In Depth Coverage Cobourg Encampment November 8, 2024

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  • @Imad_Oofus
    @Imad_Oofus Місяць тому +3

    The county should be holding Jenni Frenke and Tony Mercieca liable for the clean-up. They spearheaded a GoFundMe that raised around $25,000 for the homeless for tents, stoves, cooking accessories, etc.

  • @sherylfallon3031
    @sherylfallon3031 Місяць тому +10

    Disgusting that all that garbage is left behind! Any idiot can pick up after themselves. And I’m sure those tents are worth a fortune! Winter camping is a real thing and it’s costly.

    • @missf4681
      @missf4681 Місяць тому +2

      @@sherylfallon3031 ya they will give tgem all new ones on the taxpayers dime

  • @margaretlachner6011
    @margaretlachner6011 Місяць тому +5

    Sat. Nov 9/24
    I'm in Trenton, but I'm familiar with Cobourg and Port Hope. It is unbelievable , the number of homeless. Cobourg was doing everything they could to help these people and this is their gratitude?? Shame on them!

  • @MelMcKnight-c2f
    @MelMcKnight-c2f Місяць тому +9

    Clearly none of that stuff was needed, so it should be ensured they aren't given the same things again.

    • @minusculemomma561
      @minusculemomma561 Місяць тому

      Yep, that makes total sense. Yep, let's refuse to give safety gear because at one time no one needed it.... Why be prepared, am I right?

    • @drunknomore1
      @drunknomore1 Місяць тому

      You sound like a fascist. I assume you would have aligned with Hitler on taking everything the Jews had.

    • @CobourgDowntowner
      @CobourgDowntowner Місяць тому +1

      @@drunknomore1disgusting comment to make. Calling people fascists or Hitler does not work anymore.

    • @MelMcKnight-c2f
      @MelMcKnight-c2f Місяць тому +1

      @minusculemomma561 then give them back the discarded items and not new things.

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@minusculemomma561Be prepared? Having safety gear while tweaked out or jonesing does not really make “total sense”. Many fires have taken place there that required First Responders.

  • @johnc8112
    @johnc8112 Місяць тому +9

    310 King St purchase is a huge waste of the local property tax payer funds.

    • @gidget4971
      @gidget4971 Місяць тому +1

      It will ruin our beautiful downtown

  • @DorothySinclair-x3l
    @DorothySinclair-x3l Місяць тому +7

    WTF? what would they need a trailer
    hitch for?? And parts of a motor??? They stolen off people's vehicles??? Seriously why arent they being charged for stealing ???? If it were someone else they would be, omfg they get away with murder

    • @missf4681
      @missf4681 Місяць тому +1

      @@DorothySinclair-x3l tge judges just let them back out. One woman In I think it was Windsor this woman druggie attacked her and tried to take her dog. She assaulted her. The cops came they knew who she was she has wait for it 101 assaulted charges against her already she is still on tge street. Let that sink in. Turdos vision for Canada isn't it wonderful
      .

  • @larrythompson2967
    @larrythompson2967 Місяць тому +7

    Funny how this problem is ALWAYS someone else's fault, the government, the neighbours, the parents....................when I started out in life it certainly wasn't easy, had two jobs until I was married, then I had three. Worked hard without assistance from anyone, now I'm a senior, and still don't get any assistance from anyone. I'm not complaining, just making a point. There are certainly some people in these groups that need some kind of help but, I bet that the majority would be ok if they got up and tried to better themselves instead of stealing, begging, and expecting life to be free and easy, oh, and got away from drugs and alcohol? Just my 2 cents.......................

    • @gidget4971
      @gidget4971 Місяць тому +1

      I agree with my 2 cents as well 😮😮

  • @Fuzzy-_-Logic
    @Fuzzy-_-Logic Місяць тому +6

    So aliens took the people away? Was the encampment attacked by zombies?

  • @douglasblundell
    @douglasblundell Місяць тому +5

    Have all the people been moved out of the encampment now? Where is everyone? What a mess that has been left.

    • @rileyolesky9189
      @rileyolesky9189 Місяць тому

      It sounds like all but a few people have been removed. As for where they’ve relocated- I woke up this morning to a massive tent with people in it and vicious dogs by my house. Very upsetting and unfortunate

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому

      @@rileyolesky9189I am sorry to hear this. what area of cobourg?

