Hey everyone. I am the composer of this remix. This discussion is pretty interesting lol.. The SPC700 outputs at a max sample rate of 32KHz. The sample playback speed goes up to 128KHz, but that doesn't mean these voices are impossible. Can the SPC700 output these vocals with this clarity on an actual SNES? If the sample fits within 52K (with 10K reserved for echo). This remix I made that you're hearing is basically a what-if scenario where if you reserved 2 SPC700's for the 16 channels of audio, and then applied one SPC700 per vocal sample lol. In other words, yeah this song is impossible on a vanilla SNES and was made with Impulse Tracker and applied an SNES echo to it (Using Plogue's chipcrusher 2 VST), and it took liberties, but if the SNES had 16 channels, no memory limits, but kept the FF6 samples..and still output at 32KHz, this is how it would sound.
@@Nugem There is a sort of similiar path, which 8BitDanooct1 took, with the result that the voice samples took up 230kb of memory for a NSF file. The file can be played on a NES emulator. ua-cam.com/video/OpiespNgyEo/v-deo.html
I think next time you should try to compose it with some limitations. It's not bad, but I was expecting something to sound a little closer to what I would expect if I were to use the original hardware.
safer sephiroth looks actually SICK its kinda weird to think that sephiroths's sprite here has more detail than his ps1 model (besides the whole 3d thing)
@@thehedgecatunion2550 In fairness, like most of FFVII, the translation is a mess, and it's suppose to be Seraph Sephiroth, not "Safer". But yeah, he's kind of a pushover, considering his ultimate attack can't actually even kill you in the western version of the game since it's %dmg.
@@cometstar4077 in the JP version of the original game it was just normal magic damage, so it could kill you there. There's lots of ways to fix it, but even as a kid it seemed strange his "super ultimate 2 minute long move" was... basically harmless other than the confusion/slow, and that's easily remedied by giving someone a Ribbon.
@@zapato6071 kefka doesn't really look like one of the higher angels, though. maybe a seraphim if you stretch but he looks more like one of the lower angels than something like sephiroth who was clearly based off of seraphim and artistical depictions of God
I just remembered that a Seraphim is a type of angel with almost no human-like body and wings, which is what Sephiroth looks like, and Sephiroth’s name almost sounds like Seraphim. I’m only noticing this now and it just makes sense to me. What a genius idea the designers must have though of when making this boss. It makes me like the game even more.
iirc, the word “sephiroth” is the plural of the word “sephira” which is some kind of biblical term representing something along the lines of a “tree of life” similar to yggdrasil i think
Tales of Phantasia was one of these rare snes game that use a song for the opening of the game, instead of just reading the song from the file like a normal midi or mp3 file do but instead, it’s directly live streaming from the cartridge in real time because they don’t have the capability to reproduce the voices so… that is how they managed to pull it out.
Me too. But it was going to be an N64 title if PlayStation wasn't a thing. Makes me wonder how it would've looked then since the N64 was graphically more capable than the PS1, but still lacked in a lot of other spaces which made the PS1 beat the N64 by a margin.
Sephiroth is as powerful than ever, unleashing the supernova in a radius meters, centimeter square, and the supernova has a big and gigantic diameter measures. Also with a speed of million kilometers, however, humanity is doomed thanks to Sephiroth. And i like this song as well.
I think if they really tried, they probably could have released ff7 in 1995 or 1996 at the latest. The best snes graphics look more detailed than the early ps1 models, even if the ps1 has better sound and more animations. They probably could have used this kind of music, even with the chorus, since they were good at emulating real chorus singing and real music. Like with Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong, ect. Their stuff was emulated, but that music sounded like real music.
I want to see a real romhack game of Final Fantasy 7 SNES using the Final Fantasy 6 SNES rom engine I'll make one with a team of gaming developers or possibly donate money to the people making one.
@Adam Matlack There's are some versions like that already; in my last remix, for example, I compressed the vocals to sound more like the ones in the Tales of Phantasia Intro Song: ua-cam.com/video/RNlKSYwWcdE/v-deo.html This Mathew Valente's version take some take some liberties with the high-quality chorus but has the best audio mixing, in my opinion.
Amazing. For some odd reason, I'm picturing the lyrics in my head replaced with the faux-singing that FF6 famously had, namely during "Aria di Mezzo Carattere" and Dancing Mad part 2.
