This Changes Everything
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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Turki Alalshikh is in talks for a super league involving eddie hearn's Matchroom Frank Warren and Queensbury Toprank Golden Boy and PBC, since Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou weve had the undisputed Fury vs Usyk and it feels like all the fights we have ever wanted to see are now being made. But what's in store for Turki Alalshikh and his league?
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There being so many belts is exactly the reason someone can be a world champion and you have never heard of them 😂
What, you think Rolly Romero wasn' t legit?
Who?@@marccreation1052
@@marccreation1052he isn’t, blokes a 🤡🤡
I'd make it so it's only 3 titles per weight category as one doesn't work for boxing..as boxers only box once two twice year.
@@saqib7965this is one of the most retarded sentences ive ever read.
lowest ranked fighter at the end of every season gets called into the embassy and never seen again.
😂
I thought they just chopped their hands off?
@@morgan1985uk It depends. Chopping hands is pretty old-fashioned, they still do it in villages. Saudis in particular send them to construction jobs and pretty they are modern-day slave.
🤣
@@samanthahydeker7914 they bring Asians in for construction.
Saudi money doesn’t talk it shouts!
SCREAMS!
They even own The Premier League and it's Referees.
The best fight the best. No ducking
Everyone, minimum 4 fights per year. Injured fighters get replaced. No hold ups.
@@scabthecat Delusional to think this will happen when you have no idea what it costs both the fighters and the people paying them.
@scabthecat yeah that's too much. 3 is ideal with no looming injuries.
@@TheStraightestWhitestUFX fighters get paid a fraction of the paydays boxers get but they fight that often.
@@1chaka You can't compare the two. Boxing has a history and recognition and is watched all over the world. The world knows about Ali and Tyson. I can't even name one current UFC champion.
"Silver ginger continental belt" had me cracking up lol
Turkey needs to EMPLOY PROPA to promote his fights.
He did already
he already is involved
This channel is already under his control.
I would love to see him get ShowBizz involved too
@@ichloe9 You people don't see it?
It's never good when one man owns everything but this belt circus must end.
Hasbro has a monopoly on Monopoly.
@@samuelhannan5420hasbro don’t have a history of luring journalists to a consulate before murdering them cos they disagree with what the journalist wrote.
BOXERS own boxing, bro. Just cos Turkeys Halall Shake might be organizing everything and whatnot, if the boxers don't turn up then THERE IS NO BOXING!
It has to be a partnership. But the parasites have to go, one way or the other.
@@samuelhannan5420do they? I thought they just made Transformers? I never knew that
No the worst thing is when a corporation owns everything. Turki doesn't mind losing money on great events, but corporations must always suck out as much profit as possible at all times. The fighter salaries for UFC are a joke when you compare it to the profits they make.
Boxing super league??? Love that idea
yeah fr
Yeah is definitely a good idea. Boxing needs some structure and also updating. The UFC model is just great for the fans
@@MoralesCorner The UFC model is the worst there is. The judging, reffing, and ducking never ends.
@@TheStraightestWhitest The worst ever ducking in UFC is at most someone holding up a division for a year. Boxing people like Tyson have ducked AJ for over 5+ years in the making so it's not even close
A super league is kinda a natural evolution from the team based 5v5 formula. I think the problem is that its coming from Saudi, we can all agree its sports washing at its most blatant...but by the same token Turkiye comes across as a genuine and legitimate boxing fan.
The problem is if you look at a unified organisation like the UFC the fighters make peanuts and the ownership make bank. Boxers already have a history of being exploited, and it's only likely to get worse if they dont have the ability to negotiate with leverage.
Historically, great artists would have a "patron", which is just a rich guy or prince that likes that person's art, and supports him financially. Turki is like a patron of boxing. He really loves boxing and respects the boxers.
The UFC on the other hand is a soulless corporation that must make bigger and bigger profits every single year. If a corporation fails to make a profit they can legally be sued by their shareholders for breach of fiduciary duty. There is the difference.
@@TeacherDoug7yes but what happens after he is no longer here
This guy is single handedly saving boxing!
sad that saving the sport only works by brute force money
@@kuschelwuscheII don't care WHY they fight each other!
