Thanks for the microphone comment. I’m dialing in the setup and post workflow for my new dual mic setup. I like that there is essentially no buffeting. Yeah oil pressure looks pretty consistent with what we’ve been seeing. There was room for a little more oil to get to 1L over too. But I’m still a bit off the pace at BW so too early to make conclusions there.
Dear 900BRZ I'm assuming the delay in getting the improved sump to market is IP protection... Hope it comes together soon, I really want one!!! BTW just collected my BRZ after HARROP fitted the SUPERCHARGER: 300hp at the wheels certainly changes the character of the car... goes from love to smitten!
I don't really think it's IP protection. I know Verus has had a lot of other things going on including Pikes Peak. Harrop SC looks like an amazing product. Hope Verus is able to bring this to market soon!
A friend of mine is developing a new lap timer app, and I was testing an early prototype. I will definitely share more when he's ready to make it broadly available!
Hi, did you ever notice a very discreet noise during low pressure event in right, high G turns ? I have footage I can share with you, but I can't message you on messenger anymore (and am not on instagram).
Looking good out there! Also glad to see some of your data from a track I frequent the most. Really wish I was able to be there this weekend. I am curious if the setup changes or the tires led to the car looking so unstable? It looked like the car was ready to slide out at almost any opportunity.
I think the setup changed the balance for sure and I got used to driving a more understeery car. So I was compensating with more abrupt inputs. I need to smooth those out now that the car is more neutral or oversteer biased. Potentially also BW exacerbated that with all the direction changes. Will be taking it to Thunderhill West and that’s where I’ll really be able to feel the before/after since I’m more familiar with that track.
Great video/Lap as always :) Quick question for you... Did you find much benefit switching to the Ap racing BBk on a stock power car ? I been toying with the idea of upgrading myself but I am not sure I am at the limit of the stock brakes. Going to temp the calipers at my next track day to see what's what. Thanks
Definitely recommend measuring your temps and also seeing what your pad life looks like. Thunderhill West and Laguna are hard on brakes. West has 1 short straight, so there is very little opportunity for cooling and Laguna has big braking zones. I decided to upgrade after I went through R8s after about 2 track days. My friend had recommended I try a softer compound because the SX2s don't like super abrupt braking, but they couldn't handle the heat. Now I'm running DS1.11 in front with the BBK and XP12 in the rear. The AP kit definitely has a lot better cooling.
@@spareroomracing3168 No problem. There are a couple people in our 86 Challenge group who are still on the stock kit and go to the same tracks btw. They tend to use higher temp-rated pads and will do a cooldown lap occasionally. So the other reason that BBK might make sense is if you want to be able to send it for a whole session.
@@900BRZ Yeah I am on CL Brake RC6s myself and since my track days are open pits I only tend to do a handful of laps at a time. Maybe I just want an excuse to buy a BBK LOL.
@@spareroomracing3168 Haha yeah, if you do want to upgrade, you can go with the Performance Pack Brembos for relatively cheap and the best part is the rotors are inexpensive. The rotor rings for the AP kit last a long time but they are $400 each. Basically everyone I know has ruined a set of rotors by holding the brakes when hot at some point, so it would be nice for that not to be an $800 mistake. I did it during a red flag on track where I had to stop on an incline. A better alternative might have been shutting the engine off and leaving it in gear, but then you're going from hot engine temps to off with no cool down. With PP Brembos, that would only be a $150 mistake, so now I recommend that to people upgrading to a BBK for the first time. Luckily my rotor-ruining experience was on my factory rotors immediately before I did the upgrade.
Nice oil pressure once again 👍. Is GT Radial SX2 a brand of roller skate? Or were you driving on ice? I don't think the car even settled down on the straights.
Lol. Yeah definitely need to get used to this setup. I think my inputs were good for the understeer setup but now that it’s more neutral/oversteer I need to smooth them out
Buttonwillow is a very bumpy track. Additionally, SX2s generate the most grip when they slide a bit, which is what makes them a great tire to learn car control.
Are you running a timing app via android auto? Would love to know how you got that working, I really want to get a custom dashboard going there eventually.
A friend of mine is developing a new lap timer app, and I was testing an early prototype. I will definitely share more when he's ready to make it broadly available!
@@900BRZ that's awesome! I tried going down the rabbit hole getting "non-approved" apps working on that screen and it seemed more trouble than it's worth
I'm actually not exactly sure what the stock alignment is but I have a very small amount of toe in. I also haven't got an alignment since last year, so I probably should do that. I think part of the oversteer is due to the setup changes (thicker rear bar, spoiler delete) but also I need to adjust my driving from the previous (understeer-biased) setup. I'm used to making abrupt steering inputs to intentionally induce rotation.