  • @DorothySinclair-x3l
    @DorothySinclair-x3l Місяць тому +12

    They should find all those people and tell them to go pick up their shit, what are they friggin lazy, most of that is all stolen property, look at the bike pieces, unbelievable, and the enablers, call the cops on people that went there to see if they can get their stolen property back, why not? They just left their shit up and left, maybe the enablers can go and pick up their shit, since they say they help them, go pick their shit up, why should the tax payers cover all their costs for everything, they've been living off of us... unbelievable it is 😠

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  Місяць тому +2

      @@DorothySinclair-x3l Today's Northumberland
      Editorial - Days Left Till the End of Encampment But Who Is On The Hook for Clean-Up?
      “Shocking” is one word that could describe the encampment at the former Brookside Youth Centre in Cobourg.
      Today’s Northumberland took a walkabout on what is hoped to be one of the final day’s of the encampment at 390 King Street East for over a year.
      Most of the tents are empty, most of the residents are gone, but during the walk through on Friday, November 8, 2024 there were at least two people. One person spoke with Today’s Northumberland and said she has hopes for being housed, but nothing is certain.
      Some areas of the encampment look more like a junkyard .
      Every type of bicycle part can be found nearly anywhere within site of the encampment.
      Most tents or structures are now filled with what seems to be garbage.
      Speaking of tents, it’s believed most of the tents were supplied by people who believed they were helping the individuals.
      Today’s Northumberland would never doubt they had the best of intentions, but did they really “help” or just enable?
      Empty propane tanks are scattered around the area, at least two wood stoves were set up and had been working recently.
      At least three lawnmowers, parts of a engine - even a trailer hitch.
      One very concerning item was a covered generator that was also working just a few days ago. Nearby, a number of gas cans. A tarp over the generator appears to have been burned somewhat, but appeared to have been extinguished. Nearby were three empty fire extinguishers.
      If this is truly the end of the encampment, it’s only be a sheer miracle that people weren’t killed.
      Whether services like the fire department weren’t allowed, or just turned a blind eye to violations that surely would have been dealt with if it were anywhere else but on Provincial lands.
      Rules, laws are set in place for a reason. If they can’t be enforced - what’s the sense of having them.
      If there had been a tragedy, whose responsibility would it fall under if laws weren’t enforced?
      There were numerous shopping carts around the area - some filled, some empty.
      Cobourg Police were on a mission earlier this year to have a round-up of shopping carts.
      That public awareness must have come and gone because no one seemed to care about these.
      At the time, they even published name/s of people who were in possession of them.
      Made a great press release at the time, but must be yesterday’s news.
      Two bow-and-arrows were found at various locations throughout the encampment.
      One was made of wood, but the other was made of steel cable and a wire.
      Local police were just outside the entrance to the encampment. Today’s Northumberland let the officers know about the items and shortly after the bow-and-arrows were taken by police.
      On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 it’s believed the property will change hands. At that point, signs will likely go up giving who is left living at the encampment a 72-hour notice. It’s been done in the past at other local encampments and will likely happen here.
      But who will clean up the mess, the garbage, the tents?
      Perception wise - it might be an idea for those people that brought residents of the encampment tents, water, propane, harm reduction supplies, food and other supplies that were needed to till now, to step up and do the hard work and clean-up.
      Even with the best of intentions - someone has to clean-up what’s behind.

    • @heidimisfeldt5685
      @heidimisfeldt5685 Місяць тому +1

      * I surely hope that you will never have to walk in their shoes. Because things would look quite differently to a person in their predicament.
      * I am certain that not all homeless are hopeless nor all are addicts. Neither are they all criminals.
      * What is desperately needed, is a whole lot more of affordable housing, without absolutely endless waiting lists.
      * Some homeless are employed hard working people. But without a place to live.
      * I am sure that fast food and the laundromat end up being very expensive too, but what choice is there ...

    • @heidimisfeldt5685
      @heidimisfeldt5685 Місяць тому +1

      Looks like random metal from the curb, as these items can be sold.

