To all you Castiel believers in his ability to throw Dean back in the pit, Dean should have shown have shown him some respect as much as Cass should have been less of a D$#k. As for throwing him back in hell, he couldn't do that and you all know it because he was a piece on God's chess board.
I don’t understand what is hard to understand ablut Dean’s sceptism. Nobody had ever seen an angel. So much pain, suffering and death by these creatures have been happening all his life. You’d think, as a hunter, if there were something as good as angels, they would have showed up to help long time ago. If there are demons, that doesn’t automatically mean there is angels. Just like there is vampires, but no Godzilla, angels could have just been a nice fairytail people spread to take their minds off of all the evil in the world.
Ikr? It's actually the same for many people in the real life too, there it's so much pain in the world, you can't blame someone for not believing in God. These guys are seeing just the big picture but it's deeper than that.
Exactly! I have never had trouble understanding that Dean is skeptical of anything he can't see in front of him. He's said that like a half dozen times already in the show. In fact because he's seen so many demons with not a glimpse of an angel anywhere - that would be a kind of proof to him that they don't exist, because otherwise, why haven't they come down to fight?
It’s so intimidating how Castiel who we knew saved Dean last episode really shook him in this episode. Just how commanding this angel is and has the capability to send him back. While Dean can talk back to him and criticize but he’s powerless against Castiel.
The way Dean was _actually cowed_ when Castiel got in his face & reprimanded him for saying heaven wasn't doing enough/told him "you should show me some respect" The ICONIC jumped out of him. Castiel is BDE incarnate!
So true, yet as we all now know, he wasn't allowed to send Dean back to Hell because he was under "orders" due to Dean becoming Michael's vessel. That was just Cass being a dick! U know like how he was before he got to know Dean. Lol I have to admit that I really did Not like him back then and I didn't like him again when he started killing everyone, trying to build his army to take down Raphael.
@@stephaniewade2973 Even if he wasn't allowed to send him back, the point of Castiel saying that was to put him in his place and understand that Dean is speaking out of his depth. He's making a point that he can talk back and criticize Castiel all he wants, but Castiel is beyond him and could throw him back into hell if he wanted to, so Dean should be a little more grateful and stop bitching. He had a point. Dean was stepping out of line.
I hope all the bible talk doesn’t cause a rift between your love for the characters. I really appreciate Nathan trying to explain deans reasoning when usually he’s trying to calm Davion down for simping too much LMAO. Nathan spat so many facts cuz dean only knows pain and nothing good has happened to him so how can he believe that there is a god watching over him? Whereas Sam is still as hurt as dean but he got out of the life and experienced normality/happiness so it’s easier for him to believe in good. I love these reactions and the discussions y’all have, keep it up guys!
I completely agree and I understand from dean’s point of view from a young age that man has been through so much pain and then later on in life it got way worse and watching that for the first time I’m so happy that I understood quickly
True, also Dean prior to this season was given a chance to give up the life and he didn’t. He kept pulling Sam back in so while Sam has chosen happiness before Dean didn’t. In reality, depression/sadness can be addicting and sometimes it’s hard to let go of that pain. In my opinion, that’s Dean’s case (if we’re relating it to real life)
As much as I love U guys rapport, ur kinda hard on Nate when he gets a lot right one last observation, you would all understand more if you would listen more if you listened more instead of arguing over everything instead of watching the show. How can you properly react to something if you don't actually see the show? Obviously I still love watching you guys or I wouldn't be subscribed to you're channel, I just wish I could watch you watch and understand the show more rather than argue as well as guess (half the time wrong).
The angst in this episode. Also, it's really cool how Meg treats both of the brothers changes based on their insecurities-- Dean's of not being able to save enough people and Sam's being a freak.
I’ve always loved that final scene between Dean and Cas. You NEVER see Dean frightened or nervous, but Cas stepping up on him and threatening to send him back to hell scares the shit out of him. Misha and Jensen did a great job in that scene. Dean has been dealing with crap his whole life, and whether he believes subconsciously or not, he has the absolute right to doubt. Just because there’s a hell doesn’t mean there’s a Heaven. Not all things have an equal and opposite thing. Davion, you may have been joking about it being Gods will for you to not find the show until now but I actually do believe that you find and love the show when you are at the point in your life where you need it or can appreciate it. I know of lots of folks who watched for a while when show was airing, but it didn’t click for them, then they watch again when they are older or in a different place in their life and love the show.
I think Dean is "frigthened or nervous" as you wrote it, because he doesn't know how to deal with an Angel. It's a brand new world to him. And most of all, unknown.
I think Dean sees Hell and demons as another part of lore and separate from religion itself. He grew up learning, seeing and hunting all sorts of creatures. They didn’t even know demons were a thing until they were older, it was all new to them. I don’t think they even knew what killed their Mom at first.
Dean has never believed in a higher power/forces of good tho *AND* up until now he's always been proven right. 1x12 "I'm not really a believer" 2x13 "There's no such thing [as angels]" Roy _wasn't_ a faith healer, his wife was forcing a reaper to kill/heal for her. And it _wasn't_ angels, just the ghost of a pastor who _thought_ he was an angel. Dean has suffered so much, he HAD to believe there was no God, because if not then why has he been allowed to lose so much? He literally tells Sam his mom used to say "Angels are watching over you" and that she was wrong, because there nothing was nothing protecting her, she died a gruesome death /=
He didn’t though, there is a significant amount of it that is incorrect, coming from a Christian 😂 and yeah I know it’s fictional show so I guess i shouldn’t be too hard on it but it’s still really irritating.
