nardo pangaribuan if you’re traveling west to East, the flight would be shorter because you are flying with the wind. When you fly East to west, you’re flying against the wind
It may be useful for business travelers, maybe specially useful. Assuming this is not an ad for Qantas or anything, and realizing I don’t know how the other passengers felt, the reporter said he felt pretty good after a long flight. If they can ultimately find useful information from these tests, they can definitely apply whatever findings they do on how to deal with such extreme jet lags to business travelers who have a tight schedule or a meeting right after landing for some reason. Also Qantas is testing on 6 frequent fliers, and these don’t tend to be your average Joe.
mad true, I got upgraded to buesness this summer coming back from Europe to New York on Swiss, I swear I felt more comfortbale there then on a real bed just laying down doing whatever you want
There were only 40 people on the flight, all in business. I don’t think I recall a straight answer about how the flight would go fully laden, be interesting if they have to incorporate glide time on more than just the descent.
LON-SYD non-stop will be amazing, but not sure why the media is making the 19-hour Qantas flight sound so exotic when Singapore Airlines is flying SQ21 from EWR-SIN daily right now at 18.5+ hours. I don't think the extra 30 minutes makes much difference to jet lag and passenger endurance/comfort.
I have completely eliminated the 'jet lag' problem at least for myself. I have been flying internationally since 1980 These days I regularly fly between Asia, USA and the UK. I am not sure that the exhaustion is due to time differencies. Try sitting up at home in an uncomfortable chair unable to move your legs and often told you cannot get out of your seat, for 10 hours. You might experience the same 'jet lag' symptoms after that, in fact it would be almost torture to try it. I found that a lot of the problem was due to lack of sleep. A USA to Asia trip can mean being up or on the plane over 30 hours. Try going without proper sleep for 24 hours or more, even a moderate 5 hour flight means being awake and busy before and after the flight, and getting tired even without the flight A luxury solution I have these days is to be able to take an afternoon nap. This puts me into two 12 hour cycles instead of one 24 hour cycle. When I get to the US which is about 12 hour out from Asia, I just extend the nap to become the night sleep and reduce the what was the night sleep to a nap. Another luxury solution is I refuse now to fly economy any longer than a couple of hours. The lay flat business class seats are lovely. I enjoy the pampering by the service to but it isn't why I fly business its being able to sleep properly. That is how I can arrive after a flight and not feel any problems at all.
I mean that's part of the reason why flights like Newark-Singapore doesn't have economy class onboard. Economy passengers would of course want to relax a bit in a layover, adjust as they go, and relax a bit. These flights are of course mostly geared towards businessmen wanting to save time.
Sounava Ghosh it probably won’t have an economy class like that of other planes... it would be like how Singapore airlines have for their route from Singapore to Newark, just business class and premium economy
Enjoy your premium food and leg space up in business class ... while the rest of us are stuck in economy with no leg room basic food and screaming kids . Big difference pal
@@xXTheDerpXx yeah besides if the Singapore-Newark flight is anything to go by then these ultra lon flights won't have economy class onboard. Again these flights are primarily for business travelers wanting to get to their destination the fastest by whatever means possible. Any sane economy passenger going that far would take at least one layover along the way.
J R plenty of economy passengers fly up to 17.5 hours at the moment. And most think it’s much better than a layover. The extra 2 hours flight time isn’t going to reduce the amount of economy passengers to zero. They’ve done lots of market research on this and have said that there is market demand for economy travel, as well as premium, business and first. You’re likely not in the target market for this sort of flight. That’s fine. There are other options for you. But as long as the plane is 90% full every day with people who actually prefer this, Qantas won’t go chasing your business
Planes should have whatever people are willing to pay for. Nothing is free. It would be nice to have pods on long or short haul flights, but there's no business case for that because most people aren't willing to spend thousands of dollars more for them.
@Jeff Keeth How is being horizontal taking more space than being seated? You can easily stack 4 people in top of each other in a horizontal position, and can have many people in a row.
For the WSJ writer: This is great stuff for sure, and Qantas deserves to be commended for paying attention to safety and passenger considerations on these (commercially) unprecedented flights. To complement your reporting, it's worth noting the US Air Force has been systematically studying and doing (very) long-duration flying for decades, and there's quite a body of knowledge out there about sleep/rest cycles, crew alertness, inflight nutrition & hydrations, preparation, recovery, and the like. Thanks for highlighting some of the issues associated with being above earth for a long time!
I can't wait for them to do the research on Economy class passengers, since these people flew in business... also, I am so excited that they will provide pajamas and a fitness class for everybody on board!!!
@@tim_f_jones I stand corrected although it seems from what I've just read from Qantas and Airbus, it will be very different from standard economy - the plane will carry fewer than 150 passengers
I'm pretty sure they won't even have economy class just because it's that long. Singapore airlines did a similar long haul flight from NYC to Singapore, they only have an economy premium which has slightly bigger seats and more comfortable. Plus the economy class for international flights is much more comfortable than domestic ones
My wife and I recently flew from Dallas to Sydney which was a 17 hour flight, of course we couldn’t afford first class. Flying coach vs first class is a very different experience. The seating on these planes are way to tight for flights this long. It was the worst 17 hours of our lives.
