Did This Man Find The Extinct Tasmanian Tiger?

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2021
  • Tassie tigers, otherwise known as thylacines, were thought to have become extinct after the last known specimen “Benjamin” died in a Hobart zoo in 1936. But new evidence and a growing civilian movement are challenging that belief, with the Thylacine Awareness Group of Australia (TAGOA) boasting 10,000 members Australia-wide.
    In this episode of Australiana, we embed with its president, Neil Waters, a retired gardener who commits his life savings to an epic two year search for the ancient marsupial. As Neil edges closer to a tantalising ‘re-discovery’, the search brings him hope and meaning, but we also learn the price of this obsession.
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  • @VICE
    @VICE  Рік тому +9

    WATCH NEXT: What’s Scarier: Taxes or a Snake? - ua-cam.com/video/y7YjWPv_488/v-deo.html

    • @lemuelreyes1941
      @lemuelreyes1941 Рік тому +4

      Taxes rattlesnake

    • @Ben-hv4pr
      @Ben-hv4pr 7 місяців тому +1

      Defenitly the Tassie Tiger for me its the open mouth,the stiff tail,the black and white stripes running halfway down it back and the barkyelp it does

    • @aarshidanravichandran3720
      @aarshidanravichandran3720 5 місяців тому +1

      buying a snake with taxes in texas

    • @Ben-hv4pr
      @Ben-hv4pr 5 місяців тому

      Definitely the dodo,Dinosaurs,the Loch Ness Monster Crampus Clause and the dumb tassie tiger

    • @louisjohnson7441
      @louisjohnson7441 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Ben-hv4prSame

  • @almightysosa3007
    @almightysosa3007 2 роки тому +7123

    “Plenty of people are married, but not many people are huntin toigers”
    What an inspirational quote

    • @blasiandumplin
      @blasiandumplin 2 роки тому +40

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @user-ov2fc5sd1e
      @user-ov2fc5sd1e 2 роки тому +80

      So bizarre how I read this comment as I heard the man say it in the video at 14:41

    • @Mell0wY3ll0w
      @Mell0wY3ll0w 2 роки тому +7

      lul

    • @TheBizzle1978
      @TheBizzle1978 2 роки тому +54

      I lost my whole family over it. It was worth it

    • @yaykruser
      @yaykruser 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah, becausesome have to work for a living...

  • @qskii2365
    @qskii2365 2 роки тому +4305

    Hearing him explain what happened to his daughter is heartbreaking, he says it so calmly but I can tell how much that burns inside him. Bless this mans heart

    • @MICKEYISLOWD
      @MICKEYISLOWD 2 роки тому +93

      Such a horrific and violent death. I just hope they were killed instantly and felt no pain. There is something so strongly bonding between a dad and his little girl. I just can't imagine the pain of such a loss which can never diminish no matter how much time goes by. I really hope he finds his tiger and proves that this beautiful animal is still here with us.

    • @cameraguyjoe36
      @cameraguyjoe36 2 роки тому +60

      He is sadly broken and this Search for him is about more the tiger. It's a sad story with a man with is searching for something to fill that gap

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 2 роки тому +21

      @@cameraguyjoe36 yawn...

    • @tjvroom7076
      @tjvroom7076 2 роки тому +15

      Yea that hit pretty different for me cause I have a girlfriend who is 18 and I'm 19 and I've gone quickly over hills to get that feeling in your stomach when you drop ( kinda like a roller coaster) and his story terrified me, if I killed my girl idk what I'd do like holy crapppppp

    • @samuraiboi2735
      @samuraiboi2735 2 роки тому

      @@cameraguyjoe36 okay😐

  • @rich.eagle1evans192
    @rich.eagle1evans192 Рік тому +86

    I had a clear and certain incident spotting a thylacine in yellingbow victoria. It ran past at approximately 4 meters from me,stopping momentarily as I was braking as I saw it. It was very clear in my headlights as it looked at me briefly. It had fewer stripes than pictures I had seen. On researching this I learned mainland tigers indeed had fewer stripes. This was in September 93 from memory. It was about midnight.

    • @WastedTalent-
      @WastedTalent- Рік тому +15

      Too bad we didn't have dash cameras back then. But, people would still find a reason not to believe you, even with video footage. I live in Upstate NY and people were adamant that there were no Mountain Lions in our area. I just moved up here last year and within a month, one ran past me while I was driving one night. It was chasing a buck across the road about 30 feet from in front of my truck. My dash cam caught it. I showed the footage to people and they said it couldn't be a Mountain Lion, they're not in the area, that it was probably a Bobcat. Show me a Bobcat that gets almost as big as a buck and has a long tail trailing behind it. It's called a Bobcat for a reason. It wasn't my first encounter with a Mountain Lion in an area where they shouldn't be. Back in the early 90's my sister and I were driving down a dark road in a wooded area on Long Island. Something ran in front of the van and we hit it. It took off. It took us a minute to parse out what we just hit. It was a cat! Can't be! It was bigger than our dog! It was big enough that it hit the passenger side headlight on an old Chevy work van. We got home and told our parents. My mother immediately knew what it was, a Mountain Lion. You see, some rich douche in the Hamptons had one as a pet and it escaped. The local news had been tracking the sightings of it as it travelled across The Island. It had last been spotted several miles east of where we were a couple of days before. We called the police to report it, but they laughed at us. We then called Channel 12 to report it and we earned a spot on the map.

    • @buckslayer5612
      @buckslayer5612 2 місяці тому

      ​@@WastedTalent- makes sense thems fucks ate notoriously hard to find

    • @akatsukiawsome13
      @akatsukiawsome13 2 місяці тому

      Virginia says they aren't here but they are. 2 out of 2 people around Floyd county, who I have mentioned mountain lions to, have seen or heard them, and those two people were not idiots. The guy who say one says his dog had it pinned under his truck.
      I think they say they are not here so farmers like me can shoot them to protect their livestock and quietly make them go away/not get in trouble with conservationists. Males wander a lot farther than females, so even if they aren't breeding in Appalachia it doesn't mean they aren't here. @@WastedTalent-

    • @markb.265
      @markb.265 19 днів тому

      No, you didn't.

  • @XoXo475
    @XoXo475 Рік тому +89

    His dog barking and howling when he was singing was absolutely glorious 😂 I pray he finds a Thylacine . Omg I’ve been fascinated by this subject all my life. 🙏

    • @claytonbearden7793
      @claytonbearden7793 Рік тому +2

      Dude's got a nice voice too.

    • @44_83
      @44_83 Рік тому +2

      He sings good.

    • @44_83
      @44_83 Рік тому

      @@claytonbearden7793 Ok I was just joking. Man cannot sing

    • @thumper62973
      @thumper62973 7 місяців тому +2

      Just 2 good ol boys singing a duo..Yaaa that was beautiful..the ending note was cherry on top!

  • @me3940
    @me3940 2 роки тому +3858

    Ever since I was a kid, I watched documentary’s on the Tasmanian Tiger. It was so sad seeing the last footage ever recorded of the species, but I always had a feeling that maybe…just maybe they’re out there.
    I drew them all over my books, countless videos and potential sightings.
    There’s a species of bird i feel like still might be out there, and maybe if I’m lucky…I’ll make it there to find them.
    I’m currently studying to become a WildLife Specialist / Vet because of this exact animal.
    I hope you’re out there.

    • @BlackDiamondYoutub
      @BlackDiamondYoutub 2 роки тому +89

      Good luck mate wish you the best with that!

    • @ltings5806
      @ltings5806 2 роки тому +23

      What species of bird are you hoping to find?😊

    • @aldrinmercado3475
      @aldrinmercado3475 2 роки тому +17

      Is it a dodo?

    • @falkirkshelby2313
      @falkirkshelby2313 2 роки тому +26

      What about the 🦤 Dodo? You think they're extinct?? Or maybe.. just maybe... They still out there... 😱😱😱

    • @laxxrick
      @laxxrick 2 роки тому +37

      I’m a 40 year old American, and I check monthly to see if the thylacine is uncovered, and have for years lol

  • @tylerlynch2849
    @tylerlynch2849 2 роки тому +3836

    This man has been able to transmute his loss and pain into something beautiful and brave. Infinite respect brother. Thank you VICE for this fantastic documentary

    • @XBKLYN
      @XBKLYN 2 роки тому +10

      He somehow goes on through unspeakable tragedy.

    • @lewdards1127
      @lewdards1127 2 роки тому +23

      yep loved his part about not letting his mind stagnate through grief but rather thrive

    • @nickmcdonald6731
      @nickmcdonald6731 2 роки тому +23

      He could never bring back his daughter so he decided to bring back a extinct species ... everyone copes differently.

    • @nikokapanen82
      @nikokapanen82 2 роки тому +22

      How is falling into believing a lie to the point you dedicate your life to it, a good thing?

    • @ronniea.bastatas5535
      @ronniea.bastatas5535 2 роки тому +35

      @@nikokapanen82 just like any religion?

  • @adam2O
    @adam2O Рік тому +81

    I love how mid phone call this man just replicates a Tasmanian Tiger effortlessly, very nice.

  • @thepunisher9473
    @thepunisher9473 Рік тому +106

    There is nothing like having your Coleslaw dressing next to your possible “Tasmanian Tiger” scat.