@@deansbian5607 yeah yeah I know it’s fictional 😌 but God isn’t that’s the frustrating part of the show. Anything Christian or God related in the show can be described as heresy.
I'm really worried that the biblical aspects this show sometimes takes will cause some of you to dislike it. You just have to remember, it's a fictional show. They have their own twists and turns that the writers have worked on. That aside I adore your reactions as always
You’re thinking about what happens in later seasons right? I’m concerned about this too… and we don’t have to mention anything about what happens in later seasons, but you get it.. I don’t think they will be too happy..
You put yourself in Deans shoes. He saw his mother get burned alive on a ceiling. He’s seen countless people get slaughtered by evil. Of course he’s going to struggle believing in any force of good, he’s experienced nothing but bad his whole life. Whereas Sam has always had faith, that was established in season 2
This episode was all about setting up the season. Lots of info comes into play. I kind of get Dean's perspective on God. All he sees on a daily basis is evil shit in the world. Very rarely does he see good. So I get that he doesn't want to believe. Especially after he's been to Hell and back. Sam still even after all this time has hope, so he believes. The show mainly focus on Catholicism but they do play with other religions. I actually forgot about this episode. But it really makes you think. Great reaction guys!💜
I love the fact that you don't forget about other characters as jo or meg, also totally agree with Nathan that spn beats teen wolf, vampire diaries and the others, also the relationship of Dean and Sam beats EVERYTHING 😍
If you take its first five seasons I think it ranks with the all time greats: X-Files, Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, Stranger Things..... The other ten are very hit and miss for me. I certainly enjoy them all, but I can't call them brilliant story telling.
I think dean thinks so low of himself that he doesn't deserve anything good. Like an angel dragging him out of hell. And he believes things when he sees it , that's what john taught him so its difficult for him. And like even I think it's scary that god has a plan for you or that he thinks special of you.My guess is that dean is in denial but is now starting to realise that they are truly real.
I love Davion in the beginning talking about Jensen as a person as well. There are so many stories of how nice, kind and genuine he is (and Jared and Misha too) and all the charitable work they do. I would love to actually get to sit down and have a drink with him some day just to soak in the perfection that is Jensen Ackles
No intense, rowdy and hectic after discussion? In a JustUs reaction? A little off, but I'm here for it, always. I love Bobby's catchphrase. So simple, and yet even Cameron was confused by it, "idjit". That's all it is, Cam, ya idjit. 😅💘 Great episode. Brought back Meg, Henriksen, and Ronald, the man-droid guy. My man, or angel, Castiel is back. And of course, he's still mad intimidating. I agree that Dean shouldn't really be too disbelieving in angels, the Devil, and God, when he himself has literally fended off demons countless times and been to Hell, but I get it. He doesn't understand why God would ever care about him, and him specifically. But it's Jensen Ankles, so y'know. So if each one of these 66 Seals are broken, then Lucifer walks free. Not gonna lie, hella interesting. Great reaction guys, hyped for the next! 💯🔥
Nathan: Dean and Sam's relationship beats pretty much every kind of relationship. Truer words never been said. Those two have the most toxic relationship ever, but that's really fascinating to watch. It's so rare in tv to focus on any other relationship than love partners, that this was a breath of fresh air years ago when I started to watch it. That of course wouldn't work so well without Jensen and Jared being great actors as they are and gave amazing chemistry.
I personally always read Deans doubt as more, he's doubting they exist because his self worth is so low, that he can't fathom why he was brought back to life. Not to spoil but it certainly does get explored a lot more
Just remember that Kripke sought inspiration for Supernatural from Neil Gaiman, who has written Good Omens and American Gods. So when it comes to many religions with this show, all religions are definitely living together in the same world as the others. And truthfully, Dean definitely doesn't have a shit ton of faith. It's easy to believe in a world of evil when no evidence of angels and other divine beings who are supposedly good have existed or been told or passed down between hunters. They've only come across evil supernatural beings and so to have God and angels exist while they're out here fighting OTHER supernatural beings. Dean is wondering, "well, where the fuck have you been?". It's easy to have that disbelief. Haha I love that yall are getting into the meat of the show. It gets heavy as seasons go by.
For Nathan's question: "if they're running out of angels why doesn't God just create more?" I mean, if he could he probably would've by now, it's like they said "God works in mysterious ways." also, angels and humans are a very separate thing! when we die, we don't just automatically become angels, it's extremely rare for a human to become an angel in the Bible.
It’s difficult for Dean to believe in Angels with all of the horrors and tragedies he’s witnessed all his life. He’s SEEN demons. Seen what they can do and are capable of. Has actually been to hell. In fact, it makes perfect sense that he wouldn’t. There hasn’t been an angels around this whole time so he’s pretty unconvinced with them showing up now. Also, Nate… Sam’s obsession with Ruby has nothing to do with Dean anymore. If it ever did. He’s back. Lilith doesn’t hold his contract. It’s purely selfish for Sam to keep Ruby alive at this point. Also, this is one of the best shows. You guys gotta start Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the OG teen supernatural show. And then start Angel.
