Honda VF 1000 buggy build part 13. test drive
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Remember, motorcyle engines make most of their power in mid to higher RPM ranges. You need to rev them out a lot to get them to go. Your gearing is probably fine, you just need to commit with more RPM.
I agree I feel like the wheel speed at idle is good with the 12t swap . U do kinda gotta jump on it and go just cuz it's heavy
Yup. It'll rip once it hits 7-8k. 12 tooth will be perfect. I'd just take it easy and keep an eye on if its still smoking. This build is friggen awesome.
He made a miscalculation with his torque on the engine. He said it was in nM and not lb/ft, which is a huge difference. It has 94nm of torque, which equates to only about 69lb/ft of torque. He needs deeper gearing.
Yeah, I was thinking even engine mods wouldn't help the take off. I'd just be easy on take off and let her eat up in the rpms.
I totally agree. The gearing actually sounds a little short. He is not used to having to rev and engine to make it go. I think the redline on that engine is about 11000, so until he gets it out of the yard and lets it go, he shouldn't make anymore gearing changes.
But as he mentioned that thing weighs a ton or at least half a ton, he really needs to learn how to build using lighter and less material.
It's a motorcycle engine bro.... REV IT OUT!!! They don't make power down low
👍👍👍👍 agreed
Agreed!! Check out my CBR600 build, first run video out and I gived it some!!
Either that or go EFI and get a good tune
It would have stalled the bike at 2k rpms now it'll be sadly over geared because of this
Agreed
It’s a bike motor. They make power high in the rpms . Take it somewhere you can rev it out in all the gears. Then see what it needs
Hey bro, I dont think your coilovers are long enough. An extra 10ft should do it.
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Imma say 11
Sway bars will take care of the Boat feeling/body roll.
yes but not idea for off use
Anthony Toste, I think for the type off roading that buggy would be doing, it would be fine, it’s not a crawler, and sway bars would help out a lot more with the high speed driving and make it feel more stable.
@@REDRUM12345678910 funny how many ATV and UTV hell even sand rail don't keep in mind that sway bars where meant for cornering may guest is the spring are to lite
@@REDRUM12345678910 so would correct spring rates and proper shock/strut placement.
I was thinking of messaging the same thing. Sway bar at least in the rear.
Those exhaust pipes made it look more badass
The style is good but I'd put glass packs on it.
Allen McKinney fuck no
My vf1000 had header pipes 4 in 2 1 with a carbinfiber slip on
You have become quite the engineer over your last few builds. Keep up the good work because its nice to see you get better and be able to see the progression of your welds on each successful build.
19000 PPL are screaming drive it out of the F'in shed!! ;)
Lol, I think the suspension squats and it widens and doesn't fit out the door.
Love it man f****** badass you read my mind
6000 RPM and above is when that motor really wakes up!
that bike has power from off idle. i ride mine eva day. i dnt think its hittin on all 4
Bro i was smiling more than you whenever you drove that badass out of the shop. You have one hell of a talent man, keep it up.
By the looks of your coil overs, they can be adjusted for more preload. Should help eliminate that “boat” feeling. Also, consider adding a rear sway bar. Should stop some of that roll
FINALLY the itch got scratched! been watching like a hawk for this thing to move without you pushing! great work.
Thinks about annealing the steel, though on the tools, decides against it due to wanting to keep the hardness.
10 min later. Full blast with the TIG in one go. Soft steel it is :) .
Superb job though. love the series. Keep it up
I laughed at that too. Like you, I love the series and his builds.
True
Finally see it moving. Thanks man, you made my day way better.
The cage looks tall enough for Cleetus McFarland.I see a jack shaft as a possible option.Easy to change gearing and help with chain routing.
Can't beat that feeling of your first outing in your project.
your seats look really concerned about something.[
I can now no longer unsee the faces on the seats now.
Michael Andersen Same😂
What has been seen can not be unseen...🤯
Butt...think about it, some one sits on their face...I bet they were made like that on purpose 😂🤣
hahaha
I see it 😂
With the size of that thing it looks like you could put a V6 or even squeeze in a small block! It looks sick!
