In the full-length video he made a great point about not needing to buy a case. Dumpster diving might not be an option everywhere, but Goodwill and recycling centers (even Staples) sometimes have old cases. Hell, I have seven serviceable cases in my house right now.
Sure that's an "option". But most people would rather not build their PC in some dusty ass, beat up HP/Dell pre-build case from the early 2010s. That's usually the only kind of cases you're going to find. These are not great to build a PC in. No airflow. Id much rather spend $40-$50 on a modular case.
@@yeetus59 You have to consider things in the context of the video. If you can ONLY spend $500 on a PC (which is the going price for a lot of mid-tier laptops) then it's safe to assume every penny counts. Cutting some holes into an older (free) case will be the better option in the short term then if you're financially flexible in the future you can upgrade to a newer case.
@@yeetus59 airflow is only a necessity when you're thinking of making a powerful pc. Of course, for you those 50 bucks may not be a big sacrifice, so you can go for it without a worry, but for someone in a third world country could be a big difference that could've been used for a better hardware somewhere else, or even an impossibility. Or maybe just someone who can't afford it. Besides, you won't get any extra performance at all with just an i3 and a rx 6600
@@7hundred7eventy7Theres also this small channel called T-series which I dont like. It is so small that it takes clips from indian movies, and trademarks it.
He said "You could always upgrade when the price goes down" If you upgrade it into 16GB, you are going overboard and then the build might become $600 later. Keeping the mentality "hey it's only $10 more for the ram, let go over budget" but you might do the same with the RX 6600 and get the 6650xt for "$30" more. Then, you get the 13400f cause it's "$40" more. The video wasn't about "build once, use till it can't", it's about "hey, I have $500, let me build the foundation for the PC, allowing easy upgrades when I have more money"
@@quanghuyvu2649logic does make sense. Until you can’t run half of AAA/Xbox one era with 8GB of ram. I had a 8GB laptop and it was almost unusable in terms of gaming till I upgraded to 16
@@quanghuyvu2649 But the $10 would definitely be worth it, I’m a Linus fan boy and a i disagree with him going 1x8gb, in the benchmarks the system was choking because of the single channel ram
@@Noah-ly9yd Linus was really maximizing every penny he got He could have gone for 16GB of ram but he would have to downgrade the GPU from rx 6600 to gtx 1660 super. That 8gb stick of ram on ebay isn't going anywhere, it will remain there when you have more cash and put in your rig. In fact, the price of ddr4 will drop even further since ddr5 is present. But replacing your 1660 super to a better gpu is a hassle, selling it and then shipping it, only making around $100 since it's second handed and old Yeah, 8gb in single channel sucks but you can upgrade. Going for a gtx 1660 super and having 16GB ram just isn't worth the hassle
@@purplewine7362 I like how you're trying to undermine me only to look retarded. Popularity does not = accurate I know it's a scary thought. GN a smaller tech tuber is way more accurate but ,that's by design. Linus went the "fast food" approach where they don't go too deep but appeal to the majority for how simplistic and easy to understand it is.
Linus is pretty out of touch he was praising 3080ti when that relased which doesn't make any fucking sense as a product for context 3080 and 90 barely had %10 perf diff iirc and ti has only 2 gb of extra vram over 500$ of msrp that made me unsub from him
Its so easy to just add a little more here and there. I tried to build my gf a 600 dollar pc and it ended up being 800 because I wanted it to be upgradeable and that meant buying more modern parts and a bigger psu and nicer case. Plus she wanted some rgb so had to get nice looking ram and fans 😂
Also. He always defends buying used parts. The only reason he does budget builds with new parts is because he is in touch with his community and knows many prefer a lower performance, than to risk losing money with a bad used part or a scammer.
Also a lot of times used won’t even be that much cheaper than new and it comes with zero warranty so you’re fucked if it shits itself outside of the 30 day return period on Ebay for example. Only things I’d think might be worth buying are gpus and cpus if you get a really great deal or maybe a case but even then not having that warranty really sucks
When linus says that a small upgrade for $10 really inflates the budget he really isnt kidding. I did this exact thing and ended up with over $2000 worth of parts when it was supposed to be a small upgrade.
@VoteForFire my aio had just died so i decided to upgrade. I was originally going to order a 7800x3d and a 7900xt but that changed real quick. Oh not bad $100 there $100 here and oh if im doing this i might as well as go top spec. And thats all it took to end up with a 7950x and a red devil 7900xtx. Also the be quiet pure loop 2 fx. With taxes i was well over $2000 easily when it should have cost me around $1200 to $1300 to upgrade.
@@walker1054 just cause he has a succesful business now? ive been watching linus since he was shooting on a camcorder in a rented office room, dude hasnt changed much and is in fact, in touch with reality.
If you expected Linus to be an out of touch elitist, you need to watch more LTT and WAN Show. He literally turned down $100 million for his company because he likes what he does and wanted to protect his employees.
to be fair his company is worth way more than 100 mil but yeah, he really loves what he does, which is to provide good content and information to his viewers.
I mean he's still out of touch and elitist, but not as much as like 90% of the middle class in the US who thinks buying a house is impossible with 12k lmfao
@@edwinfrerichs8674robably more implying the cost of owning and facilitating the ownership of property is unreasonable with a budget of 12k.. Reno properties are still expensive. Loans and equity contracts would probably pay a big part in lowering initial investment to sub 20k
I live in Chile here that set up is over 500$ if you buy brand new parts because of shipping fees and taxes but it is a really nice guide at least in my experience, there are some parts that amazon doesn't sell to south american countries so pcpartpicker came in handy it helped determine if my components were compatible
This sucks for all Latin America. I wish micro center would ship to all Latin America. If you ever come to the US check micro center is one awesome place that will blow you away Nestor .
