You were on 38? I think? When the rude Titan smacked you. Also run this with perp motion and harmony. Pair it with my perp/snap 1k stare. Pretty fun. Doesn’t hold a candle to my high cal/range finder borrowed time.
@SayWallahBruh Lmao ninja Titan. UA-cam app being dumb and won’t let me edit my comment. Rewatched and you were on 39 I’m pretty positive. Counting hard.
This is one of the best weapons in the game in terms of sound design, aesthetic, and sight picture but the mag size and zoom absolutely neuter this weapon
it is, i absolutely hate how underperforming it is. Its IMO one of the best SMGs in the game cosmetic and just general feel, just wished it stacked up more in stats, especially as an aggressive frame
It's such a shame the weapon doesn't perform too well or doesn't have too many interesting perks, it looks amazing, the scope is clean and the sound is immaculate, would love to have a reason to run it more often.
i miss last years cold front. the roll that i have WAS... HAMMER FORGED, DROP MAG/ACURIZED, DRAGON FLY!!!!!!! and RAMPAGE....... IDK why they took out dragon fly... it was on a kinetic and i wish they would of just switched it to FIREFLY instead of putting in SURPLUS...it was a weapon that was WORTH grinding the dawning for....
I love this gun especially in pve. I've been using it since last Christmas event. But 1 thing is I don't like the vertical diamond sight. Unfortunately the best roll I got back then, came with that sight lol.... but I got the same roll this year with the horizontal diamond. I like it more than mutli.
I commented this somewhere else earlier but Cold Front is my favorite kinetic SMG for PvE. I do wish it had overflow or just more ammo in the mag. I got a roll earlier that is Small bore, accurized rounds, Quickdraw or perpetual motion, Thresh or Harmony but it has a stability MW. I think its going to be the closest to a PvP god roll I will get. The reason I like this gun is just because I think it looks really nice. Also the dawning was my first D2 event and it was just something special. The dawning is my favorite event in general but it feels like they put a lot of work into the dawning over other events. The tower environment is nice. The weapon models are all incredible except of avalanche its just like a generic LMG. I mean go look at the model for glacioclasm its incredibly detailed and just looks good. The shaders are nice. The cookie idea is interesting but the grinding kinda sucks. I wish we didn't have to get dawning essence but whatever. The weapon ornaments are alright the armor ornaments are hideous but it fits the dawning. Its weird but I love it.
I've been running it with perpetual motion and swash buckler with my perpetual motion and golden tricorn matador. I'm absolutely zooming with my peacekeepers or dunes.
This is my issue with almost every smg. They really could use an overall buff to mag sizes imo. I love the tarrabah but same issue tbh and I really want that smg buffed and with a new catalyst would be great
@@rickiboulter3053 Tarrabah is a complete menace in the crucible already, I don't think it really needs a buff given that you can basically kill someone in like .2 seconds.
As the first comment said that's my problem with smgs in general in d2 since the start. Plus you have to fight the recoil so much (on console btw) that by the time you get on target the you have to reload and barely tickled anything.
Doesn’t seem to matter the weapons you kill lol. Just mentioning : for Titian load outs try The Heart of Inmost light. With the ability nerfs it is really good , plus you got the gun game locked down so trying this would probably give you some fun with your abilities.
I have this roll with perpetual motion and swashbuckler and perpetual motion on this thing is amazing! It operates in last word range if not a bit farther but it's absolutely lethal in its range.
Running this with a harmony Shayura's on a Peacekeepers titan and the level of relentlessness double harmony gives you on autoloading SMGs and a movement exotic is just insane
I pair this with the new trace rifle both with harmony and subsistance turns easy mode on because as soon as you get the first kill you'll forever have damage buffs
I wish this was the gun to be able to carry on the feel of antiope-D, since it has been sadly sunset. And is by far my favorite gun but I can’t really use it as it would be worthless in light enabled games.
I have a perpetual motion one for all roll, it slaps super hard in pvp! It’s like a kinetic tarrabah and I usually use it with a sniper of some sort. Highly recommend it. If you don’t use snipers, I recommend a bow or a scout rifle.