@@kuschelwuscheI tell me something that doesnt work by the force of money.
@@jurgenzimmermann2786 happiness, integrity, friendship, love, art, satisfaction, family, experience
@@jurgenzimmermann2786 happiness
WBC Silver ginger continental belt. Uncle you make me laugh . Quality content
The Fridge Magnet 😂
"Gold and silver franchise fridge magnet, that no one gives a f**k about." (I've just nearly spit my pint out. 😂😂😂)
You watch UA-cam videos in the pub ? Bet your a great laugh on a night out !!!
A kind of "super League" for boxing already existed in the form of the Muhammad Ali Trophy, tournament-style competition whith all champions & top contenders of a given weight class. (Notable winners being dre Ward, Inoue & Usyk himself). And it absolutely delivered imo.
Idk about the saudi plans but a 'league-style' tournament in boxing (/ fighting sports) is unfeasible, but I'd love to see another tournament to unify the belts in at least one weight class
Exactly the super series is adequate enough, just bring that back.
"I didnt want to be in the league anyway" 😂
Uncle propa had me in tears with that one he always brightens my day the mad man 😂
im crying laughing at that
With the current model of boxing everyone's a champion. That's what puts people off boxing is the incredibly complicated system as everyone has a belt and most of them you've never heard of it. Simplify it and make it like the UFC model where you have 1 champion per weight division and all the ranked opponents need to face each other to get a shot at the champion.
Agree with the one exception, as HW division in UFC is now a fuckin shit show, as Jon Jones is stalling the division.
The way boxing used to be you mean
@@Dex2024Is that really how boxing used to be? What changed it?
@@otaieb48 greed and TV companies.
Boxing has a long history of association with dubious bankrollers, the Mafia, Don King the convicted murderer, Kinahan cartel and brutal dictatorships like Zaire's Mobutu, now it's the Saudis turn. That's boxing for you, still love the fight game though.
Absolutely, though this is sportswashing on a scale rarely seen since the Roman Empire. Most fans don't care about the horrors perpetrated behind the scenes so long as they get their spectacle. If the boxing bodies had done their job, SA wouldn't be needed.
It's more about Saudi showing you who they are, rather than what you hear about from the media for years.
It’s mental when you think about the old era fighters who fought at the top level every 3 weeks with records of 186 fights or something. Guys like Archie Moore who was still fighting champions at the age of 65! With gloves that barely had any padding and rules and refs that didn’t stop the fight until someone was half dead and sagging on the ropes. Boxing back in those days was insane!
The idea you suggested about drug testing is bang on the money Propa💯🥊🔥🔥🔥🔥
100% about telling friends about title fights who havent followed boxing in 30 yrs
Strap in for the boxing revolution!!!
Should just do tournaments in certain weight classes that need it every year.
Remember K-1 Grand Prix? Boxing should do that! I don't mind watching seven 4-round fights in a row to determine a champion out of eight contenders in a single night. And no fighter would have to fight more than 12 rounds total.
Mate they stopped those for a reason 😂
@@nUmBskulLL they stopped the WSOB and WBSS because of Covid mate. The Sauderlands had no choice but to stop it... So yes, there actually was a reason...
Propa's on the payroll :( Great atmosphere in Saudi isn't it 😢
Nahhh you can’t prove that. Wait.. maybe we can
He 100% is🤣
I’d say it’ll mostly be in Saudi but like the ufc they’ll probably travel to different countries as well
Well he’s right about how it will be better for the sport
Great atmosphere for fights nobody wants
As a fairly casual boxing fan, I don't care about belts at all. I just want to see the best fight each other.
2:12 Never seen Voldemort crack up like that before
Dear Unc’ just wanna say this channel is the golden dildo of any boxing channel out there. Just started listening to the podcasts. Fucking good gear!! Big up Propa boxing!!
Bish bash bosh 🥊🥊
As a huge UFC fan, I think this is a great idea. No more ducking fights.
The Manny charr 3% to the WBC =£4 had me in stitches for ages😂😂😂
I needed a laugh this morning. propa always deliver.
