If they are building resistances and trying to play safe and you continue to let them get picked without a response or wards to help them escape you are apart of the problem. Same if you int fights then they come to support you run away and leave them to die in your stead. Yes you can can be responsible for your feeding teammate. If your lane opponent rotates to kill them and you sit there auto farming it is also partly your fault. You can also consider a lane swap. Even if they are just bad you can likely help to prevent them from being so badly fed.
What a great guide! Here's what happened to me earlier today in Plat as the jungler: My bot lane (Trist/Senna) tried to all in a Lucian/Thresh without poking them down first. They both died in a 0 for 2. They got back to lane, tried again, killed Thresh, but both died to Lucian. Then Lucian got back to lane with a BF sword, so my bot lane went all in again and went 0 for 2. On their fourth attempt, the enemy Graves (who was level 4) showed up to snag 2 assists with his W. So my bot was 1/8/1, and then the ADC called "jg diff" and left at 8 mins. Really looking forward to more great content!
this is literaly how my games always goes, ppl never blame themselves, normal situation is that my mid is pushing wave under tower, gets ganked and die, is it jgs fault? no but he still spits "jg diff". from 10 games 8 games is like this
Cows are smarter and follow direction . i had a kayle supp who just hit every minion and steal CS intentionally . i literally told her to stop hitting minions in 4 different languages . no signs of any intelligent reaction or behavior
Coach: "Was this your fault?" ADC: "No, it was my Supp" Mid: "No, it was my Jungler" Jungler: "No, it was Mid / closest sidelane" Supp: "Yes, sorry! uwu" (even if it wasn't their fault) Top: "No, it's just that Ranged champs are OP" or "No, I just got countered"
There is literally nothing you can do in a counter match up top, besides wait and pray for a jungle gank, unless you are hard smurfing. As a Camille OTP in plat elo, I struggle to consistently win lane against gold Poppy players, because of how bullshit the match up is. Yes, I still win, but it's not as easy as it should be.
as a support main, i will be extremely passive aggressive and bait my adc/whoever is flaming me to die and just spam ping them while being passive aggressive
ego is holding you back - imagine 5 players in the same team watching skillcapped? are they all cows because they still make mistakes? yes but it doesn't matter cuz you're the 5th silver cow so pull back your damn ego and don't even think about your teammates it doesn't fucking matter Q again and Q again maybe get someone in your friendlist that is diamond to explain you the game ...ik some matches aren't just to be won so W/E you thinking you are better then your teammates makes the impact - same as you thinking going 1/0 vs a yasuo is nice but then he somehow gets you in an outplayed cuz u went in like a retard thinking he's bad tho he's not and just made a mistake in the first place - you make the second one and lose the lane to your ego in a psychological way - you trying to proclaim whats initially yours is getting you killed because you are not in focus but raging even tho you might be calm. get your mindset right--> just focus on your own gameplay...you see lvl 250 people that think it does matter but it doesn't you can play a 100000000 level beeing a slave to your own mindset thinking you aren't making any mistakes and so blaming your teammates etc
@@Max-dv1kq he is literally saying that he sucks and holding himself back. If only u would take the time to read u wouldn't have typed this wall of text.
And like they said it was her fualt that she failed somewhere in the mix to notice fiddle on way, to keep her cds and health up so could successfully gank.
Yea but it wouldnt matter. If u do not flame people back 95% of the time they just play normal after it. What u mean most of the time this only happens if u make a drama out of it. Just mute and ignore it, trust me it works.
@@LeKoliasl You actually can go roaming in low elo as well, but chances are high that your ADC will tilt and call X9 sup for leaving the lane. But you just gotta work with what you've got. You can at least increase the chance of your team to win the game.
while this video is a good start, i'd love to see how the adc could've prevented fiddle and camille losing top lane and to make it even harder, prevent camille from dying 4 more times outside of her tower range right after!
Big agree, it feels pretty hopeless when you're going at least even in bot lane and the top/jungle feed free kills. Then the enemy top layer just has completed control of the game.
@@GonzaChavz ADC can't, but if he can hold down lane by himself, then if support rushed mobies she can roam with the jungle to go and collapse on the enemy jungle or top. (or contest herald)
@@bait_0154 I disabled my chat, which, while it's been an overall big improvement to my games, has made it unbelievably difficult to get my support to stop hovering around me, while I'm simply catching waves in complete safety. So that's really not happening, sadly
Riot should make a rewards system for watching educational league videos. Like you should get a hextech key/crate for watching a video on wave manipulation or the 5 second rule.
"idk why these people are stuck in elo hell" So the problem is all of these damn smurfs slaughtering my teamates in ther.... "So we sent a bunch of challengers into elo hell" Ah yes, now I see.
@@anomaly3055 It's a joke. That being said, I have run into multiple boosters recently, evident based off their match history, but have still been able to climb despite the guaranteed losses.
yeah bro 1 challenger on 1 gold game is definitely the reason why these hardstuck gold players with 500-1000 games are the reason they are stuck XDDDDDDDDDDDD
It's only a problem for players they only play for LP and not to improve. A challenger enemy is the best way to learn the game trust me. Ur brain most of the time only realises mistakes if they are very clear and against a challenger they will be very clear.
So, in short, instead of just playing and ensure MY job, I have to practically predict the future in a heartbeat to make the rest of my team do their job of not being stupid?
Sadly yes, because you can never rely on your team to do their own jobs properly, so you have to play in a way to ensure they do. Those rare games where they do their jobs well and you don’t have to worry about them are a blessing, but they are rare so don’t hope for those kinds of teams.
Ventner well it took me 200 games to get to plat but i can legit queue fill and play a different champ every game and still get out of silver in 100 games or less. So u r definitely not stuck in iron 2 cuz of your teammates
Just two random scenarios for the Fiddle - Camile (even though I agree with fact that Camile was wrong). In our beautiful low ello we have a jungle that pings he's coming top, you clear the wave, set up for a gank, you engage and he decides "yeeeah not now" turns back leaving you on low hp. But, ofc you chunked the enemy so our beautiful junglerer sees an opportunity now. He comes back, does what he did and dies. If you don't react it is your fault and until the end of the game you have absolutely no support from your junglerer because you let him die... And that's the 95% of the scenarios in silver and gold.
support probably has the most agency in the first 10-15 min of the game out of all the roles. high utility, 0 need to cs, vision control, and the ability to roam is super valuable early game. later in the game, your body and soul will be sacrificed for the greater good but until then you are the king of the rift and the support with better macro can get their lanes ahead.
I mean, it's easier to lead cows instead of teammates at League... cause at least cows understand your commands, in league everyone does as they pleases and then blame you for losing the game, this game is DOOMED
First out of million rules to climb is: whenever you have yasuo or teemo in team just dodge, it's better to lose 3lp and wait 6 mins instead of 30 min game and -20lp
When my vayne runs down mid for 15 minutes and ends up 0/20 i go along holding her hand so i can make her life easier technically i got my cow to the desired location and i assisted it in it's actions which makes me a great teammate, thank you!
The sickest throws are when mates fight for nothing because they are ahead and die 2v5 and blame others and give shut downs repeatedly and lose off that. Or when ppl dont get vision control and die because they are catched. Or when ur main engage engages without backup
See a lot of 'if's' and 'but's', in reality most players especially in lower brackets dont' ward, don't ping used R / summoners of enemies and think the minimap is a PiP frame. The problem isn't that you occassionally get "bad team mates", the problem is the same as it's always been, the ultra garbage system more often than not trying to force losses on players winning more than they lose which is just one reason for the super unhealthy environment.
and cows have good eyes and spatial awareness. in my country, cows go on the fields on their own and return back together at dawn. my teammates don't even seem to know the map that well. no wonder they get ganked even if the jungler shows on the map 10 s before and I ping them non stop to take care.
