Same can be said about people that drive , “bmw , Subaru, Toyota, Nissan, Volkswagen, Porsche, Lamborghini, ford , dodge , Chevy” basically any make of vehicles.
This one is easy for me. I like old BMWs. I am not a "BMW guy," nor do I drive like one. I do, however, know why BMW driver's get so much hate. The Jeep community is much the same. A significant portion of the community are insufferable snobs who think that Jeep is the only name in town.
"Because I like it." Is a totally valid and respectable response to the question "Why do you have a Jeep?". Some people just think Jeeps are neat, and that's ok. 👍
Exactly. Why would I spend my hard earned money on a car I don’t like. I don’t care how reliable a Honda civic is. It’s boring and looks ugly. I love my Jeep especially since I can take it anywhere. Many a time has the road near me been at a complete standstill and I just drive in the ditch next to the road while angry Tesla drivers cuss me out cause I don’t have to wait. It’s great!
Fun fact, here in Portugal, the name Jeep, for decades have been used to describe a 4x4. As a kid you learn that those tall boxy 4x4 vehicles, regardless of their brand, are called Jeep :) and once you watch Dakar, and learn about those Nissan "jeeps", it can get pretty confusing when you then finally see for the very first time an actual Jeep😂 "hey man i bought a jeep" "oh cool man, but is it jeep jeep or?" edit: i had no idea it was the case in so many other countries which is cool :)
I’m actually a Jeep salesman. Part of our training for selling a wrangler is identifying if our customer is what we call a “dreamer” or a “doer”. Yes those are technical terms from our FCA Jeep training. We are trained to ask questions to figure out if our customer is someone who wants a Jeep because they look cool and they want to drive it around and show it off, or if they are someone who needs extreme off-road performance and capability. Usually a “doer” is someone who would need locking front and rear diffs and a disconnecting front sway-bar offered in the rubicon trim level, while a “dreamer” would like a Sahara with its leather seats, heated seats, more comfortable suspension, and premium audio. We tailer how we present our product based on how we think our customer would use the Jeep.
My main complaint with Jeeps (specifically the Wrangler and Gladiator) is the build quality. Ordered a Gladiator Rubicon and was so excited when it came in, looked at it and saw it already had rust on the swaybar, scratches, and general paint imperfections like paint cratering. When I tried to address the issues the salesman just said "its a Jeep thing." Like wtf, how could they possibly fuck up painting mostly flat surfaces and get this to rust within a month of being built to delivery. My disappointment was immeasurable, so I walked from the order, went down the street, and ordered a Bronco. And I understand that once I wheel the vehicle it will incur rust and scratches over time, but if I'm paying $72k for a a vehicle, it better be built correctly from the factory. That being said, I do love the Gladiator, I just hate the incompetent buffoons that make them.
I love my Jeep TJ and always will. But something you gotta keep in mind when owning a Jeep is that you have to enjoy the weather no matter the weather. Those tops while they work aren't the best. Especially with a soft top and half doors you'll be enjoying the weather a lot.
That really depends on which Jeep you're driving. My first Jeep was a '56 Willys Overland. It was almost 40 years old, but could sill pull the jacked up Fords and Chevys out of the deep Wyoming snow drifts. That one was very cold in the winter though. The next one was a Wrangler TJ. It had a soft top, but the heater rocked! Not that I really needed it much in the Florida sand, but riding with the top down was awesome, if a bit loud. Now I've stepped up to the Cherokee Trailhawk Elite. Here in Missouri we get extreme heat in the summer, slick ice in the winter, and flooding in the spring and none of it will stop me from getting to work (I'm critical staff and a first responder, so getting there is extremely important), and I get there with every comfort imaginable. Tire and wind noise can't touch the 9 speaker alpine stereo, and my fingers never get cold on the heated leather wheel. :D
Same can be said for VWs. I've owned a 1996 Corolla followed by a 2002 Golf 2.Sl0w, a Jetta i5, and now a Passt 2.0T. All brand loyalty cars, all with their own quirks, but all ran solid enough not to fuck me over until I could afford something new.
I've always been a sports car guy, but I recently got an RC crawler and I totally see why people would want to crawl a vehicle over stuff. I just spent over an hour driving a 10" long car over some amazon boxes. If you have a Jeep and haven't taken it off road at all, you're really missing out.
Jeeps aren't for everyone. They're rough riding, can be loud (depending on the top), their gas mileage isn't great. But for the outdoorsy type that don't mind those things, they embrace a spirit that just cant be replicated. I'm sure motorcycle riders can relate.
@@donywahlberg I love riding motorcycles and I did the same thing. Sold my 9th gen Si and bought a Jeep XJ then eventually sold that for a Toyota FJ. There's just something about how raw these types of vehicles are. I do miss that Civic MPG though.
@@BionicBurke PREACH BROTHA! They need to offer stripped down, no frills chariots like they used to! Even if they're 4 cylinders! The 4 bangers of today make more power than the V-8 CJs back in the day.
I had a Dodge Dakota with Jeep 4 cylinder engine in it. I was able to drive 3 towns over to let my step brother work on it at his shop with only 1 cylinder of the 4 firing at 30 mph. That I felt was mighty impressive ruggedness for an engine
I had a ‘96 Cherokee in high school and I loved it! It had its quirks like the death wobble, not cranking occasionally, the fuel pump would starve at 1/4 tank going through a turn, etc. But I had tons of fun driving out to bonfires in the desert, exploring the petroglyphs, and even taking off-road short cuts going to work to cut around all the rush hour idiots coming home. That car had no business being as reliable and fun as it was with how I treated it, but it never gave up and never left me stranded
Lmao!! The fuel pump starving on a turn! Buddy of mine had the same problem with his. He called it “hybrid mode”. He got so used to it he would seamlessly pop the clutch to restart it. I used to talk trash about it. Then one day I was climbing out of the back seat (it was a two door) and the seat belt reached out and twisted around my ankle! I swear it did! I did a face plant into the asphalt. Never said a negative word about the old girl again.
@@caimano55 precisely, that’s where I grew up. On the west side by West Mesa High school. I think they built some high school stadiums where I used to go off-roading. Not sure if there’s much open land left there
As a jeep enthusiast that owns a few, including a 59 cj5 restoration project. I can confirm pretty much everything here. The tj that has the 4.0 engine is pretty dang reliable though. But from my years in the community I can 100% say that people that hate on jeep people the most, are other jeep people that don't share the same tastes. It's sad actually...
The 4.0 is an amazing engine. I just got a jeep tj that sat for 10 years and hasn’t been started in like 3 or 4. Started first crank after a little bit, runs great.
My 4.0L jeep XJ is actually indestructible I took it off-roading pretty much stock and it handled it extremely well, we hit one bump so hard the rear dome light came loose and was hanging by the wire but the jeep was fine drove it 110mph back home on the interstate. Oh and not to mention the fact that I was able to driving it 10 miles back to my house after the serpentine belt came completely off. It’s tough, and just won’t quit if the engines on you’ll get where you need to be. And tire comes off don’t worry, cracked radiator, no serpentine belt, it doesn’t matter the thing keeps going. For being 21 years old I’ve never seen anything like it.
I got a jacked up WJ that will slay a wrangler offroad and I can say that JKU and JLU owners think I am a trailer park boy because I did not have to spend 70k to do mild wheeling or to drive around the mall parking lot wearing LL Bean slippers.
You guys are 100% correct, my 2003 TJ, I built and beat on for 17years before it needed true repair. Now with 4.10 gears rear OX and a rebuilt 231 I plan to beat and love it til I'm gone.
There are plenty of Jeeps, especially from the late 90s, that are incredibly reliable. The XJ Cherokees are well known for lasting well over 300k miles. My own ZJ Grand Cherokee with the 5.2 V8 has 215k miles and is still going strong. I've seen plenty of XJs and ZJs and even TJs with over 400k miles.
My family owned 2 90’s Jeeps. Yes they were very reliable. I drove the XJ Cherokee my mom handed me down and I never had any drivetrain problems, just regular maintenances. Unfortunately, I got in a terrible accident and had to total the XJ. Amazingly, no injuries, despite no airbag deployment. That XJ pretty much protected my whole being just by having a sturdy body. Without the accident, I’m sure it would have crossed 200k miles.
It’s hard to kill any 4.0 straight 6. It may use as much oil as it does fuel but it’ll always get you home.LOL I’ve owned a yj tj xj zj all 4.0 and a wj 5.2 overland with the v8ho engine...that thing could scoot from a dead stop and proved to be quite reliable. They were all really reliable and I drove the heck out of them.
@@kolourblind3124 Which is notorious for dropping valve seats. I know because I own one and it happened to me. You really shouldn't compare the 4 straight six to the 4.7 pile of junk. My TJ has 300,000kms on it and ticking smoothly while my WG/WJ had 185,000 when it shat itself and that's not uncommon. Though the WJ/G Overland is much more capable offroad from the factory.
Aside from the leaking oil cooler in my JK, it’s been very reliable. But, if you lift and put big tires on your Jeep, but don’t upgrade the axles and they break, that’s not Jeep’s fault, that’s yours.
I remember seeing jeeps as a kid, and thinking "wow, that is soooo cool!". I also did this with Z28's and other cool 80's cars. Now I have a Jeep Gladiator and absolutely love it. It still makes me feel all giddy like when I was 8 years old.
I have a gladiator aswell, 2021 mojave in sarge green. It's been great I haven't had any of the issues people say these have like wandering on road or bad ride quality I'm thinking maybe it's mostly lower trims having issues.
I really liked the episode. My only detractor is that most of the episode was more covering Jeep like an Up to Speed, and only a small portion by comparison really covered the culture and negative reputation of the Jeep, especially the reliability factor, which only got a blip of attention. I would have loved to have seen more of that expanded upon rather than the two minutes it received. I love the show, keep doing the good work, Nolan and the Wheelhouse team 👍🏻
Perhaps reliability was a problem in older models of wrangler. As it was in all older cars. In the 80's we were always fixing and wrenching. These days I don't see it as a problem. European cars appear to be going the other way.
The reliability "issues" are greatly overblown by folk who honestly can't take care of any car, and have unrealistic expectations that a vehicle is gonna be bulletproof from factory till the day they're ready to lease something eles.... Folk complaining that a brand new model just released has recalls... the nature of which are nothing compared to the recalls the other brands are having.... but "jEePs ArEnT rElIaBlE"
@@MaddJakd bullshit. All but 2 out of over a dozen jeep owners I know have got rid of them. One is a TJ restoration he built himself and the other is a JK 4dr owner who will admit herself that past 60k they become a "labor of love". I'm hoping the JL is turning out to be become different but up till the JK, they've been poorly built heaps. These people honestly loved their Jeeps but damn they couldn't rely on them for shit. They are a weekend beach bitch/ trail vehicle to own, much like how I would never daily used porsche or audi, but am willing to have one as a fun car.
Still driving my mostly-stock ‘13 JKU Sahara it’s a really great vehicle. Had a few issues over the years but most was covered under warrantee, nothing catastrophic. Slow and unathletic on the highway but great around town, useful at hunting camp, and 4WD is really excellent in the snow
My jeep TJ is extremely reliable, never has left me stranded, only broke down once. Started misfiring, pulled over and discovered the coil pack connector came loose somehow, plugged it back in and kept going. Very great vehicle minus the constant battle against rust.
My dad daily drove his YJ Wrangler many years ago. 6 hour commute everyday and some business trip use as well. Still in the garage right now, it still runs and drives to this day. But needs some repair work and dad’s driving a newer truck now. Regardless, his Wrangler never gave him problems. Kept up with maintenance all the time he drove it. Radiator broke once, but that was it. He gave it the love it needed for all those years.
I think the "unreliable" myth comes from other things that don't actually affect reliability. I think people have expectations that their Jeep will be just like other SUVs and CUVs but quickly find out that it is noisy, rides rough, and the top probably leaks somewhere. Those annoying issues cause trips to the dealer and consumer reports complaints, but don't cause the vehicle to be unreliable.