@@eliteclassicdetailing Will they do more tests? Probably, but if they're going to do a real test it's not going to be people sitting in first or in the business class. A real test would probably be the first few flights filled with actual passengers. These test with barely anyone inside was hardly a test of long haul passenger behaviors.
Please do this Qantas!! I will definitely buy a ticket and so will all these people! I know you're reading this because it's already super popular!! See??
Whenever they do these type of videos, they always do it from a business class seat! Like dude, anybody can do a 19 hour flight when you're laying in luxury and being served premium meals.......show us this in Economy so we'll really see what jetlag is!
Not at all. I got a resonable price this year and flew Business Class on Emirates A380 between Auckland and Dubai (17 hours). I just relaxed and enjoyed the flight and it was over before I knew it. If anyone thinks a long haul flight in Business Class is a challenge, then their life must be VERY easy.
I flew 17 hrs nonstop San Fran. To Dubai. In coach. It is miserable and dangerous. Sitting that long even with restroom breaks Causes loss of circulation in legs and buttocks. It is painful. Business and first class. No problem. You can lay down.
I am so proud of our national airline, Qantas. The most profitable airline in the world. The oldest commercial airline in the world (100 years in 2020). The only airline in the world to have never crashed an aircraft and now it will be the first airline in the world to fly 20 hours non-stop without destroying passengers or aircrew. It pays its cabin crew and pilots really well, it still does its heavy maintenence after a disasterous experiment with the Phillippines a few years ago. So we Australian who fly to the US, Canada and direct to Chile regularly, 14+ hours anyway, 20 is just a bit more. But for those with a bit of time, a stop in Hawaii or New Zealand is always nice. I'd much prefer that.
@@malahammer Yes, but the research flight is designed to think of ways to provide the whole plane to keep people comfortable. It would be impossible to have all of the economy passengers doing the Macarena in the middle of the plane.
As a regular Qantas passenger and platinum frequent flier, I've traveled in all classes on long haul flights. The journalist here was in business class: that's a no brainer. It's doable. Premium economy would be hard, but doable. Economy class on the Qantas Dreamliners, frankly, would be brutal. I've done London to Sydney via Singapore in economy, and it takes you out for days. I wonder what the acceptable health outcome levels Qantas is willing to take on.
This is why I believe we need a Concorde again. SST is a great way to reduce these things and when a large portion of the flight would be over the ocean, travelling over Mach 2 would be great in reducing jet lag and time spent on the plane in general.
In my career in the Military I have flown to the Far East, and Europe many times and to the Middle East once. Jet Lag? We had no time for jet lag; once we deplaned and transported to our assembly area we got down to the business we came for. As for our transportation for our trip, if it was Military we Sardine packed. If it was commercial charter the seating was no leg room for anyone over 5 foot 10 inch. Sleep in flight was the recommended way to pass the time because we would be up and on duty for up to thirty hours after arrival. The longest flight was 23 hours from the West coast USA to Vietnam with two refueling stops and no deplaning, no walking about on board. Ah! To have the luxury of jet lag.
I have never shitted on a airplane I just don’t ever have the urge and I usually fast when traveling I eat crackers mostly and plenty of fluids . Plus I always felt like if I shitted on a plane they would land the plane due to emergency because I would of blew it up !!!
I spent 17 of my 41 years in that industry flying long-haul flights, and I find it interesting that they didn't talk about the radiation health concerns of flying that long at those flight levels. It's a fact that in some countries long-haul flight crews are considered "radiation" workers, must wear exposure badges and can be limited to how many of those flights they can take. The increase in radiation exposure as you increase altitude is not linear. The difference in exposure between a flight a 31,000 feet as compared to 41,000 feet is very significant! Also, it's a bit comical having only 50 people on that "test" flight - plenty of room to move around. How easy do you think it's going to be getting 300 passengers to stand up and do the Macarena?
Did the 19.5 hour flight from Singapore to New York. Can’t complain because it was business class and the service was amazing. Also, the SIA seats are much better than the Qantas ones. 😅
Basically on non-stop flights to Tokyo, I do not sleep at all. If I do not work on my jet lag it takes me a month to convert to Tokyo time. If I work on it I can be significantly better in one week. 1st I begin taking melatonin coinciding with the new time, a few days before the flight. We arrive late in the day, and being sleep deprived, I manage to sleep the first night. It is extra helpful to sleep in a room with a temperature below 68 degrees Fahrenheit. During the day for at least the first week, I wake when the sun goes up and get outside. Exercise really helps especially exercise in daylight. Of course I continue taking melatonin. Reading before going to bed also helps. Alcohol, especially before going to bed does not help at all. Caffeine or caffeinated drinks, several hours before bedtime, do not help. Do not take naps unless that was what you were used to before. If you feel the need, it is better to get outside and go for a walk.
Im flying to australia next year in july. I have a 6 hour flight from Düsseldorf to Dubai and then a 14 hour flight from Dubai to Sydney. Ill make use of these tips. Wish me luck.
It s good you idea if you flight first class with all that comfort things. But i can't imagine how it is possible to spend 19 hrs in the stand or sit position. And don't forget about couple hours which you spent in departure airport. It is madness. Qantas - you're crazy.
