How to Counter ZED! (Ultimate Guide)

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  • @skillcapped
    @skillcapped  4 роки тому +315

    OOOOKAY this guide went on longer than intended... BUT we're confident you'll not need to ban Zed anymore after watching.. Feedback & Suggestions welcome! 😎👍

    • @QOOIN1
      @QOOIN1 4 роки тому +9

      Do one on talon,zed has a counter on times,you just build seekers and he does no dmg,but talon just pushes you in and never lanes with you,then roams and wins the game

    • @skillcapped
      @skillcapped  4 роки тому +15

      We address some of that in this guide too (countering roams) but noted for Talon!

    • @antonioandreigiani6532
      @antonioandreigiani6532 4 роки тому +10

      i never banned zed and if someone chooses him i dodged :))

    • @Barnesofthenorth
      @Barnesofthenorth 4 роки тому +3

      Only suggestion so far is do this for every champion in time as not only is it great for how to counter champions, it also tells you as a player of that champion how people counter you giving you more of an idea of what you could do to stop them.

    • @davidsmeltzer551
      @davidsmeltzer551 4 роки тому

      Fiora, kled, irealia,lee sin, katerina

  • @swiftbrokensword8834
    @swiftbrokensword8834 4 роки тому +1924

    Just set shadows off in settings, you're welcome.

    • @afluxgallux8225
      @afluxgallux8225 4 роки тому +133

      Disabled this and so far zed players in my games have not been able to use their shadows, what a lifehack!

    • @vmdp8790
      @vmdp8790 4 роки тому +11

      @@afluxgallux8225 you demoted

    • @arg7380
      @arg7380 4 роки тому +28

      Ultimate life hack.
      Just ban zed. No settings require.

    • @kepler4192
      @kepler4192 4 роки тому +57

      @@arg7380 here's a better life hack
      uninstall league

    • @afluxgallux8225
      @afluxgallux8225 4 роки тому

      Nakano Lemon funny enough I actually demoted on my main account today lol

  • @gheorghetutunaru8588
    @gheorghetutunaru8588 4 роки тому +677

    I think its pretty obvious who the next counter guide should be about: YASUO

    • @dd-vl6mf
      @dd-vl6mf 4 роки тому +19

      @@kooldudematt1 True finally someone who says it. I recently have been playing ofa and half of the players are called yasuo but suck ass. Literally hyper inting till min 15 then afk.

    • @sosuhh
      @sosuhh 4 роки тому +2

      U garbage

    • @edde2429
      @edde2429 4 роки тому +3

      The matchups are a lot more specific into Yasuo though so they' ll probably have to group champs by how you lane vs Yasuo

    • @shahamut5009
      @shahamut5009 4 роки тому +32

      @@kooldudematt1 because there are an equal amount of bad players just feeding the heck out of yasuo as well... I would love a "how to counter yasuo" guide, so that every time someone complains about him I can just link them the video.

    • @OminousBlast
      @OminousBlast 4 роки тому +1

      Gheorghe Tutunaru most yasuos sucks and it’s easy to know what to do vs a yasuo if you know your own champion

  • @lDreamStealerl
    @lDreamStealerl 4 роки тому +1276

    Yo as a Zed main all I can say is please take this down

    • @MrPaperVader
      @MrPaperVader 4 роки тому +1

      @@puppetmaster8514 true

    • @5headplayerr865
      @5headplayerr865 4 роки тому +1

      Captain Phlox which lethality buffs?

    • @leomc162
      @leomc162 4 роки тому +4

      fuck you

    • @5headplayerr865
      @5headplayerr865 4 роки тому

      Captain Phlox oh those ones ty

    • @Wextrify
      @Wextrify 4 роки тому +10

      @@puppetmaster8514 That's true but low elo players can't deal with him.. I saw adcs just sitting on one place and let Zed make his combo on them.. No flash, no positioning just sitting on one place and complain about zed being broken

  • @MiahooJunk
    @MiahooJunk 4 роки тому +602

    "In this video we sent Hector to Italy to see if he catch the Coronavirus..."

    • @sunknight5303
      @sunknight5303 4 роки тому +2

      Or germany and spain or france too. U know not only italy have corona right?

    • @redmd9195
      @redmd9195 4 роки тому +55

      @@sunknight5303 ye and it's a joke you know?

    • @MrMannerless
      @MrMannerless 4 роки тому +10

      REDMD - I genuinely believe he does not.

    • @tobiashantke5218
      @tobiashantke5218 4 роки тому +6

      @@sunknight5303 but italy's getting rekt the most

    • @subscribetopizzatheonlyrea7322
      @subscribetopizzatheonlyrea7322 4 роки тому +2

      @@sunknight5303 and?
      How is that relevant to the joke
      There are alternatives that you are suggesting just because?
      They are not even more effective you are just annoyed because they didn't feel the need to validate that there are other people dying
      -In this video we sent a Jew back to Nazi germani
      -you know that not only Jews died massively right why not Africans from ebola?
      I'm just pissed by someone being so annoying

  • @xitaris5981
    @xitaris5981 4 роки тому +94

    One thing to remember when timing his W: his W CD gets reduced by 2 seconds for every champion hit by his E. So when setting up a gank, don't get surprised when he's able to W away if you waited a few seconds after his W was on CD and let him land some E's on both of you.