This video is just ripping off LTT. You aren’t adding anything. LTT has done tons of build guides over the years. Fearing they may be elitist in a budget build makes absolutely no sense. That line was just for drama.
I think content like this, especially as a short, is super OK and adds alot. It's basically a "peer review" negate people shouldn't be blindly trusting big channels. Having someone validate "yea this is a good guide" is just as important as having people ready to call it bad stuff like the verge build video. Especially for people new to the space, the most likely people to be looking up budget beginner builds, it's great having people who can say yea this is reliable.
I think the PC build was great besides the ram. One thing about ram they're always on deals. New egg tends to have 2x 8gb 16gb ram on sale from 30 to 50 dollars.
What's with all the linus meat riding yes he is a seasoned youtuber but, that doesn't make him infallible. In the past he has been wrong a lot and has apologized many times. Most of the tech space knows he more for entertainment than techtips these days (not to say he isn't informative but that takes more of a backseat) and there are better youtubers for the in-depth type stuff than LTT.
I don't think anyone has ever thought Linus was out of touch. If anything, I've only seen comments on how much Linus enjoys connecting to this more casual community.
i mean even if he went for used market let’s be real he’s not gonna find anything cheaper cause parts are already cheaper than ever,unless the case and power supply kinda expensive
Power supply is $40 but it will save you a lot of headache in the future Going cheaper like $20 and then your next payment is going be the house you've burnt down, caused by Aliexpress branded PSU
@@quanghuyvu2649 You should always get a good power supply in case there’s a malfunction in it. If it’s good then most likely if it will burn out, it won’t kill other components
@@quanghuyvu2649 you got be wrong by cheap i mean like 40$ ones like deepcool ,i meant from used market some people sell a 100$ worth power supply they sell it at like 60$ that’s what i meant best price performance
I think it is up to each individual and for a brand new build, $500 is quite budget, u wont find a decent pc for much less than that unless u go with used
It depends on how long the boards sat in stock, newer production boards would have the updated bios but ones sitting on the shelf for awhile would need a bios update
I’ve been looking at laptops (specifically for cad) and it’s so hard when the buying guide starts at 800 and talks about how you really should just go for the 1200 one since it can even run solid works incredibly well. I’ve never used solid works but I’ve heard of it and maybe in the future I’ll need to use it
Solidworks is great for 3D modelling but its quite costly to get access to unless you're a university student or something like that. Fusion 360 is really good though and can be used by anyone.
They use to have a series called scrpayard wars where they had a competition to build the best pc with used parts but after the gpu crisis their haven't been a new one
in a recent Wan show after doing these budget build he talks about finally bringing back scrapyard wars. so if all goes to plan we could be getting another season
Hard disagree. 16gb has pretty much become the minimum nowadays, especially if you’re playing more modern games. And if you have discord or a browser running? You’re going to run out quick. Ram really isn’t that expensive, just spend the extra and you won’t have to worry about upgrading a brand new pc.
@@roowut if your running games with that hardware, you simply cannot run the game at high enough settings to utilize the 16 gb. Depends on the type of games you want to play, but for most 8 gb is fine unless you running cyber punk.
@@zzzenx while most games can run on 8gb, adding another 8 will really help with the performance, win 11 even without anything open can use 4gb which means your game only gets access to the other 4gb
100% Disagree with this. Windows 10 and 11 out of the box uses about 4 GB once your drivers and all that installed. 8GB isn't even close to enough now days. Having 16Gb will not only make your system be more usable day to day but will actually allow you to run games that use more then 4GB of ram which most modern games the past 5+ years do. Will it greatly increase your FPS? No but it sure as hell will reduce the stuttering 10 fold.
you can make the argument that you get a better processor now and upgrade the ram later, it's easier to add another stick of ram rather than changing the CPU which may require changing the MB also and make it overall more expensive since the old CPU is totally wasted when the previous stick of ram is still being used. honestly most of the budget builds are general and it comes down to your plan, budget, timeline, etc
Here is a better updated list with actually good quality parts only downside is PCIE 3.0. -Ryzen 5 5500 85$ -B450M-A II 80$ -16 GB RAM 30$ -Silicon Power A55 512 GB SSD 20$ -Asrock RX 6600 180$ -Versa H18 44$ -Thermaltake BX1 650W 60$ Total: 497$
For only about $25-65 more (your build is about $520 now) using similar parts here's a pcie 4.0 capable system with a waay higher quality, much faster nvme ssd, and likely faster ram. $575 1TB or $555 500GB -Ryzen 5 5600 $130 -ASRock B550m $85 -16gb t-force 3600 CL18 $38 -Crucial P3 plus 1TB $46 OR the 500gb for $25 -AsRock RX 6600 $200 now -Versa H18 $44 -Thermaltake Smart 430w 80+ $33 (adequate for an efficient system like this)
@@tallsz559 SSD matters for loading times in games, reduced texture and asset pop-in, smoother streaming and open-world experiences, quicker game installations and updates. Dislike lol.
that's because they get all important chips from only AMD which saves money, they solder them to their own motherboards so there's no RGB, fancy designs, sockets and everything is directly soldered which again saves a lot of money, then they make everything in bulk which is cheaper for majority of parts, they get games optimized for the console which gains more FPS and finally they sell every console $100 cheaper than it costs them to manufacture it so they lose $100 but they get the money back with crap like PS Plus and other offers that over time make you spend more on the console than you would spend on an equivalent PC that's $200-$300 more expensive
insane to expect Linus being out of touch elitist when he has done so many budget builds over the last 10 years lol, he's way more in-the-touch than you can ever be
Actually no he ain’t, in the past years he’s done about 1 rofl. Yeah Linus is out of Touch, and I don’t believe he is more in touch than Zack. Zack literally does this for a living, as where Linus doesn’t. Yeah sorry but your opinion is wrong 😊
@@reptileescape3619 how do you think linus started? "Zack does this for a living". Linus walked so Zack could run lmao. Linus is the original (and better) Zack. Linus' channel is tech tips, not budget building.