The longest flight I've been was from Abu Dhabi to Chicago for 11 hours in Economy Class.. Felt sick 🤮 and took me 1 week to recover from Jetlag. This guy was in business class..
Cool! Big things are: cabin pressure, home (mathematical average bi-monthly elevation saturation) (Above Sea Level) ASL, and destination elevation ASL. The first couple days are generically spoken to be the down, with a typical rapid recovery and elevation acclimation... just sayin’
I really hope these flights don't become the norm. They use waaaay more fule than a normal 1 stop flight, because you have to carry a lot of extra fuel. And to carry that extra fuel you have to use extra fuel. I think you get my point..
I'm a student who studies in New York and lives in Sydney so I've made this trip almost a dozen times. A few things I have to say - Firstly, the people in this video were seated in business class, and therefore had the luxury of comfort, which makes it easier to sleep. You also don't have to be awoken by anyone who needs to use the bathroom, and you're able to lean your seat back more, which is impossible in economy. Secondly, not everyone has the luxury to afford direct flights, and some people need to book layovers in multiple countries just so they can reduce their fare price. I've been to Japan and New Zealand multiple times, and once even had the option to go through Hawaii for a total 35+ hour trip time (which I did not select). Usually I'll need at least 2-3 layovers, one before LAX/SFO and one after, before Newark/LGA/JFK, which can last anywhere from 2-6 hours. My worst trip was from New York to Sydney a couple years ago, and due to bad weather conditions, the first flight was delayed by a couple of hours, and so I missed the layover (which I had accounted for). They made me stay in the airport for another 24 hours to catch the next flight, so I had to uncomfortably and embarrassingly live and sleep on the chairs in the waiting areas, and try and survive off the expensive airport food. The worst part of this was that the next flight out was on the night of the 24th of December, and due to how international time zones work, I landed on the 26th of December in Sydney. I literally did not experience Christmas at all that year.
I remember in the Army getting deployed. We flew out of Biggs Airfield. We take off to Maine then to Kuwait where we arrive at 0 hr. bus to camp Buring. by 6 AM we get breakfast go to the PX back to the tent and crash out till about 6 PM eat dinner crash out that night up by 6 AM. Jet lag cured. When I came home I almost thought I was going to die of jet lag.
The first time I had jet lag, I had to work later that day. It was an experience I'll never repeat. I'll always schedule a day off. It was like being dead, but still alive enough to experience it.
I do understand everyone's comments that it must be relatively easy to handle 19 hours in business or first class, but I will say I am always amazed that a two engine plane (the Boeing 787-9) can do that
I just came back from Doha and arrived in Perth it took 11 hours, to be honest the best thing to overcome jet lag in my opinion is be active like really active
New York to Sydney Somewhere over the ocean “Ladies and gentelman this is your captain speaking we have just run out of food and beverages. Don’t worry, it’s only 15 more hours to our landing in Sydney.”
19 hours 16 minutes is very long but there are already non stop flight over 17 hours and from what I heard about this flight is that only had 17 minutes of fuel remaining. The plane also had only a handful of passengers and no baggage so this flight will not be possible with a normal weighted airplane. Still an amazing achievement.
I am taking a 16 hr and 45 min flight on Thursday from NYC to Manila. I did 15 hours in economy once before. It is tough but there are ways to deal with it.
Having done lot of 15-16 hour trips in economy from middle east to Lax, I don't mind another 3/4 hours. Anyday better than off boarding, security chex, waiting at airport, and finally onboarding again.
Guys, they don't plan to offer economy class ticket that's why the test isn't in the economy class. Most Ultra Long Haul flight didn't offer it as well
those people are talking about the economy class, I have the only thing to say them "PEOPLE'S THIS IS NOT THE ECONOMY CHANNEL TO WATCH THIS IS "WALL STREET JOURNAL", and the name itself says MONEY, so why they fly in economy ask a question by yourself"
I once flew Cape Town to Dubai(9.5hrs), had a ten hour layover, then flew from Dubai to Melbourne (14.5 hrs), sat in Melbourne for about and hour, and then flew from Melbourne to Auckland (5hrs). Took me nearly two days. I was in NZ for about a week and a half and by the time I recovered it was time to fly home 😂.
What time were your flights? Jet lag impacts you hardest when you start out tired. For me, if the fight starts out in the morning or just after I get up, I feel good for hours and can handle the location and time change when I arrive. If it's a night flight, it's hard to sleep on the plane, my clock is messed up the entire flight, and when I arrive in different timezone and location, it's all the worse. It can take me a week to adjust.
In the end, Qantas may just end up with the 777-8. That plane, when equipped with Business and Premium Economy seating only (limiting the load to 250 passengers), could make the flight between London and Sydney non-stop possible.
I live in Sydney and Ive been waiting for a direct flight to NYC. I cant Stand 12hr flight from Syd to LA then another 6 hours from LA to NYC... its exhausting escpecially how confusing LAX is.
Guys, this 19 hours direct flight are to meant to offer alternative to 30 hours flights with transits. It's meant for people who pays more, so this plane has no economy class.
Usually this kind of extra long-haul flights are Business and first-class only. They are more expensive than regular flights (carring all the fuel in one go mostly), what gets paid whitout much problem by bussines travellers, since their time its expensive to companies, but regular turists normally are more sensitive to cost than time.