    • @giacomotezza2450
      @giacomotezza2450 4 роки тому +22

      Don't forgot the cdr from the items and the cdr from the boots accordly with season 10 build.

    • @kevint1445
      @kevint1445 2 роки тому

      Only Zed's e not from shadows.

  • @nikhilc6786
    @nikhilc6786 4 роки тому +241

    15 minutes after i get dumpstered by a zed, nice

  • @CriticalPosthumanism
    @CriticalPosthumanism 4 роки тому +60

    I guess I can ignore this video because you didn't say "trust me you don't wanna miss this one".

  • @zelianjungler1991
    @zelianjungler1991 4 роки тому +142

    And most important tip: Report your adc, for trying to right click Zed in the river bush in the end of laning phase. No matter what elo your playing , your adc will try to 1 v1 zed in the river bush when rotation start
    (trust me i've played zed)

    • @Sky-bg5wt
      @Sky-bg5wt 4 роки тому +5

      As an Adc main I just realized how much I do this. Even when using Rapidfire and Stormrazor Combo

    • @zelianjungler1991
      @zelianjungler1991 4 роки тому

      @@ademguney6849 you have billion games and you are d1 .. seems legit . i can belive that

    • @heidome3223
      @heidome3223 4 роки тому

      as a toplaner i happened to kill the greedy adc countless times

    •  4 роки тому +2

      @@ademguney6849 you can't and you aren't.
      Lying is pathetic

    • @ponglenis9273
      @ponglenis9273 3 роки тому +2

      Applies to all assassins. Told my friend who played adc this fizz 10% hp will oneshot him, he shouldn’t fight him. He said no i have flash heal ult (xayah) and hes almost dead.
      Guess what happened. The 10% Fizz thanos snapped him with ult q e.

  • @1990gollum
    @1990gollum 4 роки тому +185

    Aaaand you needed to let us know that Hector got solo-killed by a gold elo player. That was equally mean and funny.

  • @skiimanu3013
    @skiimanu3013 4 роки тому +283

    As a Zed player, I’m scared to play the game now...

    • @Larioki
      @Larioki 4 роки тому +20

      you deserve it, Zed is the most cancerous champ in league

    • @tzejing4987
      @tzejing4987 4 роки тому +3

      As a zed player I can finally pick zed in rank

    • @epichero8747
      @epichero8747 4 роки тому +5

      @Albanian Byzantine Tagmata i Think its just absolut the fact that zed is just really frustrating to play against xd. Let's be real. I never ban Zed even though I might lose the lane to him because I know once we reach a curtain minute he becomes pretty useless and I can avoid him roaming and getting big leads. But I can really understand his point of view. I'm currently plat,so low elo too and if I climb in the future I'm actually really scared to let zed open once his player base in diamond+ has mastered him at least mechanically. I actually think I'll need to ban him then xd

    • @JK32768
      @JK32768 4 роки тому +1

      @@epichero8747 zed is really easy to lane against. Dodge his weq combo and hes left wide open

    • @epichero8747
      @epichero8747 4 роки тому +1

      @@JK32768 good zed Players wont let you dodge bis Combo so easy and at least Hit one q. But yeah i thibl thats his weakness I guess

  • @Shrooblord
    @Shrooblord 4 роки тому +12

    I _love_ it. Thank you for this extremely comprehensive guide! Would love to see more of its kind.

  • @glichjthebicycle384
    @glichjthebicycle384 4 роки тому +32

    if you are playing zed here are a few tips from a plat-dia zed main:
    Dont get greedy. Almost every matchup is unplayable pre 3 as they said. It doesnt really matter if you dont get the lasthits at those early lvls. Its a very common mistake to get greedy for the lasthit and then eat a lot of dmg by some basics and/or an ability. After you hit 3 try to hit your combo and take your switch if they throw out an ability. Dont go all in unless they use their abilities. If you do go in they generally outtrade you as their combo does about the same dmg as yours does but they get to basic you a couple times after you back off which is just free dmg. It all depends on their current hp but generally speaking you dont want to all in with your first combo. Poke them and if they do use their abilities, dodge them and go all in. You will at least get a flash.
    Dont throw your W directly at them. Try to throw it a bit left or right of them. This way you will hit your Qs way more often as they are harder do dodge when they come from 2 angles instead of one when you throw your W directly at them.
    Pressure them. Sometimes not using your W is key. If they play very safe dont get greedy for the kill. Just zone them away from the wave so they miss gold and maybe even xp. If they get greedy go all in.
    And always look at the wave. Big wave is bad to w into. Only do it if u are guranteed a kill

    • @jolty404
      @jolty404 3 роки тому +2

      Patience is a very great general tip honestly. It applies differently on any class, like assassins want to be patient with their all-ins, while control mages want to hold their key cc-abilities.
      Sitting back and being patient about my actions is what actually helped me the most in League

  • @BaHeTo0
    @BaHeTo0 4 роки тому +8

    This guide was amazing. You should definitely do more on how to counter certian champs

  • @BLKCLVR
    @BLKCLVR 4 роки тому +46

    This gave me a really good understanding of how to play against Zed. However, it also gave me an understanding of his weaknesses, so now I can go and play around them the next time I pick him.

