It has the potential to be**. Whether people on a large scale internalize these messages for the betterment of themselves and others is another matter, there’s some reason to be cynical about that
@calska140 , Curious to why in the same breath you attempt to insult my intelligence while replying to a *year old post* It appears that I at least have an upstairs. I guess you should go clean your room now, bottom feeder.
fin doe why? Theres plenty of dumb people who can see the signs of the times. They cannot articulate thoughts or remember important facts but they can be wise. Wisdom and intelligence arent the same.
Yes but not the other way around you wouldn't consider a smart fool intelligent. In other words an Highly educated person who lacks wisdom cant be considered intelligent.
Raymeester if the internet can't handle that we need to break it harder than Kim Ks ass. That would be a podcast for the ages. There might not be any betas left after it hit.
I love Jordan Peterson. He says the things I think constantly. That part where he discusses dealing with an alcoholic brother was a play by play of my life. My brother was a dangerous drug abuser through his teens. I could list the hundred stories. It was all a downward spiral, tearing my family apart. We tried everything too. Eventually, we all had enough. Atleast I did. I was leaving for college in about two weeks and he had what alcoholics call a "moment of clarity". We spent that day painting a canoe and I straight up told him that I wasn't going to let him drag me down anymore. I figured once I left he would either go to prison or die. He checked himself into rehab later that month. Going on 5 years sober now, god bless.
God bless you and your brother. Looks like Peterson's dictum of telling the truth and letting the chips fall where they may yielded the best possible outcome.
Jocko Willink could read the ingredient list on a bottle of ranch and I would be on the edge of my seat in suspense. That dude's voice is something serious lol
" mayonnaise, sour cream, buttermilk, salt, black pepper, garlic, onion, chives, parsley, dill...now go away from darkness and toward the light." -in Jocko's voice. Grin, your welcome. 🕯💖👌🏼🤓😉
@@chucksirron6346 for me, I've literally never had a father, he was 100% gone straight away, so nothing to write off or otherwise. These guys help massively and I see no shame in that. X
Anyone else notice how quickly Jocko adopts the speech patterns of whoever he’s talking to? The speed, the word choice, the individual habits of people. He never interrupts anyone unless the person talking to him does the same. That is good communication. That’s part of what makes him successful!
"Life is Suffering" says Jordan. "Suffering builds Character" my father used to say. "Character is Everything" says Jordan. Character is your set of tools for dealing with life.
Obviously I found this video a tad late and am just learning about these men. When Mr. Peterson said "be the most reliable person at your fathers funeral" that hit me hard as hell. My father passed this last year and it is true everyone was a blubbering mess and I felt it was my job to make sure things went smoothly. I grieved in silence in my own time, and it really meant a lot to hear someone respect that moment in my life.
I’ve always had the same role. I’ve always been the one others have leaned on, when they couldn’t stand alone. Maybe that’s why I am who I am, where I am, and when I am. One little bit of advice. Find a time and place to let your own grief out. If you don’t, it’s coming anyway. But, it’ll come at a time and place of its own. Most times it’ll be inconvenient as hell.
@@truck9009 The world's sorrow leads to literal death. Godly sorrow leads to life and repentance. I think it's important to also point out that each of us leaned on someone else at many moments throughout our lives. From conception, through childhood, adulthood and if you become old and grey. Even castaways use what other human beings have taught and left behind to keep living. None of us exist without someone else, or else we wouldn't have been born. Human beings are meant to receive love and to share love. If not cared for humans would never be able to make it to an age where they could stand. For instance, babies who are killed before birth do not ever get to stand on earth like we do. No love. No life. At one point we cried uncontrollably and slobbered on ourselves, unable to even clean our own rear ends. People like to forget that and it instills arrogance. Each of us are as delicate as snow flakes. One or two degrees and it's all gone. God upholds everything that lives, even the wicked. The wicked do not inwardly acknowledge these things, that's how they can bring so much harm without an inch of self restraint or second thought. They don't believe in a higher authority and they do not believe the things they even say they believe. They don't believe they will be accountable. God has comforted me through plenty of pain and death. When I say comfort, in my situation I became well aware that God keeps us alive even when our hearts want to stop beating. Gods comfort keeps us alive when even our bodies should have failed. Grief has physical properties because it happens beyond the quantum level in the "Spirit". Information never actually "breaks down". The body may turn to dust, but the information never actually dissappears. Human bodies are mortal, but the spirit of a person isn't destroyed. Like everything else it just experiences a "phase change". Boiling water doesn't dissappear, it changes and it moves. Consciousness is the same way. Spirits are immortal. Destruction in the spirit is "eternal hell" but preservation in the spiritual realm is eternal life or "heaven". Death is something everyone has in common, but people don't confront it until it spits in their face. God taught me that goodbye isn't forever as far as death goes. Having the knowledge that there is a God and that there is more to the universe was essential to my personal survival. Wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. Not that I am special, but I am blessed to have been made aware of it. Jesus was our example of how to face death. He beat it. He was proof that death is a force that is subject to God. Death doesn't reign. Death is not the final say. Nor is it a true authority. We thought gravity was in authority, birds knew long before rockets that this was not true. I suppose it's good to hang your head and sit in the dark sometimes. We gain knowledge and perseverance by it. But always take your inner light with you if you have one. If one doesn't have the light of truth in them, that's all they'll see in those moments is darkness. Have yourself a great day my friend. Feels good to see folks trying to encourage others. Hope is so important. Faith hope and love. Makes the pain tolerable. 👍
45:00 when I was about 9 years old, my nearly 80-year-old great uncle once caught me looking at the down cards in a solitaire game. He very sternly said, "Don't cheat! If you cheat at cards, you'll cheat at life. It starts you down a bad path." Essentially, be honest in everything you do, even the small things. Over 40 years later, I remember that.
or play "for" you, can be a double edge sword if your not capable of seeing deception as people can and WILL take advantage of your goodness, you can bet on that.