As long as you are willing to salvage computer components that you already own or go to thrift shops for some parts, then that 500 dollar computer can reasonably become a thousand dollar one when some hardware is just reused ones you already have access to. Parts you might already have is the power supply, keyboards, mice, computer case, monitors, cables, ram sticks, and both internal and external storage devices.
@@MrSh0terGamer The tittle does suggest he would review the PC. So clickbait because he reviewed the video. he didn't actually build or benchmark the pc on video
My first and only time building a pc turned into a 1000 dollars about 10 years ago ha. 10 more dollars here and there...oooo, now you need a higher pcu ha. Ooo yeah, you need to buy windows 😂
Guy makes a video of somebody else’s video says the same what the other guy is saying, but still trying to make it anyway, so people think he’s trying to say something else. Useless money, grabbing videos waste of everybody’s time.
That's part of the dilemma though. You could get better performance buying used. But you have no warranty in most cases, especially if you can't go to pick it up in person and actually see it working before you pay. So people on a tight budget are often more likely to buy brand new, just so they can be sure they get working parts with warranty.
@@jordanliu9747 Okay? But it's a lot easier to just buy a 2x8gb kit to begin with 🤣 decent 16gb kits go for about $40... If youre worried about saving a MEASLY $20 on one stick of ram you shouldn't be spending money on a PC... You seriously would rather suffer with single channel speeds? Until one day you decide to make that life changing $20 investment for another 8gb stick? That just isnt realistic. 8gb, especially in single channel, is not usable for gaming in 2023
@@yeetus59 If you buy a second anything e.g. CPU, Motherboard, GPU, Case, PSU etc. you get no benefit (or have to sell the original one) But if you buy a second RAM you get 100% of the added value, until you fill up your 4 RAM slots Hence it's better to spend more up front on the components which you cannot later add on top of with a few extra bucks, this gets you the best balance between value and futureproofing when you're on a budget
Frankly to me this is not a $500 build if you then need to pay taxes and shipping on top. It's probably more of a $600 build once it's all said and done.
@@vandalm9311 I can't be arsed to watch most the stuff that comes out of LTT. And this shorts dude did not mention that the title explicitly states it does not include taxes. However my point still stands. That is NOT a $500 build if taxes are not included. If you ask me, which you are, it's false advertising, just like the prices in stores in Canada and the US, because it's not the price you actually pay for things. Keep in mind that it's trivial for stores to do include taxes in their advertised prices. They just don't do it, because it makes things appear cheaper than it really is.
Buy a tablet or used labtop for 100$ lol I’m pretty it would cost you lore to get the boards and circuits and spend 5 years putting it together yourself
It's reasonable to assume they went with the 12100 over 13100 because they try to make their builds as plug and play friendly as possible. It's a consistency in all their builds that they recommend parts lists that don't require things like bios updates, but if the payoff is big enough they'll include the option anyways.
What is the purpose of this video? You added no real new information. This is video plagiarism lol I realize that my initial comment was wrong. Thank you for replying and pointing it out. I also didn't realize that this short is part of a full video where more information was shared.
@@kelvino5305 There's many newer games that come close to exceeding 16gb, some of them do. Factor in other apps running like a browser, discord, steam etc. and you'll need a couple gigs more. Sure, you could go like, 24? Or something weird like that but the logical step is to just get the 32, especially when they are as cheap as they are.
As someone with 4GB (technically 3.9 for some reason) hearing you say don't build a pc with 8GB in 2023 feels likes like a direct insult targeted towards me.
The single core performance that helps the i3 pretty much dethrones the 3600 in most gaming scenarios. BUT since it's an i3, a cheaper H610M would make way for another stick of memory for dual channel goodness. Upgradability is worse but considering a person is already on tight budget, they might not upgrade at all in a few years.
I started with a $700 budget, shopped around, told myself, "this is only a few bucks more than that other part." My PC ended up being 10x over budget. I built the PC as I bought the components over the course of a year so I didn't see the cost until it was done.
Rosewill is selling there FBM X2 case with 400W power-supply for $43 new right now. Would work great with this system, and those 400W power supplies are pretty reliable from Rosewill.
That's why I use refurbished parts. I got me an I7 4770 for $130.00. I already have an I3 and an I5 but the issue was that I couldn't play Death Stranding Directors Cut don't know why the I5 should have been good enough according to the recommended specs. Surprisingly an I3 with 16gb can play Red Dead Redemption 2 but you can't play Death Stranding.
as someone who had a tiny desktop as cheap as I could go, don't get a small form factor tower unless you literally never plan to upgrade. upgrades can be more expensive to find parts for sff pcs, not to mention the size constraint literally just means some parts are impossible to fit. I just recently bought all the parts for a brand new gaming PC because I can no longer upgrade the one I have and it still sucks.
Screw the case, save on cooling: Mount all your components to a wooden board with some long screws and thick spacers (for airflow). Downside: Components will collect dust faster Upside: It's easier to clean Downside: Won't have the case with RGB looks Upside: Will still look cool, people will definitely ask about it Also, easier to upgrade and swap components.
imo the good alternative is shelling out 50-100 bucks for a decent old pc that can fit an matx motherboard, and keeping the psu if you're on a budget, you can sell the extra parts (i.e. hard drive/cpu/mobo/maybe psu depending on what it is) for like 30 bucks and net you a $20 case.