SPOILERS, GUYS, DON'T READ!! Sam's obsession with Ruby started because of Dean. First, he got obsessed with her because she told him there was a way to save Dean, but as she didn't say how, he kept protecting her and trusting her expecting she eventually will tell him the way he could break the contract. When Dean finally died, he wanted to venge his death and he would only do that if he could kill Lilith. After all Ruby's lies and evasives, she still was the one who gave him the perfect weapon to kill his brother's killer: himself (and what he could get out of her to be more powerful), so he forgave her and kept her around. When Dean came back, he still wanted to venge what happened to Dean and all the suffer he went through in hell. Yes, Dean was finally there with him as Dean himself told him at some point, but Sam was blind with rage and thrist of vengeance. He didn't forget nor forgive what and how Lilith took his brother away from him. So he decided to keep using Ruby because she was necessary if he wanted to win the battle with Lilith. Then of course, came the seals, and as Ruby told him he was the only one powerful enough to kill Lilith, he believed her and his motives switched a little. Now it was not only revenge what moved him but his pure and deepest desire to stop the breaking of the seals to prevent the apocalypse from happening. Above everything, we have to consider that he was already an addict by the time Dean came back. So whatever the motives and whatever the changes, he just couldn't stop using Ruby. So yeah, Dean was the reason he started to partner up with Ruby, and his addiction was the reason he started depending on her, which he couldn't see/accept, so he tried to convince himself he kept her around for the seals and his revenge, which was true, but just partially. The main reason was because his body needed what Ruby gave him.
you guys should watch Supernatural Conventions and Bloopers atleast for the seasons you've already watched. i'm addicted to their conventions, it's really fun. btw Supernatural (SPN) has one of the biggest fandoms.
I dont know why but this was a fun reaction from you guys! down from reaction and the discussion xD the last bit with cameron and davion had me making the same face too lmao
Shout out to Cameron for wanting to hear from Jo! While I too question Dean refusing to believe even after he met and angel, I would say his refusal is the opposite of naivety. He's seen to much evil crap over the years. He never met a fundamentally good supernatural force out there and not long ago, back in season 2, he was struggling to accept being a supernatural being doesn't automatically makes the person evil! So this is him trying to grasp new concepts that change his worldview once again. It's a lot to take in XD
Dean has been brought up only seeing and hunting 'evil' and in that entire time he has never come across any angels or anything good. So of course he is hesitant to believe it. Remember how hard he found it to see everything wasn't just black and white when they came across that Vampire who wasn't evil? Lenore? He has seen darkness and only darkness so it's taking him a while to adjust to the light coming through.
Remember Cameron, Dean has been doubtful of God since, what Season 1 or 2? The one where the ghost was a priest, compelling people to murder church members who had committed crimes.
"Dean and Sams relationship beats pretty much any other kind of relationship" so true Nathan. Also, I 100% agree that Supernatural is better than Teen Wolf XD I don't understand what is so hard to understand about Dean not believing in God¿ He simply refuses to believe that there's an almighty force capable of stopping all the suffering he's witnessed and refusing to do anything about it, that's why he doesn't believe, because in that case, if God existed hed be evil, and Dean cant believe that, so its easier to deny his existence
I always forget that "In the Beginning" is ep3 not 4. I'm so excited to see your reaction to it, it's Such a good episode. Then I can be chill until 4x07, lol
"These hunters suck" keep in mind, these hunters are alone, if Sam or Dean was alone, look how many times one or the other would be dead? Usually the Supernatural gets the jump on one of them. So when these solo hunters get ganked, you gotta figure if they had someone else to shoot the ghost with Rocksalt, then maybe they'd live too.
The thing about Dean is, he will believe everything bad about the world but the second soemthing good comes out, he won’t believe it. So he doesn’t believe in angles
Also FINALLY someone told them the writers DIDN'T KNOW there were gonna be 15 seasons bruh XD I've been dying here with them thinking all seasons were planned from the start auhsuahsauhsausash Personally I would go further and tell them how many were, to be honest. C'mon Nathan and Divek, tell them XD
The best way to consume supernatural is imho by not taking at face value. Everything we aren’t shown if not through glimpses behind the curtain explains so much about the characters. Why does Dean believe there’s no such thing as God while Sam is so naively hopeful? Cause Sam had someone to protect his innocence while still young, probably. And that someone sure as hell isn’t John
their past coming back to bite them this reminded me of a episode from the original Charmed & yes Meg is back this was a great episode. #LaserEyes #Idjit
After everything Dean has been through I can see why he wouldn't believe in higher beings. He's traumatized and has been through too much pain. He has to see to believe it. That's how he is. As a Christian I know it seems that its weird that he doesn't have faith but we have to respect everyone's beliefs whether we agree with it or not.
This is one season that after each episode, I wish someone had told me to watch it again.. right then.. so much info so fast that it's easy to miss important stuff. There are many of us in the fandom that have watched the series multiple times (I'm in season 8 of my 10th time through) and every single time, I spot something I missed... especially season 4.