@@mirceadolineanu9715 on the other hand cows do not get mental boom cause another cow take their blade of grass aka gromp, raptor, redbuff [insert ANYTHING you can steal / take by accident]
Oh look there are my toplane Camille and my jungler fiddlestick when I'm playing support. Was my fault? No Could have I prevented this? No Is Camille keeping dying 1v1 after this? Yes Is fiddlestick flaming and don't looking the map to write in chat? Yes How can I prevent it? Ff15 "YoU dOnT gEt BaD TeAmMaTeS"
@@christianward615 you definitely got it wrong hah if he has a lead you actually should stay with him as a supp - you want to cover the one who is gonna carry not the ones who are dying because you are gonna die with them most likely. they said it so many times in their guides that im sure ik what im saying. and it applies to all roles. yes even jungler should actually avoid losing lanes. the opposite of what instinct tells (at least for me) but it definitely does work. the other reason is you are gonna leave adc who is doing good and he may get ganged by 3 and lose his lead. you need to prevent that as much as you can. ofc sometimes you should help losing lanes but those are just exceptions like they (losing lanes) made a good trade and there is veryyy high chance this is gonna work out.
I needed this video... xD. It always seems like my bot lane gets double killed 5 minutes in, as a jungle I should pay more attention and rotate faster.
Damn not only do I gotta play chess with my laner, but now I gotta play 4d chess to see in the future of all the most likely bad decision that my teammates are gonna do.
@@raptorthefish3842 i mean, bear with me here. IF you're a good support, ok? reasonably good, you can guarantee the survival of the carries at most situations, so isn't best YOU play support so you don't leave the role for another idiot who wiill try do supp with a champion not made for it, using items not meant for it, and disrupting the team composition? If youre a good supp you can secure two people NOT dying in botlane, which is the place where everything usually starts to derail in a game... Not to mention supports in late game can do a hell of a difference in teamfights by just using their item at the right time, guaranteeing vision and protecting.
About the vision move in the leblanc clip. If only it would be that easy in elo hell. As a jungler and mid main I usually look to ward river to secure vision (I'm usually the only one in my team that cares about vision control). Now, having vision on the map and good map awareness on my part does not keep my team mates from feeding. It seems like I'm playing with bots that have their ping sound turned off. When I see the enemy jungler in the middle of the river and ping them to be careful, they never care and go trading randomly and set themselves up for an easy gank. Even if they see the jungler, they don't know at what distance they should stay to be safe. I encounter this even 2-3 times per game.
It's about asking yourself "What could I have done in that moment?", IN ADDITION to answering that question, if all your options are bad, it's about rethinking that question. "What could I have done prior to that moment?". Tryndamere didn't mess up by not helping Hecarim in that herald situation, you generally want to avoid fights when the enemy isn't in vision, especially if you're low elo. He messed up, as explained, by not doing anything *prior to that moment* "What could I have not done" is also a good way to rethink your analysis
5:30 so youre telling us we should wait mid and look for a countergank instead of clearing your jungle? what if the enemy jungle doesnt come? how long am i supposed to wait? is it just doomed?
It's early game, ekko has just pathed top you know he won't go top lane because it's pushed in, it's a second nature game sense without even thinking that it's likely he will show mid. I think a lot of this becomes subconscious eventually.
no he is telling u to path towards mid,then clear your jung in these situations.Map positioning is as important as teamfight positioning.You should be in position to react to a gank mid
this video lines up perfectly with my mentality. If your teams are so bad, according to you, then the enemy team is always equally bad. You are the factor that either pushes your team ahead, or drags it farther behind. If you get stuck, then you're where you belong. Yes, you may get unlucky with your teams occationally. But likewise, you should get lucky just as often. It always cancels out in the long run, so if you cant make the difference, then you dont deserve to climb. Therefore, its pointless to focus on your teams mistakes, and its pointless to flame them and throw blame as to why this particular game was lost. Always look at your own mistakes, and how YOU can improve, so that you can make the difference in your games, and on average win more than you lose, such that you can climb once again.
I managed to improve at the game because I decided to focus on my mistakes and learned in matches. It's really that simple and people are still denying it and blaming others even though the only thing you need to do is to focus on yourself.
That's exactly it, most matches in low elo have equal skilled players and will come down to two things : decision making and team composition, the team with easier to play champions usually has the biggest chance of winning because its way easier to assume A Annie will know how to ult with stun in a team fight and pyroblast everyone than praying a Vex will skillshot everything. With easier to play champions there will be less mistakes to make mechanically, and low elo games often come down to stupid teamfights, where a single mistake will cost them everything. So you often tell people to play with easier champions, but they will inssist on playing with the latest cool toys riot has released and get destroyed for executing mechanics wrong.
Me when i get slained : is it my mistake? Yes, i am can i learn from it? Yes, i am My Teammate when they get slained : is it my mistake? Yes Can i learn from from it? NO, and i will do it again
This video is something along the lines of "if the moon was in position x and I stood in an angle of 73° to the tidal wave near the shore, then I could have prevented this". Honestly, if you go back far enough, you will ALWAYS find something you could have done differently to prevent this insane butterfly effect. However, that does not mean that it is your fault or that you could have possibly known that a bad thing was going to happen, because it takes 1000 decisions of other players as well to all fall into line for this specific event to happen.
So what to do when playing as an adc your top lane goes 0/10 in the first 6 minutes? I've had several games that happened in a row. I feel pretty helpless when that happens.
As a diamond ADC main all I can say is, while that will happen sometimes, it usually won't. All you can do is try to create advantages in bot lane and try to get your jungler to come gank so that you can get fed too. Sometimes your whole team just hard ints despite anything you can do and that's just the reality of playing ADC, but that very rarely will happen if you are playing well. Even if their top gets insanely fed, if you can stall out until late game you'll outscale everyone
Do one with Hector bot, and the support: 1.- Applies absolutely 0 pressure, always behind you on the horizontal 2.- Doesn´t heal nor shield nor poke 3.- Does engages at the worst possible timings (huge enemy wave, enemy jg in bot, etc, all combined) 4.- ACTIVELY sabotages farming by hitting minions in a way that seems almost perfected so as to mess your last-hitting 5.- Pushes the wave when you try to slowpush or freeze 6.- Stays even if asked to leave in mid-game, again, just soaking exp and ruining farm 7- Keeps feeding 8.- Puts 3-4 wards the whole game Because that is around 70% of my supports. I´m not exagerating. What can I do then? I do not follow up on the stupid engages I beg for him to leave so I can at least freeze and free-farm after outer tower falls I play safely What do I do then?????? TT. TT I´m so desperate, I really love adcing, but it just sucks so fucking much, even more so in low elo like me where the support is so fucking pivotal the fucking first 15 minutes, and it just seems people pick support because they think it is the role for relaxing, doing nothing, and biblical ammounts of trolling.
When my next top laner goes 0 6 and the jg that helps him and goes 0 4 i will ask myself those questions and try not to lose my mind Edit: update my last bot lane yas sion and had a powerspike at 3 16
if your top is 0 6 and jungler is 0 4 you let that game go this is for when your top is 1/4 and your jungler is 1/3/4 some games are beyond your control. Dont overadjust (i am a silver/gold piece of trash tho so take with grain of salt)
Top player here. last game mid went 0/8 in 15 minutes, bot was 3 kills and 8 deaths total. Every game its me who's not feeding and i win my lane 90% of the time and other lanes int. I gank whenever my tp is up or the enemies are between mid or top jungle. We dont have dragons because no1 apparently wants to do them and jungle solo farms whole game. How can i prevent that?