We have PC builds IN STOCK today at zttbuilds.com 😉
You talk like you've watched only linus videos all day for the last 10 years
He didn't made the part list, I did. It was copied from my Reddit post. #ContentBandit
Would actually consider your shop, if it wasnt last gen low spec parts
proof? @@bigb0ss282
HAHA. You think a stick of ram only cost 10 bucks!! LOLL
In the full-length video he made a great point about not needing to buy a case. Dumpster diving might not be an option everywhere, but Goodwill and recycling centers (even Staples) sometimes have old cases. Hell, I have seven serviceable cases in my house right now.
Sure that's an "option". But most people would rather not build their PC in some dusty ass, beat up HP/Dell pre-build case from the early 2010s. That's usually the only kind of cases you're going to find. These are not great to build a PC in. No airflow. Id much rather spend $40-$50 on a modular case.
@@yeetus59 You have to consider things in the context of the video. If you can ONLY spend $500 on a PC (which is the going price for a lot of mid-tier laptops) then it's safe to assume every penny counts. Cutting some holes into an older (free) case will be the better option in the short term then if you're financially flexible in the future you can upgrade to a newer case.
I donated a NZXT S340 Elite away, didn't seem like used cases should have any value from 7 years ago
@@yeetus59 airflow is only a necessity when you're thinking of making a powerful pc. Of course, for you those 50 bucks may not be a big sacrifice, so you can go for it without a worry, but for someone in a third world country could be a big difference that could've been used for a better hardware somewhere else, or even an impossibility. Or maybe just someone who can't afford it. Besides, you won't get any extra performance at all with just an i3 and a rx 6600
I got an old acer case from an old SFF rig I tore apart for another rig could still be used as is if I can find the of PSU for it
I'm so glad that you're calling out smaller youtubers like LTT. It's good to see them getting attention! Thanks!
I agree, theres this indie channel i like called PewDiePie, its pretty avant garde
@@7hundred7eventy7 There's also this small time philanthropy that goes by "Mr. Beast" he's pretty good I guess
@lachlantrescott5533 seems decent, maybe one day he'll make good money of this fad known as the internet
@@7hundred7eventy7Theres also this small channel called T-series which I dont like. It is so small that it takes clips from indian movies, and trademarks it.
@@GATES-KEEP joke goes over head
That ram is really a sight 😂
He said "You could always upgrade when the price goes down"
If you upgrade it into 16GB, you are going overboard and then the build might become $600 later. Keeping the mentality "hey it's only $10 more for the ram, let go over budget" but you might do the same with the RX 6600 and get the 6650xt for "$30" more. Then, you get the 13400f cause it's "$40" more.
The video wasn't about "build once, use till it can't", it's about "hey, I have $500, let me build the foundation for the PC, allowing easy upgrades when I have more money"
@@quanghuyvu2649logic does make sense. Until you can’t run half of AAA/Xbox one era with 8GB of ram. I had a 8GB laptop and it was almost unusable in terms of gaming till
I upgraded to 16
@@quanghuyvu2649 But the $10 would definitely be worth it, I’m a Linus fan boy and a i disagree with him going 1x8gb, in the benchmarks the system was choking because of the single channel ram
@@Noah-ly9yd Linus was really maximizing every penny he got
He could have gone for 16GB of ram but he would have to downgrade the GPU from rx 6600 to gtx 1660 super.
That 8gb stick of ram on ebay isn't going anywhere, it will remain there when you have more cash and put in your rig. In fact, the price of ddr4 will drop even further since ddr5 is present. But replacing your 1660 super to a better gpu is a hassle, selling it and then shipping it, only making around $100 since it's second handed and old
Yeah, 8gb in single channel sucks but you can upgrade. Going for a gtx 1660 super and having 16GB ram just isn't worth the hassle
@@quanghuyvu2649 yeah but if i were a normal consumer i would spend the extra money
This is like a high school junior varsity player reviewing 1992 Michael Jordan plays.
LIKE REALLY "good job linus" LIKE HE'S NOT THE REASON YOU STARTED YOUR CHANNEL.
Yeahhhhh except linus is more like the fast food of tech
@@The-Antiuh did you know more popular channel worse uh duh
@@purplewine7362 I like how you're trying to undermine me only to look retarded. Popularity does not = accurate I know it's a scary thought. GN a smaller tech tuber is way more accurate but ,that's by design. Linus went the "fast food" approach where they don't go too deep but appeal to the majority for how simplistic and easy to understand it is.
Linus is pretty out of touch he was praising 3080ti when that relased which doesn't make any fucking sense as a product for context 3080 and 90 barely had %10 perf diff iirc and ti has only 2 gb of extra vram over 500$ of msrp that made me unsub from him
I did that thing Linus said… started at a $800 GPU.. talked myself into 1100 for a sapphire 7900xtx.. now I have a 1700 white 4090 :/
How?
I did that too started at 800$ and now around 1k
True, I planned for a 6650xt until I ended up with the 6750xt juuuuust because I wanted to see what a little more could offer
@@jamaicankyng bet you ain't disappointed though
Its so easy to just add a little more here and there. I tried to build my gf a 600 dollar pc and it ended up being 800 because I wanted it to be upgradeable and that meant buying more modern parts and a bigger psu and nicer case. Plus she wanted some rgb so had to get nice looking ram and fans 😂
Also. He always defends buying used parts. The only reason he does budget builds with new parts is because he is in touch with his community and knows many prefer a lower performance, than to risk losing money with a bad used part or a scammer.
The used market is not as good in some areas.
Basically 90% of brand new price but with infinitely more risk.