    • @user-us7xb1yb6e
      @user-us7xb1yb6e Рік тому +12

      This why I can't eat at other people's houses

    • @dylanbrace5115
      @dylanbrace5115 Рік тому +4

      I thought the same thing😂

    • @joachimszm
      @joachimszm 6 днів тому

      Glad i wasnt the only one noticing

  • @coreymichael1880
    @coreymichael1880 2 роки тому +1634

    The Zanzibar leopard was rediscovered after 70 plus years being declared extinct. So this isn’t impossible however, it is highly unlikely as Thylacines aren’t known to be as stealthy as a leopard for example. I hope I’m wrong though as it would be an incredible find.

    • @superlumbagoman9370
      @superlumbagoman9370 2 роки тому +48

      @@MadeInTheAbyss so you don't think something as horrible as animal poaching is wrong? Or what are you even trying to say? I don't get it.
      And also, as Jay said, there are many (endemic) species that went extinct due to human interference.

    • @badclaw2105
      @badclaw2105 2 роки тому +16

      Both animals are extinct vice and inside edition just want attention get a life and stop believing the media 😂😂

    • @jesusdelgado9142
      @jesusdelgado9142 2 роки тому +39

      @@MadeInTheAbyss i know right!? I mean if the science community claims that there’s only been 5% of earths oceans searches how can you claim an animal that lives in a canopy of millions of trees with thousands of acres is extinct if anyone is barely going into the woods. I believe a lot of animals that we think are extinct might still be alive but I also believe that making everyone believe they are extinct is probably the safest thing for the future of all animals in this world to keep them safe from us!

    • @AllisterCaine
      @AllisterCaine 2 роки тому +40

      @@MadeInTheAbyss the entire planet? You don't need to look for crocodiles in the German alps or fish in the siberian tundra. You can narrow down certain species to locations just because they are very endemic.

    • @no_just_relax
      @no_just_relax 2 роки тому +5

      @@MadeInTheAbyss rmb certain animals only live certain parts of the world so once there gone from that aera there's no point to look the whole planet bc they won't be anywhere else

  • @The_Comedy_Hub
    @The_Comedy_Hub 2 роки тому +1274

    Such an emotional duel narrative to this story, him chasing around this ghost of an animal whilst also searching for an end to his grief, and to find some happiness is so moving. I hope he finds both.

    • @tdb4763
      @tdb4763 2 роки тому +15

      I hope he finds a way to reproduce this majestic creature. What a beautiful animal

    • @genleyhernandez7795
      @genleyhernandez7795 2 роки тому +5

      Dual

    • @christopherkendrex8075
      @christopherkendrex8075 2 роки тому +1

      I love this comment! ❤ well put!

    • @The_Comedy_Hub
      @The_Comedy_Hub 2 роки тому

      @@christopherkendrex8075 ❤❤

    • @jackandrews7878
      @jackandrews7878 2 роки тому +7

      Lmao he isn’t going to find any Tasmanian tigers, no offense but this guy is living in a delusional world. Tasmanian tigers have been extinct for nearly a hundred years. It’s a fantasy he’s made up to help cope with his trauma and hardships.

  • @Hollowsmith
    @Hollowsmith Рік тому +73

    A man who has endured a lot of gut-wrenching tragedy and loss, trying to contribute an epic scientific discovery to humanity in his remaining years. Good on him. A story of human resilience.

  • @tedcabana
    @tedcabana Рік тому +67

    I believe it is possible for a Thylacine to still exist in the wilds of Tasmania. It has been lees than 100 years since one has been held in captivity. Though the lands of Tasmania are quite vast for a creature of such size. There remains much land for those Tasie Tigers to hide.

    • @miltiadiskyriakopoulos317
      @miltiadiskyriakopoulos317 5 місяців тому +3

      Ι am a sea explorer for hears and i saw many species come back to their physical numbers again from near extinction.i believe tazmanians are gone forever cause if they dont ,they will be come again in front of our house fences all these hears.

    • @_skaadii
      @_skaadii 4 місяці тому +1

      Nick Mooney from fauna x is talking to them hes probably right

  • @eagledove9
    @eagledove9 2 роки тому +411

    Interesting, around 10:00 minutes in, he is talking about losing his daughter in a car accident. It's almost the same theme, hunting for an extinct animal which is almost impossible to find, as a way to cope with losing a specific individual who will never exist again. An individual can't exist again, but a species can. But when a whole species goes extinct, there will never even be any individuals who are even similar to the ones who were lost. The similarity is more and more distant when you look at another species. It's the idea of the uniqueness of something being lost, whatever that unique thing is.

    • @jesuschrist2612
      @jesuschrist2612 2 роки тому +29

      Ong u could be my 12th grade english teacher

    • @Googleuser33
      @Googleuser33 2 роки тому +9

      criminally underrated comment

    • @thylacineawarenessgroupofa5886
      @thylacineawarenessgroupofa5886 2 роки тому +25

      It was sightings that lead me to chase Thylacine's, not grief. The grief happened 5 years before hand. The actual search for them begun in South Australia upon discovering the hundreds and hundreds of sightings that are well documented there. 5 years after that search begun, I relocated back to Tassie and took up the search there...Neil.

    • @eagledove9
      @eagledove9 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@thylacineawarenessgroupofa5886 I am glad that you hear about sightings and take them seriously. I am in Pennsylvania, USA, and there are lots of people who claim that they are seeing mountain lions here, even though the government says that they are extirpated from PA. It's still very hard to actually catch them on film, or get other really strong evidence of them. So your situation is even more extreme than that, something that's thought to be completely extinct, not just extirpated. I really hope that you can find it.

    • @restlessbeing1398
      @restlessbeing1398 2 роки тому

      You are so frieking intelligent.

  • @germanncreekfarm62
    @germanncreekfarm62 2 роки тому +838

    In Alabama, there were hundreds of people saying they'd seen panthers, hunters that'd seen tracks and taken pictures, game camera footage, etc. They'd been thought to be extinct for years and Alabama Dept of Wildlife and Fisheries swore up and down that they were extinct and there was no way. Last year, game wardens finally confirmed they had photographic evidence of panther presence in Bankhead National Forest. Those animals are incredibly smart, and they know how to avoid humans. I wouldn't be surprised if the few in the wild are doing this too.

    • @Nirrrina
      @Nirrrina 2 роки тому +10

      @Rampage Jackson Sure it wasn't just a huge main coon!😉
      Seriously though that would be amazing to see & it doesn't surprise me a bit that a cat of any species could successfully hide from humans.
      Sometimes I'll look down & somehow my cat has just appeared nearby.

    • @awujaheemr2869
      @awujaheemr2869 2 роки тому +24

      @Rampage Jackson no such thing as a black panther, they are jaguars or leopards with excess pigment, South, And Central America is the closest they are to USA

    • @andycockrum1212
      @andycockrum1212 2 роки тому +7

      By panther do you mean a black cougar or a black Jaguar?

    • @spasplash156
      @spasplash156 2 роки тому +4

      Black cougars exist

    • @part-timebrock1126
      @part-timebrock1126 2 роки тому +10

      I thought pumas are common in America....

  • @davidwhelan1545
    @davidwhelan1545 Рік тому +160

    I sincerely hope this creature still exists.

    • @GreenyAU
      @GreenyAU Рік тому

      Good news, scientists here in Australia and New Zealand will be trying to bring it back, been confirmed they will recreate/clone or whatever they are doing to bring em back. They got the all clear and green light to do it

    • @spaceslav8954
      @spaceslav8954 Рік тому +10

      You mean the guy? Neil Waters?

    • @davidjordanoski801
      @davidjordanoski801 Рік тому +11

      @@spaceslav8954 tf? No he's talking about the tasmanian tiger

    • @spaceslav8954
      @spaceslav8954 Рік тому +18

      @@davidjordanoski801 If you want to call him Tiger that's cool and none of my business but his name is Neil.

    • @davidjordanoski801
      @davidjordanoski801 Рік тому +3

      @@spaceslav8954 DUDE. The title of the video! The tasmanian tiger that is said to be extinct but very denied on its classification.the Animal is called tasmanian tiger. No one said anything about a Niel waters in this comment!

  • @neil9274
    @neil9274 Рік тому +6

    Neil just watched you doco on the tassie tiger, and it bought back a memory of when l was in Tassie l was about 5 or six out with my Uncles who were keen outdoors men. They took me and my father to a place they called The Quombie , l can’t recall where this place is but l think we saw a young tassie tiger drinking nothing was said about this when we got home. And to this day l’ve always had a feeling that they might be still out there. Keep up the good work you are doing, and by the way lam 70 years young.

  • @moonmoon3429
    @moonmoon3429 2 роки тому +1050

    It’s comforting knowing someone is putting forth such a supreme effort to look for this thing

    • @doingbettereveryday
      @doingbettereveryday 2 роки тому

      Who the hell cares about this stupid animal? It's just another animal that pisses Nd shits and eats things and has sex.... Just looks different. Why do we need to find it so bad? Please I would love to know why we need to find it lol

    • @kingghx5t74
      @kingghx5t74 Рік тому +10

      Bekuz Tasmanian tigers are more important than humans right

    • @henkstols9326
      @henkstols9326 Рік тому +15

      I think if you looking at both these gents it more of a obsession than anything else, they going to see proof of these animals everywhere and are pass the rational or logic stage of looking at things.