I like this SMG but the whole thing about Zoom being so important on SMGs is actually stupid. Bungie, buff the SMGs to base 15 Zoom and we'll be happy (MIDA would actually be decent)
It's actually super weird that they gave Cold Front a gunsight that LOOKS like the SC Holo (the original Antiope god scope), but it gives +0 Zoom instead of +4, so the gun is stuck at smg base 13 Zoom. It's actually odd because all other fixed-scope weapons like Scathelocke, Legal Action II, etc all have the proper zoom bonus for the scope that is visibly mounted. It's almost as if Cold Front should have been (or was ALMOST) a top meta SMG, but an oversight or glitch has left it floundering.
When this smg originally came out, it rolled with dragonfly which was a “mistake” on bungies part. Bungie ended up fixing it but while it lasted it was so much fun in pve
Hey @SayWallah im a new player to destiny and i got a roll on this smg with: 1: Arrowhead Brake or Polygonal Rifling 2: Alloy Magazine or Flared Magwell 3: Quickdraw 4: Rampage is this a good roll or should i try ti get a better one?
I’d use my feeding frenzy/KC roll I got last Dawning but it has -279 stability and cannot be used for anything other than a paper weight or holding doors open.
I have the exact same roll but with harmony. It's great, genuinely. Quick charge on your preffered shotty or fusion rifle, get a kill and melt the next guy
Wallah, try an Extraordinary Rendition, it’s much better. It’s got 15 base zoom so can reach just under 22m at max range. It’s easily farmable from the Helm Chosen Implements option.
Damn, what was that, a 38 or 39 kill streak? And you got... A LITTLE nervous?! Nice job. I used to use the Cold Front back when it first came out in like 2019 or something. Back then, I didn't like SMGs for some reason. I tried out the Cold Front anyway, and I loved it. No idea why. Today I use a ton of SMGs though, so I guess I only have this gun to thank. I even run double SMGs + Peacekeepers on Titan fairly often in PvP, it's a lot of fun.
Perpetual motion and swash is a good comment. I havent played pvp since the event dropped, but i want to use it. My pve roll is subsistance rampage or swash in the extra perk
I always thought that shotgun rushers and shatterdive was cringe, but I experienced a new level of toxicity yesterday. I was trying to run a different build from what I usually do and I ran into a full team of sweats that didn’t cap any zones so they could just farm kills. Because they didn’t cap the zones they didn’t mercy us and I matched into them again the next game. I really thought about deleting the game. It hurt me even more cuz I knew that they were actually good at the game but they still chose to ruin peoples day.
man I would be ok with this gun if it was Stasis. makes sense it would be. I like the look of it too just makes no sense to use when it is massively outclassed by Multimach and Extraordinary Rendition
It's not that great but the good thing going for it it's that it is really easy to get a bunch of these with a good chance that it has the perks combination that you want if you have both present upgrades from Eva.
Being fucked by playing against someone who knows how to not die to an SMG is a big limitation though, I'd have to say. Coincidentally "Being fucked because I'm playing against someone who knows how to not die" is the title of my Crucible memoirs.
You were on 38? I think? When the rude Titan smacked you.
Also run this with perp motion and harmony. Pair it with my perp/snap 1k stare. Pretty fun. Doesn’t hold a candle to my high cal/range finder borrowed time.
Silent titan slam
@SayWallahBruh
Lmao ninja Titan. UA-cam app being dumb and won’t let me edit my comment. Rewatched and you were on 39 I’m pretty positive. Counting hard.
Ah, I was one off, damn it XD GG
I counted 39 but I could be off.
Ben Stanfill
I think it was too but the YT app wouldn’t let me edit my comment lmao.
Accidently dismantled my Cold front back when the last Dawning ended. Glad it's back :)
It was bad last dawning you fine
This is one of the best weapons in the game in terms of sound design, aesthetic, and sight picture but the mag size and zoom absolutely neuter this weapon
it is, i absolutely hate how underperforming it is. Its IMO one of the best SMGs in the game cosmetic and just general feel, just wished it stacked up more in stats, especially as an aggressive frame
It legit has the least stability of any weapon I’ve ever seen lol.