I’m off the pace at BW since I have less experience here and I’m adjusting to a new setup. Also grip decreased a lot from the first session and this lap was in the third session. Will need to go back but also my friend Kevin will be the real test here. Overall I’m pretty happy with the pressures I saw though and still could have added more oil to get to 1L over. This was probably around 2/3 L over.
What's your take on the throttle sensitivity in the first 30% of travel or so? Seems like blending into the power coming out of corners and going over a rise and/or dropoffs was upsetting the car a bit... Although since yours is a BRZ your throttle pedal should be pretty linear. I personally can't understand why Toyota set up the throttle so over sensitive like it is. By far the most annoying thing about the car to me and is really frustrating that I need to pay for a tune and potentially void my warranty just to make the throttle linear so it reacts like one would expect from a naturally aspirated sports car. What are your thoughts with your rear tire wear and grip? Seems like the rear is a bit nervous although it's hard to tell from just video whether that's not enough rear toe-in, the sway bar rate increase, or something else like hitting the bump stops or too much compression damping? Would be curious what you think could be refined there so that you don't have to saw away so abruptly at the wheel to counteract the rear nervousness. Haven't had my GR86 on track yet but been thinking about maybe doing a few track days here and there. Thanks.
Yeah thankfully the BRZ has pretty linear throttle mapping. I posted a visualization of this in this article: 900brz.com/posts/gr86-vs-brz#tuning I really dislike that decision in the GR86. I think part of the oversteer is due to the setup changes (thicker rear bar, spoiler delete) but also I need to adjust my driving from the previous (understeer-biased) setup. I'm used to making abrupt steering inputs to intentionally induce rotation. So for now I'm going to keep my setup and work on driver mod.
When you say you run Mobil 1 0W40 FS is that "European formula" oil? It seems that European blend relates to some details like lower ash content to comply with European certifications, but it was weird to me and I'm wondering if they also sell a more normal 0w40
I’m recording with AiM Solo 2 DL and then using RaceRender to overlay the gauges. It’s a little tedious to set up, but very valuable to be able to look at all your data with the video.
@@02semiata I'm interested in a live-overlayed solution like Smart Cam but from what I've seen it's expensive and the camera is potato quality. I'm actually interested in eventually developing an alternative.
@@900BRZ I think the race capture systems can do live overlay with a go pro but yeah the live overlay market is pretty small lol. If you can make your own system that would be awesome. Smarty cam is not cheap but it's not stupid money either I think the base camera is under a grand. You end up paying for convenience and being able to scrub data along side your video in RS3 is pretty dope.
@@02semiata Yeah I want that for sure. Overlaying data is my least favorite part about track days lol. Allowing modular camera options would be great. Will check out Race Capture.
@@900BRZ I am still very much on the fence buying one due to the oil issues. Was hoping they would sort it out for the 2024 model. All I would use it for is daily driving and autocross. Some other folks I know who autocross theirs have told me not to worry.
@@a_single_white_female I am planning to make a new video to share some of my personal opinions. I think that the risk is pretty low for that use case. Overfill by half a liter and check your oil level before each autox event.
@@900BRZvery much looking forward to your updates and thoughts! Wrapping up my customary (quarterly) deep dive into forums re: RTV issues, oiling & baffle news, yours & autohaus’ channel, plus Chris Rosales new project car articles on motor1. Hopefully verus mod drops soon (pun intended).
Oil pressure is looking good! Excited to see more data as the prototype oil pan evolves.
Impressive results! Looking forward to when the new pan design is available to purchase.
Impressive results! Looking forward to when the pan is available for purchase!
Yooooo nice driving dude.
Nice meeting you at the end of the day. I had a blast!
- Bobby
Woot-nice to meet you too!
Looks like our good friend oil pressure drops doesn't seem to be showing up much as he used to. Btw, that microphone setup sounds good.
Thanks for the microphone comment. I’m dialing in the setup and post workflow for my new dual mic setup. I like that there is essentially no buffeting.
Yeah oil pressure looks pretty consistent with what we’ve been seeing. There was room for a little more oil to get to 1L over too. But I’m still a bit off the pace at BW so too early to make conclusions there.
Dear 900BRZ I'm assuming the delay in getting the improved sump to market is IP protection... Hope it comes together soon, I really want one!!! BTW just collected my BRZ after HARROP fitted the SUPERCHARGER: 300hp at the wheels certainly changes the character of the car... goes from love to smitten!
I don't really think it's IP protection. I know Verus has had a lot of other things going on including Pikes Peak. Harrop SC looks like an amazing product. Hope Verus is able to bring this to market soon!
Also looking foward to the pan 😅
Nice video Brian, thanks for sharing.