I’ve been driving Jeep’s since 1994. Only owned two over that timeline. A 1990 Cherokee that had 256,00 miles on it when I traded it in on my current 2005 Wrangler LJ. I’ve beaten the heck out of both on the trails. Also daily drivers. I never hesitate to jump in and drive a couple hundred miles to the beach or the mountains. And Jeeps are one of the few remaining vehicles that I know of that can be rebuilt from the ground up instead of being sent to the crusher. I love mine. Always will. ✌️
That’s true only for Wrangler. Everything else is on independent suspension all round. Should have kept solid axles at the back on Grams Cherokee at least (like newest LC)
The new Wranglers are road first trail second, thats why they are so expensive. Long time Wrangler owner here, When they added 2 doors they chose a new path, soccer moms.
When I first saw the the Gladiator. I thought to myself. That thing looks stupid. Granted the one I saw was a Mall Crawler. The Gladiator is slowly growing on me. Even though I’m a Toyota guy through and through.
@@glennaguon5165 bro theres one in my neighborhood thats a rubicon loaded up with overland gear and it looks beautiful. I do think it looks goofy stock though
My only gripe with Jeep is their fuel consumption and handling (not a fan of how the wrangler handles on the road, but they are a BLAST to offroad with). I do enjoy the Cherokees though
Exactly, I love the slander because it offends the people that you’d expect it to, the kind he talked about in the video, and the people that just like jeeps would most likely agree and find it entertaining
I think an equally interesting tale would be tracing how the Jeep formed the basis for all the iconic 4WDs of the postwar years- the Land Rover, the Land Cruiser, Nissan 4W60 Patrol, etc
Thanks Donut. Now I’ll have to see this video posted every day in every single one of the Jeep groups I belong to. As if seeing “what size tire can I run without a lift” every day isn’t annoying enough.
@@highwayman1218 you only get two answers to that question... Some guy who swears he ran 40s on a stock d30 arguing with the guy utterly convinced you need 1 tons to handle 32s.
I love to hate on jeeps as much as the next guy, but last year my mom bought a 2021 jeep wrangler sport. A base model with skinny street tires, roll windows and no lockers as she didn't have the money for a Rubicon. Together we went on many jeep runs and to my surprise, we were able to keep up with built jeeps on some serious terrain on our jamboree in Idaho. She ended up selling the sport later on to get a Rubicon, but to this day I'm blown away by how capable that little jeep was.
@@gahbah274 yeah I am sure about his statement except for one part. The raptors is really only good for desert running. I wouldn't take it down many trails as it's wide.
One of the best things about the Jeep is the resale. Amazing how these things hold their value. Throw $5000 into rims and tires and a quality lift kit and you’re golden.
@@douglasbuck2359 only thing better than a 4runner is a landcruiser. The new ones are cool . But nothing beats an old fj40. Old jeeps are built like toys compared to them. They are tanks.
My dad has a 1980 CJ-7, he bought it new, I always joked with him telling him it’s like my older brother. That Jeep has taken the family to some amazing places and had been through some gnarly things, but it never failed us. Just takes a beating and keeps going. Just a beast.
As a kid living in Chicago I've always wanted a Jeep and everyone I knew always told me all the cons of owning a Jeep. People always criticizing Jeep's questioning why bother owning one in the city. Making me feel bad for wanting one. Years later and after graduating I moved to Texas I bought myself a Jeep JK and LOVE it.
I mean, you can park a two door Jeep anywhere in the city. You can even run over annoying cars or people if they are in the way. Plus Chicago snow can be pretty nasty. :) It has its city uses to.
Rubicon daily driver and freeway, absolutely very good on the road. Just have to be careful of the speed without knowing it. Very little sway but be aware of your speed the Rubicon moves. I’m 5’3 and pretty agile for my age and just steel side sliders to help with getting into the keep, but wouldn’t change it for the world…well maybe a step stool when I’m 80. Love the keep. ;)
As a jeep owner I completely agree, however I believe unreliable part is a misconception. The only bad engine that jeep has used was the 3.8L which was for only 7 years. The 4.0 and 3.6 are great engines and can last a lifetime. Almost any other time there is a issue with a jeep is because the person who did the modifications didn’t spend the extra money to strengthen other components.
I don't think it's the Wrangler so much that gets the unreliability thing. It's everything ELSE they make. The Grand Cherokee. The Compass, the Patriot, the Liberty. THOSE things are piles of shit.
I had a Wrangler Sport. For the entire warranty period it was in the garage at least once if not twice each month. It couldn't be lemoned because none of the service visits were long enough to qualify and the out of service time wasn't enough to qualify. All gauges going dead, rain leaking into the interior through the firewall, new driveshafts every two months until I got sick of taking it back, a horn that wouldn't work when I needed it because yet ANOTHER clock spring went bad, and even more.
I've had a Jeep 2019 for 2 years now and the differential lock failed multiple times and had to replace the front and rear 3 times until I just decided to sell it.
My commander may not see the off road allot,(I’m more of an inside person as I got older). But but, I do be zooming, and that extra gravel road on the side of the highway it’s great for passing slow drivers
I had a 2003 Wrangler X with the 4.0 and that thing would go anywhere on or off road. Whether it was forwarding through water or taking a 4 hour road trip to visit relatives. It was also so much fun flying down gravel roads with that 5 speed manual. If it needed cleaning on the inside you could just take the carpet out and go to town with a pressure washer. It was the ultimate utilitarian vehicle and I wish every single day I still had one.
I had an XJ with the inline 4.0 and it was damn near bulletproof! The only problem is that it wasn't "flip-proof".. so I flipped it 5 times, doing 76 in a 35 zone on some country back roads (young and dumb). Yet when I left the hospital I went out to my mangled Jeep and checked the oil and it started right up!
@@captaincobra4578 "Well over 300k" Nah lol, not "most" of them. Most bodies don't make it that long because abuse but I'm in the rust belt so there's that. 300k is the upper limits for what I would buy and trust as a daily, for anything but a diesel, Toyota, Honda, etc. Definitely not a Jeep. If you want a Jeep, under 200k is ideal.
@@brodyh2895 I mean that’s true… I’m just very picky with what Jeeps I like. Like the YJ and TJ cool and everything (tho I rather have 4-doors to mess around my friends and such). As far as the JK models I hate the ‘07-‘10 MY because the interior looks cheap. Plus they say the 3.8l V6 engines are unreliable. But I’ve driven the JL models (and the Gladiator, if that counts too) and instantly fell in love with them
@@zachsheffee8458 2002 wranglers are exactly the same as 2001 wranglers, they're both TJs. the split as I have witnessed it comes from the split between TJ and JK
I've always hated Jeeps but when you pointed out that the stock one did basically everything the hi low trucks did it really put it in perspective for me lol. Still not a fan of them but alot more respect now.
@@cboysfan128 "Sorry people, but they suck because *personal experience* is bad, that means they suck despite *everyone else's personal experience* hehe"
In terms of reliability, I believe the numbers are off.. There a great number of stock Jeeps with high mileages The issue that seem to plague owners such as the death wobble - are from modified Jeeps. Even some of the engine or mechanical failures get traced to mods - ie bigger tires and lifts on the jk stock gear (3.21) etc
As a mechanic, I disagree. Any chrysler product 99 to present is guaranteed some electrical gremlins. There wouldn't be a company that specifically rebuilds chrysler engine computers if it wasnt a problem. 1 in 20 will have a coil driver or Asd relay failure.
@@ryurc3033 I’d say you’re biased then, then are companies that specialize in any given brand. There’s a mechanic that’s local to me that specializes on Honda and Toyota, but that doesn’t make them unreliable. I’ve had Jeeps in my family since I was a kid, and they’re actually pretty reliable.
@@4477superman nah fiat Chrysler makes subpar vehicles plain and simple. Maybe the older Jeep’s were good but not anymore. Just like Nissan, they definitely are not the Nissan of the 90s. And for the mechanic that only works on Honda and Toyota, they’re only doing that cause they’re easy to work on lol. Takes a special kind of hate for yourself to be a say.. bmw only mechanic lmao. But it’s not biased. Anyone who knows anything about vehicle reliability or if you look the numbers up yourself, Chrysler just make unreliable cars.
The thing I love about my 2 door jk is it's been a tank (11 years owned). I've hauled 6' stone treads, brick, bags of mortar/cement and sand. Reliable and well built.
'97 Wrangler owner here; parts are pretty cheep and it's easy enough to work on it yourself. Which is lucky because the check engine light comes on every two weeks.
Why do jeep owners just accept it normal for shit to break all the time even if it is cheap tho lol. Got 350k miles on the original motor in my Honda with no cel, and nothing goes wrong other than the occasional maintance.
@@dieseldabz7104 that’s not what I bought it for, but I drove a slammed Miata delivering food during a Michigan winter and didn’t get stuck once in snow, so if you really need a jeep for snow than that’s driver error
As a Jeep Comanche owner, what I dislike about the community, where I live at least, is that you'll get left out if you don't have round headlights, a solid front axle and a 7 slot grille. According to them, you don't have a "real Jeep" if you're missing one of those things, even if the original Jeep didn't have a 7 slot grille. Truly knowlegeable owners that appreciate every model are few and far between. And people from the "Jeep community" around here all build their Wranglers the same and all look like kid's toys; angry grilles, wheels that stick out way past the fenders, and some sort of military star or punisher skull for decals...
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when i bought my xj cherokee i got in on some of the forums and learned three things. one, a lot of enthusiasts seem to agree that the last good truly reliable jeeps died with the 4.0 I6 from the 90s. they’re stupid unreliable now but everything from that in-line six and earlier was still rock solid. it’s why i bought one, mine is at almost a quarter million miles and she still has plenty of life left in her. those are the ones you see racking up hundreds of thousands of miles. two, there’s a ton of infighting and gatekeeping in the community. this video touched on it with the pay-to-win jeep jamborees, but even beyond that there are a lot of people who will only consider the wranglers to be “real jeeps” even though there are plenty of equally capable models. go on the jeep subreddit and you’ll see countless arguments over who can receive a jeep wave. a lot of the debate is whether xjs like mine count. third, regardless of opinion on what counts, we all hate the renegade
One thing I've noticed is most if not all XJ owners (now-a-days) are pretty much on the same level of thinking. You can't get one that isn't at least 20 years old and with that comes many problems and issues that most people don't want to deal with. All the people left driving them (me included) are on some level self taught mechanics and don't drive them as a status symbol but because they legitimately love the vehicle for what it is. Now, if you look at the Wrangler market, it's super fragmented with people driving very old CJ's up to brand new Rubicons that cost over $80,000. This seems to be where the main "Jeep thing" debate comes into play. It's similar to that of the "muscle car". You have old cameros and chargers in one corner, than new muscle cars like the Hellcat/Challenger etc.
The 4.0 comes from the 80s. And the 2.5s are super reliable too, afterall that's what the 4.0 was developed from. But yes, those two engines, both from AMC were the best Jeep engines ever.
I drive a 2018 JLU sport s as my every day driver and I love it. Amazing how capable a stock wrangler is off-road. I bought it used with 26,000 miles in March last year and have put 40,000 miles on it in 9 months. No issues at all. I will definitely get another wrangler when the time comes.
I was never a jeep guy but my grandma sold me her old grand cherokee a little over a year ago and as Im driving it more and more I am satrting to realize I really dont want to drive anything else
I am on my second Wrangler and am loving this thing. Had is since June, it's a PHEV Wrangler Rubicon 4x5. 375hp/475tq and have averaged right around 37mpg because we do lots of sub 20 mile drives each day and charge in between. The kids and dog love it in the summer when we can take the top off and cruise around. I offroad occasionally and the 4xe has a great full time AWD system. I had one recall since owning it, otherwise no issues. My previous Jeep had one issue the entire time I owned it (faulty AC compressor that was fixed under warranty). I know they get knocked for reliability but I haven't had any big issues yet.
@@alleninda912 unless it’s the new Bronco.. My buddy picked his up in September and it’s been into the dealer 3 times and they’ve had it for over 4 weeks now for the latest issue. I usually trade/sell my cars before 100K miles so I don’t have navy concerns with Wrangler.
I will always remember my mother's jeep. While the thing spent many winters on the road, it saw a lot of hunting seasons. A lot of trails were explored, a lot of memories were made! It's definitely showing its age now, though.