    • @tzejing4987
      @tzejing4987 4 роки тому +1

      So no more banning zed, so I can finally play zed in rank lmao

    • @evilerroryt8448
      @evilerroryt8448 3 роки тому

      @@tzejing4987 ban zed more

  • @shawn14isme
    @shawn14isme 4 роки тому +1

    what an amazing video! Please make more of these! Zed has been a problem for me for the last few years (im an ahri main) and the only real counterplay i had was to try and charm him when he ults. Thank you all so much. No more zed bans from me!

  • @Isopotermiastico
    @Isopotermiastico 4 роки тому +33

    Ofc I want more of this, the game is much more fun when you know the rules xD

  • @RayhartTwins
    @RayhartTwins 4 роки тому +32

    please please make a guide like this but for Yasuo.

    • @jordanmcree2603
      @jordanmcree2603 4 роки тому +1

      none of this matters, Zed's not dangerous because of his kit, he's dangerous because of his ultimate: you can deny him all you want, but once he gets a serrated dirk and level 6, you're done.

    • @pirothebest1999
      @pirothebest1999 3 роки тому +3

      @@jordanmcree2603 rush seekers and stopwatch in runes gg ez

    • @filipmirkovic3815
      @filipmirkovic3815 3 роки тому

      @@jordanmcree2603 assuming that u are ranged u will have better farm than him bcs u can bully him before that u can actually take armor runes and rush seekers and u should be good

    • @memelordtm355
      @memelordtm355 3 роки тому

      @@jordanmcree2603 Also, his ult is easy to counter if you have cc - take cassio for example: if he ults you he’s guaranteed to appear the opposite side of where he ulted from, so you can time Cassio R to cc him and then throw your w down so he can’t tp to a clone

    • @jolty404
      @jolty404 3 роки тому

      @@jordanmcree2603 I literally always take exhaust. I didn't lose to a Zed in ages because of that

  • @ifjkiydxd2814
    @ifjkiydxd2814 4 роки тому +2

    As a Zed main, I'd like to correct the fact about Zed shadow at 2:23. Zed shadow 's E also apply the slow, thats why Zed mains usually E when casting shadow before casting Q.

    • @Opus9ine
      @Opus9ine 3 роки тому

      thats exactly what he said tho..

  • @razoride3483
    @razoride3483 4 роки тому

    Great guide, I'd love more of these. Fun to watch!!

  • @PLZFrosty
    @PLZFrosty 4 роки тому +3

    This was the most educational video you guys have produced. Not the other's weren't educational, don't get me wrong. Please do more of these. It can help so many idiots like me learn what a champ actually wants to do especially when playing a role/champ you're not familiar with. Not only are you teaching the counter, but also how to play the champ by teaching what they want to achieve in lane and, to a lesser extent, in game. Thank you sooo much for this video! I cannot wait to practice this in game! If you could do Yasuo soon it'll be great!

    • @skillcapped
      @skillcapped  4 роки тому

      Thank you! Yasuo for sure seems popular :D

  • @ed1659
    @ed1659 4 роки тому +13

    6:30
    In my head is playing "here comes the jungleeeer, JUNGLAH-JUNGLAH-JUNGLAH"

    • @teemo8247
      @teemo8247 4 роки тому +3

      You can counter this by tracking the enemy jungler and stay closer to the opposite side and then ward the raptors. If the jungler has taken raptors then hes on the opposite side of the map. When you recall, buy control wards and ward the river and dont die to ganks. When the jungler has revealed himself on map you can play aggressive

    • @Trias805
      @Trias805 3 роки тому

      Yeah, those guides always disregard the enemy jungler, as if you're playing 1v1.

  • @goodguydafe375
    @goodguydafe375 4 роки тому

    I love it! Please do more of these.

  • @YagoFierceDeity
    @YagoFierceDeity Рік тому

    Thanks for the tips and congrats for the excellent work!

  • @migr7639
    @migr7639 4 роки тому +19

    3:33 a good zed will accept that he will be harass by AA and he will try everything that he can to farm with the shuriken by far
    11:31 zed will reappear at the oposite side from where he ults not always behind
    12:15 this is the window where EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW when playing against zed when zed ult he was a CD to go back to his R shadow so when he ult you throw everything you have on the side where zed reapear the only thing zed can do againt this strategy is to flash away or using his W shadow i never see any guide explaining this

    • @neodymus
      @neodymus 3 роки тому +4

      oh thanks for the last tip, i was wondering how Zed could instantly disappear after ult

  • @karsonkammerzell6955
    @karsonkammerzell6955 4 роки тому +8

    Real talk. This applies to Zed, Riven, and Fizz in particular, but back in my super early days of League I absolutely hated these three with a passion. As I learned more and more about the game I discovered what was probably the biggest wake up call in the form of realizing I didn't have to get kills in lane to be effective; CS was fine or even better in some cases.
    By learning to play safer in lane, I stopped giving these champions kills early on, and that, in turn, led me to realize just how much easier to deal with they become when coming out of lane 0/0/0. They're like a whole different champion.

  • @strongerthanever2039
    @strongerthanever2039 3 роки тому +1

    Yeyyyyyyyyy! I was searching for that kind of guide for so long! Pls do rest of the champions :)

  • @aca99da
    @aca99da 4 роки тому

    Outstanding video, thanks very much!