May I ask, which app is projected in the head unit and how did you manage to project it?
A friend of mine is developing a new lap timer app, and I was testing an early prototype. I will definitely share more when he's ready to make it broadly available!
Loving this channel! I am subbed now and i definitely want to donate some oil to the cause!
Thanks! You can reach out on instagram @900brz
Hi, did you ever notice a very discreet noise during low pressure event in right, high G turns ? I have footage I can share with you, but I can't message you on messenger anymore (and am not on instagram).
No I never noticed that. You can send me an email brian at 900brz.com
Looking good out there! Also glad to see some of your data from a track I frequent the most. Really wish I was able to be there this weekend. I am curious if the setup changes or the tires led to the car looking so unstable? It looked like the car was ready to slide out at almost any opportunity.
I think the setup changed the balance for sure and I got used to driving a more understeery car. So I was compensating with more abrupt inputs. I need to smooth those out now that the car is more neutral or oversteer biased. Potentially also BW exacerbated that with all the direction changes. Will be taking it to Thunderhill West and that’s where I’ll really be able to feel the before/after since I’m more familiar with that track.
@@900BRZ Totally understandable! I’ll be looking forward to more of your vids to see how the setup changes end up working for you.
Great video/Lap as always :) Quick question for you... Did you find much benefit switching to the Ap racing BBk on a stock power car ? I been toying with the idea of upgrading myself but I am not sure I am at the limit of the stock brakes. Going to temp the calipers at my next track day to see what's what. Thanks
Definitely recommend measuring your temps and also seeing what your pad life looks like. Thunderhill West and Laguna are hard on brakes. West has 1 short straight, so there is very little opportunity for cooling and Laguna has big braking zones. I decided to upgrade after I went through R8s after about 2 track days. My friend had recommended I try a softer compound because the SX2s don't like super abrupt braking, but they couldn't handle the heat. Now I'm running DS1.11 in front with the BBK and XP12 in the rear. The AP kit definitely has a lot better cooling.
@@900BRZ Thanks that was very helpful! I guess I didn't think about how high speed some of the tracks are you drive.
@@spareroomracing3168 No problem. There are a couple people in our 86 Challenge group who are still on the stock kit and go to the same tracks btw. They tend to use higher temp-rated pads and will do a cooldown lap occasionally. So the other reason that BBK might make sense is if you want to be able to send it for a whole session.
@@900BRZ Yeah I am on CL Brake RC6s myself and since my track days are open pits I only tend to do a handful of laps at a time. Maybe I just want an excuse to buy a BBK LOL.
@@spareroomracing3168 Haha yeah, if you do want to upgrade, you can go with the Performance Pack Brembos for relatively cheap and the best part is the rotors are inexpensive. The rotor rings for the AP kit last a long time but they are $400 each. Basically everyone I know has ruined a set of rotors by holding the brakes when hot at some point, so it would be nice for that not to be an $800 mistake.
I did it during a red flag on track where I had to stop on an incline. A better alternative might have been shutting the engine off and leaving it in gear, but then you're going from hot engine temps to off with no cool down. With PP Brembos, that would only be a $150 mistake, so now I recommend that to people upgrading to a BBK for the first time.
Luckily my rotor-ruining experience was on my factory rotors immediately before I did the upgrade.
Nice oil pressure once again 👍. Is GT Radial SX2 a brand of roller skate? Or were you driving on ice? I don't think the car even settled down on the straights.
Lol. Yeah definitely need to get used to this setup. I think my inputs were good for the understeer setup but now that it’s more neutral/oversteer I need to smooth them out
Buttonwillow is a very bumpy track. Additionally, SX2s generate the most grip when they slide a bit, which is what makes them a great tire to learn car control.
Are you running a timing app via android auto? Would love to know how you got that working, I really want to get a custom dashboard going there eventually.
A friend of mine is developing a new lap timer app, and I was testing an early prototype. I will definitely share more when he's ready to make it broadly available!
@@900BRZ that's awesome! I tried going down the rabbit hole getting "non-approved" apps working on that screen and it seemed more trouble than it's worth
Any update on the app yet? @@900BRZ
Wow I'm amazed how much it slides, does it have stock toe settings or did you changed the aligment of the car?
I'm actually not exactly sure what the stock alignment is but I have a very small amount of toe in. I also haven't got an alignment since last year, so I probably should do that. I think part of the oversteer is due to the setup changes (thicker rear bar, spoiler delete) but also I need to adjust my driving from the previous (understeer-biased) setup. I'm used to making abrupt steering inputs to intentionally induce rotation.
Thank you for the answer, I'm saving to buy a GR86 Circuit Pack from the dealer, just to learn as much as I can from this cars
How do you think the prototype oil pan handle Riverside? Looked good in the video with some dips at the end, but that was just one lap.
