WHAT? AGAIN! New transfer case & gearbox | Land Rover Defender Puma 2.4 TDCi (Winchester Gears)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2022
- Doing again almost the same job as a year ago... New heavy duty transfer case and gearbox from Winchester Gears for our Land Rover Defender 110 Puma 2.4 TDCi. The installation and the short story behind these big changes.
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Big re-build of our Land Rover Defender during 2022 and a lot more to come.
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Great to see all those lovely new parts going in.. I remember my TC was a mess from the factory.. I had to replace every bearing, the counter shaft and adjust all the preloads.
Thanks! Love to have them on :) A shame you had issues right out of the factory. We had a leakproof stock transfer case for almost 120'000km until my husband crashed it offroad ;)
I'd suggest that all the vent pipes are checked both axles tbox and gear box they can block witch will cause presser in the box/axles and will alow oild to pass by the seals causing a leak also depending on how often you drive them that will contribute to leaks if they sit around stationery for more then 2 years your garented for it to leak
upgrades never end
agreed!
Engineered that way. You always have to top up so it’s continuously getting serviced so it should last longer.
The LT230 extended sumo is a winner.
Install a bigger gearbox oil cooler so that you increase the oil volume.
Yes, taking care of some flaws and regular maintenance is key for a long lasting 4x4 and it helps us avoid as much as possible breakdowns while out :)
Hello la Off-Track Family, Très belle leçon de mécanique 😉 et surtout superbe vidéo : images d'une grande qualité et musiques au top 😍 Merci pour ce partage... Bonne continuation et bonne semaine à vous ! Captainriver23 de France
Merci! Bonne semaine à vous aussi 🙂
It made sense to replace the gearbox along with the transfer case. Ye have put a lot of hard kilometers on the defender, so there would be a strong likelihood of needing to repair or replace the gearbox in the future, which would be more expensive in the long run. Expense ye could probably have done without right now, but as ye are likely to be keeping the defender for a long time, it's an investment.
It's exactly our point of view and way of thinking :)
Can't beat a bit of gold bling, not had any issues with mine since fitting.
This is great! For how long do you have it on?
@@offtrackfamily beginning of lockdown, but only just gone back on the road. Handles the power of my engine conversion really well.
Had the ATB fitted at the same time which makes for less clonking. Really pleased with it.
Thank you for the honda fit😊
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Vous avez déjà essayé le garage "Atelier Joko" au Carre D'aval ?
C est sûr et bien avant qu il demenage au carre ;)
Im looking for a 2007, 2.4 tdci trf box repair kit. Is it LT230T i should look at?
Previously all were uprated by Ashcroft right? I just installed refurbished transfer and auto box on my 2.4, all Ashcroft. So far the service was good, hope that it does not start leaking of knocking…
Yes, our previous transfer case was one from Ashcroft. It was leaking for a while. Last year, it was rebuild a second time also with Ashcroft parts but by another craftsman .
It's a landrover it will leak again but maybe not straight away, sorry to disappoint. I no you won't give in knowing all the work you have put into the landrover! Goodluck 👍
I thought they were supposed to leak. You know, for chassis rust prevention. It's a feature, no?
Don't agree with that! We had the stock transfer case for 117'000 km and it Never leaked. Too bad my husband trashed it during an intense offroad day and we had to replace it... then this issue started a few years ago. Crossing fingers this issue is over :)
After nearly 40 years of landrover ownership and 5 landrovers it will. It's a landrover guarantee 😄🤣
Great update, wish I have it for my td4. Did you use the stage 1 or Stage 2 Transfer Box and why?
We have the US Spec one because seemed the best for our always heavy Defender. Triple sleeve casing, brand new gear set with Ashcroft ATB, and 300m shaft
The next thing that awaits you is the replacement of the rear axle, because the weight of your Defender will destroy the existing axle. Anyway, where did they buy the cover for the transfer box.
Cheers to both of you. 🍺&🍷
U and some strong huby you have. 💪
That's possible but not on the list for the moment ;) haha you should ask Winchester Gears :)
@offtrackfamily do you think the reason for this 2nd failure could have been as a result of fitting the LOF Output shaft? I remember reading somebody commenting on your video when fitting the LOF output shaft and he said that because it was solid one piece, it didn't allow for any flex and therefore you'll have issues down the line. Could this have been the case?