Never stand up. The tubing is way too small and way too many weak spots (dead tube ends, big open areas with no triangulation, bends put in areas with no support). Maybe a g10 out of a geo metro but anything bigger will crumple it.
neo 71665 I’m just saying it’s got a lot of room where the engine is
@@melted_pistons cringe
🔥🔥 That awesome! The hard work is paying off
Vasily Custom Builds one day you are going to build buggy’s like this
You could push the axial sprocket out to make room and put a Jack shaft behind the axle. But the powerband on that motor is at higher rpm so you could try to redline it out of the gate but then again low end gearing will help to save the clutch with such a heavy vehicle. So maybe try the 10 tooth I think you will just need to mess with it but everything is there to make it work you just need to tinker with it and it will work the way you envisioned. Excellent job bro you really accomplished your goal of a high end looking top quality store bought machine.
You are going to be a awesome fabricator. Every build gets more intricate. Great job!
yes..this young man will only get better and better...would be awesome to see him be able to open up his own custom/fab shop some day...
already is
I think he already is
Its a good thing you have YT fans to help you live life. Because living life alone, well you know.
This is the one I've been waiting for! Can't wait for the other sprockets!
Your videos just inspired me in some way. Now I somehow understand what mechanic is, how all these ridiculous cylinders + bolts make other parts to move somehow, and how you can weld things and they are capable of keep the construction whole. Cool stuff you know. Wish I had these tools and workbenches to practice something of this one day
Honda Civic engine like a Kimini and sway bars... Real power/torque, LS diff and trans (with Reverse), I think the chassis can handle it. Nice work.
I agree he needs low-end power for such a heavy buggy, but why not just use a Civic engine AND transmission; it'd be much smaller and lighter. Maybe something simple like a D16A with a 5-speed?
Most of the comments are things that people think you are doing wrong or along those lines anyway. I wanted to say that your project here is super badass!! Any type of custom vehicle will have its issues to be worked out no matter how much you plan and try and get it on the first try. That's just the nature of the beast really. Everyone saying rev it out to make it go, I'm sure hes aware of this but that is not very good for the clutch and other drivetrain components so having the proper setup IS the fix for it not more gas! Even though more gas is the fun way, it's not the right way!! Having all the different front sprockets will give you a ton of gear options for different places you can go, like more trail stuff having a lower ratio or if going to the dunes when u can go flat out with a bit higher ratio. Plus you can play around with different tires and or sizes and still be able to gear it how u want to that sweet spot because yes people the tire size changes the overall ratio it will have so options are always good to have!! I really dig this buggy man cant wait to see it ripping around some day here soon!!!
i think the tyres look to small but thats just me
Glad I wasn't the only one
Ya but then he will have to gear it down even more
They look small compared to cage it's not just you.
Freddo 1345 for a 1100 cc touring engine is it almost too big look at mine profile photo that is a kawasaki 1400cc racing engine and the tyres are smaller than he have
Freddo 1345 yes they do look very small
This thing is turning out badass. I think the problems it has aren't a big deal. You can work through them. Sway bars. Transmission. Plus that engine likes to sing. Opening up the throttle isn't a bad thing.
Rear sway bar not a bad idea it will help it handle better! Again not obligated but i would try it you can always remove it if you don’t like it! keep up the good work!
Put disconnects on it. That way when in the woods and you need it to flex out you can unhook it. When on flat fast trails run it hooked up. Something as simple as tractor pins works fine.
Just a front bar. a fat front bar will promote over-steer which is your friend in lose conditions
Thoughts:
-You can run your chain to a sprocket on an idler shaft, it looks like you have enough space behind the engine and above the axle for it. Use that to gear down and send a second chain back to your sprocket on the axle. This will give you many options on gearing and also the space to mount yet another sprocket on the idler and add a electric motor for reverse. You will of course have to bump out either the sprocket on the engine or the sprocket on the axle so that the chains can live beside each other. If you bump out the sprocket on the engine you can fab a bracket and bearing so that the force put out on the drive sprocket (drive sprocket shaft at this point) is supported from both sides and not just the bearing in the engine case. Considering how much torque the engine will be putting out to move that big boy this wouldn't be a bad idea.
-Size, man that thing is BIG! Don't get me wrong, I like that, and it gives you a platform to graduate to a larger powertrain. A lot of buggies that size and weight use an ecotec or acura engine and a Modeola transaxle. Those (the transaxle) are REALLY expensive though, so my thought was that if the bike engine turns out to not be enough, just plug and play a fwd engine out of a Cobalt SS or something of the like and order some super strength CV axles.