@@MottaGroove Actually I've been on long haul flights to South Korea with all cabins filled. I sat in coach most of the time but got lucky one return trip and was upgraded to business class. Business class was awesome! Not quite nineteen hours (i've done 18 hours on military planes) but still seems like forever while sitting in coach.
New York to Nairobi Kenya 14.50 Hours I did for times it’s little bit hard. If you are in first class it’s easy but in the middle class with no space that sucks
The worst part about these long haul flights is knowing you have to do it again to go home. 😭
That’s no problem if you’re in business, but most people are in economy.
No, i mean you can do it in legs
I dunno, but for me going back feels shorter..or maybe just my imagination
I've flown HKG - DFW on economy. Return flight does seem shorter for me. That was before. Now, I make sure I have a layover somewhere.
nardo pangaribuan if you’re traveling west to East, the flight would be shorter because you are flying with the wind. When you fly East to west, you’re flying against the wind
Well If you fly bussines jetlag is last of your concerns mate.
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It may be useful for business travelers, maybe specially useful. Assuming this is not an ad for Qantas or anything, and realizing I don’t know how the other passengers felt, the reporter said he felt pretty good after a long flight. If they can ultimately find useful information from these tests, they can definitely apply whatever findings they do on how to deal with such extreme jet lags to business travelers who have a tight schedule or a meeting right after landing for some reason. Also Qantas is testing on 6 frequent fliers, and these don’t tend to be your average Joe.
mad true, I got upgraded to buesness this summer coming back from Europe to New York on Swiss, I swear I felt more comfortbale there then on a real bed just laying down doing whatever you want
Elion Kilos too bad I’m too broke to afford it
Should have stayed in economy class like 90% of the flight passengers...
And all sat next to each other so they couldn't spread out
I believe they don’t offer economy class tickets on this type of flights. Premium Economy is the cheapest they offer
dude this was a research flight
There were only 40 people on the flight, all in business. I don’t think I recall a straight answer about how the flight would go fully laden, be interesting if they have to incorporate glide time on more than just the descent.
Looks like you don't understand much!
What about having economy travelers in the research aa well?
There are no economy class in ulh flights
Good one.
No one cares about cattle class.
Strap them in and feed them their gruel
Noone cares about the cattle.
@@JD.Knight Says the heifer.
do flat earthers also experience jet-lag?
this ain't jubilee lol
They don’t fly cuz it’s...impossible. LOL
The earth is flat. The moon is a giant projection. The sun is just part of our simulation.
firepowergamerxd troll
No but we do suffer from some youtube comment smartasses;)
When he lands in Australia: Wait what do I do now that the video is over?
Flies back to the US...
Edit: OMG thanks for so many likes lol
We’re expecting you back in your cubicle by 8:00 am.
Me: "Yay....I did it!!" 😊
Announcer: "..now boarding Quantas flight to JFK..."
😩
Lol
nah bro he just fell off the earth
...in economy.
LON-SYD non-stop will be amazing, but not sure why the media is making the 19-hour Qantas flight sound so exotic when Singapore Airlines is flying SQ21 from EWR-SIN daily right now at 18.5+ hours. I don't think the extra 30 minutes makes much difference to jet lag and passenger endurance/comfort.
Because it involves Singapore, they have yet to Columbus it or discover it.
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@@amit4Bihar I'm pretty sure the British already did that about a century ago.
Marketing coup by Qantas. They managed to make this different ebon enough to get a lot of media.
Its exciting because people have always wanted a direct Sydney to London and NYC. SIN-EWR isnt exciting cause the purposely made the route long.
"Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
No, we still at the TSA check in long line.
Shut up Nappa
I have completely eliminated the 'jet lag' problem at least for myself. I have been flying internationally since 1980 These days I regularly fly between Asia, USA and the UK. I am not sure that the exhaustion is due to time differencies.
Try sitting up at home in an uncomfortable chair unable to move your legs and often told you cannot get out of your seat, for 10 hours. You might experience the same 'jet lag' symptoms after that, in fact it would be almost torture to try it.
I found that a lot of the problem was due to lack of sleep. A USA to Asia trip can mean being up or on the plane over 30 hours. Try going without proper sleep for 24 hours or more, even a moderate 5 hour flight means being awake and busy before and after the flight, and getting tired even without the flight
A luxury solution I have these days is to be able to take an afternoon nap. This puts me into two 12 hour cycles instead of one 24 hour cycle. When I get to the US which is about 12 hour out from Asia, I just extend the nap to become the night sleep and reduce the what was the night sleep to a nap.
Another luxury solution is I refuse now to fly economy any longer than a couple of hours. The lay flat business class seats are lovely. I enjoy the pampering by the service to but it isn't why I fly business its being able to sleep properly.
That is how I can arrive after a flight and not feel any problems at all.
It's better when you do it in first class/business class. Economy on a 19 hour flight might be a nightmare.
Who can afford business class without a corporate backer?
DIV DEVOE can’t even imagine
I mean that's part of the reason why flights like Newark-Singapore doesn't have economy class onboard. Economy passengers would of course want to relax a bit in a layover, adjust as they go, and relax a bit. These flights are of course mostly geared towards businessmen wanting to save time.