I don’t think so. Transfer case was leaking before that replacement. My husband decided to have it rebuilt by this French guy and at the same time upgrade some of its parts. The leaking came back after less than a month. After months of being very disappointed with his way of treating us, we went for a complete new set from Winchester Gears. When removing the old transfer case we were able to confirm it was his bad work that made it re-leak. Nothing to do with LOF clutches part imo. We have the new transfer case on for more than a year and no leaking issues.
Living in North America I put a LS3 engine & Chevrolet running gear in my 1993 defender 110. Easier to get parts for and maintain.
Thanks for your message and sharing the reason of your choice of engine replacement :)
I love watching others videos on there life outside. I am old and it gives me great joy to see young people get out and explore what God has given us. ❤️👍
Did you go for winchester l320 stage 1 or 2 with the Ashcroft diff. I am looking at stage 2 option next.
We've got the US Spec with triple sleeve casing, Ashcroft ATB, 300M shaft, and brand new stock ratio. The best is to contact Winchester Gears if you have some questions :)
@@offtrackfamily very nice bit of kit will be speaking to Winchester soon once my front locking diff arrives from Xcess4x4 and I have it fitted and my bank balance is back to strength 😀
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So that is about Defender, changing and rebuild
Seems like it ;)
@@offtrackfamily
Absolutly
Just need a slick shifter for better gear shifts.
We already have the one from Synchro gear 👍
Very disappointing for you and frustrating keep going forward and smile :-)
It is yes and for sure moving forward and getting things done is more important ;)
It always amazes me how much money people spend on keeping Defenders alive. The love must be very deep indeed. Just get a proper Toyota Land Cruiser these things go on forever.
It's our everyday car + vacation & weekend transporation/home ;)
and we all know Toyota owners also go to the garage for maintenances and repairs even if you try to hide it from the world 😜
@@offtrackfamily With normal maintenance a Toyota is simply better then a Defender. Defenders are cool but just less building quality.
@@Coordinator61 i have a 90 and 110 defender 86 and 88 .200.000 miles plus never had any problems as they are mechanical.still on the original gear boxes too.soon to be replaced.fair point is the body is not as good as toyota. i service it all myself so i got to know them inside out.true they are a labour of love.
Les fuites entre les deux boîtes c’est monnaie courante, donc en somme rien de grave si ce n’est de compléter le niveau de temps en temps… et quand je vois que sur le mien (td5), a 450 000 km la BT ne fait aucune limaille et que le roulement de 5 de la r380 a patiemment attendu environ 420 000 km pour passer à travers, en tirant des remorques au delà du ptra, soit ces changements sont dûs à de lourds défauts de fabrication, soit à un usage foireux 😅.
Oui ce n'est certainement pas si grave. En revanche, lorsque l on fait réviser sa boîte de transfert par une personne qui proclame faire des boîtes sans aucune fuite, on a de la peine à se dire que c est normal qu il y ait une fuite ;)
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haha thanks ;)
Prediction or warning? Whatever it was, I did tell you the transmission wouldn't last... more than likely won't again.
Going good after a year (compared to previous craftsman who did the job where there was an issue after a month).
Briitpart really???
the packaging might not be relevant to the stuff inside
Always disappointing people blame the companies rebuilding.. if landrover them selves could not make them leak free how is your mechanic? Landrovers leak oil.. some can be improved but most are just a loosing battle
We bought our Land Rover brand new back in 2009 and more than half of its life it didn't leak. The stock LR transfer case never leaked. Too bad my husband trashed it during an intense offroad outing at about 117'000 km and it had to be replaced completely.
And yes, I do blame the craftsman who rebuilt our leaking transfer case last year because he positionned himself as the best of the best with many "never-will-leak-again" transfer cases rebuilds going out of his wrokshop. When we notified him of the leak a month after his job to ask what to do, he blamed everyone else, treated me like sh!t, this story went on for a complete year...
@@offtrackfamily I’m sorry it’s worked out that way for you. I personally won’t warrant lt230’s against oil leaks. My puma case was leaking inside of 30,000km. I’ve hardly ever had a defender on the hoist that didn’t have a leaking transfer case. Again I’m sorry you experienced broken promises but hopefully the new case will do the job now. Keep up the good videos.
I agree, if the work cannot be 100% guarantied it shouldn't be done. The story behind all this is much more serious than it might look like. Unfortunately some market themselves as pros when they cannot handle a proper customer service and a real aftersale service. In any case, was best to do a complete U turn and work with a company we know will help us if a problem arise 👍