As a mail carrier, I can say that from what I've seen, Jeeps are some of the most hit or miss vehicles out there. Some will go 300k+ miles with little issue, just standard maintenance and a minor repair here and there, then some will just decide "Hey, I just rolled over 100k, better put my tranny out of commision." To be fair, being a rural mail route vehicle will be hard on any vehicle, no matter what, and I understand why Jeep Wranglers are so popular, between being the only car manufacturer in America that makes factory RHD vehicles, as well as their offroad capabilities, giving them the edge to get up rough driveways and down bad roads in the worst conditions. I still think, with the recent surge in Amazon, they're really not big enough to carry a full route in an office as overburdened as the one I work in, but I won't deny that people can take their Jeeps in places my Toyota Sienna can't go.
Thanks for your service. My dad was a mail carrier and he used to sneak me into his jeep. Then they switched to those god awful ugly square van things.
as a kid years ago I was told that it was because of the abundance of jeeps left here in the Philippines after the war is why we have a kind of unique vehicle for public transportation. instead of having lots of buses we have elongated jeeps designed to carry lots of passengers from one place to another. although some aren't original willy's jeep, the ones built after the war were made in their image. also some have mercedes badges for the reason that mercedes is affiliated with wealth.
my outback has probably seen more mud and snow than most jeeps, but that being said, I have come across jeeps on heavily destroyed bush road that even my work quad couldn't go down
I'd venture to say if you drive a Subaru, your penis has probably seen more "mud" than most Jeeps and destroyed many a bushes....straight bogging that mf'er. Save some for everyone else.
I had a two door JL and now I have a JT. Both are manual and both my favorite vehicles I’ve ever owned. Those who like Jeeps (Wranglers) find them to be an extremely charming vehicle with an amazing community behind it.
I love my Jeep TJ, it’s built and looks good, never really get too much hate on it, sometimes I get the occasional you should diesel swap it. And who knows, might just do it.
You have the 4.0 in-line 6? If so that motor is super sought after! Keep it! I ran my so called “unreliable” TJ to 245k miles on 33s then 35s without a single break down. Just maintaining and modding.
@@CoryMp3 yeah 4.0 with a 5 speed also on 33’s and now 35’s and all I’ve done is a clutch with plenty of playing in the swamp and mud. Nothing can stop a Jeep with the inline 6.
I just factory ordered a Jeep because I wanted a 4x4 with manual transmission, & i'm a MoPar guy. Who else has a 4x4 with manual transmission (and straight front axle)? And being a MoPar guy, I guess I really don't care. L.O.L.
You just have to be an adventurous type, and know how to spot and tread carefully or even avoid the ones that just want it for the superficial stuff. Personally I don't mind them types, especially if they're actual car folk. That's seriously one of the big draws to the brand. Aftermarket out the wazoo! If you wanna build a tank, you got it! If you want to make a SEMA build, you got it! If you wanna be somwhere in the middle, no problem. Parts galore, and 100% someone else has documented working with it all.
@@MaddJakd Asides from a few, most Jeep owners can be generally put into 3 groups: Mid-life crisis dad, teen girl, and fanboy. Fanboys are by the far the worst for the same reasons people can’t stand for JDM fanboys. Mid-life crisis dads and teen girls I can give the benefit of the doubt. For dads, although most are pavement queens with g-fuels etc., I do respect the ones who waited to buy it when they’re middle aged because that’s when they can actually afford one. I respect any goal to an extent you work for. 99.9% of Teen girls had they’re jeep bought by their parents but that’s not always a bad thing. I have a friend who’s parents bought her a Toyota FJ. She doesn’t know a whole lot about cars or any of the car community whether that be jeep, fj, muscle, jdm, etc. She doesn’t act snobbish about it however and she wants to know more not just about her FJ but all of the car community. Idc if you don’t know. If you respect car culture and furthermore want to know about it, then I have a massive respect for you. Jeeps are ridiculously fun and you are right and that you can do a lot with them. But sometimes the fan base can really get in the way.
As a jeep owner, yes. Constantly getting judged by “jeeple” about how my tires are smaller, how my lift isn’t as high. Then again, I get slandered a lot more by truck and car guys than jeep guys tho
In addition to the CJ/wrangler line they also made super capable SUVs in 90s and early 00s. My bone stock 04 grand Cherokee with its solid axles routinely out performs modern SUVs in snow, ice, and trails. (Not so much in mpg though).
RIP uncle jerry, I have fond memories with him. We once visited a coffee shop in amsterdam. Needless to say, they didn't have any coffee but Jerry's glaucoma was much better for the rest of the trip. He was a polite man, always tipping his servers even when they were serving tables other than his own. He had a great scalp. Actually the greatest scalp I've ever seen. He was a scalp model part time. Love you Jer.
My family has had more laughs and memories in our Jeep then you could have with 3-4 different vehicles. We have ours for memories and enjoyment for all. Nothing more than shaking with excitement after you go over things on a trail.
I think a lot of it comes from how popular they are. When a brand is very popular with lots of buyers, there will be divides. I have my TJ for driving to the forrest with my dog and to remote target ranges mostly. Between the offroads use and mods Jeeps see, its surprising there isnt more issues with them really. And the only issues I have had is stupid stuff that cost nothing to fix and is expected on any vehicle that is more than 20 years old.
20 year Jeep owner and I abuse the crap out of them… I have not had any of these reliability issues I keep hearing about. In those 20 years, I have only had maybe 1.5 weeks total where my Jeep was in the shop. The ones I see broken are usually lifted and poorly built. Based on what I do to mine, they are ridiculously reliable vehicles. Great video tho!
How about them dana 35 rear axles. Or 80s yj pugeot transmissions. Overall the wranglers are built well but are often compared to toyotas of the 80s and 90s wich were better built because they’re such a large company with a global market demanding more of a industrial work vehicle also its toyota. But toyota people r the worst people. Lol
I put my jeep trough hell and have not had a problem yet... the paint scratches a little to easy when rubbing up on trees but I can buff those out later.
@@uncleartax Dana 35s definitely weren’t the best for anything bigger than a 35 in tire. But for the most part they were ok. I’d still take a 80s or 90s jeep with having simple solid axles, and not dealing with ifs on the late 80s and 90s yota. Plus if you get a 4.0 it makes more power than a 22re and will still last really long.
Well it’s like I had an Xbox 360. It never had the red ring of death. That being said everyone else I know has the issue. I’ve had 3 friends with Jeeps. One of them had a leak on the roof that could never be fixed, not to mentioned messed up electronics after going through flood water that was well below the wading depth.
Jeep told me that a brand-new engine burning 2 quarts of oil between oil changes was considered "standard operation." This was in the early 2000s. I guess we all have different standards for our money.
I bought a 92 Cherokee with like 250K miles, and the thing is still a champ. I've thrown on new shocks, leaf springs, injectors, control arms, and brakes - and a new speedometer because the old one died 🤣. Thing still runs like a champ, is surprisingly doing well on gas mileage, and does everything I need it to. I love these things, and yeah, they've got quirks (glares at heat waves rising off the hood,) but with a minimum of automotive knowledge, basic tools, and care, they last. Unless it's a Jeep Liberty.
I love that every time the winter comes my dad says that a Jeep would be good but what he doesn't understand is that there are plenty of good offroad cars. That just proves the point of how good of a reputation Jeeps have. And I live in Europe so no American genes too. Also congrats on 6 mln.
I've loved Jeeps ever since seeing one in the TV show Mork and Mindy, when I was a kid in the 80's. I have a 97 TJ and my son has a 2001 Cherokee. We "argue" over which one is better, but we both love Jeeps
The one thing I cannot stand about jeep owners are the unnecessary usage of extreme LED lights on general highways. I mean seriously, driving by one of those things on a rainy night is blinding. It's bad enough that their headlights are raised in a position where it looks like they are brights are always on.
I just bought my first Jeep. I have been a VW fanboy my whole life so buying a Jeep was a leap. So far I love it and can't wait to take the top and doors off. I still own 3 VWs and will always love them but I get the "Jeep thing".
Hope you get the top and doors off soon! It’s really really fun. It changes the game. I deal with getting 9mpgs and blown around on the freeway for the days I have my top and doors off.
Congrats bro! Trust me, taking the top down on a hot, summer day with your girlfriend riding shotgun have brought about some of my favorite memories over these last few years I’ve owned mine.
A coworker of mine has a Jeep and we always make fun of him for two reasons: 1) He ALWAYS talks about it (and he can ramble on for hours), and 2) because it is indeed unreliable (he's had to take it into the shop multiple times in the last few months, mainly for tie rod issues, transfer case replacement, rear main seal leaks, etc). One thing I will give him though is that he's dedicated to driving and taking care of it
I’ve got a bone-stock ‘15 JKU Rubicon. It’s hot in the summer, It’s loud with the hard top, louder with the soft top, twitchy, gets crappy mileage, and fourth gear grinds every single time. It’s the greatest vehicle ever.
Great video. I fell for the TJ when I figured out that it exists for one reason and one reason only: Fun. I love that you can take the top, and doors off and fold down the windshield. Safety goes entirely out the window and that adds to the fun factor. Other selling points? It's idiot proof to maintain, and the 4.0L is bulletproof. I also like that it has a proper 5 speed manual transmission and a manually shifted transfer case. I love the idea that I genuinely have to drive it and cannot depend on the non-existent safety and comfort features. It's as if someone read my mind and built a car just for the way the mechanical part of my mind works. I'll keep my Volvo for safety and my Jeep for fun.
Exactly. I own a WG overland (WJ but built in Austria) and it is WAY more capable off the shelf with front and rear lockers from factory with Quadra Drive II so I see both sides. I bought a TJ for exactly what you said - fun - to make it as capable as the WG grand I'd have to spend at least 5 grand but I don't care about that. I don't care bouncing around and I don't care about off the shelf performance. It's just a fun little short wheel base that I leave the top off 90% of the year (I live in a true Mediterranean climate, unlike LA's try hard effort - Think Phoenix but on the beach). But my daily driver is a Mazda 6 Sport *ducks and runs for cover*
I love my 04 unlimited. Lots of mods, tasteful but purposeful, and it actually is the stock ride height and sitting on 15x31s. I daily it with a bikini top and half doors and there's nothing better. I've had Porsche, Lotus, BMW, Jaguar, Smart, to name a few, everything from 3 to 12 cylinders, and this is the most rewarding (and by far the most capable). It's low-brow fun, it's basic, Lego-style diy, it's a big dumb tractor, and I love it!
I started out buying a jeep for the look it had, 99 jeep tj. Then started off roading and started upgrading stock parts for trail/rock crawling. Went through some hard times and couldn't really afford the jeep and barely managed to financially keep the "GreenHog". Fast forward several more years and I completely removed my jeep off the frame and almost completely rebuilt the thing. I still offroad but the jeep is truly a lifestyle and fixing it is happily apart of that.
I have taken my Jeep offroad maybe a handful of times just to see what it was like. Since then, it's mostly a pavement princess, and most of my mods are purely for the aesthetic. It lives up to all the memes. But honestly...I don't care. I never understood why people liked driving before I got a Jeep, and it brings me so much joy I really don't care what people think of it, it's mine. It leaks, it makes funny noises, it's terrible on gas and I love it XD
My family has owned Jeeps since the 50s and we still own our grandpa’s 48 CJ2A and I even learned how to drive in it. We’re also currently fixing up a Jeep for me a, 46 CJ2A and we’re gonna put a Dauntless V6 in it.