I don’t think there even is an economy class is these flights
@@basspig using frequent flyer points and planning, you end up spending 200-500 more than a normal flight. Its not that hard really.
The only thing it’ll teach you is jetlag is not a problem when you have money to fly Business or 1st class
Racing Games Casual Gameplays it definitely still is lol.
Racing These sunshine flights will NOT be economy flights !!!
It is buddy. I know people that had fly between Europe, the US and Asia and it can be rough. They all have their ways of dealing with jet lag.
Imagine economy class, full of people, doing yoga for 6hrs. Yeah, right.
It all helps to relax those sphincters! Economy class air just became chewable instead of breathable.
Sounava Ghosh it probably won’t have an economy class like that of other planes... it would be like how Singapore airlines have for their route from Singapore to Newark, just business class and premium economy
Marketing gimmicks. That’s all I could say.
@@lianseldou Yeah what a waste of time and jet fuel
@@davebrown6552 Economy class has been getting worse not better. Airlines try an add more seats continuously
I’m just proud Qantas is doing this, yay Australia!
I really like this reporter, he seems to enjoy his job. Seen a couple of his mini documentaries now.
My military transportation flight from Anchorage , Alaska to Saigon , Vietnam was 19 hours !
Enjoy your premium food and leg space up in business class ... while the rest of us are stuck in economy with no leg room basic food and screaming kids . Big difference pal
yeah they act like it’s all surprising that they arent tired but they are all in business class... anyone could survive a 19hr flight in business
@@xXTheDerpXx yeah besides if the Singapore-Newark flight is anything to go by then these ultra lon flights won't have economy class onboard. Again these flights are primarily for business travelers wanting to get to their destination the fastest by whatever means possible. Any sane economy passenger going that far would take at least one layover along the way.
@@drdewott9154 any smart person would take a layover I agree haha
J R plenty of economy passengers fly up to 17.5 hours at the moment. And most think it’s much better than a layover. The extra 2 hours flight time isn’t going to reduce the amount of economy passengers to zero. They’ve done lots of market research on this and have said that there is market demand for economy travel, as well as premium, business and first.
You’re likely not in the target market for this sort of flight. That’s fine. There are other options for you. But as long as the plane is 90% full every day with people who actually prefer this, Qantas won’t go chasing your business
DrDewott Singapore airlines does have economy class. They call it premium economy. Not full class business.
For extra long flights, planes should not have seats, but sleeping pods.
The seats in economy don't recline enough to sleep
How about Qantas look after their customers and take some seats out
Yea just make rows of bunk beds like 3 high.
Planes should have whatever people are willing to pay for. Nothing is free. It would be nice to have pods on long or short haul flights, but there's no business case for that because most people aren't willing to spend thousands of dollars more for them.
Event for America-Europe flights, this should be it. This would be sooo much easier for everyone.
@Jeff Keeth How is being horizontal taking more space than being seated? You can easily stack 4 people in top of each other in a horizontal position, and can have many people in a row.
For the WSJ writer: This is great stuff for sure, and Qantas deserves to be commended for paying attention to safety and passenger considerations on these (commercially) unprecedented flights. To complement your reporting, it's worth noting the US Air Force has been systematically studying and doing (very) long-duration flying for decades, and there's quite a body of knowledge out there about sleep/rest cycles, crew alertness, inflight nutrition & hydrations, preparation, recovery, and the like. Thanks for highlighting some of the issues associated with being above earth for a long time!
I physically can’t sleep in a economy seat so if I take that flight I’m done.
Farris FcBrian there’s no economy class in ultra long haul flights
Shevan gomis They probably have premium economy it’s better but doesn’t go flat
@@shevangomis6432 yes there is LOL
Carl it’s premium economy and not the standard economy class
@@shevangomis6432 there is economy for 13h long flights
I can't wait for them to do the research on Economy class passengers, since these people flew in business... also, I am so excited that they will provide pajamas and a fitness class for everybody on board!!!
Pretty certain this is business class only - no current planes could fly that distance with a full load of economy passengers
benrgrogan no they intend to operate with 4 classes. Hence why they are doing these research flights
@@tim_f_jones I stand corrected although it seems from what I've just read from Qantas and Airbus, it will be very different from standard economy - the plane will carry fewer than 150 passengers
Looks like you don't understand much!
I'm pretty sure they won't even have economy class just because it's that long. Singapore airlines did a similar long haul flight from NYC to Singapore, they only have an economy premium which has slightly bigger seats and more comfortable. Plus the economy class for international flights is much more comfortable than domestic ones
My wife and I recently flew from Dallas to Sydney which was a 17 hour flight, of course we couldn’t afford first class. Flying coach vs first class is a very different experience. The seating on these planes are way to tight for flights this long. It was the worst 17 hours of our lives.
I've done the auckland to Doha flight 3 times. And it drains you... Been in business class too but you just get the urge to get off the plane asap
If you’re going to test, fill half of the economy class and make everyone sit right next to each other.
And try to eat while the seat infront you is reclined those are the worst...
@@eliteclassicdetailing Will they do more tests? Probably, but if they're going to do a real test it's not going to be people sitting in first or in the business class. A real test would probably be the first few flights filled with actual passengers. These test with barely anyone inside was hardly a test of long haul passenger behaviors.