I don't know about a boxing super league, but when I saw Usyk holding up a belt that said Undisputed that Turki gave him, made me wish that there was only one belt per weight division. I wish there was a way for Turki or anyone else to merge the four different sanctioning bodies into one.
That's what made you wish there was only one belt? The one belt that looks like it was made out of a cornflakes box.
Been saying for years. Each of the 4 sanctioning bodies buy an equal stake in the Ring belt, then use their own belts as eliminators for the actual ring title. The rest can be fringe world champions and have 1 clear champ in each division.
Personally I'd love to see them bin all the belts and just have one overnight, but that won't be allowed happen.
or just have an indisputed title in every division - the only one people care about that he owns. doesn't need the other titles if the undisputed belt is genuinely held by the best fighter in the world and not passed around on politics.
It's one of the things that appealed to me in MMA as a kid. I couldn't memorize however many champs for however many weight classes in boxing
Everyone talking like most champs don’t fight 1ce maybe 2ce a year boxing would become so fucking stagnant and a champ could easily hold the division when ever he wanted if he was the only one.
@@2moreminutes As a kid? When I was a kid, UFC was an 8 person (or 16 person) one-night, single elimination tournament. Now THAT would be great for boxing, but you'd have to have like 4 round fights.
Keep holding hands anything can happen ❤
Love your content brother. We need more. Would love if the double excellent turkey gives propa a job❤
Brilliant informative and amusing video as ever , nice one Propa 👍
One of the things i like about UFC is that people dont get binned as soon as they take a loss because the best are fighting the best.
Whereas boxing has so many journeymen to pad fighters records and make them seem invincible.
Yeah with the UFC you assume that people are going to be taking a loss here or there, it's only if they start having a consistent string of losses that you start to lose faith in a fighter - even then some of them have turned that around.
Well look how people treat Fury now that he's lost. This is your own faults. If you were more accepting of losses, fighters wouldn't fear taking risks.
@@TheStraightestWhitest To be fair Fury is a cocky bastard and a lot of people are just glad to see him be taken down a peg. Even as a Fury fan I want to see him be more humble.
@@TheStraightestWhitestfury gets that treatment cause hes a clown and had held up the hw division for years
nice explanation Propa, cheers
Ive been an avid supporter of boxing since a was 16 years owld so going on 30 year now and im loving the direction its taking, high and lows watched it all, but a can genuinely see the saudis are gunna fix the broken format we've been so used to that weve known nowt else, am all for it, let's see what the next few year bring 👍
I have followed boxing a long time and never concerned myself with percentage of governing bodies but wtf explains a proppa lot cheers proppa ❤❤
It just gets better and better 😀
Three cheers for the double excellent, Turki Alalshikh…
6:17 The Jarrell Miller impression was gold.
BOXXER has their route to Saudi through CBS. If he unifies, the double excellent will have the undisputed with Opetaia in Saudi no doubt. Really looking forward to see what this league is all about. Best vs best, sign me up. Launch it on your own platform and your laughing. No offense, DAZN, TNT, ESPN etc etc, but this could truly be the one subscription for all the boxing id need.
Heres hoping the league wont ignore the smaller names coming through., but based on him getting Mark Chamberlain over, I have hopes plans will be in place to make sure they wont be forgotten.
The only downside I see with this right now is that it will create a monopoly. It might be the solution for fixing the boxing circus at the moment, but it will eventually and inevitably go down the shitter like any other monopoly always does.
Big up Uncle 👏🏻
Great vid Propa. Don't think we will hear anything on this for a while but love the conversation
World Boxing Super Series is a great format. The eight best in their respective division.
It gave us an Undisputed cruiserweight champion in Usyk.
Exciting times ahead for the 🥊 consumer regardless happy days cheers fella 👍👊
Fantastic idea, at present you can have world champions who fight nobodies and avoid the fighters that all fans know will be dangerous to them, to avoid the risk, but they still claim to be the best in the world.
