That Res Bina really reminds of how the early humanity was depicted in Plato's Symposium(??). It was said that humans bore two heads, four hands and four legs, but the gods feared them and split them in half. Since that day, humans search for their significant other.
Amazing parallelisms, could be what inspired alchemy or parallel thinking, but over the course of history, humans do reach similar conclusions about different stuff. Thnks for the reminder. Yeah, huamans always see everything as either a duality or a balance between 3 things
Me alegra saber que con Xenoblade, por fin Takahashi va a poder expandir las ideas que no pudo con Xenogears y Xenosaga. Pero al mismo tiempo aprovecha y lo mete a todo en el mismo mundo
For Amalthus it would be like creating a super computers for savings the earth (that isn't a ref to xenoblade x) and named it Hitler. Really realistic since its a mii fighter.
But why would they make it look like the most evil person of a different planet? and why pair that person with Meyneth? wouldn't you pair the two faces with people of equal position? Do these faces even actually look like Amalthus and Meyneth? The gold one doesn't even have normal eyes. Couldn't they just be regular faces?
Es una teoría interesante, aunque de ser cierta, solo me hace ver lo pobre que fue el concepto de Origin a ojos de los fans. A tal punto que los libros de arte tuvieron que llenar los huecos argumentales. Podría ser que Takahashi aun no ha dicho todo sobre Origin y quizás a futuro veamos algo más revelador.
Honestly kinda fitting for it to be both amalthus and meyneth since both sacrificed themselves in an attempt to seek the destruction of the world for their ideal future, which is literally what origin and by extension Ontos symbolizes in the narrative.
@@cameronwilsey9334 I think they're talking about Meyneth wanting to destroy the world that Zanza created so that a new one, with "no need for gods" could be created. Perhaps she's more about creation than destruction, but that does still mean a good parallel with Amalthus, who only wanted to destroy all life. A figure of Creation & a figure of Destruction on a machine that's designed to recreate two worlds after they destroy each other.
@@cameronwilsey9334 "Create a world with no need for gods" In a world that heavily relies upon the existence of gods which risks stagnation without one, that requires the destruction of one world to make room for another. This statement is acknowledgement of the current world's mandation of a god, and what her request entails. Obviously neither of them intended for Galea to enter into the world with Klaus, nor was it the intent for Klaus to be split into two, but what they did IN that new world is what matters. She absolutely wished for the destruction of her and Zanza's limited world to make room for an open and free universe run by the people, not by gods, as proven by this single statement.
The problem with the face theory is that the gold face was created in Alrest based on Nia’s flashback where Tora appears, which would mean that the Amalthus Face was made in Alrest.
I don't know who to trust The drawings in Nia story say that While the 3D models of both pre rendered and in game of THE SAME cutscene show it reversed. Keves making the gold face and Agnus making the silver face We'll have to wait for the next game or a prequel to see
@@imperfectworks7064 It either one or other, but it’s consistent with Nia forgetting parts of her original world after 1000 years, she probably forgot which side of origin she worked on.
They were in contact with each other so I think it's possible for them to give the design for the side that they made over to the other world. As similarly stated in this video it might've been an important part of Origin's process and intended function, or a nice diplomatic move to encourage co-operation between both worlds before they were re-created into one.
Siempre asumí que era la funda la que alojaba a Logos, concordaría con la funda de Noah albergando a Pneuma. Siguiendo esta asunción, el equivalente al Siete de la Suerte de N podría ser otro personaje. (¿Tal vez Jin?)
Lo de Pneuma en la espada de Noah no ha sido confirmado aún. A dónde @#$@#% te fuiste Matthew??? Veo difícil que personajes más allá de los procesadores puedan volver. Lo que si veo un patrón en el comportamiento de Malos. Logos, quien se relaciona con el razonamiento lógico y busqueda de la verdad. Resonó con amalthus, quien estaba profundame te decepcionado con el mundo y buscaba comprender los designios del arquitecto y sus secretos. Jin, quien renunció a su regeneración/inmortalidad para preservar sus recuerdos pero vive aquejado por ellos, dejando de comprender el motivo por el que blades y humanos viven juntos, desarrollando un odio al ciclo del mundo. Malos en si mismo buscaba su proposito, convenciendose de que su rol era el del destructor, pero eventualmente se vinculó con otros como Jin. Siguiendo este patrón, sin aún saber como logos volvió, Noah tambien era un ser que luchaba contra el sistema, que no conprendía el motivo de las reglas de su mundo, que buscaba la verdad, pero tambien aquejado por perder a Mio u otros, Logos vió algo en él. Takahashi: "aún no es el momento para revelar eso"
@@imperfectworks7064 Teniendo en cuenta el brillo verde de la espada de Noah que Mio y Guernica mencionan al inicio del juego y que al desenfundarla se transforma en un guante, creo que está implícito que es el mismo guante de Matthew. (Riku modificó el Blade de Noah para transformarlo en una funda que pudiese albergar el Siete de la Suerte).