Is it my fault? Prolly no Could i have done something to prevent this? Yes,1v5 pentakill and solo kill my midlane 10 more times while warding every lane
I don't understand the Fiddle example. If you veered off pathing every time your landers were in a possibly bad situation, you would stop farming. I'm not a jungler, and maybe that's my disconnect, but I really don't get it.
Honestly, getting low elo players to admit that its their fault is the most difficult thing to do. Somehow, most low elo players think that they are better than everyone else and will always try to be the "cowboy". Except, instead of leading their team to victory they will just flame everyone else.
You know what’s crazy. I’ve already been asking myself these questions and a lot of the time the first question is a no. But the second one is a lot of the time yes. I’m an emerald player and I just don’t have the skills necessary to prevent something I didn’t see. Bassicly what I’m saying is I need map awareness. Thanks for the guide
One thing I’ve learned playing league, especially in lower elos: MASTERIES DONT MEAN SHIT, IN FACT HAVING 7 MIL POINTS IN CHAMPION AND STILL BEING IN IRON MAKES YOU LOOK EVEN WORSE
have prio first, don't leave your ADC alone under tower, if it's soloQ pay attention to what he is doing when you leave and ping him or even tell him in chat, don't just expect him to play smart and not die. for example, when an objective like dragon is to be taken there is a simple rule, it goes p-v-p-e (push - vision - push - engage), you don't just push - vision - engage unless you just slowpushed a huuuuge wave because you simply just don't have enough time, so you gotta win prio first, THEN vision control (vision ALWAYS comes after having prio, not first, this is how you get camped and die), go back, win some more prio, shove another wave, then the objective, this makes the enemy botlane unable to rotate on time. hope it helps.
it's simple. Is ur adc fed and can 1v2 bot? roam to help other lanes and give solo xp. Is it adc trash and losing lane? Roam to help other lanes and give solo xp. This is a joke and I dont play support, listen to the guy above me xd
@Siimon0803 Hey. I'm a diamond 1 support main and heavy roaming is my signature playstyle. Currently I have around 67-68% winrate with my two main champions (Morgana and Bard) both of which I roam a lot with across accounts in plat 2 - dia 3 elo range. The account I'm playing it atm is ranked around the top 20 morgana's on my server and has a roaming score of around 3.1 which is just slightly below the average roaming stat of a diamond jungler. Credentials on the table, if you want I could write you a few paragraphs on roaming as a support. How to roam with each type and each champion (answer me with your fav champs for specifics). Also how to gank lanes, how to track the enemy jungle to get deep wards, to not die to him, to stop drake sneaking and scuttle takes and to stop his ganks. How to ward both for your lane and for other lanes. How to use tempo windows to pull off crazy far roams into toplane or invades. Also basics like when to leave your adc and how to judge matchups and lane priority. Possibilities are endless but if you do want that make sure to mention your rank so I know what to focus on. Cheers.
Billy Hatzi first of all thank you for the effort or writing such a long text. I never had a rank, that’s why I can’t tell you that, I’m only playing normals right now. I’d really enjoy it if you’d text me this all, some of it I know, like tracking enemy jungler and getting deep wards. But I would be mad if you put it in again, always helps putting that in your head again ^^. My mains right now are: Lux (I wouldn’t play her on support in Ranked, I just enjoy it in normals) but in ranked it would be like Pyke, naut, rakan, sometimes bard.
Alessandro Morelli thank you for that! About getting lane prio, I know that, tho I think it’s not nessererly to stay on bot lane when my adc is just afk farming under tower when the enemy just pushed and I’m sure they won’t dive. The other informations are great tho, thank you!
Wait what about if the jungle looks like he's coming to lane then b-lines for Krugs. Farms the krugs the whole time they pushed and try to Gank after wave is reverse pushed back to enemy tower
i saw a lot of challengers smurfing from iron to master the only similarities is high skill and reading the situation never depending on team. sure you can some times help team or yourself not feeding or make situation better. i dont know what you wanna say when your team loose in 15 min with 30 death and it is happen usually not in iron in gold!! every lane 2 lvl ahead and you cant touch them at all. FYI i play this game 5 years
As a jg, no matter what i play, be it draft or ranked, one of these happen 1. Trolls who feed and then leave 2. Me *pings assist 3x at herald* Top who just killed his enemy and is almost full*stays in lane* I go to the other side to get drake, then he dies to a gank while pushing (he hasn't used wards since the beginning of the game) and he spams jg diff 3. One of the lanes being camped all the time
riot: ok enemy team gets golds and platinums. you get bronze and people who just installed the game. see im balanced. you have a winning streak of 2 games
Well that's pointless because u can't win a game on Ur own lol even if you put the world's best Gk in a low table team Against top 4 there is only so much he can do lol ..there should be premade teams so they can keep improving together that's the only solution
Problem with "jungler pathing to your lane" is how vague it is. Do they clear all camps on the way? Do they double back for no reason? Do they ping omw top and then just go mid to bot instead of top?
If anyone have some free time, please read this. It's a true story and I often have this issue. This is the last game like this: I'm a top laner and my support want to go mid but my mid didn't gave up mid. My support ended up run it down all lane ( enemy has aphelios, kayle, senna, oriana and yi, mostly late game champ and they get roughly 5 kills each; I'm sylas and not so fed. All lane are losing, bot and jungle are losing in their natural before enemy got fed ). I does managed to 1vs3 a 1 time in early game, 3 time in mid game and I even make calls for dragons, split push bot/top, gank lanes but aphelios is 200+ years and 15/5/6, yi is 7/0/3, oriana is 16/5/4, senna is 5/3/14. The only one in the enemy has negative kill is kayle, 5/7/2. I'm 17/10/4 sylas and I literaly carried them to late game with all 5 tower and 1 inhib destroyed by myself. I'm able to 1vs3 in combat but everyone in my team do negative damage, the "run it down all lane" guy was 0/22 and they are all useless in combat. They can't even def towers properly. I ended up took 3 dragons but enemy team manage to get that ocean soul and they get baron 2 times. I tried to made asuch pick as I can but they keep going together and never fight me without ~4 people. Their support and their jungler get vision control properly while I have to buy sweeper as top laner because nobody in my team build sweeper. My jungle kept his warding totem all 35 mins game and literaly put it down 10 times, the case goes the same with all the others (the "run it down all lanes guy" didn't put a single ward all game). I couldn't carry my teammates and lost the game. Please tell me what I did wrong and what can I do to improve About my pick, I pick sylas because my team has 3 AD already, morde was banned, akali is trash and I don't like vlad. Please help me improve
Nice guide as always i encountered a scénario often and what should i do in that case , playing mid getting camped by jungler , since i got camped i Lost lead on the middle i csnt really push and i cant move from my lane then the enemy mid do and got blamed because i dont .. what should i do that hqppen very often and since i am quiet aggresif mid laner i cant carry
Okay but what can I do when I’m 5/0 top lane, my mid lane is being camped by jg and keeps overextending and dying making their mid 7/0, and their jg 2/0, my jg is afk farming, and my bot lane is hard losing 2v2?
so as a top laner when my bot lane dies 4 times am I suppose to just completely leave my lane so we can 3v2 bot lane to keep them from dying more? I only have 1 teleport so I don't really know how you're suppose to prevent 4 cases of them dying. Also all of these situations show you having lane priority. If I'm like a Maokai going into someone like Rumble for example I very rarely have any lane priority. Am I suppose to sacrifice 2 waves of minions just to roam mid to prevent a gank from happening? That's the problem I have with these guides. They always show best case situation and never hard decision situations like if it's worth to give up half your lane just to stop your laners from feeding.
