Qantas Saying Goodbye To Airbus A380
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2023
- Qantas will say goodbye to its Airbus A380s from 2032 onwards as it announces fleet retirement plans following a massive order for new Airbus and Boeing widebody aircraft. This will mark the end of quad-engined flying by the Australian flag carrier for the first time since the introduction of the 747 many decades ago.
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They would be over 20 years old in 2032. It’s actually very good to keep your wide body in service so long
The oldest few would be 24-25 years old while the youngest would be just above 20
2032 is light years away, and because of the huge capacity of the A380, unmatched by any other aircraft, there is plenty of time for Qantas to re-assess their use of this fine plane.
True.
The new CEO might see it necessary to keep the A380.
The A380 is so unlucky. I'll try my best to fly on as many as I can before they disappear from airlines
It's not about luck. It's about Airbus WAY overestimated demand for the plane. The trend to twin widebodies as already well underway when they launched the the 380
Hey at least it even entered service
@@VoraciousAvgeek True
Looks like Thai Airways A380's are on the market.. again..
Open to all bidders in "as is" condition...
Let's see if the a380 market is as strong as everyone says it is !!
They won't sell other than for scrap.
2032 is still a long time.
The phasing out may well start before then that's just a current estimate. If another major downturn hits they will be the first to go. They have already retired 2 of them.
its just an estimate or aim. it could be even earlier
@@nickolliver3021Yep the airline industry is volatile and constantly changing so really hard to predict that far out.. Carriers adjust aircraft deliveries and retirements all the time.
@@johniii8147 I also believe that airlines will be wanting these new 787-10s and just 787s as a whole alit earlier than expected. ( those airlines that have orders for new aircraft beyond 2030 delivery wise). But yes they certainly do
@@nickolliver3021 That will be tough for Boeing since the current backlog is now pushing 800 planes and it's taking time ramp back up production. And we all know their track record of problems in recent years.
2032 is how many years away ? How silly is that headline ?
Was thinking the same thing 🤔..
I'll be 30 by then
The first A380 was in 2008, so by 2032 is a long time to keep an aircraft type. Not a good headline
They have to stop ditching the icons
Definitely
Why? If it doesn't make sense for an airline they cannot keep it. Exactly the same story with A340
Qantas doesn't really need the A380 as they don't fly to slot constrained airports enough to justify the capacity versus efficiency argument that Emirates can or even British Airways can.
tell that to the industry
I'm still trying to figure out why they even made the A380. It was a waste to me.
It was ego and being misled about the actual market. Same with A340 minus the ego factor
I will fly with whoever keeps the A380 ..
pretty much not many airlines who will
This story just helps to solidify the crown belongs squarely on top of the 747, The queen of the skies will out live the A380. Qantas has already scheduled the scrapping of their A380’s.
I’m lucky because I’m going on my first a380 next month.
As there aren't be any further production of this iconic aircraft, the airline operator will definitely have to ponder with newer different version.
It's a shame, but inevitable. I think Emirates will be the last operator of the A380. As a passenger, who has flown on them many times, i think i speak for a lot of us, as i love it. But when it comes to airlines filling them, the maintenence, & running costs, compaired to the new twin jets, the writing was always on the wall!
Indeed mate, indeed
Just to say BA use 4 of their 12 A380’s on just the Jo’burg route every day. Two out and two back. Never know, BA may buy more
I think ANA and BA will be a close 2nd and 3rd
@@charliechristmas5147 they cant buy more
@@Yukis.aviationI think SIA will be 3rd, not ANA.
Not gonna surprise me if they start phasing them out even earlier. They have already retired two of them. If another downturn happens, they will be the first to go.
Sooner there gone the better. Don’t think they will be around as long as your stating.
strange comment....what have you against the A380...??
@@swanvictor887 that it was a complete failure
@@nickolliver3021 by what measure? Airlines made a lot of money with it and Emirates has a lot of business from people like me who will only fly long-haul on the A380 or 747. The only problem for the A380 is that airline accountants want to make larger profits per flights by cramming their victims, sorry, passengers into twin tin-cans which are cheaper to operate.
@@swanvictor887 Airlines made alit of money with it? No! Only Emirates made money on it (profitable) the rest only broke even or did not on the a380. They never filled them up. How are twin planes tin cans and how are they cramming the passengers in? People want luxury in these planes. Sadly the majority accept it and stop complaining about going on smaller twin planes.