@@audreyii6750 the obsession is strong.. I found the show in late 2018.. that first Xmas hiatus with no new material.. torture. I should call it partial binges since the series hadn't wrapped when I restarted all those times. For the full 15, this is only the second time start to finish... and I do skip the ghostfacers and have only watched "season 7 time for a wedding" three times.. that one just doesn't get better for me. I also tend to fast forward most of Metatron's scenes..makes seasons 9-11 go a bit faster.
@@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority Oh! I don't skip XD I start at the pilot & work my way forward until the latest season. I started watching on & off in s4. S7 is the first season where I watched every episode live.
@@rachela2659 I think it’s good because he lost his soul and that part is good then as soon as they get it back but after that it goes down hill because season 7 is stupid in my opinion
Each ghost that shows up are not attacking the boys because of their own will. A spell was cast upon them that is forcing them to go after them. while they might feel anger towards them they probably wouldn't come and attack them.
Fun fact: “Idjit” is derived from the Irish Slang word "Eejit", which means a person who is exceedingly Stupid or an Idiot. It was americanized and made "country" and slowly was changed into "Idjit" by southerners.
Ye I understand why dean was skeptical because demons and monsters are just another species technically but god.. he created everything he controls everything so i think it’s understandable why he doesn’t believe but it’s hilarious how u guys reacttt
“You should show me some respect, I dragged you out of hell I can throw you back in”
Castiel actor is so fucking good
His name is misha collins
And he is our lord
Dean should absolutely show respect to Castiel for "gripping him tight and raising him from perdition."
To all you Castiel believers in his ability to throw Dean back in the pit, Dean should have shown have shown him some respect as much as Cass should have been less of a D$#k. As for throwing him back in hell, he couldn't do that and you all know it because he was a piece on God's chess board.
@@soulofanartist2563blasphemy
I don’t understand what is hard to understand ablut Dean’s sceptism. Nobody had ever seen an angel. So much pain, suffering and death by these creatures have been happening all his life. You’d think, as a hunter, if there were something as good as angels, they would have showed up to help long time ago. If there are demons, that doesn’t automatically mean there is angels. Just like there is vampires, but no Godzilla, angels could have just been a nice fairytail people spread to take their minds off of all the evil in the world.
Ikr? It's actually the same for many people in the real life too, there it's so much pain in the world, you can't blame someone for not believing in God. These guys are seeing just the big picture but it's deeper than that.
Well said..
Exactly what I think too.
Exactly! I have never had trouble understanding that Dean is skeptical of anything he can't see in front of him. He's said that like a half dozen times already in the show. In fact because he's seen so many demons with not a glimpse of an angel anywhere - that would be a kind of proof to him that they don't exist, because otherwise, why haven't they come down to fight?
@Pro Jey96 Faith in his religion is what kept Sam grounded. Sam became much more brutal once he stopped thinking his faith as a necessity.
"You should show me some respect" is my favorite Cas line of the series.
It’s so intimidating how Castiel who we knew saved Dean last episode really shook him in this episode. Just how commanding this angel is and has the capability to send him back. While Dean can talk back to him and criticize but he’s powerless against Castiel.
The way Dean was _actually cowed_ when Castiel got in his face & reprimanded him for saying heaven wasn't doing enough/told him "you should show me some respect"
The ICONIC jumped out of him. Castiel is BDE incarnate!
So true, yet as we all now know, he wasn't allowed to send Dean back to Hell because he was under "orders" due to Dean becoming Michael's vessel. That was just Cass being a dick! U know like how he was before he got to know Dean. Lol I have to admit that I really did Not like him back then and I didn't like him again when he started killing everyone, trying to build his army to take down Raphael.
@@stephaniewade2973 Even if he wasn't allowed to send him back, the point of Castiel saying that was to put him in his place and understand that Dean is speaking out of his depth. He's making a point that he can talk back and criticize Castiel all he wants, but Castiel is beyond him and could throw him back into hell if he wanted to, so Dean should be a little more grateful and stop bitching.
He had a point. Dean was stepping out of line.
I hope all the bible talk doesn’t cause a rift between your love for the characters. I really appreciate Nathan trying to explain deans reasoning when usually he’s trying to calm Davion down for simping too much LMAO. Nathan spat so many facts cuz dean only knows pain and nothing good has happened to him so how can he believe that there is a god watching over him? Whereas Sam is still as hurt as dean but he got out of the life and experienced normality/happiness so it’s easier for him to believe in good. I love these reactions and the discussions y’all have, keep it up guys!