Por cierto amigo, ¿cómo te han facilitado tantas imágenes del libro de arte? Me gustaría echarle un vistazo, pero no tengo el tiempo de navegar en Internet.
@@ApoppliadosServer puede ser, pero tambien el mismo color es usado por la piedra ouroboros (que Nia y Melia hicieron con metal de origin), algunas habilidades de Melia en la historia como teletransportarse (algo que solo con permisos de admin en origin se puede hacer) o liberar a los soldados, Nia con lo mismo, la misma espada de N. Por ende siento que el verde se usa para usuarios admins de origin. Contrastando con el morado que ahora usan para los administradores usurpadores de origin Moebius. Y fogbeasts y alpha con rojo más bien naranjo. Riku dijo en FR que se iba a inflitrar en colonias de Keves, Matthew se fue a un viaje a buscar aliados, no sabemos si si o no se reencontraron, echo de menos al Matthew :c
@@ApoppliadosServer Un amigo italiano había comprado la versión digital. Mi versión física llegara el lunes o martes después de haber viajado medio mundo. Al no saber mucho de japonés no me enteré que en jna de las última páginas decía no distribuir y cosas de ese estilo, eso después de subir el 1er video del tema (en donde por suerte solo usé 3 imagenes al final) por lo que no sé En cuanto al lore, hay una traducción parcial de lugal en xenomira.wordpress.com, y hará una del libro entero eventualmente. En cuanto a analizar el arte, tengo que ver si se puede utilizar imagenes o no (se había formado una polémica en redes sociales respecto a esto), y si no, lo haré con mi libro de arte y una lupa
They are selling well currently, better than gears and saga XC2 released in the switch 1st year + it had a boost when pyra appeared in smash XCX was on the last year of the WiiU so its failure could be do to that. But what you say is also true if we compare it to other series, even Pikmin 4 outsold the xenoblade games (still good game) Pokemon always sells more and more, it creates massive amounts of hype, no idea how, from my perspective you need nostalgia to like pokemon. Smash is understandable, crossover of different games, competitive, casual, good for parties. I got into xenoblade thanks to shulk in smash, also into mother 3 due to Lucas, in general Smash is good advertisment. Mario is THE nintendo mascot, Zelda is close and with botw / totk it appealed to the casual and new audience aswell. Xenoblade is an rpg, even FF7 remake and rebirth are kknda struggling, the media is not too kind with the genre. Xenoblade is also "anime ughh" which turns off some people (while many npcs and even link in zelda have a similar japanese cartoon artsyle, small nose, big eyes) So yeah, sad Xenoblade and Metroid are my favourite game franchises, and both do not sell well. Maybe its my fault sorry xD
@imperfectworks7064 are u kidding me? jrpg sold so well on ps ever since ps1 era than on Nintendo. ff7 tales of arse persona5 yakuza and many others sold at least 5m. Xenoblade series can't even crack 3m. Im sad i hope sony wont take over monolithsoft from Nintendo soon cos that would be suck
@@Rizky-Gumilar FF12, 13 and 15 tho. FF7 remake is selling good, but square said it didnt live to their projections. Xenobmade series has sell over 3m Xenoblade 2 alone is like 2.4m XC3 was like 1.9 last time I checked, forgott about XCDE, XCwii and XC3DS
@imperfectworks7064 i really dont want sony to take over Monolithsoft from Nintendo. Im sad seeing Nintendo crumbling like this. Their tech and graphical fidelity is so outdated
@@Rizky-Gumilar I have high hopes for the next game tho, new system, if the rumors of its tech are true with all of the dlss sht and raytracing stuff They could even create a Xenoblade Klaus trilogy Definitive edition with the updated graphics. The switch issue is having to account for portability, the next one is rumored to be hybrid too but with a few tricks up their sleeve. Have you seen Xenoblade X on WiiU? The biggest Xenoblade maps yet, open world, and in various instances, looking better than the switch Xenoblade games, like water effects. I really want to see the lighting and art style of the next game, hopefully big maps too and with FR like amount of content per area, exploration and all of that
Huh. The discussion about Rebis makes me wonder if that's where the whole concept of "Perfect Works" related to the Xeno series comes in.
That Res Bina really reminds of how the early humanity was depicted in Plato's Symposium(??). It was said that humans bore two heads, four hands and four legs, but the gods feared them and split them in half. Since that day, humans search for their significant other.
Amazing parallelisms, could be what inspired alchemy or parallel thinking, but over the course of history, humans do reach similar conclusions about different stuff. Thnks for the reminder. Yeah, huamans always see everything as either a duality or a balance between 3 things
"Oops! All monados!" made me snort, that definitely seems to be the case lolol
imperfect worRks releases another banger
Judging from your pfp you are one of the og subscribers or am I mistaken?