If they are mostly dying to ganks then try learning jungle tracking and tell your teammates in chat where the enemy jungler is. If it's not ganks, then you can't do anything and try carrying to game by yourself or relieve pressure in some major fights with your TP. Be calm and don't be frustrated if you lose instead of looking at the results of your games. Look at what you learned and make some improvement to yourself. Someday it can help you in your future rank games.
when the qiana goes to botlane and i spam ping my not to back of while iam taking midlane turret is it my fault that my bot dies and then blames me about not following as heimerdinger btw i love your content keep up the good work
Its not ur fault even if u werent taking the turret u shouldnt be following an assasin in the jg if it isnt warded he could be faking a roam then just wait for u to follow him an probably kill u
My dudes at skillcapped knew I had a rough day yesterday in soloq. I only got one game where i didnt have several teammates intentionally losing that day, played like 10. Coming in clutch with the timing
these guides really helped me open my mind to playing with my head and just controlling my games, even though I know most of the theory of these kind of videos, I always come back and rewatch them just to make sure i'm doing good, btw climbed 2 elos in like 2 days just because of this content thx
Skill Capped I have a problem I can play usuar adc like ezreal, Caitlyn, Kalista and others fine but when i pick Vayne I suck so much feels unusable even if it's my main feels so bad i don't know what to do.
Can you guys do guides on how to be succesful in living? Your guides are so crisp and clean that I just use these for my daily life since they just teach you how to think differently. Not especially LoL focussed
Thats just multiplayer in general. Idk how these streamers get such good lobbies cuz im fighting for my life every match every game while they seem to have it so easy they can even fluff off and do trickshots
sorry, but when i play jg and feed my top into 5/0 possition and he will lose lane anyway, not because enemy top is some super smurf, but only because my top is bad, what should i do more? everytime, when i lose as jg, who was babysiting top on top impact, i am a bit tilted, what in that case?
The key to forcing the fight at lv2 is to LAND an ability though. I'm not skillcapped, I will hindsight that pyke all day, when youre nearing 2 with a champ that needs to hit a skillshot, dont stand in the enemy wave, advance from the side. Twitch got a lot of free real estate from pyke's mispositioning BEFORE the lvl 2 attempt started and Pyke was too creep-blocked to threaten the harpoon.
Who needs a raise, Hector or the VO guy?
Both
JoelTiger seconded
Hector. he ints a hell lot for u guys. must be bad for his rep and TSM lmao
Hector :D
Hector . . .
That's the problem. My team doesn't think its their fault that I feed 0/22
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If they are building resistances and trying to play safe and you continue to let them get picked without a response or wards to help them escape you are apart of the problem. Same if you int fights then they come to support you run away and leave them to die in your stead. Yes you can can be responsible for your feeding teammate. If your lane opponent rotates to kill them and you sit there auto farming it is also partly your fault. You can also consider a lane swap. Even if they are just bad you can likely help to prevent them from being so badly fed.
EXACTLY BRO LIKE WHY DOESNT MY TEAM WANT TO LVL 3 DIVE WITH ME LIKE THEY DONT KNOW YASUO WINDWALL CAN BLOCK TURRET SHOTS FFS
@@sup3rn0va87 but it doesnt block turrets
@@alana5337 it was a joke.....
Just make sure to spam ping "?" your teammates every time they make a mistake or miss a skillshot so they can learn from it and play better
LMAO
LOLZ
Lamo
U are going to make them tilt
Wow I'm a great teacher then
What a great guide! Here's what happened to me earlier today in Plat as the jungler:
My bot lane (Trist/Senna) tried to all in a Lucian/Thresh without poking them down first. They both died in a 0 for 2. They got back to lane, tried again, killed Thresh, but both died to Lucian. Then Lucian got back to lane with a BF sword, so my bot lane went all in again and went 0 for 2. On their fourth attempt, the enemy Graves (who was level 4) showed up to snag 2 assists with his W. So my bot was 1/8/1, and then the ADC called "jg diff" and left at 8 mins.
Really looking forward to more great content!
this is literaly how my games always goes, ppl never blame themselves, normal situation is that my mid is pushing wave under tower, gets ganked and die, is it jgs fault? no but he still spits "jg diff". from 10 games 8 games is like this
Cows are smarter and follow direction . i had a kayle supp who just hit every minion and steal CS intentionally . i literally told her to stop hitting minions in 4 different languages . no signs of any intelligent reaction or behavior
Oh sorry she might be speaking the fifth language
Its impressive that you know 4 different languages
I would've dodged if I see my supp locking Kayle. That is a really bad omen
@@Somatisandro Scatter!
@@shaunslays2151 lmao
Coach: "Was this your fault?"
ADC: "No, it was my Supp"
Mid: "No, it was my Jungler"
Jungler: "No, it was Mid / closest sidelane"
Supp: "Yes, sorry! uwu" (even if it wasn't their fault)
Top: "No, it's just that Ranged champs are OP" or "No, I just got countered"
thats where ur wrong, always assume that league players will push the blame, source: am support main
All supports think they take all the blame until they play jungle... try it for a week and tell me
There is literally nothing you can do in a counter match up top, besides wait and pray for a jungle gank, unless you are hard smurfing. As a Camille OTP in plat elo, I struggle to consistently win lane against gold Poppy players, because of how bullshit the match up is. Yes, I still win, but it's not as easy as it should be.
as a support main, i will be extremely passive aggressive and bait my adc/whoever is flaming me to die and just spam ping them while being passive aggressive
Haha funny
You just misspelled Supp: "You are all worthless apes that couldn't follow a call if I rammed it in your skull with a jackhammer."
except when everyone in the team thinks they're cowboys, but they disagree with each other
so diamont in a nutshell
@@BARDI77 d4 ahahah
I feel like you're missing the point
@@jacopodam184 D4 is legit the most pathetic elo, everyone just wants to ff after they make any tiniest mistakes like missing the cannon.
@@anonymouspornstar1039 D4 is where the most egocentric players are
The only common variable on my sucky teams is me. So I think I know why my teams suck lol.
ego is holding you back - imagine 5 players in the same team watching skillcapped? are they all cows because they still make mistakes? yes but it doesn't matter cuz you're the 5th silver cow so pull back your damn ego and don't even think about your teammates it doesn't fucking matter Q again and Q again maybe get someone in your friendlist that is diamond to explain you the game ...ik some matches aren't just to be won so W/E you thinking you are better then your teammates makes the impact - same as you thinking going 1/0 vs a yasuo is nice but then he somehow gets you in an outplayed cuz u went in like a retard thinking he's bad tho he's not and just made a mistake in the first place - you make the second one and lose the lane to your ego in a psychological way - you trying to proclaim whats initially yours is getting you killed because you are not in focus but raging even tho you might be calm. get your mindset right--> just focus on your own gameplay...you see lvl 250 people that think it does matter but it doesn't you can play a 100000000 level beeing a slave to your own mindset thinking you aren't making any mistakes and so blaming your teammates etc
@@Max-dv1kq I think he was joking about how he is the common variable in all his bad teams?..
@@Max-dv1kq dude you misread a joke so hard? you need to calm down your ego.
