My Topical Finasteride Update (14 Months)
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Thanks bro, good info! By the way how do you split it properly after crushing it, do you just eyeball a 10th, or..? And how do you consume it, just swallow the powder with some water?
@@Mister_NO. I have been using a mg sensitive scale for years. At this moment I just eyeball 1/10
@@letsgethair I see. Thanks for taking time to answer my question, much appreciated!
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Your hair looks great & thank you for your honesty it helps a lot of people
Bravo on the hair regrowth. That is amazing. I would always try cutting the dose in half if you get sides from fin, or even less than that. Switching to dut or taking dut in addition to fin is also an option when losing ground.
Can you elaborate on the manufacturer and formulation of the solution
Very informative video😊
Hey when you take a break from finasteride how long you don't take it?
Thank you for this video. I have already had one hair transplant and I was not on finasteride and started losing my hair again and the crown area was thinking of doing topical fin but had this same concern I wasn’t sure if it was going to be as effective as oral. I am still very confused about what to do because my hair transplant isn’t that bad but definitely looks more sparse.
Do you think 1mg a day can give you more hair count than your actual dosage of 0,5 mg/day? There are doctors on the internet that recommend 0.5 and others who say 0.5 can't work and they don't know much cases that reached goals with that dose. Im very confused now.
Except from having a picture of your hair,
did you notice more hair shedding in the area of using topical fin, how much hairs did you count on each day?
Matt,
Love the channel. You said that you were trying to minimize side effects. Mainly mental ones. What mental sides did you get? Any info is much appreciated.
You can check some of my Finasteride related updates titled “stopping Finasteride for 99 days”
what topical finasteride are you using?
This video helped me a lot as well. Same situation. Once I stopped topical and went oral with foam, dramatic improvement
can you do a video on how you crush finastride and ingest the powder?
Nice video again! So you are using now oral and topical minox right?
exactly!
Thank You!!
Thank you so much for this video. Are you switching now to 0.5 mg oral fin. every other day or everyday? I didn’t understand what are the dosage of your last 4 month.
Every day this time
does your hair have white bulb when it's shed?
i went on Topical Finasteride for 8 months and lost almost previous 1 years progress. now i am back on dutasteride for last 2 months and my hair finally starting to grow longer again. i would Topical Finasteride for slow baldness progression like when you are 35y+
I found that my hair thinning was due to a vitiman D deficiency from working night shift. Got my levels tested and on 5000 UI of D3 and have noticed a lot of new growth in just a month and a half. Way more than the year I was on topical fin.
Definitely possible. This normally shows up as diffuse thinning without the usual patterned hair loss progression.
@@letsgethairHello. Which Norwood were you before your first hair transplant ?
Post the numbers, what was your level of vitamin D before, and after.
@@dragosxtc1901 I cant say what it is now since I haven't had recent bloodtests but I was at 26ml before I got on supplements. Anything under 30ml is considered Vitiman D deficient. Its a slow and steady recovery but this last haircut I went short to check my progress and noticed it looks fuller. I have lots of small white hairs where I originally thought it was receding.
I think topical only works well in higher concentrations at 1mg or over. At a low dose the solution may not be 100% absorbed due to sebum and hair in the way
Well at least you tried -- it's always a balance of efficacy vs. side effects. I have no SE from oral fin so I'm not gonna mess around and try topical. It makes sense that topical would be less effective since with a spray, you don't know if you got: 1) full coverage, or 2) effective dose. Add in the factor that it might cost more, and it makes little sense to go topical, unless it's your only option due to serious side effects. BTW dude, I noticed you always look like a big dude when in the gym (or that one shirtless pic), but in these regular videos, you look normal size. You maintaining or plan to bulk some more? Fellow gym-goer
going trough all your videos except transplant ones and so far thank you for everything
Did you not consider increasing your topical dosage before going back to the tablet?
No I did not want to lose time and hair. Wanted to come back to something that I know will work for me, regain hair and try to increase my topical dosage later on.
Hi I want to save my hairline, but unfortunately fell into the dark rabbit hole of all the stories online and now feel bad trying it.... My question is can I take things very slowly to mitigate side effects for example.... starting with saw palmetto, then changing to topical fin, then eventually changing to 0.5mg every other day, to changing to 0.5mg everyday etc...... to slowly see if my body responds well. Also are there any long term effects of this drug? like could you develop something nasty 20 years from now taking it
The shape of your sperm can change permanently and your sperm count will decrease during the period of time while on the drug. They found that the penis size of mice get smaller when they use the drug for periods of time but take that with a grain of salt because mice are different than humans. Definitely start slow and get sperm tests every other week before increasing the dose if you're concern.