  • @maricchichie3987
    @maricchichie3987 4 роки тому +34

    Me watching this video with a finger up my nose
    How to counter zed: Play a tank
    -sincerely garen main

    • @bluedroid7757
      @bluedroid7757 3 роки тому

      Trueeeee ~zed main

    • @KevinementD
      @KevinementD 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I always played more tanky characters, and have recently switched to mid and I’m getting absolutely demolished by Zed. He was never a concern before with his silly shurikens but now I am afraid. Hence why I’m here.

  • @TheJumong2000
    @TheJumong2000 4 роки тому +11

    Thank you for this! As a zed main, I can see where I can optimize my gameplay and counter their counters. Seems like a bigger challenge now, though! Haha.

    • @tzejing4987
      @tzejing4987 4 роки тому

      B-but zed gets ban less

    • @glucky2119
      @glucky2119 4 роки тому

      zed trash compares to other assassins doppa said it himself

    • @WonderWorld12391
      @WonderWorld12391 4 роки тому

      Zed is way to easy to counter, as a zed main i only play him because no other champ has that fun gameplay and outplay potential

  • @nakuseq7125
    @nakuseq7125 4 роки тому

    Awesome video, I wait for more from this serie :D

  • @xenxenxena
    @xenxenxena 4 роки тому

    Thank god u did this, it was super helpful!

  • @Fuyukori
    @Fuyukori 4 роки тому +111

    Turn off Shadows under Video Settings, you're welcome! Now you have countered Zed

  • @BDbiogamer
    @BDbiogamer 4 роки тому +6

    Would love to see one of these for Yasuo or Talon

    • @HappyGick
      @HappyGick 4 роки тому

      For Talon, hard push the wave. Usually control mages get rid of him single-handedly. Respect his level 2. Abuse his W cooldown. Place wards. Itemization is pretty much the same as the one mentioned in the video. This video covers AD assassins in general. The Zed-specific parts are the ones where they mention his abilities. The rest can be applied to other assassins. Talon is much simpler than Zed, but the game plan is similar. They have many videos on assassins in general, and they are very helpful.
      As for Yasuo, I really can't tell for sure, since he's a skill champ in a similar fashion to Akali, so game plans against him are as complex as this video.

  • @BrianSkyVG
    @BrianSkyVG 4 роки тому +1

    This guide was amazing, congratz.

  • @jacobomariatrabadasanchezd5718
    @jacobomariatrabadasanchezd5718 4 роки тому

    Awesome vid. I hope you upload more like this

  • @TheMetalDamage
    @TheMetalDamage 4 роки тому +65

    How to counter: Yasuo?

    • @greekcommando454
      @greekcommando454 4 роки тому

      Mateusz Freeze so he cant run you down my man

    • @fallenleap
      @fallenleap 4 роки тому +7

      wait until yasuo outplay himself lul

    • @WonderWorld12391
      @WonderWorld12391 4 роки тому

      @@fallenleap thats actually true

    • @elytral0
      @elytral0 3 роки тому

      Me playing vs yasuo: Okay, so I'm just gonna shove this wave into turret so I can recall, since the next wave is a cannon wave... *yasuo stays and clears the entire cannon wave over 4 seconds, then takes 2 plates while the entire wave might already be dead by the time I get back due to how fast he shoved*
      The berserker's greaves powerspike is something man...

    • @ponglenis9273
      @ponglenis9273 3 роки тому

      If you kill him, he will die

  • @kevrank1yasuo450
    @kevrank1yasuo450 4 роки тому +15

    Just when i thought about to drop a Video, *how actually Zed works and how to carry* haha nice prediction :D like and nice Video again

    • @MrPaperVader
      @MrPaperVader 4 роки тому

      i dont think a gold player by best has the right to tell anyone how a champ works

    • @kevrank1yasuo450
      @kevrank1yasuo450 4 роки тому

      @@MrPaperVader *gold* lul ^^

    • @MrPaperVader
      @MrPaperVader 4 роки тому +1

      @@kevrank1yasuo450 still too high for you?

    • @kevrank1yasuo450
      @kevrank1yasuo450 4 роки тому

      @@MrPaperVader i can help everyone at least to diamond:) , this is my Goal

  • @Mark-xf3fe
    @Mark-xf3fe 4 роки тому

    So detailed, gj!

  • @randomperson-cq6lb
    @randomperson-cq6lb 3 роки тому

    WOW this is what we want super detailed really effective and helpful thanks

  • @theshade3125
    @theshade3125 4 роки тому +3

    A character I always hate playing against is Darius, sustain, damage over time, a grab, a slow, and a reset on his ult just makes it feel like I'm playing a losing lane even when i killed him 3 times and have 50 cs on him :/

    • @maseywat
      @maseywat 4 роки тому

      For me morde is worse than Darius

    • @ilewdlolis939
      @ilewdlolis939 4 роки тому

      Is hard to even fight a guy with a built-in ignite for passive

    • @theshade3125
      @theshade3125 4 роки тому

      @@maseywat For me mord isn't nearly as bad. He works very similarly to Zed. Don't get hit by his q by yourself, side step his e and don't all in if he has his w maxed out.