Same. One of my life goals is to thank him personally. Might seem like a stupid and unimportant thing to others, I can do it by email (I will do that too), but I want to shake the hand of a man who had such a huge impact on my life.
Enigma, PLZ GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK ......AND ..... PLZ GIVE YOUR WORLD A BREAK and the clean your room like jpb and jocko tell you to, ease up, life always turns to something new , allow that new thing to be a good thing, be honest, look to heal a relationship. ..... things will be okay
This is the best Jordan Peterson video I've ever seen. This is a true and concise distillation of the essence of his beliefs. Not only that, but Jocko's questions are thoughtful and provocative in just the right ways, and yet he knows exactly when to back out and let Jordan say what he needs to say without interruption. THIS is a world-class interview, in my opinion.
@@RV-jw7nb Hey man, this is just a guess on my part, but I'm pretty sure the friend is Seth Stone, Jocko reads an open letter to him at the beginning of the live podcast (title "humbled and mystified"). Hope this helps👍 Get after it.
" A bad account for yourself and a bad plan is better than no account for yourself and no plan" - Jordan B Peterson. Thank you for this conversation to the 3 of you. This is priceless.
So for this shoe I woke up at 4am, cleaned my room before 4:30am, hit the weights for a good hour, showered, then brewed 2 cups of Jocko White Tea and sat to listen. Great way to sort things early in the am.
It's piss easy to do that....the difficult part and literally where 99% of people fuck up: are you doing this in one month's time? And don't answer it, because you don't know the answer.
Never thought it was such a big deal back when I was in the Marines... until my wife told me one day that one of the things she appreciated and noticed when we were first together was that I wasn't dressed like a yo-boy and wore fitting clothes and walked upright without a hunch.
@@daniellopez2239 Even if that were true it wouldn't serve as a critique or valid comment in this situation. Your premise is no doubt faulty and your comment is disengaged from any reality beyond your delusional experience. You presumably should have been paying more attention to this podcast as you seem to have no reason to actually be alive. I see you wrote this about 3 months ago; which is good because it means there were 3 months of opportunities for you to wink out of existence in some way. You have no value in your life. Thus life in general has NO value for you...and remember that good ol' Army song: "Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes..." Do yourself a favor dipshit.
@@finneganmcbride6224 @Arty Party It’s not stealing if you don’t claim it as your own and spread the idea without personal gain. Just put a comment at the end acknowledging where it came from so commenters with sticks up their asses don’t freak out.
@@quinntolchin3080 I wouldn’t say he has a stick up his ass. Because he saw no credit. I’m all for calling out copycats trying to claim the glory of someone else’s actions.
Idk why but Jocko feels like my dad, Jordan Peterson feels like my grandpa, Goggins feels like my older brother, and Joe Rogan feels like my uncle who hangs out all the time
Imagine a Greek philosopher and a Spartan solider talking and giving advice about life and whole world can watch and listen to them from the comfort of their homes . It's crazy what technology has made possible. Our ancestors missed out so much.
His story about waiting for a comrade comming home reminds me of 2003. I was at home because I broke my hand in an accident short before deployment. Took training a bit to serious. I was sitting in my living room watching TV. The barbacue was heating up. I went inside because it was fucking hot outside. My splinting was annoying me hard. I had a beer in my healthy hand. Then it comes on TV. A convoy was hit by an IED. 4 dead, 23 injured. I knew from the size of the unit given in the news within a second: This was my batallion. Back than I wasn't very experienced. Saw some small scale action later. But I never came in a situation again in my life that I hated more than this. Sitting on your ass, with a beer half around the world while your friends are lying in their own blood. Only thing that came close to it was seeing my grandma (which I really loved) suffering from dementia more and more over the years and not beeing able to do shit about it. This feeling of beeing unable to take action when the stakes are that high is the worst shit ever.
Please pray that my 25 yr old son, Seth, will one day [soon] invest his time listening to conversations like this, esp this one. There's only so much a 'mom' can teach about becoming a good man and why that pursuit is valuable. Pray for me too, as I'm the voice of reason in his life. Thank you, guys!! You are fathers/mentors to so many forgotten young ppl! ❤🙏
Jordan Peterson is at an interesting point right now... he has this extended metaphor he uses to describe outstanding performance... he talks about the figure skater who's about to compete, and the skater's opponent goes out and just crushes it right before the skater is up... and he asks, what do you do if you're the skater at this point... and he says that all the skater can do is go out and skate on the absolute threshold of chaos, pushing himself to the brink of totally falling apart... that's brilliance, that's breaking what was previously understood as the limit... and he says we know this when we see it because we get chills watching stuff like this, watching someone operating at their absolute maximum, just a slip away from chaos. And I think that's where Jordan Peterson is right now and he knows it... he's attained this unexpected, rather unprecedented level of notoriety just by speaking his truth as he has come to understand it after decades of thinking about the human state. I've heard him say in a number of recent interviews that he worries about saying something offensive, something that will bring it all to an end... just the way the figure skater is a mere slip up away from collapsing. I actually believe Peterson thinks something like this is bound to happen... and I bet anyone thrust into the limelight would feel the same way. Peterson is doing everything he possibly can and he's reaching new heights in the process... but he believes himself to be in the place of the figure skater. And I think as a result of that he wants to shout his message as succinctly and loudly as possible to all who will listen while he has the forum... I think that's why he approached this podcast with the aim of hammering home the book again and again. He knows Jocko's podcast is a forum where he's not going to get questions about the alt-right, etc., so he used the podcast to get his core points out there uninterrupted as best he could. I support him in what I believe he's trying to do. But I believe he should be careful to not oversimplify as he strives to reach a mass audience while he has this moment. Jordan Peterson's brilliance does not reduce to "clean your room," as significant as that refrain is to his message.