-It's your baby. These ideas are just what went through my head while watching, but ultimately it's already awesome and you've done an amazing job! Thanks for the cool vid, it's inspiring.
Motorcycle engines go to high revs for a reason; That's where your power kicks in.
Give it some throttle and you can go.
This is such an amazing build, absolutely amazing. The only thing off is the tyres are a bit small but still looks amazing
And take it from someone who races bikes you have to get into the higher rev range to get that thing moving properly, because that engine is very capable
Looks and drives good. Looks a little cartoony with how high the roof line is but that's just my opinion. You did an awesome job. Not many people can do what you do.
Personally I would have angled the top cage down at the front like his smaller rail Karts , it looks like onr of the Murry off road buggies I think , but still a awesome build ....
I'd rather have headspace with a helmet. Banging your head on a steel cage is going to really hurt.
Sometimes problem solving is all about trial and error. Plus it a great way to learn. Gearing issues can and will be addressed and resolved. Just keep working at it. Awesome build.
You need to make that thing street legal
I agree that would be cool
Eddies blacksmithing I have a big Yerf Dog Spiderbox and I am hoping going to street legalize it soon.
All of his go karts were legal but for the street only for he is doing that for years I'm a big fan
Not in highway
Billy737 no way it would pass any type of inspection to get titled lol
Think it's funny how people don't like the look of it but don't even have the skill to even think about building one keep up the great work you're smart enough to get it
Doing a great job man! The reason I personally don’t put a bike engine on my builds is the poor clutch 😂 Toque is the name of the game
Rather B Welding is basically just a guy with a shed, a welder and a dream
Pro tip, man: If you heat a hardened steel part to red hot, it's not going to be hardened any more.
Haha yea i thought the same thing, i would have hardened even if just a test sprocket. Cause its fun.
If you were to heat it red hot, drop it in a bucket of oil, it will help it to retain some hardness in the metal....
It’s always a great feeling when you drive your creations for the first time.
Guess you either need to modify the gearbox or put a reduction gear, which you could also use to reroute the final drive chain and get rid of two problems at once.
Its already crazy low geared.. Look how slow he is moving even with the rpms reving..... It's just heavy., he's never gonna have the out of gate acceleration that he wants.
@@calholli That thing never hit any respectable RPM's... it's a race engine designed to hit 10-11k rpm, he probably didn't hit half that. If he did, it was when he was in his front yard and the wheels spun. He's driving this like it's a go cart and it's not. That's the actual issue. He doesn't know how to take advantage of this engines power band. For reference, this thing makes peak torque at 8k rpm and peak HP at 10k. It's also worth noting that this is a 30-35 year old engine, it may just be tired.
@@calholli actually you are right, but it might also be the engine needs to be adjusted. Maybe its not generating power?
I agree. A jack shaft reduction would fix both and if he did it kinda like a lower unit in an outboard might even be able to squeeze reverse in there.
@@bobdole9163 I agree with you.. he doesn't have a clue how to handle the power, or where the power band is.. That's what I said in another post.. he looks like a noob. lol... He'll figure it out as he drives it more, but what he really needs is to let someone who knows about sports bikes get in and drive it... so He will see what it's capable of.. It's already plenty low geared... maybe too low.. You can tell by how slow it is going as the engine revs... these bikes will do up to 80mph in first gear, because thats how tall the gearing is....... Like you said, just give the thing some gas and let it scream.. the power is there- I promise........ Let me ride it. lol
Working super well down low. ........Just my opinion, some larger wheels and you've got a full-on competetive buggy. Love your shop! So jealous with the bridgeport and all the pro cyclic welding equipment. I know this is what you do! It's just awesome to see a shop like that.
Awesome! But I think the exhaust might be a little restrictive.
I agree
More noise doesn't always equal more power. His problem is with gearing. That needs to be resolved first.
It definitely is
@@Buck1954 wasn't referring to noise I was referring to back pressure and throttle response...a restrictive exhaust causes less power.✌
@@mikeshobbiesandrandomstuff I've also seen that not enough restriction also causes loss of power. Depends on how the engine was designed to create power.
The smiles per hour are real with this one.
It looks like you still have the motorcycle trans still. Dont change the gears too much, just use the transmission
Austin Abel what are you on about?