    • @sickle7291
      @sickle7291 4 роки тому

      Yeah Darius is a lot worse than Morde. Although you can have a chance against mordekaiser, Darius just skullfucks you

    • @ijuka
      @ijuka 4 роки тому

      Darius is impossible to catch if he runs Ghost and Nimbus cloak. For whatever reason, he can E you to him and run away and somehow that stuns you for so long that you're out of range for a gap closer even though he's using it in a completely unintuitive manner. I really think his E should not be an escape tool.

  • @AryanKumar-jo1pz
    @AryanKumar-jo1pz 4 роки тому +3

    when you were teaching how to deal with his R, I felt like I was dealing with final boss

  • @AndresNDLC
    @AndresNDLC 4 роки тому

    LOVE YOUR WORK GUYS! 100% usefull , Thanks!

  • @nou2500
    @nou2500 4 роки тому

    Okay so I didnt see this video on skillcapped, but I think its really awesome and helpful.
    The only thing I missed were taking boneplating as a rune and maybe coutermatchups (but we all know, that all mages have a hard time against him except lissandra).
    I really needed this guide, because I also struggle against him, but always use my ban on Kassadin.
    Speaking of which, that would be my recommendation for the next counter guide, because I also have problems playing against Kassadin with traditional mages and ap meeles.
    I hope to see more of these guides, because this was super informative and entertaining to watch.

  • @joelmedina1874
    @joelmedina1874 4 роки тому +21

    Poor Hector, always get flamed HAHAHAH

  • @GriffinLKVW
    @GriffinLKVW 4 роки тому +4

    Also, can you do a guide about countering Leblanc? She feels impossible to beat in Laning phase. Dash, root, escape, clone, high burst, etc

    • @Mago.-
      @Mago.- 4 роки тому

      Play ryze or lissandra, when she goes on u, do a full rotation of spells before she is free to move (u need to land ur cc), aftershock is a must, specially on liss. U can play cassio into her, but u are kinda squishy, and she can dodge ur q kinda easily, so better to play something with point and click or aoe cc.

    • @mohamadzakaria96
      @mohamadzakaria96 4 роки тому +1

      Leblanc wave clear early is so hard and costly. Playing a strong pushing champion like Malz, Morgana, Rumble, anyone with tiamat,... Will make her unable to play the game till she gets Ludens. Because that's the time she can clear caster with W with Ludens proc ready.

    • @mohamadzakaria96
      @mohamadzakaria96 4 роки тому +2

      @@Mago.- Aftershock is garbage on Lissandra and electro has 4% more win rate. People who r insecure to play her without Aftershock should honestly just drop her.

    • @phongdinh199
      @phongdinh199 4 роки тому

      Play champs that:
      Out range her
      Have high mobility to dodge her E/ her Q W combo
      Have the same burst or even higher
      Have DPS (Lucian) - LB is good at bursting but terrible at doing DPS
      Have good sustain to handle her poke
      Can push fast, easy farming (Heim, Malz, Morg, Ryze) and you don't even need to fight her
      She's an assassin. She falls off late game. You don't need to stomp her in laning phase to win.

    • @icaroalonso
      @icaroalonso 4 роки тому

      It's basically the same video. Her W has a long cooldown, you need to understand that once you get a Q on you, you need to wait for the mark to disappear and BUY DEFENSIVE ITEMS.

  • @FireBlog31
    @FireBlog31 4 роки тому

    Really nice guide!!

  • @BloodwolfTico
    @BloodwolfTico 4 роки тому

    This was a GREAT guide!

  • @drempez7487
    @drempez7487 4 роки тому +41

    Buy zhonyas...

    • @tzejing4987
      @tzejing4987 4 роки тому +10

      Fk zhonya, del that cancer item rito

    • @kepler4192
      @kepler4192 4 роки тому +1

      didn't he say to go for seke's convergence?

    • @total3117
      @total3117 4 роки тому +3

      @@kepler4192 no, seekers armguard

    • @kepler4192
      @kepler4192 4 роки тому

      Leon Mairinger oh sorry

    • @total3117
      @total3117 4 роки тому +3

      @@kepler4192 it is okay to be gay

  • @pwndbaby
    @pwndbaby 4 роки тому +4

    As a zed main, this is much appreciated! Now i understand what others can do to slow me down. Looking out for these things works both ways in my mind :)

  • @glion5733
    @glion5733 3 роки тому

    Damn, this is really helpful appreciate the in depth guide

  • @Leon53455
    @Leon53455 4 роки тому

    Really nice video 💪🏻

  • @estellachen5864
    @estellachen5864 4 роки тому +3

    I feel like the hardest part is not pushing or harassing. It's doing them without getting ganked by junglers

  • @dd-vl6mf
    @dd-vl6mf 4 роки тому +4

    IMO picking exhaust helps a shit ton, especially when the enemy team is full of assassins.

    • @jolty404
      @jolty404 3 роки тому

      Exhaust is incredibly underrated on midlane. Zed's are just fucked when they ult you and are hit by an exhaust xD

  • @Alyho
    @Alyho 4 роки тому

    Probably one of the best videos, thanks.

  • @Lotobedra
    @Lotobedra 4 роки тому

    This is amazingly well done, I definitely could use some more

  • @sanketower
    @sanketower 4 роки тому +3

    Zed was already struggling too much in the current meta, and you guys release a guide to counter him. C'mon, I wanna have fun ;-;

  • @totham5956
    @totham5956 4 роки тому +3

    What are the chances: immediately after watching tht vidéo, my next 2 ranked was a matchup against zed. I won lane and game. Thank you.