    • @tankenjoyer9175
      @tankenjoyer9175 Рік тому +3

      @@kingghx5t74 im sure he doesnt mean that

    • @weirdoslovemrshelton
      @weirdoslovemrshelton Рік тому +8

      @@kingghx5t74 well humans killed em off....

  • @donaldturner5124
    @donaldturner5124 2 роки тому +1336

    Keep up the good work mate. The Ivory Billed Woodpecker was recently rediscovered in the swamps of Arkansas after not being seen in the U. S. for 75 years! Good luck!

    • @mikhail2400
      @mikhail2400 2 роки тому +27

      I live in south east GA and the Ivory looks just like the pillated woodpecker which has made a big comeback here. You didnt see them for years then over the last 10 or so they became more populous. Theres a pair who come to my yard every year and I thought had young one year. Sadly the tree they loved finally finished rotting and fell so I doubt I will see that pair again.

    • @mikemortensen4973
      @mikemortensen4973 2 роки тому +6

      @@mikhail2400 I disagree, the only thing that is similar about them is that they are both large woodpeckers. Biggest difference is the large patch of white on the lower wings backside of the wings when the Ivory is perched, a large triangular patch. Also the Ivory has two long stripes that go down it's back almost all the way down to that large white patch. The Pileated has no stripes down it's back The only white you see on a perched Pileated is on it's face and head and a stripe that goes down the sides of its throat, but not down its back, also a really tiny patch on the front edge of its wings. Both birds have lots of white on the underside of the wings. The smaller and common red-headed woodpecker has a similar white triangle on the bottom backside of it's wings when it perches too. If you are in the south and see a huge woodpecker with a large white patch on it's lower back when it sits, for sure take a picture of it!! And zoom in.

    • @mikhail2400
      @mikhail2400 2 роки тому +5

      @@mikemortensen4973 LOL, you really know your woodpeckers. Yeah in the pictures I noticed the large white patch when the Ivory is perched but not all the other details. I guess I should have said 'looks alot like' rather than 'just like' when I commented. I just like wildlife and enjoy seeing the larger birds alot. I spend alot of time in the Altamaha River fishing and get to see animal behavior most never will.
      We see alot of birds of prey and theres at least two breeding pairs of Bald Eagle in the stretch of river I frequent, its roughly a 20-25 mile stretch of the river. As the crow flies were only 40 miles from the coast so we get alot of the birds from that region. We are still looking the tree named after Ben Franklin, Franklinia Alatamaha, which is supposed to be extinct in the wild. Imagine finding one in the wild. That would be huge since every one that exists today comes from one tree in Philadelphia. Got as much chance of that as I do finding a DoDo bird

    • @mikemortensen4973
      @mikemortensen4973 2 роки тому +8

      @@mikhail2400 No, I really don't know my woodpeckers, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Seriously, as soon as I saw your comment, I just googled and found lots of Ivory billed and Pileated comparison charts, there are tons of them.

    • @1tonspirit
      @1tonspirit Рік тому +1

      Ive seen 3 ivory billed this year and one of them had to be relocated due to it damaging a super fancy cabin we were working on. Them things are still around just going deeper into the woods due to deforestation.

  • @lordofsnowrabbits
    @lordofsnowrabbits Рік тому +85

    My teacher back in primary said when he went on holiday, his guide said he saw them in the forests occasionally. My teacher went looking, but didn’t find them.
    Who knows they might still be out there

    • @gustaf5753
      @gustaf5753 Рік тому

      When was this?

    • @lordofsnowrabbits
      @lordofsnowrabbits Рік тому +1

      @@gustaf5753 about 13 years ago? I feel old haha

    • @gustaf5753
      @gustaf5753 Рік тому

      @@lordofsnowrabbits thats pretty cool. So would you say that the thylocene arent extinct then?

    • @lordofsnowrabbits
      @lordofsnowrabbits Рік тому

      @@gustaf5753 I wasn’t there so wouldn’t know. Tbh I’m on the fence with this one. I’d like to think they’re out there, but the probability… so low.

  • @aussieknuckles
    @aussieknuckles Рік тому +18

    What a legend you are mate, keep on searching despite the critics.
    Just want to say condolences to your loss, losing a loved one is never easy, it is good too see you find a passion instead of drowning in a world of sorrow. Best of luck.

  • @phoebegeebie1
    @phoebegeebie1 2 роки тому +569

    I went to high school with his daughter Julia and her boyfriend Joe. I didn't know her that well, we were in a few classes together (same with Joe), but I knew she was a lovely, gentle person and very close with her siblings - it was a tremendous loss. Seeing her father talking about grief was a bit soul crushing :(

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 2 роки тому +57

      Wow Phoebe. Talk about a blast from the past. I hope their memory serves you well in your future. It was a tragic accident so unnecessary. Joyrides can go horribly wrong...

    • @reallymentalpig1173
      @reallymentalpig1173 Рік тому

      Nice story but, how is this related to the video?

    • @layedbackthomas
      @layedbackthomas Рік тому +44

      @@reallymentalpig1173 They mention how his daughter passed in the video.....I imagine that is how its related.

    • @reallymentalpig1173
      @reallymentalpig1173 Рік тому +5

      @@layedbackthomas thanks

    • @orbis17
      @orbis17 Рік тому +6

      ​@@neilwaters7543 hope you are doing well Neil, your story while very sad, is also very touching. Keep it up mate

  • @syd5380
    @syd5380 2 роки тому +528

    I really, truly hope that in my lifetime there is at least _one_ confirmed thylacine sighting. They were (are, hopefully) beautiful, strange creatures and the idea that they’re gone forever, to be frank, fuckin sucks to think about. Massive respect to Nick, his devotion is palpable and his dedication is so admirable. Good job, Vice, this is a really lovely portrait of one man’s passion and commitment.

    • @yoparsons80
      @yoparsons80 2 роки тому +14

      Think about all the animals that have roamed earth for a long period of time only to not exist anymore. Same result will happen to humans eventually..

    • @Ralph-ny1ey
      @Ralph-ny1ey 2 роки тому +27

      @@yoparsons80 This extinction was caused by man. The last one known died because a farmer just stopped feeding it. We will be the ones to do ourselves in.

    • @spoonskates
      @spoonskates 2 роки тому +2

      @@Ralph-ny1ey yea but if it was the last one then there was no way it couldve reproduced anyways so the fault definately goes further than just this one farmer

    • @Ralph-ny1ey
      @Ralph-ny1ey 2 роки тому +9

      @@spoonskates I'm saying the last one on film (in captivity). The farmer had it because ranchers and farmers were known to hunt and kill them to protect livestock. The kill was not used for anything, just expendable. They eradicated them. It wasn't one man's fault, but a lot of men. Then they had an imported hare species so they could hunt for sport. The population exploded because their were not enough predators like Tasmanian wolfs. The rabbits did way worse to the farmers and ecosystem by devouring it. They still have problems with hares. We are at the top of the food chain. We didn't need them. Who is going to replace us at the top? Man would destroy it.

    • @yoparsons80
      @yoparsons80 2 роки тому +6

      @@Ralph-ny1ey There have probably been a few extinctions caused by Man. Probably quite a bit actually. In 100,000 years, the amount of destruction humans have caused to the natural environment is apparent. But people will naturally only interpret the last few centuries...

  • @Yukidongo
    @Yukidongo Рік тому +19

    Love to see the occasional footage of the wandering Thylacine. They're not extinct, but critically near it. I hope some can be found and a breeding program started to save them.

  • @aling.4977
    @aling.4977 2 місяці тому +2

    Hi. In year 2004, driving from Hobart to Queenstown through the forest we saw a Tasmanian Tiger. Both my wife and I were stunned and shocked to see it on the left side of the road about 20 metres in front of us since we knew it was extinct. The stripes along with its long tail and unique long face were very very visible.
    You may call us crazy but we know what we saw that day.

  • @peacegeese540
    @peacegeese540 Рік тому +252

    to some people he might seem crazy but, who knows what can happen in the future. This man's dedication might be the sole reason these tigers aren't labeled as extinct anymore, as they sadly have for 80 years. I look forward to the day he makes a breakthrough and his work pays off

    • @VeloVios
      @VeloVios Рік тому +11

      He will never make a breakthrough and his work will never pay off.
      Once someone holds a photo hostage just to get interviews and "fame" and it turns out all to be a lie usually means they will always be discredited in the future. Even if this guy brings a photo of a real Thylacine he will have 90% of people saying he faked it again. This guy took the boy who cried wolf story and made it his with one lie

    • @peacegeese540
      @peacegeese540 Рік тому +3

      @@VeloVios I do see what you're saying. And I know his isolation is self-destructive. But if, by chance, there were some left in forests and he found them that would be cool. But yeah it probably won't happen. I dont think he is intentionally lying to people though. Why would someone dedicate their life to something pointless unless they didnt think it was? if it is a ploy, be it for money or fame or whatever, so what? Get that $$. Maybe I want to stay in the Velociraptor patio airbnb even tho they are extinct

    • @tejo29se
      @tejo29se Рік тому +2

      If he truly studied the thylacine he would know its footprints has five toes. The footprint he showed only had four. The thylacine was so unique like nothing like it. It doesn't even have a close relative Im told. So sad if it is extinct.

    • @grayfoxv
      @grayfoxv Рік тому +5

      @@VeloVios You can be sure we "never" find anything if no ones spending the time to look for it.