@@nickolliver3021
You know that I pick up on comments making unsubstantiated statements of fact, whether they're fans of Airbus or Boeing, so what evidence do you have please that BA, to take an example, fail to make a profit on their A380s, outside Covid restrictions............?
Enjoy them while we can. We already missed out on the 747
Once again, the 747 remains the queen as the longest widebody to fly for passengers and freight. The airplane was always a failure from the start. It didn't even make it 20 years before Airbus scraps the project and airlines retiring their entire fleet of airplane. The airplane was TOO expensive to operate, given it is limited with the airports it can fly to and was a soul sucker during the pandemic.
Darn it was my wish to travel to Australian Qantas a380
Soon it will be the only route Australia-UK.
well you've got 7 odd years so no rush!
@@l2etrangerLA will stick around until they are retired. Large maintenance base their for them.
I expect the executive leasing subsidiary of Emirates will be the last operator after converting 2 or 3 to VIP use including the UAE Airforce One equivalent.
If i don't get a chance to see or fly onboard the Airbus A380 then my life of aviation is over because my parrents are in a difficult situation for not enough money to travel long haul.
Save a few dollers a day..in one year fly somewhere on a 380
In 2032 the A380s would be 20+ years old. I would say that’s an incredible lifespan!
Noooooo! 😢
Ur my favv
Got too enjoy the a380 while it lasts soon we will be reminiscing about it the same way as Concorde..
Qantas Airlines' two principle long-haul airplanes are going to be the Boeing 787, and the A350. The 787, and the A350 have lower operating costs which can be beneficial to the airlines. The remaining quad-jets like the 747, A340, and the A380 would be too expensive to operate, and maintain.
History will not look favourably on the Airbus A380
good report....I suspect Qantas may well extend the A380's two to four years beyond the plan especially if the replacement planes deliveries get slowed down as so often happens.....given their global location(AUSTRALIA).....making the A380 a real asset...my guess is Qantas will be the last to totally remove them from the fleet......
How many have been scrapped to date (across the entire industry)?
I know a total of 40 have been retired so far
@@johniii8147 I wonder how many of them are as an indirect result of covid, with people working from home rather than going on business trips. The after affects of work from home seems to have affected the whole transport industry
I will always support airlines that utilise the A380
That’s a long time, decisions can change.
It would only likely change to get rid of them sooner.
Emirates will go ahead and purchase all of the Qantas A 380's for themselves
2032 will be the year of the third Australian Olympics.
2032, still a long time from now (2023)
will airbus ever redesign the a380: new wings (new winglet w/ split scimitars for fuel efficiency & longer range); new engines (100% saf); new model name ‘A380plus/neo’?
2:55-3:12 i think emirates will be the last a380 user since they rlly love operating the a380 & they have so many a380 planes
To be fair I think AIB themselves will be the last operaror of the A388 as a testbed
Maybe the last operator will be charter service in the 2050s
There won't be any parts or support for them that far out.
It will be 24 years between its introduction to it’s retirement. Similar to the 744ER. Not that shocking
I think the last operator will be ANA. They have such a niche focused service with their 3 whales that I think they will be the last to fly them. Plenty of spare parts for those 3 to keep going.
Can't say that i'm surprised about this move, Airlines are removing quad jets in their fleet as they are being replaced with mire efficient jets, I think Emirates will be the last Airline to retire the A380,
Emirates will be probably last A380 Operator Hopefully it will fly a long time 😀
I Wish Qantas Chose the 777x instead of the A350-1000
Qantas A350-100000 Project Sunrise to replace A380s!
nooooooooo 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Why don’t have qantas fly triple 7’s?
I wouldn’t be surprised if either of the big two come up with a surprise replacement concept for the A380 in the next 4-5 years.
I'd be VERY surprised if either of them did. Market is simply too small and development costs too high.
Look, there simply is NO REPLACEMENT for the 380. those who can will continue to fly the aircraft for as long as they are able. some routes will remain 380 friendly, and I will not be surprised if Qantas itself will utilize the aircraft into the mid 20230s if parts and maintenance jobs are there.
Can they give me one?
