Wallah, the shotgun from the crown of sorrow raid is probably the best shotgun in the game that was never used, if you have it it'd be cool to see a review on it. I find it to be incredibly consistent at insane ranges where other meta shotguns fail
I feel like the combo of eye of the storm/rangefinder or opening shot is just a much better consistent dueling weapon with austringer. Tho the stat package for Eyasluna just puts austringer to shame.
I honestly love that they're different in these ways. If they ever bring back Menagerie weapons, it'll be worth farming an Austringer just for this subtle difference. Perks vs Stats.
Personally the reason I loved austringer is because it had the ability to roll the 2 of the best accuracy perks in the game (EotS/Opening shot). Or you could go for the EotS/Rangefinder roll which was great as well. Though I will say I understand why bungie didn't give Eyasluna the ability to roll those 2 together. I managed to get the 5/5 roll I was looking for (Truesight, Ricochet, Rangefinder, Moving target, Range mw). With a targeting mod on the helmet the thing literally has 100 AA and I play on console so the more AA the better lol.
Im finding spiking stats on weapons to not be as rewarding versus having a nice "rounded" curve. I think theres diminishing returns for things like range, handeling?, stability. So having all at a medium, vs max range and low stability and handeling to be more beneficial (at least personally). That being said personally I have a super high stability/handeling eyasuluna with range finder to sort of "imaginarily" bring up the range
You are correct! stability starts to loose its linear gains at a stat of 68. its diminishing after that. for handling it's 80, it only changes by literal individual frames afterwards. Range does not diminish, but instead each individual weapon type has a range scalar. couldn't list each one in a UA-cam comment but it's the reason why a sidearm with, say 60 range and a zoom of 12, and a hand canon with the same stats do not have the same range . That's also why a sidearm with 100 range barely has less than a meter more range than the same sidearm with 50.
I play on both mnk and controller and I think what aztecross said was true about eyasluna, it just feels fantastic on controller. Decent on mnk but there’s better options for that like fatebringer/pali. And Austringer always felt amazing on mnk to me while being kinda meh on controller. Controller players rejoice, eyasluna is pretty sweet.
The gun model for eyasluna and Austringer is so clean too which is another reason I think people like those guns, it’s not clunky and it doesn’t feel like it gets in the way
Got a God roll eyasluna today after grinding for hours with fast draw hcs, armor piercing rounds, rangefinder, and moving target. It's a beast but tbh even the mediocre rolls I used before are great, just an overall good gun at a base level
Nice roll, I got one with Hitmark (personally my favorite in column 1), ricochet rounds, rangefinder, moving target, range masterwork. Its a beautiful thing in pvp
Ya know I find it funny when I run into hunters that still use shatter dive and get confused when it doesn't work, it was just like post slide nerf I had a titan trying to slide shotgun me and was utterly confused it was hilarious 😂
Unpopular opinion, stability is just as important or more than range on handcanons, especially on controller, the shots feels so much smoother and easier to long when rapidly firing hard yo explain but stability feels crisp as hell on the eyasluna and pali
100% agree. It also lessens bloom over time. So stability is effectively helping keep your accuracy cone bigger which leads to landing more shots. I've never gone for all this max range rolls people chase for that reason. Also I'm on console and I just think a hand cannon that has 70+ stability feels better to use because I don't have to focus all the much on adjusting my aim.
As someone that has been a big fan of arc souls for a while now the rangefinder with kill clip roll is the one I’m after. Kill clip on its own doesn’t change ttk, but an arc soul hit or two before, during or after 2 crits with kill clip will make it effectively a two tap so that is the roll I’m after. I know I could get a timelost Fatebringer with kill clip, but I already have one with opening shot so I’m happy with that and it’s harder to get anyway
Yeah that's bungie for you. Pay for content then it'll be removed and you're sitting there with cosmetics you've either took ages to get or purchased now they serve no purpose pretty much..
