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Do-It-All KTM 500 Ultimate Dual Sport | Adventure To A Race & RACE IT | Malle Moto???
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- See what happens when you decide to do an adventure ride on your KTM 500 Do It All motorcycle / Ultimate Dual Sport Build to an enduro race in Page, AZ, and enter that race. Round 6 of the AZ AMRA Enduro Racing series is held in Page, AZ at the same location as the US Hard Enduro Series Grindingstone race. It's the perfect place to test to see if the KTM 500 dirt bike is truly the jack-of-all-trades bike.
This is the final episode in Source ADV's KTM 500 XCF-w EXC-f do it all build. The bike has lots of singletrack riding hours and a few races under its belt, but it's time to combine the adventure ability with the racing and see if it can ride hundreds of miles to a race then still do well at it. We are taking a hint from Lyndon Poskitt here and seeing what it's like to ride your race bike to the race versus putting it in the back or your truck or trailer. What could possibly go wrong?
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This 2020 KTM 500 XCF-w is getting prepared to be put to the ultimate swiss army knife of motorcycles test; be a fully functional adventure bike that can carry camping gear, food, water and then once it arrives be turned back into a capable racing dirt bike. The bike has been racing and will be entered into the B class at 2022 Round 6 of Arizona's premier enduro dirt bike racing series, AMRA. The race will be held in Page, Arizona at the same location where the US Hard Enduro series race "Grindingstone" hard enduro happens.
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This video is the third episode in the series of videos to see if the KTM 500 can do all the different types of off-road riding; single track, enduro racing, and lightweight adventure. At this point, the bike has been fully built to be a single-track beast and enduro racer. Between the suspension redo by EnduroSpec with Lucky inserts in the forks and as well as a GET ECU; this bike absolutely rips on single track and enduro riding. This episode turns the bike into a simple but functional lightweight adventure motorcycle.
-- KTM 500 Do-It-All Episodes --
Ep. 1 - Single Track Bike Overview -- • Can The KTM 500 Do-It-...
Ep. 2 - AMRA Enduro Race Test -- • Racing The KTM 500 XCF...
Ep. 3 - Building the Ultralight ADV 500XCF-w -- • KTM 500 XCF-w -- Light...
Ep. 4 - The Adventure and The Race! -- THIS VIDEO
Suspension By EnduroSpec -- www.endurospec...
GET ECU from TacoMoto -- tacomoto.co/co...
Mosko Moto Reckless 80 Luggage System -
The rest of the series will investigate how well this bike is at enduro racing and lightweight adventure travel. We think this bike will be awesome with a few interchangeable parts. It might just be the best four-stroke enduro bike ever made!
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🕒 TIMESTAMPS / Table of Contents:
00:00 Intro / Episode Overview
02:20 Adventure Start
03:10 Little Colorado River Overlook
04:50 Mile 95 - Fuel Pump Failure
08:55 Arrive At Race Location - Page, AZ
10:15 Transformation Into Race Bike
11:50 Fuel Tank Swap & Test
12:15 Hard Enduro Exhibition
15:25 Race Day Prep
16:48 RACE - LAP 1
24:58 RACE - LAP 2
31:05 RACE - LAP 3 Start
32:00 Closing Thoughts & Bike Review
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This video is freaking awesome, makes me even more pumped for my 6days I just put a deposit on, very first enduro bike, first dirt bike since high school. 20 years later lol.
Awesome man! Have fun, go order that GET ecu from taco moto immediately. Cheers!
Awesome, man, you nailed it.
While you're riding, I was enjoying the views..
Thanks you! It’s pretty dang cool up there by Page!
Awesome video Mark!
4th place in 30+ B is great, especially for ADV’n the entire weekend…!
Thanks man!!!
It's pretty remarkable the traction you're getting on those rocks. In the Midwest we have about 3 small rocks in the whole series.
Dude, that Goldentyre GT333 rear is a magic do it all tire.
cant believe I watched the whole video , great video man ! man those pro racers sure travel alot faster .
Yeah man!! Those guys cook! Sand is my absolute worst skillset, been working on it a lot this year, should be fun next time we race here
Impressive to see these guys slide down a hill or loop and get back at it. A lot of times, that’s the end of someone’s ride and you go home.
Solid racing!
Cheers!
nice filming spectacular, trail, I am from Costa Rica, riding a lot in the jungles, so this desert stuff is way too exotic and interesting. I hope I can make some day to one of those races.!!