    • @Kim-se9yb
      @Kim-se9yb Рік тому

      It’s related to quolls and Tasmanian devils

  • @aidanaston4106
    @aidanaston4106 2 роки тому +1277

    While I applaud Neil’s dedication and feel for his loss, I can’t help but be a little bit frustrated that the big reveal of the photo was such a disappointment. You can hardly see what’s in that picture, and for Neil to say that they’ve “done it” in such a matter-of-fact way, and has photos of a baby, a mother, and a father, is very misleading. Best of luck to Neil. It could be hiding out there somewhere. If it is ever found, I hope he is the one to find it.

    • @mattmerkley4602
      @mattmerkley4602 2 роки тому +92

      Its a housecat, what a build up for nothing....

    • @reneelabute5649
      @reneelabute5649 2 роки тому +108

      I agree. I thought he had three pictures. The one they revealed was not very convincing.

    • @skelmz1
      @skelmz1 2 роки тому +61

      They have some good sized Poos in baggies at least.

    • @higaddrip2583
      @higaddrip2583 2 роки тому +45

      How is it that he can be so close as to get that photo, but only be able to take one, really ambiguous one? No video, no nothing. Just that one photo that could be anything lol

    • @knightbane3752
      @knightbane3752 2 роки тому +51

      All 3 photos are out, none are a tiger.
      Plus he's been bullying UA-camrs who don't agree with him

  • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
    @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Рік тому +310

    Thylacine is such a creepy animal, I’d love to see them be found and protected

    • @XoXo475
      @XoXo475 Рік тому

      You’re creepy!

    • @Ben-hv4pr
      @Ben-hv4pr Рік тому +7

      Me too I would really appreciate it if the Australian Government would protect the last Thylacine's from further Extinction and yes they are pretty scary not wonder the Australian government was scared of the Thylacine's and the large Families of Thylacine's

    • @justinamenta7241
      @justinamenta7241 Рік тому +10

      How's it creepy lol I think it looks cool

    • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
      @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Рік тому +13

      @@justinamenta7241 it’s basically an opossum the size of a coyote with tiger stripes that can unhinge its jaw 180 degrees, that’s why it’s creepy lol doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s not cool.
      Also if you’ve ever played the game Fallout: New Vegas it looks a lot like what is called a night stalker which is a creature that is a coyote with a rattle snake head and rattlers on it’s tail and fighting them in game was rather scary as a kid so it’s kind of a irrational fear lol

    • @Tom_Bee_
      @Tom_Bee_ Рік тому +2

      ​@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 "... Doesn't mean I don't think it's not cool" 🤕

  • @MiiDusa
    @MiiDusa Рік тому +5

    Black panthers are considered to "Not be real" or not true here in Louisiana yet I came face to face with one that hissed at me back in 2005 when I was 15! I felt like I'd swallowed my own heart from the fear I felt!
    No one can tell me what I witnessed otherwise! ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

  • @Alexandra_Wolf
    @Alexandra_Wolf 2 роки тому +868

    What this guy has gone through is devastating. I think he is placing his hope in finding this animal as a way of coping and surviving. When you have lost your daughter in a Tragic way you need something to hold onto to keep going. He is able to put one foot in front of the other to find the animal, but it’s more than just about this animal. He’s holding out hope, he’s searching for things that he lost when his daughter died. His way of coping is a healthy, beautiful, symbolic way. He seems like a great guy and I hope he finds what he is looking for.

    • @mr.mrs.d.7015
      @mr.mrs.d.7015 2 роки тому +36

      Agreed and when he does it I hope he never tells a soul so the beautiful animal can live in peace without the danger posed by humans

    • @MyFunkymonkey7
      @MyFunkymonkey7 2 роки тому +23

      Wow, you’ve done an entire psychoanalysis of this man’s life from a 27 minute video. How you’ve done it should be a bigger shock to the world than the finding of a presumably extinct animal.

    • @gone_viral
      @gone_viral 2 роки тому +5

      You hope he finds what he's looking for? Yeah.....he's looking for the tylacine. 🥴

    • @franksantiago5443
      @franksantiago5443 2 роки тому +1

      @@gone_viral 🙂

    • @ds33z10
      @ds33z10 2 роки тому +2

      You say it's because of his daughter but I think he was doing this long before the birth of his daughter

  • @drowsydrongo1906
    @drowsydrongo1906 2 роки тому +151

    As a Tasmanian I think deep down everyone hopes they're still out there but alas even if they aren't this video should be a message to finding yourself in a passion and forming a deeper appreciation for nature. I sometimes forget how lucky I am to have been born/live here in this beautiful state. But it's looking at the comments from videos like these, that really puts things into perspective. Cheers mate, may you find solace and hopefully even a thylacine 👍🏻

    • @RealElongatedMuskrat
      @RealElongatedMuskrat 2 роки тому +3

      I've always wanted to visit tasmania, it looks like a gorgeous place. Love to your homeland from all the way up in nasty cold old northern Europe 😂

    • @jamiekelly6851
      @jamiekelly6851 Рік тому

      Will be again it seems, will be interesting to see while out trekking.

  • @clouds3026
    @clouds3026 Рік тому +13

    The Tasmanian tiger really looks prehistoric, it looks like a dog mixed with a zebra

  • @Sobchak2
    @Sobchak2 Рік тому +3

    His dog singing along in his car really made my day

  • @stasiababy1023
    @stasiababy1023 2 роки тому +1638

    For what it's worth, people like Neil make the world go round. Thank you for being so dedicated and passionate. We'd all be living with our heads in the sand if it weren't for people like Neil. 👏

    • @floki1664
      @floki1664 2 роки тому +9

      actually big corporations do. time to face reality.

    • @Beobeo12323
      @Beobeo12323 2 роки тому +43

      mate just let somebody say something positive

    • @Ron_swanson_true_libertarian
      @Ron_swanson_true_libertarian 2 роки тому +15

      @@floki1664 you f***er lol let him have his moment will ya he means metaphorically in a personal sense, leave the trolling tell after 9pm 😉

    • @bidenisnotmypresident7352
      @bidenisnotmypresident7352 2 роки тому +6

      its a hoax

    • @thylacineawarenessgroupofa5886
      @thylacineawarenessgroupofa5886 2 роки тому +11

      Cheers. I am pretty stubborn at the best of times and there are more holes in the extinction model that the SS TITANIC.....Neil.

  • @ashleyedwards9884
    @ashleyedwards9884 2 роки тому +828

    Have to say Vice, this is one of the best things you've done that I've watched. A truly touching documentary on a man who's lost so much. The way the doc is shot and the music is just epic. Great, great, great work!

    • @iliketowatch.
      @iliketowatch. 2 роки тому +1

      "The music" like the man/dog duet!

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears 2 роки тому +4

      Yes, because most of their videos are political nonsense. I love that I can watch this channel for something more wholesome.

    • @ryanhorne8748
      @ryanhorne8748 2 роки тому

      Beats Learning how cocaine was made for the 12th time

  • @juroen6134
    @juroen6134 Рік тому +9

    I hope they are still alive and surviving somewhere. Also that mans story about his daughter, kinda broke my hearth as a father. Hope he finds his peace.

  • @thestrangeceleb
    @thestrangeceleb 2 роки тому +142

    11min in, and I gotta say VICE needs to bring back the good stuff like this. This is great work y'all. Bring this kind of content back, please.

    • @kc4276
      @kc4276 2 роки тому +5

      This is literally 6 days old. It's already back lmao

    • @MaggotDiggo1
      @MaggotDiggo1 2 роки тому +3

      Vice sometimes do good stuff and they sometimes do crap. Always have done.

    • @TheBlowMachine69
      @TheBlowMachine69 2 роки тому

      @A p facts

  • @than217
    @than217 2 роки тому +588

    I used to hardcore believe Tasmanian Tigers still existed, now I have zero confidence of that. But the main takeaway from this video is just how serene and beautiful Tasmania's wilderness is. At first the guy came across a a quack but then he told the story about his daughter's death and it definitely made me realize he's looking for purpose, he doesn't want his daughter's death to be in vain. Such a tragedy, I feel bad for the guy.

    • @jaymannewell
      @jaymannewell 2 роки тому +31

      That is his MO down pat, Scam you, tell you he has proof he doesn't, says he doesn't ask for money, asks for money, (*how much did vice pay ?) a lot of this is not shot in Tassie, and after it all when he has you he pleads about his grief and his loss, oh poor bugger me, dead beat dad dads, no wonder the women leave these idiots, spent half a million$$$ of whose money ? worth a marriage ? I only feel bad for all the people he has scammed and his daughter...

    • @mixadengitti
      @mixadengitti 2 роки тому +52

      @@jaymannewell can you support your arguments? How do you know some of it wasn’t shot in Tasmania and that he’s a scammer?

    • @beco5002
      @beco5002 2 роки тому +68

      @@jaymannewell jesus you seem bitter af

    • @jayydz5833
      @jayydz5833 2 роки тому +11

      @@jaymannewell dam it’s Christmas chill lmfao

    • @spjr99
      @spjr99 2 роки тому +10

      @@jaymannewell it is well and possible they exist. it's christmas. you must have no one to love you if you are this bitter

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel Рік тому +10

    Wow, I'm the same age as his daughter would be now. That's pretty rough, and I think it does a lot to explain a man seeking out something everyone else says is lost. I hope he finds those thylacines he's looking for and gets recognised for the work he's done!