I feel like austringer is being brought out of time for this comparison. But when austringer ruled handcannons were ALL about range. Stability did not matter so which gun was better is a flawed question because the answer lies in when
We should probably not use godroll as a reference. Preferred roll or opinionated roll sounds more right in most cases. There's literally 7+ different videos that all say different things.
what jump do you run? it seems much higher than strafe jump, but i was always under the impression that high jump isn't that viable due to lack of directional control, is it actually good?
I know Rangefinder is probably the god roll for like every player but I really think Perpetual Motion is the reason to use Eyasluna over other hc's. The gun just feels better than anything else I have with 2 stacks of Perpetual Motion. If I want max range, I have a Rangefinder Pali I can put on
@@timpanzeee This is true. Luckily there are plenty of options for special weapons in the first slot (like chap, wastelander, astral horizon, eye of sol) so you can have a variety of builds. I run perpetual motion eyasluna with threat detector opening shot matador right now but that's mostly because I avoided pve until GoA
@@theDirtMan69420 I think I might want perpetual motion on all of my gun rolls now. I'm imagining a primary and secondary both with 2 stacks of perpetual motion plus ophidian aspect and everything has qd snapshot now
I feel like austringer was something I would swap to after using either a double primary or a fusion rifle. Eyesluna is more fit for an aggressive playstyle
What are the settings and key macros you use for PC? I am trying to get much better and have been struggling with being this quick with my mouse movement and also trying to be better on key mapping.
Honestly the only reason I like austringer more is because it felt like it had a lot less kick, I had a rangefinder snapshot roll that I rocked until it sunset
I’m d1 I used the Eyasluna over the hawk moon anyday, It just performed better and it didn’t take the exotic slot. (Any unintelligent kid that never played d1, we called it the legendary hawkmoon and was often compared to hawkmoon, because it was the only weapon that looked like hawkmoon)
imo i like austringer better because its has a better perk pool to choose from. Opening shot just feels so good to me but eyaslunas stat package is nutty
I just want my old snapshot+rangefinder combo again but on the Luna 😔. Snapshot just felt nice and I didn’t really have to worry about handling (as much)
I have fast-draw high-cal heating up kill clip roll, but the aim assist on a controller is stupid good, I could aim almost 2 feet away from someone's head and they would take precision damage.
It's stupid that they sunset the Austringer and Beloved. Not only did people bust their asses farming the Menagerie for them but some people put money into them for their ornaments. And too top it off they just looked cool
Austringer feels more heavy and eyasluna feels more light, very similar weapons, but nothing extreme, but personally i prefer austringer, feels crispier and more fun in my opinion atleast.
It always makes me laugh when wallah mentions something about how bad the other players are or hitting/missing shots when he plays bots in comparison to his actual own account 😂
Idk why but palindrome feels way stickier than eyasluna, any reason as to why that is? Eyasluna has more aim assist so I’m confused as to why I feel like trash with this weapon
had the same issue, especially with killing wind on my pali it makes it feel so good after a kill but after 5-6 games of trying to mainly use eyasluna it feels decent now
These 2 rolls I used has identical range stats btw! So it was the fairest comparison.
Wallah, the shotgun from the crown of sorrow raid is probably the best shotgun in the game that was never used, if you have it it'd be cool to see a review on it. I find it to be incredibly consistent at insane ranges where other meta shotguns fail
@@Felix-gm9im wat was its name
Ausie wins BC ornament
@@l_lxry emperor's courtesy
@@l_lxry upon further research, he already did a video on it. Disregard, guys, disregard.
I feel like the combo of eye of the storm/rangefinder or opening shot is just a much better consistent dueling weapon with austringer. Tho the stat package for Eyasluna just puts austringer to shame.
I honestly love that they're different in these ways. If they ever bring back Menagerie weapons, it'll be worth farming an Austringer just for this subtle difference. Perks vs Stats.
Agreed
@Naquaman
I concur. Imagine bringing back beloved ahahahahahaha.
@@wesleyerickson8661 1000 Yard Stare, has same perks. Quickdraw and Snap with dane mags and barrels but its 44 zoom instead of 40 like Beloved.