For some weird reason, in some areas used parts are more expensive than new parts. So you have to be lucky to get cheap but good used parts.
Yea it 100% makes sense for a build guide bc if you want to get used parts that's dependant on location and time of purchase.
Also a lot of times used won’t even be that much cheaper than new and it comes with zero warranty so you’re fucked if it shits itself outside of the 30 day return period on Ebay for example. Only things I’d think might be worth buying are gpus and cpus if you get a really great deal or maybe a case but even then not having that warranty really sucks
@@clemensruis That sound like some old posting or some scalper still trying to hold on for dear life scamming
Bro just questioned Linus. That’s wild.
When linus says that a small upgrade for $10 really inflates the budget he really isnt kidding. I did this exact thing and ended up with over $2000 worth of parts when it was supposed to be a small upgrade.
How is that even possible
@VoteForFire my aio had just died so i decided to upgrade. I was originally going to order a 7800x3d and a 7900xt but that changed real quick. Oh not bad $100 there $100 here and oh if im doing this i might as well as go top spec. And thats all it took to end up with a 7950x and a red devil 7900xtx. Also the be quiet pure loop 2 fx. With taxes i was well over $2000 easily when it should have cost me around $1200 to $1300 to upgrade.
@@HD7970 that was just you being stupid 😂
@@HD7970 bro really overspent for a downgrade
@@ulize. reread it. I had a 7700x and a 6900xt in my system before i upgraded.
"don't build an 8gb pc in this year"
Me with my 4gb and no graphics card
I have a laptop like this, takes forever to load chrome or the wifi glitches
Same but i got lucky wth a gtx mx 335
@@NebulousCrafter it build patience and its good characteristic
for gaming*
@@spdragon2403 true, still getting a new one though
Saying u thought Linus of all people would be out of touch is wild
He is though lol
@@walker1054how exactly?
@@walker1054people are always saying this but I just don't see it
@@walker1054 just cause he has a succesful business now? ive been watching linus since he was shooting on a camcorder in a rented office room, dude hasnt changed much and is in fact, in touch with reality.
If you expected Linus to be an out of touch elitist, you need to watch more LTT and WAN Show. He literally turned down $100 million for his company because he likes what he does and wanted to protect his employees.
to be fair his company is worth way more than 100 mil but yeah, he really loves what he does, which is to provide good content and information to his viewers.
That doesn’t mean he is an elitist, it means he knows the value of his company. The two have nothing to do with each other.
I mean he's still out of touch and elitist, but not as much as like 90% of the middle class in the US who thinks buying a house is impossible with 12k lmfao
@@TheLongDonare... are you saying it is possible to buy a house with 12k?
@@edwinfrerichs8674robably more implying the cost of owning and facilitating the ownership of property is unreasonable with a budget of 12k.. Reno properties are still expensive. Loans and equity contracts would probably pay a big part in lowering initial investment to sub 20k
Linus really knows his stuff when it comes to PC builds. It's impressive how he stays connected to his community.
I live in Chile here that set up is over 500$ if you buy brand new parts because of shipping fees and taxes but it is a really nice guide at least in my experience, there are some parts that amazon doesn't sell to south american countries so pcpartpicker came in handy it helped determine if my components were compatible
This sucks for all Latin America. I wish micro center would ship to all Latin America. If you ever come to the US check micro center is one awesome place that will blow you away Nestor .
@@heribertosarmiento1265 will do, thanks !
@@Nestorhnz de nada mi amigo 👍🏾
This video is just ripping off LTT. You aren’t adding anything. LTT has done tons of build guides over the years. Fearing they may be elitist in a budget build makes absolutely no sense. That line was just for drama.
Agreed. He just mentions all the obvious 😅
that one line ensured 80% of LTT fans aren't going to consider following this channel
I think degrading i3 13100f to i3 12100f and bought 16gb of ram instead of 8gb is a solid opinion tho
@@DooDee0608yes that was what this UA-camr contributed and honestly 8GB won’t cut it with modern bloated win10 and 2015+ games anymore.
I think content like this, especially as a short, is super OK and adds alot. It's basically a "peer review" negate people shouldn't be blindly trusting big channels. Having someone validate "yea this is a good guide" is just as important as having people ready to call it bad stuff like the verge build video. Especially for people new to the space, the most likely people to be looking up budget beginner builds, it's great having people who can say yea this is reliable.
I think the PC build was great besides the ram. One thing about ram they're always on deals. New egg tends to have 2x 8gb 16gb ram on sale from 30 to 50 dollars.
Bro just roasted Linus by saying its a good job 😂😂
Linus doesn’t need anyone to review his setup and giving a comment. Linus is a legend already.
@dereks_zd6607 Yes, fully agree, just that this clip is darn funny 😁
That good job felt like if a pupil said good job to his maters work
What's with all the linus meat riding yes he is a seasoned youtuber but, that doesn't make him infallible. In the past he has been wrong a lot and has apologized many times. Most of the tech space knows he more for entertainment than techtips these days (not to say he isn't informative but that takes more of a backseat) and there are better youtubers for the in-depth type stuff than LTT.
@@The-Anti linus still does better review than most
I don't think anyone has ever thought Linus was out of touch. If anything, I've only seen comments on how much Linus enjoys connecting to this more casual community.
People see one video of Linus getting excited about cool server tech like the $10k+ Hopper AI GPUs and assume that he only does expensive stuff now
Never doubt Linus
Expecting Linus to be "a bit of en elitest" is a really poor take
He is
He thinks 2000$ is cheap 😹😹😹
@@SMCwasTakenin the PC world, it is. It can get you a fairly high end machine, but it's on the cheaper side of gaming PCs.