  • @peacechronicthedevelopment
    @peacechronicthedevelopment Рік тому +14

    Ever since I was a little girl,I saw a video of the tassie tiger and I never once stopped believing it,was still out there and the fact that Vice gave this man a voice,gives me so much joy,I am moved by tears,I would love to meet these men and hug them for all their hard work and perseverance through all the trials of life and the comments of zoologist and anyone who downed them. I love these people and I stand for them,let’s do everything in our humanity to maintain,protect and preserve our wild life,no matter the sightings or not! All living things hold value and I appreciate them for keeping their heads up! I’m so happy the work paid off and I really would love to meet them!! They made my childhood dreams come true to see this beautiful animal alive and thriving again in it’s natural environment,something that humans took from it and something we now can learn from and protect moving forward I hope that’s what comes of this truthfully. ❤️

    • @aristarchinski272
      @aristarchinski272 Рік тому

      When you put commas in sentences, you add a space after it, like this.
      Commas in sentences don’t look like,this.

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 2 роки тому +499

    I was sorry to hear about the loss of his young daughter who was just 17 years old 2009 from the first guy. To hear that she was also incinerated during the accident must have been truly horrifying. I lost my parents around that time and I am still struggling severely with it. The constant reminders of the absence of those who were once close to us is debilitating
    I suspect that his time in the wilderness is about much more than just the Tazzie whether is exists or not. I do see how being close to nature and having a goal provides provides a bit of peace and escape in his life
    As for the second guy, it was sad to hear that he lost his partner and children as a result of his obsession with the Tazzie

    • @MrEvtmazda
      @MrEvtmazda 2 роки тому +7

      Sorry for your loss. Remember no day is guranteed so live life like today is your last.

    • @militaryjunkie6207
      @militaryjunkie6207 2 роки тому +2

      Imagine if humans lived in Mars, visited earth and saw all the animals that were alive back that. Humans are dangerous creatures.

    • @grime2.085
      @grime2.085 2 роки тому +5

      He says he’s looking for the Tasmanian tiger but subconsciously I think he’s still searching for his daughter slowly learning to grieve.

    • @katana_3558
      @katana_3558 Рік тому

      God bless you

    • @melissafarrugia9531
      @melissafarrugia9531 Рік тому

      Yes like this perhaps extinct animal provides more comfort and coping than ever thought possible, by seeking it. I do believe it is possible... Australia is so big even Tassie is big.
      Huge hugs to both blokes, You are awesome. Keep doing You

  • @dehartfamily3091
    @dehartfamily3091 2 роки тому +106

    I didn’t even know much about this animal, but I’m drawn to the hyper focused energy of Neil. Vice, you never disappoint in delivering a story that leaves us a little different in actionable ways. I think it’s a Tasmanian Tiger in the picture. It has stripes. Looks like a baby. Doesn’t look like anything else. To deny that seems jaded in an unproductively misanthropic way - I choose positive hope even though it doesn’t really matter to me personally, if it matters to Neil, it’s a benefit I’ll choose to give.

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 2 роки тому +3

      Cheers DeHart Family. I have another interview regarding those photos that I will be publishing soon on our UA-cam channel. The lady I speak to in it has been hand raising Pademelon's for over 60 years and knows her stuff....

    • @nb6175
      @nb6175 2 роки тому +1

      A numbat has stripes, but the picture looks to be a ferel cat. The shape of it's ears and head gives it away IMO. Whatever it is it also lacks stripes on its rump.

  • @tonybruce6611
    @tonybruce6611 Рік тому +19

    I have so much admiration for you sir. Not just what you have achieved but what you have survived

  • @sammyb7243
    @sammyb7243 Рік тому +5

    hereing your story about your daughter reminds me on how my dad reacted when my brother died the sadness in his eye, but when his brother died 5yrs ago was something ive never forgot because as we where getting ready for my uncles funeral something showed up on the cctv at the front corner of the house i couldn't believe what i was seeing i got my dad he played it back over 100 times then said delete it and never tell anyone in the town i still no what we sore was a tasi tiger for sure .there had been a lot of sightings of it over the last 20yrs near my town .but hearing your story brought back those memories as i lost my dad only 8months ago

  • @corruptpixel8441
    @corruptpixel8441 Рік тому +806

    I think you could do a whole documentary about how the tasmanian tiger is a coping mechanism for him and how that has ended up making him isolated from everyone

    • @Telltale.
      @Telltale. Рік тому +129

      @Levi Chicwown apparently the real tassie tigers were the friends he made along the way

    • @kaelthunderhoof5619
      @kaelthunderhoof5619 Рік тому +10

      @@Telltale. it's not the destination they say. It's the journey.

    • @jakemitchell1671
      @jakemitchell1671 Рік тому +22

      Yep. I would be absolutely thrilled if the TT were still living. But I'm self-aware enough to know that my wanting it influences my perspective. I feel very, very sad for people who believe in things of which there is no evidence, much less scientific proof - such as those who believe in BigFoot. If the archeaological record doesn't have it....it never existed. Period. You can't claim something lives if not a single bone or hair or tooth exists in the ground.

    • @young_steve9967
      @young_steve9967 Рік тому +21

      @@jakemitchell1671 Actually bigfoot has a great deal of physical evidence, they've found dermal ridges in the casts of bigfoot prints, also the weight distribution and depth of those prints matched what we would expect from a primate that big, not to mention the various video footage, photographs, and audio recordings. It's a really interesting topic to look into, would recommend.

    • @jakemitchell1671
      @jakemitchell1671 Рік тому +55

      @@young_steve9967 Thank you. I do very much respect your opinion and recommendations. But I've looked into the matter with great interest and effort. My father was an archeaologist, and my PhD minor was anthropology. That isn't said with any ego. I know MUCH less than a determined, dedicated amateur. While what you say is not untrue, the larger context is that whatever has been found in support of the existence of bigfoot is scientifically insignificant when compared to other living organisms. The archeaological record is absolutely overrun with direct evidence of the creatures we know to exist and to have existed. If bigfoot exists today, then that means bigfoot has existed for millenia. Therefore breeding populations essentially would have "always" existed (from our perspective). That fact dictates that hundreds of thousands (millions?) of bigfoot creatures would have populated the Earth (or at least certain parts of it). Hundreds of thousands of large animals existing over hundreds of thousands of years leave ample evidence. It wouldn't be a matter of conjecture. No one argues that woolly mammoths existed - or short-faced bears, or dinosaurs, or saber-toothed tigers. They left bones, teeth, tusks, fecal matter, even entire specimens. There is no proof or even direct evidence of bigfoot in the arch record. We are left to argue over possible hair samples, dermal ridges, casts of footprints. Add to that the fact that over the past 100 years countless people have hunted for them...the proliferation of game/trail cameras placed all over the world, satellite imagery, drones...the encroachment of civilization into the wilderness. Yet....still...with all that....we don't have ONE *irrefutable* image of a bigfoot. At the same time we have literally millions of clear images of creatures we know to exist. I do not mean any of this overly-long disseration critically or to discount your views on the matter. I'm simply stating my opinion as it exists today. TL/DR: if bigfoot exists, we wouldn't have to debate it.

  • @Evounme09
    @Evounme09 2 роки тому +371

    I've got so much respect for this man. He put all his grief n pain into creating history. I know his daughters looking down on him as proud as can be!!

    • @striderwhiston9897
      @striderwhiston9897 2 роки тому +4

      Neil is not who you think he is, if you go to cookie's video on it shows his actual personality a lot.
      Neil literally screams at you if you say that his so called "100% undisprovable evidence" is bad, because it is, and he'll legitimately call you a ton of profanity and such over it.
      Check out cookie's video on it, he's not the person you think he is.

    • @DetroitFettyghost
      @DetroitFettyghost 2 роки тому +9

      @@striderwhiston9897 dude stop spamming your hate already it's all over this page. Chill.

    • @striderwhiston9897
      @striderwhiston9897 2 роки тому +3

      @@DetroitFettyghost People deserve to know he's not some dedicated cool almighty god lmao

    • @DetroitFettyghost
      @DetroitFettyghost 2 роки тому +2

      @@striderwhiston9897 Reread the main comment by the original commenter than. He NEVER said he was a god, perfect, or anything else near that. And here you are trashing him. That makes YOU the SAME as NEIL and ME all DISAGREEING in a comment section. So.......

    • @MrRecklessryan
      @MrRecklessryan 2 роки тому

      @@DetroitFettyghost Those are just the facts, go take a look, the guy obviously has a few screws loose.

  • @SCAPEGOAT316
    @SCAPEGOAT316 Рік тому +7

    The two guys doing the animal noises at each other was my favourite part. Nice job guys. Love your work

  • @iamsuzerain3987
    @iamsuzerain3987 2 роки тому +236

    I really hope that some Thylacines have managed to hang on, and that they can re-establish themselves in the ecosystem. What a tragic thing to hunt an animal to extinction

    • @krotchlickmeugh627
      @krotchlickmeugh627 2 роки тому +12

      What do you think happened to the dinosaurs?
      You think a meteorite wiped them all out?
      Look up ancient indian cave drawings of dinosaurs.
      Ask yourself.
      If dinosaurs went extinct a million years ago.
      Why did indians paint them with all the skin on them rather than just bones? .