I grew up in Montana and Utah and we used Jeeps all the time in some of the roughest terrain in the West, both the known places that people think of off the top of their head (Moab, etc.), but also brutal unknown places (my dad was a geologist/chemist so we'd be out surveying). At 15 I restored a 1955 Willy's Wagon for my first car (my second was a restored 1962 Lincoln Continental, an absolute boat of a car). We had a Cherokee with ARB lockers and a host of other mods, which was an absolute goat in red rock country and was a wonderful rig (when we didn't get vapor lock or my brother wasn't accidentally lifting the rear axle a few feet off the ground coming down a steep red-rock section). We'd leave school when we didn't have class and go up into the Wasatch and explore muddy trails. But, all of that said, we also had bone stock 1990s Subaru legacy. When we'd go out into some of the remotest territory in Montana and Utah, we never once got stock whether in red rock, sand, mud, or snow. And we'd go out with guys that had decent Wranglers who sometimes needed to winch out, which is when I realized that a lot of it is simply driver skill and planning (and an understanding of terrain). My dad was like rain man with that Subaru. It still makes me laugh. Disclaimer: although that Subaru was a beast, I absolutely hated going out in it since I always assumes we'd get stuck (ye of little faith"). It simply never happened, yet it left all the other geologists in their wranglers and other rigs aghast, just backslapping my dad after navigating brutal sections of San Rafel Swell. I now live in Spain so four wheeling is just not the same. There's no similar property as BLM land so anyone with a Jeep tends to be weirdo with giant tires and and snorkel (spoiler: there's nowhere anywhere near Madrid anyone would ever need a snorkel on their Jeep). I don't mind it though. I wish I had one, even if I couldn't use it for its true purpose. Because, deep down, they're cool cars and, who knows, maybe in a past life they used to crawl out of canyons just like me. To each their own. Life isn't a zero sum game.
I think jeeps are pretty reliable though. I dont have a lot of experience with the new ones but my family has had a ton of jeeps up to the 2000s models, probably around 40-50. They've always been pretty reliable until you start heavily modifying them, and when you're doing that, its usually to take them off road where you are always going to break something. It's only a matter of time. I have a 97 xj that had an engine make it to 350,000 miles. I put a new engine in it but the one with 350k was still running, just pretty tired.
Jeep makes amazing vehicles overall and i love the company and their products. The only thing i cant stand are the people who drove them. Especially the people who feel the need to park diagonally taking up 2-3 spots, and the people who prowl the parking lot for that pile of snow to park over in the winter
Another part of the popularity of the Wrangler/CJ... the ability to drive over almost any snowbank the plows left at the end of your driveway in the winter and take the top off for the summer. Despite most never going off road, in the snow belt they're a great daily driver for bad conditions and when the summer arrives and the sun's out the top can come off and let the sunshine in.
I've got an XJ 4.0, a WJ 4.7, both on 6 inch lifts and 33 inch tires. I love 'em both, but I won't spring for a Wrangler. For days when I want the top down, I have a V6 5 speed 4x4 Nissan Pathfinder with the roof cut off. I also love my Sawzall.
I love to make fun of jeep owners, I have a wrangler, and jeep ppl have given me two ducks 😂 But the community is one of the nicest group I have encountered. Especially out on the trails. Everyone is there to help each other.
Been lucky to have been ducked like 5-6 times! Always fun to then turn around and duck the next cool Jeep I see! Plus the wave. I get the hate, some of us suck. But the community is cool.
As a Rubicon owner, I love it. It's practical for every day drive and I know when the blizzard hits my Jeep is so capable I can literally drive it on the snow with out having to put 4X4 on. I've rolled past stuck FWD Corollas with my Jeep on RWD and ESP off.
@@rafa.t Yep, as someone whose lived in snow area for 30 yrs, RWD vehicles are normally very bad for icy conditions. My Jeep in RWD easily getting through places a FWD can't is pretty impressive. Even knowing I can just turn on 4X4 and make it a complete non-issue is awesome
@@garettodd3037 lol, you don't know shit about jeeps if you think the rubicon is just a trim package. It's more than enough offroading than 99.9% of drivers will ever need or use.
I think like most things on the road they've gotten too big. Would love to see something Renegade sized but with more Wrangler characteristics. Not sure how Jeep is going to handle the switch-over to electric, I wouldn't imagine the popular skateboard chassis design lends itself very well to dealing with sharp pointy rocks scraping the underside of the vehicle.
My friend just got a true Jeep (except it’s an automatic transmission). It’s a 2017, base trim package with manual windows, steel wheels, 4WD, V6, rubber/plastic interior, and a soft top. Super cool!
In india jeep has similar story. Jeep had an alliance with an indian automaker and both provided jeeps to the military and slowly the consumer market. The result: today both companies offer the jeep or jeep like products and we love the jeep name 📛
Love the Godevil 4 and especially the F-head. A M38A was my daily driver, replacing a 72 Commando with the I6 and a YJ I4. The M is definitely the US sport car of the early 50s. The Commando had the smoothest leaf springs ever. All were very reliable off-roaders. The F-head had instant torque from idle. The I6 sounded like a boat.
Fun video. Didn't know some of the history. I took my bone stock jeep through the Hot Springs Offroad Park and earned two Jeep Badges of Honor for the Snake and Rubicon Ridge trails. All I did was put offroad tires on. Not a scratch. Made it through the rock crawls. People would be amazed what a stock Jeep can do.
I'm born and raised in Butler Pennsylvania the first factory of the Jeep. As the home town of the Jeep we hold Jeep fest with thousands of Jeeps for a week festival every year. We shut down the town and all of the town supports it. We've had Jeeps from Europe Australia South America and from every where else you can think of. I live maybe 5 miles from the original factory. As I'm on my porch having a smoke there's a Jeep in the parking lot of my local shop.
I loved the cherokees. 97-01. Definitely in the garage wrenching lots,but 4 inch lift and everything else stock. They've taken me to some really cool backcountry places. Still rolling one for my back country rips.
I heard a very true quote from my friend once, “it isn’t the Jeep that people hate, but the people who drive those Jeep’s”
Same can be said about people that drive , “bmw , Subaru, Toyota, Nissan, Volkswagen, Porsche, Lamborghini, ford , dodge , Chevy” basically any make of vehicles.
@@joshuafarmer5438 jeeps and beamers prolly the worst tho
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@@joshuafarmer5438 I wonder how insufferable I must be since I own both of them
Fun fact. In Russia, Ukraine and other post soviet countries, the name Jeep is so ubiquitous that many people would call any SUV a Jeep (or "Джип").
Same here in Indonesia
Same in Arabia
And in some parts of Latin America
@@tebetmania gak pernah nemu orang nyebut Fortuner atau Pajero jip.
ето правда
This one is easy for me. I like old BMWs. I am not a "BMW guy," nor do I drive like one. I do, however, know why BMW driver's get so much hate. The Jeep community is much the same. A significant portion of the community are insufferable snobs who think that Jeep is the only name in town.
100% relate. I don't drive an old bmw because it's an expensive accessory. I drive it because it's a fun piece of history.
definitely. i call current day jeeps, fiat jeeps.
I’m a Jeep and bmw guy 😂 it’s tough sometimes
Not the only "name in town", just the best one. ;)
@@angelina9617 your weird now
"Because I like it." Is a totally valid and respectable response to the question "Why do you have a Jeep?". Some people just think Jeeps are neat, and that's ok. 👍
Exactly. Why would I spend my hard earned money on a car I don’t like. I don’t care how reliable a Honda civic is. It’s boring and looks ugly. I love my Jeep especially since I can take it anywhere. Many a time has the road near me been at a complete standstill and I just drive in the ditch next to the road while angry Tesla drivers cuss me out cause I don’t have to wait. It’s great!
@@jobnieloliva5358 I used to own a YJ Wrangler and the ditch exit thing really is fun 😂 It's not my fault their Prius has no suspension travel 💁
Thank you!
I'm married to a jeep girl.
@@K1ng1995I turned my wife into a jeep girl she stole one of my TJs lol
Jerry’s death has come to a shock to us all. He was so healthy. Hard to hear of someone dying due to hair loss
@@katie172 get out
Actually, last time uncle Jerry made an appearance, he fell from a really high place. I think that's the real reason for his death
@@sely8005 get out
@@YaBrotherJay no 😭😭
@@ChrisBl33p it’s a bot.
Fun fact,
here in Portugal, the name Jeep, for decades have been used to describe a 4x4. As a kid you learn that those tall boxy 4x4 vehicles, regardless of their brand, are called Jeep :) and once you watch Dakar, and learn about those Nissan "jeeps", it can get pretty confusing when you then finally see for the very first time an actual Jeep😂
"hey man i bought a jeep"
"oh cool man, but is it jeep jeep or?"
edit: i had no idea it was the case in so many other countries which is cool :)
Same here in Bosnia. Well, the whole of former Yugoslavia actually.
Belgium too
Interesting to know that guys, genuinely thought it was a thing ours haha
Same in Brazil bud
Same thing in the indian subcontinent area, every suv-ish looking thing is a jeep
I’m actually a Jeep salesman. Part of our training for selling a wrangler is identifying if our customer is what we call a “dreamer” or a “doer”. Yes those are technical terms from our FCA Jeep training. We are trained to ask questions to figure out if our customer is someone who wants a Jeep because they look cool and they want to drive it around and show it off, or if they are someone who needs extreme off-road performance and capability. Usually a “doer” is someone who would need locking front and rear diffs and a disconnecting front sway-bar offered in the rubicon trim level, while a “dreamer” would like a Sahara with its leather seats, heated seats, more comfortable suspension, and premium audio. We tailer how we present our product based on how we think our customer would use the Jeep.
What happens when they're a dreamer and a doer? I think my Jeep looks awesome, but I also regularly put her through her paces in some rough country.
@@xTwisteDx then your just a doer.
@@xTwisteDx then you get the rubicon with all thr goodies.
@@juanzavala4469 I want the 392 so darned bad. Too bad they don't have a Gladiator 392. They should call it the "Spartan"
My main complaint with Jeeps (specifically the Wrangler and Gladiator) is the build quality. Ordered a Gladiator Rubicon and was so excited when it came in, looked at it and saw it already had rust on the swaybar, scratches, and general paint imperfections like paint cratering. When I tried to address the issues the salesman just said "its a Jeep thing." Like wtf, how could they possibly fuck up painting mostly flat surfaces and get this to rust within a month of being built to delivery. My disappointment was immeasurable, so I walked from the order, went down the street, and ordered a Bronco.
And I understand that once I wheel the vehicle it will incur rust and scratches over time, but if I'm paying $72k for a a vehicle, it better be built correctly from the factory. That being said, I do love the Gladiator, I just hate the incompetent buffoons that make them.
I love my Jeep TJ and always will. But something you gotta keep in mind when owning a Jeep is that you have to enjoy the weather no matter the weather. Those tops while they work aren't the best. Especially with a soft top and half doors you'll be enjoying the weather a lot.
That really depends on which Jeep you're driving. My first Jeep was a '56 Willys Overland. It was almost 40 years old, but could sill pull the jacked up Fords and Chevys out of the deep Wyoming snow drifts. That one was very cold in the winter though. The next one was a Wrangler TJ. It had a soft top, but the heater rocked! Not that I really needed it much in the Florida sand, but riding with the top down was awesome, if a bit loud. Now I've stepped up to the Cherokee Trailhawk Elite. Here in Missouri we get extreme heat in the summer, slick ice in the winter, and flooding in the spring and none of it will stop me from getting to work (I'm critical staff and a first responder, so getting there is extremely important), and I get there with every comfort imaginable. Tire and wind noise can't touch the 9 speaker alpine stereo, and my fingers never get cold on the heated leather wheel. :D
i’ve been a jeep owner for almost 20 years and i have to say - even though i may not love everything about jeep culture, i do still love the wrangler.
Same can be said for VWs. I've owned a 1996 Corolla followed by a 2002 Golf 2.Sl0w, a Jetta i5, and now a Passt 2.0T. All brand loyalty cars, all with their own quirks, but all ran solid enough not to fuck me over until I could afford something new.
Yee haw
I used to love wranglers then I got a 96 Cherokee and I’m never going back
@@DwightDMPaperCompany same. i had a 95 wrangler, i loved it, but ive had 4 cherokee's and i like them much more.
Culture 😂
I've always been a sports car guy, but I recently got an RC crawler and I totally see why people would want to crawl a vehicle over stuff. I just spent over an hour driving a 10" long car over some amazon boxes. If you have a Jeep and haven't taken it off road at all, you're really missing out.
Missing out on expensive repair costs
What crawler did you get?
