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Why the New Republic Didn't Place its Capital on Coruscant
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2023
- The New Republic has defeated the empire and driven them from the core into the Outer Rim and Unknown Regions. They've set up defense councils, the New Republic Amnesty program, even ranger patrols in the outer rim. So how come they haven't returned to Coruscant yet? Now that the war is over surely the new republic can finally symbolically finalize their goal of revitalizing and restoring the republic by taking the traditional republic seat of power on Coruscant.
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Senator Ryo Chuchi was another politician who tried to stand up against the Empire. At least tried to fight to ensure that Clones who fought and sacrificed so much could be recognized as citizens of the Empire.
This leads to new question: Where is Senator Riyo Chuchi? I think she will be a worthy successor and as an alternative for Leia.
@@lerneanlionI have a feeling The bad batch season 3 may answer that question.
@@Squiddy-go1du Palpatine made her into an Imperial class Escort.
@@krel3358WHAT
@krel3358 you lie!
I would love a Noir Fiction/Hard Boiled/Cyberpunk movie based on the Asajj Ventress story found in the canon novel "Dark Disciple". She spent a good amount of time on level 1313 on Coruscant.
Not a bad idea, such an underrated character
That was a really good novel, too!
And it was based on a canceled _Star Wars: The Clone Wars_ story by George Lucas's daughter, if I remember correctly!
There was Coruscant Nights from Legends. It was next level.
Let us not forget that by the end of the Empire one had to be a loyal Imperial to even live there legally.
Like the Nazis, some towns were Nazi-only.
But even Coruscant rebelled once Palpatine died
@@moblinmajorgeneraleveryone wants to kill the dictator, after the dictator is alredy dead.
On the upper levels, yes, But many, many lived on the lower levels. Not always legally. Remember, this planet has a population of trillions.
I actually thought Coruscant was the planet Abrams destroyed. I had no clue it wasn't the New Republic's capital, especially since the shows treat it as the New Republic's capital.
It was the new republic capital.
They moved it
Disney didn’t want JJ to destroy Coruscant so he moved the New Republic somewhere else nobody heard of
@@hfaux Yeah I think there would have been outrage from the fans if they'd done that...
You are without question one of the most consistently excellent content creators on this platform. Every video is an absolute joy to watch, great job my friend
My thoughts too. He's definently seen the world. And I love hearing what he has to say
Mon is that one employee who watches the chaos ensue when the company gets bought out and folded into soul-crushing bureaucracy as the new people on the top spend most of their time patting themselves on the back.
Meanwhile LEgends Mon is different so much
Honestly it’s one of those retcons (where they changed things from the books in the shows like Cobb Vanth's backstory, the changes from both the Kanan comic in the bad batch, and the Ahsoka Novel in tales of the jedi and clone wars season 7.) that I considered a good thing since many people dislike the treatment of Coruscant in the post-Endor galaxy so this retcon is a good thing.
Allan Coruscant basically liberated itself and joined the New Republic plus all those tunnels below would be great for any eventual government continuation.
Alan your knowledge of our politics is very impressive and I love how you connect it with the SW galaxies. Your videos are awesome and I really enjoy them. Really enjoying Ahsoka too. 👏
On the contrary. His knowledge of real world politics is terrible.
Little advice, never trust Western Mainstream Media. They always lies about everything.
The fact they didnt prevented them from capitalizing on the opportunity to push galactic philosophy back towards the ideals of the galactic republic. Something which costed them dearly during the Hosnian disaster.
Well, overall the New Republic is a shit show
I recall a passage from ( darth plagues) palpatine is thinking about corusant . He thinks the only way the republic could be saved was the separate the senate from corusant . With the economic and political do close corruption was inevitable. And easy for someone like him to exploit.
I dunno, the Senators are still very influential regardless, they'd have plenty of Corruption wherever they went
@@thalmoragent9344 yes and lobbyists would be an issue. It would just be more difficult. On corusant. All the various power groups from politicians, business and gangsters ect all go to the opera at the same time . .the passage itself explains it better .
@@shanenolan5625 >lobbyists
It's cute how you think the corruption comes from the outside in.
Honestly the worst part of the sequels is how it took all of the incredible sacrifices that the rebels made and made it all pointless. The culmination of all that suffering just ended up being a joke of a government that couldn’t even stop the most obvious enemy and was so weak that it collapsed in a single blow. Kanan, Andor, Luthen, Jyn, and many more peoples sacrifices all made meaningless because Mon Mothma wanted to basically virtue signal.
The biggest error the New Republic made was treating most of the Rebel Alliance as a military force and cutting them out of politics. Leia was the only one who really understood how to coordinate these two groups and her influence was erased when everyone found out she was Vader’s daughter.
leaving the empire would still have been worse. it wasnt in vain for the time that teh galexy was peaceful
*leaving the empire alive
Reality bites.