It's such a shame the weapon doesn't perform too well or doesn't have too many interesting perks, it looks amazing, the scope is clean and the sound is immaculate, would love to have a reason to run it more often.
i was hoping for a 750 antiope and got a 750 atalanta-d lmao
Agree wallah here has away of making the worst weapons look godly kinda makes me jelly lol
It's pretty fun in PvE at least, but smgs don't have a champion mod this season ;-;
@@OkamiAmaterasu. hoping for overload or smth next season, bungie pls no pistols.
@@bolotniy Just get an Extraordinary Rendition with Overload. It’s got 15 base zoom so way better and easy to get from the Helm.
Cold Front is IMO the best feeling smg for PvE content,. One for all and Surplus with the Häkke sight just feels amazing.
i miss last years cold front. the roll that i have WAS... HAMMER FORGED, DROP MAG/ACURIZED, DRAGON FLY!!!!!!! and RAMPAGE....... IDK why they took out dragon fly... it was on a kinetic and i wish they would of just switched it to FIREFLY instead of putting in SURPLUS...it was a weapon that was WORTH grinding the dawning for....
I love this gun especially in pve. I've been using it since last Christmas event. But 1 thing is I don't like the vertical diamond sight. Unfortunately the best roll I got back then, came with that sight lol.... but I got the same roll this year with the horizontal diamond. I like it more than mutli.
I commented this somewhere else earlier but Cold Front is my favorite kinetic SMG for PvE. I do wish it had overflow or just more ammo in the mag. I got a roll earlier that is Small bore, accurized rounds, Quickdraw or perpetual motion, Thresh or Harmony but it has a stability MW. I think its going to be the closest to a PvP god roll I will get.
The reason I like this gun is just because I think it looks really nice. Also the dawning was my first D2 event and it was just something special. The dawning is my favorite event in general but it feels like they put a lot of work into the dawning over other events. The tower environment is nice. The weapon models are all incredible except of avalanche its just like a generic LMG. I mean go look at the model for glacioclasm its incredibly detailed and just looks good. The shaders are nice. The cookie idea is interesting but the grinding kinda sucks. I wish we didn't have to get dawning essence but whatever. The weapon ornaments are alright the armor ornaments are hideous but it fits the dawning. Its weird but I love it.
My favorite PvE SMG as well!! Surplus rampage feels so sweet, I love it. LOL
Hi again x9
Gotta reccommend Extraordinary Rendition from season of the Chosen. Overflow + Frenzy is just crazy in PvE imo
I've been running it with perpetual motion and swash buckler with my perpetual motion and golden tricorn matador. I'm absolutely zooming with my peacekeepers or dunes.
same, perpetual motion is sick on this gun
I want to like the Cold Front so bad, but the main issue is the mag size. HOLY SHIT, you run out of bullets before you can kill someone with it.
This is my issue with almost every smg. They really could use an overall buff to mag sizes imo. I love the tarrabah but same issue tbh and I really want that smg buffed and with a new catalyst would be great
@@rickiboulter3053 Tarrabah is a complete menace in the crucible already, I don't think it really needs a buff given that you can basically kill someone in like .2 seconds.
@@imlivinginyourceiling tarrabah is so good it’s awesome
@@imlivinginyourceiling nah bruh it's horrible on console needs a stability buff 100% at the least
As the first comment said that's my problem with smgs in general in d2 since the start. Plus you have to fight the recoil so much (on console btw) that by the time you get on target the you have to reload and barely tickled anything.
Doesn’t seem to matter the weapons you kill lol. Just mentioning : for Titian load outs try The Heart of Inmost light. With the ability nerfs it is really good , plus you got the gun game locked down so trying this would probably give you some fun with your abilities.
especially with 1 shot lightning nades 👀
i wish cold front didn’t suck so much on controller. i miss antiope :(
Love the vids man. Do you think Matador with the correct roll will be top tier?? Like for a shot gun for hunters?
this man running a smg on hunter instead of chad crayon muncher titan
The 9 damage edit had me in stitches. As a peacekeeper smg main I know that feel all too well 🤣
I needed a quickdraw rampage roll to pare up with fighting lion and Im honestly really happy with it
screw the smg that shotty lookin valid 🥵
I have this roll with perpetual motion and swashbuckler and perpetual motion on this thing is amazing! It operates in last word range if not a bit farther but it's absolutely lethal in its range.
