The Philosophy of Punishment

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 101

  • @FemFantastic2.0
    @FemFantastic2.0 Рік тому +77

    It is ok to set boundaries and have consequences

    • @undervine
      @undervine Рік тому +25

      Not only ok but necessary.

    • @FemFantastic2.0
      @FemFantastic2.0 Рік тому +15

      @@undervine without them you take a chance on raising a monster.

    • @disnalee
      @disnalee Рік тому +4

      Yes we all need this. A child need this otherwise there is no consequences and that will lead to bad actions down the road.

    • @platinumplaya1
      @platinumplaya1 Рік тому +2

      This goes in conjunction with coding and everything that involves it.

    • @robologo
      @robologo 8 місяців тому

      ​@@FemFantastic2.0 It sounds to me that you just said having boundaries and punishing your children makes sure that they will not become "monsters". This idea is obviously wrong.

  • @Lanesra147
    @Lanesra147 Рік тому +37

    In other words if you tell your kids not to do something and they do it and you don’t buss they ass then they will continue to do what you told them not to do until there is some form repercussions. Be a parent not a mom/dad just Paying rent.

    • @chrisfreebairn870
      @chrisfreebairn870 Рік тому +1

      Kids will push the boundaries til you pull them up, that's how they know where they are, & feel secure there; if you don't provide reasonably clear & consistent boundaries they feel unloved, & ultimately, worthless; because they weren't worth your effort to guide them away from harm.
      Pathological boundaries provide the same anxiety calming effect; so reinforcement of negative attention seeking, which results from failure to provide positive reinforcement, creates pathological adults.
      Boundaries are critical, but positive reinforcement is the best way to define them, or at least a high positive to negative ratio.

  • @cb8957
    @cb8957 Рік тому +51

    Yes! Children need the black and white so that when they are older they can handle the gray areas with wisdom.

  • @timcoolican459
    @timcoolican459 Рік тому +6

    Understanding 'no' helps children learn boundaries, but it may also save them from harm or even death. Another word for them to learn is 'stop'.

  • @ronl7131
    @ronl7131 Рік тому +2

    Learned of great Bible passage from gifted preacher, speaking around Father’s Day. Preacher speaking about parenting, but passage has further application to an important reason for significant shortcomings of US justice system. To paraphrase Ecclesiastes 8:11: if a person is found guilty, in a just manner, the punishment must follow swiftly, or more bad ideas ‘of the heart’ will follow. So very true, at so many societal levels.

  • @noblebun
    @noblebun Рік тому +4

    "No" - the one word a narcissist can NEVER handle.

  • @janiecepoush1904
    @janiecepoush1904 Рік тому +1

    NO! Set Boundaries: Fair,
    CLEAR, & Follow Through! 🕊

  • @danielgoodman3578
    @danielgoodman3578 Рік тому +2

    I think no also must mean involve teaching the child the reason behind the no. Ex: kid drawing on walls--told no, backed up with appropriate punishment if repeated, but also teach the need to not damage/misuse property (in addition to obeying parents).

  • @StevenEdwardDetroit
    @StevenEdwardDetroit Рік тому +5

    always detailed, precise, and brilliant 👏 JP!

  • @jananabanana3180
    @jananabanana3180 Рік тому +1

    " NO" is a complete sentence....!!!

  • @invenitur4231
    @invenitur4231 Рік тому +3

    That tie thoo

  • @TheNo1guitar
    @TheNo1guitar Рік тому +20

    I have a hard time teaching myself this

    • @itskeagan3004
      @itskeagan3004 Рік тому

      Having a harder time teaching three teenage girls this, exactly what I needed this morning.

    • @disnalee
      @disnalee Рік тому

      When you have kids its going to lead to problem in the future. To yourself at least you have control over your actions to the option you choose.

  • @blueprintsg
    @blueprintsg Рік тому +1

    My take for my 7 year old ( I’ve been doing since he was 2) is simple, when I say no, there’s a deep story/lesson/meaning behind and learn to take no for an answer and an easier way through life. All actions have consequences and whatever you do or say wrong (or even right) will always be used against you in this era of cancel culture. Live life happy and be content, why try to do foolish things or #challenges (that is youth isn’t it😂) and then waste your life getting punished and cancelled and you won’t always get a 2nd chance nor apology will always be enough. Just walk away a last laughing winner in other windows of opportunities of life.

  • @dominbgky01
    @dominbgky01 Рік тому

    I had 3 rules.
    1. What you are doing wrong.
    2. How long you have to stop.
    3. What's going to happen if you don't.
    You can never bluff.
    You'll have kids that know you mean what you say and feel safe and loved.

  • @kevinjagoe4852
    @kevinjagoe4852 Рік тому +1

    We’ve all seen how time outs and everyone gets a trophy worked out.