I have been using topical fin ever since my hair transplant in 2023. I started at 0.025% had no sides so i increased to 0.05% may increase to 0.075% at some point but will not exceed 0.1%. Its very easy to dilute the commercially available 0.3% fin with minoxidil using only Kirkland minoxidil. For example 30 ml of 0.3% fin + min with 60ml 5% minoxidil gives a concentration of 0.1% fin and 5% min. 10 ml of that mixed with another 10ml of 5% min will make 0.05%.
I thought you switched to topical dutasteride due to side effects from finasteride?
I tried 45ml purified water +10ml proprolyn glycol +10ml ethanol alcohol 99%+0.5 finstride but i still have symptoms
how soon after applying topical finasteride did you shower or sweat? while i’m no expert, i think these factors matters when using topicals. Instead of PG, I use a version with glycerin which absorbs more slowly. so i use it after waking up & wash before bed. this maximizes time on scalp & washing before bed eliminates worry about the solution transferring to my pillow/face/partner. i’m happy with my results & am thinking of testing going from 0.025 to 0.015.
Ahoi Matt - Have considered that the mental 'Side effects' you mention were just the mental downs we all have in Life? (like the doctor you once interviewed said about the sider effects, that they are no actual side effects, but more the normal downs of our mental state in Libido in life, plus the mental tension 'expecting' side effects?
Topical finasteride for me worked, but only on a 10% minoxidil 0.1 concentrate of fin, this is with derma stamping too. I don’t experience any sides either
Bro how many times per week are you washing your hair? Thanks
3 times on average
I have been on oral finesterdie for 1 year and few months now with minoxdile happy results 1 mg tablet I started taking everyday for 5 months now am only taking 3-4 times per week no side effects good hair density
any side effects? I'm starting to take oral finasteride 1.1 mg and oral minoxidil 3mg daily through hims chews
Amazing comeback from the oral I don’t think the topical was strong enough for you, your hair looks much thicker on the oral
Matt - I use topical fin at 1%, do you think it's too high? And why eventually?
It is a liposomal gel solution right? In such a case it is common to use a higher concentration because it doesn’t absorb as rapidly unlike the hydroalcoholic or trichosol bases. I suggest people to try liposomal if they can but you need prescription, it is more expensive and I hated using it in diffuse thinning or if you have thick hair. If you plan on using it on a small localised area, then it is worth a try.
@@letsgethair No, it's actually a liquid solution, hydroalcoholic.. so would you consider 1% too high in this case? But could you please explain why, since I don't totally get it. 1% would be 10 milligrams per ml, as an equivalent. So roughtly 10x the amount of a daily Propecia pill I guess. But since this is topical so going less in the blood stream, wouldn't 10x justified, compared to pill form?..
I tried to go back and watch some of your older videos and it looks like you switched a few times from oral to topical. Just curious as to why you didn't stick with one or the other and continue to lower the dose until one worked for you
This guy could be lying. Hmm.
why not try dutasteride mesotheraphy?
Hi I’m usingn minoxidil for 6 month which one is the best to use
You mean which brand?
Yes to thinknest my haire
Been on Dut for 1 year no side effects thanks to Aetherx. While on dut I had skin irritation after 1 week then used Aetherx product, haven’t had virtually any side effects since then
Do you think different Oral Fin brands have different stronger or weaker side effects?
100 percent side effect differ among brands . Im 4 years on fin .
@@vasiliybutenko4810 Damn how did you find the best for you?
Thanks for that information
I've been using finasteride for the past 8 months. Its doing a good job holding my hair together. Cos before it I was loosing it
One of my friends got a hair transplant in Turkey 9 months back. He hadn't enough follicles so they took some out of his beard. And it's all curly now. Way outta place with his back hair
I believe finasteride from the crushed pills aren't completely dissolved in the solution, even if you crush them very fine some finasteride particles stays trapped inside the bulking agent, personally i increase concentration by 25~30% (just an arbitrary number) as a compensation.
Will taking dutasteride at 18 mess me up sir. Further growth etc
Probably yes
Hi, one question please, when you were on topical Finasteride, did you experience any sexual side effects? or it started when you switch to oral ?.. thank you
Oral is the best imo. What I do is take it 3 months, 3x a week 1mg. Then I take a 2 week break just to get rid of the residual Finasteride.
oral is hands down the gold standard for hair loss and nothing beats it beside dutasteride
I stopped my shedding and thickened crown and mid scalp over one year period with
- 1ml of 0.025% topical finasteride in 50/50 solution of non PG solvent and Stemoxydine as well as 5% minoxidil foam once per day
- Nizoral shampoo 2x per week
- micro needling 2x per month
- collagen and vitamin D3 daily
- low carb diet
This protocol has worked for me with zero side effects. Everyone is different so finding what works takes trial and error. I would only increase finasteride if shedding returned
Whats the base of the fin topical you mix in?