Thanks for your comment! I agree with what you're saying here, and 2 years later it's still the same thing. I think that he was pushed into the limelight because the world around him needs this voice, a voice of clarity and truth with no propaganda, but hey his propaganda might be just that, also to show people, to tell people that you can practice becoming the best version of yourself despite the underlying "chaos and malevolence"-J.P, that others have played a role in causing. It seems like it's only now that people like Jordan Peterson, David Goggins, Jocko Willink, Ben Shapiro and for some including me Joe Rogan are successfully putting their word out there, a time where people know they need to hear unrelenting truth, yet some have trouble knowing that's what they're feeling. One by one, people are saying "fuck it, I'm gonna 'Get after it' and get my head screwed on straight. These men that i listed are the men that would've stayed silent, only if the world around them sufficed, and trying hard (and succeeding) to get people to wake their ass up. With how things are in society with emotional wrecks putting on a proud face to share their feelings, Jordan points out that even though these feelings are destructive not just to the individual but onlookers as well, they are also warranted and still hold value, for me what i think about the radical movements like the feminazis we all see is that, they demonstrate that they can have immense passion for something they believe in and these people are just one step away from learning to get a grip on reality.
12 Rules For Life is the most influential books I've ever read. JBP and Jocko are both responsible for me being the person I am today, the strongest, happiest and most sophisticated I've ever been. Part of it might be that I'm getting older and life is becoming easier, but I feel like because of those guys, it became a lot easier to focus and formulate plans, in order to make life so much better.
John T it's a great listen, imagine our world w Dr. Peterson in Charge and Jocko as right hand man.. Lol almost like Hershel and Rick on walking dead reference.. Jocko easily could be in charge yet looks to him for advice to make sure he does the right thing w his power
Just finished the book couple hours ago, been sitting here with my flawed self after reading such a powerful book, asking myself questions and getting answers I don't like or want to hear let alone now dealing with. Peterson has definitely helped me steer my direction in life towards heaven (metaphorically). Its so fucking brutal being honest with yourself and sifting through all the bullshit you surrounded and comforted yourself in for what now seems too long.
It’s beautiful to see the synchronicity of Peterson’s study and Jocko’s experiences come together to validate so true and validate such humbling and profound experiences of consciousness. The way the personal experience meets the thought process confirms the deeper reality. Peterson is NOT talking out of his ass here...
I understand COMPLETELY why the "some" want to de-platform Peterson.... He makes sense. He empowers. He explains and gives guidance. Dangerous... very dangerous....... when you want people (*Cough* men *cough*) ashamed, humiliated and crushed underfoot.
Yep. It's the same reason that the left hates Christianity and Judaism. They provide guidance towards self sufficiency, which is guidance away from the dependency the left tries to sell.
Having listened to 12 Rules for Life, read by Peterson himself, and this is no disrespect to Jocko, I have to disagree. Hearing the emotion in his voice, there was no doubt in my mind that what he wrote was honest and from the heart. Nothing like the manufactured self-help bullshit you find everywhere else. There were moments where it sounded like if you could see him reading it, there might be tears running down his cheeks. It was humbling.
Jocko and Jordan are so good together. They must realize that their world views are fundamentally the same. Jocko encourages change at the operational/tactical level and gives tools to help. Peterson provides assistance at the strategic/psychological/metaphysical level. Listen to these guys, incorporate their ideas, and watch the improvement in your life. These are basic, uncomplicated ideas that can help anyone.
Jocko you're doing a great job as a host and interviewer. It's particularly awesome that you let the man speak without ever interrupting him during his wild but oh-so inspiring rants. Thank you for your work!
This, yes man, I knew I would find this already stated. What a gentleman, to let him speak. I have so much respect for you both. I am proud of both of you. And I thank both of you for sharing your thoughts in the many videos from each of you that I have contemplated and enjoyed.
This is probably one of the best podcasts I have heard. Dr. Peterson is explaining things is a very relatable way that avoids his usual wordiness and allegory. He really is just a person in this one, with some great advice. "Don't teach yourself to not be afraid, teach yourself to be brave". Awesome
I immensely enjoy when Dr. Peterson is discussing his one client that was trying to improve his salary by x3. As someone who is a educated public health professional, I had to apply for 185 jobs (with years of experience in the field), and I interviewed at only 6 organizations. I obtained one offer out of 185 jobs. It only takes one. Move forward :)
In a world that looks like its taking a turn for the worse, it is bright light of hope and inspiration to see the worlds of jocko and peterson to collide in pursuit of truth and human good
I had all but given up on finding brave men of integrity, they just dont exist in my neck of the woods...then I found Jordan and Jocko who have begun to give me hope for the future of mankind...says the only woman to comment on this video, thank you for your service to mankind with this podcast.
The world is becoming a far more sorted out place because of these two men alone...
JacksonOfAllTrades Indeed... I truly believe it!
JacksonOfAllTrades. Damn straight
It has the potential to be**. Whether people on a large scale internalize these messages for the betterment of themselves and others is another matter, there’s some reason to be cynical about that
hafk1n Obviously we are here Sir. That's a start .
JacksonOfAllTrades cleaning one room at a time
Inspiring men. As a young man, i wouldn't have guessed that a Canadian professor and a Navy SEAL would be on the same level of badassery.
It's not even close. Jocko has lived through some crazy shit, while Dr. Peterson can only fantasize about the struggles of his patients.
@@sagebirchwood9948 imagine only accounting "badassery" in one dimension. not much going on upstairs, eh?
@calska140 , Curious to why in the same breath you attempt to insult my intelligence while replying to a *year old post*
It appears that I at least have an upstairs. I guess you should go clean your room now, bottom feeder.
Sage Birchwood fantasize? Read some about what JP’s family is going through.