I’m a Flight Attendant and this flight would still be so hard! Schedule or not.
i flew Sq002 Prem Economy- big mistake, felt so constrained.
When in Economy I walk around more.
Please do this Qantas!! I will definitely buy a ticket and so will all these people! I know you're reading this because it's already super popular!! See??
Whenever they do these type of videos, they always do it from a business class seat! Like dude, anybody can do a 19 hour flight when you're laying in luxury and being served premium meals.......show us this in Economy so we'll really see what jetlag is!
db60615 These sunrise flights will not be an economy flight !!! business and first class !! ! Pay attention !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 Honey did you not read what I wrote? Are you paying attention???
lol try 19 hours in economy like the rest of us mortals
They didn't plan to offer any Economy class ticket. That's why that research is not conducted.
Financial These long distance sunrise flights will not be economy flights !!! DUUUUUHH!!!!!
Is there really a challenge to survive a 19 hours flight when you are seating in a bed and treated with some actual quality food?
Not at all. I got a resonable price this year and flew Business Class on Emirates A380 between Auckland and Dubai (17 hours). I just relaxed and enjoyed the flight and it was over before I knew it. If anyone thinks a long haul flight in Business Class is a challenge, then their life must be VERY easy.
👍 Thanks, Scott! Great info, as usual! 😎
I like the idea of making flight sleep times match the destination time. Why don't they always do that? Great idea!
I flew 17 hrs nonstop San Fran. To Dubai. In coach. It is miserable and dangerous. Sitting that long even with restroom breaks Causes loss of circulation in legs and buttocks. It is painful. Business and first class. No problem. You can lay down.
I am so proud of our national airline, Qantas. The most profitable airline in the world. The oldest commercial airline in the world (100 years in 2020). The only airline in the world to have never crashed an aircraft and now it will be the first airline in the world to fly 20 hours non-stop without destroying passengers or aircrew.
It pays its cabin crew and pilots really well, it still does its heavy maintenence after a disasterous experiment with the Phillippines a few years ago.
So we Australian who fly to the US, Canada and direct to Chile regularly, 14+ hours anyway, 20 is just a bit more. But for those with a bit of time, a stop in Hawaii or New Zealand is always nice. I'd much prefer that.
I mean it was on business class 🤔
Alonso T a friggin joke
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much!
@@malahammer Yes, but the research flight is designed to think of ways to provide the whole plane to keep people comfortable. It would be impossible to have all of the economy passengers doing the Macarena in the middle of the plane.
@@-TJ- There is no economy on ultra long range flights
The fact that they are in business class already makes a huge difference to your well being when you arrive at your destination
As a regular Qantas passenger and platinum frequent flier, I've traveled in all classes on long haul flights. The journalist here was in business class: that's a no brainer. It's doable. Premium economy would be hard, but doable. Economy class on the Qantas Dreamliners, frankly, would be brutal. I've done London to Sydney via Singapore in economy, and it takes you out for days. I wonder what the acceptable health outcome levels Qantas is willing to take on.
Do it in economy! Business class is easier to sleep and relax lol
There would be a riot after about 11 hours 😂
This is why I believe we need a Concorde again. SST is a great way to reduce these things and when a large portion of the flight would be over the ocean, travelling over Mach 2 would be great in reducing jet lag and time spent on the plane in general.
LONDON TO SYDNEY! You can do it, guys!
Flew from New Delhi to Vancouver 13.5 hrs non stop. Slept 12 hrs in flight. Bless my parents for giving me sleep as a curse/blessing.
In my career in the Military I have flown to the Far East, and Europe many times and to the Middle East once. Jet Lag? We had no time for jet lag; once we deplaned and transported to our assembly area we got down to the business we came for.
As for our transportation for our trip, if it was Military we Sardine packed. If it was commercial charter the seating was no leg room for anyone over 5 foot 10 inch. Sleep in flight was the recommended way to pass the time because we would be up and on duty for up to thirty hours after arrival. The longest flight was 23 hours from the West coast USA to Vietnam with two refueling stops and no deplaning, no walking about on board.
Ah! To have the luxury of jet lag.
Nice work Qantas.
WSJ: How badly do pilots land after 19 hours of autopilot, reheated meals and the Macarena?
Qantas: Yes
I have never in my life taken a dump on a plane. Would I need to on a 19 hr flight?
well, if you take a dump at the airport just before boarding the plane you won't have to i think...
I have never shitted on a airplane I just don’t ever have the urge and I usually fast when traveling I eat crackers mostly and plenty of fluids . Plus I always felt like if I shitted on a plane they would land the plane due to emergency because I would of blew it up !!!
19 hour flight, just about enough for a LOTR marathon :-)
Wow so if you have a close to 24h flight, then you don't have jetlag? That is mindblowing. It should hail nobel prizes for that!
How about a straight 1 whole day flight
19 hrs is i think* same as a day
sagun khadka 24 hours is a day
I don’t think there are two points on earth that can’t be reached by flight in at least 24 hours. Maybe New York to Perth?