I’m off the pace at BW since I have less experience here and I’m adjusting to a new setup. Also grip decreased a lot from the first session and this lap was in the third session. Will need to go back but also my friend Kevin will be the real test here. Overall I’m pretty happy with the pressures I saw though and still could have added more oil to get to 1L over. This was probably around 2/3 L over.
What's your take on the throttle sensitivity in the first 30% of travel or so? Seems like blending into the power coming out of corners and going over a rise and/or dropoffs was upsetting the car a bit... Although since yours is a BRZ your throttle pedal should be pretty linear. I personally can't understand why Toyota set up the throttle so over sensitive like it is. By far the most annoying thing about the car to me and is really frustrating that I need to pay for a tune and potentially void my warranty just to make the throttle linear so it reacts like one would expect from a naturally aspirated sports car.
What are your thoughts with your rear tire wear and grip? Seems like the rear is a bit nervous although it's hard to tell from just video whether that's not enough rear toe-in, the sway bar rate increase, or something else like hitting the bump stops or too much compression damping? Would be curious what you think could be refined there so that you don't have to saw away so abruptly at the wheel to counteract the rear nervousness. Haven't had my GR86 on track yet but been thinking about maybe doing a few track days here and there. Thanks.
Yeah thankfully the BRZ has pretty linear throttle mapping. I posted a visualization of this in this article: 900brz.com/posts/gr86-vs-brz#tuning
I really dislike that decision in the GR86.
I think part of the oversteer is due to the setup changes (thicker rear bar, spoiler delete) but also I need to adjust my driving from the previous (understeer-biased) setup. I'm used to making abrupt steering inputs to intentionally induce rotation. So for now I'm going to keep my setup and work on driver mod.
Any idea when this is going to be available for purchase? @900brz
Up to Verus at this point. Still no concrete ETA, but I know they are working on it.
When you say you run Mobil 1 0W40 FS is that "European formula" oil?
It seems that European blend relates to some details like lower ash content to comply with European certifications, but it was weird to me and I'm wondering if they also sell a more normal 0w40
I think that’s the only 0w40 they sell here, so that’s what I’m running. Just make sure it’s the full synthetic one.
What application are you using to overlay data and sync them on your videos?
I’m recording with AiM Solo 2 DL and then using RaceRender to overlay the gauges. It’s a little tedious to set up, but very valuable to be able to look at all your data with the video.
@@900BRZ Smarty cam baby lol
@@02semiata I'm interested in a live-overlayed solution like Smart Cam but from what I've seen it's expensive and the camera is potato quality. I'm actually interested in eventually developing an alternative.
@@900BRZ I think the race capture systems can do live overlay with a go pro but yeah the live overlay market is pretty small lol. If you can make your own system that would be awesome. Smarty cam is not cheap but it's not stupid money either I think the base camera is under a grand. You end up paying for convenience and being able to scrub data along side your video in RS3 is pretty dope.
@@02semiata Yeah I want that for sure. Overlaying data is my least favorite part about track days lol. Allowing modular camera options would be great. Will check out Race Capture.
Clutch going soon?
Why do you say that? I haven't felt anything that would indicate that, but interested if you saw something.
@@900BRZ replayed the video, maybe its just the rev hang that made me think it's slipping lol
@HGChannel2020 Ah yeah that must be it. You have to be patient (perhaps more than I am) to not use the clutch to slow the revs down for the next gear.
@@900BRZ or could it be the flywheel? It uses a dual mass yes?
@HGChannel2020 pretty sure it’s dual mass. Yes I think the flywheel is part of it for sure.
A lot of good saves. Maybe too many good saves?
You don't need to saw the wheel like that 😂😂 looks like a ship in rough seas ha
Lol yeah need to adjust to the new setup. Did some self-analysis in the description.
Will you test the 2024 model to see if the issue still exists in the new one?
From what we've seen, nothing has changed from 2022-2024 that would affect the oiling.
@@900BRZ good to know, ty
@@900BRZ I am still very much on the fence buying one due to the oil issues. Was hoping they would sort it out for the 2024 model. All I would use it for is daily driving and autocross. Some other folks I know who autocross theirs have told me not to worry.
@@a_single_white_female I am planning to make a new video to share some of my personal opinions. I think that the risk is pretty low for that use case. Overfill by half a liter and check your oil level before each autox event.
@@900BRZvery much looking forward to your updates and thoughts! Wrapping up my customary (quarterly) deep dive into forums re: RTV issues, oiling & baffle news, yours & autohaus’ channel, plus Chris Rosales new project car articles on motor1. Hopefully verus mod drops soon (pun intended).