Yes, I hung in through the whole rant and acknowledgement of loyalty. I completely understand your point and I hope that one day you get a surprise in the mail. I've been a Canon guy all my life and love their products and at one point I too looked at all the others to see if I wanted to go to a different brand when I transitioned to mirrorless, but I stayed true to Canon. I think it's easy to slip to another brand because for a short time one brand may be a little better at autofocus or stabilization or colour, etc., but I stayed loyal too. Yet, I'm now playing with a Fujifilm X-T5 just for fun because it takes me back the same way your 80 to 200 does, but I'll never leave Canon because I love and know their quirks. When I'm on the job I take my trusty R5 and I relax. So for those of us who are loyal all I'd like to say is let's continue to enjoy the process and the memories will come - just be cool. Take care out there and thank you for your thoughts and honesty....
Thanks for hanging to the end. I forgot to mention that I considered Fuji as well. I still would love to own a 100S but in truth since I photograph a wide variety of subjects the Nikon Z8 suits my needs more than the Fuji 100S could. What was interesting was there were a couple of photographers that I enjoy here on UA-cam that went from Sony to Fuji and now went to the Z8. I admit I watched their videos mostly to see how they made out with the Fuji system. I assume I was ahead of the curve. LOL. Unless you have a specific reason for a specific brand most know you can achieve great success with pretty much every camera body on the market today. The lenses, well, to me that's where you can debate the topic. smiles. Thanks again.
I get why you keep that lens.I inherited a Leica M6 with a 50mm f2 from my grandma. She bought it in '85 when we were kids to cover the family and while Leica is expensive today, it was expensive back than, certainly for her being a widow. 40 years later it's still a great camera. It outlived her and my dad. I don't use it very often compared to my Nikon Z and I probably could sell it for good money, but I will hold on to it as long as possible. Maybe my son will use it one day. As for the rant: I totally agree! Companies create artificial "loyalty programs" but in the end they don't care if you're a loyal customer. Maybe thats why airlines, hotels, big manufacturers... they all just care about numbers, not people. I guess they've lost their soul a bit in lack of better words.
I love my nikon 80-200 so much. For DSLRs, it was one of the sharpest lenses that I owned, even compared to primes. And the bokeh was really nice. Mine broke about a year ago, and really was the impetus for me to finally jump to mirrorless. I can't get rid of mine either. Yes, it will still manually focus, but no, I want autofocus on a lens like that. I'll be keeping mine, too. I don't think I can actually get any money for it now. Like you, my 24-120 has now taken over as my go-to telephoto zoom.
I completely agree with you, these corporations are not as smart as they think they are and they are very ungrateful, I'm hoping you will get the following first and then the sponsors.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate the kind words and support. Every now and again I just have to let companies like Nikon understand there are many of us who go unnoticed by them. You know the people who actually keep them in business. smiles
Entièrement d'accord avec vous, j'ai un Z6II et comme vous un 24-120 F/4 dont je ne me sépare jamais, pour l'instant. J'aime beaucoup votre façon de dire les choses. Je vous regarde de la France
Interesting Michael. I agree with you on the 80-200mm all versions of that have a special rendering imo. I thought your rant was heading in a different direction- namely FTZ adapter. Are you not disappointed that Nikon has not released an FTZ with motor drive for all the AF D lenses? You couldn’t AF your 80-200 on your Z8 even if the selection ring hadn’t broken- that to me was a kick in the face to all loyal Nikon owners and a missed opportunity. I have a Z7ii only using Nikon originally from D50 D300 and D610. I sold all my AFD lens because of the FTZ lack of functionality. Tbh I nearly always shoot manual lens now ironically- I have a z Mount Voigtlander 40mm which is my favourite/ go to lens. I have enjoyed exploring using old manual lenses on the Z7 - particularly as I discovered a way to get focus confirmation on all manual lenses by using a Sony to z Mount Af adapter from Neewer - I adapt my lens to So y and then use the thin Af adapter to convert to Z Mount and this gives me focus confirmation- game changer if you use manual lenses. Regards Andy
Hey Andy, thanks for watching and commenting. I love the Voigtlander 50mm F2 Apo lens. I considered picking up the 40mm but it being so close to the 50, I'm afraid I wouldn't use it that often despite from what I've heard the 40mm has a far different character than the 50mm Apo. I owned the 40 and 58mm Voigts for the F mount and found myself reaching for the 40 more often than the 58mm. As far as the adapter, I think that makes my point of companies wanting you to keep purchasing new products. I really owned used about 3 F mount lenses not counting the 2 Voigts, so the adapter issue didn't bother me as much as someone who was far more invested in older F mount glass. I can however see your point. And for the record, I'm with you. I manually focus many of my images as well. The only ones I don't are the birds in flight and kids playing sports. Most portraits, even kids, landscapes, and all most of my infrared images are manually focused. Yes, I am a HUGE fan of the Voigtlander lenses. To me they are the bargain on Z mount and other mounts as well. Thanks again.
LOL. Thanks, but really, I'm doing great. Thanks for watching and your continued support. Now if Voigtlander wanted to throw one my way, I wouldn't complain. smiles.
LOl I honestly just came from one guy doing yet another shill review on Hasselblad. And I commented out of nowhere so many Camera UA-camrs show Hasselblad cameras. Even grainydays who only shoots film did a full hour on Hasselblad. It's so transparent.