  • @enermatrix4053
    @enermatrix4053 4 роки тому +1

    Love this style of video, please make more! Personally, I find Vayne incredibly difficult to Lane against. She seems to deal insane damage and burst early, mid and late, and it's hard to zone her out of CS. I imagine top lanes would also appreciate a Vayne counter guide!

    • @CookieMasterRBLX
      @CookieMasterRBLX 4 роки тому +1

      Enermatrix play talon into her top hit 6 and burst her

  • @pewdieman
    @pewdieman 3 роки тому

    it was more of a guide and a counter video :D i learned alot from this

  • @a1z133
    @a1z133 4 роки тому +3

    Zed relies heavily on his q for dmg so unless he is fed, he has to land those to hurt u. Also, If u play a weak early game champ exhaust shuts zed down. If u are an adc phantom dancer and ga make his job harder and if u are mid rush seekers>zhonyas and If necessary ninja tabi. Zed also heavily relies on his w so try to engage him while it's down. This is coming from a zed main so trust me, u can easily counter.

  • @filipkrajinic6871
    @filipkrajinic6871 4 роки тому +5

    This guide was great. I just have one question. Lets say we win level 1 and 2, and crash a big minion wave on level 3 and poking him down while he farms. Lets even say, in ideal case, we get a solo kill on him at level 4 or 5, and we recall and buy seekers armguard or dorans ring and boots or cloth armor (depending on an amount of gold). We get back into the lane both score level 6 and the wave was even in the center of the lane. What if Zed desides to zone us of the lane just by walking up to us and pressuring us with potential W engage, followed up by his ulti. We cant shield ourselves from his Q with minions and we cant play more aggresive because his W isnt on cooldown, and we cant push the wave since he is pressuring us? We can play safe under turret, getting some CS we can get safely, but that gives Zed a free time to roam to our jungle or sides lanes. And lets face it, our junglers usually dont help even if we asked them. What should we do then?

    • @euwpredator862
      @euwpredator862 4 роки тому +2

      That’s a deep question 🤔

    • @lorrisgirinon7991
      @lorrisgirinon7991 4 роки тому

      as it was said, place vision and try to grab as much cs you can while communicating with your team to tell them that zed's on his way (cuz even if they have vision in the river on him, they'll blame you cuz they didn't check their map) and try to work with your jungler as much as possible, and if you have a willing toplaner, maybe you can laneswap with him, because zed most certainly will accept to swap with his toplaner, the toplane is a bad spot for him, he has little opportunity to roam. That's all i can think of right now

  • @hockeydavid9749
    @hockeydavid9749 4 роки тому +1

    Hey ive been using these guides for years and have learned so much from them. I finally have time because of the quarantine and am thinking about subscribing. Should I do my placements first, or should I just sign up?

  • @MrMannerless
    @MrMannerless 4 роки тому

    Exceptional guide, thank you!

  • @NomitYT
    @NomitYT 4 роки тому +11

    LL Stylish wants to know your location.

  • @osyrisking5437
    @osyrisking5437 4 роки тому +6

    WEQ on zed isnt even a true threat until level 4 when q starts to really hurt.

    • @emreeren7661
      @emreeren7661 4 роки тому +1

      I could tell no good zed mains were involved in the making of this guide when the video said "start hitting the minions immediately at lvl1". That's just opposite of what you want to be doing against zed.

    • @Prophet347
      @Prophet347 4 роки тому +2

      @@emreeren7661 exactly. Since zed's wave clear is terrible w/o abilities, we typically want minion waves pushed towards us during laning phase.

    • @emreeren7661
      @emreeren7661 4 роки тому

      @@Prophet347 yeah, by doing that we force him into a decision: does he want to use his abilities to harass or to reset the wave so that he can last hit more easily?

    • @StrayingCat
      @StrayingCat 4 роки тому

      @@Prophet347 Every champion has terrible wave clear w/o abilities

    • @Prophet347
      @Prophet347 4 роки тому

      @@StrayingCat to some extent sure, wave clear is harder w/o abilities depending on AA speed.

  • @hockeydavid9749
    @hockeydavid9749 4 роки тому

    Great content !

  • @nikospyridis9579
    @nikospyridis9579 4 роки тому +4

    Some things I want to say as a Diamond Zed player:
    Saying that you have to dodge the Qs coming from his shadows with a movement ability or flash, while not dodging Zed Q ( he is in melee ) is the right call, but Zed can just R on top of you, then WE in you. Now you are slowed for more than normal slow ( 2 Zed Es hitting together gives extra slow ) and now he has himself and 1 shadow in melee range, which makes it hard to dodge.
    It was never mentinoned that Zed can E with his shadow up for a second time. Even after he goes for WEQ
    Some Zed players, knowing that you want to create distance during his E, waiting for his Q, will just WQ then E, since you will be moving straight, awaiting the undodgable E, not the Q.
    It was also never mentioned how effective exhaust is against Zed R. You can reduce the damage of his triple Q, even when he casts it immediately after ulting and his ult.
    One small thing, is that his Zed E ( not shadow ) reduces his W CD by 2 seconds, though it doesn't really matter in lane.
    One interesting fact, is that since Zed R stores pre-mitigation damage, which means using Irelia W to block his triple shuriken, doesn't mean that his ult will do less. It actually guarantees him the triple Q, since you are not moving.
    The "push in so he can't roam strat" is actually not that good. It requires the Zed to use his W and not have the wave cleared already. He can literally just hold W until he fully pushes. It makes it so his waveclear is a bit slower but it's fine for him. Like, he either Ws to one shot the wave, or he doesn't W. Getting you lower doesn't matter since he will roam.