@@vermillvexx I played it, it's fun. But unfortunately, it's on the NES engine and the high pitched music and blocky sprites haven't really aged well, it is fun but I want to remake Final Fantasy 7 on SNES romhack from the Final Fantasy 6 SNES graphics but to do that I need to find a team of people and an office building to help me make the game right and I would have to pay Square Enix copyright fees since it's a copyrighted game.
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What's beautiful about this is that this can be pulled off on an SNES. Sony was the one who did the sound chip for the Super Nintendo. So a seamless transition is likely if this were ever done as a pixelated remake.
Lyrics: Estuans interius Ira vehementi Estuans interius Ira vehementi Sephiroth Sephiroth Estuans interius Ira vehementi Estuans interius Ira vehementi Sephiroth Sephiroth Sors immanis Et inanis Sors immanis Et inanis Estuans interius Ira vehementi Estuans interius Ira vehementi Sephiroth Sephiroth Veni, veni, venias, Ne me mori facias Veni, veni, venias, Ne me mori facias Veni, veni, venias, Ne me mori facias Veni, veni, venias, Ne me mori facias Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa Ne me mori facias generosa Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa Ne me mori facias generosa Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa Ne me mori facias generosa Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa Ne me mori facias generosa Sephiroth Sephiroth Sephiroth
Музыка финальной битвы сие есть нечто... Вдохновляющие Но из-за того, что во время прохождения я... Малость перекачал уровень персонажей, это... Была одна из самых быстрых битв с боссом😅😅😅😅
Seeing how great FFVII could have look as a 16-bits RPG game speaking of graphics and sound, maybe even better than the actual polygonal 3d game, makes me notice that FFVII was already destined for being one of the best videogames ever, no matter what.
I wish there was a 2d version of ff7 I'm not a big fan of its attempt at 3d, it was a bold and great choice on squares part, still a great game however
There is an unofficial Chinese or English version of Final Fantasy 7 on NES but it's very pixelated and has high pitched music. I hope there will be a Final Fantasy 7 SNES romhack built from Final Fantasy 6 SNES engine game soon.
What the difference between your other remix and this one? Aside from the obvious huge quality boost with this one. Cause this one sounds much more closer to the original? I hear other soundfonts apart from FF6
Nintendo and Sony *did* try to team up. Sony was going to make a CD system for Nintendo, but their deal fell through (largely due to Sony's greed) so the system that *would* have been a Nintendo console ended up becoming the first PlayStation
One thing that soundfont remixes of One Winged Angel never seem to get right is that they're always afraid to include the Latin choir. I know it doesn't seem technically feasible but if you ask me, the choir MAKES the song. Even if it's on NES it just doesn't feel right without the choir.
![Final Fantasy VII OST - Birth of a God [SNES Edition EX Extended]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxfT34v2BzU/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey everyone. I am the composer of this remix. This discussion is pretty interesting lol..
The SPC700 outputs at a max sample rate of 32KHz. The sample playback speed goes up to 128KHz, but that doesn't mean these voices are impossible. Can the SPC700 output these vocals with this clarity on an actual SNES? If the sample fits within 52K (with 10K reserved for echo).
This remix I made that you're hearing is basically a what-if scenario where if you reserved 2 SPC700's for the 16 channels of audio, and then applied one SPC700 per vocal sample lol.
In other words, yeah this song is impossible on a vanilla SNES and was made with Impulse Tracker and applied an SNES echo to it (Using Plogue's chipcrusher 2 VST), and it took liberties, but if the SNES had 16 channels, no memory limits, but kept the FF6 samples..and still output at 32KHz, this is how it would sound.
It's a honor to have you here!
Thanks for the detailed explanation!
Do you do Touhou remixes at all, Mr. Valente?
Nothing stopping someone from adding extra chips to a cart.
@@Nugem There is a sort of similiar path, which 8BitDanooct1 took, with the result that the voice samples took up 230kb of memory for a NSF file. The file can be played on a NES emulator.
ua-cam.com/video/OpiespNgyEo/v-deo.html
I think next time you should try to compose it with some limitations. It's not bad, but I was expecting something to sound a little closer to what I would expect if I were to use the original hardware.
I can't get over how awesome that Sephiroth sprite looks
All sprites are from FFRK.