    • @GabeDoppel
      @GabeDoppel 2 роки тому +41

      @@krotchlickmeugh627 LOL gotta give you props, that's a new one

    • @bignig7223
      @bignig7223 2 роки тому +6

      @@krotchlickmeugh627 Tf you smoking on

    • @dudeski486
      @dudeski486 2 роки тому +10

      @@krotchlickmeugh627 We didn't exist during the time of dinosaurs. Also it wasn't just a meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, tsunamis, earthquakes and volcanoes all at the same time resulted in the extinction of dinosaurs. (The reason for the earthquakes and the tsunamis would be the 10 km wide meteor that struck near the gulf of mexico.)

    • @dudeski486
      @dudeski486 2 роки тому +3

      @A p There are international laws for animals that are in danger of extinction/near extinction, the thylacines would be protected until they reach a sustainable number where they can be hunted without damaging the number of thylacines that are capable of reproducing. (presumably over 50 to 100 thousand of them.)

  • @sylyx3912
    @sylyx3912 2 роки тому +22

    Respect for this man for not giving up because it takes dedication and guts to not fall into depression

  • @Adeus1
    @Adeus1 Місяць тому +1

    My heart absolutely breaks for this man. Being a father, myself, I can't even imagine or fathom the level of unending pain he's enduring. May she rest peace and may you find peace and strength.

  • @megs4193
    @megs4193 2 місяці тому +1

    I know a young lad who goes out wood hooking, he sells firewood for a living, he's seen 2 Tasmanian tigers in 10 years. He's sworn he'll never ever tell anyone where so history doesn't repeat itself, his dog is the one that seemed to get it's interest, I've known this young man since he was 5 years old,he's not someone who needs attention or is known for tall tales. And his number 1 concern was not wanting people to know where, he wouldn't even tell me and i was like a second mum to him, ❤ but i agree with him. The Tasmanian tiger found a way to protect itself, humans have done enough 💞.

  • @chrisgould9960
    @chrisgould9960 2 роки тому +189

    Ive worked as a wildlife biologist and resource specialist within a 30 year career, and i can tell you this, ive proven government entities wrong on one rather large occasion for a "threatened specie", well documented.
    Good on him if the proof is there, i think this is an extremely dedicated effort, and there is little reason for me to believe this animal is extinct. Extirpated from some areas, yes, but look at the aerial photography and topography of tasmania, and you'll realize that this animal could still be making a decent living, and repdoducing, in Tasmania.
    The thing I would look for are proportions. In zoology, that is the standard without a specimen (better if you have done, but not now in this one). Tail length vs overall length (premaxila to pubis), ear length to skull length, etc. Its difficult to do with a photo, but it can reasonably be done well enough to decide on dedicating resources to that location or another.
    We have killed off many species obviously, the Imperial Woodpecker comes to mind, but some hang on, and it is not reasonable to just assume this animal is gone because a gov entity says so.
    There are incredible political pressures for civil servants that exist for not recognizing a specie is there, or minimizing evidence. Agriculture (livestock) and forestry would apply those pressures in Tasmania, and ive spent a career dealing with these issues for wildlife and plants.

    • @mandagodin5075
      @mandagodin5075 2 роки тому +3

      Thank you for this!

    • @annelorraine9529
      @annelorraine9529 2 роки тому +5

      I find it interesting that you mention the Imperial Woodpecker due to lack of survey in the area making it hard to know for certain. I think the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker is a great example of this maybe saying extinct too soon. Credible photos (and a very convincing 2008 video) have been cited almost yearly for the past 20 years yet it has been declared extinct. Last I heard there’s a movement by some university professors in the South to do a larger scale study to rediscover the species

    • @chrisgould9960
      @chrisgould9960 2 роки тому +7

      @@annelorraine9529 all true, if one has the funding we'd know :) with that example, we'd be dealing with an unbridled narco state to do any surveys at all (read gods middle finger) and im sure there would be surveyor casualties, but that bird could indeed exist still. Ive travelled the area in 2004, and it was a mess then, hard to tell if a field crew could make that work.
      The endangered sp act, modeled by other countries, but starting in the US, says "best available data" . the data cant be garbage, but, its best available, which could be garbage. Ive dealt with this, and in this case, words matter. It was written that way for a reason. Other countries followed the model.
      If we made a scientific determination before the designation of endangered, threatened, or extinct, we'd be more sure, but that is $. In the example above, way above, 35 or 37 plants were "found", in 1997, and the plant was listed as "threatened"
      I hired a crew of 36 and found 250k plants in 2004, and 1.8million in 2005. 2.4 million dollars later we had extremely good data.
      In the end, part of this quagmire is about private interests and conservation related to habitat, not the tagged specie, but legislatively, we got the ESA, not a comprehensive look at the specie, or the habitat. When we stovepibe biota this way, we all lose.

    • @nathanbennett496
      @nathanbennett496 2 роки тому +18

      I can personally relate to how governments and public institutions turn a blind eye to some “extinct” wildlife. I’ve personally seen a melanistic puma (ie “black panther) in the wild near the WV/MD border near to the Youghagany river. I was super excited and since I was working for the Department of Agriculture at the time I mentioned what I’d seen to some DNR employees and was told I must have been mistaken. One officer said “If we admitted they’re still here we’d have outcry from livestock farmers and families with children thinking lives are threatened, land use and development would need changed to comply with ESA, officially the eastern cougar is extinct”…

    • @cowmaneater1243
      @cowmaneater1243 2 роки тому

      @@nathanbennett496 in your opinion, wouldn't it be for the best then it wouldn't be acknowledged? If it were to be and it would throw a wrench into 100s if not thousands of peoples day (eminent dominan-ing peoples land etc) is that worth it for a few stragglers of an extinic species ?

  • @chloe2965
    @chloe2965 2 роки тому +150

    This feels like some OG vice. It was these types of videos that inspired me to make videos way back when. Love the free hand filming, story telling and simplicity.

    • @krotchlickmeugh627
      @krotchlickmeugh627 2 роки тому +3

      Youre talking about vice when gavin mcguiness was still the founder.
      Before he was robbed of his creation.

    • @kublaiwon8040
      @kublaiwon8040 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly how I feel.

  • @TheChewymedia
    @TheChewymedia 5 місяців тому +3

    This documentary has me 100% believe they are extinct. Thanks mate.

  • @Tam0de
    @Tam0de Рік тому +25

    I'm not an Australian but if the Thylacine is proven to still exist & very much alive, I'd be no doubt ecstatic. It's because it shows anything is possible. It's also about 2nd chances. When the Thylacine was still numerous, people decimated their numbers. People have since realized the mistake they've done. And they want another chance with the Thylacine. I can guarantee that this time around, if there's enough of them to sustain a viable population, the Thylacine will be treated like superstars.

  • @freshprince130
    @freshprince130 2 роки тому +33

    I lost my 2 year old daughter and this brought me to tears. Kudos man for working through your grief. I don't know if I'm doing it the most effectively. 😕

    • @blaineorr6195
      @blaineorr6195 2 роки тому +11

      freshprince130 Hang in there bro.

    • @AGDinCA
      @AGDinCA 2 роки тому

      @Freshprince130 Do you feel comfortable talking about what happened or how you're feeling? From your statement, it would seem your path to recovery is a bit murky. I won't insult you by pretending that I can imagine how you feel, but I am fully capable of listening with an empathetic ear.

    • @agni_oh
      @agni_oh 2 роки тому +1

      Sending so much love and hugs to you💛

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 2 роки тому +1

      Dude, grief is a very personal thing. I hear your pain. We all do it our own way and there are no rules on what is right. What is right for you is right for you. Know this. Julia died on Valentines day. It ripped my heart out of my chest and I wanted to die. I screamed at the sky for days and close friends literally picked me up off the ground. I drank 6 bottles of whiskey in 4 days. I wanted to die. But, I soon realised I had another daughter who needed me. I had a funeral to organise. So that was the 1st step to some sort of recovery. It took me 4 months to fully realise I had things left to do here on Earth and I wasn't getting away from those things. I ended up going to India and Nepal at the end of the year for 2 months doing charity work with orphans and farmers just so I could end the year on a positive note. Julia stayed with me for 3.5 years before she came to say goodbye. I was very fortunate that she came to see me 20 or 30 times after she died. I knew she still existed somewhere out there.... I came back from India and decided I was moving to Tassie. This broke Sharna's heart again, but I needed to find me. I was only in Tassie for 18 months then I was back in SA trying to fix things with Sharna. She hated me, and I had to work bloody hard to gain her trust, respect and love. But we got there in the end and after 7 years back in SA I decided to return to Tassie with her blessing in 2019. All the things worth dying for are hard earnt in the living mate. Just do what brings your heart joy. I promise you, the dead are never far from the living. Stay strong and draw on your reserves in your tank. We all have them....Neil.

  • @duster.
    @duster. 28 днів тому +1

    To my untrained eye, the shadows on the foliage of other foliage is at a totally different angle to the stripes on the back of the animal. Great documentary, heart rending, hilarious and eye opening.

  • @keeshlon
    @keeshlon Рік тому +2

    Did I miss the photos? He said he had pictures of the female, young and a male. I only saw the blurry rear end of an animal of some sort. Where are the other pictures?