@@iamnoone78647 50% Stemoxydine and 50% Non propylene glycol solvent (ethanol, glycerin, emulsifiers)
Similar experience to me. Was on oral finasteride on and off for 1.5 years but stopped due to sides. Went on a 0.05% topical finasteride and have been on that for 2 years but I have lost ground and my hair is a lot thinner. I’ve added in oral minoxidil and I’m now considering topical/oral dutasteride but starting to run out of options !
exosomes worked well for me
I guess the dosage 0,05 is to low. The recommended dosage is 0,3 per day. Also its better with minoxidil and microneedling.
What do u think about topical fin 0.1% every other day?
Even that is too low. The standard topical dosage is 2.275mg/ml or 0.2275% (based on popular Caretopic brand sold in Italy, they are usually more conservative with the dosages).
@@zbridgjpxupzmwhat is the equivalent dose orally? And what systemic DHT reduction is that topical dose supposed to cause?
why not increase the topical strength? You started on the lowest dose...IMO its better to increase topical whilst testing serum DHT. Many people say topical Dutasteride has less side effects also...
So im about to switch from finasteride to dutasteride. My brother got better results using Dutasteride instead of using finasteride. What u think about dutasteride?
@infinityred
You might be OK for a year or 2 but after that it hit me bad, side effects of Duasteride are low testosterone, erectile dysfunction, no interest in sex even if you did you couldn't perform, slight depression, you could see women walking around naked or in skimpy Bikinis and it wouldn't interest you, it's like you become emotionally numb also. Some say no problems! On here but they're a lucky few in the minority or on an extremely low dose. I take it for my prostate otherwise I'd dump it in the bin.
Yes mate I am changing from being on fin to dut after using fin for 30 years so hope this helps. Based on the medical research dutasteride has less side effects than fin and works much better. I am in transition (titrating from fin to dut) and no issues. Looking forward to more growth. I also take a natural aromatase inhibitor - high strength grape see extract. Lowering DHT more is not the issue that causes sides but the extra testosterone can convert to estrogen and throw out your testostetone to estrogen ratios temporarily which can cause sexual sides. The aromatase inhibitor will help balance yout T To E ratios. Only issue with Dut us half life is 5 weeks so if you do have sides it can take some time for them to go away. In the medical research only about 1% had sexual sides. I would also look at adding sublingual minoxidil to further assist as sublingual bypasses the liver and has less sides than oral. From my experience everything else is pretty much B.S.
I just dissolve my 5mg fin into vodka or similar liquor and dose with a dropper. I make it so I have 1mg per ml, so 50mg into a 50ml amount of vodka. Fin is stable even in water for up to 90 days so I have no concerns with it degrading.
I got absolutelly nuked by 0,5g fin tablet, i still have some problems year after stopping, i got 0,25 topical concentration from my doctor, now am not even sure if to try it :-/
I got sides from 0,25mg, now I'm down to 0,1mg a day
@@henrikg7661 i was thinking going for 0,25 eod or topical as last resort , but year after quitting i still have some problems, gotta resolve those first , 0,1 ed can be good idea too
Are you 100% sure it is caused by fin? And what are the sides? Scary that even 0.5mg would give sides that last a year, puts me off of even trying my chances with it. Health over hair.
@@kaisersoze851i felt the same on 1mg and 0,5
Honestly, lost morning woods, lost energy, didnt feel my orgasms at all ( that made me stop it)
@@kaisersoze851idk dude, maybe its all the stress from it , but overall libido energy problems, the shittiest part was not feeling my orgasms, my next step was topical but am not sure after seeying this video :-D but am like 10 months of it… and i feel its up and down , prior to taking fin i had no problems ever, also am no unhealthy fat guy am 30 yo gymgoer
where did you buy tropical finasterid
He was buying Essengen-6+ from Minoxidilmax.
Is that a new cocktail ?
@@someguycalledcerberus9805ive heard it doesnt work. what do u think?
pharmacy Darwin. Belgium
Stopped finasteride due to side effects. currently happy with minoxidil and derma rolling + coconut oil + DHT blocker (updated)
just try 0.5 everyday
minox doesn't address the cause of the hairloss
@@pagenotfound- tried 0.5 and even .25 every other day
@@DC-wo2yb use alternative DHT blocker
What's this "dht blocker"? That's very generic.