*same mags
Now this brings back memories, I will miss that time of destiny with menagerie, it was honestly the best period imo
Personally the reason I loved austringer is because it had the ability to roll the 2 of the best accuracy perks in the game (EotS/Opening shot). Or you could go for the EotS/Rangefinder roll which was great as well.
Though I will say I understand why bungie didn't give Eyasluna the ability to roll those 2 together. I managed to get the 5/5 roll I was looking for (Truesight, Ricochet, Rangefinder, Moving target, Range mw). With a targeting mod on the helmet the thing literally has 100 AA and I play on console so the more AA the better lol.
I feel like they missed the mark by not making it roll both eots and os
range finder moving is ur God roll? kinda mid
@@yungerrr cool
that roll is 1/6912 your capping
@@kxbp8222 how much money you sending me if I send a picture with it in my vault
the "wallah here" Always gives me serotonin
Im finding spiking stats on weapons to not be as rewarding versus having a nice "rounded" curve. I think theres diminishing returns for things like range, handeling?, stability. So having all at a medium, vs max range and low stability and handeling to be more beneficial (at least personally). That being said personally I have a super high stability/handeling eyasuluna with range finder to sort of "imaginarily" bring up the range
You are correct! stability starts to loose its linear gains at a stat of 68. its diminishing after that. for handling it's 80, it only changes by literal individual frames afterwards. Range does not diminish, but instead each individual weapon type has a range scalar. couldn't list each one in a UA-cam comment but it's the reason why a sidearm with, say 60 range and a zoom of 12, and a hand canon with the same stats do not have the same range . That's also why a sidearm with 100 range barely has less than a meter more range than the same sidearm with 50.
2:50 reminded me of when gabe titan skated across the entire map in d1
Since the Tuesday update, all I ever die to is Seventh Seraph Shotguns
Yuuuuuup
I play on both mnk and controller and I think what aztecross said was true about eyasluna, it just feels fantastic on controller. Decent on mnk but there’s better options for that like fatebringer/pali.
And Austringer always felt amazing on mnk to me while being kinda meh on controller.
Controller players rejoice, eyasluna is pretty sweet.
I love the Destiny 1 music at the end of the vids. It's very calming and nostalgic
The gun model for eyasluna and Austringer is so clean too which is another reason I think people like those guns, it’s not clunky and it doesn’t feel like it gets in the way
Oh I can't wait for Austringer to return!
Hey wallah! I love you man! Keep grinding you’re videos my favorite part of the day would love them to be longer hehe. ❤️
I’d love to see a comparison between a similarly rolled D1 and D2 eyasluna
My old austringer has snapshot rampage and holy moly folks i could pair that with any primary or special and go wild
Well you see
Eyasluna -> Hawkmoon
But also
Eyasluna -> austringer
Eyasluna kinda like eevee
Got a God roll eyasluna today after grinding for hours with fast draw hcs, armor piercing rounds, rangefinder, and moving target. It's a beast but tbh even the mediocre rolls I used before are great, just an overall good gun at a base level
Nice roll, I got one with Hitmark (personally my favorite in column 1), ricochet rounds, rangefinder, moving target, range masterwork. Its a beautiful thing in pvp
Ya know I find it funny when I run into hunters that still use shatter dive and get confused when it doesn't work, it was just like post slide nerf I had a titan trying to slide shotgun me and was utterly confused it was hilarious 😂
The fact that they nerfed sliding is still funny to me tbh
Yay Wallah on a Eyasluna video !!!
This aged well
Funny how the austringer is literally just a modified Eyasluna.
Gotta love that hunter, shotgun out. Running at you, throws nade and shatterdives. What a virgin lmao
AYOOOO!!! That throwing knife kill with the no look was ELITE!!!😎🤯
The tracking on the dodging hunter at around 5:40 was nuts
Unpopular opinion, stability is just as important or more than range on handcanons, especially on controller, the shots feels so much smoother and easier to long when rapidly firing hard yo explain but stability feels crisp as hell on the eyasluna and pali
I agree
100% agree. It also lessens bloom over time. So stability is effectively helping keep your accuracy cone bigger which leads to landing more shots. I've never gone for all this max range rolls people chase for that reason. Also I'm on console and I just think a hand cannon that has 70+ stability feels better to use because I don't have to focus all the much on adjusting my aim.