@@Max-dv1kq he is literally saying that he sucks and holding himself back. If only u would take the time to read u wouldn't have typed this wall of text.
@@Max-dv1kq BTW I laughed so hard reading this. At least that was entertaining xD
2:06 if she wasnt help that fiddlesticks he will ping her 1000 times wrote gg on all chat and go afk
still better than losing a whole total of 2 waves
@@sinyus2058 Is it ?
Exactly.
And like they said it was her fualt that she failed somewhere in the mix to notice fiddle on way, to keep her cds and health up so could successfully gank.
Yea but it wouldnt matter. If u do not flame people back 95% of the time they just play normal after it. What u mean most of the time this only happens if u make a drama out of it. Just mute and ignore it, trust me it works.
" who's at fault? "
" pff ofc Kayn.. "
" the true culprit is in fact Lulu "
" NANI?? "
the plot thickens pum pum puuummmmmm!
I bet Conan can't tell it
Supp is a very hard role. Every lane is your responsibility around lvl 6 or so
@@seeker296 only in high elo 😂low elo it's only bot
@@LeKoliasl
You actually can go roaming in low elo as well, but chances are high that your ADC will tilt and call X9 sup for leaving the lane. But you just gotta work with what you've got. You can at least increase the chance of your team to win the game.
while this video is a good start, i'd love to see how the adc could've prevented fiddle and camille losing top lane and to make it even harder, prevent camille from dying 4 more times outside of her tower range right after!
Big agree, it feels pretty hopeless when you're going at least even in bot lane and the top/jungle feed free kills. Then the enemy top layer just has completed control of the game.
Same scenario I would like to see, what can bot lane do when top is lost? The support goes and helps on the map?
@@GonzaChavz ADC can't, but if he can hold down lane by himself, then if support rushed mobies she can roam with the jungle to go and collapse on the enemy jungle or top. (or contest herald)
it just wouldnt. You would just assume those mistakes will happen randomly between ur toplaner/jungler and their toplaner/jungler over the games
@@bait_0154 I disabled my chat, which, while it's been an overall big improvement to my games, has made it unbelievably difficult to get my support to stop hovering around me, while I'm simply catching waves in complete safety. So that's really not happening, sadly
Everyone who plays ranked must see this video.
Everyone at my elo should watch this so I dont have to mute them before the game even starts
Uhhh... I think they underestimate the power of bronze dumbasses.
Riot should make a rewards system for watching educational league videos. Like you should get a hextech key/crate for watching a video on wave manipulation or the 5 second rule.
@@user-ff1ws1sf2u that just doesnt sound like a bad idea maybe in early lvls like lvl 30 to 35 u learn about roams lvl 35-40 wave control
@@user-ff1ws1sf2u that's actually a legit good suggestion
Voice: The true culprit behind these mistakes is lulu
Lulu: :'C
So in order to climb you need 4 cows and a cowboy, so dont play alistar because it will be a 5 cow game!
instructions unclear, played alistar jungle, am now beef
@@chriswho12345 XD
And you must have a highnoon skin
Good point
"idk why these people are stuck in elo hell"
So the problem is all of these damn smurfs slaughtering my teamates in ther....
"So we sent a bunch of challengers into elo hell"
Ah yes, now I see.
There aren't so many, u can't really blame smurfs for anything mor than that game in a while, it isn't an excuse for your low rank
@@anomaly3055 wrong. I always get some silver in the enemy team. I have never been silver. Why the matchmaking do this in the mirror role?
@@anomaly3055 It's a joke. That being said, I have run into multiple boosters recently, evident based off their match history, but have still been able to climb despite the guaranteed losses.
MiximumDennis how is that smurfing?
yeah bro 1 challenger on 1 gold game is definitely the reason why these hardstuck gold players with 500-1000 games are the reason they are stuck XDDDDDDDDDDDD
Sending challengers into gold is also the problem
Why? Golds wont play better if the Smurfs just quit the queue. They gonna still suck at the game and may never have the chance to know their mistakes
@Urarettin -D- Lexxar i mean like did faker had proguides or this skill capped of course not some things need to be self improved
It's only a problem for players they only play for LP and not to improve. A challenger enemy is the best way to learn the game trust me. Ur brain most of the time only realises mistakes if they are very clear and against a challenger they will be very clear.
theres not even 1000 challengers per servers, and millions of gold players... you have never met one :)
@@bezzo3328 I want get on my own level teammates and enemy team to improve myself.
funny to assume that fiddle will actually come top to gank in the first clip
Look at the map, he was ganking.
@@diegoseba12 everytime i saw the jungler near me. he wasnt ganking me. he was just taking a long route to the next jungle camp.
So, in short, instead of just playing and ensure MY job, I have to practically predict the future in a heartbeat to make the rest of my team do their job of not being stupid?
Sadly yes, because you can never rely on your team to do their own jobs properly, so you have to play in a way to ensure they do. Those rare games where they do their jobs well and you don’t have to worry about them are a blessing, but they are rare so don’t hope for those kinds of teams.
this game is already too stressful for this type of investment of my time....
"you never see challenger players int"
me in grandmaster:
gets zven as adc, goes 1/10
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Even Zven can go 1-10 when his opponents are people like DoubleLift, Karasmai, Tarzaned, Switfe etc.
@@xniyana9956 Why is Tarzaned in that list lmao
@@mrguy9771 Tarzaned is the jungler from which all junglers are spawned xd
@@mrguy9771 tarzaned is the best jg, no other jungler can compare except lpl or lck jgs
@@lgtv430 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAGAQ
How dare you try to make me take responsibility for my games. Its ALWAYS my teams fault.. smh
I'm iron 2, and my diamond friend says I deserve at LEAST mid plat, but my trash teammates hold me back. /s
Ventner u can 1v5 literally untill p4
@@suzakucsgo /s buddy
Ventner well it took me 200 games to get to plat but i can legit queue fill and play a different champ every game and still get out of silver in 100 games or less. So u r definitely not stuck in iron 2 cuz of your teammates
@@suzakucsgo you can 1v5 until d2
Never expect anything from your team and you'll never be disappointed
thank god if they ward and hit their skillshots.
What's the name of the background music, please tell us Skilled Capped? - Day 24
I really want to know the music they had in their old vids pls reply skillcapped
Just two random scenarios for the Fiddle - Camile (even though I agree with fact that Camile was wrong). In our beautiful low ello we have a jungle that pings he's coming top, you clear the wave, set up for a gank, you engage and he decides "yeeeah not now" turns back leaving you on low hp. But, ofc you chunked the enemy so our beautiful junglerer sees an opportunity now. He comes back, does what he did and dies. If you don't react it is your fault and until the end of the game you have absolutely no support from your junglerer because you let him die... And that's the 95% of the scenarios in silver and gold.
true in the oppsite too. i ping im going to gank and my laners farm minion instand engaging into fight
Why my team always sucks : I'm in it
support probably has the most agency in the first 10-15 min of the game out of all the roles. high utility, 0 need to cs, vision control, and the ability to roam is super valuable early game. later in the game, your body and soul will be sacrificed for the greater good but until then you are the king of the rift and the support with better macro can get their lanes ahead.
I mean, it's easier to lead cows instead of teammates at League... cause at least cows understand your commands, in league everyone does as they pleases and then blame you for losing the game, this game is DOOMED
yeah...just wanted to search what to do if your teammates literally dont listen to you :D
When he said, "wonder why you queue for adc at all"
I felt that
There should be a third question, 3. If I couldn’t haven’t prevented it, could I have at least lowered the cost?
like what forcing ur top to not use flash ?