Hi Matt. Why don’t you try 0,25 mg oral fin daily? I switched from 0,5 to 0,25 and didn’t feel any difference.
I tried it in the past and didn’t see much of a difference regarding side effects. That’s why I am rather sticking to 0.5mg which is closer to the therapeutic dose of 1mg. I tried taking 0.5mg 4-5x a week and that worked also for me.
@@letsgethair but how much reduction of libido is it? And is it ED stuff too? My concern is also for my fertility
The main question is: "where to buy Topical Fin?". At the moment I'm buying from the same clinic where I got my transplant here in Ireland but for 3 bottles with 5%Minoxidil and 0.25%Fin I'm paying €250. It's an actual robbery
I got mine from an online pharmacy called Oxford
@@PeterBellUK thanks a million man, I see now it's out of stock but I'll keep an eye on it.
Hope they deliver in Ireland though.
Thanks again
Opinion on 0.25mg oral fin daily?
I tried it in the past. Was able to maintain my hair. Using 0.5mg now just to get closer to the therapeutic dose, and might do 0.25mg again if I feel any sides for prolong periods of time. 0.25 definitely works but for some guys it might be too little
@@letsgethair I’m using it myself due to getting sides on a higher dose. But I also use RU alongside it
It could be a good video idea? Swap to 0.25 and see if you lose hair or not
What happens as men age for the body to start breaking down testosterone and therefore increasing DHT? When men are young (late teens to 20s) they have the most testosterone they'll ever have but almost no one goes bald at this stage of their life.
Switch to 0,5 dut, less side effects than fin 1.0
Guys, is it ok for me to buy Proscar 5mg and divide it into 5? Is it also effective? I don't have much fund so
Yes that is fine and I did it for years.
You have to divide into 4 unless you crush and weigh it every day
Is Finarid brand also alright?
@@haroldbuenaventura9511 probably
5:38 0.025% Finasteride is 10 times lower than the standard topical dosage of 2.275mg/ml or 0.2275% (based on popular Caretopic brand sold in Italy, they are usually more conservative with dosages). I bet that's why you didn't see results.
The study showed similar results to oral at 6 months
Did you have hair transplant?
yes
@@letsgethair how many?
Does anyone suffer from scalp stiffness and occasional painful bumps on the thinning areas? Specially on the leading edge of balding areas?
Why are you deleting comments 😐
??
Personally after 2 years of oral fin 3 times a week was way more effective at .25mg over .1 % topical fin I had the same experience I went backwards after a year and switched back to oral. I feel topical is trash just my experience.
I think the varying results are to a big part due to the carrier formulation and stabillity of the solution
What is ur regiment now? 0.25mg oral 3x per week?
@@wasteman3259 Yeah sometimes I do .5 weeks im really inconsistent but ive had the enzyme blocked for 3 years and my hair is stable on this. I also do oral min 2.5mg daily and topical 5% as many nights as I remember to hairline only.
@@tommuller849 Yeah I had mine compounded and it gave me worse sexual sides and worse hair so after 7 months I went back and its much better.
0.25mg 3 times per week?
Happy head says to do the topical .025 twice a day.
Personally I on't have time to use topical F 2x a day to be honest, and neither have most people
@@letsgethairdoes it take a long time to apply?
I've been on for oral finasteride for 6 years, now just for the side effects I switched to oral minoxidil and topical minoxidil enriched with procapil and hair gummies. Let's if I can keep my gains for long term .
You need to add derma stamping and topical finasteride. I saw my best results with a derma pen minoxidil and fin oral
minox doesn't address the cause of the hairloss
Bro maybe 0,025 it is a very low dose .
I think the right dose is 0,25 . That’s 10 times higher .
Once you said that 0,25 is equal to 2,5 mg oral . I dont think this is correct
My tropical finasteride is 0.1% but the presenter advised me it was too high a few years ago.
@@swayp5715 i think that topical 0,25 mg/ml is equivalent of 0,25 mg orally plus we dont really know how much of it can be absorbed by the skin also some of it goes to hair not to the skin.
For finasteride i have seen studies that show 0,25 fin is the best dosage cause it hasnt any side effects at all..but you need to have in your mind that fin’s absorption is much easier than duta cause of the molecular size difference
But
0.25=2.5mg - that was correct. 0.025 is definitely a low dose but on paper it was supposed to work. I’m not saying it didn’t work but it was certainly inferior compared to even micro dosing oral f.