In Brazil as well
Missing out on what? Smashing other dudes in the woods? That what Fiat, I mean Jeep owners do 😉
Rc crawlers are the shit! RC’s in general are awesome but it’s an expensive hobby to get into
Jeeps aren't for everyone. They're rough riding, can be loud (depending on the top), their gas mileage isn't great. But for the outdoorsy type that don't mind those things, they embrace a spirit that just cant be replicated. I'm sure motorcycle riders can relate.
Funny, my buddy who loves riding motorbikes traded his Corolla for a Cherokee last year. He loves it besides the gas mileage.
Now if only we could convince the company themselves that they aren't a luxury brand and they should really stick to what made them great.
@@donywahlberg I love riding motorcycles and I did the same thing. Sold my 9th gen Si and bought a Jeep XJ then eventually sold that for a Toyota FJ. There's just something about how raw these types of vehicles are. I do miss that Civic MPG though.
@@BionicBurke PREACH BROTHA! They need to offer stripped down, no frills chariots like they used to! Even if they're 4 cylinders! The 4 bangers of today make more power than the V-8 CJs back in the day.
@@BionicBurke You don't think the two-door Wrangler is part of their past?
I had a Dodge Dakota with Jeep 4 cylinder engine in it. I was able to drive 3 towns over to let my step brother work on it at his shop with only 1 cylinder of the 4 firing at 30 mph. That I felt was mighty impressive ruggedness for an engine
The 2.5 is a tough little 4 banger. Absolutely love them.
I had a ‘96 Cherokee in high school and I loved it! It had its quirks like the death wobble, not cranking occasionally, the fuel pump would starve at 1/4 tank going through a turn, etc. But I had tons of fun driving out to bonfires in the desert, exploring the petroglyphs, and even taking off-road short cuts going to work to cut around all the rush hour idiots coming home. That car had no business being as reliable and fun as it was with how I treated it, but it never gave up and never left me stranded
Lmao!! The fuel pump starving on a turn! Buddy of mine had the same problem with his. He called it “hybrid mode”. He got so used to it he would seamlessly pop the clutch to restart it.
I used to talk trash about it. Then one day I was climbing out of the back seat (it was a two door) and the seat belt reached out and twisted around my ankle! I swear it did! I did a face plant into the asphalt. Never said a negative word about the old girl again.
Nice
Abq petroglyphs?
@@caimano55 precisely, that’s where I grew up. On the west side by West Mesa High school. I think they built some high school stadiums where I used to go off-roading. Not sure if there’s much open land left there
RIP Jerry, thanks for bringing a smile to us all. Prayers to everyone at donut 🙏🏻😢
I skipped the ad and this comment scared the shit out of me
@@tiller4262 Sorry to break the news 😬😭
How can you skip the ad? It’s the best part for me 😂
Cause it’s a fuckin ad and I don’t like companies pressuring me to buy their crap
@@adamhoisington9761 fr
As a jeep enthusiast that owns a few, including a 59 cj5 restoration project. I can confirm pretty much everything here. The tj that has the 4.0 engine is pretty dang reliable though. But from my years in the community I can 100% say that people that hate on jeep people the most, are other jeep people that don't share the same tastes. It's sad actually...
seconding the 4.0, it’s in my xj and it’s super solid. and you’re totally right the amount of infighting in the jeep community is wild
The 4.0 is an amazing engine. I just got a jeep tj that sat for 10 years and hasn’t been started in like 3 or 4. Started first crank after a little bit, runs great.
My 4.0L jeep XJ is actually indestructible I took it off-roading pretty much stock and it handled it extremely well, we hit one bump so hard the rear dome light came loose and was hanging by the wire but the jeep was fine drove it 110mph back home on the interstate. Oh and not to mention the fact that I was able to driving it 10 miles back to my house after the serpentine belt came completely off. It’s tough, and just won’t quit if the engines on you’ll get where you need to be. And tire comes off don’t worry, cracked radiator, no serpentine belt, it doesn’t matter the thing keeps going. For being 21 years old I’ve never seen anything like it.
I got a jacked up WJ that will slay a wrangler offroad and I can say that JKU and JLU owners think I am a trailer park boy because I did not have to spend 70k to do mild wheeling or to drive around the mall parking lot wearing LL Bean slippers.
You guys are 100% correct, my 2003 TJ, I built and beat on for 17years before it needed true repair. Now with 4.10 gears rear OX and a rebuilt 231 I plan to beat and love it til I'm gone.
There are plenty of Jeeps, especially from the late 90s, that are incredibly reliable. The XJ Cherokees are well known for lasting well over 300k miles. My own ZJ Grand Cherokee with the 5.2 V8 has 215k miles and is still going strong. I've seen plenty of XJs and ZJs and even TJs with over 400k miles.
My family owned 2 90’s Jeeps. Yes they were very reliable. I drove the XJ Cherokee my mom handed me down and I never had any drivetrain problems, just regular maintenances. Unfortunately, I got in a terrible accident and had to total the XJ. Amazingly, no injuries, despite no airbag deployment. That XJ pretty much protected my whole being just by having a sturdy body. Without the accident, I’m sure it would have crossed 200k miles.
It’s hard to kill any 4.0 straight 6. It may use as much oil as it does fuel but it’ll always get you home.LOL I’ve owned a yj tj xj zj all 4.0 and a wj 5.2 overland with the v8ho engine...that thing could scoot from a dead stop and proved to be quite reliable. They were all really reliable and I drove the heck out of them.
@@kolourblind3124 The WJ never had the 5.2. That was only available in the ZJ.
Unless somebody spent a lot of time and money doing an engine swap.
@@KurNorock no your right...I think I’ve owned too many cars. It was the 4.7HO
@@kolourblind3124 Which is notorious for dropping valve seats. I know because I own one and it happened to me. You really shouldn't compare the 4 straight six to the 4.7 pile of junk. My TJ has 300,000kms on it and ticking smoothly while my WG/WJ had 185,000 when it shat itself and that's not uncommon. Though the WJ/G Overland is much more capable offroad from the factory.
Aside from the leaking oil cooler in my JK, it’s been very reliable.
But, if you lift and put big tires on your Jeep, but don’t upgrade the axles and they break, that’s not Jeep’s fault, that’s yours.
I remember seeing jeeps as a kid, and thinking "wow, that is soooo cool!". I also did this with Z28's and other cool 80's cars. Now I have a Jeep Gladiator and absolutely love it. It still makes me feel all giddy like when I was 8 years old.
I have a gladiator aswell, 2021 mojave in sarge green. It's been great I haven't had any of the issues people say these have like wandering on road or bad ride quality I'm thinking maybe it's mostly lower trims having issues.
@@Miguelmedina22 i have a 21 base sport gladiator no issues so far. sting grey on 35's
@@Miguelmedina22 sarge green Mojave here too. I love this thing.
@@Miguelmedina22 oh nice what scale is it like a small one or like ur chest size I have both
@@AtlanticCrasher 1:1
I really liked the episode. My only detractor is that most of the episode was more covering Jeep like an Up to Speed, and only a small portion by comparison really covered the culture and negative reputation of the Jeep, especially the reliability factor, which only got a blip of attention. I would have loved to have seen more of that expanded upon rather than the two minutes it received.
I love the show, keep doing the good work, Nolan and the Wheelhouse team 👍🏻
Perhaps reliability was a problem in older models of wrangler. As it was in all older cars. In the 80's we were always fixing and wrenching. These days I don't see it as a problem. European cars appear to be going the other way.
The reliability "issues" are greatly overblown by folk who honestly can't take care of any car, and have unrealistic expectations that a vehicle is gonna be bulletproof from factory till the day they're ready to lease something eles....
Folk complaining that a brand new model just released has recalls... the nature of which are nothing compared to the recalls the other brands are having.... but "jEePs ArEnT rElIaBlE"
@@MaddJakd found the jeep guy.
@@ResolutionSeven I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Jeeps are made by FIAT only the worst car company on the entire planet.
@@MaddJakd bullshit. All but 2 out of over a dozen jeep owners I know have got rid of them. One is a TJ restoration he built himself and the other is a JK 4dr owner who will admit herself that past 60k they become a "labor of love".
I'm hoping the JL is turning out to be become different but up till the JK, they've been poorly built heaps. These people honestly loved their Jeeps but damn they couldn't rely on them for shit.
They are a weekend beach bitch/ trail vehicle to own, much like how I would never daily used porsche or audi, but am willing to have one as a fun car.
Still driving my mostly-stock ‘13 JKU Sahara it’s a really great vehicle. Had a few issues over the years but most was covered under warrantee, nothing catastrophic. Slow and unathletic on the highway but great around town, useful at hunting camp, and 4WD is really excellent in the snow
As a jeep owner, this is amazing. Keep putting out the memes because they make my day
And you know they are 100% spot on and correct
Oh hey Zach 👋 🤣🤣🤣🤣
✌🏼hi fellow Jeeper
@@dieseldabz7104 not really lol
My jeep TJ is extremely reliable, never has left me stranded, only broke down once. Started misfiring, pulled over and discovered the coil pack connector came loose somehow, plugged it back in and kept going. Very great vehicle minus the constant battle against rust.
Hell yes, love my tj, see you on the trails my friend!
My dad daily drove his YJ Wrangler many years ago. 6 hour commute everyday and some business trip use as well. Still in the garage right now, it still runs and drives to this day. But needs some repair work and dad’s driving a newer truck now. Regardless, his Wrangler never gave him problems. Kept up with maintenance all the time he drove it. Radiator broke once, but that was it. He gave it the love it needed for all those years.
I think the "unreliable" myth comes from other things that don't actually affect reliability. I think people have expectations that their Jeep will be just like other SUVs and CUVs but quickly find out that it is noisy, rides rough, and the top probably leaks somewhere. Those annoying issues cause trips to the dealer and consumer reports complaints, but don't cause the vehicle to be unreliable.
@@nowiecoche 6 hour commute? your daddy gotta be lying to you about something, because no way in hellll.
Just rust proof it. Set it and forget it. Use krown or fluid film
Must say Jeep groups have been the most helpful and the forums the most comprehensive that I’ve been a part of.
I’ve been driving Jeep’s since 1994. Only owned two over that timeline. A 1990 Cherokee that had 256,00 miles on it when I traded it in on my current 2005 Wrangler LJ. I’ve beaten the heck out of both on the trails. Also daily drivers. I never hesitate to jump in and drive a couple hundred miles to the beach or the mountains. And Jeeps are one of the few remaining vehicles that I know of that can be rebuilt from the ground up instead of being sent to the crusher. I love mine. Always will. ✌️
For all those complaining that the jeep doesn't do well on the road. It's one vehicle that has stayed to its roots of being an off road vehicle first.
That’s true only for Wrangler. Everything else is on independent suspension all round. Should have kept solid axles at the back on Grams Cherokee at least (like newest LC)
The new Wranglers are road first trail second, thats why they are so expensive. Long time Wrangler owner here, When they added 2 doors they chose a new path, soccer moms.
Shouldnt have buy a jeep if you dont want to go off road
@@Kapitan_Kloss I was at a grocery store on an Indian reservation once and bought bulk oatmeal in grams Cherokee
Jeep Patriot... Try off roading with that hunk o junk. No balled wge 4 banger.
That last statement about their producer’s jeep is why I ended up with a Jeep Gladiator. Love that little thing.
Little? Are you joking 😂😂
When I first saw the the Gladiator. I thought to myself. That thing looks stupid. Granted the one I saw was a Mall Crawler. The Gladiator is slowly growing on me. Even though I’m a Toyota guy through and through.
@@glennaguon5165 Just SAS the Toyota lol.
@@glennaguon5165 bro theres one in my neighborhood thats a rubicon loaded up with overland gear and it looks beautiful. I do think it looks goofy stock though
My only gripe with Jeep is their fuel consumption and handling (not a fan of how the wrangler handles on the road, but they are a BLAST to offroad with). I do enjoy the Cherokees though
as someone who drives a jeep i 100% agree with the “jeep people slander”
Exactly, I love the slander because it offends the people that you’d expect it to, the kind he talked about in the video, and the people that just like jeeps would most likely agree and find it entertaining
I think an equally interesting tale would be tracing how the Jeep formed the basis for all the iconic 4WDs of the postwar years- the Land Rover, the Land Cruiser, Nissan 4W60 Patrol, etc
IMITATORS.. Land Cruisers at first were marketed as Toyota Jeep. Then Chryslers lawyers made them stop that crap.