Definitely my favourite d2 content creator atm
Running this with a harmony Shayura's on a Peacekeepers titan and the level of relentlessness double harmony gives you on autoloading SMGs and a movement exotic is just insane
It works really well in pve as far as I’ve seen. Rampage and surplus, especially since I tend to hold onto my abilities
I pair this with the new trace rifle both with harmony and subsistance turns easy mode on because as soon as you get the first kill you'll forever have damage buffs
I wish this was the gun to be able to carry on the feel of antiope-D, since it has been sadly sunset.
And is by far my favorite gun but I can’t really use it as it would be worthless in light enabled games.
I have a perpetual motion one for all roll, it slaps super hard in pvp! It’s like a kinetic tarrabah and I usually use it with a sniper of some sort. Highly recommend it. If you don’t use snipers, I recommend a bow or a scout rifle.
You're so good at this game Mr. Bruh
If that Cold Front had 15 Zoom base it'd have 22 meters. MIDA would have 14.2 meters with 15 zoom (BUNGIE BUFF THE GOD DAMN GUN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE)
I like this SMG but the whole thing about Zoom being so important on SMGs is actually stupid. Bungie, buff the SMGs to base 15 Zoom and we'll be happy (MIDA would actually be decent)
Hope you’re having a good day man:)
"He just ate his nade" had me dying for 5 min
i want to love this smg but its outclassed by the extra ordinary rendition. which is the direct competitor to this gun, its also a 750 smg
6:35 "He's one shot." funniest shit I've ever heard
It's actually super weird that they gave Cold Front a gunsight that LOOKS like the SC Holo (the original Antiope god scope), but it gives +0 Zoom instead of +4, so the gun is stuck at smg base 13 Zoom.
It's actually odd because all other fixed-scope weapons like Scathelocke, Legal Action II, etc all have the proper zoom bonus for the scope that is visibly mounted.
It's almost as if Cold Front should have been (or was ALMOST) a top meta SMG, but an oversight or glitch has left it floundering.
The last 50 streak I got was like, 2 years ago.
Subsistence rampage would fix your problem with that gun?
Im sad because i used to have a rangefinder roll on it and I accidentally dismantled it around 6 weeks ago
When this smg originally came out, it rolled with dragonfly which was a “mistake” on bungies part. Bungie ended up fixing it but while it lasted it was so much fun in pve
that wasn't whenever it came out that was just last year lmao
you should try extraordinary rendition same archtype just abit more range and it can get overflow so more bullets
The edits are coming along. Can't wait to see what they're like in a month
I like the look cuz it looks like an irl smg. Kinda wish the mag was bigger but its a nice grab to mess around with.
My outlaw, KC got sunset many moons ago, and that thing was hardcore
I will say it is also decent for pve, but honestly there are already a couple of better options as in the Extrodinary Rendition and Ikelos SMG
3:37 bro that throwing knife hit the wall right in front of you. The wall 3 inches away
@6:28 what was that sound effect?? lol
Whenever Wallah starts one of these videos by saying the gun isn't good, I KNOW the gun is actually gonna be good and he's gonna go on like 100 streak
I struggle to get one kill. Are your bullets better than mine?
"Really great knife, did i get him?" lmaoo
The ikelos with seraph rounds is the goat when it comes to 720rpm smgs
Hey @SayWallah
im a new player to destiny and i got a roll on this smg with:
1: Arrowhead Brake or Polygonal Rifling
2: Alloy Magazine or Flared Magwell
3: Quickdraw
4: Rampage
is this a good roll or should i try ti get a better one?
I’d use my feeding frenzy/KC roll I got last Dawning but it has -279 stability and cannot be used for anything other than a paper weight or holding doors open.
You can make anything look broken man gg🤪
I love the christmas antiope
I have the exact same roll but with harmony. It's great, genuinely. Quick charge on your preffered shotty or fusion rifle, get a kill and melt the next guy
Wallah, try an Extraordinary Rendition, it’s much better. It’s got 15 base zoom so can reach just under 22m at max range. It’s easily farmable from the Helm Chosen Implements option.