  • @theresaholman2856
    @theresaholman2856 Рік тому

    you are an excellent analyst.

  • @barbbeulah7139
    @barbbeulah7139 Рік тому

    Thank you jordan ❤

  • @Magicalwonderlandtarot
    @Magicalwonderlandtarot Рік тому

    My sister (psychology graduate) no kids but raised mine with me as a member of my single motherhood tribe (it takes a village) said years after she wasn’t nannying my son any longer and realized he had adopted some nuances of life and I was upset “you have to make the crime fit the punishment”. She was so right because in every moment of anger I wanted to take away a week or more of “fun” or “enjoyment “ in trying to set boundaries. When in actuality it was a mistake in a moment in time where my sons mistake was compounded with my illusions of crime and punishment in the moment due to indivisible and individual stressors most likely. I changed my perception and it’s been better for my son and myself.

  • @retardeddog566
    @retardeddog566 Рік тому +2

    No needs to bnbe said to politicians more with swift consequences for non-compliance

  • @fppro1679
    @fppro1679 Рік тому

    I want one of those ties!

  • @BrewmasterN8
    @BrewmasterN8 Рік тому +3

    All I have to say is, Wait until your father gets home.

  • @spunkymonkey5102
    @spunkymonkey5102 Рік тому

    Beautifully said

  • @randybryan2516
    @randybryan2516 Рік тому

    Rules without consequences are not rules, they are suggestions (and) suggestions do not absolutely need to be followed.

  • @rosemarietolentino3218
    @rosemarietolentino3218 Рік тому

    If a crime is not swiftly punished there feet will rush into sin.

  • @eugen_rothermel
    @eugen_rothermel Рік тому

    Would be great if you could finish that thought, Dr. petersen.

  • @connieadams607
    @connieadams607 Рік тому

    He’s correct ✅

  • @kathleenirish
    @kathleenirish Рік тому

    Consequences to crossing clearly marked boundaries. Yes

  • @fobosydeimos
    @fobosydeimos Рік тому +1

    That's why kids of single mother households do worst in life.
    My aunt is a single mother, and used to and still screems to her daughter, but never carries through her threats. Thanks to my aunt's brother, who is so chill, but don't take bullshit from no one, my cousin is not a hoe or a drug addict.

    • @grannakd2316
      @grannakd2316 Рік тому

      Not necessarily. I was a single mom to my daughter from the time she was 5. She’s now 39 and one of the best people I’ve ever known. I had to do it all and I knew I had to be consistent and stick with what I told her. She was held to account for her behavior. That’s the main lesson that’s needed in life. Among so many others.

    • @fobosydeimos
      @fobosydeimos Рік тому

      @@grannakd2316 Look up the statistics about single mothers and incarceration rates.

  • @keatengaskill3859
    @keatengaskill3859 Рік тому

    Just gotta avoid passing along the "because you deserve it" mentality. Punishments are Justice by the letter of the law. Consequences are rehabilitation by the spirit of the law.

  • @guiemmiro5201
    @guiemmiro5201 Рік тому

    There is no smarter person on this planet than Jordan B. Peterson. At least, I have not found one.

  • @superwormhalz2607
    @superwormhalz2607 Рік тому

    No means a pit is around the corner and you could fall in. The punishment should be a poke into the right (better) direction. Or it could be letting them fall into the pit but what good is done unless you rescue them from the pit?

  • @jeandchevalier-vi1ql
    @jeandchevalier-vi1ql Рік тому

    3 x no = yes

  • @mo6964
    @mo6964 Рік тому +13

    Haters once again proving they only learn things through 5 seconds clips on the internet instead of actually listening to what's being discussed. Tik Tok egos lol

  • @Jimothy-723
    @Jimothy-723 Рік тому

    Peterson has his own philosophy. he draws on others, but his work is mostly his own.

  • @IMOO1896
    @IMOO1896 Рік тому

    I’m yay old, I I’ve never associated punishment with the word “no”.

  • @bernardwalden6884
    @bernardwalden6884 Рік тому

    Well isn't that the power of suggestion

  • @myrnawinters4573
    @myrnawinters4573 Рік тому +2

    As a parent when I say no I also say what is yes to an alternative to the No. Children should be given an alternative to the No so that that alternative is a better choice if you just say no without presenting a better choice including behavior then the child is left confused

    • @SiD-KiD
      @SiD-KiD Рік тому +1

      I like that. Thanks for sharing!

    • @anzotailor4027
      @anzotailor4027 Рік тому

      Exactly... An option should be presented. "Your behavior will win a prize. The prize is your choice" 😊

    • @anzotailor4027
      @anzotailor4027 Рік тому

      The child must learn to make decisions. For each decision there is a prize.