    • @amazemebridge
      @amazemebridge Місяць тому +2

      @@heidimisfeldt5685 even homeless people can care about and their surroundings and how their actions can affect other people.

  • @RCRC-g7t
    @RCRC-g7t Місяць тому +3

    They would turn an apartment into the same disaster zone.

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому +1

      They already are at a rental house nearby. Most have likely gone there. Will be evicted for whatever reason and complain “human rights”. Same as when drug dens shut down before by town. NEVER their responsibility.

  • @Jasemathison
    @Jasemathison Місяць тому +2

    They relocated them or moved them somewhere? Fact was most were there for a reason, they usually are. Like not paying rent instead buying drugs. Criminal history where they violated peoples trust, big surprise here? Not really, it surprised me they would provide places to live free though.

  • @thevultrantransituniverse1487
    @thevultrantransituniverse1487 Місяць тому +5

    Encampments are universal across Canada as cost of living continues to soar.

    • @Anna-g3s
      @Anna-g3s Місяць тому +15

      Except this is an encampment of drug addicts that don’t pay for anything.

    • @minusculemomma561
      @minusculemomma561 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@Anna-g3sI know of at least two people who lived there over the summer who were young HARD working adults. Thing is, they don't make 5k+ monthly to be approved for an apartment in Northumberland( you need to make 3x the rent to qualify) No parent or family to co-sign a lease. No way to save on a down payment for a house. Etc. It's not only drug addicts. And that mind set is why they go next to no help from the community they grew up in. Being shamed by people who used to call their deceased parents friends. 25 and 29 years old. College graduates, with fan-fucking-tastic resumes. They were getting dressed in suits, getting onto the bus ( they sold their cars to save money on gas and insurance in order to save for an apartment) then going to work every damn day, just to go home to a cold tent and be called every name in the book by their peers.
      What a disgrace this town has become.

    • @SonyaJohns-bd2pj
      @SonyaJohns-bd2pj Місяць тому +7

      My friends experience at the encampment was totally different from your experience.
      All were drug addicts. The encampment was strategically placed at brookside by Missy as a protest for tiny homes. Once the promise of tiny homes disappeared advocates disappeared and so did the people living there. All would have had somewhere to live with loving families but some wanted to continue doing drugs. Some decided to stop and chose rehab.
      How long did your friends stay there and how did they get out?
      My friend stayed one day. A drug addict herself.

    • @SonyaJohns-bd2pj
      @SonyaJohns-bd2pj Місяць тому +8

      As the drug crisis continues to rise because of governments failed drug policies. We have a drug crisis causing a homeless crisis.

    • @apprenticephil649
      @apprenticephil649 Місяць тому +4

      @@minusculemomma561maybe you should take them in if they are upstanding citizens?

  • @juliejohnson5626
    @juliejohnson5626 Місяць тому

    Wow that generator can cause Carbon Monoxide poisoning being covered like that

  • @jeil5676
    @jeil5676 Місяць тому +1

    Cobourg ontario?

  • @DorothySinclair-x3l
    @DorothySinclair-x3l Місяць тому

    Town should get more strict on this, no other town wants this either

  • @heidimisfeldt5685
    @heidimisfeldt5685 Місяць тому +2

    WHERE are the people, I see nobody. Just stuff left behind.