@@UTGuy2015 Bro what
@@novaplex4024 hes not wrong, theoretically with the evolution and pricing, that really is high mid tier.
i mean even if he went for used market let’s be real he’s not gonna find anything cheaper cause parts are already cheaper than ever,unless the case and power supply kinda expensive
Power supply is $40 but it will save you a lot of headache in the future
Going cheaper like $20 and then your next payment is going be the house you've burnt down, caused by Aliexpress branded PSU
@@quanghuyvu2649 You should always get a good power supply in case there’s a malfunction in it. If it’s good then most likely if it will burn out, it won’t kill other components
@@quanghuyvu2649 you got be wrong by cheap i mean like 40$ ones like deepcool ,i meant from used market some people sell a 100$ worth power supply they sell it at like 60$ that’s what i meant best price performance
To be fair thats the beauty of building a PC. You can start out with budget parts but then expand on it as you go
Bro tried to dog on linus💀💀
I thought mid is 700$ to 500$ and buget being 450$ to 300$
Budget is up to $600 and midrange is $600-$1000
I think it is up to each individual and for a brand new build, $500 is quite budget, u wont find a decent pc for much less than that unless u go with used
@@Noah-ly9yd damm wtf i thought 1000 was high
@@Mypic-isnot-what-it-looks-like 1000 is still pretty low
@@tweex4952 $1000-$1200 is what you'd like for a PC build in 2023, especially if it's just for gaming and productivity.
What’s funny is I have the 13100f and a 660 motherboard… I didn’t need to bios update it works fine
Probably depends on how new the motherboard is (assuming they keep them up to date when in storage or whatever) or the model of motherboard
It depends on how long the boards sat in stock, newer production boards would have the updated bios but ones sitting on the shelf for awhile would need a bios update
I have also been inspired by his video but opted for a 13400 instead and I didn’t need a bios update either
@@zanderpicon nice, that just means that board was manufactured after 13th gen was launched
My budget was $500 i ended up at $650 by the time i finished the build lol
Hahaha
Based
same
I’ve been looking at laptops (specifically for cad) and it’s so hard when the buying guide starts at 800 and talks about how you really should just go for the 1200 one since it can even run solid works incredibly well. I’ve never used solid works but I’ve heard of it and maybe in the future I’ll need to use it
Solidworks is great for 3D modelling but its quite costly to get access to unless you're a university student or something like that. Fusion 360 is really good though and can be used by anyone.
My advice, lie and tell them your Credit card has an $800 limit. They will find you something if the other option is, you walking out.
They use to have a series called scrpayard wars where they had a competition to build the best pc with used parts but after the gpu crisis their haven't been a new one
in a recent Wan show after doing these budget build he talks about finally bringing back scrapyard wars. so if all goes to plan we could be getting another season
And you definitely don’t want one stick of 16gb in 2023
it's not like the i3-13100F would get more performance with dual channel RAM
Can you please make a $500/$750/$1000 Gaming setup budget since I'm poor ( also recommend a good cheap router wired )
He actually did several months ago. Just legit search up ZTT $500... etc and you`ll see it
lmfao just make the 500 dollar one in this video bruh
That's just, your opinion. I agree with Linus's choices, need 16gb ram? Ehhhh nah it's nice but not needed. You can always buy another stick later.
Hard disagree. 16gb has pretty much become the minimum nowadays, especially if you’re playing more modern games. And if you have discord or a browser running? You’re going to run out quick. Ram really isn’t that expensive, just spend the extra and you won’t have to worry about upgrading a brand new pc.
@@roowut if your running games with that hardware, you simply cannot run the game at high enough settings to utilize the 16 gb. Depends on the type of games you want to play, but for most 8 gb is fine unless you running cyber punk.
@@zzzenx while most games can run on 8gb, adding another 8 will really help with the performance, win 11 even without anything open can use 4gb which means your game only gets access to the other 4gb
100% Disagree with this. Windows 10 and 11 out of the box uses about 4 GB once your drivers and all that installed. 8GB isn't even close to enough now days. Having 16Gb will not only make your system be more usable day to day but will actually allow you to run games that use more then 4GB of ram which most modern games the past 5+ years do. Will it greatly increase your FPS? No but it sure as hell will reduce the stuttering 10 fold.
for windows 10 maybe, Windows 11 is an absolute RAM hog 💀
you can make the argument that you get a better processor now and upgrade the ram later, it's easier to add another stick of ram rather than changing the CPU which may require changing the MB also and make it overall more expensive since the old CPU is totally wasted when the previous stick of ram is still being used. honestly most of the budget builds are general and it comes down to your plan, budget, timeline, etc
“whats an extra $10” took me from 1200 to 1600
Love that buddy doesn’t think LTT knows what they’re talking about
Here is a better updated list with actually good quality parts only downside is PCIE 3.0.
-Ryzen 5 5500 85$
-B450M-A II 80$
-16 GB RAM 30$
-Silicon Power A55 512 GB SSD 20$
-Asrock RX 6600 180$
-Versa H18 44$
-Thermaltake BX1 650W 60$
Total: 497$
For only about $25-65 more (your build is about $520 now) using similar parts here's a pcie 4.0 capable system with a waay higher quality, much faster nvme ssd, and likely faster ram.
$575 1TB or $555 500GB
-Ryzen 5 5600 $130
-ASRock B550m $85
-16gb t-force 3600 CL18 $38
-Crucial P3 plus 1TB $46
OR the 500gb for $25
-AsRock RX 6600 $200 now
-Versa H18 $44
-Thermaltake Smart 430w 80+ $33 (adequate for an efficient system like this)
@@yeetus59Never heard of a 430watt PSU🤔. Anyway, really? Only 400ish watt though?
@@yeetus59 SSD doesn’t matter for gaming. You cheaped out on the important stuff.