Sage Birchwood my dude. Peterson is a badass
"There's no correlation between intelligence and wisdom."
No truer words have ever been spoken.
Pertinence?
Except for the fact that that a person with out wisdom cant be considered intelligent.
fin doe why? Theres plenty of dumb people who can see the signs of the times. They cannot articulate thoughts or remember important facts but they can be wise. Wisdom and intelligence arent the same.
Yes but not the other way around you wouldn't consider a smart fool intelligent.
In other words an Highly educated person who lacks wisdom cant be considered intelligent.
zanderness Yeah Im one of those people.
We need a podcast with the 3 Js
Joe, Jocko, and Jordan.
Can the internet handle that?
That would almost be tribal.
Raymeester if the internet can't handle that we need to break it harder than Kim Ks ass. That would be a podcast for the ages. There might not be any betas left after it hit.
I can readily confirm I am 100% ready to get after that scenario.
and Elon Jusk
I love Jordan Peterson. He says the things I think constantly. That part where he discusses dealing with an alcoholic brother was a play by play of my life. My brother was a dangerous drug abuser through his teens. I could list the hundred stories. It was all a downward spiral, tearing my family apart. We tried everything too. Eventually, we all had enough. Atleast I did. I was leaving for college in about two weeks and he had what alcoholics call a "moment of clarity". We spent that day painting a canoe and I straight up told him that I wasn't going to let him drag me down anymore. I figured once I left he would either go to prison or die. He checked himself into rehab later that month. Going on 5 years sober now, god bless.
It may have been Jocko who said it, I love him too. This conversation was awesome and way too short.
God bless you and your brother. Looks like Peterson's dictum of telling the truth and letting the chips fall where they may yielded the best possible outcome.
Jonas Serra good shit bro
Jonas Serra he did it because he knew how much you loved him.
Jonas Serra thank you for sharing
Love how Jocko is super respectful and really takes the time to genuinely listen to his guests. Humble.
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Jocko should write a follow-up: 12 Rules for Strife: An Antidote to Indiscipline. Get some.
I am not a laugh-out-loud guy but....that's a smart play on words ADGO, well played!
Get after it.
Yes!
Followed up by "How to tactically clean your room"
12 Rules for the Wife:
Rule 1: NO DRY GODDAMN CHICKEN!
Jocko Willink could read the ingredient list on a bottle of ranch and I would be on the edge of my seat in suspense. That dude's voice is something serious lol
Yeah I wish he'd start recording audiobooks.
" mayonnaise, sour cream, buttermilk, salt, black pepper, garlic, onion, chives, parsley, dill...now go away from darkness and toward the light." -in Jocko's voice.
Grin, your welcome. 🕯💖👌🏼🤓😉
And I’m here thinking I’m the only one listening and drooling ...😂👏🏻
I know right XD
BearlyMHere lots of intense pauses
The SEAL and the Lobster.
Paul Sims hahah
Paul Sims hail lobster
Bro... that was juuuuuust right
The warrior and the beautiful mind.
Clean your room at 4:00 am!! -credit due to someone commenting on a previous podcast.
You guys are legit my replacement father figures. Thanks for giving me a better idea of how to be a man.
Ry Rez what about your father echoed what these men do? Don't write him off completely
Ry Rex ... I get it ! Now, Go Get Some
@@chucksirron6346 for me, I've literally never had a father, he was 100% gone straight away, so nothing to write off or otherwise. These guys help massively and I see no shame in that. X
Dude I'm 100% right there with you
@@lordofgraphite there is no shame in that. More power to you, and I hope you’re doing alright
Peterson as Minister for Education. Jocko as Minister for Defence.
Sam Harris can make the coffee.
Simon Elof Well, Sam would be predetermined to do so, so he wouldn't have a problem with it.
Coffee might prove to be very stressful for Sam.
Pretty sure Sam is a cybernetic organism
Best Sam Harris joke I've ever read.
Ben Shapiro for AG?
If you have a problem with Jocko or Jordan Peterson, you’ve got a problem with yourself.
Damn. 💯❗️💯❗️
Tol Vir history will definitely look back.
Feminists
AND I SUGGEST YOU LET THAT MARINATE.
Best comment ever!
Anyone else notice how quickly Jocko adopts the speech patterns of whoever he’s talking to? The speed, the word choice, the individual habits of people. He never interrupts anyone unless the person talking to him does the same. That is good communication. That’s part of what makes him successful!
Really cool insight!
That’s why he was a leader in difficult times
So what does that mean on Lex podcast where he replies yes, no..
"Life is Suffering" says Jordan.
"Suffering builds Character" my father used to say.
"Character is Everything" says Jordan.
Character is your set of tools for dealing with life.
Ron Harvey that is a really really good way to connect the dots
Obviously I found this video a tad late and am just learning about these men. When Mr. Peterson said "be the most reliable person at your fathers funeral" that hit me hard as hell. My father passed this last year and it is true everyone was a blubbering mess and I felt it was my job to make sure things went smoothly. I grieved in silence in my own time, and it really meant a lot to hear someone respect that moment in my life.
I’ve always had the same role. I’ve always been the one others have leaned on, when they couldn’t stand alone. Maybe that’s why I am who I am, where I am, and when I am.
One little bit of advice. Find a time and place to let your own grief out. If you don’t, it’s coming anyway. But, it’ll come at a time and place of its own. Most times it’ll be inconvenient as hell.
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The world's sorrow leads to literal death.
Godly sorrow leads to life and repentance.
I think it's important to also point out that each of us leaned on someone else at many moments throughout our lives.
From conception, through childhood, adulthood and if you become old and grey. Even castaways use what other human beings have taught and left behind to keep living.
None of us exist without someone else, or else we wouldn't have been born.
Human beings are meant to receive love and to share love.