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  Місяць тому

      @@heidimisfeldt5685 Today's Northumberland
      Editorial - Days Left Till the End of Encampment But Who Is On The Hook for Clean-Up?
      “Shocking” is one word that could describe the encampment at the former Brookside Youth Centre in Cobourg.
      Today’s Northumberland took a walkabout on what is hoped to be one of the final day’s of the encampment at 390 King Street East for over a year.
      Most of the tents are empty, most of the residents are gone, but during the walk through on Friday, November 8, 2024 there were at least two people. One person spoke with Today’s Northumberland and said she has hopes for being housed, but nothing is certain.
      Some areas of the encampment look more like a junkyard .
      Every type of bicycle part can be found nearly anywhere within site of the encampment.
      Most tents or structures are now filled with what seems to be garbage.
      Speaking of tents, it’s believed most of the tents were supplied by people who believed they were helping the individuals.
      Today’s Northumberland would never doubt they had the best of intentions, but did they really “help” or just enable?
      Empty propane tanks are scattered around the area, at least two wood stoves were set up and had been working recently.
      At least three lawnmowers, parts of a engine - even a trailer hitch.
      One very concerning item was a covered generator that was also working just a few days ago. Nearby, a number of gas cans. A tarp over the generator appears to have been burned somewhat, but appeared to have been extinguished. Nearby were three empty fire extinguishers.
      If this is truly the end of the encampment, it’s only be a sheer miracle that people weren’t killed.
      Whether services like the fire department weren’t allowed, or just turned a blind eye to violations that surely would have been dealt with if it were anywhere else but on Provincial lands.
      Rules, laws are set in place for a reason. If they can’t be enforced - what’s the sense of having them.
      If there had been a tragedy, whose responsibility would it fall under if laws weren’t enforced?
      There were numerous shopping carts around the area - some filled, some empty.
      Cobourg Police were on a mission earlier this year to have a round-up of shopping carts.
      That public awareness must have come and gone because no one seemed to care about these.
      At the time, they even published name/s of people who were in possession of them.
      Made a great press release at the time, but must be yesterday’s news.
      Two bow-and-arrows were found at various locations throughout the encampment.
      One was made of wood, but the other was made of steel cable and a wire.
      Local police were just outside the entrance to the encampment. Today’s Northumberland let the officers know about the items and shortly after the bow-and-arrows were taken by police.
      On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 it’s believed the property will change hands. At that point, signs will likely go up giving who is left living at the encampment a 72-hour notice. It’s been done in the past at other local encampments and will likely happen here.
      But who will clean up the mess, the garbage, the tents?
      Perception wise - it might be an idea for those people that brought residents of the encampment tents, water, propane, harm reduction supplies, food and other supplies that were needed to till now, to step up and do the hard work and clean-up.
      Even with the best of intentions - someone has to clean-up what’s behind.

  • @DorothySinclair-x3l
    @DorothySinclair-x3l Місяць тому +3

    Give them a time limit to get their shit, if they don't come and get it, then they don't care, let the people see if their stolen property is there and if not, all goes to the dump, actual homeless people wouldn't have their things like that, i think they would try and live a bit decent, and want the help, sorry, but those are mostly addicts, that live like that, they don't care

    • @missf4681
      @missf4681 Місяць тому

      @@DorothySinclair-x3l unfortunately there where some poor people. Just working poor and they are forced to live there because thete was no where else to go. They are working but can't afford rent. One guy my friend knows lost his apt to reo-victions . But alot of them are druggies ive seen them at the bank some with their workers. Just off the wall behavior

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому

      Not “mostly” addicts. All of them are. Encampment squatters have said numerous times on video.

  • @tylerdurden8378
    @tylerdurden8378 Місяць тому +2

    Good video to look for your stolen bike.

  • @LindaRuiter-c4v
    @LindaRuiter-c4v Місяць тому +2

    Disgusting they don't appreciate anything

  • @juliejohnson5626
    @juliejohnson5626 Місяць тому +2

    Disgusting and makes our town look like a terrible place to visit. Welcome to the "Not feeling good" Town

    • @heidimisfeldt5685
      @heidimisfeldt5685 Місяць тому

      It still continues to be a wonderful beautiful place. There's a whole lot more going on in Cobourg, and worth coming to visit.

    • @juliejohnson5626
      @juliejohnson5626 Місяць тому +3

      @heidimisfeldt5685 where I live, it's very unsafe a d the junkies are a plenty here. They even are invading the woods across from my house

  • @brendaspeiran8261
    @brendaspeiran8261 Місяць тому

    Hunting Wabbits with bow and arrow 😅 that's scary 😨

  • @missf4681
    @missf4681 Місяць тому +2

    Whats with all the garbage everywhere

    • @johnc8112
      @johnc8112 Місяць тому +4

      They didn't buy it they don't Care. Others people gave it to them.

    • @minusculemomma561
      @minusculemomma561 Місяць тому

      They actually asked for garbage pick up early on and were denied by the township. They tried to give a damn, but when no one wants to work with them, what do you?
      expect​@@johnc8112

    • @sherylfallon3031
      @sherylfallon3031 Місяць тому +6

      So they know enough to buy their drugs but not pick up after themselves?