That’s awesome man! Thank you! To me, Costs Rica riding is exotic! LOL
Enjoyed watching you out there on the course !!! It was my first dirt bike race ever Sportsman C class over 60 !! I was also the Guinea pig for a lot of the A/B Hard to C Easy for a few days before the actual race… I will say that once you race / ride Page you definitely want to go back and play some more !!!
Awesome stuff man !!!
Bob from Cornville
Nice man! That’s awesome! Definitely a fun course for a first go, can’t wait to go back. See you out there, cheers!!
Really enjoyed this video! Great riding - thanks for sharing.
Cheers!!
Nice race. I've ridden out in that area on the same bike and I keep mine about as tight as possible. I know what you mean lol.
Thanks man! Great riding area and just amazing corner of the earth
Really cool build and great racing!
Thanks man!
Awesome video, thanks for sharing 👍
Glad you liked it
Hey bud I’m sure you have it sorted now but the side straps on the Mosko legs connect to the the clips on the dry bags to pull it down. Not wrap around the leg. Love the set up.
Oh nice! This is my first reckless 80 setup, had the smaller one in the past and ran the tusk one on the DRZ project. Thank you for the heads up!
Dude that was a great video! Makes me miss harescrambles AND AZ! Great job editing and story telling. Btw, where was the ride home footage?! 😂 has me wondering if you trucked it home! 😂 agree on the split focus, my MTB/ADV rides are like that too. Will try to get back to AZ this winter, would
Be rad to link up For a collab!
Thanks man! Definitely trucked it home, the bike does not have enough range with that small tank to make it back on that section of AZ BDR and my wife and I had to fly to CO for a medical trip for her the next day… she would have been fairly upset if I got stranded in the middle of the desert 😂😂😂 so it wasn’t worth the risk.
Yeah man, it all depends, I want to do better at the races so it takes a little of that focus away you know? If I didn’t care about results it would be totally awesome!
Yeah for sure! Hit me up on the contact form on SourceADV.com cheers!!
So damn cool man hitting a section of BDR and then running the race! Loved it! The 500 is one damn capable bike. I have an ADV modded KLX 300 right now, I'm totally down for this once I have the right bike. Probably gonna be the 500, but also thinking about Beta 390. I'm in Phoenix, so I'd probably do an event a little closer than Page, lol. Since I don't care much about my race results, this is right up my alley. Thanks so much for sharing this brother!
Thanks man! I would probably recommend the 350XCF-w if you want to focus on trail more, it will feel a lot lighter when it is not in adventure mode and would be awesome with an exhaust and GET ecu from taco moto. It would be fun to go to the San Manuel race in the AMRA series from Pheonix, that would be a nice little ride and fun race. Cheers!!
@@SourceADV The 350 is def an interesting option. Will check it out!
Very fun bike on trails!
Hi, i am just at the beginning of the vid and yet to see the rest. Just wanted to ask about the side bags in the Mosko setup. You are currently showing them with the rolltop straps connected to form a "handle" for each bag. And at the same time connect the straps on each saddle side to sort of hold it together type-of-thing. Actually tried to figure it out what is the reason for that myself for a while.
Sorry for the long intro but just to let you know - I think that the saddle straps are meant to tie down each side of the sidebag strap. I tried it myself and found it is a much more efficient way to make it more compact and rigid luggage system as a whole. Please check RTW Paul's insta or UA-cam for reference if my explanation lacks in clarity!
Cheers and will keep on watching.
Oh dang! That makes way more sense! I was wondering what that little crosss strap was for. Thank you for the feedback.
Impressive race!
I’m too old to go that hard but it looks like a blast.
On Dave from MADTV I learned the easy way to always have a fuel pump backup on the KTM’s. They had issues on his London to Sydney ride.
Thanks man! That pump only had 6 hours on it, so I’m not sure what the hell is going on there. Cheers!!
@@SourceADV I forget which site I was looking at for my 1290 SAR but I saw that they were advertising “better” fuel pumps than KTM.
Might have been Rottweiler Performance. Worth a look.
Cheers!
Taco Moto has 3000 hour pump for this bike, which is pretty promising! Haha
@@SourceADV That would be the ticket! 🤩
Great content man!
Thanks dude!
I notice we go from "that thing" to "good girl" once we're in sight of pavement 😂
🤣🤣🤣 she carried me to the race and we did well, I was proud haha
Rad 🤘🏻
Thanks man!