@@CFITOMAHAWK They are maintenance nightmares too, but I still like them for some reason. My dream is a fully upbuilt Defender though!
Nighmares? Because you have to replace a door swicht or a ball joint at 150k miles. Dont be so fragile.
Thanks Donut. Now I’ll have to see this video posted every day in every single one of the Jeep groups I belong to. As if seeing “what size tire can I run without a lift” every day isn’t annoying enough.
Everyone on YT knows its 40s on stock axles..... 😊
@@highwayman1218 you only get two answers to that question... Some guy who swears he ran 40s on a stock d30 arguing with the guy utterly convinced you need 1 tons to handle 32s.
@@stevebrown4401 🤣🤣🤣 It's so true it
1984 Ranger 4WD pickup stock front TTB axles will handle 10.5R31's with only a 2inch body lift needed.
I love to hate on jeeps as much as the next guy, but last year my mom bought a 2021 jeep wrangler sport. A base model with skinny street tires, roll windows and no lockers as she didn't have the money for a Rubicon. Together we went on many jeep runs and to my surprise, we were able to keep up with built jeeps on some serious terrain on our jamboree in Idaho. She ended up selling the sport later on to get a Rubicon, but to this day I'm blown away by how capable that little jeep was.
@@vids595 Any? Are you sure? There's several out there that should at least rival it I'd think.
@@gahbah274 yeah I am sure about his statement except for one part. The raptors is really only good for desert running. I wouldn't take it down many trails as it's wide.
@@joemarine2 They need to bring the raptor ranger to the US
One of the best things about the Jeep is the resale. Amazing how these things hold their value. Throw $5000 into rims and tires and a quality lift kit and you’re golden.
I guess the only thing better than a Jeep resale is a 4Runner resale! I sure love my Yoda!
@@douglasbuck2359 ok
@@ZanKronKa Have you SEEN how much 10, even 20 year old 4Runners in decent shape go for? It's nuts!
@@douglasbuck2359 only thing better than a 4runner is a landcruiser. The new ones are cool . But nothing beats an old fj40. Old jeeps are built like toys compared to them. They are tanks.
My dad has a 1980 CJ-7, he bought it new, I always joked with him telling him it’s like my older brother. That Jeep has taken the family to some amazing places and had been through some gnarly things, but it never failed us. Just takes a beating and keeps going. Just a beast.
As a kid living in Chicago I've always wanted a Jeep and everyone I knew always told me all the cons of owning a Jeep. People always criticizing Jeep's questioning why bother owning one in the city. Making me feel bad for wanting one. Years later and after graduating I moved to Texas I bought myself a Jeep JK and LOVE it.
I mean, you can park a two door Jeep anywhere in the city. You can even run over annoying cars or people if they are in the way. Plus Chicago snow can be pretty nasty. :) It has its city uses to.
Now they're just too damn expensive! I'd love to see a bare bones kinda jeep. No gimmicks, just a Jeep!
Yes, exactly! These new Jeeps are getting far too luxurious
Get a YJ👍🏻
true bro I just picked up a gladiator so pricey for something kinda basic but they hold their value like a mf
This is why the Jeep guys call the TJ the last "true" Jeep
Check out the mohindra
"I totally need mud-boggers, removable doors, upgraded suspension, and a winch to take the kids to school."
Unfortunately, that is going to be 97% of the new Broncos
Well unless you plan on dragging soccer mom's to the middle of a forest and leaving them there with a jeep full of gas they won't get it
I need a 707 H.P. Grand Cherokee to commute
@@d.s7741 so do I. I need the redeye. Smiles per gallon. Jot miles. I'll work some OT to full my tank. 🤷♂️
Yes you do it’s very important that you have that stuff
Rubicon daily driver and freeway, absolutely very good on the road. Just have to be careful of the speed without knowing it. Very little sway but be aware of your speed the Rubicon moves.
I’m 5’3 and pretty agile for my age and just steel side sliders to help with getting into the keep, but wouldn’t change it for the world…well maybe a step stool when I’m 80.
Love the keep. ;)
As a jeep owner I completely agree, however I believe unreliable part is a misconception. The only bad engine that jeep has used was the 3.8L which was for only 7 years. The 4.0 and 3.6 are great engines and can last a lifetime. Almost any other time there is a issue with a jeep is because the person who did the modifications didn’t spend the extra money to strengthen other components.
I don't think it's the Wrangler so much that gets the unreliability thing. It's everything ELSE they make. The Grand Cherokee. The Compass, the Patriot, the Liberty. THOSE things are piles of shit.
I had a Wrangler Sport. For the entire warranty period it was in the garage at least once if not twice each month.
It couldn't be lemoned because none of the service visits were long enough to qualify and the out of service time wasn't enough to qualify.
All gauges going dead, rain leaking into the interior through the firewall, new driveshafts every two months until I got sick of taking it back, a horn that wouldn't work when I needed it because yet ANOTHER clock spring went bad, and even more.
I've had a Jeep 2019 for 2 years now and the differential lock failed multiple times and had to replace the front and rear 3 times until I just decided to sell it.
My commander may not see the off road allot,(I’m more of an inside person as I got older). But but, I do be zooming, and that extra gravel road on the side of the highway it’s great for passing slow drivers
Well, my hate for jeep is because now, jeep is just isnt what it was meant for
I had a 2003 Wrangler X with the 4.0 and that thing would go anywhere on or off road. Whether it was forwarding through water or taking a 4 hour road trip to visit relatives. It was also so much fun flying down gravel roads with that 5 speed manual. If it needed cleaning on the inside you could just take the carpet out and go to town with a pressure washer. It was the ultimate utilitarian vehicle and I wish every single day I still had one.
I had an XJ with the inline 4.0 and it was damn near bulletproof! The only problem is that it wasn't "flip-proof".. so I flipped it 5 times, doing 76 in a 35 zone on some country back roads (young and dumb). Yet when I left the hospital I went out to my mangled Jeep and checked the oil and it started right up!
199k abusive miles on the AMC 4.0L and she still runs like a beast. Reliable: check.
Lol to the person who thinks 200k is a lot of miles
294k
@@myass5964 it’s pretty good for most cars. The 4.0 usually runs well over 300k
@@captaincobra4578
"Well over 300k"
Nah lol, not "most" of them. Most bodies don't make it that long because abuse but I'm in the rust belt so there's that.
300k is the upper limits for what I would buy and trust as a daily, for anything but a diesel, Toyota, Honda, etc. Definitely not a Jeep. If you want a Jeep, under 200k is ideal.
@@Sheridantank eh the 4.0 was simply built different. Idk what made them last long but they do
even old jeep owners make fun of new jeep owners, you gotta realize the massive cultural divide between pre-06 and post-06 jeep owners
So… if I own a newer Jeep y’all would make fun of me?
@@KidJaeProductions not necessarily, there’s just a difference in the ppl that choose to drive different generations of jeeps
@@brodyh2895 I mean that’s true… I’m just very picky with what Jeeps I like. Like the YJ and TJ cool and everything (tho I rather have 4-doors to mess around my friends and such). As far as the JK models I hate the ‘07-‘10 MY because the interior looks cheap. Plus they say the 3.8l V6 engines are unreliable. But I’ve driven the JL models (and the Gladiator, if that counts too) and instantly fell in love with them
More like 2002!!
@@zachsheffee8458 2002 wranglers are exactly the same as 2001 wranglers, they're both TJs. the split as I have witnessed it comes from the split between TJ and JK
The jeep memes at the donut insta are hilarious that admin be wildin
I own a 2004 tj, fucking love Jeep memes bc I learned to laugh at comedy and not immediately offended
I am proud to say that I am the 69th like on this comment
@@kiasoul4lyfe552 nope
I've always hated Jeeps but when you pointed out that the stock one did basically everything the hi low trucks did it really put it in perspective for me lol. Still not a fan of them but alot more respect now.
yeaaah, i have a jeep renegade to keep up with any of jeeps competitors lol. If i'm with the real deal i use my JK
I have pulled more than one pickup truck out of the mud or snow with my stock JKU
Haha sorry heep people but they are a piece of crap like my friend says he has a three on the tree but it’s supposed to be a 5 speed
@@cboysfan128 "Sorry people, but they suck because *personal experience* is bad, that means they suck despite *everyone else's personal experience* hehe"
@@gerhardsmith7892 YOur mother does what to the garbage truck guys?
In terms of reliability, I believe the numbers are off.. There a great number of stock Jeeps with high mileages
The issue that seem to plague owners such as the death wobble - are from modified Jeeps. Even some of the engine or mechanical failures get traced to mods - ie bigger tires and lifts on the jk stock gear (3.21) etc
I'll tell you my issues have all come from either the mods or the crap I put it through.
As a mechanic, I disagree. Any chrysler product 99 to present is guaranteed some electrical gremlins. There wouldn't be a company that specifically rebuilds chrysler engine computers if it wasnt a problem. 1 in 20 will have a coil driver or Asd relay failure.
@@ryurc3033 I’d say you’re biased then, then are companies that specialize in any given brand. There’s a mechanic that’s local to me that specializes on Honda and Toyota, but that doesn’t make them unreliable. I’ve had Jeeps in my family since I was a kid, and they’re actually pretty reliable.
@@4477superman nah fiat Chrysler makes subpar vehicles plain and simple. Maybe the older Jeep’s were good but not anymore. Just like Nissan, they definitely are not the Nissan of the 90s. And for the mechanic that only works on Honda and Toyota, they’re only doing that cause they’re easy to work on lol. Takes a special kind of hate for yourself to be a say.. bmw only mechanic lmao. But it’s not biased. Anyone who knows anything about vehicle reliability or if you look the numbers up yourself, Chrysler just make unreliable cars.
The thing I love about my 2 door jk is it's been a tank (11 years owned). I've hauled 6' stone treads, brick, bags of mortar/cement and sand. Reliable and well built.
'97 Wrangler owner here; parts are pretty cheep and it's easy enough to work on it yourself. Which is lucky because the check engine light comes on every two weeks.
Lol yep
Why do jeep owners just accept it normal for shit to break all the time even if it is cheap tho lol. Got 350k miles on the original motor in my Honda with no cel, and nothing goes wrong other than the occasional maintance.
Mine NEVER did
@@Szostek. How's that Honda do in deep snow and mud and ice? Exactly, keep your Honda fella😆
@@dieseldabz7104 that’s not what I bought it for, but I drove a slammed Miata delivering food during a Michigan winter and didn’t get stuck once in snow, so if you really need a jeep for snow than that’s driver error
As a Jeep Comanche owner, what I dislike about the community, where I live at least, is that you'll get left out if you don't have round headlights, a solid front axle and a 7 slot grille. According to them, you don't have a "real Jeep" if you're missing one of those things, even if the original Jeep didn't have a 7 slot grille. Truly knowlegeable owners that appreciate every model are few and far between. And people from the "Jeep community" around here all build their Wranglers the same and all look like kid's toys; angry grilles, wheels that stick out way past the fenders, and some sort of military star or punisher skull for decals...
Yep, most of those machines will never even see a dirt road.
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Do not like those people either but hey, it’s their money, nobody can stop em
I have been wanting an older comanche with that unkillable straight six for years.
XJ cherokee owner, can confirm
when i bought my xj cherokee i got in on some of the forums and learned three things. one, a lot of enthusiasts seem to agree that the last good truly reliable jeeps died with the 4.0 I6 from the 90s. they’re stupid unreliable now but everything from that in-line six and earlier was still rock solid. it’s why i bought one, mine is at almost a quarter million miles and she still has plenty of life left in her. those are the ones you see racking up hundreds of thousands of miles. two, there’s a ton of infighting and gatekeeping in the community. this video touched on it with the pay-to-win jeep jamborees, but even beyond that there are a lot of people who will only consider the wranglers to be “real jeeps” even though there are plenty of equally capable models. go on the jeep subreddit and you’ll see countless arguments over who can receive a jeep wave. a lot of the debate is whether xjs like mine count. third, regardless of opinion on what counts, we all hate the renegade
One thing I've noticed is most if not all XJ owners (now-a-days) are pretty much on the same level of thinking. You can't get one that isn't at least 20 years old and with that comes many problems and issues that most people don't want to deal with. All the people left driving them (me included) are on some level self taught mechanics and don't drive them as a status symbol but because they legitimately love the vehicle for what it is. Now, if you look at the Wrangler market, it's super fragmented with people driving very old CJ's up to brand new Rubicons that cost over $80,000. This seems to be where the main "Jeep thing" debate comes into play. It's similar to that of the "muscle car". You have old cameros and chargers in one corner, than new muscle cars like the Hellcat/Challenger etc.