Me alegra saber que con Xenoblade, por fin Takahashi va a poder expandir las ideas que no pudo con Xenogears y Xenosaga. Pero al mismo tiempo aprovecha y lo mete a todo en el mismo mundo
For Amalthus it would be like creating a super computers for savings the earth (that isn't a ref to xenoblade x) and named it Hitler. Really realistic since its a mii fighter.
I think you hit the nail right on the head with this one.
But why would they make it look like the most evil person of a different planet? and why pair that person with Meyneth? wouldn't you pair the two faces with people of equal position? Do these faces even actually look like Amalthus and Meyneth? The gold one doesn't even have normal eyes. Couldn't they just be regular faces?
Also both malos and fiora were synthetic beings (at least fiora was at one point). Not sure if that’s important but yeah
I did not understand a single word of this. 🎉
My bad. There are English subtitles tho
@imperfectworks7064 I speak good English. It just went over my head.
Es una teoría interesante, aunque de ser cierta, solo me hace ver lo pobre que fue el concepto de Origin a ojos de los fans. A tal punto que los libros de arte tuvieron que llenar los huecos argumentales. Podría ser que Takahashi aun no ha dicho todo sobre Origin y quizás a futuro veamos algo más revelador.
Honestly kinda fitting for it to be both amalthus and meyneth since both sacrificed themselves in an attempt to seek the destruction of the world for their ideal future, which is literally what origin and by extension Ontos symbolizes in the narrative.
That is a very good point, and also helps to explain why Amalthus would be referenced at all by this design from an in-universe point of view.
Mayneth very much did not seek to destroy the world. She was just present when Klaus did so. I don't think that was his intention either
@@cameronwilsey9334 I think they're talking about Meyneth wanting to destroy the world that Zanza created so that a new one, with "no need for gods" could be created. Perhaps she's more about creation than destruction, but that does still mean a good parallel with Amalthus, who only wanted to destroy all life. A figure of Creation & a figure of Destruction on a machine that's designed to recreate two worlds after they destroy each other.
@@cameronwilsey9334 "Create a world with no need for gods" In a world that heavily relies upon the existence of gods which risks stagnation without one, that requires the destruction of one world to make room for another. This statement is acknowledgement of the current world's mandation of a god, and what her request entails. Obviously neither of them intended for Galea to enter into the world with Klaus, nor was it the intent for Klaus to be split into two, but what they did IN that new world is what matters.
She absolutely wished for the destruction of her and Zanza's limited world to make room for an open and free universe run by the people, not by gods, as proven by this single statement.
The problem with the face theory is that the gold face was created in Alrest based on Nia’s flashback where Tora appears, which would mean that the Amalthus Face was made in Alrest.
I don't know who to trust
The drawings in Nia story say that
While the 3D models of both pre rendered and in game of THE SAME cutscene show it reversed. Keves making the gold face and Agnus making the silver face
We'll have to wait for the next game or a prequel to see
@@imperfectworks7064 It either one or other, but it’s consistent with Nia forgetting parts of her original world after 1000 years, she probably forgot which side of origin she worked on.
@@shulkash8799 after all, she just woke up!!
+ the staff had to work from home
They were in contact with each other so I think it's possible for them to give the design for the side that they made over to the other world. As similarly stated in this video it might've been an important part of Origin's process and intended function, or a nice diplomatic move to encourage co-operation between both worlds before they were re-created into one.
I thought it was Nia and Melia
Siempre asumí que era la funda la que alojaba a Logos, concordaría con la funda de Noah albergando a Pneuma. Siguiendo esta asunción, el equivalente al Siete de la Suerte de N podría ser otro personaje. (¿Tal vez Jin?)
Lo de Pneuma en la espada de Noah no ha sido confirmado aún. A dónde @#$@#% te fuiste Matthew???
Veo difícil que personajes más allá de los procesadores puedan volver. Lo que si veo un patrón en el comportamiento de Malos. Logos, quien se relaciona con el razonamiento lógico y busqueda de la verdad. Resonó con amalthus, quien estaba profundame te decepcionado con el mundo y buscaba comprender los designios del arquitecto y sus secretos. Jin, quien renunció a su regeneración/inmortalidad para preservar sus recuerdos pero vive aquejado por ellos, dejando de comprender el motivo por el que blades y humanos viven juntos, desarrollando un odio al ciclo del mundo. Malos en si mismo buscaba su proposito, convenciendose de que su rol era el del destructor, pero eventualmente se vinculó con otros como Jin.
Siguiendo este patrón, sin aún saber como logos volvió, Noah tambien era un ser que luchaba contra el sistema, que no conprendía el motivo de las reglas de su mundo, que buscaba la verdad, pero tambien aquejado por perder a Mio u otros, Logos vió algo en él.