@@letsgethair hey mat !!
Let me ask you smth. Minoxidil5% with duta 0,25 or lower as you suggest does it works? What yr personal opinion-experience?
Topical solution(foam)*
Probably topical finastride of 0.025% can be effective just for hair loss prevention
Where to get it in EU?
@@dadoslav1 In Italy you can ask a local pharmacy with a lab to create it. Medical prescription is required.
How? His hair got worse
BRO DOES FINASTERIDE CAUSE FATTY LIVER. 😢
No
The indian doctor was right, topical solution is not efficient. I used topical ditasteride and lost ground even further, then switched to oral finasteride 1 mg every other day and finally got improvements and no serious side effects. So from my experience, and as seen is this video, topical fin or dut is not efficient, you just lose precious time and hair that never gets back.
Topical Finasteride works but I would need a higher concentration. 0.025 could work on a smaller localised area. Topical dutasteride is a bit different because it’s heavy molecular weight restricts it from being properly absorbed topically (unless you utilise micro needling)
@@letsgethairIf topical finasteride works why you didn't stay on it and increased the dosage to 0.25% ?
@@letsgethairwhat systemic DHT reduction could be expected of 0.05 once per day do you think? And how are you so sure topical fin works? One Spanish surgeon told me he didn't believe in it at all.
0.025% should be equivalent to 0.25mg of finasteride in whole bottle, consider 0.2% which is around 2 mg finasteride in whole bottle
my is 0.1% on whole bottle with minoxidil 5%. I have realy good results and not side effects during 3 years.
less than 30% of topical fin is actually absorbed the rest evaporates away or just stays on the scalp.
I've been taking dutasteride for 20 years with no problems. I switched from topical minoxidil to oral. I started low at 2.5 mg and worked my way up to 10 mg. No problems
Wow that's a lot of oral minoxidil and maybe I will up mine as well.
Waouu 10 mg thats a lot!
Same here
@marquis38 for high blood pressure, they prescribe around 40 mg
What about the results tho?
People who don't use oral fin: ' I tried it. It gave me side effects, so I stopped.
People who do use oral fin: 'I've been using it for months. No side effects.... other than loss of libido' 😂😂😂
I’ve been using it for 3 years and I don’t have any problems with libido
Topical doesnt work, definitely...
It Works, 0,025 is too low.
@@Lucatellion What percentage do you use?
@@caty2ful I’m on hims topical Fin+Min.
studies say otherwise.
@@tommuller849 You can also find studies that say rosemary makes hair grow...
Exactly what I didn't want to hear today. The exact opposite. Libido and fertility versus hair/confidence. Horrific choice
Oh no this is incredibly disheartening. Same exact situation as others. I experienced tremendous success with Finasteride being on it almost two years but couldn't tolerate the cognitive decline, constantly mincing words and a reduced ability to structure a sequence of thought and figured I would try my hand at topical that I began two months ago. That's why Im here, I know there's an initial shedding period but it soons subsides. Have yet to see that tapering effect since beginning topical. Just a slow and continuous decline in volume. I feel like God is involved here. Is your vanity worth sounding like a babbling incoherent moron? Sucks I have to choose between looking presentable or sounding unintelligible.
Side effects because of placebo effect in early 2000's , people took 0.5 mg dutasteride and had no side effects 😅 but this 1 mg finasteride causing side effects 😂 , an unhealthy lifestyle or any deficiency causes side effects and we blame on medication 💊 .
Finasteride DESTROYED my life. be careful people.
BUT MUH NeUroooSteRoiiDsSs ???!!!!
@@exactly1176 It's comical how bo one believe it till he got it
How? Can you elaborate?
@@SR-ri5br i have most the symptoms of post finasteride syndrome. Be very careful
@@SR-ri5br i have a video on my channel if you wanna listen to the story / symptoms
A lot of sides are due to you lowering testosterone with messing about with drugs.
Lol, fin increases testosterone, google it..
Say what?
@@reykennedy5716 finasteride lowers testosterone, google side effects of low testosterone
@@elmarlionI think it raises serum test but also messes with SHBG which causes lower free test which is what matters
@@wasteman3259how does it mess with shbg and are there studies showing lower free test?
Topical Finasteride is one of the stupidest things to have happened to the hairloss industry, it works by going SYSTEMIC.
I don’t know if it’s that stupid there are people who are having great success with just the topical everyone’s body is just different. It seems like tropical is a great option for those that can use it. It also does not go as systemic
DHT is a PARACRINE hormone, go studying!