DARK FROSTING? you gotta be kidding me.
As someone that has been a big fan of arc souls for a while now the rangefinder with kill clip roll is the one I’m after. Kill clip on its own doesn’t change ttk, but an arc soul hit or two before, during or after 2 crits with kill clip will make it effectively a two tap so that is the roll I’m after.
I know I could get a timelost Fatebringer with kill clip, but I already have one with opening shot so I’m happy with that and it’s harder to get anyway
We need austringer back, I have like 3 ornaments for it lol.
They should've made Austringer ornaments usable on eyasluna. Just like Mini tool and drang.
Yeah that's bungie for you. Pay for content then it'll be removed and you're sitting there with cosmetics you've either took ages to get or purchased now they serve no purpose pretty much..
That throwing knife at 10:14 was dirty.
9:22 Was not expecting that jump scare
I feel like austringer is being brought out of time for this comparison. But when austringer ruled handcannons were ALL about range. Stability did not matter so which gun was better is a flawed question because the answer lies in when
We should probably not use godroll as a reference. Preferred roll or opinionated roll sounds more right in most cases. There's literally 7+ different videos that all say different things.
what jump do you run? it seems much higher than strafe jump, but i was always under the impression that high jump isn't that viable due to lack of directional control, is it actually good?
Fatebringer go brrrr
Good stuff wallah
Seeing hunters shatterdiving and failing is so satisfying 😍😍😍
I know Rangefinder is probably the god roll for like every player but I really think Perpetual Motion is the reason to use Eyasluna over other hc's. The gun just feels better than anything else I have with 2 stacks of Perpetual Motion. If I want max range, I have a Rangefinder Pali I can put on
pali is in a different slot tho so you cant pair with stuff like found verdict, felwinters, 1k yard stare, etc.
@@timpanzeee This is true. Luckily there are plenty of options for special weapons in the first slot (like chap, wastelander, astral horizon, eye of sol) so you can have a variety of builds. I run perpetual motion eyasluna with threat detector opening shot matador right now but that's mostly because I avoided pve until GoA
Perpetual motion is so great, it actually makes handcannons on console feel like pc handcannons with the stability
@@theDirtMan69420 I think I might want perpetual motion on all of my gun rolls now. I'm imagining a primary and secondary both with 2 stacks of perpetual motion plus ophidian aspect and everything has qd snapshot now
Just realized that destiny 1 soundtrack sounds like the xbox 360 avatar bacground music.
say wallah budster
I think the reticle thing you were talking about has to do with rangefinder zooming in the scope a bit on the eyasluna
I'm not going to lie, i forgot you even switched hand cannons lol
Did I mention, E.
Sword fail proves wallah has plot armor
I’ve been doing the dungeon lots of times and have yet to get an eyasluna
I have an Austrians with EOS, opening shot ,accurized rounds, full bore barrel and stability master work. You should try it out!
I feel like austringer was something I would swap to after using either a double primary or a fusion rifle. Eyesluna is more fit for an aggressive playstyle
What are the settings and key macros you use for PC? I am trying to get much better and have been struggling with being this quick with my mouse movement and also trying to be better on key mapping.
The austringer being the old eyasluna while the eyasluna is also the old austringer
Honestly the only reason I like austringer more is because it felt like it had a lot less kick, I had a rangefinder snapshot roll that I rocked until it sunset
Legend has it wallah never replies
I’m d1 I used the Eyasluna over the hawk moon anyday, It just performed better and it didn’t take the exotic slot. (Any unintelligent kid that never played d1, we called it the legendary hawkmoon and was often compared to hawkmoon, because it was the only weapon that looked like hawkmoon)
9:01 - Wallah, this is why people think you have aimbot.