I completely agree and I understand from dean’s point of view from a young age that man has been through so much pain and then later on in life it got way worse and watching that for the first time I’m so happy that I understood quickly
True, also Dean prior to this season was given a chance to give up the life and he didn’t. He kept pulling Sam back in so while Sam has chosen happiness before Dean didn’t. In reality, depression/sadness can be addicting and sometimes it’s hard to let go of that pain. In my opinion, that’s Dean’s case (if we’re relating it to real life)
As much as I love U guys rapport, ur kinda hard on Nate when he gets a lot right one last observation, you would all understand more if you would listen more if you listened more instead of arguing over everything instead of watching the show. How can you properly react to something if you don't actually see the show? Obviously I still love watching you guys or I wouldn't be subscribed to you're channel, I just wish I could watch you watch and understand the show more rather than argue as well as guess (half the time wrong).
everyone: CAS-TE-L
davion & cameron: CAS-STEAL 😭🤚
more like cas-tea-el
They better just call him Cas by now
Cas will be so much easier. I mean, once all we hear Dean constantly yelling “Cas!!” It just catches on
Metatron: asstiel
@@lvghllgr8181 more like Cas- tee -aal
The angst in this episode. Also, it's really cool how Meg treats both of the brothers changes based on their insecurities-- Dean's of not being able to save enough people and Sam's being a freak.
I’ve always loved that final scene between Dean and Cas. You NEVER see Dean frightened or nervous, but Cas stepping up on him and threatening to send him back to hell scares the shit out of him. Misha and Jensen did a great job in that scene.
Dean has been dealing with crap his whole life, and whether he believes subconsciously or not, he has the absolute right to doubt. Just because there’s a hell doesn’t mean there’s a Heaven. Not all things have an equal and opposite thing.
Davion, you may have been joking about it being Gods will for you to not find the show until now but I actually do believe that you find and love the show when you are at the point in your life where you need it or can appreciate it. I know of lots of folks who watched for a while when show was airing, but it didn’t click for them, then they watch again when they are older or in a different place in their life and love the show.
I think Dean is "frigthened or nervous" as you wrote it, because he doesn't know how to deal with an Angel. It's a brand new world to him. And most of all, unknown.
I think Dean sees Hell and demons as another part of lore and separate from religion itself. He grew up learning, seeing and hunting all sorts of creatures. They didn’t even know demons were a thing until they were older, it was all new to them. I don’t think they even knew what killed their Mom at first.
That's a really good way of putting it. Demons weren't a "religious" entity to Dean, just another, slightly more dangerous, monster
They knew about demons before they were adults I just think demon possessions were more rare when they were growing up.
Dean has never believed in a higher power/forces of good tho *AND* up until now he's always been proven right.
1x12 "I'm not really a believer"
2x13 "There's no such thing [as angels]"
Roy _wasn't_ a faith healer, his wife was forcing a reaper to kill/heal for her.
And it _wasn't_ angels, just the ghost of a pastor who _thought_ he was an angel.
Dean has suffered so much, he HAD to believe there was no God, because if not then why has he been allowed to lose so much?
He literally tells Sam his mom used to say "Angels are watching over you" and that she was wrong, because there nothing was nothing protecting her, she died a gruesome death /=
You've met, Lisa, you've met Meg, you've Met Ruby, you've met Bobby, you've met Rufus and now Castiel now the shit is about to go down
Yes we know who’s coming next. I can’t wait.
@@harmonythompson1201 i have 3 im waiting for
@@gloriebluestein9721 I have a lot I’m waiting for.
@@harmonythompson1201 same quite a bit I want to see their reactions too
I just know they're gonna like a certain someone
Fun fact: Erik Kripke is actually a Jewish man, which I think is one of the reason they handle all the "christian" plots so well
yeah some of the other writers on this show are also jewish which i think gave a nice perspective and handled the biblical stuff really well.
He didn’t though, there is a significant amount of it that is incorrect, coming from a Christian 😂 and yeah I know it’s fictional show so I guess i shouldn’t be too hard on it but it’s still really irritating.
@@texposeidon1256 bro no way? the fantasy show uses fantasy elements?? for real?
@@deansbian5607 yeah yeah I know it’s fictional 😌 but God isn’t that’s the frustrating part of the show. Anything Christian or God related in the show can be described as heresy.
@@texposeidon1256 God is also fictional bro.
I'm really worried that the biblical aspects this show sometimes takes will cause some of you to dislike it. You just have to remember, it's a fictional show. They have their own twists and turns that the writers have worked on.
That aside I adore your reactions as always
You’re thinking about what happens in later seasons right? I’m concerned about this too… and we don’t have to mention anything about what happens in later seasons, but you get it.. I don’t think they will be too happy..
You put yourself in Deans shoes. He saw his mother get burned alive on a ceiling. He’s seen countless people get slaughtered by evil. Of course he’s going to struggle believing in any force of good, he’s experienced nothing but bad his whole life. Whereas Sam has always had faith, that was established in season 2
Davion you watched interviews of Jensen omg so true he is so genuine omg loml I don’t think I can love that man anymore and he surprises me every day
So in the Bible, Angels are Angels and humans are humans. Only a few humans have ever become Angels. When we die we do not become Angels.
Which humans were those? I don’t recall
@@normansmith9009 usually saints
This episode was all about setting up the season. Lots of info comes into play. I kind of get Dean's perspective on God. All he sees on a daily basis is evil shit in the world. Very rarely does he see good. So I get that he doesn't want to believe. Especially after he's been to Hell and back. Sam still even after all this time has hope, so he believes.
The show mainly focus on Catholicism but they do play with other religions.
