actually it was a tik toker called ty.cxc and some other girl that gentrified the dance and charli obviously got it from them but didn't give them credit (all thieves think alike I guess) and they claimed they got it from dubsmash but ty.cxc and his little friend just now gave credit to Jalaiah.
@@a.l.1769 tiktok is nothing but band wagoning. And I wish these pea brained people had the humanity (if not creativity) to give credit to the the real creator/ the person who inspired them.
@@tanzil8193 I give it 1or 2 days before these white tik tokkers who got famous and recieved big opportunities off the dance come forward and credit Jalaiah (because the guy who made the song just thanked Jalaiah for making the dance that made his song blow up). After that I just expect them to ignore it like they always do.
Ty gave jalaiah credit, those two friends did not
*Remember when Manny MUA and Patrick Starrr copied a @wvrthy's "traptorials" without crediting her, and then gaslighted her?*
What’s even worse about the “On Fleek” situation is that when the woman tried to use the phrase, that she created, for her own brand she was getting shit from brands that were using it on top of not getting a cut out of their proceeds that they made while using it.
Jalaiah wouldve been the one to work with NBA and that wouldve help build her career so much...absolutely unbelievable
How many times do we have to say this "Give Credit Where Credit Is Due" is it that hard, this is like 'Bring it On'
Fr
It reminds me of Billie eilish and bhad bhabie benefiting from black culture with their white privilege.
how does billie benefit from it? Not to attack you but im truly interested
@@Beautyzxz Yeah me too music wise. I also noticed Billie's style has black culture influence. Prime example are her long, "hood/ghetto", colorful nails.
@@guitarsinger1231 it's mostly the way she dresses and talks.. she's clearly wearing hip hop inspired clothes which made her more popular, and the way her beats are
@@Beautyzxz her entire style that people always talk about nails, excessive jewelry and baggy clothing is straight from black men and women in the early 2000s.
@borderline grande there isn't anything wrong with it. I mean we create popular culture so it's normal to see white people and non black people do shit like this. The fact that ppl call her so creative and her style so unique is what's annoying. Like that's black ppl all day but billie stans go off ig. It just seems like we never get credited for the culture when white ppl get so praised for what they get from us (doing baby hairs, wearing hair styles we have been doing since forever, long blinged out nails, wearing nike and Adidas/ the street wear clothing trend, the way we talk, popular music,) they basically copy our essence and get praised as genius. At this point there isn't anything we can do about it but I personally always peep when famous ppl are doing that shit so I dont fw them🤷🏾♀️
charli got commercials, brand deals, money, and so much more for moving her arms a little and STEALING the dance from Jaleliah (I don’t remember how to spell her name sorry)
it’s a big deal because she could’ve gotten all those things but she didn’t bc those opportunities were stolen from her. charli never gave credit or denied that she created the dance and stole all this from that poor girl
despicable, disappointing, and disgusting
You know charli was famous for 4 months before the renegade. All she did was do the dance, she did not get famous from doing the renegade, but since she is a professional dancer. Ya'll are just attacking her since she is white and that did a dance made by a black girl without giving credit. Also this is coming from a black person.
i don't think she deserves to be completely attacked but its still not tokay that she did steal someone else's intellectual property without credit sooo 😳
charli chick still needs to own up for not being original, not that we cant notice it already tho 💀 💀 💀
Gwyn M SHES NOT THE ONE WHO CHANGED THE MOVES! IT WAS A TREND AND SHE DID IT SHE WAS ALREADY FAMOUS
@@alessandrareyes5875 alrighty luv, she still profits off of something that wasnt originally hers without credit and the fact that it was created by a black TALENTED creator makes charli chick look bad so :/ ive never supported her so it dont really affect me i just wish we would credit original talented black creatorssss
“In case you’re living under a rock... or you’re 45 years old... the renegade dance on tik tok...”
Me, a 23 year old: oh??
Same I'm 22 and deadass didn't know about thos dance
I'm 20 and had no idea lol but that's because I don't use tik tok
@@sarebear7777 i live under a book 😂😂😂
I’m 16 and always confused as ever when I comes to the latest tiktok trends etc.
This legit hurt my feelings 😭😭😭
Can u also talk about the issue of Digital Black Face (I forgot who coined the term) that goes on on TikTok? White kids don't do nun but pretended to be Black and laugh at us, they're just new age Minstrel Shows, it's so gross.