If not cared for humans would never be able to make it to an age where they could stand.
For instance, babies who are killed before birth do not ever get to stand on earth like we do.
No love. No life.
At one point we cried uncontrollably and slobbered on ourselves, unable to even clean our own rear ends.
People like to forget that and it instills arrogance.
Each of us are as delicate as snow flakes. One or two degrees and it's all gone.
God upholds everything that lives, even the wicked.
The wicked do not inwardly acknowledge these things, that's how they can bring so much harm without an inch of self restraint or second thought.
They don't believe in a higher authority and they do not believe the things they even say they believe.
They don't believe they will be accountable.
God has comforted me through plenty of pain and death. When I say comfort, in my situation I became well aware that God keeps us alive even when our hearts want to stop beating.
Gods comfort keeps us alive when even our bodies should have failed.
Grief has physical properties because it happens beyond the quantum level in the "Spirit".
Information never actually "breaks down".
The body may turn to dust, but the information never actually dissappears.
Human bodies are mortal, but the spirit of a person isn't destroyed. Like everything else it just experiences a "phase change". Boiling water doesn't dissappear, it changes and it moves.
Consciousness is the same way.
Spirits are immortal.
Destruction in the spirit is "eternal hell" but preservation in the spiritual realm is eternal life or "heaven".
Death is something everyone has in common, but people don't confront it until it spits in their face.
God taught me that goodbye isn't forever as far as death goes.
Having the knowledge that there is a God and that there is more to the universe was essential to my personal survival.
Wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him.
Not that I am special, but I am blessed to have been made aware of it.
Jesus was our example of how to face death. He beat it.
He was proof that death is a force that is subject to God. Death doesn't reign.
Death is not the final say. Nor is it a true authority.
We thought gravity was in authority, birds knew long before rockets that this was not true.
I suppose it's good to hang your head and sit in the dark sometimes.
We gain knowledge and perseverance by it.
But always take your inner light with you if you have one. If one doesn't have the light of truth in them, that's all they'll see in those moments is darkness.
Have yourself a great day my friend.
Feels good to see folks trying to encourage others. Hope is so important.
Faith hope and love.
Makes the pain tolerable. 👍
Sorry to hear about your lost man, glad to hear you handled it well
Awsome job man ! U did it without being told. U hot some true character!
I did the same for all 4 of my family members who passed
I fell apart afterwards but I’m proud of myself that I faced it with courage.
It loooks like Peterson’s sense of humor is back, and he’s been working on his laugh. Wonderful
He's never lost it.
45:00 when I was about 9 years old, my nearly 80-year-old great uncle once caught me looking at the down cards in a solitaire game.
He very sternly said, "Don't cheat! If you cheat at cards, you'll cheat at life. It starts you down a bad path." Essentially, be honest in everything you do, even the small things.
Over 40 years later, I remember that.
Funny the things that stay with us after our loved ones are gone.
Thank God for that Uncle
In a solitaire game? Cheating on yourself?
"You don't want to win a game. You want to become desirable across a set of all possible games, so people line up to play with you."
Bloody brilliant.
Let’s play a game. If I’m person B then your person _____ ?
or play "for" you, can be a double edge sword if your not capable of seeing deception as people can and WILL take advantage of your goodness, you can bet on that.
@@mr.shin.5138I think desirable doesn’t mean exploitable.
I think desirable means that other people WANT to be in your good graces.
I wish that Dr. Peterson knew how he saved my life! Also thank you for the podcast!
Same. One of my life goals is to thank him personally. Might seem like a stupid and unimportant thing to others, I can do it by email (I will do that too), but I want to shake the hand of a man who had such a huge impact on my life.
He knows. J.p. turned my dumb ass around too.
Enigma, PLZ GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK ......AND ..... PLZ GIVE YOUR WORLD A BREAK and the clean your room like jpb and jocko tell you to, ease up, life always turns to something new , allow that new thing to be a good thing, be honest, look to heal a relationship. ..... things will be okay
enigmapublius1
He knows.
How exactly did he change your life?
This is the best Jordan Peterson video I've ever seen. This is a true and concise distillation of the essence of his beliefs. Not only that, but Jocko's questions are thoughtful and provocative in just the right ways, and yet he knows exactly when to back out and let Jordan say what he needs to say without interruption. THIS is a world-class interview, in my opinion.
100%. The best JP interviews I've ever seen are Jocko's. The vibe is fantastic.
This is why I pay for UA-cam premium.
Watching Jocko and Peterson talk is amazing... its like they are the two faces of the same coin.
kauxkaux The currency of strength and integrity
Damn! Nicely put!
"My Friend" is so moving... tearing up. Thank you Jocko; insight into the beautiful side of humanity.
I want to know who the friend was.
@@RV-jw7nb Hey man, this is just a guess on my part, but I'm pretty sure the friend is Seth Stone, Jocko reads an open letter to him at the beginning of the live podcast (title "humbled and mystified"). Hope this helps👍
Get after it.
What was Jocko reading at the start of the podcast?
@@alexmatthews180 thanks man
Tremendous podcast... I love how earnestly Jocko listens to Peterson.
Some of the two best JBP interviews of all time.
Peterson is everywhere nowadays. And that's good.
His book tour has been very kind to him.
I couldn't be happier about this
Артём Белозёров agreed
Brother Artyom!! Как поживаешь
We need a week long, 4 hour podcast with Joe, Jocko, Jordan and David Goggins. I think it would get hundreds of millions of hits.
The ultimate weakness destruction formula
How about Huberman too
@@adonislanzones oh yes for sure!!!!
the stars will align for that day
Worlds collide yet again. Gentlemen, Thank you. Salute
I would pay to have Jocko read the audio version of the book
No doubt, his pauses are awesome and give me time to think about what was just said. Very good reader honestly.