@George Saffos Oh, sorry about that. Thanks for the correction though, i appreciate it.
reminds me a bit of god of magic kefka
safer sephiroth looks actually SICK
its kinda weird to think that sephiroths's sprite here has more detail than his ps1 model (besides the whole 3d thing)
When you realize that a cool game’s Final(Hahaha) Boss is just a ‘Safer’ version of themselves, but you still destroy them in three forms in a row.
@@thehedgecatunion2550 In fairness, like most of FFVII, the translation is a mess, and it's suppose to be Seraph Sephiroth, not "Safer". But yeah, he's kind of a pushover, considering his ultimate attack can't actually even kill you in the western version of the game since it's %dmg.
@@DenGreatshotthis its a translation error
@@DenGreatshota good way to fix that in Reunion would be to make it % of TOTAL health, not current
@@cometstar4077 in the JP version of the original game it was just normal magic damage, so it could kill you there. There's lots of ways to fix it, but even as a kid it seemed strange his "super ultimate 2 minute long move" was... basically harmless other than the confusion/slow, and that's easily remedied by giving someone a Ribbon.
This sounds damn _legit._ If you told me this came from an official Squaresoft SNES version of FF7, I would believe you.
Let's not forget ff7 nes shall we
septhroth is almost a biblical angel design.
I think that's what the design was based off
It’s based off of the Seraphim, highest order of Angel. They have many wings
Kefka : am I a joke to you?
@@zapato6071 kefka doesn't really look like one of the higher angels, though. maybe a seraphim if you stretch but he looks more like one of the lower angels than something like sephiroth who was clearly based off of seraphim and artistical depictions of God
Makes sense, given that Sephiroth is supposed to be inspired by the first fallen angel.
2:13 the higher notes in this part add so much to this mix
One Winged Angel.
Has Seven Wings.
Excellent Sprite Though.
He is missing one wing though
@@UltraZombie115 his wing arm counts as a wing
@@piyo744 his human arm doesn’t
@@UltraZombie115 he has 6 wings under his body and a wing as an arm
One winged(missing) angel
I just remembered that a Seraphim is a type of angel with almost no human-like body and wings, which is what Sephiroth looks like, and Sephiroth’s name almost sounds like Seraphim. I’m only noticing this now and it just makes sense to me. What a genius idea the designers must have though of when making this boss. It makes me like the game even more.
*thought
Edit: Thanks for the heart btw.
iirc, the word “sephiroth” is the plural of the word “sephira” which is some kind of biblical term representing something along the lines of a “tree of life” similar to yggdrasil i think
I like the idea that his design reminds me of old testament angels, which seemed to be very strange looking, with a bunch of wings and eyes around it.
@@yourehereforthatarentyou His name is also Latin for anger
@@dimentiothemagician No it's not.
imagine if the SNES had gotten soundchips like some NES titles did. This could've been it.
earthbound is one of the few snes games with some voice lines
@@shadowlugia0011 wait real shit? i haven't played it so i wouldn't know
But it wasnt
Tales of Phantasia was one of these rare snes game that use a song for the opening of the game, instead of just reading the song from the file like a normal midi or mp3 file do but instead, it’s directly live streaming from the cartridge in real time because they don’t have the capability to reproduce the voices so… that is how they managed to pull it out.
Some games had sound chip. Not only Tales of Phantasia but also first Star Ocean ( 1996 only Japan )
This really make me wonder what FFVII would be like on the SNES
Me too. But it was going to be an N64 title if PlayStation wasn't a thing. Makes me wonder how it would've looked then since the N64 was graphically more capable than the PS1, but still lacked in a lot of other spaces which made the PS1 beat the N64 by a margin.
@@stargazersdance Probably the game would have been way shorter and had not pre-rendered cutscenes
@@gavinphoenixballesteros3080 go away. Stop showing up.
@@gavinphoenixballesteros3080 You’ve already ruined Opening Stage Mega Man X for me
Why are y'all being so mean to this poor man?
Aww man, I love this
I'm slightly sad that this had a fadeout instead of a perfect loop so I can't just repeat it forever
alternate title: one-winged angel but the soundfont is ever so slightly different but you can’t really pinpoint what’s wrong
FFVII on the SNES with Super FX Cartridge, 3D is only used for spells.
This is amazing! Amazing job to Matthew for the Remix
Sephiroth is as powerful than ever, unleashing the supernova in a radius meters, centimeter square, and the supernova has a big and gigantic diameter measures. Also with a speed of million kilometers, however, humanity is doomed thanks to Sephiroth. And i like this song as well.