I actually forgot about this episode. But it really makes you think. Great reaction guys!💜
I love the fact that you don't forget about other characters as jo or meg, also totally agree with Nathan that spn beats teen wolf, vampire diaries and the others, also the relationship of Dean and Sam beats EVERYTHING 😍
If you take its first five seasons I think it ranks with the all time greats: X-Files, Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, Stranger Things.....
The other ten are very hit and miss for me. I certainly enjoy them all, but I can't call them brilliant story telling.
Ron wasn't robbing the bank but trying to prove what happened to his friend.
I think dean thinks so low of himself that he doesn't deserve anything good. Like an angel dragging him out of hell. And he believes things when he sees it , that's what john taught him so its difficult for him. And like even I think it's scary that god has a plan for you or that he thinks special of you.My guess is that dean is in denial but is now starting to realise that they are truly real.
The show really starts now with this season and Castiel
I love Davion in the beginning talking about Jensen as a person as well. There are so many stories of how nice, kind and genuine he is (and Jared and Misha too) and all the charitable work they do. I would love to actually get to sit down and have a drink with him some day just to soak in the perfection that is Jensen Ackles
No intense, rowdy and hectic after discussion? In a JustUs reaction? A little off, but I'm here for it, always.
I love Bobby's catchphrase. So simple, and yet even Cameron was confused by it, "idjit". That's all it is, Cam, ya idjit. 😅💘
Great episode. Brought back Meg, Henriksen, and Ronald, the man-droid guy.
My man, or angel, Castiel is back. And of course, he's still mad intimidating.
I agree that Dean shouldn't really be too disbelieving in angels, the Devil, and God, when he himself has literally fended off demons countless times and been to Hell, but I get it. He doesn't understand why God would ever care about him, and him specifically. But it's Jensen Ankles, so y'know.
So if each one of these 66 Seals are broken, then Lucifer walks free. Not gonna lie, hella interesting.
Great reaction guys, hyped for the next! 💯🔥
"I'm not afraid of angels." "You ...will be."
Love your reactions, the people who have finished spn finding this talk abt god hilarious 😂
It’s so funny
@@deziraegarza5493 ikr 😅
Cameron and Davion’s reaction to the Lucifer reveal was perfection!
11:59 how could he exorcise a ghost, Davion??😶😶 His powers only work on demons.
Season 4 Cas makes me feral omg
I forgot how intimidating Cas was back then. And that legendary line.
Watching dean’s relationship with his beliefs n all over the seasons is probably one of my favorite things
Nathan: Dean and Sam's relationship beats pretty much every kind of relationship. Truer words never been said. Those two have the most toxic relationship ever, but that's really fascinating to watch. It's so rare in tv to focus on any other relationship than love partners, that this was a breath of fresh air years ago when I started to watch it. That of course wouldn't work so well without Jensen and Jared being great actors as they are and gave amazing chemistry.
This is like watching Supernatural again for the very first time! Love your excitement and discussions. Keep it up!
“If Dean was about to get a piano dropped on him …” you forgot to add *again* Davion. I know it hurts but don’t forget.
It wasn't a piano. It was a desk. A very large desk, but a desk nonetheless.
@@twelvehundredmiles5330 yup I think I confused Sister Cynthia from Zombieland.
@@mizixy9624 lol
Y’all keep pumping out the videos for us recently 🙌 respect you guys so much for being consistent
I personally always read Deans doubt as more, he's doubting they exist because his self worth is so low, that he can't fathom why he was brought back to life. Not to spoil but it certainly does get explored a lot more
Cas' entrance in the premier was freaking awesome.
Just remember that Kripke sought inspiration for Supernatural from Neil Gaiman, who has written Good Omens and American Gods. So when it comes to many religions with this show, all religions are definitely living together in the same world as the others.
And truthfully, Dean definitely doesn't have a shit ton of faith. It's easy to believe in a world of evil when no evidence of angels and other divine beings who are supposedly good have existed or been told or passed down between hunters.
They've only come across evil supernatural beings and so to have God and angels exist while they're out here fighting OTHER supernatural beings. Dean is wondering, "well, where the fuck have you been?". It's easy to have that disbelief.
Haha I love that yall are getting into the meat of the show. It gets heavy as seasons go by.
Y’all praise dean and Sam relationship you haven’t seen nothing til you watch psych their whole friendship on there is top tier!!!!
Psych is such a great show, so excited for the new movie!
@@thekeytomyheart_ nobody reacts to it which i am sad about bc they’re missing out but I cannot wait for anything psych related!!
Petition for Cam and Dave to be sam and dean for Halloween
I’m down
@@JustUs they already are
no-nonsense, billion year old celestial warrior: * exists *
Me: my son! My boy! Look at him go =D
I can’t wait for you guys to see the rest 😭❤️❤️
ikr😭
That was a really good, civil and balanced discussion between davion and nathan.
For Nathan's question: "if they're running out of angels why doesn't God just create more?" I mean, if he could he probably would've by now, it's like they said "God works in mysterious ways." also, angels and humans are a very separate thing! when we die, we don't just automatically become angels, it's extremely rare for a human to become an angel in the Bible.
ok my neck hurts just by seeing devek sit like that
DONT TOUCH THE CAKE
It’s difficult for Dean to believe in Angels with all of the horrors and tragedies he’s witnessed all his life. He’s SEEN demons. Seen what they can do and are capable of. Has actually been to hell. In fact, it makes perfect sense that he wouldn’t. There hasn’t been an angels around this whole time so he’s pretty unconvinced with them showing up now.