Yup vine was one place where lots of creative black and minority youths were able to showcase their talent and get the credit for it, in reality tik tok is truly a whitewashed app from vine
It’s Chinese owned not white owned
Tik tok is an Asian owned app
@@laprincesse9312 Never said it was white owned, but it is whitewashed. What are u talkin bout?
@@AnimeAngel115 girl bye you edited your comment. nice try. have a blessed day my love
Also this charli chic got a feature on a super bowl ad. A SUPERBOWL AD!!!! Chile the colonisation 🥴
Amanda: “remember on fleek?”
My brain: “MAKE UP ON FLEEK, HER NAILS ON FLEEK, EYEBROWS ON FLEEK, HER NAILS ON FLEEK, YEAH SHAWTY ON FLEEEEKKK”
Even the “savage” dance was created by a black girl or even the “say so” dance
Closest I'll get to tiktok is through watching them on UA-cam occasionally and I've noticed in these lil compilations there are barely any black people....hmmm...
14:13 "Melanin-deficient meerkats" SISIISSSS SKWNDKBEBFB
Y’all seen the hype house
I refuse to download that app
Big papa Meatball that’s a cult 😂
So what people are free to do whatever they like. It's not our fault and white people fault if black people don't post shit on social media.
@@mewmew6158 I wish I hadn't
i’m a black tik toker and didn’t even know this dance was made by a beautiful black girl. i honestly thought it was made by charlie. thank you for this video amanda. it’s so important
Sis better sue for all she's owed...
You need an oscar
@@kanataslover thanks but they did Frozen 2 bogus so I think imma be ok with an AMA
@@Brandon-bc9vt k
the video in the beginning 💀 no lies detected though!
Not one
I definitely feel like She deserved everything Charli and Addison got. I mean imagine the pain of sitting at home watching YOUR dance go viral and watching people get famous off of YOUR dance that no one credited you for.
off topic but we talk about how jeffree star had a history of being violently racist towards black people, but then turns around and flaunts dread locks for product promo?
Hopefully 24kgldn and Flo Milli become bigger. Honestly I would like to see black creators getting their coins
Yes! :)
Milli for sure is getting her coin. Goldn is like a one hit wonder ig
@@ehmery8365 he has a ton of bops like city of Angeles which and games on your phone. His team just needs to push the shit out of him
Ik, but his fame will come very soon
I remember when the word "swag" used to be cool to say. NOW, I can't even utter the word without thinking of the most unseasoned, cringe-full ppl on the internet (the planet, even) that beat the word to death and made it lame. Literally, turned a nice/neutral word into something that makes me roll my eyes so hard, it triggers a headache.
Swag
FR
People are like “she’s getting her credit now” because she performed at a basketball game and has 1 million followers and is verified.... you do understand that that is nothing compared to what Charlie is getting and has gotten... 1 million to Charlie’s 26 million that is absolutely nothing and a basketball game....I- get out
just me what is else does she need 💀 charli deserves it, that’s exactly what would have happened when she came out probably less
she's 60M now
Almost 90 million now
Finally someone talks about this. Tiktok is an INCREDIBLY gentrified platform. So many videos of kids stealing dances, showing off their wealth with materialistic stuff, pushing an unrealistic beauty standard, etc and overall giving a very top 1% image of generation z.
I’m a substitute teacher and a couple girls were filming this dance during class for tik tok. I had no idea what it was and now I feel old :( im only 21
Your so pretty 💕
The worst part is that it doesn't even hurt them to credit people, it literally doesn't take anything from them
when I saw the video of Jalaiah doing the dance I was like yup it makes sense that she's the creator. you could just tell by how she moved. her dancing looked a lot more polished and clean
Another reason for why I refuse to go near that godforsaken app, this is actually disgusting
People need to hype more black people on TikTok cuz I literally barley see a black person on my for you page and I’m just now realizing that and that’s crazy
We should of left tick tok in 2019 smh
I went on tik tok and people are starting to do the actual dance and say who created it. I was like wow finally giving the credit she deserves.
I’m extremely angry because I saw her dance first before then all so I felt like I witnessed her dance being stolen from her. Black People on Twitter they are doing their best tagging missy Eliot and lil nas x to give this girl a chance in their music video.