He uses the equations of Astrophysics, to unleash it.
The equation and calculation is also correct and right to unleash the supernova.
I think if they really tried, they probably could have released ff7 in 1995 or 1996 at the latest. The best snes graphics look more detailed than the early ps1 models, even if the ps1 has better sound and more animations. They probably could have used this kind of music, even with the chorus, since they were good at emulating real chorus singing and real music. Like with Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong, ect. Their stuff was emulated, but that music sounded like real music.
I want to see a real romhack game of Final Fantasy 7 SNES using the Final Fantasy 6 SNES rom engine I'll make one with a team of gaming developers or possibly donate money to the people making one.
Holy shit this is fucking amazing!
The one boss fight I always wear the Ribbon for.
Outstanding remix, but was the SNES even capable of outputting vocals this clear?
I dont think so. Maybe with something 'extra' in the cartridge like the FX-chip?
My thoughts too..
I would have left the vocals out or added something more plausible since it's kind of a demake.
It is awesome though:^{)>
@@Nugem Yeah the MSU2 chip can add CD-quality audio, but I'm pretty sure that's independent of the SPC700 itself, which can only output 32khz at most.
@Adam Matlack
There's are some versions like that already; in my last remix, for example, I compressed the vocals to sound more like the ones in the Tales of Phantasia Intro Song: ua-cam.com/video/RNlKSYwWcdE/v-deo.html
This Mathew Valente's version take some take some liberties with the high-quality chorus but has the best audio mixing, in my opinion.
I'm not an expert but NES supported sound channel for veery low quality voice samples (wich are almost unused) so I think why not?
Amazing. For some odd reason, I'm picturing the lyrics in my head replaced with the faux-singing that FF6 famously had, namely during "Aria di Mezzo Carattere" and Dancing Mad part 2.
FF6.5
Dead Mario
What
@@jamesbankhead9192 Smash
This kicks ass
Still a master at this Nugem, good job fam
If only final fantasy 7 was released as a SNES game rather than a ps1, graphics would've been better
Or at least, one that can age very well.
There is a bootleg NES edition of FF7 out there, I believe the ROM is online.
@@vermillvexx I played it, it's fun. But unfortunately, it's on the NES engine and the high pitched music and blocky sprites haven't really aged well, it is fun but I want to remake Final Fantasy 7 on SNES romhack from the Final Fantasy 6 SNES graphics but to do that I need to find a team of people and an office building to help me make the game right and I would have to pay Square Enix copyright fees since it's a copyrighted game.
Beautiful job Nugem!
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3:13 POV: you are Sephiroth who "Dis Pear" Mcdonalds if he doesn't get his order
Amazing job! Sounds almost exactly like the original!
Sephiroth: Your Geostigma is gone. That's too bad...
This kind of sounds like the original
Ok this is pretty fuckin accurate
What's beautiful about this is that this can be pulled off on an SNES. Sony was the one who did the sound chip for the Super Nintendo. So a seamless transition is likely if this were ever done as a pixelated remake.
¡Maravilloso!
the extra mile is where the sprites were fighting a FF6 battle all the while
I knew this was from tssf when i just saw the thumbnail
Man, this SNES FF6 remix always sound way better than original version in my honest opinion
I would pay good money for a 16 bit version of ff 7
1:08
塩酸☆シメジ☆鮃☆出目金
田代！！ 田代！！
Great Sephiroth sprite design.
Lyrics:
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Sors immanis
Et inanis
Sors immanis
Et inanis
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa
Ne me mori facias generosa
Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa
Ne me mori facias generosa
Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa
Ne me mori facias generosa
Veni, veni, venias, gloriosa
Ne me mori facias generosa
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Sephiroth
Yo, this is sick
Kefka: "I SEE A POSER."
Safer Sephiroth is powerful sprite,
Hope until he make ff7 remake 2
Музыка финальной битвы сие есть нечто... Вдохновляющие
Но из-за того, что во время прохождения я... Малость перекачал уровень персонажей, это... Была одна из самых быстрых битв с боссом😅😅😅😅
Seeing how great FFVII could have look as a 16-bits RPG game speaking of graphics and sound, maybe even better than the actual polygonal 3d game, makes me notice that FFVII was already destined for being one of the best videogames ever, no matter what.