We all love* the renegade. We hate whatever came out in 2014 they put a renegade sticker on. I think it was a fiat.
So… 3.6 is bad too?
haha i have a renegade. i think it's a cute car and i love the functionality but i definitely want a version made by a different car company
The 4.0 comes from the 80s. And the 2.5s are super reliable too, afterall that's what the 4.0 was developed from. But yes, those two engines, both from AMC were the best Jeep engines ever.
I drive a 2018 JLU sport s as my every day driver and I love it. Amazing how capable a stock wrangler is off-road. I bought it used with 26,000 miles in March last year and have put 40,000 miles on it in 9 months. No issues at all. I will definitely get another wrangler when the time comes.
I was never a jeep guy but my grandma sold me her old grand cherokee a little over a year ago and as Im driving it more and more I am satrting to realize I really dont want to drive anything else
Man so sorry to hear about Jerry, big hug to everyone at Donut😢
Small edit: sorry for the big scare lol
@@レナちゃん-q6h shut up we're mourning
wait what?!?! where did you hear that? link it please
bruh What's going on with him ?
@@rtrvechiles1473 uncle Jerry died 😞
Lmao you really got me with this i was like wtf
I am on my second Wrangler and am loving this thing. Had is since June, it's a PHEV Wrangler Rubicon 4x5. 375hp/475tq and have averaged right around 37mpg because we do lots of sub 20 mile drives each day and charge in between. The kids and dog love it in the summer when we can take the top off and cruise around. I offroad occasionally and the 4xe has a great full time AWD system.
I had one recall since owning it, otherwise no issues. My previous Jeep had one issue the entire time I owned it (faulty AC compressor that was fixed under warranty). I know they get knocked for reliability but I haven't had any big issues yet.
How many miles on it boss
@@alleninda912 5K
@@thillyard1 what do you expect brother even jeeps aren’t going to have serious problems that early
@@alleninda912 unless it’s the new Bronco.. My buddy picked his up in September and it’s been into the dealer 3 times and they’ve had it for over 4 weeks now for the latest issue. I usually trade/sell my cars before 100K miles so I don’t have navy concerns with Wrangler.
I will always remember my mother's jeep. While the thing spent many winters on the road, it saw a lot of hunting seasons. A lot of trails were explored, a lot of memories were made! It's definitely showing its age now, though.
As a mail carrier, I can say that from what I've seen, Jeeps are some of the most hit or miss vehicles out there. Some will go 300k+ miles with little issue, just standard maintenance and a minor repair here and there, then some will just decide "Hey, I just rolled over 100k, better put my tranny out of commision." To be fair, being a rural mail route vehicle will be hard on any vehicle, no matter what, and I understand why Jeep Wranglers are so popular, between being the only car manufacturer in America that makes factory RHD vehicles, as well as their offroad capabilities, giving them the edge to get up rough driveways and down bad roads in the worst conditions. I still think, with the recent surge in Amazon, they're really not big enough to carry a full route in an office as overburdened as the one I work in, but I won't deny that people can take their Jeeps in places my Toyota Sienna can't go.
Thanks for your service. My dad was a mail carrier and he used to sneak me into his jeep. Then they switched to those god awful ugly square van things.
Well obviously a sienna is a soccer mom car. Lol. Compare a jeep to 4runner and taco please!!
@@ckong46 Uh... taco?
@@southernstylegaming8580 Tacoma
@@ckong46 or an FJ Cruiser.
as a kid years ago I was told that it was because of the abundance of jeeps left here in the Philippines after the war is why we have a kind of unique vehicle for public transportation. instead of having lots of buses we have elongated jeeps designed to carry lots of passengers from one place to another. although some aren't original willy's jeep, the ones built after the war were made in their image. also some have mercedes badges for the reason that mercedes is affiliated with wealth.
my outback has probably seen more mud and snow than most jeeps, but that being said, I have come across jeeps on heavily destroyed bush road that even my work quad couldn't go down
I'd venture to say if you drive a Subaru, your penis has probably seen more "mud" than most Jeeps and destroyed many a bushes....straight bogging that mf'er. Save some for everyone else.
I had a two door JL and now I have a JT. Both are manual and both my favorite vehicles I’ve ever owned. Those who like Jeeps (Wranglers) find them to be an extremely charming vehicle with an amazing community behind it.
I love my Jeep TJ, it’s built and looks good, never really get too much hate on it, sometimes I get the occasional you should diesel swap it. And who knows, might just do it.
I want to throw a Cummins in my TJ so bad but damn is it a lot of work.
I think Tj and YJs are the least toxic owners. JK are the obnoxious ones usually and JL are the moms
You have the 4.0 in-line 6? If so that motor is super sought after! Keep it! I ran my so called “unreliable” TJ to 245k miles on 33s then 35s without a single break down. Just maintaining and modding.
@@CoryMp3 yeah 4.0 with a 5 speed also on 33’s and now 35’s and all I’ve done is a clutch with plenty of playing in the swamp and mud. Nothing can stop a Jeep with the inline 6.
@@CoryMp3 about time someone said it. TJ is by far the most reliable year because of the motor choices
As a Jeep owner, I love watching other “Jeep” owners get salty 😂😂
I love watching whistlindiesil make fun of jeep owners
@@natethegreat3194 i hate watching whistlindiesel ruin trucks by squatting them
I just factory ordered a Jeep because I wanted a 4x4 with manual transmission, & i'm a MoPar guy.
Who else has a 4x4 with manual transmission (and straight front axle)?
And being a MoPar guy, I guess I really don't care. L.O.L.
Deadass 😭 ive had my liberty for years and am just now learning how toxic the community can be
yj my beloved 😍😍😍
Although it’s easy to blame the jeep itself, Jeeps are really freakin awesome and I would love to have one myself.
But a lot of Jeep owners tho….
You just have to be an adventurous type, and know how to spot and tread carefully or even avoid the ones that just want it for the superficial stuff. Personally I don't mind them types, especially if they're actual car folk.
That's seriously one of the big draws to the brand. Aftermarket out the wazoo! If you wanna build a tank, you got it! If you want to make a SEMA build, you got it! If you wanna be somwhere in the middle, no problem. Parts galore, and 100% someone else has documented working with it all.
@@MaddJakd I 100% agree. I feel bad for the genuine jeep owners and not the JEEEEEEEP owners.
@@MaddJakd Asides from a few, most Jeep owners can be generally put into 3 groups:
Mid-life crisis dad, teen girl, and fanboy.
Fanboys are by the far the worst for the same reasons people can’t stand for JDM fanboys.
Mid-life crisis dads and teen girls I can give the benefit of the doubt.
For dads, although most are pavement queens with g-fuels etc., I do respect the ones who waited to buy it when they’re middle aged because that’s when they can actually afford one. I respect any goal to an extent you work for.
99.9% of Teen girls had they’re jeep bought by their parents but that’s not always a bad thing. I have a friend who’s parents bought her a Toyota FJ. She doesn’t know a whole lot about cars or any of the car community whether that be jeep, fj, muscle, jdm, etc. She doesn’t act snobbish about it however and she wants to know more not just about her FJ but all of the car community. Idc if you don’t know. If you respect car culture and furthermore want to know about it, then I have a massive respect for you.
Jeeps are ridiculously fun and you are right and that you can do a lot with them. But sometimes the fan base can really get in the way.
@@welpthatescalatedquickly6495 your stereotypes of midlife crisis dads just reminds me of keemstar
As a jeep owner, yes. Constantly getting judged by “jeeple” about how my tires are smaller, how my lift isn’t as high. Then again, I get slandered a lot more by truck and car guys than jeep guys tho
As a Jeep owner, they are a blast. An off road convertible. But yes, we certainly have a stigma!
In addition to the CJ/wrangler line they also made super capable SUVs in 90s and early 00s. My bone stock 04 grand Cherokee with its solid axles routinely out performs modern SUVs in snow, ice, and trails. (Not so much in mpg though).
Because "It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand!" 😂😂
Ya ok sure😆
I miss when car companies made fun cars. ☹
If I'm In someone's jeep I refuse to wave.
RIP uncle jerry, I have fond memories with him. We once visited a coffee shop in amsterdam. Needless to say, they didn't have any coffee but Jerry's glaucoma was much better for the rest of the trip. He was a polite man, always tipping his servers even when they were serving tables other than his own. He had a great scalp. Actually the greatest scalp I've ever seen. He was a scalp model part time. Love you Jer.
I’ve got to say he was the best one out of the two of the three guys with Male pattern baldness rip you will be missed😞
My family has had more laughs and memories in our Jeep then you could have with 3-4 different vehicles.
We have ours for memories and enjoyment for all.
Nothing more than shaking with excitement after you go over things on a trail.
Long story short, its an American G-Wagon. Designed for the military, made civilian versions, added lots of leather and chrome.
That's the High Altitude in a nutshell... The most luxurious trim in the current JL Wrangler lineup....
I think a lot of it comes from how popular they are. When a brand is very popular with lots of buyers, there will be divides. I have my TJ for driving to the forrest with my dog and to remote target ranges mostly. Between the offroads use and mods Jeeps see, its surprising there isnt more issues with them really. And the only issues I have had is stupid stuff that cost nothing to fix and is expected on any vehicle that is more than 20 years old.
20 year Jeep owner and I abuse the crap out of them… I have not had any of these reliability issues I keep hearing about. In those 20 years, I have only had maybe 1.5 weeks total where my Jeep was in the shop. The ones I see broken are usually lifted and poorly built. Based on what I do to mine, they are ridiculously reliable vehicles. Great video tho!
How about them dana 35 rear axles. Or 80s yj pugeot transmissions. Overall the wranglers are built well but are often compared to toyotas of the 80s and 90s wich were better built because they’re such a large company with a global market demanding more of a industrial work vehicle also its toyota. But toyota people r the worst people. Lol
I put my jeep trough hell and have not had a problem yet... the paint scratches a little to easy when rubbing up on trees but I can buff those out later.
@@uncleartax Dana 35s definitely weren’t the best for anything bigger than a 35 in tire. But for the most part they were ok. I’d still take a 80s or 90s jeep with having simple solid axles, and not dealing with ifs on the late 80s and 90s yota. Plus if you get a 4.0 it makes more power than a 22re and will still last really long.
Well it’s like I had an Xbox 360. It never had the red ring of death. That being said everyone else I know has the issue. I’ve had 3 friends with Jeeps. One of them had a leak on the roof that could never be fixed, not to mentioned messed up electronics after going through flood water that was well below the wading depth.
Jeep told me that a brand-new engine burning 2 quarts of oil between oil changes was considered "standard operation." This was in the early 2000s. I guess we all have different standards for our money.
I bought a 92 Cherokee with like 250K miles, and the thing is still a champ. I've thrown on new shocks, leaf springs, injectors, control arms, and brakes - and a new speedometer because the old one died 🤣. Thing still runs like a champ, is surprisingly doing well on gas mileage, and does everything I need it to. I love these things, and yeah, they've got quirks (glares at heat waves rising off the hood,) but with a minimum of automotive knowledge, basic tools, and care, they last.
Unless it's a Jeep Liberty.
I love that every time the winter comes my dad says that a Jeep would be good but what he doesn't understand is that there are plenty of good offroad cars. That just proves the point of how good of a reputation Jeeps have. And I live in Europe so no American genes too. Also congrats on 6 mln.