They can be had for under 30 million now probably closer to 20
@@johniii8147Plus 6fold of that value to keep it in shape
So John Spartan from Demolition Man we'll be able to fly an A380 for either Qantas or Emirates when he gets thawed from the cryo prison in 2032
Boeing predicted big aircraft would not be too spoken hub wheel is falling apart today cuz a small aircraft and do will not do the spoke wheel hub anymore
Actually the hub and spoke for international carriers hasn't gone anywhere. Still alive and well. They are connecting smaller spokes to the hub/increasing frequency/right sizing based on actual demand/improving profits etc with much lower costs etc. The reality is both the 747 and or 380 were simply too large operating on a good portion of routes. Now the twins have even longer range.
2032...9 years from now. Doesn't seem much like "news" right now.
I think the 380 will leave before that-
I mean if you don’t want the a380, just give it to me.
Still has many years left.
its just an estimate. they may go even earlier if another downturn hits them
Certainly Emirates
It will be Emirates
They don't make money :(
Not true! They make a profit but not enough to satisfy the greedy accountants and shareholders who make more money, cramming us into twin-engined sardine cans! Airlines are not charities: they don't fly any aircraft for the fun of it. The mantra of modern aviation, as run by accountants and shareholders is simple: screw the passenger, bleed them dry, cram them in....
2032 is good enough.
So, by the time this starts to bite QANTAS will have operated the type for nearly 25 years. this demonstrates that much of the "A380 is a failure" hype was wrong.
Yes it was failure in terms of sales and lack of return on investment. Lost tons of money on it.
@@johniii8147 You're good at statistics - how much money.......?
@@artrandy When you factor in the all the costs of development, building production faculties, production costs, the rewiring of the first examples, wing issues etc, the total program was in conservatively in the red by $10-15 billion. There were only 2 or 3 years of production where they sold at higher price than cost to produce ( not accounting for all the sunk costs).
That's too far,
😰
Joyce is just trying to leave the company the way he wants it . These decisions are out the window the day he leaves the Airline .
Not likely. These are contracts.
Utter speculation. Who really knows what will happen. Emirates have 120 of them. They”l be around for many years to come “ in my opinion
Sele it to emirates airlines a380
Nooo 747 no A380
Its hard to find pilots to fly the quadjets that side, Qantas should consider boeing 777 9 since twin jets are easier to train pilots.
2032 onwards? they will be worn out by then.
The oldest will be 24 years old by then!
@@0ne-6right40 It's already been scrapped at about 12 or 13
2032 is light years away, why bother now?? 😂😂
they might be retired earlier than 2032 if another downturn was to hit them
What other option is there ? no a lot ! not very incisive comments from DJ's ? Apart from the A330 neo not featuring, fact that the 777x is not, is the significant feature. No mention of 777x ? whats happening with this aircraft ?
Qantas have not said anything about the 777x so why should DJ?
Qantas isn't ordering the 777X is why. Nothing can really replace the A380 and it's abilities.
They will be in trouble for not getting early enough orders in for the 777X the 350 1000 won’t fill there needs
@@stevesmoneypit6137 says who? You who obviously hates Airbus?
@@stevesmoneypit6137the 777-9 can’t compete with the range that Qantas need, only the A380 and A350-1000 can do that.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. I bet they wished they got the 747-8 (if they had to buy a quad engine)
we need a380neo, to not see our beloved birds go
A380 was never the right jet for the airlines.
If Qantas are not withdrawing the A380 for at least 9 years, then that must be one of the longest goodbyes in aviation history. So they might as well start to wave goodbye to their new orders for A350s and B787s now, for when they eventually depart in maybe 25 years after delivery. Perhaps DJ could produce a video on this pointless subject too.......
bye bye A380 bye bye 747
The A380 came too late, which is why I think it didn't do really well.
Another marvel of engineering scrapped because of money. Had the airline industry support the a380 then future iterations of this airframe would be refined and perfected. Now Airbus will be more cautious than ambitious when it comes to future aircraft designs. Thanks for everything Emirates. Thank for nothing the rest of you airline companies.
Of course it's about money. Both the airlines and and manufactures are in the business to make money.
A380’s will have been service be 20 years plus by 2032.
a lot will be scrapped just over 10 years. these 12 that Qantas have may not make it to 2032