Yes and I want to see and hopefully make a real romhack of Final Fantasy 7 SNES from the Final Fantasy 6 SNES game.
what a final boss
Nice
The background is mind bending, i need to play this version. Then imma need a remaster of the SNES version. 7 is gonna be infinite 😂
I was waiting for the supernova hahahaha
I await the inevitable DK version of this
DK version?
@@Nugem ua-cam.com/video/rkxqt9SVO4E/v-deo.html
@@Nugem Yeah, there's a few mixes of OWA with the DK Rap spliced in
Oh my God haha xD
Lindo 🥰
Sounds almost the same as the original.
If Mario & Co. fought Sephiroth in Super Mario RPG instead of Culex
Barret lowkey looks like he's about to suplex a train....
I wish there was a 2d version of ff7 I'm not a big fan of its attempt at 3d, it was a bold and great choice on squares part, still a great game however
There is an unofficial Chinese or English version of Final Fantasy 7 on NES but it's very pixelated and has high pitched music. I hope there will be a Final Fantasy 7 SNES romhack built from Final Fantasy 6 SNES engine game soon.
It sounds like the original version on the ps1
_FF6 Flashbacks_
3:31 supernova
What the difference between your other remix and this one? Aside from the obvious huge quality boost with this one. Cause this one sounds much more closer to the original? I hear other soundfonts apart from FF6
Pergunta pro Todescasto
It's pretty much what you said. This version take some liberties with the uncompressed vocals but has better audio mixing overall, in my opinion.
Imagine if Nintendo and Sony teamed up in the 90s and have this.
Nintendo and Sony *did* try to team up. Sony was going to make a CD system for Nintendo, but their deal fell through (largely due to Sony's greed) so the system that *would* have been a Nintendo console ended up becoming the first PlayStation
Even know FF2 was my first FF game FF 6 and 7 are the best
What if Geostigma is just a diluted and less deadly version of Starscourge.
God, I'd love to hear your rendition of Dancing Mad. Like some kind of FFVI+ soundtrack
Download where?
You can use UA-cam Download sites like: y2mate.com
But you're not the first asking for downloads. I think I'll do something about it this year.
Great another villain with a wing
I'd totally play a 2D demake of the game
So would I, and I want to remake Final Fantasy 7 romhack on the Super Nintendo or maybe GBA version using the Final Fantasy 6 SNES or GBA engine.
1st!
And already sounding fire. Update when >'m done listening...
Edit: Awesome! 10 outta 10, my dude.
Oh I know can you please do the yu yu hakusho theme song on snes
Someone should make a SNES Supernova animation
'TIEMFF Games' made one : ua-cam.com/video/eRUUhbR_-6w/v-deo.html
@@Nugem haha amazing, thanks!
Now Kefka and Dancing Mad on the PS1 ?
😋🤣
One thing that soundfont remixes of One Winged Angel never seem to get right is that they're always afraid to include the Latin choir. I know it doesn't seem technically feasible but if you ask me, the choir MAKES the song. Even if it's on NES it just doesn't feel right without the choir.
Somebody please make this battle a game on a real SNES
I will do that as soon as I can find people interested in helping me make a rom hack to Final Fantasy 7 SNES from Final Fantasy 6 SNES engine.
not too much of a contrast in all honesty which is interesting
what happened to his right arm?
Oh when sepiroth turned bizzaro form his one winged angel formed because of him falling into holy which was full of life stream created by aerith
@@caydenlittle4259 thanks I get it now
FF7 From SNES
This is the only comment the creator of this video doesn't like
Accidently misread Valente as Valentine
To be fair it IS February
@@gavinphoenixballesteros3080 lol, yeah and because of Vincent
@@alexnixon1606 Oh ok
Sephiroth has 6 legs ☝️ Splits, bladed karate stance, and regular floating legs 🙄
diagonal mario anyone?
Would the SNES even be able to handle lyrics?
Maybe? ua-cam.com/video/x9uAiDxwbGI/v-deo.html
God doesn't win.
3 people win.
何かケフカみたい
The digitized lyrics ruin it. You have to do it like Celes in the Opera, where it's just SNES soundboard simulating voice.
神々しさでは流石にケフカに劣るが、再現度は見事だ。
would be nice to be able to wat h something without jucetube harassing me for more money to warship