I've loved Jeeps ever since seeing one in the TV show Mork and Mindy, when I was a kid in the 80's. I have a 97 TJ and my son has a 2001 Cherokee. We "argue" over which one is better, but we both love Jeeps
Xj and TJ are both the 2 best they've ever made!
The one thing I cannot stand about jeep owners are the unnecessary usage of extreme LED lights on general highways. I mean seriously, driving by one of those things on a rainy night is blinding. It's bad enough that their headlights are raised in a position where it looks like they are brights are always on.
I just bought my first Jeep. I have been a VW fanboy my whole life so buying a Jeep was a leap. So far I love it and can't wait to take the top and doors off. I still own 3 VWs and will always love them but I get the "Jeep thing".
Hope you get the top and doors off soon! It’s really really fun. It changes the game. I deal with getting 9mpgs and blown around on the freeway for the days I have my top and doors off.
Just bought mine 3 weeks ago. And I love ❤️ it
Congrats bro! Trust me, taking the top down on a hot, summer day with your girlfriend riding shotgun have brought about some of my favorite memories over these last few years I’ve owned mine.
@@Ashbro117 that’s why I can’t wait till summer so exited
Wranglers finally got a V8 option recently, bears mentioning in context of your Land Cruiser 200 comparison. Fun video!
Yeah the new wrangler does have that amazing 392 V8, however it’s price tag for the V8 is very expensive.
@@abbasiautomotive you realize what the cost of a Toyota Land Cruiser is right
A coworker of mine has a Jeep and we always make fun of him for two reasons: 1) He ALWAYS talks about it (and he can ramble on for hours), and 2) because it is indeed unreliable (he's had to take it into the shop multiple times in the last few months, mainly for tie rod issues, transfer case replacement, rear main seal leaks, etc). One thing I will give him though is that he's dedicated to driving and taking care of it
I’ve got a bone-stock ‘15 JKU Rubicon. It’s hot in the summer, It’s loud with the hard top, louder with the soft top, twitchy, gets crappy mileage, and fourth gear grinds every single time.
It’s the greatest vehicle ever.
The Instagram mod is proud rn 😂
Great video. I fell for the TJ when I figured out that it exists for one reason and one reason only: Fun. I love that you can take the top, and doors off and fold down the windshield. Safety goes entirely out the window and that adds to the fun factor. Other selling points? It's idiot proof to maintain, and the 4.0L is bulletproof. I also like that it has a proper 5 speed manual transmission and a manually shifted transfer case. I love the idea that I genuinely have to drive it and cannot depend on the non-existent safety and comfort features. It's as if someone read my mind and built a car just for the way the mechanical part of my mind works. I'll keep my Volvo for safety and my Jeep for fun.
Exactly. I own a WG overland (WJ but built in Austria) and it is WAY more capable off the shelf with front and rear lockers from factory with Quadra Drive II so I see both sides. I bought a TJ for exactly what you said - fun - to make it as capable as the WG grand I'd have to spend at least 5 grand but I don't care about that. I don't care bouncing around and I don't care about off the shelf performance. It's just a fun little short wheel base that I leave the top off 90% of the year (I live in a true Mediterranean climate, unlike LA's try hard effort - Think Phoenix but on the beach). But my daily driver is a Mazda 6 Sport *ducks and runs for cover*
I love my 04 unlimited. Lots of mods, tasteful but purposeful, and it actually is the stock ride height and sitting on 15x31s. I daily it with a bikini top and half doors and there's nothing better. I've had Porsche, Lotus, BMW, Jaguar, Smart, to name a few, everything from 3 to 12 cylinders, and this is the most rewarding (and by far the most capable). It's low-brow fun, it's basic, Lego-style diy, it's a big dumb tractor, and I love it!
I started out buying a jeep for the look it had, 99 jeep tj. Then started off roading and started upgrading stock parts for trail/rock crawling. Went through some hard times and couldn't really afford the jeep and barely managed to financially keep the "GreenHog". Fast forward several more years and I completely removed my jeep off the frame and almost completely rebuilt the thing. I still offroad but the jeep is truly a lifestyle and fixing it is happily apart of that.
I have taken my Jeep offroad maybe a handful of times just to see what it was like. Since then, it's mostly a pavement princess, and most of my mods are purely for the aesthetic. It lives up to all the memes. But honestly...I don't care. I never understood why people liked driving before I got a Jeep, and it brings me so much joy I really don't care what people think of it, it's mine. It leaks, it makes funny noises, it's terrible on gas and I love it XD
Not that bad on gas. Unless not well taken care off.
You get it!
My car doesn’t leak or make funny noises and it’s great on gas and only cost me 3000 dollars and guess what? It’s mine too.
Smiles per gallon.😁
This comment right here is why people love to hate Jeeps. I know you’ll never get it OP and that’s okay.
My family has owned Jeeps since the 50s and we still own our grandpa’s 48 CJ2A and I even learned how to drive in it. We’re also currently fixing up a Jeep for me a, 46 CJ2A and we’re gonna put a Dauntless V6 in it.
Pathetic😂
I love my 98 Grand Cherokee, it’s so much fun seeing other modified and stock jeeps and going on some really amazing trails.
I love my 92 Cherokee too. Even though i cracked my 4.0 block after a day of mudding :(
@@Pong-Lenis 87 XJ here and it seems that on average xj owners are less toxic than jk or jl owners
I grew up in Montana and Utah and we used Jeeps all the time in some of the roughest terrain in the West, both the known places that people think of off the top of their head (Moab, etc.), but also brutal unknown places (my dad was a geologist/chemist so we'd be out surveying). At 15 I restored a 1955 Willy's Wagon for my first car (my second was a restored 1962 Lincoln Continental, an absolute boat of a car). We had a Cherokee with ARB lockers and a host of other mods, which was an absolute goat in red rock country and was a wonderful rig (when we didn't get vapor lock or my brother wasn't accidentally lifting the rear axle a few feet off the ground coming down a steep red-rock section). We'd leave school when we didn't have class and go up into the Wasatch and explore muddy trails. But, all of that said, we also had bone stock 1990s Subaru legacy. When we'd go out into some of the remotest territory in Montana and Utah, we never once got stock whether in red rock, sand, mud, or snow. And we'd go out with guys that had decent Wranglers who sometimes needed to winch out, which is when I realized that a lot of it is simply driver skill and planning (and an understanding of terrain). My dad was like rain man with that Subaru. It still makes me laugh.
Disclaimer: although that Subaru was a beast, I absolutely hated going out in it since I always assumes we'd get stuck (ye of little faith"). It simply never happened, yet it left all the other geologists in their wranglers and other rigs aghast, just backslapping my dad after navigating brutal sections of San Rafel Swell.
I now live in Spain so four wheeling is just not the same. There's no similar property as BLM land so anyone with a Jeep tends to be weirdo with giant tires and and snorkel (spoiler: there's nowhere anywhere near Madrid anyone would ever need a snorkel on their Jeep). I don't mind it though. I wish I had one, even if I couldn't use it for its true purpose. Because, deep down, they're cool cars and, who knows, maybe in a past life they used to crawl out of canyons just like me. To each their own. Life isn't a zero sum game.
I think jeeps are pretty reliable though. I dont have a lot of experience with the new ones but my family has had a ton of jeeps up to the 2000s models, probably around 40-50. They've always been pretty reliable until you start heavily modifying them, and when you're doing that, its usually to take them off road where you are always going to break something. It's only a matter of time. I have a 97 xj that had an engine make it to 350,000 miles. I put a new engine in it but the one with 350k was still running, just pretty tired.
Jeep makes amazing vehicles overall and i love the company and their products. The only thing i cant stand are the people who drove them. Especially the people who feel the need to park diagonally taking up 2-3 spots, and the people who prowl the parking lot for that pile of snow to park over in the winter
Just leaving a spot for that prius...
Another part of the popularity of the Wrangler/CJ... the ability to drive over almost any snowbank the plows left at the end of your driveway in the winter and take the top off for the summer. Despite most never going off road, in the snow belt they're a great daily driver for bad conditions and when the summer arrives and the sun's out the top can come off and let the sunshine in.
Awesome point right here
I've got an XJ 4.0, a WJ 4.7, both on 6 inch lifts and 33 inch tires. I love 'em both, but I won't spring for a Wrangler. For days when I want the top down, I have a V6 5 speed 4x4 Nissan Pathfinder with the roof cut off. I also love my Sawzall.
I love to make fun of jeep owners, I have a wrangler, and jeep ppl have given me two ducks 😂
But the community is one of the nicest group I have encountered. Especially out on the trails. Everyone is there to help each other.
I have yet to be ducked
Been lucky to have been ducked like 5-6 times! Always fun to then turn around and duck the next cool Jeep I see! Plus the wave. I get the hate, some of us suck. But the community is cool.
As a Rubicon owner, I love it. It's practical for every day drive and I know when the blizzard hits my Jeep is so capable I can literally drive it on the snow with out having to put 4X4 on. I've rolled past stuck FWD Corollas with my Jeep on RWD and ESP off.
man, gotta be honest, that's a terrible comparison
Not really. Rwd i waay easier to get stuck in snow than Fwd
@@rafa.t Yep, as someone whose lived in snow area for 30 yrs, RWD vehicles are normally very bad for icy conditions. My Jeep in RWD easily getting through places a FWD can't is pretty impressive. Even knowing I can just turn on 4X4 and make it a complete non-issue is awesome
Rubicon package is comical. paying for upgraded parts that are just going to be changed immediately is a ridiculous notion.
@@garettodd3037 lol, you don't know shit about jeeps if you think the rubicon is just a trim package. It's more than enough offroading than 99.9% of drivers will ever need or use.
I think like most things on the road they've gotten too big. Would love to see something Renegade sized but with more Wrangler characteristics. Not sure how Jeep is going to handle the switch-over to electric, I wouldn't imagine the popular skateboard chassis design lends itself very well to dealing with sharp pointy rocks scraping the underside of the vehicle.
My friend just got a true Jeep (except it’s an automatic transmission). It’s a 2017, base trim package with manual windows, steel wheels, 4WD, V6, rubber/plastic interior, and a soft top. Super cool!
He actually got through a whole jeep video without mentioning the jeep wave
Stolen from motorcyclists
@@jontest5718 found a hater
I actually really want a late 90s Cherokee that i can build, and when I do I’m not waiving at other Jeep’s
@@jontest5718 you’re right because most jeep owners don’t wave to Cherokees. It’s a wrangler thing in most areas.
Oh thats interesting. Thanks for letting me know.
In india jeep has similar story. Jeep had an alliance with an indian automaker and both provided jeeps to the military and slowly the consumer market. The result: today both companies offer the jeep or jeep like products and we love the jeep name 📛
Love the Godevil 4 and especially the F-head. A M38A was my daily driver, replacing a 72 Commando with the I6 and a YJ I4. The M is definitely the US sport car of the early 50s. The Commando had the smoothest leaf springs ever. All were very reliable off-roaders. The F-head had instant torque from idle. The I6 sounded like a boat.
A Jeep that sounds like a boat? Sounds absolutely lovely
Fun video. Didn't know some of the history. I took my bone stock jeep through the Hot Springs Offroad Park and earned two Jeep Badges of Honor for the Snake and Rubicon Ridge trails. All I did was put offroad tires on. Not a scratch. Made it through the rock crawls. People would be amazed what a stock Jeep can do.
5:37
Am I the only one fascinated by this?
Super Bowl worthy ad right there!
I'm born and raised in Butler Pennsylvania the first factory of the Jeep. As the home town of the Jeep we hold Jeep fest with thousands of Jeeps for a week festival every year. We shut down the town and all of the town supports it. We've had Jeeps from Europe Australia South America and from every where else you can think of. I live maybe 5 miles from the original factory. As I'm on my porch having a smoke there's a Jeep in the parking lot of my local shop.
Rest in piece uncle Jerry
I get most jeeps have a jeep feel but the trackhawk was for sure one of the best SUVs ever made.
I loved the cherokees.
97-01.
Definitely in the garage wrenching lots,but 4 inch lift and everything else stock.
They've taken me to some really cool backcountry places.
Still rolling one for my back country rips.
I love to hate my Jeep because it spent 110 days in service in the past 12 months…