@@JaySinsGarage He's saying to stop being a pussy and let the clutch out and give it gas. lol
Have actually rode one of those bikes,, it's a top end motor ,power band is up top, the bike was a rocket
could do a jackshaft so the engine drives a 60 tooth then goes to a small gear and go to a 60 tooth again should lower the ratio enough
you still have the problem with the sprockets being too close and in line , you might be able to solve that by mounting the axle the other way around or switch the brakedisk with the sprocket so the sprocket is on the other end of the jackshaft
I agree, running a jackshaft would also eliminate the need for a chain tensioner.
Wait awhile before you worry about the engine smoke, give it a few heat cycles and maybe try some high mileage engine oil.
Gearing problem, pick-up or order a copy of Boats & harbors. A lot of adds in there that apply to millions of things. Look for a reduction gear 2nd hand lots of good deals as well.
If nothing else you did a awesome job on the frame work. Best of luck finding the fix.👍👍
you built a race car and your trying to idle it around your driveway...:)
Far from a race car. Way too many issues with the cage layout and sizing.
I built one with a vf700. You got a lot more yours. I dig it!
Great to see it moving under its own power great job. Ps you look like a little kid in it the drivers area is so big. Nice job maybe a jack shaft to get the gearing right but that's a lot of work
Honda definitely makes some of the smoothest running and sounding vtwin and v6 engines in the world.
It doesn't make any power at 4000 rpm. Look at the power curve. Max power near 10,000 rpm. Even babying it on the street in a bike you would shift it at like 7000+ rpm
That’s the coolest thing you’ve built in my opinion it’s just awesome you built it yourself!
The reason the endmill didnt work is cause you were climb cutting. You were spinning the work piece the wrong way
Yeh nothing to do with the fact it was hardened
It’s because he was using HSS and not carbide.
The toe on the gas is pointing to high, just a though. Just picked up your show with much enthusiasm.! Thank you for sharing...! Thumbs Up..!
I love your videos man keep it up 👍
David Siems you are not frist
Who cares who is first damn
Idk
You are by far the best as far as building these types of gocart buggy's on here
This is so much better then a stupid CVT Polaris.
Polaris would be awesome if it didn't have that stupid rubber band .
Obd1andDown Yamaha yxz 1000r has a manual stick
@@Thekeithbrewer Those are way too expensive for what they are, old sandrails are 2k and more interesting.
Obd1andDown fuck no they are badass
Obd1andDown ride in one and you will change your mind
YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS SKILLS IN THE SO MANY AREAS, I STAND IN ADMIRATION OF YOU !!!!!!! GREAT WORK!!!!!
Oh my god
I m waiting for this sins first episode of the build💪💪💪💪
Youre the best💜💪💪
That’s gotta be a super satisfying feeling finally driving it.
Negative Nancy says WD-40 is like the worst cutting oil you could use, just use 30w oil
tap magic works great also
Although I agree about the WD-40, you're not just looking for lube. You have to keep the bit cool. That's mostly why they dull.
This thing inspired me to do a full suspension job on my stiff chassis buggy.
Easy on the cold start bro #SaveTheEnginesLife
the facial expression of the bucket seats is priceless. they look skurd and dissapointed lol
you gotta just send that thing
Exactly.. stop idle-ing around in the yard... It's already crazy low geared.. He just has to learn how to drive it better....... It's a heavy tank, there's no getting around that. acceleration is never gonna be there like he wants. I bet it will still fly though.. plenty fast enough.
That's a big frame for that small engine. V4 a bit more torquey than an inline-4 of the same displacement, but even so, the torque is what shifts the weight. This is pretty impressive tbh - you'd think the clutch would burn out. Nice work. Not jealous at all...
I run 14/60 with a gsxr1000. 12/60 should be quite low geared. Are you sure you aren't starting in second gear?
It isn't all in sprocket size. He also has tall tires and it's a heavy frame
Very cool. Good job. It drives like a boat because it's designed for long travel. If you want more travel, you will inherently have more body roll. If you want less body roll, you will need to reduce travel. If you don't follow these positive ralationships you will end up with weird behavior, terrible stability and ride quality, and jacking forces throwing you around. But if you want to make it a little more stable on smooth surfaces I would suggest raising front ride height 2 inches and raising the rear about 1 inch. Also could use stronger springs. If those dampers are adjustable, stiffen them just a bit, particularly the front. If you plan on driving any kind of rough terrain, don't add sway bars; that would make it bouncy. It's a buggy. Learn how to drive it like one.