Hope it happens, one world champion at each weight
Absolutely needs to happen. Boxing has been cannibalising itself with these belts and sanctioning bodies for some time now. The idea of being a "world champion" is completely meaningless if there could be hypothetically 3 other fighters claiming to be the "real" champion, because they have a different coloured belt. It's so hard to be undisputed not only in a boxing sense, but a bureaucratic sense too, all the bodies want a piece of the pie. Scrap them all, why should we be loyal to them? What loyalty do we owe to them? They don't give af about the fans
That was piss funny! Props to you.
I don't know how I've missed this channel in the past but, I'm subscribing right now to ensure I don't miss it in the future.
In regards to the super league of boxing; it's certainly an interesting concept and would hopefully give the fans the best fights, though I wonder how you get promoted and relegated to and from it once the initial boxers are picked. Say a young protege comes along, how would they get into the league? Would they have a 2nd division, 3rd division etc like football or would it just be down to Turki's choice?
Keep up the great work! I look forward to your future posts.
Why-TF not?! Thank you Turkey👌
Boxing and flight of the concords. Genuis
Top class 💯on point👌👍🇬🇧🥊
Great idea
good stuff . lets see how it goes
Big up flight of the concordes
On one hand you get amazing fights, on the other you get an atmosphere where if somebody shows excitement and yells after a knockout or something they get dragged off and never seen again
Fridge Magnet belt looooool
🤣😂🤣😅😆😆
I grew up watching boxing all my life and only recently started to understand the belt system in boxing🥊
They really do need to stay considering a consolidated league because fighter pay is getting in the way of generational fights!!
This way no one can duck anyone and the fans get the fights they deserve
Big propa
Saudi fights are fire tbh. The stage, Arena, the walk out setups. Fury’s ring walk was the best I’ve ever scene. They’re cinematic.
Every time I try and explain the belts to my wife she responds with, “That sounds stupid”. And I’m forced to say, “Yup”.
We've been spoiled!
🤣😝😂😝🤣😝😂Outstanding Content production
Paulie Maragarita - I was pissing myself. 🤣
He is my excellency!!!!
A bangon vid this . The Super league would indeed be rid of the greed from the WBC. The latest and most obvious case for corruption was in the face of the world when a WBC judge gave the Usyk Fury fight 117 - 112 to Fury . It's now at the point of blatant corruption because noone challenges it. Bravo for calling this out in such a diplomatic way. Bangon
Mauricio salami 😂fantastic
They should take a leaf out of the old WWF and have midcard belts, like the Intercontinental Championship, European, Hardcore and Divas titles
The Turkey is truly excellent
Mr super duper putting on a show
Nice flight of the concords reference
There needs to be change the UFC model is not it. That causes less rights for the boxers, a lot less money for the boxers, less freedom to do what they want. The UFC model is horrible for fighters and isn't any better for fans, as fighters are still protected, the number of fights is around the same as modern boxers which is low compared to the past and drug use is rampant.
Th UFC pay structure sucks, 100%, and will not be carried over to Boxing BUT...The fact that all fighters are in the same promotion and can not duck each other is essential for this broken sport with hundreds of WorldChamps.
@@zGJungle How do we know it won't be carried over, the people creating this would make lots of money if they did. Fighters were not under the same promotion in the past when no ducking occured, and that was because a loss meant so much less, as your ability was based off of what was seen in the ring, it is the fans fault and fighters who left undefeated due to avoiding which is the issue. UFC has protected fighters and ducking occuring all the time. Make it so there are less belts that's how you do it not just have a UFC style promotion 🤦♂️
@zGJungle they can be in the same promotion and still duck each other or get 'underserved' title shots, happens all the time in the UFC too....
The model is fantastic, they just need to pay better. It’s a simple fix!
@@ethnicalbert but why would they pay more this model is designed around paying less. What is fantastic nothing will change and without other major promotions things could get much worse
This would be brilliant
The best finally fighting each other
And the drug cheats gone for good
Say what you want but Prince Turki has, so far, done nearly everything right and may be saving boxing and making it great again. Utter dream cards and fighters actually fighting each other in their peaks every 3 to 6 months so we really really see who rises to the top not by 2 bouts over 2 years to carefully chosen styles etc.
Turki making boxing great again! MBGA!