Cabal shit, id let him read "the little engine that could" to my son! it would be better than major payne
@@gfunk62 Nobody beats Major Payne - Toot, toot, toooot!
I've never wanted to try to be a better man, husband, father, person, than when I listen to these men talk.
Lobster Team 6
Bucko Support Squad, standing ready.
More like lobster team 3, task unit bruiser. The most highly decorated special forces unit in the Pacific Ocean.
Jack Knudson lol gg
Jack Knudson make it task unit cruiser to add the ECHOCHARLESICHIBOHAA then its perfect.
Getting some since before there were trees for the enemy to hide behind.
" A bad account for yourself and a bad plan is better than no account for yourself and no plan" - Jordan B Peterson.
Thank you for this conversation to the 3 of you. This is priceless.
Jocko Peterson. The integrated lobster shadow.
William Thompson
A SEAL, A LOBSTER AND AN ECHO WALK INTO A BAR....
DimensionZombie Then what happens ?
El Plateado 001 Alpha stuff.
So what are you saying is
Good evening
So for this shoe I woke up at 4am, cleaned my room before 4:30am, hit the weights for a good hour, showered, then brewed 2 cups of Jocko White Tea and sat to listen. Great way to sort things early in the am.
It's piss easy to do that....the difficult part and literally where 99% of people fuck up: are you doing this in one month's time? And don't answer it, because you don't know the answer.
Evan Green true dat. momentary motivation is momentary
You have to become enamored with the mundane. That is discipline.
That’s fantastic, man. This is two years later, but that’s a great way morning
Amazing Rugen. Am gonna start on that
"Life is hard, and its harder when you're stupid" - John Wayne (Att.)
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I swear if Jocko and Echo did a podcast that was purely advertising I'd listen to it all day.
Never thought it was such a big deal back when I was in the Marines... until my wife told me one day that one of the things she appreciated and noticed when we were first together was that I wasn't dressed like a yo-boy and wore fitting clothes and walked upright without a hunch.
@@daniellopez2239 Even if that were true it wouldn't serve as a critique or valid comment in this situation. Your premise is no doubt faulty and your comment is disengaged from any reality beyond your delusional experience. You presumably should have been paying more attention to this podcast as you seem to have no reason to actually be alive. I see you wrote this about 3 months ago; which is good because it means there were 3 months of opportunities for you to wink out of existence in some way. You have no value in your life. Thus life in general has NO value for you...and remember that good ol' Army song: "Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes..." Do yourself a favor dipshit.
@@wiggityp Thats some way to deal with trolls.
wiggityp I feel like this is to much for that insignificant comment lol
PASS THE DAMN PUCK
Dr Peterson would be an unreal hockey coach haha i love it
When the smartest tough person meets the toughest smart person
Don't steal people's comments.
@@artyparty8166 ok i won't from now on.
@@finneganmcbride6224 @Arty Party It’s not stealing if you don’t claim it as your own and spread the idea without personal gain. Just put a comment at the end acknowledging where it came from so commenters with sticks up their asses don’t freak out.
@@quinntolchin3080 I wouldn’t say he has a stick up his ass. Because he saw no credit. I’m all for calling out copycats trying to claim the glory of someone else’s actions.
Peterson and Jocko are currently my two favourite podcasters.
Talk about effective time management.
People don’t understand how hard being a dishwasher at a restaurant is... I can’t believe Jordan and jocko share that experience
It was my first job at the age of 12 in 1983
It's a messy job I don't ever want to do again
I first job. I quit the first day haha 😅
It's fun
Especially if you have hyperacusis or misophonia
Jordan Peterson blows my mind every time I listen to him
Jocko Willink and Jordan Peterson are 2 voices of reason in these crazy times!!!
Data Dwarfs Peterson has been going on an absolute tear through podcasts lately.
The Cathy Newman surge.
I've been on a JBP - Jocko binge these past few weeks. My brain exploded when I saw that this was just uploaded.
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed, citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
― Margaret Mead
I gave the semron at my dads funeral, August of 2021. It's good to be a pillar of strength and light of direction.
Idk why but Jocko feels like my dad, Jordan Peterson feels like my grandpa, Goggins feels like my older brother, and Joe Rogan feels like my uncle who hangs out all the time
I feel you.
Nah fr!
The wise one leaves his mountain cave to meet with our hero Jocko the Mighty once again
I often come to this podcast because of depression, jocko helps me get through this tough time. Great, great guy I cannot thank him enough.
The story Jocko tells at the beginning should be listened to by all. Unbelievable, that level of selflessness. There are truly great people out there.
"There's nothing safer than competence."
Archetype Alert: the Soldier and the Sage
The wise man and the warrior.
Yup. Femtards beware because true masculine power is in the room
@@docbohemian1328 Why should this be purely the province of men? Powerful women can also live by these qualities.
@Josh Nonya Insecure, are you? I rest my case.
Imagine a Greek philosopher and a Spartan solider talking and giving advice about life and whole world can watch and listen to them from the comfort of their homes . It's crazy what technology has made possible. Our ancestors missed out so much.
His story about waiting for a comrade comming home reminds me of 2003. I was at home because I broke my hand in an accident short before deployment. Took training a bit to serious. I was sitting in my living room watching TV. The barbacue was heating up. I went inside because it was fucking hot outside. My splinting was annoying me hard. I had a beer in my healthy hand. Then it comes on TV. A convoy was hit by an IED. 4 dead, 23 injured. I knew from the size of the unit given in the news within a second: This was my batallion.
Back than I wasn't very experienced. Saw some small scale action later. But I never came in a situation again in my life that I hated more than this. Sitting on your ass, with a beer half around the world while your friends are lying in their own blood. Only thing that came close to it was seeing my grandma (which I really loved) suffering from dementia more and more over the years and not beeing able to do shit about it.