I love you wallah ,day like 9 of asking for ticcus divination
Rapid hit rangefinder is nuts
what is your ads setup? ang look sens?
Sadly nothing can replace my Austringer but sunsetting happend 😥😥😥
I never bothered trying to get an Austringer at the time, simply because hand cannons on old gen consoles were borderline unusable (except for 180s)
ngl i didn’t notice the hand cannon swap
Wallah climbs up on that ledge I’m like yeah of course I’ve known of that peek spot forever then he climbs through the wall 😯
I like how Wallah is doing callouts yet he is solo
imo i like austringer better because its has a better perk pool to choose from. Opening shot just feels so good to me but eyaslunas stat package is nutty
Austringer was my first god roll I got. I miss it everyday
Just think if we were able to farm for a random rolled midnight coup. Idk what it was about that gun but it always felt amazing.
Does Eyasluna get that slight bump to impact and damage that kinetics get or does it not since its stasis?
I have Austringer with full bore, accurased, rangefinder, eye of the storm and range masterwork. Happy me))
….When daddy wallah speaks good truthful words
man i hope they bring back austringer
and all the menagire stuff
This is literally my mane load out, eyesluna and the cqc
I just want my old snapshot+rangefinder combo again but on the Luna 😔. Snapshot just felt nice and I didn’t really have to worry about handling (as much)
Esyaluna rolls with Rangefinder/snap. You can get that combination again.
@@spray916 I'm pretty sure what he meant is that he has to farm for it again
man i know that jims spirit is aching.... thats how you know bungie blesses their pros...
I have fast-draw high-cal heating up kill clip roll, but the aim assist on a controller is stupid good, I could aim almost 2 feet away from someone's head and they would take precision damage.
The eyasluna before eyasluna after eyasluna lol
No Luck in the Chamber 😔 that was my jam in D1
It's interesting how the content creators all land precise hits while they are jumping around, sliding around etc ...
Big Bro Eyasluna is proud of his little brother
It's stupid that they sunset the Austringer and Beloved. Not only did people bust their asses farming the Menagerie for them but some people put money into them for their ornaments.
And too top it off they just looked cool
That flick tho 8:55
Love your videos
I got Rangefinder Kill clip range MW Eyasluna and it's great
Identical ranges stats but not identical aim assist stats..does that matter?Did that get mentioned?
It’s not better looking, unfortunately. Austringer just looked so damn good
I have been trying to find a shader that makes Austringer look like Eyasluna, but to no avail. Do you happen to know which shader can do this?
You had 3 Eyalunas in this video, Austringer, Eyasluna and Golden gun bottom tree 😂
nothing beats pali idc
Now if only we could get the Austringer ornament, on eyasluna
Austringer feels more heavy and eyasluna feels more light, very similar weapons, but nothing extreme, but personally i prefer austringer, feels crispier and more fun in my opinion atleast.
They are both literally the same gun model except one has crystals on it
It always makes me laugh when wallah mentions something about how bad the other players are or hitting/missing shots when he plays bots in comparison to his actual own account 😂
outro was pogu
Idk why but palindrome feels way stickier than eyasluna, any reason as to why that is? Eyasluna has more aim assist so I’m confused as to why I feel like trash with this weapon
had the same issue, especially with killing wind on my pali it makes it feel so good after a kill but after 5-6 games of trying to mainly use eyasluna it feels decent now
I just need the same ornament for the Luna that the Austringer got. The first ornament, not the newest.
I like Austringer more based solely on the fact that you didn’t need to have friends to acquire it.
I personally think that it’s on opinion
I don't know, is it?
austringer? mroe like never heard of it (i joined a hour ago)
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Couldn't even tell the difference between them lol
I bought the ornament for Austringer because it was great. Then they retired it. I still have an ornament for a gun I can’t even use anymore 😂
They should let us use the ornaments we Bought for the aust’ on the eys’
Ik this is a HC vid but, best throwing knife in the game??
we gonna ignore the fact he just had a highlight reel of a game for game 2?
Maybe