    • @drunknomore1
      @drunknomore1 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@sherylfallon3031and you don’t know enough to recognize when to shut your yap.

    • @gapeingvoid
      @gapeingvoid Місяць тому +1

      Problems not people.

  • @ellensadowski704
    @ellensadowski704 Місяць тому

    What is your agenda in constantly filming this ? Is it to increase awareness to the human tragedy of our country not looking after its own or is it to inspire negative feelings towards the less fortunate ? Yes .. there is stuff left behind . But when people experience daily tragedies in fathomable by housed people who knows why they left so quickly ? So sorry Martha Stewart didn’t take up housekeeping in the encampment . Can we even comprehend the depth of mental illness or other causal ties they experience? I think cleaning is last on their list . Many experience critical health issues which land them in hospital etc . If this is meant to judge the less fortunate I only hope that one day you truly comprehend what they go through . I do not therefore will not judge . I only empathize . This is so sad .

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому +4

      Oh but you are judging. “…when people experience…tragedies by housed people…” Do you understand how divisive & presumptuous your comment is? I think you are Very late to the conversation.

    • @tylerdurden8378
      @tylerdurden8378 Місяць тому +4

      Spoken like a true enabler. You are therefore part of the problem.

  • @heatherstubbs6646
    @heatherstubbs6646 Місяць тому

    This is not “in depth coverage”. This is 9+ minutes filming junk and garbage, which, I agree, is a huge problem, but at no point did anybody from the encampment have a chance to speak about their experience. Not one person was asked “How did you end up here? What’s all this junk for? What will you do when winter comes?” Homelessness is a very complex problem, often involving mental illness or trauma of some kind. We, who are comfortably housed, have no idea what it must be like to have nowhere to go. To have no income but what you can scrounge from other people’s garbage that maybe you can sell. I don’t know all the complexities of the problem of homelessness, but I respectfully suggest that the stream of self righteous criticism and condemnation in these comments is not going to solve anything. Compassion, respect, and genuine concern for fellow human beings would go a lot farther than hate filled NIMBY-ism.

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому +8

      Pete has done many videos of squatters experiences. I could give you an earful of my “lived experience” living near the encampment…do you have a few hours? It does not involve ANY compassion, respect or concern given to me or my children by drug fueled behaviours. Nimbyism? Where in Cobourg do you live? My guess is not near the encampment with children! Pete has done in-depth videos of squatters and in them many admit all are drug addicts at encampment. What about the voices of those suffering at the hands of crime, violence, threats, abuse, trespassing, thefts?

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  Місяць тому +4

      I did ask one of the (two or three left) people if they wanted to speak and they chose not too.

    • @heatherstubbs6646
      @heatherstubbs6646 Місяць тому

      @ thanks for this, Pete. I’m glad you gave them the opportunity. What I was more concerned about was the negativity expressed in the comments. It’s undeniably a really big, complex problem, but it’s also mighty easy to condemn when you haven’t walked in someone’s shoes.

    • @heatherstubbs6646
      @heatherstubbs6646 Місяць тому

      @ I agree that it’s a terrible problem, and I’m sorry you and your children have had to experience the negative effects of it. Perhaps I shouldn’t have said anything. It’s just that problems like this are many-layered and I think almost always involve mental illness and/or psychological trauma. It’s not as simple as “get off your f-ing ass and get a job.” There’s a reason why people turn to drugs. You have every right to be angry, but we’re still all humans, and hatred and anger don’t solve problems. We’re all in this together. Surely there’s room for a little compassion in the mix.

    • @WEEIRISH
      @WEEIRISH Місяць тому +3

      @@heatherstubbs6646 Yes, you are correct. Mental health and trauma are often involved. Professional County Social Services workers visit the tenters regularly, ever since 12 people at West Beach got evicted from their uninhabitable drug dens. They are offered services and life saving help and they deny it. When I hit rock bottom with addiction, I would have been grateful for help directly offered to me. Did you know County staff were so frightened of tenters behaviours that County Evicted them from County property? Now we have a dangerous encampment placed amongst 3 children’s schools. Please do not lecture me about hatred, anger and a lack of compassion, you know nothing of me. “We” are not all in this together.