This feeling of beeing unable to take action when the stakes are that high is the worst shit ever.
Dr. Peterson is incredibly articulate, I want him to explain EVERYTHING to me from now on! HAHA! GREAT INTERVIEW!!
Please pray that my 25 yr old son, Seth, will one day [soon] invest his time listening to conversations like this, esp this one. There's only so much a 'mom' can teach about becoming a good man and why that pursuit is valuable. Pray for me too, as I'm the voice of reason in his life. Thank you, guys!! You are fathers/mentors to so many forgotten young ppl! ❤🙏
How is ur son now
@@joshuamugambegye8952 Prayers are working! He's actually striking up conversations now vs just letting me think out loud lol. TY for asking!
@@laramatthews2082 That's amazing. Am happy for him. All the best in life
Jocko is the closest thing to a real life Space Marine we have.
Jordan Peterson's book list on his website is by far the best books I have read thanks so much Jp
You can tell these guys really like each other. Jocko has a demeanor that puts Jordan at ease. He seems more easy going than his usual self.
Jordan Peterson is at an interesting point right now... he has this extended metaphor he uses to describe outstanding performance... he talks about the figure skater who's about to compete, and the skater's opponent goes out and just crushes it right before the skater is up... and he asks, what do you do if you're the skater at this point... and he says that all the skater can do is go out and skate on the absolute threshold of chaos, pushing himself to the brink of totally falling apart... that's brilliance, that's breaking what was previously understood as the limit... and he says we know this when we see it because we get chills watching stuff like this, watching someone operating at their absolute maximum, just a slip away from chaos.
And I think that's where Jordan Peterson is right now and he knows it... he's attained this unexpected, rather unprecedented level of notoriety just by speaking his truth as he has come to understand it after decades of thinking about the human state. I've heard him say in a number of recent interviews that he worries about saying something offensive, something that will bring it all to an end... just the way the figure skater is a mere slip up away from collapsing. I actually believe Peterson thinks something like this is bound to happen... and I bet anyone thrust into the limelight would feel the same way. Peterson is doing everything he possibly can and he's reaching new heights in the process... but he believes himself to be in the place of the figure skater.
And I think as a result of that he wants to shout his message as succinctly and loudly as possible to all who will listen while he has the forum... I think that's why he approached this podcast with the aim of hammering home the book again and again. He knows Jocko's podcast is a forum where he's not going to get questions about the alt-right, etc., so he used the podcast to get his core points out there uninterrupted as best he could.
I support him in what I believe he's trying to do. But I believe he should be careful to not oversimplify as he strives to reach a mass audience while he has this moment. Jordan Peterson's brilliance does not reduce to "clean your room," as significant as that refrain is to his message.
Nick Macri 😂😂😂😂🤦♂️
Thats actually a great thought
He doesn't care.
Thanks for your comment!
I agree with what you're saying here, and 2 years later it's still the same thing. I think that he was pushed into the limelight because the world around him needs this voice, a voice of clarity and truth with no propaganda, but hey his propaganda might be just that, also to show people, to tell people that you can practice becoming the best version of yourself despite the underlying "chaos and malevolence"-J.P, that others have played a role in causing. It seems like it's only now that people like Jordan Peterson, David Goggins, Jocko Willink, Ben Shapiro and for some including me Joe Rogan are successfully putting their word out there, a time where people know they need to hear unrelenting truth, yet some have trouble knowing that's what they're feeling. One by one, people are saying "fuck it, I'm gonna 'Get after it' and get my head screwed on straight. These men that i listed are the men that would've stayed silent, only if the world around them sufficed, and trying hard (and succeeding) to get people to wake their ass up.
With how things are in society with emotional wrecks putting on a proud face to share their feelings, Jordan points out that even though these feelings are destructive not just to the individual but onlookers as well, they are also warranted and still hold value, for me what i think about the radical movements like the feminazis we all see is that, they demonstrate that they can have immense passion for something they believe in and these people are just one step away from learning to get a grip on reality.
“Aim high and focus on the day”.So amazing how this podcast grounds me every time I hear the stories
Jocko, I just want to say that I'm impressed by how well you do interviews. you seem to have a nack for it
The Jocko and the Jordan, pure savagery. Awesome.
Two sides of the same coin.
Endurance and perseverance through hell.
12 Rules For Life is the most influential books I've ever read. JBP and Jocko are both responsible for me being the person I am today, the strongest, happiest and most sophisticated I've ever been.
Part of it might be that I'm getting older and life is becoming easier, but I feel like because of those guys, it became a lot easier to focus and formulate plans, in order to make life so much better.
listening to these stories is like being stabbed w the truth. Slapped w understanding. Kicked w Spiritual Knowledge. such intensity and raw power.
I am a bricklayer. I want these guys on my team.
John T it's a great listen, imagine our world w Dr. Peterson in Charge and Jocko as right hand man.. Lol almost like Hershel and Rick on walking dead reference.. Jocko easily could be in charge yet looks to him for advice to make sure he does the right thing w his power
Just finished the book couple hours ago, been sitting here with my flawed self after reading such a powerful book, asking myself questions and getting answers I don't like or want to hear let alone now dealing with. Peterson has definitely helped me steer my direction in life towards heaven (metaphorically). Its so fucking brutal being honest with yourself and sifting through all the bullshit you surrounded and comforted yourself in for what now seems too long.
check out thisman.org
"Be compassionate to yourself" the Buddha. Keep going dude 🙏🏼
A SEAL, A LOBSTER AND AN ECHO WALK INTO A BAR...
And the bar instantly transforms from Chaos into Order.
And we all sit around and listen to what they have to say to each other
@Jose Rojas you win!
Jose Rojas hilarious!!!
@Jose Rojas Good. One
It’s beautiful to see the synchronicity of Peterson’s study and Jocko’s experiences come together to validate so true and validate such humbling and profound experiences of consciousness. The way the personal
experience meets the thought process confirms the deeper reality. Peterson is NOT talking out of his ass here...