  • @anawkwardsweetpotato4728
    @anawkwardsweetpotato4728 2 роки тому +144

    It's not the clearest picture, but that was definitely not a pademelon. And that footage from 2008 and 2016 was breathtaking. Thylacines have got to still be here!

    • @waty0usay1
      @waty0usay1 2 роки тому +9

      Copium.

    • @nintalespaw
      @nintalespaw 2 роки тому +4

      The footage seems the least credible to me. Google what dingos look like, native to Australia. The bone structure of the head doesn't match a Taz

    • @jaymannewell
      @jaymannewell 2 роки тому +5

      He mostly uses distance images of numbats. easier to take size out of context, i've heard him say they pay more because of the natural stripes.
      I also know a bloke who will take you out camping in a spot you will see one for $10,000 if you're keen..
      LOL

    • @jnmwtkns
      @jnmwtkns 2 роки тому +5

      @@jaymannewell a conman born everyday.
      And a sucker born Every second.✌️

  • @AndroqMinoq
    @AndroqMinoq 2 роки тому +259

    I truly hope the Tasmanian Tiger is still out there. Reason being is that it would serve as a rare example of Mother Nature winning against us silly humans.

    • @raudeloruna2600
      @raudeloruna2600 2 роки тому +4

      Oh stop...were part of "Mother Nature" too you dork.

    • @spartza1638
      @spartza1638 2 роки тому +26

      @@raudeloruna2600 Only our primitive selves, in this day and age we rely solely upon technology. He is correct, unless the machinery we use to hunt and deforest their habitats you consider to be "mother nature". As long as man has coexisted with organisms we have utilized this to our advantage - it is our innovation which sets us apart, if our innovation was stripped from us then for the most part your claim is more accurate.

    • @dopevids4252
      @dopevids4252 2 роки тому +1

      @@raudeloruna2600 you're part of them, thinking we're superior to Mother Nature/The Most High, everything isnt so calculated how we think it is and humans are not in control just accept it..

    • @raudeloruna2600
      @raudeloruna2600 2 роки тому +7

      @@spartza1638 our evolution, including the innovations that led to our current technology is all part of "Mother Nature." Tf you think, we were transplanted on this planet or something?

    • @spartza1638
      @spartza1638 2 роки тому +9

      @@raudeloruna2600 No, but what he is referring to is our industrialist behaviour. As far as I am concerned I am yet to see apes build chainsaws.

  • @WiggleBabies
    @WiggleBabies Рік тому +4

    The photo does look like one, just not the super clear photo we are wanting. That back shot does look more closer to the Tas Tiger tho.

  • @brianholloway1451
    @brianholloway1451 Рік тому +2

    I am a retired wildlife photographer spent more than half a century in the bush I have seen the Trylascene twice also found a breeding colony of night parrots and a breeding colony of swift parrots. If you haven't got any money it will take you decades to take good photographs of something amazingly elusive but if you have money photographs can be obtained relatively quickly. It is purely systematic and a realistic knowledge of the bush. Ellis McNamara and Norman Chaffer work colleagues of mine both incredible photographers. And yes both of them have seen the Trylascene. Sorry about the spelling but I'm speaking this into the computer. Happy hunting. If I was a betting person the photograph your game looks like a baby pig. If you was really serious about taking photographs you would've had at least a movie of it not one still that is blurry. And that is what I am trying to say if you haven't got a lot of money to do this it is almost a waste of time sorry just giving you my professional opinion.

  • @Papa-eb1lt
    @Papa-eb1lt 2 роки тому +16

    This whole story as a kid in the 70’s really upset me. That footage of the last one ripped my heart out,still does.

  • @armeh3371
    @armeh3371 2 роки тому +39

    The part that the dog was singing with Neil made my day
    You are a legend Neil

  • @shortfuse7839
    @shortfuse7839 Рік тому +5

    Where are the other photos? Would love to see them

  • @GreenyAU
    @GreenyAU Рік тому +13

    And now and we have the genetic code, the blueprint, to recreate the thylacine and bring it back from "extinction" . Guess what, they recently just confirmed they will be bringing the beautiful tazzy tiger back

    • @greeneggsspam3969
      @greeneggsspam3969 Рік тому

      I hope so. I heard about it from the time they revived black-footed ferrets, but I didn’t do research so idk if it’s even true.

    • @nymzar9249
      @nymzar9249 Рік тому +2

      The thing is a copy will never be like the real thing it may look like it but probably will act different and unfortunately be confined it’s entire life because of the cost it will be to create

  • @michaeldonovan2545
    @michaeldonovan2545 2 роки тому +80

    I concur with your enthusiasm here, and please do not give up. In my early twenties, I used to visit friends who had a farming property in bushland in Nicholson, in East Gippsland, Victoria. Their son's used to take me out into the bush at night, "Spotlighting" for rabbits on the carry-all attached to their tractor rear. As we descended down a fire access track I saw what I thought was a large dog run across our path, stop and look at us, then ran into the bush on the other side of the track. I first thought it was a mangy dog, but I noticed the stripes across its body, its very sharp and pointy nose, but most of all, its tail protruded straight out from the top of its rear, which looked unusual. My friends laughed at my reaction to it and explained it was "one of those tiger things"!!!. They explained, the locals were well aware of them, and you could hear their weird bark in the night, in the bush. My recommendation, if you get the chance after Tassie, head for Gippsland, you are bound to have some luck there. Well done.

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 2 роки тому +14

      Cheers Michael. Always been a hot zone over there.

    • @stephenenglish4150
      @stephenenglish4150 2 роки тому +2

      My father also saw one In Victoria deep in the pinnicles myrtleford

    • @katana_3558
      @katana_3558 Рік тому +1

      @@neilwaters7543 all the best neil

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 Рік тому +7

      @@katana_3558 cheers. Still slogging away at it. Never a dull moment on this adventure that's for certain.

  • @animallivesmatter7852
    @animallivesmatter7852 Рік тому +133

    The way these poor Tasmanian tigers were treated is absolutely heartbreaking

    • @thebreatheezkeselowskifan6687
      @thebreatheezkeselowskifan6687 Рік тому +32

      Yeah I can’t understand why the human race would just kill them because we were scared of them. And to kill what we thought was the last one in that zoo, is pathetic by the human race.

    • @notfamouschristopher
      @notfamouschristopher Рік тому +13

      There's a story that a breeding pair was being shipped to USA zoo but boat crashed in Mexico.. the story goes that they could have lived (Chupacabra of Mexico might be )
      So little ray of hope they are still around somewhere..
      Side story I moved to small village in Africa (tanzania.) I was taking a pee I'm bushes , middle of day and this animal came running past me with a chicken in its mouth. I asked locals what it was .. they called it the chicken eater.
      I looked up many animals to find out it was a white tailed mongoose..
      First is they are not known to live in area I was, second I could only find pictures of them at night . Third the one I see was bigger then those in pictures (size of medium dog) I later found it dead in an old well . ) So truly got to see it was bigger then the ones in pictures.. guessing different species or sub group..
      All the locals know of it and I have sense seen white tail mongoose in Nairobi Kenya in city and yes they are smaller..
      So there is lots of possibilities when it comes to animals species we still don't know as local are just used to certain animals that the rest of world don't even know about...

    • @Kiwiz1830
      @Kiwiz1830 Рік тому

      @@thebreatheezkeselowskifan6687 white race you mean? Stop trying to sugar coat it bro

    • @artken4901
      @artken4901 Рік тому

      ?

  • @joelsolotv7960
    @joelsolotv7960 Рік тому +4

    God Bless this genuine man. I hope he finds this beautiful animal.

  • @issy_b_onair
    @issy_b_onair Рік тому +2

    Seeing that old film reel of the tiger pacing in a small, concrete cage just triggers so much resentment towards humans.

  • @leomarkaable1
    @leomarkaable1 2 роки тому +106

    Apart from this man's personal tragedy, the larger tragedy of insurmountable loss is present in this documentary. In the lower 48, the same level of loss started to well up regarding the American Bald Eagle. Luckily those eagles didn't die out. 100 yards behind my house in the south of the Twin Cities in Minnesota, a pair of eagles built a nest high up in an elm tree, two years ago. This morning (Christmas) one flew over my backyard just above the top of my house. What a beautiful bird, with a deep brown body and striking white head and tail.

    • @brokebankfishin4839
      @brokebankfishin4839 2 роки тому +6

      If there is any animal we could compare to i would say the Bison the only difference is we stopped right at the edge of no return.

    • @BlackOceanSociety
      @BlackOceanSociety 2 роки тому +6

      Not so pleasent when you pull into your driveway and a bald eagle and hawk are fighting over a mutilated seagull lol

    • @sithis1711
      @sithis1711 2 роки тому +1

      @@BlackOceanSociety who won

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 2 роки тому +4

      I saw a bald eagle at the Quabbin reservoir in Massachusetts. My pulse raced and I clumsily fumbled with my phone to take a photo. It was like I saw a Sasquatch. Then I see videos from Alaska where they're hanging out in the parking lot at Walmart.

    • @elizabethechase
      @elizabethechase 2 роки тому +3

      @@MakerInMotion they're all over around me- I feel so very fortunate to have grown up thinking they would be extinct by the time I grew to be an adult, and then see them defy the odds. Just amazing. I got a kick out of how you put it, and pictured them chilling about the Walmart parking lot. Actually saw one flying over the Walmart near me a few weeks back.