8:18 best moment skill capped ever, totally worth it.
First out of million rules to climb is: whenever you have yasuo or teemo in team just dodge, it's better to lose 3lp and wait 6 mins instead of 30 min game and -20lp
Thank you
Yasuo on my team: 2/13/4
Yasuo on enemy team: 22/3/8
When my vayne runs down mid for 15 minutes and ends up 0/20 i go along holding her hand so i can make her life easier technically i got my cow to the desired location and i assisted it in it's actions which makes me a great teammate, thank you!
The sickest throws are when mates fight for nothing because they are ahead and die 2v5 and blame others and give shut downs repeatedly and lose off that. Or when ppl dont get vision control and die because they are catched. Or when ur main engage engages without backup
See a lot of 'if's' and 'but's', in reality most players especially in lower brackets dont' ward, don't ping used R / summoners of enemies and think the minimap is a PiP frame.
The problem isn't that you occassionally get "bad team mates", the problem is the same as it's always been, the ultra garbage system more often than not trying to force losses on players winning more than they lose which is just one reason for the super unhealthy environment.
lies - cows are waaaay more skillful than my average teammates are
and cows have good eyes and spatial awareness. in my country, cows go on the fields on their own and return back together at dawn. my teammates don't even seem to know the map that well. no wonder they get ganked even if the jungler shows on the map 10 s before and I ping them non stop to take care.
@@mirceadolineanu9715 on the other hand cows do not get mental boom cause another cow take their blade of grass aka gromp, raptor, redbuff [insert ANYTHING you can steal / take by accident]
cows’ tear can even refresh human eyes which allow them to see ghost
@@shiwuk4876 i have no idea what this comment means but it's still one of the best things I've ever read
Oh look there are my toplane Camille and my jungler fiddlestick when I'm playing support.
Was my fault? No
Could have I prevented this? No
Is Camille keeping dying 1v1 after this? Yes
Is fiddlestick flaming and don't looking the map to write in chat? Yes
How can I prevent it? Ff15
"YoU dOnT gEt BaD TeAmMaTeS"
You could have roamed top and helped Camille and Fiddle vs the 2v2, so yes you could have prevented it
Don’t always have to sit in bot. If your adc has a lead of some kind or is not in danger of dying get a move on and roam
Stop complaining. Why are you watching this video if you don't want to improve?
@@christianward615 you definitely got it wrong hah if he has a lead you actually should stay with him as a supp - you want to cover the one who is gonna carry not the ones who are dying because you are gonna die with them most likely. they said it so many times in their guides that im sure ik what im saying. and it applies to all roles. yes even jungler should actually avoid losing lanes. the opposite of what instinct tells (at least for me) but it definitely does work. the other reason is you are gonna leave adc who is doing good and he may get ganged by 3 and lose his lead. you need to prevent that as much as you can. ofc sometimes you should help losing lanes but those are just exceptions like they (losing lanes) made a good trade and there is veryyy high chance this is gonna work out.
@@kaikulimu ah yes, the famous support level 2 roam top, that could be a new strategy for season never
I needed this video... xD. It always seems like my bot lane gets double killed 5 minutes in, as a jungle I should pay more attention and rotate faster.
Mac Loves Wolves Jgl diff :P
Id be happy if they only get double killed once in 5 minutes. xD
I hate when adcs allow isolated trades onto supports.
Damn not only do I gotta play chess with my laner, but now I gotta play 4d chess to see in the future of all the most likely bad decision that my teammates are gonna do.
as a support main hardstuck in low elo, it feels kinda hopeless when i watch my top laners not even try to dodge skill shots every game 😶
@@raptorthefish3842 i mean, bear with me here. IF you're a good support, ok? reasonably good, you can guarantee the survival of the carries at most situations, so isn't best YOU play support so you don't leave the role for another idiot who wiill try do supp with a champion not made for it, using items not meant for it, and disrupting the team composition? If youre a good supp you can secure two people NOT dying in botlane, which is the place where everything usually starts to derail in a game...
Not to mention supports in late game can do a hell of a difference in teamfights by just using their item at the right time, guaranteeing vision and protecting.
I was 6-0 until i finally died. 3 Players decided to follow this guy and all died to a 1v3.
Here's a tip spam pinging teammates wont always make them move especially in low elo some people might find it annoying and mute you
Might? Will.
Actually you should play like if they had muted and pingmuted you.
About the vision move in the leblanc clip. If only it would be that easy in elo hell. As a jungler and mid main I usually look to ward river to secure vision (I'm usually the only one in my team that cares about vision control). Now, having vision on the map and good map awareness on my part does not keep my team mates from feeding. It seems like I'm playing with bots that have their ping sound turned off. When I see the enemy jungler in the middle of the river and ping them to be careful, they never care and go trading randomly and set themselves up for an easy gank. Even if they see the jungler, they don't know at what distance they should stay to be safe. I encounter this even 2-3 times per game.
8:18 Please. Never again.
xD
You spelled *"Give us more"* wrong
It's about asking yourself "What could I have done in that moment?", IN ADDITION to answering that question, if all your options are bad, it's about rethinking that question. "What could I have done prior to that moment?". Tryndamere didn't mess up by not helping Hecarim in that herald situation, you generally want to avoid fights when the enemy isn't in vision, especially if you're low elo. He messed up, as explained, by not doing anything *prior to that moment*
"What could I have not done" is also a good way to rethink your analysis
5:30 so youre telling us we should wait mid and look for a countergank instead of clearing your jungle? what if the enemy jungle doesnt come? how long am i supposed to wait? is it just doomed?
It's early game, ekko has just pathed top you know he won't go top lane because it's pushed in, it's a second nature game sense without even thinking that it's likely he will show mid.
I think a lot of this becomes subconscious eventually.
no he is telling u to path towards mid,then clear your jung in these situations.Map positioning is as important as teamfight positioning.You should be in position to react to a gank mid
this video lines up perfectly with my mentality. If your teams are so bad, according to you, then the enemy team is always equally bad. You are the factor that either pushes your team ahead, or drags it farther behind. If you get stuck, then you're where you belong.
Yes, you may get unlucky with your teams occationally. But likewise, you should get lucky just as often. It always cancels out in the long run, so if you cant make the difference, then you dont deserve to climb.
Therefore, its pointless to focus on your teams mistakes, and its pointless to flame them and throw blame as to why this particular game was lost. Always look at your own mistakes, and how YOU can improve, so that you can make the difference in your games, and on average win more than you lose, such that you can climb once again.
I managed to improve at the game because I decided to focus on my mistakes and learned in matches. It's really that simple and people are still denying it and blaming others even though the only thing you need to do is to focus on yourself.
That's exactly it, most matches in low elo have equal skilled players and will come down to two things : decision making and team composition, the team with easier to play champions usually has the biggest chance of winning because its way easier to assume A Annie will know how to ult with stun in a team fight and pyroblast everyone than praying a Vex will skillshot everything. With easier to play champions there will be less mistakes to make mechanically, and low elo games often come down to stupid teamfights, where a single mistake will cost them everything.
So you often tell people to play with easier champions, but they will inssist on playing with the latest cool toys riot has released and get destroyed for executing mechanics wrong.