If it gets everyone actually fighting eachother, that's great
But what does it mean for the lower level fighters that don't have a huge following yet? This only sounds like a good idea for the ones who are already household names
It's always been that way
@@seanisnotjohn that's true, but at least prospects get get built up fighting different styles of opponents.
With this, prospects would have to fights champions in order for it to sell.
That’s almost as many different belts as Man United has football kits
Almost but not quite
Imagine being a Man United fan
Once upon a time @@SirSalter
And titles
Big ol turkey going in!
His Excellency has a good idea, and if Frank and Eddie are onboard the others will be wise to follow.
About time too. C'mon Turki.
About fucking time someone stepped in to clean up the boxing mess!
Technically there are more mma organizations than the UFC thats just the biggest
People forget this.
IBO starting to look more legit by the second. Great video, as always Uncz. BOSH!
Rather than buy out the promotion companies, why not buy all the sanctioning bodies. Then they’ll have the power to enforce exciting mandatories and can actually make the champions fight each other. That achieves the same goal as the league without having to make a complicated league structure
Good thing about Boxxer is they fight in UK. Thank you big Turkey
Its a bad idea.
The champ cant fight all other 14 in the league, as that would take 7 years.
Also....
Eddie wont give up his ring masters role, he loves it too much.
This is gonna end up splitting boxing even more in the long run.
Imagine Eddie sells up and one year later he starts up Matchroom 2.0 to compete in a new league (sorta identical to the format we have today 😉).
Here is my 2 cents.
There is this super league with their own belts.
Call it the TBL (Turki Boxing League) or what ever.
When you win a belt you have to defend it with in 4 months.
You can only fight for a TBL belt in a TBL fight, no other belts from other boxing associations can be on the line in a TBL fight.
TBL fights are simple 80/20 split on the purse, 80 to winner & 20 to loser.
Change the scoring system to stop draws.
The TBL fighters are allowed to take other fights outside of the TBL but champions will be locked into that 4 month defend clause.
Winning purses for TBL championship fights will be paid on the next TBL fight.
This will stop a fighter scooping a big payday, the belt and never coming back to the TBL.
As long as no Fury’s are involved it will be propa! Bosh!!
This is how the UFC started, and eventually what it became is a promotion that doesn't pay its fighters near what they're worth.
I like the idea in principle. It just needs to be managed in a way that benefits the fighters before anything else.
Buying up the promotions is less helpful than buying up all the belts, then binning them. You need promotors to sell fights, most fighters are not gobby salesmen, so you need a mouth to get people excited. Its all about priorities, getting everyone paid and fairly, getting excitement and atmosphere and lastly getting everyone shiny belts imo.
Im sorry ben dont look at me in that tone of voice its not my fault your name wasn't mentioned 😂 had me creased uncle propa great work as always bruv 💙👊✌
*ALL HAIL DE DOUBLE EXCELLENT TURKI* 🙌
That argument that the the division doesn't move on is what is happening now so the change could be good
Love this model means more fights, more competitive fights and helps to build coherent storyline leaving the BS at the gates
I think its mad that casuals moan about atmosphere when we are getting the fights we want, the only difference is saudi dont serve alcohol to sniifed up yobs that provide the atmosphere we are used to in the uk or us. Like it or not saudi have changed the game for the better and provide elite fights thats boxing fans want and are paying the fighters plenty to save avoiding the politics that have hindered boxing for decades. As a true boxing fan i dont watch boxing for atmosphere i watch it for great fights!!
"Yobs"? It's fighting so it's all about "yobs"
No it's not, boxing is a sport and true fans enjoy the sport of combat and appreciate the skills that the professionals risk there lives for to provide for there families and to be great at what they do. Half the crowd are out for a good time getting pissed not for the boxing if they were there for the boxing the yobs wouldn't be falling over the place shouting and fighting in the crowd, fans support, yobs support habits!!
This could be the best thing that happens to box in the last 20 years
Unify all the major belts, make it clear who's the best of the best and have the best fight the best. I'm all for it.
I've been saying for years that there were too many belts at world level. I didn't even try to count the others. 1 world belt per weight... and make fewer weight classes as well.
When are we going to see Propa - Turkey promotions ?
It would be best for boxing 😂
Ben catches a stray within 30 seconds 😂