People actually thought Charli created the dance💀😂I didnt even know she existed until a month ago,shes only known for Hype House and her dating a 17 year old
Al Al you might of known her for the dance but most of the ppl on social media know her for “making up” the dance
ew isnt she only 15??? thats girls got too much goin on in her life rn smh, god help her
But ofc it's just "hair" a "dance" and we are all "sensitive" because everything is meant to be shared but only when it comes to black culture.
Edit: also the first person to post the dance on tiktok was a black dude.
Culture means nothing to those that don’t have any.
And that sounds lit
@@chanell1491 that's true and thank you
Oooh how?like? What's the summarized idea? I'm interested!!!!!!!
minnie babi Pls tell me where you are gonna write and post the story I really wanna read it.
@@prissycatdoll6366 I'm not sure yet I'm working on writing it in my notebook for now. I wanna be sure it's. actually somewhat good
Edit: but I'm making a Twitter so possibly there or Instagram because I don't know where else to post it
i tried googling this and one of the first thing was this article- "The Internet Bullied Charli D’Amelio into crediting the original Renegade dance creator: Jalaiah Harmon" uh the causticity-
Melanin deficient meerkats!! 😭😂😂
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Can we talk abt how on tik tok, if you’re not white and pretty you don’t get the “hype”. Like??
Not to be mean but the black girls on tik tok are *HELLA!* prettier then the white girls
Charli seems like a nice girl but the fact she didn’t just speak up and say i didn’t create the dance EVEN if she didn’t know who she got it from the credit would’ve been found. The internet would’ve found this girl, what has happened the opportunities STOLEN from this 14 year old is ridiculous and she deserves so much better. I’m glad you’re bringing more light to this, the fact that people just ignored her and moved on is fucking bonkers. There’s a say so dance by @yodelinghaley and no one even HESITATED to give her credit, the double standards in social media is so much bullshit.
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tbh i dont necessarily agree with people saying charli is a bad person when she had 0 malicious intent but there is a lot of racism on tiktok eg: the “hot cheeto girl” trend that makes fun of black girls and latina girls.
helpmeiminpain I think what the point is is that credit should’ve been given to Jalaiah. Charli got on a SUPER BOWL AD while dancing the dance and nobody knew the actual creator (or where it all originated from because some people might argue that it was changed but that’s where it came from regardless) Although we don’t know what charli’s intent was, she profited off of the dance while everyone had no idea who actually made the dance. Imagine you made a kind of shirt and all of a sudden that shirt was being worn by HUGE celebs and influencers, these people got ads, shows and promos while wearing this shirt, while some might argue ‘it’s just a shirt’ you spent thought, time and effort to make that shirt and the least you could do was get credit.
Now i don’t think that just charli should get hate for it, nor do i think it was only her responsibility to credit the creator (although the reason why the attention is on her is because she’s famous and she profited from the dance) i believe everyone should have given credit and jalaiah apparently asked for credit and was ignored. so it doesn’t take away from the topic at hand, which is PLEASE GIVE CREDIT WHEN IT IS DUE.
Black excellence being stolen by yt mediocrity? Can’t say i’m surprised in the absolute slightest.
are u black lol
@@luhwoaa no but I have eyes and can see it happening
It was definitely intentional. There’s no way u can unintentionally see a dance that someone’s doing, sloppily copy it, and then go on huge platforms and go along with the narrative that u invented it.
Irreplacable charli isn’t the one who stole it nobody knew who that other girl was and people still don’t and i’m fine with that
We need our own spaces run by black women! Speaking it into 2020!!!
Mo O yes!!! I was literally just saying this!
Did people really think Charlie made the renegade dance? I mean I never did I just thought she was the most popular to do it and drew more attention to it. I didn’t know who made it but still lol this is a genuine question lmk pls
sophie I think it’s like if u were to ask someone who made the dance or when u hear the song or see the dance who do you think of?🤔
Even if people knew she didn’t make it, it now becomes a racial thing because the OG creator didn’t get anything but now a white girl comes along and gets all the hype. What makes her so popular to have gotten all that attention? Not trying to start anything just genuinely answering your question
Watch the video @ 17:45 to hear the bigger issue of this whole thing to understand my point of view. Your curiosity and question were valid tho.