Also, Nate… Sam’s obsession with Ruby has nothing to do with Dean anymore. If it ever did. He’s back. Lilith doesn’t hold his contract. It’s purely selfish for Sam to keep Ruby alive at this point.
Also, this is one of the best shows. You guys gotta start Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the OG teen supernatural show. And then start Angel.
SPOILERS, GUYS, DON'T READ!!
Sam's obsession with Ruby started because of Dean. First, he got obsessed with her because she told him there was a way to save Dean, but as she didn't say how, he kept protecting her and trusting her expecting she eventually will tell him the way he could break the contract. When Dean finally died, he wanted to venge his death and he would only do that if he could kill Lilith. After all Ruby's lies and evasives, she still was the one who gave him the perfect weapon to kill his brother's killer: himself (and what he could get out of her to be more powerful), so he forgave her and kept her around. When Dean came back, he still wanted to venge what happened to Dean and all the suffer he went through in hell. Yes, Dean was finally there with him as Dean himself told him at some point, but Sam was blind with rage and thrist of vengeance. He didn't forget nor forgive what and how Lilith took his brother away from him. So he decided to keep using Ruby because she was necessary if he wanted to win the battle with Lilith. Then of course, came the seals, and as Ruby told him he was the only one powerful enough to kill Lilith, he believed her and his motives switched a little. Now it was not only revenge what moved him but his pure and deepest desire to stop the breaking of the seals to prevent the apocalypse from happening. Above everything, we have to consider that he was already an addict by the time Dean came back. So whatever the motives and whatever the changes, he just couldn't stop using Ruby.
So yeah, Dean was the reason he started to partner up with Ruby, and his addiction was the reason he started depending on her, which he couldn't see/accept, so he tried to convince himself he kept her around for the seals and his revenge, which was true, but just partially. The main reason was because his body needed what Ruby gave him.
@@AndreaCanales25 I know the reason. But I’m purposefully not saying more than what they or anyone else already knows.
you guys should watch Supernatural Conventions and Bloopers atleast for the seasons you've already watched. i'm addicted to their conventions, it's really fun.
btw Supernatural (SPN) has one of the biggest fandoms.
I second the motion
Divek is a whole mood in the back 🤣
I dont know why but this was a fun reaction from you guys! down from reaction and the discussion xD the last bit with cameron and davion had me making the same face too lmao
I love Cameron with the notebook. I did that the second time around
These reactions make me want to quit my job and just watch the full show for the 3rd time again
Shout out to Cameron for wanting to hear from Jo!
While I too question Dean refusing to believe even after he met and angel, I would say his refusal is the opposite of naivety. He's seen to much evil crap over the years. He never met a fundamentally good supernatural force out there and not long ago, back in season 2, he was struggling to accept being a supernatural being doesn't automatically makes the person evil! So this is him trying to grasp new concepts that change his worldview once again. It's a lot to take in XD
Cas: “Lucifer walks free.”
Davion: 😳
😂
Dean has been brought up only seeing and hunting 'evil' and in that entire time he has never come across any angels or anything good. So of course he is hesitant to believe it. Remember how hard he found it to see everything wasn't just black and white when they came across that Vampire who wasn't evil? Lenore?
He has seen darkness and only darkness so it's taking him a while to adjust to the light coming through.
“6 seasons left….9 seasons left…11 seasons left” 😭😭😂
They sound similar to the directors and writers when they kept trying to determine the amount of seasons Supernatural would have….
been refreshing yt all day for this vid
Me too 😂😂
I come to their page atleast 40 times a day
Remember Cameron, Dean has been doubtful of God since, what Season 1 or 2? The one where the ghost was a priest, compelling people to murder church members who had committed crimes.
"Dean and Sams relationship beats pretty much any other kind of relationship" so true Nathan. Also, I 100% agree that Supernatural is better than Teen Wolf XD
I don't understand what is so hard to understand about Dean not believing in God¿ He simply refuses to believe that there's an almighty force capable of stopping all the suffering he's witnessed and refusing to do anything about it, that's why he doesn't believe, because in that case, if God existed hed be evil, and Dean cant believe that, so its easier to deny his existence
not divek being mike wasowskied thru half of the video because of the screen below im dead
19:11 Davion mimicking Sam is so hilarious for some reason 😂
I’m excited for the next episode 🙃
I always forget that "In the Beginning" is ep3 not 4. I'm so excited to see your reaction to it, it's Such a good episode.
Then I can be chill until 4x07, lol
Omg I forgot Dean wears a Henley in this ep o just made an edit of him in Henleys bc Henley supremacy😩✊
Damn uploaded twice today respect the grind
Been waiting all day for this reaction let’s goooo 👏🏽👏🏽 you guys always put a smile on my face when I’m having the worst day. Thank you for that 😊
"These hunters suck" keep in mind, these hunters are alone, if Sam or Dean was alone, look how many times one or the other would be dead? Usually the Supernatural gets the jump on one of them. So when these solo hunters get ganked, you gotta figure if they had someone else to shoot the ghost with Rocksalt, then maybe they'd live too.