How about I sit on a pole. Probably feels just as terrible
@@DCONightingale Auckland To London is 24 hours if it was Non Stop
I spent 17 of my 41 years in that industry flying long-haul flights, and I find it interesting that they didn't talk about the radiation health concerns of flying that long at those flight levels. It's a fact that in some countries long-haul flight crews are considered "radiation" workers, must wear exposure badges and can be limited to how many of those flights they can take. The increase in radiation exposure as you increase altitude is not linear. The difference in exposure between a flight a 31,000 feet as compared to 41,000 feet is very significant! Also, it's a bit comical having only 50 people on that "test" flight - plenty of room to move around. How easy do you think it's going to be getting 300 passengers to stand up and do the Macarena?
Did the 19.5 hour flight from Singapore to New York. Can’t complain because it was business class and the service was amazing. Also, the SIA seats are much better than the Qantas ones. 😅
Basically on non-stop flights to Tokyo, I do not sleep at all. If I do not work on my jet lag it takes me a month to convert to Tokyo time. If I work on it I can be significantly better in one week. 1st I begin taking melatonin coinciding with the new time, a few days before the flight. We arrive late in the day, and being sleep deprived, I manage to sleep the first night. It is extra helpful to sleep in a room with a temperature below 68 degrees Fahrenheit. During the day for at least the first week, I wake when the sun goes up and get outside. Exercise really helps especially exercise in daylight. Of course I continue taking melatonin. Reading before going to bed also helps. Alcohol, especially before going to bed does not help at all. Caffeine or caffeinated drinks, several hours before bedtime, do not help. Do not take naps unless that was what you were used to before. If you feel the need, it is better to get outside and go for a walk.
Im flying to australia next year in july. I have a 6 hour flight from Düsseldorf to Dubai and then a 14 hour flight from Dubai to Sydney. Ill make use of these tips. Wish me luck.
It s good you idea if you flight first class with all that comfort things. But i can't imagine how it is possible to spend 19 hrs in the stand or sit position. And don't forget about couple hours which you spent in departure airport.
It is madness. Qantas - you're crazy.
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much!
@@malahammer looks like you're Mr. Smartass
The longest flight I've been was from Abu Dhabi to Chicago for 11 hours in Economy Class.. Felt sick 🤮 and took me 1 week to recover from Jetlag.
This guy was in business class..
Cool!
Big things are: cabin pressure, home (mathematical average bi-monthly elevation saturation) (Above Sea Level) ASL, and destination elevation ASL. The first couple days are generically spoken to be the down, with a typical rapid recovery and elevation acclimation...
just sayin’
They better have Netflix on board.
Qantas is also trialing a direct flight from Sydney to London in a couple months which would be 22 hours long
Great video. One complaint: fix your audio. One moment its a little quiet and the next the speaker is screaming in my ear.
I really hope these flights don't become the norm. They use waaaay more fule than a normal 1 stop flight, because you have to carry a lot of extra fuel. And to carry that extra fuel you have to use extra fuel. I think you get my point..
I'm a student who studies in New York and lives in Sydney so I've made this trip almost a dozen times.
A few things I have to say -
Firstly, the people in this video were seated in business class, and therefore had the luxury of comfort, which makes it easier to sleep. You also don't have to be awoken by anyone who needs to use the bathroom, and you're able to lean your seat back more, which is impossible in economy.
Secondly, not everyone has the luxury to afford direct flights, and some people need to book layovers in multiple countries just so they can reduce their fare price. I've been to Japan and New Zealand multiple times, and once even had the option to go through Hawaii for a total 35+ hour trip time (which I did not select). Usually I'll need at least 2-3 layovers, one before LAX/SFO and one after, before Newark/LGA/JFK, which can last anywhere from 2-6 hours.
My worst trip was from New York to Sydney a couple years ago, and due to bad weather conditions, the first flight was delayed by a couple of hours, and so I missed the layover (which I had accounted for). They made me stay in the airport for another 24 hours to catch the next flight, so I had to uncomfortably and embarrassingly live and sleep on the chairs in the waiting areas, and try and survive off the expensive airport food. The worst part of this was that the next flight out was on the night of the 24th of December, and due to how international time zones work, I landed on the 26th of December in Sydney.
I literally did not experience Christmas at all that year.
I can't stand Christmas. Maybe I will do that next Christmas!
I remember in the Army getting deployed. We flew out of Biggs Airfield. We take off to Maine then to Kuwait where we arrive at 0 hr. bus to camp Buring. by 6 AM we get breakfast go to the PX back to the tent and crash out till about 6 PM eat dinner crash out that night up by 6 AM. Jet lag cured.
When I came home I almost thought I was going to die of jet lag.
The first time I had jet lag, I had to work later that day. It was an experience I'll never repeat. I'll always schedule a day off. It was like being dead, but still alive enough to experience it.
I do understand everyone's comments that it must be relatively easy to handle 19 hours in business or first class, but I will say I am always amazed that a two engine plane (the Boeing 787-9) can do that
I just came back from Doha and arrived in Perth it took 11 hours, to be honest the best thing to overcome jet lag in my opinion is be active like really active
New York to Sydney
Somewhere over the ocean
“Ladies and gentelman this is your captain speaking we have just run out of food and beverages. Don’t worry, it’s only 15 more hours to our landing in Sydney.”