I love how all your intros are calm and welcoming and sweet, and then the minute you get into content, the claws come *OUT*
This situation with the "Renegade" dance is a direct reflection of how the "majority" feels entitled to things that belong to other people. Over and over again we had conversations about cultural appropriation which in my opinion stems from the feeling that some White people have that they have a right to everything. This didn't start recently and its not just limited to taking things from Black culture. Many things that we deem "American" today came from specific minority cultures, i.e. rock music, pasta, hip hop, jazz, folk music, fried chicken, bbq, dread locks, corn rows, etc, etc, etc
cornrows is never will be american culture but african american culture don't disrespect us again 😭😂 but I get what you mean.
i always let the dishes pile up and only do them when you upload so i can wash and watch
Girl, your channel is my FAVORITE! I have binged at least 25 of your videos in the past two weeks! I am OBSESSED!
same!! I found her 2-3 days ago and I've watched almost all her videos. she's got such great topics and I honestly wish she had more subs so that her highly valuable commentary could grace everyone's screens!
Imagine some of these black content creators logged off the internet for a good 6 months to a year. How dry would the internet be? Some of the bigger content “creators” would be ruined.
i learned that Jalaiah created the dance towards the end of 2019. Whenever I posted about how she created the dance and how TikTok literally whitewashed her dance, everyone told me “oh she’s probably lying” “well that version is too long and boring anyways” and i was just shocked... now that the article has come out and she’s been getting the credit that she should’ve gotten to begin with, those same people want to think they’re so progressive and that they knew all along... 😬
I don’t think she stole it from her just because she’s black. She stole it because it’s good and she knew she could get away with it.
Carlos Vonteuigo I don’t think anyone said she stole it from Jalaiah cause she’s black.
Tiara Wolfe that literally discredits her hard work she’s good because she works hard not because she’s black
Also choreography does count as intellectual property but once the work has been transformed enough its considered a new thing. Im not sure about alll tiktok dances being dubsmash dances because from what i know they are two different dance styles used on the app. Tiktok uses the literal same 5 moves. That why they're branded tiktok dances. Cause its literally formulaic at this point. Also charli has actually made a tiktok dance herself (the little portugese"love i know" one) and made it apparent that its actually her dance as opposed to any other dance on her page that she just.. does.
*"that app just allows racism to run rampant and nobody does nothing about it"*
Charli ended up dancing for Jlo and is getting her own reality TV show. All because of Jaliah.
....gross. bring my sis her money!!
I wrote my whole bachelor thesis ab this. Another example is the sksksk and i oop.. the vsco girls ruined it tbh.
Omg I'd love to read it! Is it published online somewhere?
can u make a vid about ED (eating disorders) and the normalization of it among young girls on tiktok...it’s rlly disturbing and it’s honestly coming to a point where it resembles thinspo/ana tumblr in like 2012...ik its a touchy subject but I think it should be brought to attention too
maddie t wait what do they do on there
OMFG THANK YOU!!!! Cuz I’m a dubsmasher and I hate when ppl see me making them and ask me “are u a tiktoker?” Like no, I’m a dubsmasher get it right. I hated how they took the dababy sound and dumbed it down cuz that was a dubsmash sound from time.
ppl might not see it as a big deal bc “it’s just a dance” BUT she choreographed a dance to lottery. if anyone is a dancer yk you cannot just steal a part of a dance you saw and make it seem like it’s your own. she knows she didn’t create it bc on her twitter she refers to herself as the “renegade girl” and constantly tweets about the dance. charli has gained 26 mil followers in just a few months, got to dance with jlo, even a super bowl commercial, and so many more opportunities by making it seem like she created THE biggest dance on the app. i have so many problems with this UGH
Damn girl you quick 😩 I knew you had this video in the works as soon as I heard about it
can you make a video about Ellen and how she’s kinda problematic
edit: and jenna marbles too ... I’ve noticed a few things about them both
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so what spill the tea
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it’s sad that tiktokers are taking from dubsmashers who are black teens !!!!! someone make it make sense......
well wait... charli was being called the creator of the dance... and she didn’t speak up and say “well, no....” that’s passive stealing
OMG YES!!!! I was thinking the exact same thing when everyone thought renegade was made by charli why didn't she speak up and say no I actually didn't I'm just following the trend but again why would she the dance basically made her famous
Jalaiah walked so those tik tokens could run.
This videos are not only entertaining but they are also informative!!! That is why I can see them without getting bored
you are on your grind!! we love to see it!!
people saying “it’s just a dance” it’s not. charli and addison got SO many opportunities that she should’ve got but because of racism n shit poor girl not nothing.
srybuddy it’s not about racism lmao someone else stole it and charli just did it and she was already kinda famous and she never claimed it
alessandra reyes white privilege