I do have a roll with harmony which is nice but I’d still rather use an extraordinary rendition or a multimach
@3:36 that throwing knife might get em? 😂 Sure
Remember when this could get dragonfly? Had a couple that turned into swashbuckler
Oh my goodness that is a god roll found verdict 🔥🔥💯💯
Hows the Third Leg
Would ya try a atalanta-d from black forge?
“Really good throwing knife might get him” hahahah
It’s extremely good for pve but pvp I tried it and took it off after the first game
3:36 really good throwing knife it might get them XD
The only roll I've kept so far is dynamic/swashbuckler..not bad in pve..if only it had a somewhat decent mag size..
Damn, what was that, a 38 or 39 kill streak? And you got... A LITTLE nervous?!
Nice job. I used to use the Cold Front back when it first came out in like 2019 or something. Back then, I didn't like SMGs for some reason. I tried out the Cold Front anyway, and I loved it. No idea why. Today I use a ton of SMGs though, so I guess I only have this gun to thank. I even run double SMGs + Peacekeepers on Titan fairly often in PvP, it's a lot of fun.
Just got the exact same roll. I was hoping there would be good, but it definitely feels meh.
Good ol’ double adjective Wallah
35 unassisted kills
its the only kinetic smg that has harmony so thats nice
Hits like ikelos in pvp
I'm guessing that Titan lagged real hard because there was no activation sound and he was just _there_
Perpetual motion and swash is a good comment. I havent played pvp since the event dropped, but i want to use it.
My pve roll is subsistance rampage or swash in the extra perk
Get perpetual Motion and Harmony. It replaced my Multi Mach and Shayura’s as my new main PvP smg.
You went years without a 50 streak and then almost get 2 in a week and a half!!
I have faith in your gaming that you will get that 50 kill streak. ggs to you
I got dynamic sway reduction and harmony not bad tbh
I always thought that shotgun rushers and shatterdive was cringe, but I experienced a new level of toxicity yesterday. I was trying to run a different build from what I usually do and I ran into a full team of sweats that didn’t cap any zones so they could just farm kills. Because they didn’t cap the zones they didn’t mercy us and I matched into them again the next game. I really thought about deleting the game. It hurt me even more cuz I knew that they were actually good at the game but they still chose to ruin peoples day.
So counting the assists,you had 43 kills. Nice.
YT notifications didn't tell me you hearted my comment, and now I'm sad.
Counted 38 kills with 4 assists. Great vids man!
man I would be ok with this gun if it was Stasis. makes sense it would be. I like the look of it too just makes no sense to use when it is massively outclassed by Multimach and Extraordinary Rendition
even with rangefinder it wasn't better than antiope because of the recoil direction being so abysmal
Nothing better than my God roll Multichad
The mag size really puts me off SMGs in Destiny - even with the slower firerate archetype I'm wanting at least 40 per mag or a much faster reload.
It's not that great but the good thing going for it it's that it is really easy to get a bunch of these with a good chance that it has the perks combination that you want if you have both present upgrades from Eva.
They need to bring the ornament back for it, it looks so sexy!
how do you not have any recoil
What’s the best PvP SMG that’s not named Multimach?
Shayuras adept
Borrowed time
man, i really wish cold front was good. why bungo removed rf from a 13 zoom smg, ill never understand.
"Couldn't fit charged with light on build" has charged with light first game lol
Im sure if you ran backup mag with it, it would be more viable.
I love the cold front, unfortunately I don't have a good PvE or PvP roll.
Interesting thing, this gun has a very similar model to Antiope
It was cool when it had Osmosis (Verity's/Mantle/Nezarec synergy), but without that it's kinda wack.
the mag is wayyyyy to small i cant kill more then 1 enemy before i have to reload i wanted this smg to be good cus it looks so good but idk man.
You made one streak, just a reaaaaaally long one.
Remember when cold front could roll dragonfly? That was weird
you should 100% run some trials carries with Gold, i think youd both be insane
titan ninja class confirmed
Being fucked by playing against someone who knows how to not die to an SMG is a big limitation though, I'd have to say. Coincidentally "Being fucked because I'm playing against someone who knows how to not die" is the title of my Crucible memoirs.
38 killstreak in the first game
Question(unrelated to video) for all yall people who use stompies:
What exotic would you use instead if they got nerfed or changed?
probably dragons shadow or mask of bakris