    • @mugiwara_d1600
      @mugiwara_d1600 4 роки тому

      I hope u get aids coming from a zed main

    • @ezswap-xyn3717
      @ezswap-xyn3717 4 роки тому

      Thank you man for the tips! Here's my like

    • @devil2421
      @devil2421 4 роки тому

      @@mugiwara_d1600 i hope you get aids coming from someone who hates zed

  • @mc-steve
    @mc-steve 4 роки тому +5

    that's why I always ban darius and type in chat "ban zed"
    to save 22 mins of my life

    • @noobjitsu1743
      @noobjitsu1743 3 роки тому +1

      you act like teammates actually listen

  • @lawrence0956
    @lawrence0956 4 роки тому +7

    As a zed player, I'm expecting an updated zed guide to balance this video out.

  • @throneslegend7736
    @throneslegend7736 4 роки тому

    This is a great guide. You did mention that zed ult appears behind you 11:27, but I think you could include more examples of counterplay vs this specific interaction. A lot of champions can easily time their CC and skillshots against a zed ult and they won't ever need to flash; For example, if zed ults ahri when ahri has charm up, zed will appear behind ahri (or any champion) 100% of the time, so ahri lands a guaranteed charm/ CC /damage onto zed. Of course, the mind games come in when the zed knows you know about this interaction, so they might spam flash right after they ult to dodge the cc and still try to kill you (like people do when coming out of zhonyas). Still worth mentioning though. Also you could include more examples of when Zed went even, so once players go against stronger zeds they won't fall on their face after stomping zeds for so long.

  • @MrSHAQbballZACH
    @MrSHAQbballZACH 4 роки тому

    Probably the most useful video I’ve seen with practical examples for me, someone who struggles with this matchup

  • @GOTTHEDAWGINME
    @GOTTHEDAWGINME 3 роки тому +4

    Instructions unclear:
    Learned zed instead.

  • @J4ve
    @J4ve 4 роки тому +5

    1:58 "That being 'ZED'"

  • @i8youX
    @i8youX 4 роки тому

    Love this kind of content, would be nice to have more of that on the website and ofc, a freakin searchbar everyone wants a searchbar

  • @giacomotezza2450
    @giacomotezza2450 4 роки тому

    Wonderfull guide. Pls. Make this type of guide for all champions!

  • @GalacticBacon
    @GalacticBacon 4 роки тому +4

    How do you even need a video, it's called Stopwatch

    • @longstew
      @longstew 4 роки тому

      how to counterstop watch. Fucking triple q as soon as the adc is out and laugh at that cancer item

  • @MrMannerless
    @MrMannerless 4 роки тому +5

    Please do a Sett counter next, literally know one knows how to fight his ass in low elo, it saddens me.

    • @euwpredator862
      @euwpredator862 4 роки тому +1

      “”No one knows””. “”It makes me sad””

    • @MrMannerless
      @MrMannerless 4 роки тому

      Xinoverse the police is late it seems.

    • @CoffeeSipper555
      @CoffeeSipper555 4 роки тому

      There is no counter , when you play against sett you just have to buy Qss and pretend he doesn't exist in fights , just DON'T EVER FOCUS HIM , run past him and kill his team , like he is not there , don't hit him , never hit him unless he is 100% alone .

  • @coffinburier4830
    @coffinburier4830 2 роки тому

    Really useful. I came here because as far as I don't don't die or lose CS, I very ofter fall behind in kill/assist as Zed has priority in lane and roams successfully. Thank you.

  • @Antimatter.G
    @Antimatter.G 4 роки тому

    great guide!

  • @MrPaperVader
    @MrPaperVader 4 роки тому +5

    What do you mean it is hard and not fair to lane against Zed? He is one of the weakest, if not the weakest midlaner right now. Q does no dmg when you stand behind minions, e dmg in early is pathetic and melee and w has super high cd. You get seekers and he cant kill you in 1v1. Low elo players cant play him anyways so just let him open and get your free win

    • @skillcapped
      @skillcapped  4 роки тому +2

      If you don't know what you're doing, Zed is very oppressive. This guide is made for people who want to know how to beat Zed in lane if they have trouble laning vs him (that's why he always has a high ban rate in low elo as well). It's also great for perfecting your Zed match-up too!

    • @hararo6961
      @hararo6961 4 роки тому

      It’s to help people in the lower elos that have no idea what zed does. Anyone in higher ranks knows that he’s a big pile of poopy

    • @MrPaperVader
      @MrPaperVader 4 роки тому

      @@hararo6961 true

    • @krustimolu348
      @krustimolu348 4 роки тому

      Try Katarina. She is even worse than Zed. She can't do damage.

    • @MrPaperVader
      @MrPaperVader 4 роки тому +1

      @@krustimolu348 ok troll gtfo kat is broken af

  • @tariksagbas66
    @tariksagbas66 4 роки тому +4

    I can't believe people are scared of Zed. I as a Zed main think its gets countered by every champion and needs a buff. It's just fun to play with at least

  • @leonun
    @leonun 4 роки тому

    great content guys, thank!