I would have upgraded to a 6600 XT.
@@tallsz559 SSD matters for loading times in games, reduced texture and asset pop-in, smoother streaming and open-world experiences, quicker game installations and updates. Dislike lol.
@@akirakeiko False
my guy really graded linus the goat 😭
I remember when $500 PCs would destroy a PS4/PS4 Pro back then but now no PC can match the price/performance of a PS5 digital for $400
that's because they get all important chips from only AMD which saves money, they solder them to their own motherboards so there's no RGB, fancy designs, sockets and everything is directly soldered which again saves a lot of money, then they make everything in bulk which is cheaper for majority of parts, they get games optimized for the console which gains more FPS and finally they sell every console $100 cheaper than it costs them to manufacture it so they lose $100 but they get the money back with crap like PS Plus and other offers that over time make you spend more on the console than you would spend on an equivalent PC that's $200-$300 more expensive
Bro is literally farming LTT more than Linus himself
insane to expect Linus being out of touch elitist when he has done so many budget builds over the last 10 years lol, he's way more in-the-touch than you can ever be
Actually no he ain’t, in the past years he’s done about 1 rofl.
Yeah Linus is out of Touch, and I don’t believe he is more in touch than Zack. Zack literally does this for a living, as where Linus doesn’t. Yeah sorry but your opinion is wrong 😊
@@reptileescape3619 an opinion, by definition, can never be wrong. @ifee ccc just spoke the truth
@@ScottishFish your opinion is wrong as well
@@reptileescape3619 how do you think linus started? "Zack does this for a living". Linus walked so Zack could run lmao. Linus is the original (and better) Zack. Linus' channel is tech tips, not budget building.
I’ve been watching him and know him since his NCIX days. He’s not out of touch or an elitist
That new arc will make budget builds a bit better imo
Very noble of ZTT to review LTT.
How are you gonna do a bios update if you cant even use the motherboard💀
Bios flashback and some retailers will also do it for you if you ask
As long as you are willing to salvage computer components that you already own or go to thrift shops for some parts, then that 500 dollar computer can reasonably become a thousand dollar one when some hardware is just reused ones you already have access to. Parts you might already have is the power supply, keyboards, mice, computer case, monitors, cables, ram sticks, and both internal and external storage devices.
I would trust Linus’ word over my own mother, he’s never done me dirty
Me upgrading my computer saying I’m not gonna go over 500… proceeds to go over 700
right now you can get "lightly mined with" gpus like 3060ti used online to save few bucks
Lame click bait with no content.
@@MrSh0terGamer The tittle does suggest he would review the PC. So clickbait because he reviewed the video. he didn't actually build or benchmark the pc on video
"Well it's just 10 bucks more, then suddenly you end up with a 600 dollar build"
Me who went from a 2500 USD build to a 5500 USD build: 🗿
Linus is always on top of PC builds. It's amazing how he stays connected to his community.
The thing with building a $500 PC is that it can easily be upgraded down the line
The pupil saying good job to the master is ironic
"Don't build a PC with 8GB's in 2023"
My ass struggling with a 4GB:
“definitely don’t get 8gb ram in 2023”
me with 4gb:
My first and only time building a pc turned into a 1000 dollars about 10 years ago ha. 10 more dollars here and there...oooo, now you need a higher pcu ha. Ooo yeah, you need to buy windows 😂
You never need to "buy" windows 😉
@@Dextya or if you do, get a key of some suspicious site for 5 bucks
I love my rx 6600
This dude commenting on Linus and his ability to build a pc is the same thing as if a chicken commented on a hens ability to birth eggs
im sure linus is feeling much better knowing he got a thumbs up from zachstechturf
Linus is down to earth and in touch with budgeting, even if he is worth millions.
I like how you say "Linus" as if you are friemds and personally know each other
This aged well
Well the 500$ build is good, and aged well, but not linus
Guy makes a video of somebody else’s video says the same what the other guy is saying, but still trying to make it anyway, so people think he’s trying to say something else. Useless money, grabbing videos waste of everybody’s time.
Except he also added his own input of downgrading the CPU and upgrading the RAM....soooo
And Lie-nus really doesn't like spending $500 either...
Tbf linus has often said buy used. He's done used guides before but he also knows a lot of people won't but they're still on a tight budget
That's part of the dilemma though. You could get better performance buying used. But you have no warranty in most cases, especially if you can't go to pick it up in person and actually see it working before you pay.
So people on a tight budget are often more likely to buy brand new, just so they can be sure they get working parts with warranty.
"whats $10 more?"
exactly how i turned my $1800 pc budget to a $2600 build
I still dont understand Linus' thought process behind buying 8gb of ram on 2023
Because it's easy to add more later
@@jordanliu9747 Okay? But it's a lot easier to just buy a 2x8gb kit to begin with 🤣 decent 16gb kits go for about $40... If youre worried about saving a MEASLY $20 on one stick of ram you shouldn't be spending money on a PC... You seriously would rather suffer with single channel speeds? Until one day you decide to make that life changing $20 investment for another 8gb stick? That just isnt realistic. 8gb, especially in single channel, is not usable for gaming in 2023
@@yeetus59
If you buy a second anything e.g. CPU, Motherboard, GPU, Case, PSU etc. you get no benefit (or have to sell the original one)
But if you buy a second RAM you get 100% of the added value, until you fill up your 4 RAM slots
Hence it's better to spend more up front on the components which you cannot later add on top of with a few extra bucks, this gets you the best balance between value and futureproofing when you're on a budget
Frankly to me this is not a $500 build if you then need to pay taxes and shipping on top. It's probably more of a $600 build once it's all said and done.