I have regularly taken 14 hour flights from Toronto to qatar and uae in economy class . Its not that bad . Another 5 hour is doable
19 hours 16 minutes is very long but there are already non stop flight over 17 hours and from what I heard about this flight is that only had 17 minutes of fuel remaining. The plane also had only a handful of passengers and no baggage so this flight will not be possible with a normal weighted airplane. Still an amazing achievement.
I am taking a 16 hr and 45 min flight on Thursday from NYC to Manila. I did 15 hours in economy once before. It is tough but there are ways to deal with it.
Having done lot of 15-16 hour trips in economy from middle east to Lax, I don't mind another 3/4 hours. Anyday better than off boarding, security chex, waiting at airport, and finally onboarding again.
Guys, they don't plan to offer economy class ticket that's why the test isn't in the economy class. Most Ultra Long Haul flight didn't offer it as well
those people are talking about the economy class, I have the only thing to say them "PEOPLE'S THIS IS NOT THE ECONOMY CHANNEL TO WATCH THIS IS "WALL STREET JOURNAL", and the name itself says MONEY, so why they fly in economy ask a question by yourself"
Great video. ☺️ A family friend of mine told me about this. ☺️
I once flew Cape Town to Dubai(9.5hrs), had a ten hour layover, then flew from Dubai to Melbourne (14.5 hrs), sat in Melbourne for about and hour, and then flew from Melbourne to Auckland (5hrs). Took me nearly two days.
I was in NZ for about a week and a half and by the time I recovered it was time to fly home 😂.
i once flew from LA to London, 14 hours, got jet lagged going east, never westbound, very weird!!! even on NY to LA flights or Vice Versa!
Michael Loder This is a common phenomena. Keep going West if possible👍
What time were your flights? Jet lag impacts you hardest when you start out tired. For me, if the fight starts out in the morning or just after I get up, I feel good for hours and can handle the location and time change when I arrive. If it's a night flight, it's hard to sleep on the plane, my clock is messed up the entire flight, and when I arrive in different timezone and location, it's all the worse. It can take me a week to adjust.
In the end, Qantas may just end up with the 777-8. That plane, when equipped with Business and Premium Economy seating only (limiting the load to 250 passengers), could make the flight between London and Sydney non-stop possible.
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I live in Sydney and Ive been waiting for a direct flight to NYC. I cant Stand 12hr flight from Syd to LA then another 6 hours from LA to NYC... its exhausting escpecially how confusing LAX is.
Wow thats one heck of a long way none stop and alot of ocean bet that flight felt like an eternity
I have a simpler solution to this: increase at least three times the speed of planes.
You better give everybody a big seat that reclines! I'm not flying 19 hours with a seat of only 17 inches clearance to the seat in front of me!
5.13 I feel great!
Had that feeling many time after flights mate, give it a couple of hours and you will feel terrible, guaranteed!
Guys, this 19 hours direct flight are to meant to offer alternative to 30 hours flights with transits. It's meant for people who pays more, so this plane has no economy class.
This is really important I can not understand why airlines did not do things like that even for 8 or 12 hour flights.
Going west is usually easier than going east. I'd like to see the results of the going east leg of this journey
No....the Qantas Perth/London flight going west takes 17hrs 45min while the London/Perth flight going east takes 16hrs 45min.
@@AUmarcus I'm speaking of jet lag and its effect on human beings
If they reconfigure the cabin it'll work. More room for all. 👍🏾
Hey, it’s the Quantum of the Seas! Special cameo.
They should do this research on a ryan air flight
Love the thick Irish accent on your man talking in the suit, classic stuff, good man
Why no aerobridge at Sidney Airport when passengers disembarked?
Did they test anyone sitting in coach or just premium travelers? All stupid comments will be ignored.
No one cares about the comfort of the cattle-class.
just obese
Usually this kind of extra long-haul flights are Business and first-class only. They are more expensive than regular flights (carring all the fuel in one go mostly), what gets paid whitout much problem by bussines travellers, since their time its expensive to companies, but regular turists normally are more sensitive to cost than time.
As for your "all stupid comments will be ignored" dude no one cares. You're not an authority on flights so that we have to deserve your approval.
@@MottaGroove Actually I've been on long haul flights to South Korea with all cabins filled. I sat in coach most of the time but got lucky one return trip and was upgraded to business class. Business class was awesome! Not quite nineteen hours (i've done 18 hours on military planes) but still seems like forever while sitting in coach.
add in the regular hour delay,, going through customs and picking up luggage and you have yourself a solid day!
Personalised jetlag solutions: what vital work you do
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What was the joke? How is this comment funny?
great informationen
New York to Nairobi Kenya 14.50
Hours I did for times it’s little bit hard. If you are in first class it’s easy but in the middle class with no space that sucks
Try London to Sydney next!
Coming in a couple of months.
4:09 good to know that dancing the Macarena is one of the secrets for surviving to a 19 hour flight
There is already a Delhi to San Fransico flight which is 12,341 km
So 50-ish passengers: hardly an economic service.
ULH flights are only preminum econamy (3 times the eco price) and business (up to 10 times the eco price). They are targeting a specific customer base
@@FlightX101 Yes, I understand that (I work for an airline). It's just that small segments are rarely sustainable.
Congratulations yur Dream.
I came in this flight.. didn’t feel much different..just sleep eat sleep .. Nd landed in Sydney after 19 hours..