There were still fascists after WWII, there are still fascists now.
America fought a revolution against an empire, and became no less abusive to its citizens and "non citizens" for another 50 years, and pockets of bad governance still remain 200+ years later...
Preach brother preach
very good point about the companies. You had incorporations such as Czerka. They survived since the days of the old republic (Revan's time) until well after Luke's era. They were mostly weapons manufacturers, but also sold speeders, other things.
That was what I had wondered. Arbitrarily relocating the capital of galaxy away from a planet like Coruscant would have to cause an economic and social collapse. Much like what happened to Trantor in Isaac Asimov's Foundation novels. When his Galactic Empire collapsed, most people had to evacuate because the city-planet was not self-sufficient in terms of things like food production. Mon Mothma's comes across as a well-intentioned but ultimately stupid bull in china shop. She made many idiotic decisions based purely on idealism and ended up causing enormous damage to the very New Republic that she worked so hard to build.
Perhaps Mothma made the best choice from a selection of exclusively bad choices.
How do we know that the New Republic wouldn't have collapsed much sooner had she pushed too hard for a strong military & centralized government policy?
How do we know that she and the New Republic wouldn't have faced mass opposition from powerful factions throughout the galaxy had she gone that route?
@@BugRib - The Republic is massive super-state and pretending otherwise is dishonesty. This was a problem with the Old Republic, as thousands of members increasingly saw it as a Core-centric state that treated everybody else as colonies.
Has she brought smuggling under control? No! In fact, warship parts were being stolen from Republic-run shipyards. Has she reined in Imperial factions who could at least be successful terrorists if they chose? No! Has she prevented the Senate from becoming the same kind of mess that it was leading into the Clone Wars? No!
I refuse to believe that this was the best option. If it was, then Republic doesn't deserve to exist.
@@BugRib, espeically since Mon Mothma had to bypass her colleagues within the top echelons of the Rebellion to build things like the Starhawks built and erk out a win at Jakku.
Allen, that was really good commentary connecting the examples between Star Wars and Europe.
Thank you for giving us the deep dives of all of the Star Wars universe. Greatly appreciated 🙏
Keep going 🤘💯❤️
Loving the high content output, quality hasnt sufferered a bit.
I cannot get enough of this channel. Thanks for all the hard work ❤
Your voice + musings on Star Wars lore are joyful supplements to my work from home days.
Very appreciative!
hopefully one of the stories Pablo hinted at will bring the Lusankya into canon 😁
The idea that Mon Mothma has time for things like this is absolutely ludicrous.
What do you mean?
@@BugRib She has an entire galaxy to run. Presiding over a pseudo court-martial is something that wouldn't be handled by the head of state.
Frankly, the idea of a head of state over tens of thousands of star systems is simply impossible.
@@finnberglander7816You just answered your own question. She has time for this because she isn’t directly running 10,000 planets. For starters, it’s a Republic so the senate does most of the work, but in addition to that most planets also have their own governments that handle local laws.
Great work,you are very insightful in your political parallels. Thank you.
Another great insight into the world of Star Wars. Keep up the good work, Allan
I just found you’re channel today and I never was a big Star Wars fan, just had the days in the nineties and saw the (back then) new trilogy in cinema, but I’m absolutely blown away of it!
Your presenting is amazing, your political examples and explanations of the real word are just amazing.
All while sounding calm and rational.
No unnecessary shouting, just a very friendly and truthful sounding voice.
I’m really happy that the algorithm brought this gem of a channel into my life and I look forward to learn lots about Star Wars in the near future!
Right now I’m a big fan of you and I look forward to become a knowledgeable Star Wars fan.
Thank you very much for the effort you put into this channel, it’s greatly appreciated :)
Love your daily uploads keep up the great work
Coruscant has over a hundred miles deep of layers of floors from the top to the bedrock, with each floor almost covering the entire planet. That is not counting the numerous building spires that go even further above the surface.
If one calculated the surface area of each floor, it is possible that could be as much surface area on Coruscant as equal to the surface area of a thousand Earths.
"day of light" line got me to chuckle
Love the content man
Keep up the good work👍❤️
One of my favorite UA-camrs! Love your show Alan!
Looking back it’s obvious how important that Mando episode your referencing was, even though it wasn’t well received.
I remember that mission from kotr too. for whatever reason I couldn't beat the infected there though
I used to think like you about Coruscant, wow ... how cool. But then I realized that all the forests, all the animals, and all the rivers and lakes had been consumed by this urban take over of a planet !!! Is a planet destroyed by the death star ??? Or is it destroyed by an unending city ???