The good Doctor has a way of turning things we already know subconsciously into profound statements that stick with us. Thank you.
I understand COMPLETELY why the "some" want to de-platform Peterson....
He makes sense.
He empowers.
He explains and gives guidance.
Dangerous... very dangerous.......
when you want people (*Cough* men *cough*) ashamed, humiliated and crushed underfoot.
Being a temporary victim is ok. But to cure victim hood is a huge threat to 90% of the power structure.
Yep. It's the same reason that the left hates Christianity and Judaism.
They provide guidance towards self sufficiency, which is guidance away from the dependency the left tries to sell.
@@hariman7727 True... dependency in a pill or in relinquishing your personal agency for "group think" and conformity.
Common Sense underlying all as well and THAT TERRIFIES the ScumBags right to their roiling, infected, malignant cores.🤣
@@cavscout62 This is true. And probably why we are seeing the shit we are seeing right now.
At last !!!!!
Jordan is saying the reallll truth !!!
Dr Peterson, ask Jocko to be the voice of this books audio release, no other person can say "STAND STRAIGHT" in quite the same manner.
Having listened to 12 Rules for Life, read by Peterson himself, and this is no disrespect to Jocko, I have to disagree. Hearing the emotion in his voice, there was no doubt in my mind that what he wrote was honest and from the heart. Nothing like the manufactured self-help bullshit you find everywhere else. There were moments where it sounded like if you could see him reading it, there might be tears running down his cheeks. It was humbling.
@@blazegunshark AGREED.
Now if Jocko writes a book, he should DEFINITELY do the audiobook himself.
Jocko and Jordan are so good together. They must realize that their world views are fundamentally the same. Jocko encourages change at the operational/tactical level and gives tools to help. Peterson provides assistance at the strategic/psychological/metaphysical level. Listen to these guys, incorporate their ideas, and watch the improvement in your life. These are basic, uncomplicated ideas that can help anyone.
The podcast in 2017 with Jordan was easily my favourite podcast ever. This is greatly needed and appreciated. Thank you Jocko, Echo & Jordan Peterson.
I love Jocko's intros - he's such an understated spoken wordsmith
I got discipline for days...but these two, such different experiences, yet have nearly the exact same wisdom. Love it.
I would like to see an interview with Peterson´s daughter... man, her story makes me cry every time he reveals something new about it
There are multiple interviews of Peterson and his daughter on youtube. Search for "the agenda depression Peterson"
kauxkaux she's all over instagram, check her out. All she eats is steak, it's pretty funny.
There's a lot more on that in 12 Rules For Life.
Mikhaila Peterson is TOUGH.
She has her own podcast here on UA-cam. Check it out she's amazing
Jocko you're doing a great job as a host and interviewer. It's particularly awesome that you let the man speak without ever interrupting him during his wild but oh-so inspiring rants. Thank you for your work!
This, yes man, I knew I would find this already stated. What a gentleman, to let him speak. I have so much respect for you both. I am proud of both of you. And I thank both of you for sharing your thoughts in the many videos from each of you that I have contemplated and enjoyed.
This is probably one of the best podcasts I have heard. Dr. Peterson is explaining things is a very relatable way that avoids his usual wordiness and allegory. He really is just a person in this one, with some great advice. "Don't teach yourself to not be afraid, teach yourself to be brave". Awesome
I immensely enjoy when Dr. Peterson is discussing his one client that was trying to improve his salary by x3. As someone who is a educated public health professional, I had to apply for 185 jobs (with years of experience in the field), and I interviewed at only 6 organizations. I obtained one offer out of 185 jobs. It only takes one. Move forward :)
"Do you want to be competent or do you want to be safe? There's nothing safer than competence." -- Brilliant.
Jocko "Good" Willink
Echo "Good Evening" Charles
Jordan "Clean Your Room" Peterson
Mega "meta-nickname" Studios
I “put things in quotes to” make comments.
In a world that looks like its taking a turn for the worse, it is bright light of hope and inspiration to see the worlds of jocko and peterson to collide in pursuit of truth and human good
Strength of body meets strength of mind, sharing strength of character. Great talk.
Life has been changing for better listening to the two. And obviously working on that.
Jocko, echo, and Jordan should just make their own podcast.
4:00 in and I’m crying. These talks are THE BEST on the internet right now, in my at times not so humble opinion. 💕
Proud to be first! Jocko honestly brother I've been listening to your videos every morning when I wake up. Thanks for all that you do boss, cheers
Jake Voorhees Grear Idea!
Thank you, my child
It's refreshing to watch a podcast where there's no whining
Two pragmatic & deeply humane minds .
Thank you both for your service to humanity
JP, we need you now more than ever.
Yup. Hope he's doing better
Never heard of Jocko but he seems to be an intellectual type brute. Strong body and mind. Good for him.
Hearing peterson talk about his daughter helped me a lot I have a disability and serious chronic pain
He deserves every bit of success he has attained.
We can all spread the light - you make life easy for others! Thank you so much for your path in life! You are my hero too.
That intro was fuckin powerful, man...
Echo Charles has the best job ever… He says one word usually an issue and that’s just good morning or good evening
I had all but given up on finding brave men of integrity, they just dont exist in my neck of the woods...then I found Jordan and Jocko who have begun to give me hope for the future of mankind...says the only woman to comment on this video, thank you for your service to mankind with this podcast.
We need another Jocko podcast with JBP!
Good evening, lobsters.
TheHarperbow I read that in Echoe's voice and busted a gut laughing.
Echo is the shit!
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It’s like... Yes... Roughly speaking
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Jocko just from hearing you speak I’ve got a good sense of character. When I speak I want that same level of volume. You sound like a good man