Can't wait to see this thing hit the trails!
Your bogging something that has near 10,000rpm. Rev it out man.
You keep me up at night mate what brilliant worker your are paddy from Ireland good luck in all what you do
That's Awesome Chris ! Even sounds like you have a blower on it.(hint,hint)Do they make an 9 tooth?
The moment the new sprocket fixed the problem I wanted to hit 10 more thumbs up!
Make your own sprocket there is a lot of UA-cam videos on how to do it and you have all the tools to do it
Why? He has plenty to choose from...
I’m just saying if he has to go bigger on the back or for the future projects
You have a very rare talent I couldn't believe how you custom made that sprocket that was too cool. Now all you need is a set of 35 mudders LoL!!!!!
Sounds like you were In 2nd dude
Kris Dewar yeah aren’t these 1 down 4 up transmission? If he was shifting just up he might be putting it in second.
@@retrox684 yeah mate they are most proper bikes are like that
@@retrox684 he has had several bikes over the years. I'm willing to bet that wasn't the problem.
It needs some open roads and farms to let loose in, big off road beast, find somewhere you can open it up, will be smiles for miles!
As for the gearing, for every 1 tooth you go down on the front, it is the same as if you were to add 3 teeth to the rear. So if you went with a 12 and stock was 17, that's the same as going up 15 teeth on the large sprocket. Hope that helps. Glad to see the thing finally running!
I love watching this video, it is very detailed and everything he work done alone..
Building things most people only dream about. That is badass! Nice work!
Exquisite TIG welding on that sprocket hub
3:52 - O man, I feel bad for those seats... They look like they've seen some stuff. 😂
The lawn was getting better.chris strikes again.!
OH BABY MY PANTS ARE FLOODED WITH EXCITEMENT!
I am obviously not driving but the gearing looks as good as you'll get. It's pretty heavy but I bet that thing will have you doing your signature laugh if you open it up on the streets.
Check all exhaust pipe make sure you don't have a dead 1. 2. It should make 100 + H P. And lots of torque!!! THAT . BUGGY. IS. AWESOME. 🇺🇸✌✌👍👍👍🇺🇸
great video! A set of anti sway bars well help the body role issue a used set of something like a rzr would likely work fine and be relatively cheap.
A pleasure to watch. Thanks for sharing.
This makes the VX800 cart look like weak sauce you didnt disappoint on this build it has awesome lights and sick shocks. The Honda VF build makes the gs500 look tiny thank you for the incredible uploads keep up the good work !
Use this gearing for bigger wheels then if you cant change the gearing
Great video buddy. As another fellow said a few sway bars should help with the boatiness. Brilliant project. You did very well to hold yourself back from tearing off up the road.
The whole shifting question is (imo) preferential in this case.
The "standard" way of shifting down when pushing forward (up) is probably derived from rally.
When under hard braking it's easier to push forward to step down through gears, and likewise when under hard acceleration it's easier to pull the shifter towards you.
This is of course not an issue in this vehicle, as you probably won't be doing 100 mph downshifting...
Jocke Thörngren It’s actually standard for sequential and dual clutch gearboxes. “The wrong way” is for automatic transmissions with a manual shift option.
Get the carbs synced and tuned to the the restrictions, intake and exhaust.very cool though
Also from my experience building similar things the chain position plays a big role.. u see the sudden change in direction of the chain coming from the bottom of the main sprocket to the drive gear.. u have way less stress and powerloss with a straight and freely rotating chain...
I see the jack shaft idea has been mentioned a few times, but what about putting portals on the rear end? It could give you way more gearing and ground clearance. I see them on 4x4 buggy’s all the time, but I’m sure you could build a pretty BA set for your rail.
With that engine, id ave made it a single seater with a narrower frame but thats what these builds are all about trial n error. Love ur shed by the way
You need to teach John and Ike how to put lights on their projects. I don't know how many times I've seen them test drive something in the dark without any lights not even a cheap headlamp.
Outstanding ! Young Man... you are great rep for for your generation.
Realy waited a long time for this monster to hit the road
Finally the time had came excited
AWESOME CRAFTSMANSHIP!! the Honda 1000 motor makes plenty of power bro! With it geared right it will haul some ass! that motor also likes the higher RPM, let that beast REV!!