There's thousands of levels. The original surface is countless miles beneath. There's episodes of clone wars where you can see just how deep it is. The surface is a toxic wasteland and almost a myth due to how deep it is.
Imagine how much feces have to be shipped off-planet.
The planet is fine. Everything that used to be on it, well, what you said. But the planet itself is fine.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Every natural thing has been destroyed ... You think that's fine ...
@@superdivemaster I didn't say that. I said the world is fine. As in the metals, rock, etc.
Standing up to fight is easy until you actually have to look death in the face
Excellent insight as usual!
Star Wars: The Old Republic can give you a lot of this experience, too. Visiting Coruscant, and the ruins of Taris. It's great fun for such an old game, and surprisingly RPG-heavy for an MMO.
Yeah! There's still so much good lore and stuff in that game, it's always a blast to play if you're going at it story wise.
man love this channel only discovered it like 2 weeks ago how did i not find it sooner.
better late than never! and look at all of the wonderful content you get to catch up on
Too many cat videos?
It seems like Coruscant is still the de facto capital where many administrative and military headquarters are housed. Then you have the de jure capital which rotates housing the Senate.
Would love to see a breakdown of the Czerka Corporation from Legends if you ever get the chance ❣
If I wrote something in the new canon about the political situation in the new republic I would have made it be like this. With every new chancellor depending on where there from. The inner mid or outer rim? There are 3 planets in each part of the galaxy that the seat of power would change with every new chancellor that way each rim would have representation
Dang, great video
Great how you tie it back to our real world. Keep up the good work.
Do a complete timeline or explanation of the clone wars or the galactic civil war
I'd love to see a video comparing the world governments to the empire, how far is the UK, EU, USA, Canada from becoming Palaptines empire?
We pride ourselves on being democracies but in truth I think we are close to being the empire
This would indeed be a interesting video, with the pandemic, war and all that there is new legislation being passed every day that fucks over a lot of people and a lot more people who would in the past speak up are now spineless and go along much like the people of the republic who welcomed the empire with tremendous applause.
But that video won't happen for the same reasons listed above
The destruction of Alderaan is the equivalent of a government nuking of its own major cities in order to make a point and demonstrate power. I don't see any western government doing anything even remotely close to this. So no, we're not the empire.
But we do have issues that are similar to those of the old republic. Most of the governing is done by unelected bureaucrats, and the traits people need to rise into prominence within a political party and as politicians, make them terrible leaders of nations. In my native language there's an aphorism that translates to "Voting doesn't change anything, if it did, it were illegal." The past twenty years are not a counter against that.
@@MrAranton Well ... technically Hiroshima and Nagasaki could count as a government nuking a major city to show power
@@Alertacobra12"It's own"
off course it's closer. UK is still somewhat an Empire, but a decentralized and liberalized empire .
Preach Brother!
Brillant exposicion!
Idk but for me this was a great video
Speaking of cityscapes, i do love the city lights behind you out the window there. Nice touch! Long time subscriber here. Love your videos. Cheers!
All Roads lead from Rome that’s coruscent hyperlanes
Great video! Which to move away from corasont is like a Russian government moving away from Moscow to a small central village... Which stuff like that has happened on Earth the Chinese love doing it for exemple but it's as the US knows is really impractical. Which the new republic like the US is so flexible it really does not matter what happens to the capital as there be in the USes case 50 more where that one came from.
If no one obeys, no one rules. For it is not the tyrant who does the damage, it is those who obey the tyrant who do the damage.
Or in paraphrased and translated Punk Lyrics "It is not your fault that the World is how it is. It will be your Fault if it stays that way"
I love this channel because it covers subjects you wouldn't think about in Star Wars...but I'm tired of the current affairs lesson in them...if I wanted to hear about politics in the real world i'll turn on the news
3:20 this shot remind me of Korhal, capital planet of Dominion in StarCraft 2😊
they wanted to copy alderon being destroyed from the first star wars but realised destroying Coruscant would cause more issues than just offending fans, it would cause to much work to write such effects!
The building we see is the Court (with the Republic logo) and I believe this is the institution Padmé was referring to in TPM when Palpatine gave her the choice to sign the Treaty forfeiting Naboo to the Trade Federation or bring it to Court.
Anyone else wondered what does the Republic think of independent systems such as Mandalore, Nevarro and Ryloth? Sure, Ryloth is an ally. And Mandalore and Nevarro appeared to be doing nothing to the Republic like at all. But if the First Order did not come to the scene, will the Third Republic actually try to forcefully annex them one way or another?
Has it been established that Corsuscant is humanity's home planet? I though it was contentious between Corsuscant, Corellia, and another one.
Alderaan.
You can still visit Taris in SWTOR.