Really cool vid dude, good riding!
Thank you!! Going to run Grindstone in page this year on my 300, should be fun!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@SourceADV I'm subscribed, looking forward to the video!
@canyouguessmyname15 I might not film it, just because it takes away from my focus on the race. I race A class these days and it’s pretty intense. We’ll see!
@SourceADV That's understandable, good luck in the race!
Thanks!
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Good times! 🔥
great journey, interesting to me is the terrain - it is about as far removed as possible from terrain i race here in GB - would be great to race desert like that one day - so weird
It’s really fun man!! I’m originally from the Northeast of USA and the forests are tight there.. it’s really fun to be out in the desert and for the most part you can ride through anything, you don’t really have to stay on trail which is a bit of a mind bender to start haha
@@SourceADV haha i bet it is - sounds like your past is my present, i wish i had rented a bike when i was over there touring the west - i mean, in the desert it's not like anyone can complain if they don't see you right 🙂
That’s it man! And in general people care way less about desert 😂😂
Man I have been really enjoying your videos. I purchased a 500 exc-f this year in hopes of doing just what you have done here. I live in TX and here we have the TORCS race series that I'm hoping to ride to, camp, race and then ride back. As far as your bike setup, anything you would have changed so far? Keep up the good work man. Ill be in AZ for the holidays doing some ridding, maybe ill see ya out there.
Thanks man, glad you are liking it. At this point, no man! It's pretty dialed, just don't leave the exhuast shield on the muffler in a race scenario like I did hahha I ruined my favorite riding pants LOL -- GET ECU from Taco Moto is way better than the Vortex in my experience, the FMF 4.1 RCT with the quiet insert helps low end torque and the XCGear Mako360 is amazing for getting rid of the vibrations
Suspension wise, I'm going to try out the Raven MXT fork inserts on my '23 350XCF race bike, and they are supposed to be a little closer to KYB SSS forks than the Lucky's I have on the 500 right now. I think the biggest thing I would do over and over for the PDS bikes is that MXTech National shock... It was such a game changer for the bike, it made it take whoops like a linkage bike. The stock rear shock is weak even with a revalve.
My 500 is actually for sale if you want to see the full spec and the National shock is for sale, check it out: flagstaff.craigslist.org/mcy/d/flagstaff-2020-ktm-500-xcf-turn-key/7562922738.html
Very nice setup you have there. I’m curious as to the durability of the kickstand. Has it been modified? I note that you mounted the bike horse style which would place a fair amount of stress on the stock kickstand. KTM factory kickstands on the dirt focused models are very lite and quite flragile so I’m keen to know if you have found a solution to this as part of your adventure build. Nice work enjoyed the video!
Good question, no that’s still the stock stand, but I try to right the bike a bit before I get on to get more weight on the tires. I ride trail exponentially more than I adv these days, so I’m not too worried about it for me. The Fastway billet kickstands are definitely far beefier than the stock stands though, hope that helps!
great setting but have you changed the rear spring to ride the bike with full loaded baggage? the standard spring should be good just for medium weight pilot. thanks
I didn’t because this bike is primary function was single track riding without luggage.x You absolutely should get a different spring if you will always have luggage. This bike was totally fine but just riding low in the rewr
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Thanks brother! Fun times!
Probably be a good idea to protect that GPS Montana a little better. Do you carry a spare? That’s toast in a crash.
Nah, I don’t crash during adv riding. I take it super easy. I save the fast riding for racing
Great video Mark 👏👏 One question, how much time had the failed fuel pump done in hours?
Thanks Robbo! Dude, believe it or not that pump and regulator had less than 5 hours on them… I’m wondering if something else in the assembly was failing. I’m going to tear it down soon and see what I can find.
@@SourceADV I’ve seen a few
GasGas bike recently with electrical issues in particular the voltage reg shorting out and going up in smoke. This was caused by moisture on the diagnostic plug connector we think. As a precaution if yours has the new red diagnostic connector make sure it’s taped waterproof wise. 👍🏻
Thanks Robbo. But with this bike it is definitely isolated in that particular fuel pump assembly, I’m not sure exactly what yet, but the bike did go back to running perfectly when the tank was swapped that had a totally different fuel pump assembly in it. Am I missing something there you think?