  • @ManCalledMegz
    @ManCalledMegz Рік тому

    So his point is he believes the only reason anyone doesn't do anything is fear of punishment. Which doesn't account for the myriad things that we don't do because we have personal moral objections to them which have no punishable affect if you did them. A simple example is vegetarianism, it's not illegal to eat meat yet people choose not to for their own choice. Not because society tells them not to, not because a "god" tells them not to or because a law tells them not to.

  • @helenbostock2350
    @helenbostock2350 Рік тому

    No and stick to it. Sit through thier tears and thier angry. Emphasized with them. Tell them you are not being fair but the answer still no you can't do this to yourself or me.

  • @See7ayyeesix
    @See7ayyeesix Рік тому

    People might take this concept out of context 😒

  • @josephl6289
    @josephl6289 Рік тому

    Yeah not sure I agree with these premises... No is communicating that there are parameters, and no means you're going beyond those parameters. The consequence of no, is a separate process of communication which is not inherent in the concept of no itself.

  • @jeremiahakinlabi7232
    @jeremiahakinlabi7232 Рік тому

    Anyone got the link to the full interview?

    • @thefabulousmothman
      @thefabulousmothman Рік тому

      Unfortunately not available. It's on the daily wire. Subscription material.

  • @kierrahogan4759
    @kierrahogan4759 Рік тому

    Punishment vs. Discipline
    I disagree

  • @michaelricker5810
    @michaelricker5810 Рік тому

    I would love to punish him.

  • @JustUsLeagueAZ
    @JustUsLeagueAZ Рік тому +1

    #GodForPresident. #HeHasBeenHereTheWholeTime
    #ChooseWisely
    #JordanTheChosen
    #WTC GangGang
    #WeNeedMoreProphets
    #GhettoNunTarot
    #DUProudGraduate
    #JustUsLeague

  • @ashoup7534
    @ashoup7534 Рік тому

    behind the bastards podcast

  • @leecampion4294
    @leecampion4294 Рік тому

    ❤💯💥

  • @darwinhughey3861
    @darwinhughey3861 Рік тому

    Chicago riots???

  • @makeitsimple612
    @makeitsimple612 Рік тому +3

    No means no no no 🤷

  • @Mavikanatlar
    @Mavikanatlar Рік тому

    I never hit my children never yell never say a bad word.but my no 's are real.and they know if i say no i mean it.i dont need to be verbal just a look and they know it.but my husband on the other hand 🙄

  • @bryanmastalish4595
    @bryanmastalish4595 Рік тому

    Why are you afraid of being weak??? Wtf kind of question is that?!? Smh

  • @othmanahmad7331
    @othmanahmad7331 Рік тому

    What "no" mean. What what mean what mean mean. Useless philosoher

  • @nurgle-j5n
    @nurgle-j5n Рік тому +1

    what does No mean? really jordan?

    • @Brandon-1996
      @Brandon-1996 Рік тому

      What was he referring to, "This is what we're attempting to do here"? Out of context it isn't interesting to say.

    • @mo6964
      @mo6964 Рік тому +5

      You have idea of the context do you?

  • @EvanCanSee
    @EvanCanSee Рік тому +4

    I love how he says so much but yet so little. He just speaks in a way that makes him sound more intelligent than he actually is, he's not an idiot, but he's not super brains like some people think

    • @mo6964
      @mo6964 Рік тому

      He constantly having to dumb down concepts for the average person to understand. He's used to having discussions with tards that can't understand the topics being brought up.

    • @vinlago
      @vinlago Рік тому +7

      I don't know of anyone claiming JBP has a superior intellect. They do, however, recognize his many hours of interacting with people through his practice and then analyzing patterns he's observed.

    • @EvanCanSee
      @EvanCanSee Рік тому +2

      @@vinlago True, not everyone can analyze patterns. But the ones that can or intellectually Superior. At least to the ones that are unable to do so. So if he's not intellectually Superior, what good is he? And how can we trust that his analyzation of patterns that he has observed is correct?

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 Рік тому +6

      What he said was perfectly clear to me and sounds pretty dense with information.
      So maybe you were just not smart enough to get it...

    • @EvanCanSee
      @EvanCanSee Рік тому +1

      @@immanuelcunt7296 nothing of what I said alluded to him not being clear in what he's trying to say. So either that was a projection or a strawman, pick your poison.
      I think you're the only one here having trouble comprehending what somebody is saying. because what I'M saying he says a lot but yet so little, as if his words and ideas are deep and grandiose, when they're really quite simplistic. Black & white. Not that is point is clear, I understand his points, they're just not grandiose.

  • @michaelwirth6843
    @michaelwirth6843 Рік тому

    Very wise words.

  • @mttrader7
    @mttrader7 Рік тому

    Yh but jp is depressed so how ever he was raised I don't trust it