Then what do you expect? 500$ BUILD (TAXES AND SHIPPING NOT INCLUDED) title ?
@@vandalm9311 I can't be arsed to watch most the stuff that comes out of LTT. And this shorts dude did not mention that the title explicitly states it does not include taxes.
However my point still stands. That is NOT a $500 build if taxes are not included.
If you ask me, which you are, it's false advertising, just like the prices in stores in Canada and the US, because it's not the price you actually pay for things.
Keep in mind that it's trivial for stores to do include taxes in their advertised prices. They just don't do it, because it makes things appear cheaper than it really is.
Linus is far more experienced. Why he talking like he's the veteran
He did his budget right. So many people can’t stick to a budget. But he did it perfectly and built a decent computer
Please I want to ask you for a 100$ budget pc
Buy a tablet or used labtop for 100$ lol I’m pretty it would cost you lore to get the boards and circuits and spend 5 years putting it together yourself
Tbh you're better off buying an used semi-ancient machine at that price point.
"Good job Linus 👍" 🤓
It's reasonable to assume they went with the 12100 over 13100 because they try to make their builds as plug and play friendly as possible. It's a consistency in all their builds that they recommend parts lists that don't require things like bios updates, but if the payoff is big enough they'll include the option anyways.
What is the purpose of this video? You added no real new information. This is video plagiarism lol
I realize that my initial comment was wrong. Thank you for replying and pointing it out. I also didn't realize that this short is part of a full video where more information was shared.
He reviewed the guide and added something to it (stepping 1 gen lower to get 16gb included, which is good advise for a budget gamer)
I wouldn’t go less then 32 in 2023
that is why i didn't
16GB is still enough in 2023 actually theres no reason to have more unless you have a server or a workstation.
@@kelvino5305 msfs uses like 24gb of my ram so 16 is not enough for intensive games
@@kelvino5305 There's many newer games that come close to exceeding 16gb, some of them do. Factor in other apps running like a browser, discord, steam etc. and you'll need a couple gigs more.
Sure, you could go like, 24? Or something weird like that but the logical step is to just get the 32, especially when they are as cheap as they are.
@@kelvino5305 escape from tarkov needs more than that 90% of the time
It is easier to get 8 gigs later than to replace cpu
I'm still waiting for those "And I've got some thoughts".
If only people could add an another stick of RAM later on.
Ah, but alas.
His channel is literally called "LINUS TECH TIPS" with millions of subscribers
Bruhhh
As someone with 4GB (technically 3.9 for some reason) hearing you say don't build a pc with 8GB in 2023 feels likes like a direct insult targeted towards me.
ryzen 5 3600 new is $79, with a b450 combo you save enough for 16gb 2 stick kit
The single core performance that helps the i3 pretty much dethrones the 3600 in most gaming scenarios. BUT since it's an i3, a cheaper H610M would make way for another stick of memory for dual channel goodness. Upgradability is worse but considering a person is already on tight budget, they might not upgrade at all in a few years.
this could be a good parts list for someone upgrading their current build but re-using their case and psu
I started with a $700 budget, shopped around, told myself, "this is only a few bucks more than that other part." My PC ended up being 10x over budget. I built the PC as I bought the components over the course of a year so I didn't see the cost until it was done.
Rosewill is selling there FBM X2 case with 400W power-supply for $43 new right now. Would work great with this system, and those 400W power supplies are pretty reliable from Rosewill.
That's why I use refurbished parts. I got me an I7 4770 for $130.00. I already have an I3 and an I5 but the issue was that I couldn't play Death Stranding Directors Cut don't know why the I5 should have been good enough according to the recommended specs. Surprisingly an I3 with 16gb can play Red Dead Redemption 2 but you can't play Death Stranding.
Had the same GPU in that build.
Going strong 1 year later of heavy, heavy usage.
Nice biceps
"This parts list is pretty impressive" then proceeds to give suggestions on how to make it better in the same breath lol
I'm sure Linus can sleep better knowing he has your acknowledgment an thumbs up
Can you do a 300$ PC build?
When on a budget. 2nd hand old gen high end cards are the way to go.
Spending the extra 10 on the cpu was a good choice because 13th gen is the only architecture that supports ddr4 AND ddr5. Gives you room to upgrade
as someone who had a tiny desktop as cheap as I could go, don't get a small form factor tower unless you literally never plan to upgrade. upgrades can be more expensive to find parts for sff pcs, not to mention the size constraint literally just means some parts are impossible to fit. I just recently bought all the parts for a brand new gaming PC because I can no longer upgrade the one I have and it still sucks.
My first PC had a $40 case, and even now it's hard for me to justify spending over $100 on a case. There are so many options nowadays.
Hey! That's my case! It doesnt suck! I have all my rgb accessories matched to the exact shade of orange!
Screw the case, save on cooling: Mount all your components to a wooden board with some long screws and thick spacers (for airflow).
Downside: Components will collect dust faster
Upside: It's easier to clean
Downside: Won't have the case with RGB looks
Upside: Will still look cool, people will definitely ask about it
Also, easier to upgrade and swap components.
Enermax have some decent PSUs in their lineup.
16GB is starting to become iffy.
I've got the rx6600 and it's not let me down for 1080p gaming
imo the good alternative is shelling out 50-100 bucks for a decent old pc that can fit an matx motherboard, and keeping the psu if you're on a budget, you can sell the extra parts (i.e. hard drive/cpu/mobo/maybe psu depending on what it is) for like 30 bucks and net you a $20 case.
you need a bios update with the 12100f too in most cases.. they werent in the first line of 12th cpu series so they were added in bios updates later..
He Said in the Video why He used 8GB RAM. Because as soon as you have some spare Change, you can Just get a Second Stick.