  • @doubletillt3043
    @doubletillt3043 4 роки тому +2

    Great video

  • @NiRaM94
    @NiRaM94 4 роки тому +5

    How to counter Zed? Camille :D

    • @viletic
      @viletic 4 роки тому +1

      yeah camille ua-cam.com/video/3lSw7QWGUaI/v-deo.html ^_^

    • @tseax8454
      @tseax8454 4 роки тому

      @@viletic i think u should stop trying to be cool and use your tools correct and u will be climb to gold fast.(easy double kill, no reason to use flash, shield was wasted to poor panic clicking)

    • @tzejing4987
      @tzejing4987 4 роки тому

      This comment gave me cancer as a zed main

    • @viletic
      @viletic 4 роки тому

      @@tseax8454 that was norms with my irl friends lol. Id never attempt such srtupis atuff in nokrmks bro (just op.gg the garen on my team LOL.)

    • @sunknight5303
      @sunknight5303 4 роки тому

      If she ulted u miss all q's then your R is gone like you 2,5 sec later xD

  • @erronhoward6629
    @erronhoward6629 4 роки тому +3

    advise from one trick zed player: pick something big zed just can’t kill like malphite you should be all good to go.

  • @charles-oliviermalenfant1061
    @charles-oliviermalenfant1061 4 роки тому

    Great content! Diana would be a great subject for next guide

  • @inugami7971
    @inugami7971 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much

  • @LazyLee
    @LazyLee 4 роки тому +3

    zed mains on suicide watch

  • @siegpasta
    @siegpasta 3 роки тому +4

    "hardshove the wave so that he's pinned at his tower" m8 that's literally what I do against every assassin I lane against but they all just ignore the wave xD and roam and magically get's free kills on my teammates....
    I ping like a mad-man, but my teammates don't listen... I swear this is almost 90% of the time what happens and people say that "if you can't carry low elo you don't deserve higher rank" but those players refuse to listen, has zero map awareness and literally griefs the game by playing aggro when I ping and the assassin mid is missing...
    THe problem then doesnt become the assassin himself, because yes, he misses crucial experience and gold so he doesnt scale himself that well into mid game, however... his jungler and bot or topside (usually botside) becomes extremely snowballed because of this and he basically just hands them the win in their lanes and if let's say the enemy had a Jinx ADC or Riven top, the game is just over in my elo.
    If you wonder I'm silver 4 and I struggle with the most is what to do in reaction to my own teammates having no map awareness and literally handing the enemy team kills! Especially if I play an assassin myself. If I become fed on an assasssin, my teammates expect me to be the one to engage the fight only because I'm 5/0/3 and got a Tripple kill....
    So lets say I perfectly counter everything in the lane phase, mid game then if they enemy team is just slightly good they will match and drag the game out, scale and my teammates will throw every fight!
    Maybe I'm playing the wrong champion? I like to play Katarina. Anyway good video otherwise :D

    • @Paradox-ih7rp
      @Paradox-ih7rp 3 роки тому

      your champion choice doesn't matter in low elo

  • @OverpoweredPH
    @OverpoweredPH 3 роки тому

    I love this kind of content!

  • @eindeichkind
    @eindeichkind 4 роки тому

    realy well done, not just to counter him but to laern him its realy good

  • @deejayf69
    @deejayf69 4 роки тому +3

    no this is how you really flex uh I mean counter Zed...First you pick Azir in champ select then you slow push the waves every single time, he won't be able to do anything, then when he ults you you ult him back to his shadow, then you use the thumbs up emoji because just neutralized his all in and you outscale him, then after the game has concluded you write in chat "Zed counters Azir btw xd".
    Collect your free LP from the Zed and move on.
    No I totally didn't make this comment bc I am a salty Azir one trick that keeps hearing that Zed counters my champ even though it's the other way around. :P

  • @controlol9143
    @controlol9143 4 роки тому +4

    Buy Zhonyas and hes useless

    • @Lyrxen
      @Lyrxen 4 роки тому

      You've never been against a good Zed if you think all it takes is a Zhonyas. Besides, there are so many squishy champions that Zhonyas isn't a good option on them.

  • @loganlamoreaux5347
    @loganlamoreaux5347 4 роки тому

    please make more of these!!!

  • @truffleworm1490
    @truffleworm1490 4 роки тому

    Hector working those guides OUT

  • @Mrocax
    @Mrocax 4 роки тому

    This was great, keep them coming! Yasuo, Fizz or Darius would be good

  • @johnnylu5661
    @johnnylu5661 4 роки тому

    Very Good Guide

  • @bloodcraver9183
    @bloodcraver9183 4 роки тому

    Extremely detailed guide! It's fantastic but the is more tailored towards a control Magee vs Zed and not the other lane opponents in the mid lane. Although the same concepts apply, I would have liked to seen how the lane plays a bit different when it is bruisers or melee champions into Zed as opposed to ranged. Great video overall and I would love to see more.

  • @wexlbex
    @wexlbex 4 роки тому

    One of your best videos IMO.
    You do so much midlane stuff, maybe how to couter Darius/Garen? (While playing a melee champion)