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Yes, I hung in through the whole rant and acknowledgement of loyalty. I completely understand your point and I hope that one day you get a surprise in the mail. I've been a Canon guy all my life and love their products and at one point I too looked at all the others to see if I wanted to go to a different brand when I transitioned to mirrorless, but I stayed true to Canon. I think it's easy to slip to another brand because for a short time one brand may be a little better at autofocus or stabilization or colour, etc., but I stayed loyal too. Yet, I'm now playing with a Fujifilm X-T5 just for fun because it takes me back the same way your 80 to 200 does, but I'll never leave Canon because I love and know their quirks. When I'm on the job I take my trusty R5 and I relax. So for those of us who are loyal all I'd like to say is let's continue to enjoy the process and the memories will come - just be cool. Take care out there and thank you for your thoughts and honesty....
Thanks for hanging to the end. I forgot to mention that I considered Fuji as well. I still would love to own a 100S but in truth since I photograph a wide variety of subjects the Nikon Z8 suits my needs more than the Fuji 100S could. What was interesting was there were a couple of photographers that I enjoy here on UA-cam that went from Sony to Fuji and now went to the Z8. I admit I watched their videos mostly to see how they made out with the Fuji system. I assume I was ahead of the curve. LOL. Unless you have a specific reason for a specific brand most know you can achieve great success with pretty much every camera body on the market today. The lenses, well, to me that's where you can debate the topic. smiles. Thanks again.
Still have my Olympus E-1 and the 14-54mm lens that was its "standard zoom", both bought new when they were released...
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good luck with your photography.
I get why you keep that lens.I inherited a Leica M6 with a 50mm f2 from my grandma. She bought it in '85 when we were kids to cover the family and while Leica is expensive today, it was expensive back than, certainly for her being a widow. 40 years later it's still a great camera. It outlived her and my dad. I don't use it very often compared to my Nikon Z and I probably could sell it for good money, but I will hold on to it as long as possible. Maybe my son will use it one day.
As for the rant: I totally agree! Companies create artificial "loyalty programs" but in the end they don't care if you're a loyal customer. Maybe thats why airlines, hotels, big manufacturers... they all just care about numbers, not people. I guess they've lost their soul a bit in lack of better words.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'd hold on the Leica as well. Good luck with your images, no matter what camera you're using at the time.
I love my nikon 80-200 so much. For DSLRs, it was one of the sharpest lenses that I owned, even compared to primes. And the bokeh was really nice. Mine broke about a year ago, and really was the impetus for me to finally jump to mirrorless. I can't get rid of mine either. Yes, it will still manually focus, but no, I want autofocus on a lens like that. I'll be keeping mine, too. I don't think I can actually get any money for it now. Like you, my 24-120 has now taken over as my go-to telephoto zoom.
Always good to hear from you my friend.
I completely agree with you, these corporations are not as smart as they think they are and they are very ungrateful, I'm hoping you will get the following first and then the sponsors.
Unfortunately, they look at numbers, but I agree, they should also reward loyal fans, or customers of their products.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate the kind words and support. Every now and again I just have to let companies like Nikon understand there are many of us who go unnoticed by them. You know the people who actually keep them in business. smiles
Entièrement d'accord avec vous, j'ai un Z6II et comme vous un 24-120 F/4 dont je ne me sépare jamais, pour l'instant. J'aime beaucoup votre façon de dire les choses. Je vous regarde de la France
Merci de nous avoir regardés et de vous plaindre. Bonne chance pour votre photographie.
I still have this lens. I use it with a D750. Still love this lens!!
Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts. Good luck with your photography.
Interesting Michael. I agree with you on the 80-200mm all versions of that have a special rendering imo. I thought your rant was heading in a different direction- namely FTZ adapter. Are you not disappointed that Nikon has not released an FTZ with motor drive for all the AF D lenses? You couldn’t AF your 80-200 on your Z8 even if the selection ring hadn’t broken- that to me was a kick in the face to all loyal Nikon owners and a missed opportunity.
I have a Z7ii only using Nikon originally from D50 D300 and D610. I sold all my AFD lens because of the FTZ lack of functionality. Tbh I nearly always shoot manual lens now ironically- I have a z Mount Voigtlander 40mm which is my favourite/ go to lens. I have enjoyed exploring using old manual lenses on the Z7 - particularly as I discovered a way to get focus confirmation on all manual lenses by using a Sony to z Mount Af adapter from Neewer - I adapt my lens to So y and then use the thin Af adapter to convert to Z Mount and this gives me focus confirmation- game changer if you use manual lenses. Regards Andy
Hey Andy, thanks for watching and commenting. I love the Voigtlander 50mm F2 Apo lens. I considered picking up the 40mm but it being so close to the 50, I'm afraid I wouldn't use it that often despite from what I've heard the 40mm has a far different character than the 50mm Apo. I owned the 40 and 58mm Voigts for the F mount and found myself reaching for the 40 more often than the 58mm. As far as the adapter, I think that makes my point of companies wanting you to keep purchasing new products. I really owned used about 3 F mount lenses not counting the 2 Voigts, so the adapter issue didn't bother me as much as someone who was far more invested in older F mount glass. I can however see your point. And for the record, I'm with you. I manually focus many of my images as well. The only ones I don't are the birds in flight and kids playing sports. Most portraits, even kids, landscapes, and all most of my infrared images are manually focused. Yes, I am a HUGE fan of the Voigtlander lenses. To me they are the bargain on Z mount and other mounts as well. Thanks again.
Nikon, hook this man up already! 😅
LOL. Thanks, but really, I'm doing great. Thanks for watching and your continued support. Now if Voigtlander wanted to throw one my way, I wouldn't complain. smiles.
LOl I honestly just came from one guy doing yet another shill review on Hasselblad. And I commented out of nowhere so many Camera UA-camrs show Hasselblad cameras. Even grainydays who only shoots film did a full hour on Hasselblad. It's so transparent.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad to know it's not just me who saw it. smiles
I thought that I would never use my Olympus OM-G I started on in 1983. I still shoot my Film 35mm camera.
Thanks for checking in. There are days I miss a film camera but not processing the film.