Me when i get slained :
is it my mistake? Yes, i am
can i learn from it? Yes, i am
My Teammate when they get slained :
is it my mistake? Yes
Can i learn from from it? NO, and i will do it again
This video is something along the lines of "if the moon was in position x and I stood in an angle of 73° to the tidal wave near the shore, then I could have prevented this". Honestly, if you go back far enough, you will ALWAYS find something you could have done differently to prevent this insane butterfly effect. However, that does not mean that it is your fault or that you could have possibly known that a bad thing was going to happen, because it takes 1000 decisions of other players as well to all fall into line for this specific event to happen.
Interesting perspective, however I disagree with the last part as by making the decisions leading up to the event could of been prevented
So what to do when playing as an adc your top lane goes 0/10 in the first 6 minutes? I've had several games that happened in a row. I feel pretty helpless when that happens.
As a diamond ADC main all I can say is, while that will happen sometimes, it usually won't. All you can do is try to create advantages in bot lane and try to get your jungler to come gank so that you can get fed too. Sometimes your whole team just hard ints despite anything you can do and that's just the reality of playing ADC, but that very rarely will happen if you are playing well. Even if their top gets insanely fed, if you can stall out until late game you'll outscale everyone
@@Destructivepurpose "it usually won't" oh boi you havent seen my history
Do one with Hector bot, and the support:
1.- Applies absolutely 0 pressure, always behind you on the horizontal
2.- Doesn´t heal nor shield nor poke
3.- Does engages at the worst possible timings (huge enemy wave, enemy jg in bot, etc, all combined)
4.- ACTIVELY sabotages farming by hitting minions in a way that seems almost perfected so as to mess your last-hitting
5.- Pushes the wave when you try to slowpush or freeze
6.- Stays even if asked to leave in mid-game, again, just soaking exp and ruining farm
7- Keeps feeding
8.- Puts 3-4 wards the whole game
Because that is around 70% of my supports. I´m not exagerating. What can I do then?
I do not follow up on the stupid engages
I beg for him to leave so I can at least freeze and free-farm after outer tower falls
I play safely
What do I do then?????? TT. TT I´m so desperate, I really love adcing, but it just sucks so fucking much, even more so in low elo like me where the support is so fucking pivotal the fucking first 15 minutes, and it just seems people pick support because they think it is the role for relaxing, doing nothing, and biblical ammounts of trolling.
When my next top laner goes 0 6 and the jg that helps him and goes 0 4 i will ask myself those questions and try not to lose my mind
Edit: update my last bot lane yas sion and had a powerspike at 3 16
if your top is 0 6 and jungler is 0 4 you let that game go
this is for when your top is 1/4 and your jungler is 1/3/4
some games are beyond your control. Dont overadjust
(i am a silver/gold piece of trash tho so take with grain of salt)
Jungler helping toplaner xd
this is where challenger knowledge comes into play lol. You could still win that game, but being challenger would make is easier XD
The whole point of this video is how not to go 0 6
This phenomenon is hilarious. Thank you for providing such good insight and advice about this hard to describe concept.
Try playing in Las servers and check if it applies.
So what he is basically saying is that you need to be a challanger to climb out of Bronze/silver/gold elo.
Good luck everyone!
i'd love to know what to do when i'm playing ezrael adc and my top voli dies 3 times before minute 6 and afks
Probably playing against illaoi and your are screwed anyway
its simple!
was it your fault? YES
could you prevent it? YES
this video is so stupid....
the problem with the jg in our elo play very passively.... that fiddle wont go on top unless the top trades.....
Can we just appreciate this thumbnail. Its Beautiful
Top player here. last game mid went 0/8 in 15 minutes, bot was 3 kills and 8 deaths total. Every game its me who's not feeding and i win my lane 90% of the time and other lanes int. I gank whenever my tp is up or the enemies are between mid or top jungle. We dont have dragons because no1 apparently wants to do them and jungle solo farms whole game. How can i prevent that?
" imagine that they're all cows "
me: cowseps
You guys deserve more subs. These videos are top-tier
Is it my fault?
Prolly no
Could i have done something to prevent this?
Yes,1v5 pentakill and solo kill my midlane 10 more times while warding every lane
Fr they expect you to transform into jesus and be the messiah that your 10 and 37 team needs
I don't understand the Fiddle example. If you veered off pathing every time your landers were in a possibly bad situation, you would stop farming. I'm not a jungler, and maybe that's my disconnect, but I really don't get it.
Gonna show this to my silver teammates so I can collect my daily silver tears
Those mentality, reality-based videos actully help me climb even more than the technical ones.
Just remember, if wrangling the teammates doesn’t work, bring out the orbital ion cannon
Or opresser 2
Honestly, getting low elo players to admit that its their fault is the most difficult thing to do. Somehow, most low elo players think that they are better than everyone else and will always try to be the "cowboy". Except, instead of leading their team to victory they will just flame everyone else.
all u need to carry low elo is just type in the chat /muteall
All the way up to master tier at least
You know what’s crazy. I’ve already been asking myself these questions and a lot of the time the first question is a no. But the second one is a lot of the time yes. I’m an emerald player and I just don’t have the skills necessary to prevent something I didn’t see. Bassicly what I’m saying is I need map awareness. Thanks for the guide
If Cows are afk, cowboy cant move them by himself...
One thing I’ve learned playing league, especially in lower elos: MASTERIES DONT MEAN SHIT, IN FACT HAVING 7 MIL POINTS IN CHAMPION AND STILL BEING IN IRON MAKES YOU LOOK EVEN WORSE
I shouldn’t have to be challenger to climb out of the other ranks
Don't try to improve and stay silver then wtf
@@Britannia43 I'm trying to improve and get to silver
Simply awesome. U guys are great. I didn't even thought about all of this
no one:
me: keeps hitting refresh just to see the view count skrocket
I see you are a man of culture.
I’d really love to see a video where you show when to roam as an support, I find myself having trouble with that ^^
have prio first, don't leave your ADC alone under tower, if it's soloQ pay attention to what he is doing when you leave and ping him or even tell him in chat, don't just expect him to play smart and not die.
for example, when an objective like dragon is to be taken there is a simple rule, it goes p-v-p-e (push - vision - push - engage), you don't just push - vision - engage unless you just slowpushed a huuuuge wave because you simply just don't have enough time, so you gotta win prio first, THEN vision control (vision ALWAYS comes after having prio, not first, this is how you get camped and die), go back, win some more prio, shove another wave, then the objective, this makes the enemy botlane unable to rotate on time.
hope it helps.
it's simple. Is ur adc fed and can 1v2 bot? roam to help other lanes and give solo xp. Is it adc trash and losing lane? Roam to help other lanes and give solo xp. This is a joke and I dont play support, listen to the guy above me xd
@Siimon0803 Hey. I'm a diamond 1 support main and heavy roaming is my signature playstyle. Currently I have around 67-68% winrate with my two main champions (Morgana and Bard) both of which I roam a lot with across accounts in plat 2 - dia 3 elo range. The account I'm playing it atm is ranked around the top 20 morgana's on my server and has a roaming score of around 3.1 which is just slightly below the average roaming stat of a diamond jungler. Credentials on the table, if you want I could write you a few paragraphs on roaming as a support. How to roam with each type and each champion (answer me with your fav champs for specifics). Also how to gank lanes, how to track the enemy jungle to get deep wards, to not die to him, to stop drake sneaking and scuttle takes and to stop his ganks. How to ward both for your lane and for other lanes. How to use tempo windows to pull off crazy far roams into toplane or invades. Also basics like when to leave your adc and how to judge matchups and lane priority. Possibilities are endless but if you do want that make sure to mention your rank so I know what to focus on. Cheers.