I love how you deconstruct everything
Thank you Pablo for saving Coruscant
New title catchy af lol
Aye new vid
Day 202 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS VIDEOS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
KOTOR, for me , was one of the best stories told in Star Wars universe
I feel like u may have (very briefly) mentioned this in another vid recently, but can the purgil be killed? They obviously die of old age etc, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen one killed, and after seeing them go through the minefield seemingly fine, probably just very annoyed, I have to wonder if there are any weapons (short of the death star/starkiller base) that could do it
And love ur vids
Heavy GT . Hopefully you peaked curiosity for the younger Gen to look into the history and become healthy wealthy and wise.
I just want to know what happened to the old senate building and the old Jedi temple/imperial palace after the Empire fell.
Thank you so much for talking about that Russian „Technocrat“ I didnt know that and it makes me sympathize with her. I dont think she had much of a choice to stay or not….
Allan, you ever played combine?
oooh! deeep core planets!
*Generation Technocrat* 😊
….you should really consider starting a world politics/news opinion channel. Listening to your tidbit on Russia was actually pretty fascinating.
The rotation of capitals made sense to entice membership to the growing New Republic however, the strategic location of Coruscant and the infrastructure the planet had made it suitable for political activities.
Korriban>Moraband.
4 those who know
dam you jedi
1:36 fun fact, in the mandalorian it is said that coruscant is NOT located in the exact center of the galaxy
If washington, LA AND New York got wrapped up all together. I don't know what I'd do.
6:34 I think that Senator was trying to hide his outrage cause he seem to be with Mon but less discrete.
I wonder if Mon Mothma knew that Leia was Padme and Anakin's daughter? she definitely knew Luke was related to Anakin
1:20 Allen reached out through The Force.
If we were talking about any other planet but Coruscant I wouldn't be saying this. But I could never figure out why the population of Coruscant would be cheering the fall of the Empire. After 20+ years as the Imperial capital I can't but believe that if you lived on the planet, you worked for the Empire. Your job, your family's financial (if not political) security was tied up with the well being of the Empire. And after 20+ years Palpatine would have ensured that of all planets- Coruscant would be the truest, most loyal in all the Empire. Sure the lower levels would be glad to see the Empire go, but the um, "activities" that were engaged in down there would have been frowned upon & prosecuted by the New Republic as well.
I still have PTSB when i see this Planet bcs of Star wars the old Republic haha :D
Man, thinking about an undercity that never sees natural light just makes me think of the silent movie, Metropolis and how it depicted the people living beneath the city. It would be really interesting to see a Star Wars thing set entirely in the lower levels of an ecumenopolis like Coruscant or Taris.
I hope it's not giving too much credit to Tony Gilroy to think the green and gold Senator in that scene is a perfect example of ducktalk from 1984 (as well as just repeating post-9/11 propaganda verbatim).
All hail the Allen empire
I remember a quote, freedom is never free. The individuals who fought against the empire and tyranny knew they were going to die. Thats just how it is. The first heroes need to die until enough heroes stand up.
I also noticed something that stuck out to me as odd. When Leia is mentioned in this scene they very specifically call her a senator. Which doesn't make any sense to me because 1; I think she should've been Supreme Chancellor, and 2; Senator of what planet? Certainly not Alderaan. I'm not sure if there are rules in the Republic Senate that say a senator _has_ to be a native of the planet they're representing, but it does seem to be implied.
Is senator Xiono Allen’s uncle?
THANK YOU for bringing back that reminder that your allegiance is to the republic, for democracy! Yes!
Wow has he finally started grading his footage??
Did you notice coruscant from space had similar symbols like on peridea?
Looks like Curasant outside your window!!
I am so surprised that you know about Elvira Nabiulina. She is really a very brave woman that tries to do her job well and help ordinary russian people from her position.
KOTOR IS GOATED
Taris scared the hell out of child me
hey when star wars the force awaknes came was Coruscant and naboo spared from destruction from starkiller base
2:36 "the day of light" 💀
The empire really is a text book example how dictatorships are made
"Once the rockets go up who cares where the come down. That's not my department, says Werner von Braun"
11:03 no she wasn't, anyone paying attention knew what was going to happen since 2014
How do we know this is courasaunt? Don't Chandrilla and Hosnian Prime have cities?
Like Trantor in Foundation, Orus in Jupiter Ascending, Fifth Jerusalem in Xenosaga, Imperial Terra in 40K, etc. The center of population is always a target, and is always proof of the old saying, never put all your eggs in one basket.
This is about Star Wars or the US circa 2016-2023?
I always loved Coruscant; extremly high skyscrappers and hover cars/flying cars but never saw the surface of the planet if it has a visable surface as we got one?...
a fantastic comparison with russian central bank