  • @KJC143
    @KJC143 7 місяців тому +1

    From @15:00 to @15:18 when Neil and his pup are singing together until the pup was tuckered out made me tear up. What an ADORABLE duo. Neil better protect that dog at all costs, he is so lucky to have such an amazing sidekick and best friend. 😭🤎🐶🐕

  • @jimm2297
    @jimm2297 2 роки тому +10

    I live in Geeveston, Tasmania. From the end of my road a couple of km away, it's pretty much 80km due west as the crow flies to the west coast. All remote National Park, no roads, few tracks and likely no humans. 180km NW same story, and walk 180km due North to Cradle Mountain, you wouldn't likely encounter enough people to fill a bus. There is so much wilderness that anything is possible.

    • @MrRichManGuy
      @MrRichManGuy 2 місяці тому

      Why the heck aren't you searching?!

  • @claytonbearden7793
    @claytonbearden7793 Рік тому +1

    Man the sadness in Andrew's voice when talking about his kids! Dude that got me man.

  • @cinnyyyy
    @cinnyyyy Рік тому +16

    i hope your out there thylacine... i really hope so, i hope they find or bring back the thylacine before i die

  • @bas3tekk399
    @bas3tekk399 2 роки тому +31

    I have personally met neil waters and been on a field research trip with him and his group. Extremely knowledgeable man and yes I believe they are on the mainland. Seen anything strange or unusual always report it to the awareness group

  • @tgoddard1988
    @tgoddard1988 2 роки тому +87

    I first fell in love with the Thylacine in the early 2000's when watching some obscure wildlife documentary, I looked up anything and everything I could find about them but I don't remember EVER coming across anything suggesting they might not be extinct! But the truth of it is that there have been a fair few species that were thought to be extinct but later turned out to still be around, so this is not all together surprising. It really does warrant major study as Australian animals are some of the most unique on the planet!

  • @harrisquicksilver6595
    @harrisquicksilver6595 Рік тому

    Im so sorry u lost your little girl, i pray for u and offer u my sincerest condolences. I cant imagine what that must feel like and i hope God blesses the rest of your life with his love.

  • @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871

    It's very possible that they're not extinct and in small groups in a few pockets only, I know that there's meant to be four or five pockets.
    They are a stealthy animal around the size of a medium dog only when most people think that they're the size of a larger dog.
    Hopefully they are still going instead of being extinct!

  • @mattgalley8587
    @mattgalley8587 2 роки тому +148

    This guy is an inspiration to anyone grieving or just suffering in general

  • @kyledammann4284
    @kyledammann4284 2 роки тому +28

    Best produced video on Vice I’ve watched so far. Someone put this crew up for an award!

  • @dlmalley8639
    @dlmalley8639 Рік тому

    So sorry for your loss 😢 😞 💔
    Grieving is so hard to get through day to day.
    I know.

  • @yougallimboo5694
    @yougallimboo5694 10 місяців тому +1

    this type of documentaries are my timepass...knowledgable and interesting

  • @coreywagar3890
    @coreywagar3890 2 роки тому +287

    Heard about this awhile ago, was shocked there hasnt been more coverage.
    They are amazing animals.

    • @raingoff5839
      @raingoff5839 2 роки тому +24

      It's cause most find the footage isn't that convincing

    • @reidyo5404
      @reidyo5404 2 роки тому +5

      @@raingoff5839 in an age where I can find a deepfake of any celebrity , video isn’t as final a proof as it used to be

    • @raingoff5839
      @raingoff5839 2 роки тому +5

      @@reidyo5404 it's mainly because people find the image isn't very full proof and think it's quite ambiguous

    • @Tom-uv7ry
      @Tom-uv7ry 2 роки тому +14

      Because he never found anything you Div kid that's why he's been talking absolute twaddle for years it doesn't make it true and he's found sweet bugger all in other words Nothing

    • @Tom-uv7ry
      @Tom-uv7ry 2 роки тому +10

      @Lizard Tortilla hurt me ? Nobody hurt me silly little boy.
      I'm a 36 year old man not a little boy like you and I need more evidence than that silly little Corey called Corey does he may be easily led and gullible but I'm not you daft kid .

  • @thewanderingwolves90
    @thewanderingwolves90 2 роки тому +61

    Hearing his story about his daughter is heartbreaking I lost my dad suddenly in July n I'm struggling really bad with depression and sleepless nights, listening to his story has sort of helped 💔 thankyou Sir you seem like a really nice and genuine man

    • @JosePerez-ok8ez
      @JosePerez-ok8ez 2 роки тому +2

      Lost my dad in 06 one day after my b day it's been a while but it hurts like hell still , lost my mom in 2016 now that's killing me . But hang in there I went through a big depression and just like your going through but time helps

    • @stalinkryuff7039
      @stalinkryuff7039 2 роки тому +1

      Dont worry ur dad is in beautiful place ik how u feel like im here we all are here to remind you tat the strength in walking alone knowing your pops presence is around you from all harm n evil god bless stay safe sis

    • @krismartin1181
      @krismartin1181 2 роки тому +2

      I am sorry for your loss I lost my daughter last year it’s been rough keep your chin up I believe in you

  • @Badger705
    @Badger705 7 місяців тому

    He and his dog singing together is fantastic

  • @aoxxi
    @aoxxi Рік тому +4

    Powerful. How do you NOT stagnate after such a loss? Great content.

  • @rangeroadmoto
    @rangeroadmoto 2 роки тому +23

    Absolute beautiful storytelling everyone involved. I feel excited, inspired and full of wonder at this story and this man.
    Thank you for making this.

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 2 роки тому +9

    daughter was 17, that is so sad. hes living what life is all about. finding a passion and DOING IT.

  • @jessetaylor5798
    @jessetaylor5798 Рік тому +2

    Bless this man need more people in this world like him

  • @bennyandersen742
    @bennyandersen742 3 місяці тому

    No matter how much I stare at that picture I just don't see a thylacin, still, I wish you the best of luck and hope you don't give up searching. Finding that animal would be a true sensation and absolutely insanely awesome.

  • @Adrian-zd4cs
    @Adrian-zd4cs 2 роки тому +4

    Man - I know all about grief and finding your own ways of working through it. What a beautiful piece.
    Bonus was the heartwarming part of his dog singing along with him! 💖💕

  • @miadecember6587
    @miadecember6587 2 роки тому +73

    I keep hoping and praying for a successful find of the Tassie that is undisputed. I became interested in this animal as a child. I see the word thylacine, or Tasmanian Tiger, and I automatically must click on it.

  • @tapewerm6716
    @tapewerm6716 10 місяців тому +1

    3:06 .. I love how he keeps the coleslaw dressing in the freezer with the scat lol.

  • @ryanmcmahon3555
    @ryanmcmahon3555 Рік тому +1

    Me & my mum saw one when I was 15, running across the road between mildura & redcliffs on main land Australia. But that was about 25-ish years ago.

    • @neilwaters7543
      @neilwaters7543 Рік тому

      Ah awesome. There are still a few sightings up the riverland area on both sides of the Murray.

  • @thedon9770
    @thedon9770 2 роки тому +62

    Really interesting documentary . Give that bloke some funding, does more than most politicians .

    • @jberg0077
      @jberg0077 2 роки тому +1

      Fn Struth mate !!

  • @domiwomi628
    @domiwomi628 2 роки тому +105

    Loved this doc. The framing is so respectful and fair. Also love what Neil is doing starting this scientific debate

    • @lawoull.6581
      @lawoull.6581 2 роки тому

      Do you like my style🤔

    • @Ron_swanson_true_libertarian
      @Ron_swanson_true_libertarian 2 роки тому +3

      @@lawoull.6581 If by style you mean "credit grabbing d*ck face" then no I don't like your style

    • @lawoull.6581
      @lawoull.6581 2 роки тому

      @@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian ahh..no..lol. that's cold..wow

    • @lawoull.6581
      @lawoull.6581 2 роки тому

      My was a character...My was the name...oh my...didn't know you were on some dik sht

    • @Ron_swanson_true_libertarian
      @Ron_swanson_true_libertarian 2 роки тому +1

      @@lawoull.6581 The best part of you hit the bathroom floor along a highway somewhere the day you were conceived and just think, for the sake of a dollar we could of avoided this conversation had your mum not uttered them words "I'm clean" shame really.

  • @AlexIsModded
    @AlexIsModded Рік тому +1

    When you look at the thylacine's posture, its back hips especially, and then you compare it to fossils of gorgonopsids, they are strikingly similar. I'm not saying the thylacine was (is) a modern day gorgonopsid, but it does look like the body plan from that group of paleo-animals carried over into our modern world, doesn't it? I see some similarities in posture with the earliest whale species also (FYI, whales originated on land), especially regarding the back hips and that "tip-toe" walk, although thylacine are most definitely not ungulates. Thylacine is a fascinating animal, nonetheless and almost spooky to look at in these old videos.

  • @ShannonLH1108
    @ShannonLH1108 Рік тому

    Him singing with his beautiful Dobie was my favorite part ❤️

  • @intoishun2556
    @intoishun2556 2 роки тому +15

    very odd topic but do have to say, that clip from 2008 was 100% one of those things

    • @donaldsimpson26
      @donaldsimpson26 2 роки тому +1

      For sure everything else looks suspect but that was good video