Billy Hatzi first of all thank you for the effort or writing such a long text. I never had a rank, that’s why I can’t tell you that, I’m only playing normals right now. I’d really enjoy it if you’d text me this all, some of it I know, like tracking enemy jungler and getting deep wards. But I would be mad if you put it in again, always helps putting that in your head again ^^. My mains right now are: Lux (I wouldn’t play her on support in Ranked, I just enjoy it in normals) but in ranked it would be like Pyke, naut, rakan, sometimes bard.
Alessandro Morelli thank you for that! About getting lane prio, I know that, tho I think it’s not nessererly to stay on bot lane when my adc is just afk farming under tower when the enemy just pushed and I’m sure they won’t dive. The other informations are great tho, thank you!
0:45 Cowsep **crying in the river**
Mind blowing as usual! Thx skill capped
I laughed so hard at the Lulu part
Wait what about if the jungle looks like he's coming to lane then b-lines for Krugs. Farms the krugs the whole time they pushed and try to Gank after wave is reverse pushed back to enemy tower
I need that thumbnail pic lol
i saw a lot of challengers smurfing from iron to master the only similarities is high skill and reading the situation never depending on team.
sure you can some times help team or yourself not feeding or make situation better.
i dont know what you wanna say when your team loose in 15 min with 30 death and it is happen usually not in iron in gold!!
every lane 2 lvl ahead and you cant touch them at all.
FYI i play this game 5 years
Imgine your teammates being cow
Me:
I see no difference at all
Thats kinda disrespectful to cows...
As a jg, no matter what i play, be it draft or ranked, one of these happen
1. Trolls who feed and then leave
2. Me *pings assist 3x at herald*
Top who just killed his enemy and is almost full*stays in lane*
I go to the other side to get drake, then he dies to a gank while pushing (he hasn't used wards since the beginning of the game) and he spams jg diff
3. One of the lanes being camped all the time
riot: ok enemy team gets golds and platinums. you get bronze and people who just installed the game. see im balanced. you have a winning streak of 2 games
Well that's pointless because u can't win a game on Ur own lol even if you put the world's best Gk in a low table team Against top 4 there is only so much he can do lol ..there should be premade teams so they can keep improving together that's the only solution
It's not even that every team you play whit in Random que is bad.. sometimes their just not on the same wavelength lol
Problem with "jungler pathing to your lane" is how vague it is.
Do they clear all camps on the way? Do they double back for no reason? Do they ping omw top and then just go mid to bot instead of top?
If anyone have some free time, please read this. It's a true story and I often have this issue. This is the last game like this:
I'm a top laner and my support want to go mid but my mid didn't gave up mid. My support ended up run it down all lane ( enemy has aphelios, kayle, senna, oriana and yi, mostly late game champ and they get roughly 5 kills each; I'm sylas and not so fed. All lane are losing, bot and jungle are losing in their natural before enemy got fed ). I does managed to 1vs3 a 1 time in early game, 3 time in mid game and I even make calls for dragons, split push bot/top, gank lanes but aphelios is 200+ years and 15/5/6, yi is 7/0/3, oriana is 16/5/4, senna is 5/3/14. The only one in the enemy has negative kill is kayle, 5/7/2. I'm 17/10/4 sylas and I literaly carried them to late game with all 5 tower and 1 inhib destroyed by myself. I'm able to 1vs3 in combat but everyone in my team do negative damage, the "run it down all lane" guy was 0/22 and they are all useless in combat. They can't even def towers properly. I ended up took 3 dragons but enemy team manage to get that ocean soul and they get baron 2 times. I tried to made asuch pick as I can but they keep going together and never fight me without ~4 people. Their support and their jungler get vision control properly while I have to buy sweeper as top laner because nobody in my team build sweeper. My jungle kept his warding totem all 35 mins game and literaly put it down 10 times, the case goes the same with all the others (the "run it down all lanes guy" didn't put a single ward all game). I couldn't carry my teammates and lost the game.
Please tell me what I did wrong and what can I do to improve
About my pick, I pick sylas because my team has 3 AD already, morde was banned, akali is trash and I don't like vlad.
Please help me improve
OMG, thank u so much! Love u guys S2
Nice guide as always i encountered a scénario often and what should i do in that case , playing mid getting camped by jungler , since i got camped i Lost lead on the middle i csnt really push and i cant move from my lane then the enemy mid do and got blamed because i dont .. what should i do that hqppen very often and since i am quiet aggresif mid laner i cant carry
Love this video, gj, ty, this was a really helpful video
Okay but what can I do when I’m 5/0 top lane, my mid lane is being camped by jg and keeps overextending and dying making their mid 7/0, and their jg 2/0, my jg is afk farming, and my bot lane is hard losing 2v2?
so as a top laner when my bot lane dies 4 times am I suppose to just completely leave my lane so we can 3v2 bot lane to keep them from dying more? I only have 1 teleport so I don't really know how you're suppose to prevent 4 cases of them dying.
Also all of these situations show you having lane priority. If I'm like a Maokai going into someone like Rumble for example I very rarely have any lane priority. Am I suppose to sacrifice 2 waves of minions just to roam mid to prevent a gank from happening?
That's the problem I have with these guides. They always show best case situation and never hard decision situations like if it's worth to give up half your lane just to stop your laners from feeding.
If they are mostly dying to ganks then try learning jungle tracking and tell your teammates in chat where the enemy jungler is. If it's not ganks, then you can't do anything and try carrying to game by yourself or relieve pressure in some major fights with your TP. Be calm and don't be frustrated if you lose instead of looking at the results of your games. Look at what you learned and make some improvement to yourself. Someday it can help you in your future rank games.
Is the tierlist video coming out?
when the qiana goes to botlane and i spam ping my not to back of while iam taking midlane turret is it my fault that my bot dies and then blames me about not following as heimerdinger
btw i love your content keep up the good work
Its not ur fault even if u werent taking the turret u shouldnt be following an assasin in the jg if it isnt warded he could be faking a roam then just wait for u to follow him an probably kill u
My dudes at skillcapped knew I had a rough day yesterday in soloq. I only got one game where i didnt have several teammates intentionally losing that day, played like 10.
Coming in clutch with the timing
I really like learning from you guys. Gotta love the whole team
these guides really helped me open my mind to playing with my head and just controlling my games, even though I know most of the theory of these kind of videos, I always come back and rewatch them just to make sure i'm doing good, btw climbed 2 elos in like 2 days just because of this content thx
Skill Capped I have a problem I can play usuar adc like ezreal, Caitlyn, Kalista and others fine but when i pick Vayne I suck so much feels unusable even if it's my main feels so bad i don't know what to do.
Do you guys offer private coaching? I'm considering joining but only there's private coaching.
Can you guys do guides on how to be succesful in living? Your guides are so crisp and clean that I just use these for my daily life since they just teach you how to think differently. Not especially LoL focussed
Thats just multiplayer in general. Idk how these streamers get such good lobbies cuz im fighting for my life every match every game while they seem to have it so easy they can even fluff off and do trickshots
sorry, but when i play jg and feed my top into 5/0 possition and he will lose lane anyway, not because enemy top is some super smurf, but only because my top is bad, what should i do more?
everytime, when i lose as jg, who was babysiting top on top impact, i am a bit tilted, what in that case?
The key to forcing the fight at lv2 is to LAND an ability though. I'm not skillcapped, I will hindsight that pyke all day, when youre nearing 2 with a champ that needs to hit a skillshot, dont stand in the enemy wave, advance from the side. Twitch got a lot of free real estate from pyke's mispositioning BEFORE the lvl 2 attempt started and Pyke was too creep-blocked to threaten the harpoon.