Takahashi: "aún no es el momento para revelar eso"
@@imperfectworks7064 Teniendo en cuenta el brillo verde de la espada de Noah que Mio y Guernica mencionan al inicio del juego y que al desenfundarla se transforma en un guante, creo que está implícito que es el mismo guante de Matthew. (Riku modificó el Blade de Noah para transformarlo en una funda que pudiese albergar el Siete de la Suerte).
Por cierto amigo, ¿cómo te han facilitado tantas imágenes del libro de arte? Me gustaría echarle un vistazo, pero no tengo el tiempo de navegar en Internet.
@@ApoppliadosServer puede ser, pero tambien el mismo color es usado por la piedra ouroboros (que Nia y Melia hicieron con metal de origin), algunas habilidades de Melia en la historia como teletransportarse (algo que solo con permisos de admin en origin se puede hacer) o liberar a los soldados, Nia con lo mismo, la misma espada de N. Por ende siento que el verde se usa para usuarios admins de origin. Contrastando con el morado que ahora usan para los administradores usurpadores de origin Moebius. Y fogbeasts y alpha con rojo más bien naranjo.
Riku dijo en FR que se iba a inflitrar en colonias de Keves, Matthew se fue a un viaje a buscar aliados, no sabemos si si o no se reencontraron, echo de menos al Matthew :c
@@ApoppliadosServer Un amigo italiano había comprado la versión digital. Mi versión física llegara el lunes o martes después de haber viajado medio mundo. Al no saber mucho de japonés no me enteré que en jna de las última páginas decía no distribuir y cosas de ese estilo, eso después de subir el 1er video del tema (en donde por suerte solo usé 3 imagenes al final) por lo que no sé
En cuanto al lore, hay una traducción parcial de lugal en xenomira.wordpress.com, y hará una del libro entero eventualmente.
En cuanto a analizar el arte, tengo que ver si se puede utilizar imagenes o no (se había formado una polémica en redes sociales respecto a esto), y si no, lo haré con mi libro de arte y una lupa
I consider it a shame that when it came to Alpha and A, everyone focused on gender and pronouns instead of the deeper idea of the union of opposites.
Made it early
Why does Xenoblade series keep flopping? Nintendo users only buy Mario Pokémon Smash Zelda and rarely anything else
They are selling well currently, better than gears and saga
XC2 released in the switch 1st year + it had a boost when pyra appeared in smash
XCX was on the last year of the WiiU so its failure could be do to that.
But what you say is also true if we compare it to other series, even Pikmin 4 outsold the xenoblade games (still good game)
Pokemon always sells more and more, it creates massive amounts of hype, no idea how, from my perspective you need nostalgia to like pokemon.
Smash is understandable, crossover of different games, competitive, casual, good for parties. I got into xenoblade thanks to shulk in smash, also into mother 3 due to Lucas, in general Smash is good advertisment.
Mario is THE nintendo mascot, Zelda is close and with botw / totk it appealed to the casual and new audience aswell.
Xenoblade is an rpg, even FF7 remake and rebirth are kknda struggling, the media is not too kind with the genre. Xenoblade is also "anime ughh" which turns off some people (while many npcs and even link in zelda have a similar japanese cartoon artsyle, small nose, big eyes)
So yeah, sad Xenoblade and Metroid are my favourite game franchises, and both do not sell well. Maybe its my fault sorry xD
@imperfectworks7064 are u kidding me? jrpg sold so well on ps ever since ps1 era than on Nintendo. ff7 tales of arse persona5 yakuza and many others sold at least 5m. Xenoblade series can't even crack 3m. Im sad i hope sony wont take over monolithsoft from Nintendo soon cos that would be suck
@@Rizky-Gumilar FF12, 13 and 15 tho. FF7 remake is selling good, but square said it didnt live to their projections.
Xenobmade series has sell over 3m
Xenoblade 2 alone is like 2.4m XC3 was like 1.9 last time I checked, forgott about XCDE, XCwii and XC3DS
@imperfectworks7064 i really dont want sony to take over Monolithsoft from Nintendo. Im sad seeing Nintendo crumbling like this. Their tech and graphical fidelity is so outdated
@@Rizky-Gumilar I have high hopes for the next game tho, new system, if the rumors of its tech are true with all of the dlss sht and raytracing stuff
They could even create a Xenoblade Klaus trilogy Definitive edition with the updated graphics. The switch issue is having to account for portability, the next one is rumored to be hybrid too but with a few tricks up their sleeve. Have you seen Xenoblade X on WiiU? The biggest Xenoblade maps yet, open world, and in various instances, looking better than the switch Xenoblade games, like water effects.
I really want to see the lighting and art style of the next game, hopefully big maps too and with FR like amount of content per area, exploration and all of that