The thing about Dean is, he will believe everything bad about the world but the second soemthing good comes out, he won’t believe it. So he doesn’t believe in angles
I like how offended y'all are getting over the God stuff lol
I think the word Davion was looking for was closure.
you're gonna love the next episode! you'll learn some things you've been wanting to know thats all i'll say
"Idjit" is how you say "Idiot" with a specific accent - It's not slang or anything, it's literally just Bobby's accent
Theres a supernatural anime btw, that's how I found the show XD
Love youve discovered Supernatural! Amazing show!
Also FINALLY someone told them the writers DIDN'T KNOW there were gonna be 15 seasons bruh XD I've been dying here with them thinking all seasons were planned from the start auhsuahsauhsausash
Personally I would go further and tell them how many were, to be honest. C'mon Nathan and Divek, tell them XD
The best way to consume supernatural is imho by not taking at face value.
Everything we aren’t shown if not through glimpses behind the curtain explains so much about the characters. Why does Dean believe there’s no such thing as God while Sam is so naively hopeful? Cause Sam had someone to protect his innocence while still young, probably. And that someone sure as hell isn’t John
I think it’s cool that some shows/movies fill in the same heavenly blanks on the same way. I didn’t realize that until watching this reaction.
Lilith according to Myth, she was Adam's 1st wife but she wouldn't submit & ran away & became the Mother to all demons.
I'm sorry, the handshakes deserved a replay
their past coming back to bite them this reminded me of a episode from the original Charmed & yes Meg is back this was a great episode. #LaserEyes #Idjit
When cas mentions lucifer roaming free I always get so excited I shed tears
After everything Dean has been through I can see why he wouldn't believe in higher beings. He's traumatized and has been through too much pain. He has to see to believe it. That's how he is. As a Christian I know it seems that its weird that he doesn't have faith but we have to respect everyone's beliefs whether we agree with it or not.
This is one season that after each episode, I wish someone had told me to watch it again.. right then.. so much info so fast that it's easy to miss important stuff. There are many of us in the fandom that have watched the series multiple times (I'm in season 8 of my 10th time through) and every single time, I spot something I missed... especially season 4.
Omg, 10?? I've only rewatched it 4 times XD
@@audreyii6750 the obsession is strong.. I found the show in late 2018.. that first Xmas hiatus with no new material.. torture. I should call it partial binges since the series hadn't wrapped when I restarted all those times. For the full 15, this is only the second time start to finish... and I do skip the ghostfacers and have only watched "season 7 time for a wedding" three times.. that one just doesn't get better for me. I also tend to fast forward most of Metatron's scenes..makes seasons 9-11 go a bit faster.
@@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority Oh!
I don't skip XD
I start at the pilot & work my way forward until the latest season.
I started watching on & off in s4. S7 is the first season where I watched every episode live.
Can’t wait for you guys to watch seasons 4, 5, and 6 they are the best seasons!!
6 is mediocre
@@rachela2659 I think it’s good because he lost his soul and that part is good then as soon as they get it back but after that it goes down hill because season 7 is stupid in my opinion
Jeremy Carver Era was the most amazing after Eric Kripke which was 8-11
And my favorite is 11.. if we all liked the same stuff, life would be a huge yawn
@@a.e.5555 😂 love when Bobby says that
Each ghost that shows up are not attacking the boys because of their own will. A spell was cast upon them that is forcing them to go after them. while they might feel anger towards them they probably wouldn't come and attack them.
Fun fact: “Idjit” is derived from the Irish Slang word "Eejit", which means a person who is exceedingly Stupid or an Idiot. It was americanized and made "country" and slowly was changed into "Idjit" by southerners.
It’s a spirit not a demon. They can’t exorcise them.
Guys, just hold on tight. Supernaturals haven't started yet
Dude DON’T TUCH MY FUCKING CAKE got me dying 😂😂
"I dragged you out of hell and I can put you back in"
Now that's a threat
Them saying these hunters suck other than Sam and Dean is gonna be hella ironic come season 15
Sam's powers were never gone he lied.
I mean if you’ve read the story of Job it really makes not making more angels seem like one the less questionable things
I liked the video and it said 666 just as cas told dean lucifer walks free. .mind blown.
Well I have covid and conjunctivitis all at once and this is the one thing that has cheered me up today, you guys are genuinely a vibe ❤️ thank you x
Hope things turn out all right for you.
You my friend are a trooper and you got this -Davion
@@JustUs Thank you Davion, means a lot x
Same Davion 😌 I'd do anything for Dean and Jensen
Ye I understand why dean was skeptical because demons and monsters are just another species technically but god.. he created everything he controls everything so i think it’s understandable why he doesn’t believe but it’s hilarious how u guys reacttt
Cameron writting and missing "Nikky Aycox" on screen. iconic failure XDD
also Ron..
Woohoo!!!!!!! Yes OG Cass!!!!!!🥰🤘😀
First question: how much water does that bottle hold?
Second question: when did Divek become a VSCO girl?
I don't know if nayone mentioned it yet but the actress for the "new Ruby" is Jared Paledecki's wife, fun little fact