Genuine question here but how often do you need to check the valves on these bikes? Everything i look into seems to be between the 15-30 hour mark. That's the only thing making me consider compromising and getting a crf300L but man how much id prefer to be riding something like this aha
Check them once in the first 5-10 hours, if they are going to move they would have done so then. After that every 100 hours is fine but your brain will say otherwise LOL. If it gets hard to start that’s a good indicator to check them.
Nice one, good filming and spirited racing :) How do you like that Mosko R80 on the bike? it looks almost too big on such a bike... Is it floppy on bumby rides? You had a Mosko R40 but thats too small for camping?
Thanks man! The 80 is definitely big, no flopping though surprisingly!! I had to use the 80 because of all the things I needed to bring for the racing. I was more worried about the overall weight on the back of that bike. Believe it or not my favorite small luggage system is not the reckless 40, it’s actually the Tusk Excursion system. It held more items than the reckless 40 and was half the price. Reckless 40 and Tusk excursion are both big enough for camping but you better have a tiny kit, specifically a compressed sleeping bag, small sleeping pad and tiny stove. I run the Nemo Dragon 2P tent on the outside of the system because it has its own waterproof bag. Cheers!!
Great video Mark! did you have to change your forks and shock spring rate to compensate for the added weight of your large fuel tank and mosko bags?
Thanks man! I changed the fork and springs for my riding weight (200 LB in shorts) for single track riding initially when I set up the suspension. I did not change it any more for the adventure portion. It was definitely sagging a fair amount in the rear, but not enough for me to care for a one day adventure ride. If it was a permanent adventure bike, a new rear spring would probably be smart.
@@SourceADV Was thinking the same. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos 🙌
Cheers!
great video. I'm just getting back into riding after a 30+ year hiatus. I'm leaning toward adventure riding down into Mexico from San Diego. Having a hard time getting my arms around $10k for a bike that you then have to spend $3 to $4k more building but the bike seems to do it all. What year is yours?
Nice man, that’s awesome. Honestly, I think that’s just where this stuff is at now. The new bike price and aftermarket parts prices jumped so much post COVID.
This bike is a 2020, it will be for sale in about a week, but it has a lot of the stock parts back on it. It still has the GET ecu, fmf pipe, nice seat, protection and Taco Moto fuel system. Let me know if you are interested. Hello @ SourceADV.com
Very nice job. What tires are u running for DS/Race?
Cheers! The front is not DOT compliant, it was a Bridgestone M59. I actually would have preferred to be on a Goldentyre 216 80/100 for that sand though which is DOT compliant. The rear is a Goldentyre GT333 120 which is one of the best all around rears ever and it happens to be DOT compliant too. Cheers!
@@SourceADV
Very cool. I also run M59…but on my 500 exc I run the 216 on front.
Looks like we have similar taste
I’m running a 22 500 and a 23 250 xc-f
Both awesome
Nice!!! Good taste!!! Cheers and happy holidays!
What luggage rack is that you are running on the back fender, look like what I need.
Fastway Cargo rack, it’s a proper pain to install with all the plastic trimming you have to do
What tent is that
Nemo Dragonfly 2 bike packing tent. I’m actually selling this one if you want it, hit me up at hello @ sourceadv.com
UA-cam man falls off cliff while filming! 🤣 don't do that!
Exactllyyyy, plus you'd have a really long time to think about how stupid the decision was... Not good
@@SourceADV crisis avoided! Great video. Made me feel like I was reliving the whole course. One of the most fun AMRA races this year!
Thanks to you guys!! So much fun! Let’s go ride there again soon’
So, fuel pumps just fail and KTM hasn’t made a design to fix it? Is there an aftermarket solution? Just seems ridiculous for such an expensive machine.
They have. They completely redesigned the fuel pump system in the ‘23 race bikes and ‘24 enduro bikes. There is a good aftermarket fix too from TacoMoto, they make a much stronger pump and fuel filter that last up to 3000 hours.
Also to note, the fuel pump that failed in this video was an aftermarket pump, it’s garbage.
Well that’s good that KTM redesigned it. Too soon to tell if it’s actually reliable. $200 for an aftermarket solution isn’t bad but it also shouldn’t be needed on a bike that costs so much. But if that’s the bike you want I’m sure people will find a way to justify it.
Is what it is
KTM is yust high priced scrap . I regret my decision to buy a 2023 EXC 500 . Next time i buy a japanese bike .
Why we had absolutely no with our 500s
Which jap crap do you think is going to replace a 500? What is the problem with your 500?
Sounds good, more for all the rest of us.
What a weak-ass